Dungeons & Dragons Fifth Edition General Discussion
Old thread >>43603903
>All official WotC content here (now including the SCAG)
https://mega.nz#F!UVkTnT5b!FJ34UZ98BMY2mEtexenS7g
>Tools for 5e, other stuff, miscellaneous homebrews
http://pastebin.com/X1TFNxck
>Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide Map:
https://mega.nz/#!CowGWLKT!yiwaLeoLWcsV4d8uY5DmqsmPxTw3ZIdpz8xAzaYkQ5II
> November's Unearthed Arcana:
https://media.wizards.com/2015/downloads/dnd/02_UA_Underdark_Characters.pdf
What's your favorite Outer Plane?
>>43614625
>What's your favorite Outer Plane?
Top 3:
>#3
Acheron
>#2
Arcadia
>#1Bytopia
Those of you that bought SCAG, how are you liking it? i heard same saying they dont feel it was worth the price.
>>43614625
The beastlands seemed pretty okay, with goddesses of the hunt like Ehlonna being around having their eternal hunting parties and shit.
Probably not a good idea to annoy Artemis if your character is male though.
>>43614680
I'm enjoying it just fine.
It's not the best sourcebook I've ever read, but I'm going to just flat out admit that the best sourcebooks I've ever read don't even fall under the D&D license or any of it's knockoffs even.
It's got some cool stuff, and presents a version of the Realms closer to before 3e and 4e confused a lot of stuff while still keeping some decently interesting updates.
>>43614625
Dwarfhome! The hammers of Moradin must always ring!
So does anyone have any thoughts on Rune Scribe? What classes pair well, what classes unexpectedly might pair well, power level, how to use, etc.? Also if there's a handy link to discussion of the above I'd appreciate that too.
I ran into today and the idea really intrigues me, but I want to know whether it executes well during play and what my options are realistically if I want to build a character with it. Already talked to my DM and he's on board to have the class requirements accessible in play for me.
>>43614680
Wildly inconsistent in quality. Some entries are great, some are awful.
The art is hitting me with the blunt end of the uncannily valley.
Is there any 5e fishman race? I'm interested in playing a fish person in an upcoming campaign, but don't want to play merfolk. Would using the 3.5e fishmen race work fine?
>>43615229
I haven't seen one, but I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of the UA stuff yet.
>>43615229
I would refluff Water Genasi as fishmen
Does anyone happen to know what artist did OP's picture?
>>43615229
>>43615330
I did exactly that in the last game I played and it worked out swell. So do that, anon.
Don't try and speak the whole time as if you're gargling water though.It gets old fast.
>>43614625
Anybody, have experience playing the new arcana domain for clerics? Is it any good or is it underwhelming?
>>43615076
It works rather well with the Immortal subclass of Mystic, but that's assuming your DM would allow you to play an unfinished class from a UA. It's also not terrible with a Spellsinger wizard. A guy in my group is playing an EK 6/RS 2, and it's working out pretty well for him.
If great weapon fighting lets me reroll smite damage, does it also let me reroll GFB/BB damage?
>>43614680
I wouldn't pay $40 for it
the $23 I paid for it is alright.
a nice little cliff notes for new people to acquaint themselves to FR in one book.
>>43615639
It will let you reroll the extra damage on the weapon attack, but not the non-weapon damage the spells deal.
>>43615639
>If great weapon fighting lets me reroll smite damage
I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
>>43614789
>>43615225
>>43615675
are you guys new to Forgotten Realms or DnD in general?
thanks for the input
>>43614681
>The beastlands seemed pretty okay,
Jeezus.
I find the beastlands more of a pain then descending the the Abyss followed directly by a trip through baator.
There is nothing to reason with, Beasts try to kill you, the plants try to kill you, then Van Pellet tries to kill you AND mock you.
Fuck the beastlands they are the Australia of the planes.
(But seriously great funny to toss your players into.)
>>43615746
My DM who plays AL said it did.
>>43615751
Was never all that big into FR
I figured since 5e isn't using another setting any time soon now would be good time to get acquainted.Read some comic adaptations of the 1st two Drizzt booksThey were okay but I can see that shit getting real old real fast.
>>43615746
The wording can be interpreted however way one wants and this will invite shitflinging if argued over.
>>43615788
>but you said we were playing in the UPPER planes
I had a very druidic elf bard in my last game so it was kind of heaven.
>>43615639
I would rule that it applies only to the damage added on hit, and not to the 2nd target of GFB, or movement triggered damage of Booming.
>>43615229
You could more than likely adapt a Kuo Toa into a PC and base their power off of 5e's monster manual.
>>43615966
The face of fishy degeneracy!
>>43615229
I can't be the only one salty about the fact that SCAG didn't stat sea elves, right? I mean, the Adventurer's League ruling is that you can be play as the rare elves using PHB race stats under the hood, but that doesn't do shit for aquatics. Hell, they even made a variant for half-sea elves, but could be assed to make an official subrace? There isn't even an elf subrace in the book. Sure, elves already had 3 in the PHB, and dwarves, halflings, and gnomes just got their 3rd in SCAG, but could it have hurt anyone's feelings? Aren't sea elves kind of a big deal off of the Sword COAST?
>>43615330
This is goodbut not for sea elves
>>43615966
>>43615986
There's also this.
Maybe there's something worthwhile in the OP homebrew list.
>>43616096
I'm not that amazing at homebrew, but with some input for the thread, I reckon I could stat up a sea elf.
>>43616125
>Wis +1
>Amphibious
>Swim Speed
>Sea Elf Weapon Training: Spear, Trident, Net
I'd literally have been happy if they just cut the spells and acid resistance off of genasi and said it was an elf subrace. Of course that's no problem at home, but I sure can't use it at AL. There's also no class feature I could use and refluff (you could just run a Ghostwise by having a level in GOO warlock as a Lightfoot, even if it would be overkill for the one feature.)
Is it worth taking flame pillar as a cleric, or should I be leaving spells like that to other people while I deal with buffing/rebuffing/support?
>>43615639
Yes.
>>43615746
>>43615699
>Reroll 1s and 2s on DAMAGE DIE
There's a difference between weapon damage die (savage attacks for example) and damage die (crits, gws)
As GMs you can do whatever you want, but for now it works and they didn't errata it yet
>>43616209
>>43616125
>>43616096
How would you do the Lythari? I was thinking unlimited wild shape into wolf, but keeping your HP.
>>43616440
>+1 [stat] (Dunno which for them)
>At will wildshape into wolf, same HP and ability scores, cannot appear as a different wolf
Probably.
Going to start my first campaign ever in December. Learning with a group of friends that have also never played before. So gd excited already, and 5e seems really intuitive. Thanks for posting all that info in the OP, that's how we're all learning.Planning on purchasing most of the literature soon anyway
Picture is my first Baldur's Gate character. Needed to fill this time with more DnD stuff.
>>43615751
New to neither.
Been D&Ding since maybe 1998 and been doing FR off and on since maybe six or seven months after that.
>>43615832
The novels are by far the shittiest part of Faerun an I recommend you ignore them entirely when exploring the setting.
Go see if you can download or read old 2e sourcebooks, which have really great detail about a lot of really cool things that most fantasy settings completely ignore.
This is especially true now when 5e's FR seems to roughly be reset to somewhere between 2e and 3e in terms of style and almost everything 3e and 4e did was completely thrown out the window.
>>43616096
Sea Elves have a little bit of a grouping somewhere near Waterdeep, but have a higher concentration in the Sea of Fallen Stars or around Evermeet.
So yeah, sort of in the Sword Coast area, though Evermeet is like the width of the Atlantic Ocean away from Faerun proper.
>>43616209
How's this? Seems a little broken but I dunno.
>>43616829
tfw
>>43616440
>>43616634
I'd roll up Lytheri as wood elves who shapeshift into generic wolves from the MM but with the HP and Proficiency of their humanoid form.
Lytheri aren't particularly powerful in wolf form and certainly don't have a big super-powerful hybrid form.
If I wanted to play a Shaman-esque character, would refluffing Cleric be the best way to go?
I wanna play a Half-Orc sailor who communes with the spirits of sea & sky to provide safe passage for ships.
>>43616895
>Shaman-esque
Cleric or druid would be your best bets.
>>43616895
A Cleric of a relevant sea deity or a Druid I suppose, though Cleric of a sea deity seems more up your ally.
>>43616682
Man, if you recruit Dorn Ill-Khan he's gonna look stupid as hell without his unique picture.
I'm pretty happy with my current game. It went from generic high fantasy (floating cities and airships) to DC's Suicide Squad in all of two sessions.
What do people think about the purple dragon knight from sword coast guide?
>>43617061
On-par with Champion. Decent for players wanting to play simple support-lite fighters, bad for anyone who is used the Battle Master and Eldritch Knight's levels of versatility/power.
>>43617085
damn shame, I would love a good supportive fighter like the battlemaster.
>>43617051
Ostrander's Suicide Squad, Simone's Suicide Squad or anyone else's Suicide Squad.
>>43617061
Has some issues, mechanically speaking.
But like most of these issues they don't come up too often in actual games and the people who complain loudest about them are the kind of really annoying min-maxing player who treats every character like a Magic deck and who rarely gets to play anyway because no many people really like that type of guy.
>>43617117
Simone never did Suicide Squad
Secret Six was kind of similar though
Ostrander>>>>>>>Giffen>Ryan>>Kot>>Kindt>>>>>Glass
>>43617103
It's a decent supportive Fighter.
Not massively good, but I find during actual play that just doesn't come up that often for anyone I GM or play with.
Everyone is effective enough to contribute and be useful and though some characters are often more MVP they hardly are functional enough to run entire adventures by themselves.
>>43617061
It's decent. If you wanna be a 4e-style Warlord, your best bet is to be a Valor Bard and fluff your spells as battlecrys and such. But a PDK isnt gonna make your party LESS effective, and is much simpler mechanically, if that's an issue.
>>43616895
Druid of the Land (Coast).
>>43617117
>>43617051
>Suicide Squad
Ayo son
hol up
>>43617175
Secret Six was Suicide Squad in all but name by admission of Simone herself.
Minor-league bad guys including Deadshot run around being assholes performing antiheroics and occasionally being funny.
>>43617192
It's not funny or creative on /co/ and by trying it here all you're showing is that you're immature, spectacularly unimaginative, or both.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were doing it to be ironic, albeit ironic in poor taste and boring execution.
>>43617184
>your best bet is to be a Valor Bard and fluff your spells as battlecrys and such.
We had a Valor Bard who's whole thing was "skaldic poetry" as his "instrument" he basically gave crazy Viking-style epic poetry quotes in mid-battle.
>>43617263
Sophisticated? Naw, certainly not. This is the board of "elf slave wat do".
It's just not that funny on /co/ but /co/ thinks is hi-fuckin-larius for whatever reason and can't stop spouting it.
I mean come on; dumb meme jokes are always total shit, but can't the shit be funny at least too?
>>43617117
I wouldn't really know which to pick, since I'm not that familiar. But basically it just so happened that a majority of the characters have a pretty seedy background, and the group ended up getting press ganged into doing secret military missions, while meanwhile being expendable disposable assets. We're playing right now. It should be fun.
>>43617301
Ostrander's SS was great.
Probably not what the movie is going to be doing because they did some pretty fucking edgy shit; the rough equivalent to their first mission when translated into modern day would be the Suicide Squad sneaking into China to kill a team of supervillains sponsored by the PROC who are purpose-built to kill Americans.
The original first issue had them hitting a villain explicitly funded by Iran for the purposes of terror activities. The stories just got darker from there.
Can you make a druid/fighter reliable? I kinda wanna do a tribal gish.
>>43616959
I'll role play us as twins...
>>43617331
Yeah, they weren't a Sucide Squad because they were going to kill the Joker; their supervillains were generally tied strongly to current events shit back in the 80's and they were a Suicide Squad because what they did is blatantly illegal by international standards, thus if they were found they would be disavowed and killed.
Killing the Joker is like...I dunno, something an FBI agent who doesn't care about due process would do.
You don't need an illegal hit squad for that.
>>43617358
Ranger with the Outlander background could fit a tribal gish.
>>43617362
Dorn won't even have the same picture; if you take a character's unique picture it picks a random other one from the list.
I think that's why they added a whole bunch of new ones for EE.
>>43616412
It has nothing to do with them being the weapon's damage dice. It has to do with that damage not being part of the attack, but an additional effect of the spell.
>>43617396
Thanks~ Is there a lizardfolk race yet?
>>43617424
Dragonborn I guess.
If you mean like the lizardfolk from the MM, no.
>>43616850
Source?
>>43617456
Damn. Is it hard to homebrew a race?
>>43617488
Lmao, I just typed it up then. Tell me what you think/what needs to be balanced.
>>43617502
It seems fine.
>>43617490
Depends on what you mean by "hard".
Since it's homebrew there's no reason a hugely unbalanced one is unacceptable if your group accepts it; that's why it's homebrew.
There's some suggestions on making new races in the DMG (with Aasimar and eladrin being the examples) but they're pretty loose guidelines in general.
>>43617536
Alright. I'll try to homebrew one up.I need it for my setting after all
>>43616850
Neat job formatting, anon.>swim speed equal to walking speedMobile feat sea elf monk torpedoes away
>>43617609
Well that IS why people make homebrew races, usually.
>>43617823
It's only about one and a half meters a second.
>>43617841
>At max level you have 30+30+10 movement
>Dash
>Swim 140 feet in 6 seconds
It's pretty fast, anon.
Threw something together really quick. Avoided doing the natural armor stuff because it either overshadows other features or conflicts with class features.
>>43617919
>7 meters a second is unreasonable for a sea elf who has slain gods
I think it's in a good place, to be honest.
>>43617919
That's about 16 mph or 14 knots. A bit faster than a Sea Lion. I like it.
>>43616850
I had pretty much the same idea. However I was thinking about +1 Con instead +1 Wis, to make them a bit more distinct from Wood Elves.
>>43618004
It's also very slightly faster than the first torpedoes.
Hopefully there's some other spell or magical item we can stack on to this to make the torpedelf more effective.
what does a spell scroll atack bonus do?
>>43618067
If the spell that's cast from the scroll requires an attack roll of some sort, it uses that bonus. Same for the save DC but with required saving throws.
>>43618052
When I was writing it down, I did notice that it was the same stat bonus as Wood Elves. I think constitution is actually a better idea, so I'm gonna change it to that.
>>43618061
>torpedelf
I'm not changing it just so that can be a thing.
>>43618061
Torpedoes aren't effective because they're fast/
They're effective because they carry tons of TNT worth of explosives.
>>43618244
Well, if the guns that monk is packing aren't enough, toss a belt of cloud giant strength on. That ship'll go down in no time.
Or in perhaps an even more terrifying turn of events, he'll wind up inside the ship.
>>43614625
I'm running a game where my players travel through all of them, so we'll see when I'm done. Personally, right now I love Acheron, but Limbo seems cool as hell as well.
Speaking of which, had a pretty dope ass session earlier tonight. Players went through a cave in Bytopia trying to figure out what was interfering with a portal to Elysium, discovered my pet character, a Roper sorcerer. Pretty intense battle went down, where they finally killed him after the Druid went down to 0 HP at one point and the monk wasn't much better off. Roper flew off though, so I might bring him back as an undead to mess with them.
Later they went to elysium to try and recruit more people for their interplanar war (defensive war, they're all nice guys) and the monk ended up in a WWE style wrestling bout versus The Colossus, where he proceeded to roll like a god while I rolled like trash. He's now wears The Belt of The Champ, and has the blessing of the god of wrestling.
Have you or any of your players roleplayed their backgrounds before being and adventurer? I plan on doing that this weekend. Share stories if you want
>>43618720
What do you mean?
>>43618395
>Roper sorcerer
What?
>>43618720
>>43618746
I think he means a sort of "prologue" adventure related to their backround.
Like the Origins in Dragon Age I guess.
>>43618746
>>43618746
I mean, instead of imagining and writing a background, actually roleplaying what made them choose to become an adventurer (wizard, paladin, whatever)... give the DM and idea of the kind of character you want to play and pure roleplay until a something comes out of it. And then maybe a time-skip until you're a level 1 whatever?
>>43618783
I took the Roper (pic related), made it sentient, and gave it the abilities of a level 6 sorcerer. Thought it was pretty entertaining.
>>43618789
>splitting things into 4-5 adventures
Unless everyone has the same background.
>>43618789
>tfw you mess up so bad you die in your background
>>43618844
Ok I lol'd
>>43618832
I mean, I GOT it, it's just....what was your primary interaction method?
Screeching and flailing your tentacles? Do the even have the prerequisite mouth parts necessary for speech?
>>43618834
>>43618844
Yeah, his idea would take awhile.
>>43618844
>be a sage
>bookshelf falls on you
>>43618844
>"...and that's how I became a warlock."
>>43618883
It could talk, mainly monologues, but whatever. I had foreshadowed it beforehand by having a teleporting Piercer keep dropping on them. There was a lot of tentacle waving to be sure.
Players seemed like they enjoyed the battle, though it had been a while since they had fought anything so that might have had something to do with it.
Where do I get A E S T H E T I C dice?
>>43619020
Vaporia, the Outer Plane of Aesthetics.
Alright, I'm creating a homebrew book for my setting in 5e. So far I have orcs partially written. Ignore the lore, it's copied from the Monster Manual, and is gonna change. I have the base orc stats up, totally 4 points. I'm gonna have subraces which add small changes (hopefully no further than 6.5 points). What do you think?Also, I may or may not be adding a subrace which can fly.
>>43619149
Faerun already has those flying elves, so why not?
>>43612208
Repostan as I'd really appreciate the advice.
>>43619149
I've finished writing the stats for two subraces. Does this seem balanced enough? Any ideas for new subraces, so far I've considered Mountain Orcs and Dark Orcs.
>>43619445
My favorite are traps that only one player can see so that they appear to be acting insane to the rest of the party, which might lead to the party not exactly trusting their judgement.
So maybe the party spots a chest and the rogue hastily opens it, reaches inside to get the jewels. The huge ruby he picks up sticks to him and starts swallowing him, and he realizes he's been tricked by a mimic. He panics and starts yelling for his team to assist him while running as far from the chest as he can. In his mind the ruby is still attached to the chest and is engulfing him little by little as he flails about. Meanwhile the rest of the party just watches as the rogue is screaming for help and rolling around on the floor, confused because he seems to be perfectly fine otherwise.
>>43619487
*changed flying speed to 30 feet.
>>43619487
Fuck your homebrew.
>>43619574
Yeah! Fuck that guy's homebrew!
>>43619606
I'mma lay it down on the grass and rape it in the ass.
>>43619606
Come on guys! Let's all fuck my homebrew;_;
>>43619662
Relax son, the benefit of homebrew is that it needs the approval of literally none but yourself.
You're already going above and beyond the rules, so why would you need to worry about how it fits into existing ones too much.
>>43619677
Thanks. I'm mostly just looking to see if the stuff I've made seems imbalanced. It's mostly for personal use, but I don't mind others using it. I just don't want others using something that is horribly imba.
>>43619662
Can't be worse than the corn-crusted turds that Mearls puts out, and I didn't even read it!
Friends interested in starting up some games again, we've only played 3.5 before.
How does 5e compare?
>>43619739
Less difference in powerlevel between the class tiers. Bards are fucking amazing now. Monks don't shit the bed. Fighters aren't useless. My advice? Read the PHB, it's in the MEGA link in the OP.
When you guys make a character, do you use official backgrounds, fan-made ones or just try to make one up to fit your character?
>>43619886
I just make one that fits my character. Most of the time I tweak the ones in the phb. Backgrounds aren't really a big deal and customizing them is no biggy.
>>43619694
It felt loose and made me flaccid. Had to close my eyes, think of SCAG, pull out and finish on it's face.
So /tg/ I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to realms lore but i've been reading through the SCAG and some of the 2nd edition books (as recommended on here) trying to remedy that. However I have a question:
In the SCAG (and some 2e books) it mentions multiple time the "chosen" of the gods. and that the gods are really big on having a sort of representative in the world. I think this sounds like a really cool plot hook and story idea but here's my issue. I can't find anywhere in the SCAG it details what kinds of power these have. It implies multiple times that they have power beyond "the norm" but I have no idea how to replicate that in the game, or what I should even be shooting for. Is this the kind of thing that could be made into a feat? a boon (as per DMG rewards)? or something along those lines?
>>43620058
They should be the most annoying, snowflakey mary sue-ish character possible to keep with current Realms lore.
>>43620058
Boons would work, or you could just make up your own shit that would fit with the gods that blessed the chosen. *Insert item name here* of *Insert god here* could also work
>>43620153
>Portable Ram of Sune
>Life cleric
Wisdom or Strength first?
>>43620178
Wisdom. despite their Heavy Armor and Shield proficiency, Clerics have pretty much always been primary casters. They just happen to be tanky casters. That's the way I play mine anyways.
>>43617420
It's still damage dice made after you hit. It gets multiplied on crits
>>43620058
https://www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/3reuz2/dd_5e_chosen_of_deity_super_thread/
>>43620058
Yeah, around the time of 2e the gods themselves started to get all up in everybody's business, and it was pretty much impossible for anyone to even slightly interpret a god's creed and dogma differently because he's bop down and tell you what was right if you did.
With 5e's greater focus on the church or cult of each deity, the Chosen appear to be the highest representations of divinity, though they're still mortal and can still make their own choices, as well as being significantly less powerful then they used to be.
>>43615013
Dwarves have been shit on everything but actual D&D, why does wizards love dwarves and hate rangers?
>>43615986
>rape, blood, lieeeee!
>>43614625
>What's your favorite Outer Plane?
Mechanus is fun, once you include all the things that have been put there over various editions. And Modrons, always Modrons.
Quick survey: if we ever get a Planescape setting book this edition, would you want all the planar magic effects back?
>>43619052
that grog is ruining muh ambiance, fucking heretic!
>>43614625
>New UA
>Ranger is still shit
nothing new to see here
>>43620716
I actually think deep stalker is in the same level as Hunter, which is not shit, just ok though.
>>43620731
Ranger needs a revamp to step his game up, nigga.
An outlander Fighter can top a ranger with relative ease.
>>43617919
Monks can dash twice burning ki points (or being Rogue2)
Thinking about creating a feat that lets you combine subclasses, you exchange one feature of your current subclass for a feature of the same level from another subclass of your class. Incredible good? meh? opinions?
>>43620770
Might be a bit tricky for classes where one subclass gets some sort of points or slots that the other doesn't.
Post your face when you realize quivering palm takes 1 turn to deliver the blow
>>43620770
It's probably going to be mostly shit except for a few broken edge cases
Did anyone here participate in the NEXT playtest? Were Rangers somewhat OP, and then significantly nerfed, and as a result nerfed to hard by accident? Were they okay and then got outclassed by other classes that got big buffs? Were they always shit? What happened?
>>43620808
What am I supposed to be surprised about
>>43620923
Only class that outclasses ranger is fighter with outlander background. Problem with rangers is that they don't have any original feature that makes them important in a group.
They were pretty much the same in the playtests (only hunter in those though), I don't remember any important change.
>>43620964
To this very moment I thought it was instantaneous, hit and the target makes an save roll, I just read that it takes an action to activate the quivering palm, so the target has still a turn to kick the monk's ass.
>>43620977
>Problem with rangers is that they don't have any original feature that makes them important in a group.
In 2e their original feature tended to be "fucking ridiculous THAC0 destruction"
>>43620701
not as they were, way too powerful.
something that doesn't make every other caster go 'why am I not living in a planar bubble, anyway' would be neat.
>>43620993
Look, I hate monks, but like the whole point is that they're a Dragonball Z character/Eastern superhero stereotype.
Basically what the 17+ monk is doing is charging one of those crazy super saiyan attacks, but in 6-12 seconds as opposed to 2-3 episodes.
>>43621031
It doesnt' work like that though, you hit, deliver the quivering palm and then in the next turn you activate quivering palm. Is more like a death touch than a genki dama/big bang kamehameha 10x
>>43619487
>sky orcs
Definitely one of my proudest. This is the current and probably final stats for orcs I'm going to release. I need to write up some lore, and then move on to my Imperial Halflings.
Could I use the bonus of Bard Inspiration, Bless, etc at the same time?
>>43621127
Yep, why not? as long as you aren't using two concentration spells at the same time everything is possible.
>>43621151
I don't remember well but I think that I saw some rule that tell that I couldn't use two bonuses or something like that.
>>43621127
Plus could I use Bard Inspiration, Superior Dice and Bless at the same time?
>>43621103
meant to reply to
>>43621076
>>43621161
Maybe you're thinking of one of the "YOU CAN'T STACK TWO ADVANTAGE BUFFS YOU FUCK" errata posts.
>>43621127
>>43621166
You should be able to. none of the three limit you from adding anything new to the roll. I'm assuming you are wanting to use precision attack, bless, and bardic inspiration to literally guarantee you never miss?
>>43621216
It was actually a player of my table that asked me, and I said yes, but I thought that was a rule that didn't allow it.
>>43620744
Which is what they are doing to be fair, unless the survey has the results of everyone wanting ranger to stay as-is. The UA was ridiculous and I have no idea how they let that out like that but the final ranger remake might be good. Hope is all i have at this point.
>>43621233
I'm honestly curious what people want out of the ranger remake, because it seems like every single thing people have an issue with. At least the UA ranger was more iconic than just nature fighter.
>>43621248
Something that defines the ranger in my case, currently they have nothing like Rage or Sneak Attack that makes them special. An animal companion is a pretty good way of doing that, the spirit companion was a test on that I think (though it doesn't have the same feel as a pet/ally/friend animal that those playing Beastmaster want).
>>43614625
whats the best background and race for a wizard that will be playing OotA, /5eg/?
Anything specific that I should expect?
what about a rogue?
>>43621031
>>43621047
It's because you still have to count to 10 and say 'Omae wa mou shindeiru'. If you've been doing anything else with your Quivering Palms - well, I won't say that you're doing it wrong,but you're doing it wrong.
>>43615986
>Blibdoolpoolp rises again! This is so exciting!
>>43621264
>>43621248
what about, now stay with me here
what about mixing it with the scout from 3.5, adding more druid and fighter stuff, plus a 'ragelike' bonu when hes on his terrain, some kind of stance for single target, multiple targets, running/hiding?
also more flavor shit. maybe something similar to bards song of rest or aa bonus to keep watch, make traps, etc
>>43621417
Skirmishing from scout? wouldn't be a bad idea.
>>43621343
yeah, expect rogues.
>>43621047
Or you can set it off 17+ days later, as long as you are on the same plane.
New DM here, DMing for a group of mostly new players. How do you keep your combat from dragging on and keep it interesting? I've got a group of 6 players currently (soon going down to 4, which might make things better) and combats drag on so goddamned long and people seem to be losing interest because there's such a long gap between their turns. Any advice on how to keep things flowing better?
>>43621793
Egg timers.
>>43621417
Stances would work, or a changeable combat feature. They could be the preparation based warrior.
>>43621834
I like that, make it that way for terrains as well so you can change your terrains on long rests maybe.
>>43621871
Another idea, what if the beast for the Beast Master is instructed to do a certain action, like Help or Attack, where normally it can only attack without your prof bonus to it's AC and so on, if you want it to make a different action you have to use (bonus) action, that action doesn't cost anything from the beast master and they have some bonuses like +10 speed if it's dash+disengage, prof bonus to saves and ac if dodge, prof bonus to damage and attack in attack mode? Plus of course some change like the various homebrews so that they aren't shit.
>>43621793
From my experience it's a mixture of being energetic and forceful. Usually if the DM is into it and is energetic and vocal the players will feed off it. Failing that don't be afraid to skip a players turn (or at least dump them at the end of the turns initiative order) if they don't have/can't think of a move. Try to encourage them to have their turn planed out before it reaches them, create a sense of urgency.
>>43621793
There are some things you can try but the most effective method is the players getting better at taking turns, and the best way to do that is practice.
Using a few strong monsters instead of lots of weaker ones can cut down on the number of turns in a round. You could also try making encounters where one or two PCs need to do something other than fight, but that can be tough coming up with something that doesn't feel like a chore and is actually interesting for the players.
>>43618395
>I'm running a game where my players travel through all of them
Bless your soul, I want to do this so badly.
>>43614625
>What's your favorite Outer Plane?
Top 5:
>5. Acheron
>4. Arborea
>3. Pandemonium
>2. The Beastlands
>1. Ysgard
>>43621793
I have the same number of players, and started out when they were all new to the game as well. Here are a few things that helps our group:
1. Punish them for taking too long. If it starts to lull, or they're perusing books for options or whatever, a simple "...5....4....3...." will get the ball rolling. Be consistent with how much time you give each player.
2. Have your monsters go on the same turn if there are a lot. Unless they get a surprise, (and even if they do), I'll do the surprise round, and then have them all act on the same turn simultaneously.
3. Be better and more engaging at describing what happens. I've been really trying to describe things in a more dynamic, and varied way, and have received compliments thusly.
4. Encourage the players to think about tactics and such OUTSIDE the game, or even during short/long rests. That way players are eager to try new things that they already have planned out while in combat. I've given inspiration for players discussing different strategies / combos to use, and then actually implementing them in a fight later.
5. Alcohol. But don't get wasted.
We also have a standing rule where if someone says they do something, even in jest, they have to do it. It's forced our players to really think before they speak, which has led to making more meaningful decisions in a timely manner, because they've already given it some thought.
I'd really like to get my players exploring the planes, but have never done anything:
A) Above level 10 (my current group is 7)
B) Outside of traditional notWestern/Tolkien fantasy
C) in the Planes
How do I into this?
Does alter self affect clothing as well?
>>43622303
Read source materials, study adventures and use premade ones, Planescape: Torment if you have the time and interest for hands-on experience with the planes (or at least one of them).
>>43622303
Make a campaign about how all your players were evil bastards that were executed but somehow ended up in mount celestia in death.
>>43622303
A lot of the planar creatures in 5e have weirdly low challenge ratings. You can throe slaad at them, and hordes of modrons, and probably half the demons and devils. You could also just drop them through a portal to Sigil and have them deal mostly with humanoids and low-level fiends speaking cant and calling them berks and all that.
And a word of advice from experience: I once planned a planar adventure that was supposed to involve the PCs following a plot hook into the city of Dis, but it turns out that new players are very reluctant to go to Hell, even if you assure them it's the nicest part of Hell. But they were perfectly fine going to the Abyss a session later. It's the power of words. Even though they may be the same CR, you get different reactions to "will you go into Hell to rescue your friend from the devil?" and "will you go into the Abyss to rescue your friend from the demon?"
Can I use Alter Self for a larger penis?
>>43622402
>>43622303
I still use this old dictionary of planar cant from the 90's: http://mimir.net/cant/cant.html
>>43622303
Traveling the Planes doesn't have to be a nightmare of being terrorized by high level monsters and surviving in inhospitable terrain. Look at Dante, he went through three Planes and all he did was walk around and talk to the souls of dead people.
>>43622480
It's a spell not a miracle.
>>43622303
Planar Portals
basically have a ton of them around that the PCs have to get gatekeys for. This can easily be accomplished by giving them a one way key to another plane and then they have to go on a variety of adventures to find a planar portal back to their home or maybe they have to trade favors with an outsider so that they can cast planar shift on the party.
My general feelings are that you should give them access to a variety of gatetowns in various planes. Nothing too lethal but you can also provide a variety of cutscenes like the PCs manage to see a massive blood war battle from a safe viewpoint.
>>43622480
>not already getting a friendly wizard to polymorph some sort of dragondick onto you
Do you even magical realm?
Technically yeah you can probably use alter self to do that I mean you can grow horns and claws so why not a horsecock.
>>43621793
I stand up during fights and encourage my players to as well. Also, if it gets to someone's turn and they don't know what they want to do yet, I just tell them they're delaying, except control casters or healers, since they often have more complicated decisions to make.
>>43622494
The inferno would be a pretty shitty D&D campaign. No combat, no treasure, and an annoying know-it-all DMPC railroading you through it.
>>43616096
>Aren't sea elves kind of a big deal off of the Sword COAST?
Nope, not at all.
>>43622353
No, the disguise spell is the one that affects your appearance.
>>43614625
Has anyone else noticed that WotC is currently trying to pretend Sharess doesn't exist?
Sure her followers are known for their spontaneous orgies, but they also work as counselors and teach the importance of emotional fulfillment.
>>43622580
The ideal point is somewhere in between the book and the video game.
Are people using the Old School Great Wheel Cosmology in their 5e games or some sort of homebrew?
I heavily pruned my cosmology because honestly about half of the great wheel is a pain in the ass to use in it's default state.
>>43622634
>spontaneous orgies
>implying this is a bad thing
>>43622634
Sharess is a demigod in a region not covered by the SCAG.
Plus she's almost certainly Shar or Sune or Selune masquerading as a seperate goddess.
>>43622733
Nope, I would just feel uneasy about presenting my whole setting in an abstract way that I didn't come up with and, as a result, will not fully understand. I can take it my way and alter it but then it is already not the old school great wheel or whatever else it was to start with. Also I like to do it simpler, my current one is just a "bubble" where the three different categories are the inside (material), the border (hell) and the outside (far realm).
Joining a friend's game tomorrow and wanting to do a Four Elements Monk. They said they would be up for discussing changes to make the Archetype not shit.
What could be done besides reducing ki-point expendeture?
>>43622974
Unbroken fist, Waterwhip and Burning hands are bonus actions and cost the same.
>>43622759
>Sharess is a demigod in a region not covered by the SCAG.
Waterdeep is in the SCAG, but even discounting that city, there has been lore since the AD&D days about Sharess worship spreading like wild fire, and other temples wanting to stop it due to it taking worshipers/tithes away from them.
If her demigod status mattered, Gwaeron Windstrom, Hoar (primarily worshiped in the Old Empires areas), Jergal (who has a minor cult following mostly in Thay and the Shining Sea area), The Red Knight, Savras, and Valkur wouldn't be featured either.
At least Valkur has the excuse that someone at WotC realized that FR has no good Storm/War deities, so they shoehorned him into that role, despite the fact his old lore specifically said he avoided war/fighting like the plague, and that his relation to storms was he helped people avoid them, not control them.
>Plus she's almost certainly Shar or Sune or Selune masquerading as a seperate goddess.
4e was almost entirely retconned out of existence, not to mention if she were Shar then she would have murdered the shit out of Sune (and probably Hanali Celanil) well before now, just as if she were Sune, Sune would have just come out and been clean about that shit, since she has no reason to hide it.
I understand that WotC is afraid of featuring the Goddess of Hedonism, excess, lust, fulfillment, brothels, cats, and pleasure seekers, but don't make excuses for them.
>>43622974
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1pdYIcfHauwNDM2My1XeWFYSDA/view?pli=1
For this half caster feel
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1pdYIcfHauwT0tzdmFjeXBHY1U/view?pli=1
For this true monk feel
>>43622974
Choose 8 disciplines instead of 4. They're all very small niche abilities.
>>43622974
>>43623001
And what's best with the first one is the justification at the end of the document. So your DM can see why they did it this way and analyze it better to see if he accept it.
>>43623000
>implying Shar can do anything about cross-world pantheons like the Seldarine
>>43623100
Considering Sharess is Bast fused to a member of the Seldarine (Zandilar the Dancer), for Shar to have killed and replaced Sharess she would have to be capable of fucking with the elven power structure.
>>43622733
>>43622962
For as much crap as there is about the Great Wheel in the DMG, that's not the cosmology Forgotten Realms even uses, at least not anymore. Unless you're playing old school FR or maybe Greyhawk there's no reason to use it.
The real problem is that creature types, subtypes and abilities are assigned for extraplanar creatures under the assumption of the Great Wheel. If you want to cook up a custom cosmology you either have to do some serious type adjustments and refluff abilities, or incorporate significant aspects of the Great Wheel.
>17 sessions playing LMoP and still in 3rd level
>This can't be right
>Ask around how long it takes
>6-7 tops
>The fuck?!
>Ok, gonna be an asshole
>Read LMoP
Ok, here's the shit I discovered:
1. Half the encounters we faced don't even appear in LMoP, and we got no xp for them
2. Monsters in LMoP are weaker than the ones we fought (goblins with +15 to stealth don't exist same as orcs with two attacks with a great axe), we got no extra xp for fighting them
3. GM deliverately hid information and then got mad at us for not knowing such information
Thinking GM didn't read the campaign at all and he was improvising poorly.
Yeah, I know I'm an asshole for reading the LMoP, but something smelled fishy and the GM was acting like an asshole too.
>>43623219
>waaaahhh im a metagaming pissbaby
>>43623231
Im still didn't metagame, last game was 10 days ago and I read the LMoP the day before yesterday.
>>43623219
17 sessions and still 3rd lvl, I would be a bit mad too.
If he want to do a low level campaign fine, but the players have to agreed
>>43623231
>waaaaaaaah the DM is all powerful and you have to suck his cock
>>43623219
if any player at my table began WELL I READ THE MODULE AND they would be shown the door
>>43623246
Great, if you want to metagame do it somewhere else
>>43614680
Material's good. Pissed it's FR, though; given that the core books and modules have all been Realms I would have hoped for something different.
> Eberron and Greyhawk when
>>43623255
>>43623231
If you make your players suspect that you're fucking them over, don't be surprised when they investigate and call you out on bullshit.
>>43622999
Water Whip is an action, it got errata'd :^)
>>43623272
Go away, we don't need power hungry DM.
They want you on the PF thread, go there.
>>43623255
But playing 17 sessions with not enough xp to go third level without warning from the DM that the campaign will be low level is perfectly fine? Even if none of the players expected that?
Another example
I know now that facing the necromancer and his 12 zombies gives the party 800 xp.
Well, GM told us that the xp was handled per "chapter", well. that "chapter" we fought, 20 goblins, 12 orcs, 1 ogre, 5 wolfs, and the last day 20 zombies and a "necromancer" with enough level to cast fireball. After all this we got 800 xp. Bear in mind the goblins had +15 to stealth and the orcs made two attacks each.
>inb4 how the fuck there wasn't a TPK?!
Well, so far we lost 6 PCs, never a full TPK because we ended fleeing.
>>43623367
>lost 6 PC
>He keep going
Oh come on
XP per chapter I can get it but if you do that just do milestone leveling with no xp.
>>43623273
The core books aren't Realms.
>>43623385
6 PCs in 17 sessions doesn't look that bad
>>43623402
Core books arent anything, but they lean towards a realmy game
>>43623436
It does for me. We started at lvl 1, we're 12 now and we only had three deats and two "left out" PC's because someone wanted to play something else
>>43623439
A realmy game? what?
>>43623439
>Dragonborn
>Tieflings
>Elemental Monks
>Paladins of Vengeance
>Divine classes that don't specifically require divine blessings
>Warlocks
>Sorcerers that aren't just natural spellcasters without some kind of bullshit excuse
>Barbarians that don't turn into werewolves and aren't Neutral/Evil assholes
>No firearms
Maybe 3e Realms where they just didn't give a fuck about what Forgotten Realms lore or backgrounds stated and started making shit up, but it's definitely not leaning to any proper FR.
>>43623455
I dunno, I always kill a PC every 4 or so sessions to keep things interesting
>>43623439
Core booms are all over the place fluff-wise, but they're more Greyhawk than anything, which is bizarre considering Realms has been the official default setting for the last 3 editions.
>>43623522
Are you confused? Third edition was Greyhawk, fourth edition was Points of Light/Nentir Vale/World Axis. Forgotten Realms has never actually been the default setting in the core books.
>>43623455
Players grow cocky if you don't kill their pcs from time to time.
>>43623219
It's fine man, I metagammed for LMoP too. I looked up the stats on the green dragon though I didn't tell anybody.
>>43622733
I mostly have it intact, but I took the one thing 4e did right and cut out most or all of the infinities. Infinite distances sound cool but are really just a fuck-you to the players. So the Spire is no longer infinitely tall, the Outlands are no longer infinitely wide, the elemental planes are no longer infinite in all directions, etc. Nobody's counted all the levels of the Abyss, but there seem to be something close to 666, and Limbo is finite but impossible to measure because space inside it is all weird.
>>43623899
In the case of the e. planes, while they are infinite, there's a finite amount of places you really want to go to. Same thing with the Abyss: sure, you could go to obscure layers that no-one knows about, but who gives a flying fuck about them?
Likewise, there's not really that much of interest in the outlands other than the gate towns and a few gods hiding out underground.
>>43624017
>Welcome to level 20341 of the Abyss, the Sea of Creamed Corn
>>43623508
>>43623659
The way you say that makes it sound like you execute them instead of rolling fairly.
>>43623219
>17 sessions in anything and still at third level
Fucking quit and find a different game.
>Can of Laughter
>Wonderous item, Very rare
>This small cylindrical iron container has a lid that can be opened to release the laughter trapped inside.
>When you do a 30' radius sphere is filled with roaring laughter that can be heard from 300' away. Each creature within this radius must make a dc 17 will save or be incapacitated with laughter for 1 minute or until the effect fades.
>For 1 minute the laughter persists and any creature that enters the zone for the first time must attempt the save listed above
>>43624099
>rolling fairly
A GM should never "roll fairly", you have a screen for something, anon.
I'm getting close to level 4 on my bladesinger and was wondering if it'd be better to raise my intelligence of dexterity first. They're both at 16 and would raise my AC but I only have 3 spells that benefit the increase in DC compared to having a constant increase to AC as well as damage and chance to hit with my weapons.
Alternatively I can pick up a feat but then its a question of war caster, resilience (con) or spell sniper to maximize effectiveness of gfw/booming blade with my whip.
>>43624234
You're still a wizard. Max int asap.
>>43624192
Screens are bad and GMs who use them are cheaters with power boners.
>>43624017
Of course there's only a finite number of places you want to go. So every infinite expanse is essentially an impassible barrier included to stymie potential explorers. You should be able to walk from the base of the Spire to a gate-town, but you can't, and that restriction doesn't seem to add anything. Likewise, you should be able to sail the river Styx or Oceanus between outer planes, because that's pretty cool, but you can't actually do that if everything's infinite.
It's kind of the opposite of the 4e/5e teleportation system, where you can't teleport to a place unless you know its magical phone number, so the party still has to explore overland to get those magical phone numbers before it can skip over that distance next time. The only way to get anywhere in the default Great Wheel cosmology is to know the location and key to the right set of portals in advance, so there's no point at all to traveling overland. It takes what's supposed to be endless wide-open vistas and makes them into something cramped and claustrophobic.
>>43624234
Considering 5e point buy forces you to have bonuses in secondary stats from the get-go, Int is the only that matters
>>43624313
You should be able to walk from Portugal to Vietnam.
How long would VHuman Fighter 1/Life Favored Soul X for Bless+Archery style+Sharpshooter be good?
Would you raise Dex and mostly focus on twinbuffs or Cha and eventually just be a more normal caster?
>>43624249
>>43624234
Yeah, it's hard to remember when playing a bladesinger, but you're still a full caster, and nothing you do with your sword is going to be as good as your spells. If you don't have a lot of spells that call for saves, you will, and you need to plan for it. You'll be swinging that sword less and less and casting more Fireballs and Disintegrates as you level up.
And this is a secondary concern, but Int is the favored dump stat of all non-wizards in 5e. Being a little better at those knowledge skills may prevent the party from doing something really stupid one day.
>>43624423
Yeah, and in theory you could, and that would be a great adventure. It would be extremely difficult, yes, but why make it impossible? There's just no reason.
>>43624446
I dumped strength and charisma because I didn't want to be the low int guy.
![1466[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/peTr378.jpg "1466[1].png")
This is how I tiefling bladelock.
>>43624960
You cancel your comic and fail to deliver to your kickstarter backers? That's sinister.
>>43625031
Its not canceled. Its been on "hiatus" for over a year because she is too busy going to cons to do the comic!
>>43625070
Absolutely dastardly.
