Not so fast Fagnus!
>>43571552
Sup?
Everyone just chill out.
>>43571584
that is the worst art I've ever seen
>>43571552
Russ was literally one of the worst primarchs Anon, please try to not be a faggot.
Space Wolves are the Poorly Written Special Snow Flakes of the 30k setting. They are 40ks Ultramarine "Do nothing wrong" faggotry that Horus Heresy tried to escape from.
Magnus and the Thousand Sons could have killed them all as they exited the Warp piece-meal near Prospero. Literally dead before ever touching the surface by their divination powers.
The Space Wolves are alive ONLY because they were sent against the most autistic of Primarchs who decided to cry and hide instead of simply killing the wolves and then dedicating his legion to fucking Horus' Shit in, which he would have been able to do better then Russ ever ended up being able to contribute.
>>43571764
>most loyal Primarch
>worst
>>43571798
It's been widely established that "most loyal" is not necessarily a good thing.
Their being "most loyal" is what turned an entire legion to Chaos. They didn't even question Horus when he told them to kill instead of what the Emperor himself told them. Khan. Corax, or even Roboute would have stopped and thought that it was slightly fishy/out of the ordinary.
>>43571798
>most loyal Primarch
>teamkilling faggot
>>43571818
The Emperor him to be a team-killer, though.
>>43571816
>>43571818
Why would he doubt Horus who spoke with the Emperor's authority? Besides the Emps was a little too busy fixing Magnus' colossal fuck up to be in a position to respond.
>>43571798
>Most loyal
>Didn't believe Big E when he showed up sayin "Hey man, you know why we're both so fuck huge and awesome? That's cuz we're related' after the old man schtick he pulls
>Challenged Big E when he didn't believe him
>Literally swore allegiance after getting punched, that's it
>Said that Big E was totally right, fuck psykers
>No more psykers
>They're like super bad
>BUT GUIZ RUNE PRIESTS AREN'T PSYKERS LIEK REALLY
Don't mistake simple-mindedness for loyalty
>>43571764
>most autistic of Primarchs
Incredibly autisitic primarchs is a long list though. Not sure if Magnus even ranks in the top 5.
>>43571764
>Space Wolves are the Poorly Written Special Snow Flakes of the 30k setting. They are 40ks Ultramarine "Do nothing wrong" faggotry that Horus Heresy tried to escape from.
Wrong.
Bullshit of the highest order.
>which he would have been able to do better then Russ ever ended up being able to contribute.
The storyline has the Russ preparing the Rout to smash right into Horus's coming armada.
>>43571839
Yes, he spoke with the Emperor's authority, but it's still out of character for the Emperor to change his mind that radically about something this important.
>>43571839
Maybe because he was there when Emps gave the speech about Psykers at the council
he was there when Emps told everyone to get along
And blindly following orders is not being a good soldier. They need to understand WHY they're doing it. If your LT said 'go shoot that squad because I said so' you would want some proof that said squad are a bunch of terrorists or child slavers or furries before you toss a grenade.
He accepted the order because he REALLY wanted to slay his own brother, because he saw them as weak and monsters.
>>43571846
Loyalty is won in Fenris. Not granted.
>>BUT GUIZ RUNE PRIESTS AREN'T PSYKERS LIEK REALLY
Can you find a line in the Horus Hersey where he says that?
Unless there is a line where he says that, then I am going to assume that the Emperor allowed the Rune Priests to exist in order to empower the Space Wolves against other legions.
>>43571878
>Maybe because he was there when Emps gave the speech about Psykers at the council
Then you know that he heard the Emperor tell Magnus that he will have him KILLED alongside his legions and have his name erased, if he dabbled in sorcery.
The Emperor changing his mind and ordering Magnus's death was not a far off possibility. It happened twice before.
>>43571878
Is this b8?
>"If you treat with the Warp, Magnus, I shall visit destruction upon you. And your Legion's name will be struck from the Imperial records for all time."
That's what the Emperor decreed at Nikea.
>>43571552
There was only one Primarch who did NOTHING wrong.
All the Blood Angels have side hobbies, right? Are there any examples?
>>43571887
In a way, the Rune Priests do not consider themselves to be psykers at all; during the Great Crusade, Leman Russ, the primarch of the Space Wolves, was among the voices in favour of disbanding the Librarius in each Space Marine Legion and prohibiting the use of psykers in any of them.[Needs Citation] Yet after the Emperor of Mankind issued his Decree at the Council of Nikaea, the Rune Priests continued to serve among the Space Wolves, stubbornly insisting that their powers had nothing to do with psychic ability.[7]
Fear to Tread (Novel) by James Swallow, Chapter Three, pgs. 114-115
The point is Leman Russ just had hate-boner over killing Thousand Son psykers without really knowing what the fuck he was dealing with.
>>43571764
Need to read Wolf King, where:
-Wolves get their shit kicked in embarrassingly bad by Alpha Legion, so much so even the Wolves are embarrassed at their own performance
-Russ gets BTFO'd so b ad he goes into his room and wont come out
-Russ realizes hes been a shithead and pledges to forge his own path/abandon the role of the Emperor's mindless executioner
-Wolves get saved by Dark Angels
Primarchs who 100% did nothing wrong
>Magnus
>Sanguinius
>Khan
>Curze
>Vulkan
>Angron
>Perturabo
>Khan
>Lorgar
Primarchs who JUST fucked my shit up
>Dorn
>Russ
>Fulgrim
>Guilliman
>Horus
Primarchs who kinda fall somewhere in the middle
>Mortarion
>Corax
>Alpharius
>>43572065
>Curze
>Magnus
>Lorgar
>Angron
>>>/trash/
>>43572065
Wrong. The only primarchs who did nothing wrong are, as follows
>Khan (
>Sanguinius
>Vulkan
Curze and Angron do not get free passes for being crazy people. Curze especially because he decided to be all fucking mopey about it instead of trying to make something of himself.
>>43572104
>Curze
>Lorgar
Okay, yeah, I'm on board, this goes in the tras-
>Magnus
He's like grey zone if anything, man. He didn't do shit out of disloyalty and hate-
>Angron
Literally everything bad that can happen to a Primarch happened to a Primarch. He was the ultimate example of a puppet of fate, and he eventually decided that the master he chose was better than the master he was given.
>>43572026
One :
The Silent King through temporal shenanigans knew that Sanguinius would have allied with him against the Tyranids.
So Sanguinius had no issue with working with Xenos. That means he is a heretic.
Two :
Sanguinius hid the genetic flaws of his legion from his father because he feared that the Emperor would destroy him and his legion like he did with other two.
He did not trust the Emperor with his life and legion. This means he was disloyal to the Emperor.
>>43572123
>Magnus
The Emperor saw Magnus's actions as the worst kind of oathbreaking.
>>43572123
I mean, choosing to destroy everything you ever worked for is not better than just sticking with that.
I don't care if he had the nails, he should have still been able to go "What is actually making people's lives better? Destroying the Imperium, or trying to make it work while I still have my sanity?"
So many of the Space Marines and their Primarchs forgot they were just tools. They were soldiers, they existed to make a better galaxy for the human race to live in. No more, no less.
>>43572130
He did two things that were perfectly sensible and would have actually helped everyone in the long term?
Oh noooooooooo.
>>43572147
He deceived the Emperor and he the truth from him. This is treachery.
Treachery against the Emperor is not sensible.
>>43572171
Sanguinius was loyal, his sons are loyal.
If the Emperor would have killed them all simply because of being genetically aberrant, then the Emperor is not sensible.
>>43572137
The Emperor is not the objectively correct paragon of morality, anon.
What he thinks is the worst kind of oathbreaking is simply his opinion, it does not mean that it necessarily is the worst kind of oathbreaking.
>>43572187
>>43572189
>mfw anons insult the Emperor
>>43572215
The Emperor destroyed all Earth's churches because blind faith is a toxic disease.
Question everything. Do not accept anything less than the truth.
>>43572215
Look anon, I'm not claiming that Magnus or any of the other Primarchs did things right (except Rowboat and probably Lion), just that the Emperor was no better than his sons.
>>43572234
>blind faith
And the last priest pointed out the irony of him demanding blind faith in him.
They all did wrong. They're psychic/genetically crafted warlords designed to reconquer the galaxy. None of them are good. Some of them might not be as bad, some of them were dealt by fate/chaos a worse deal than others, some were unable to get over their own shit, but they're all automatically fucked as moral entities.
Can we stop having these now? Its been like 1 a day for over a week.
>>43572065
Ferrus did nothing wrong
>>43572325
He died
Who do YOU think is the best Primarch? Vote here!
http://strawpoll.me/5969620
>>43571862
>>43571862
>>Wrong.
>>Bullshit of the highest order.
The wolves suck dick bro, every showing their always shown as the most loyal, powerful, super duper asshats and live by the faggotry of Magnus.
This is a primarch that tried to reign in Angron without the Emperor authority, started a fight, could have killed Angron only to realize that going the full way to killing him would have led to his legion dying to Chainaxe to the face from the World Eaters that had surrounded them and then, when called on his bluff turned and backed down, retreating. Then they try to write that as if RUSS won that engagement, when he and his legion would have died just to kill angron.
He tried to remove Librarians from everyone else but his own legion, because they were "special" which was the ultimate Bullshit.
He decided to hold a grudge and whine like a child when the Lion did the sensible thing and won a war.
He is that obnoxious guy who tries min maxing at the D&D table as a warrior and then gets mad when the wizard kills the dragon.
Wolf Fags are the worst.
>>43571862
>The storyline has the Russ preparing the Rout to smash right into Horus's coming armada.
Which we already KNOW is going to jack shit as they never made it to Terra, they are in the same tier as the Ultras, the DAngels, and the Shattered Legions, filler with endless "Maybe they will do something" as they are ultimately irrelevant in the end. At least with the other two their reasons made sense, with Ultras the war of Calth, the ruin storm, and his treasonous Imperium II keep him busy and The Lion is saving the entire eastern fringe from flat out burning to the ground because of the Night Lords.
The wolves are the idiots that blindly, without asking or questioning. attacked and ruined the only legion that could have severely threatened Horus' effort. One of Horus' biggest advantages is that his forces have the warp harnessing power of Lorgar and the Wordbearers and their abilites to fuck with fate and such.
The Thousand Sons had Psychers strong enough to possess Warlord Titans and pulp companies of Space wolves. The blanks and the custodes are the major factor that saved the wolves' hides.
Magnus and the Sons, with divination to the scale of 40k's Tigerious and the other 4 disciplines and the mind of Magnus Horus would have had a far more hellish time then just facing ferocious marines. He had the World Eaters to throw at the wolves.
>>43572432
>The Thousand Sons had Psychers strong enough to possess Warlord Titans and pulp companies of Space wolves.
Thanks to sorcery empowered by Tzeentch.
>>43572398
>>43572432
Dude just fuck off already, we get you have an unnatural hate of the Space Wolves and Based Leman Russ but you seem to be a tad obsessed
>>43572470
>>Wolf fag got triggered, news at ten
>>43572470
The anons who starts these bait threads daily seems to feed on their obsession.
>>43572432
>Which we already KNOW is going to jack shit as they never made it to Terra
With all the rectons in the HH series, how come you are so sure?
>>43572522
It seems to me that if you went to all the trouble to write
>>43572398
>>43572432
you are the one who is booty blasted
