Your emperor class titan was just blown up by a dozen flyers fitted with rail guns, what is the next step of your chapter/guard unit?
submit to tau victory?
>>43537964
Intensify forward firepower.
>>43537964
>your titan
>chapter/guard unit
Bitch, do you even 40k?
>what is the next step of your
Crashing those planes, with no survivors.
>>43538063
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpBngmCpUrU
>>43537964
Negative. Strategic Value Absolute.
Requesting Adeptus Astartes Ultra.
>>43537964
Check if we have Imperial Knights, if not, throw my weapons to the ground and start sucking the guy who drives pic related's dick.
Emperor Class Titan wouldn't be downed by 12 Tiger Sharks AX1's. There is a reason they invented the Stormsurge and KX139. This is because AX1's weren't enough to deal with Scout Titans and Titan Knights, let alone Emperor Class Titans.
I'm just going to cover the bases and say you're Carnac Tau-wanking again. Even if you're not, you're doing Tau wanking like he does.
>>43537964
Drop the bomb.
>>43538109
>There is a reason they invented the Stormsurge and KX139.
Protip: Fluff wasn't the reason.
>>43537964
Get their license and registration
>>43538109
Wrong, you git.
The Stormsurge and KX139 were created to expand the Tau anti-titan arsenal. Tiger Sharks AX1 were the first of many anti-titan Tau weaponry. They are meant to deliver a Mantas punch at long range safe from enemy fire. During its first test on Taros, a single Tigershark downed a Warhound Titan.
Can the Emperor Class Titan withstand the 12 punches from Manta Class Railguns at the same time?
>>43538173
If I remember my Titan correctly, I think an emperor class had sufficient layers of void shield for about that, not to mention is absurd mass.
Of course, it couldn't withstand a sustained barrage, but that's assuming it (or it's support) can't fight back
>>43538227
How many of his (admittedly numerous) weapons can hit a flyer by the way?
When the Titans fall, you deploy Centurion Ordinatus
Continue filling the skies with flak and nastiness.
I play Guard bitch, we don't give up until literally everyone is dead.
Also, even a flashlight is deadly when there are a million of them.
>>43538173
>a single Tigershark downed a Warhound Titan.
With one shot, after its missiles shorted it out its void shields.
Well, a Hammerhead managed to head-shot a Titan. I'm sure the a IG character did something similar.
>>43538278
the cathedral spires on its back are topped with triple-A
emperor titans are silly
>flyers giving titans trouble
Deploying Warmonger class.
>>43538317
>>43538173
>only a warhound
lol
>>43538340
Mmh, I don't see them in my version of the rules.
I knew they weren't up to date.
>>43538346
Please tell me that is scratch or thirdparty.
Because that thing looks awful.
>>43538367
Do you have a point? I brought up the example because that anon said that Tigersharks have issues with scout titans and knights which isn't the case seeing as one of them managed to fell one with ease which caused the rest of the titan squad to flee.
clog the atmosphere of every planet they inhabit with human flesh, miles high, until the additional mass collapses into a black star.
All for .000001% of the Imperium of Man.
Not even light will exist of tau existence, unable to break the event horizon. As a system falls to the glorious blood god, Humanity will go on fighting the only war that matters, against itself.
The infinite source of human life is cheap and plentiful, a limitless resource that can destroy the galaxy just by fighting itself.
The tau are nothing and never will be.
Tau are nothing, insignificant. a appitizer
>>43538402
its the size of a 28mm space marine.
its from epic. how much detail you need?
>>43538427
That is totally fine then, thought it was a fullsize model.
>>43538402
It's the official Warmonger titan for Epic, based on the plastic Imperator titan with metal gun arms, flak turrets and even a landing platform in the middle with a fighter.
>>43538471
No, sorry, that is in fact a conversion. The turrets are apparently from Epic FW hydras, etc. This is the official model. The turrets are a bit different, etc.
>>43538101
Do you like fishdicks?
>>43538173
12 shots wouldn't even down a warlord
Aren't Manta's stats a bit obsolete in the modern era with D weapons?
>>43538006
Too late.
>>43538660
INTENSIFY FORWARD FIREPOWER!!!
>>43538676
NAAAAAAAAAAARGH
*kablooey*
>>43538306
If one of us falls, ten more will take his place, brother.
>>43538625
A lot of D weapons are Blast, and Blasts can't hit flyers. There's also Template and close combat ones.
>>43538823
>If one of us falls, ten more will take his place, brother.
Space marine guard.
>>43539139
>implying guardsmen can't be bros
>not even brothers-in-arms
>>43538101
>knights
>implying cocksucking isn't your default behaviour
>>43537964
There are hundreds of emperor class titans for every tau flier.
Use a different interrogation drug.
This one did not have the desired effect and led to delusions within the subject.
>>43537964
I resort to actions not supported by the Codex Astartes
>>43539450
>There are hundreds of emperor class titans for every tau flier.
>>43539838
Given the size of the Imperium compared to the tiny amount of Tau controlled space, what he's saying is not so absurd. I wouldn't say hundreds per flier, but a 1-1 ratio wouldn't be surprising.
The Imperium just has problems bringing its guns to the fight. It's got a shit-ton of guns.
>>43539920
Ship full of titans gets lost in a warpstorm
>Laughing Tau
>>43539920
>The Imperium just has problems bringing its guns to the fight. It's got a shit-ton of guns.
So, What your saying is. The imperium can't win because it doesn't know where its guns are.
Warp storms, lost planets and generally not being a functional empire like the tau empire.
>>43540004
This used to be routine for the Adeptus Mechanicus on Mars. It's how they had to try and colonize new Forge Worlds before the Emperor came and delivered a more reliable warp travel.
>>43537964
Wake up because this is clearly an unrealistic nightmare
>>43540029
You get a lot done when you can implement full blown utilitarian dictatorship with the help of mind control and small size.
Then again, for all their "functionality" they still have rebellions and shit.
>>43537964
World designated highest strategic value. Surrender is not an option. Victory improbable with current resources; advise denying the world to the enemy. Exterminatus? Not possible with current firepower.
Helmsman; course for the planet, ramming speed. Engineering; remove safeguards and overload all systems. Weapons bay; prime all torpedoes and missiles. Do not launch.
Emperor protects.
>>43540029
>So, What your saying is. The imperium can't win because it doesn't know where its guns are.
>Warp storms, lost planets and generally not being a functional empire like the tau empire.
Kind of, but not really. It's not hard for the Tau to function, because it's young and small. The opposite of the Imperium. The Tau can be be efficient in comparison.
Remember that the Imperium has eradicated many other xeno races and empires before it ran into to Tau, when the Imperium eventually got around to bringing its guns to bear. Essentially the Tau survive because the Imperium either can't take the effort to squash them because it's so strained by its innumerable other pains, or it doesn't care enough because it doesn't see the Tau as a serious threat. Probably both.
>>43540283
Nids are coming to eat the Tau.
The Imperium shouldn't be worried about the blue scum.
>>43538917
The Manta has a special rule stating it's hit by blast weapons, and normal ground forces just shoot at normal BS due to its immense size.
>>43540325
>The Imperium shouldn't be worried about the blue scum.
What if they win?
>>43540354
Latest rules I can find says you only fire using normal BS. Nothing about blasts nor templates getting to hit it.
>>43540325
There is no major nid presence near Tau space.
There is only a huge Necron presence and it's currently directing its wrath on Ultramar.
>>43540325
arent tau perfect for killing nids?
hit and run tactics with good fire power
>>43540456
Probably, if the nids are just coming from one direction. Which the nids aren't generally restricted to, since they have all the numbers and can come from any direction, including from above or below.
>>43540456
Hive Fleet Gorgon gave the Tau a very hard time by evolving around their tactics and arsenals. Altered carapace and mucus membranes over their exoskeletons would highly bloom, defract and otherwise dissipate Tau laser, plasma and other assorted energy weapons.
Sure the 'nids eventually got stomped by a combined IG/Tau combined assault but a fistful of hiveships escaped with Tau in hot pursuit; not that it matters. The Tau think that if these ships get back to another fleet then the Tyranids will absorb the experiences and adaptations/evolutionary quirks that Gorgon did.Too bad that they're fucking wrong.
>>43538304
>it's looted
emprah help us
>>43540325
that's what I'm saying.
Imperium has much bigger problems than a tiny xeno empire near its border.
Huge Ork Waaghs, Resurgent Necron Empire, Unending Invasion of Tyranid Swarms, and Abbadon's next Black Crusade.
>>43538304
>>43540934
It doesn't look too different from a normal one. All they did was put some red paint on it.
>>43537964
Circle the remaining titans. Titians tend to fight in legions of 30-60. The only way they managed to make a kill on an emperor is if they managed to catch it of guard and isolated.
Also, the Titans aren't under the command of the Guard or the Astartes. They answer to the AdMech alone. As such, I really don't do anything but offer advice.
Besides, is't a dozen mantas something like a third of all tau super heavy assets or something?
They are now using modified Mantas to carry Stormsurges around.
>>43540963
even orks can recognize perfection
>>43541252
If they know what a magpie is I won't doubt it.
>>43540934
>>43540963
>>43541086
Not really. They still don't have the numbers to match the Imperium on the grand scale, but Mantas not only serve as troop/tank landers, but also as Crisis-suit bombers and 'fighters' in ship combat. Each warship would probably carry a few, as well as any major military installations.
Tigersharks, which are the subject of the thread, are even more numerous.
>>43541311
Again red pint.
>>43538304
>>43541311
>Prolly enuff Dakka. Jus needs ta be fasta. An mor Orky
>>43541196
Is it just me or would MG Rexs make good Anti-air/orbit guns.
>>43541196
>Using a spaceship that can kill titans to babysit a stationary robot that can do so with more difficulty.
What's even the point
>>43541413
Didn't Otacon design Rex as a Ballistic Defence platform without knowing its offensive purpose?
>>43541502
Well, the Manta isn't designed for it and usually ends up suffering massive amounts of damage in the process.
Also, because mechas sell and GW likes your monies.
>>43541338
Don't forget however many hammerheads and seeker missiles would be plinking away at the thing from ridiculous ranges.
>>43538346
I can not get over how flimsy those hip joints look in comparison to everything else. The aren't even armored properly.
>>43541502
Well, sometimes you want artillery when the Air Caste isn't around.
>>43541522
Always thought that was fanon. Would make sense though.
40k wise it looks like a primitive Imperial Knight. Y'know, before the AdMech forgot how to make efficient things.
>>43541555
>when the Air Caste isn't around
but you need the air caste to deliver it
>>43541555>>43541530
Then use hammerheads, riptides, and sky rays.
A normal manta can carry 4 hammerheads and 8 Crisis suits. That will do just as much damage as a stormsurge, if not more, even without the thing shooting.
>>43541597
Anon, baby, you're not understanding market appeal. The fluff is perfectly logical and coherent. Just because they change some minute little details like the combat doctrine of the tau, shouldn't affect your enjoyment of the IP.
Maybe floating spaceships consume more fuel than ballistic suits. I wonder if they have specialized Mechs to reload ammunition of the Stormsurge and the Manta.
They are probably just mag-lifted to the surface of the planet. It's a Gargantua creature, so it's deceivingly quite fast for its size.
>>43541660
The Stormsurge doesn't even look cool though. It's got no arms, it's got an open top to see the pilots, and its default pose is taking a dump.
Even the art in the codex makes it look like garbage.
>>43541532
Yeah, and Broadsides. Whether it is on a Tigershark or a Hammerhead, a railgun is a railgun, and it packs a punch.
Air forces can't hold ground.
>>43541661
They're using nuclear power, so fuel isn't a major concern.
And it's pointless if you're saving energy with the suit, since Tau care about lives and a fast victory more than saving fuel. And the suit needs to be air-lifted in anyway, so it's not even like you're freeing up a transport.
Artillery is more responsive to the immediate needs of the land forces than air support, they don't have to deal with anti-aircraft fire (only worry about counter-fire) and you can hide them in strategic places. Also they are probably cheaper than Mantas.
>>43541871
You know what all that is true for even more than a Stormsurge? Hammerheads.
They're skimmers, so they can relocate even faster and 4 of them can fit in a manta, they're easier to hide because they're not the size of a building, and they're cheaper because rather than being a giant robot, they're just the standard Tau tank chassis.
>>43541871
>they don't have to deal with anti-aircraft fire
given a stormsurge has to be airlifted into fights, it's going to be worrying quite a bit about anti-aircraft fire
Tiger Shark AX-1-0 are more cost-effective than Mantas. It's like a C-130 gunship. The US this kind of transport retrofited into a gunship because they can (it would be more efficient to just deploy helicopters or smaller planes). Note that C-130 Gunships are far more vulnerable to anti-aircraft fire and would never be deployed in the presence of a SAM.
>>43541703
Market appeal!
IP!
>>43542149
Yeah, because headless chicken robots are just the best. Everyone loves the Tau mechs for being stationary targets without arms!
>>43541760
You still need propellant to move in the void. Nuclear reactors just allows you to not carry fuel.
>>43542251
Except in space the stormsurge and the manta are using the same fuel, since the Stormsurge has to be carried by a manta.
Once you get into the atmosphere, everything works fine.
>>43542232
Sweet jesus that art is horrible. Half of the new artworks in the book are traced over the models showcased in the webstore.
This discussion would be easier if the Mantas armed to the teeth were the rarer gunship version. But since 40k rarely models logistical vehicles...
>>43542406
Well, there's always the Orca. Shame GW kind of forgot about it like so many other elements of the Tau fluff.
>>43538367
>mighty Warhound Titan
>>43538823
For the God-Emperor, advance!
>>43541532
The response from this would be fire a city vaporizing missile in the general direction of the incoming fire. Turned the whole continent into an ash-waste? Just setting the stage for the hive world that about to grow up here.
>>43543178
>Your giant fire magnet is vulnerable to mass long ranged fire
>"Nuh uh! I'd totally shoot a big nuke at them first because my guns are even bigger and better!"
>>43540211
So... you're crashing this space ship with no survivors?
>>43541530
> Well the manta isn't designed for fighting enemies that have extremely limited to literally nonexistent anti-air ability. After all, it's only equipped with a metric shit-ton of missiles that can down Void Shields in seconds, and a Heavy Railgun that can penetrate 100 meters of steel/ceramite from over 100 kilometers away. In addition, it's ability to carry an entire army of mechs with more railguns that aren't quite as powerful isn't really doing it any favors in the Anti-titan department.
FTFW
>>43540456
Not to mention their isn't many genetic advantages to gain by eating tau...
>>43540948
>Implying the high lords of terra would turn down Tau help once they start getting their shit pushed in by Abaddon and the Orks.
As soon as SHTF on a continious fronts and now pitty patty wave attacks like so far the Eldar and Tau hotlines are going to be ringing quicker than Drake can sing Hotline Bling
>>43543823
well there's the Etheral's hormone gland thing
that and their gains
would you be prepared for buff nids anon? no didnt think so
