http://imgur.com/a/WGbXH
Apparently the Emperors Shield Platoon has a 5 squad minimum?
So Company Command + 165 infantry and 3 Sentinels or Company Command and 5 Tanks before we can even look at Auxillary options? Madness.
reminds me of... was it fourth edition where you could run shit ton of conscripts asa horde?
>>43787392
It's 0-3 Core.
>>43787561
Yes, but to use an Auxillary, you need a core choice first. There are only two core choices, and they are both fucking huge.
>>43787573
Whats the matter son, to many fucking Guardsmen for you to handle?
>>43787578
what if we wanted to play something that didnt require a gorillion models
what if i like mechvets and dont want to be tied down to a billion goddamn infantry or leman russes
>>43787584
That'll probably be for something OTHER than cadians
>>43787578
I have 120 Guardsman, and I have nowhere near enough. Yes, it is too much to handle.
This is so unwieldy it is just flat out worse than a well built CAD.
>>43787584
>>43787599
Go get some Space Marines and get out of my outfit.
Posting Krieg until someone can figure out if this is usable.
>>43787625
Fuck you my men have spilt oceans of blood for the Imperium. This formation fucking sucks.
>>43787573
My bad. Re-read it and yeah, that kind of sucks.
The tank core isn't that bad though. 4 tanks and one Enginseer isn't too bad.
>>43787599
>three min inf platoons and three min sentinel squads
>80 infantry models (including company command) and three sentinels
>unwieldy
Dude fucking what?
You should have that many guardsmen anyway plus it's only around 440 for the guardsmen and 165 for sentinels hardly a massive points sink...
>>43787573
>fucking huge
Bunch a faggot mech guard nubs itt
>>43787678
It's 5, a tank commander requires a bodyguard as well.
>>43787703
Read the OP, it's understood those 'Emperors Shield' platoons need 5 squads each minimum. That's a huge point sink.
>>43787686
Fuck, replied to the wrong post, see >>43787753
>>43787753
Shit nvm
Apparently they need to clear out those shitty cadian models for the new ones :^)
>>43787764
In that case it's 1055 minimum for barebones everything
Guess this formation detachment is only for blob guard players...
>>43787740
Still not bad as long as you planned to use tanks anyway. I regularnly use about that many tanks in my list and the formation bonus is nice.
If you want infantry as your base I gues you're fucked though. Sorry.
>>43787779
40k getting its own WHFB 8th edition.
Sounds like at this point the the army is going for a scale where the miniatures should just be discarded and the players should be moving entire units on a hex grid rather than individual troopers and squads...
Maybe some Hex grids where Astra militarum companies and battalions face Ork warbands, hordes of traitor cults led by few Chaos space marine masters and elite units, Tau armies supported by their auxiliaries...
I would play it.
>>43787392
that Pic Destroyed my sides
>>43787639
>>43787646
>>43787808
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>>43788030
Get some bigger pics Kriegfag
>>43788231
Epic man, seriously, 40k has long since collapsed in itself due to scale issues
>>43787810
605 for infantry+sentinels
Where is the other 450 coming from?
>>43789040
Ccs 50
3 pcs 90
15 inf squads 750
3 scout sentinels 165
I was hoping we would get regimental rules.
It looks like if we do it will simply be divided up by formations :(
>>43788030
he's holding his lasgun wrong, the lucius pattern lasgun doesn't have a pistol handle. tsk tsk tsk
>>43787584
CAD and ally the formation you want.
>>43789106
Something caught my eye, though: in that GW bundle called "the Emperor's Shield Platoon", they say you have everything to make one of those.
but the bundle only has 2 inf squads and 2 HWS.
So I was thinking maybe the wording in the formation is accidentally too specific (like they didn't look to hard at the IG codex) and mean 5 options of anything in the platoon, not only inf squads.
Or would GW fool us like that?
So apparently the 'at least five infantry squads' Clause in the core infantry formation has people arguing it includes heavy and special weapon squads plus conscripts
I don't think this is the case at all since it clearly says 'infantry squads' which are literally RAW the ten man units and it honestly makes them seem desperate to make this detachment not shit
>>43791260
Fuck GWs inconsistent bullshit Christ...
RAW it's meant to only be the infantry squad
Gw just wants to clear out old n shitty models
>>43791286
Or they might be reestructuring the codex for a release soon, and will change the platoon so that you can make heavy weapon squads and merge them with regular inf squads so that the fire and advance order is useful and you have more bodies to protect the HWTs.
a man can dream
The rerolls to hot-shot lasguns doesn't seem really useful, since the taurox doesn't come with those like the prime yeah?
And I didn't see anything for scions at all.
>>43791442
"Militarum Tempestus Platoon" is an Auxilliary choice. Second page of the formation.
with all due respect, how can I even play such an army in a normal match?
I had problems with painting and handling 80 guardsmen in my army list and this is at least what, 200 guardsmen? and the only useful thing I get is reroll 1s on lasgun shots?
what the hell gw, how is someone supposed to play this?
>>43791346
Didn't you get the memo? The only rules that change in a new codex now are adding new units and new formations. GW have decided that the current rules and points costs are perfect and don't need changing.
>>43787584
>what if we wanted to play something that didnt require a gorillion models
Then don't play IG.
>what if i like mechvets and dont want to be tied down to a billion goddamn infantry or leman russes
Then play CAD mechvet or MT. They literally made a whole new faction and codex for people like you with MT.
>"b-but MT suck"
So does mechvet.
>>43788866
Delivard
>>43794210
>get the memo?
>implying formations aren't expressly meant as options those who of us OCDFags who already own all - or almost all - of the necessary models.
If you really think that GW mgt is smart enough to supply WAACfags with an endless stream of WIN buttons to sell models, literally kill yourself.
>>43797285
that is a big ass chimera
>>43797405
Oh, but they are.
- Necron Decurion
- Buffing 6E Eldar
- Battle Company
- Grav Centurions
- Grav weaponry
- Buffing White Scars/bikes even more
- Knights
- Knight formations
- Skyhammer Annihilation
- New Tau stuff
- Knight House Taryn exclusive web bundle
- War Convocation
The reason the new rules are so ridiculously OP is because GW doesn't know how to do it properly and they know this, so they just go full retard since there's no way such broken rules WON'T be good and sell well.
>>43788975
>Epic man, seriously, 40k has long since collapsed in itself due to scale issues
Yeah, no shit anon the scale for wh40k should be squad level battle like they were for 1st ed. Now the scale is going out of whack because everyone is playing what should be Epic. At 28mm scale but on a tiny ass board which totally throws everything off.
Yeah..so my IG is unplayable and will get wipe out by Eldar/Tau in turn 3...
>>43797405
They have been doing that for quite some time
>>43797850
>Yeah..so my IG is unplayable and will get wipe out by Eldar/Tau in turn 3...
Everyone does. Only armies that don't are either hiding, null deploying, invisible, or Necrons.
Even other Tau/Eldar get tabled by Tau/Eldar.
>>43797419
No, just tiny Kriegers.
My play group runs sixth ed because of formations why would you want an outline for half your army that gives you bonuses for being stupid...
>>43797938
Formations existed and work in 6E too.
>>43797938
You basically described the normal force org though. Your argument would mean everyone should go unbound. No outline and no benefits for taking worthless troops.
>>43787402
Nothing says fun like 100 conscripts in a 2500 point game.
I might just finally sell my IG and continue playing Malifaux, Dystopians and historicals
>>43798038
My Kdk approve !
>>43797990
you can choose between 18 choices, but you cant have more than 3 of each
but wait we just chose 10 of them for you, heres +1 str
>>43797974
they werent in codex
>>43791286
I just asked a few people I know and they think it refers to any type of squad that would normally be in a platoon, and it specified infantry because it also needs a sentinel, which isn't an infantry unit.
Either way GW did a stupid thing which is nothing new.
