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1d4chan.org/wiki/The_End_Times (Compilation of all the End Times changes)
1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Warhammer_Fantasy (All pages marked WF on the /tg/ wiki)
whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page (Warhammer Fantasy wiki)
warhammerfb.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Wiki (Warhammer Fantasy wiki)
warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Warhammer_Online_Wiki (Warhammer Online wiki with lots of background articles too.)
==Wargame=Resources===
www.pastebin.com/8rnyAa1S
==WHFRP=Resources===
www.pastebin.com/0e6RuQux
==AoS=Alternatives=====
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer
http://www.the-ninth-age.com
==Video=Games========
>Total War: Warhammer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i4d3ignBNQ
store.steampowered.com/app/364360/
>End Times: Vermintide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxTaQmhztVQ
store.steampowered.com/app/235540/
>Mordheim: City of the Damned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py7rpUz0eIw
store.steampowered.com/app/276810/
>Bloodbowl 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21P_ssGotxI
store.steampowered.com/app/236690/
>Return of Reckoning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKOhzfkCdbY
http://www.returnofreckoning.com/index.php
First for Skaven the master race!
>>43536089
Well now hold on, I remember that section as well but does it ever say that it was Nehekarans or just the remains of older, pre-Teutogen tribes?
>>43536119
it doesn't specify, but the maps in Sigmar books mark it as "Tomb of Rahotep" - which is clearly a Nehekharan name.
>>43536104
(never give up, never surrender)
Are Grove Riders with shields instead of bows worth it? I think I'll convert at least 5 anyway, but would be nice if they were cool.
And what about Bladedancers and musicians? Is it worth taking a musician at last?
>>43536119
>>Sigmar shifted a pile of pottery fragments, bronze arrowheads and broken sword blades with his foot, noting the unfamiliar design of the weapons. The swords were curved at the end, but straight at the base, though the handles had long since rotted away, leaving the corroded remains of the tang visible with scraps of leather still clinging to the metal.
He later reads
>>Rahotep...Warrior King of the Delta...Conqueror of Death...
Sigmar then feels the spookiness of Nagash on a dry wind.
>>43536171
Nice dryads cosplays
>>43536179
took me a second but...
>>43536171
I haven't started reading 9th Age yet. What are the pros and cons of equipping shields? Even just explaining it to us could help you make a decision, even if we're all retards
>>43536179
it's a wardancer, duh.
>>43536198
uhm, +1 to armor save.
Parry got changed, but still doesn't apply to calvary, so doesn't matter.
>>43536231
For how many points? Does it cost you any attacks or stop you from taking other options?
>>43536172
>>43536146
That uh, that's a pretty good indication that Nehekara went at least that far up. Post pic of the map, which province would it be in now?
>>43536252
I give up a longbow for it, that's it.
>>43536260
it's not far from Reikdorf (future Altdorf), so I guess it's south-eastern Reikland
>>43536260
That would either be in Pre-Empire Wissenland, or Solland, I'm not sure how much territory Solland covered before it was destroyed, or more likely Averland as the Nehekharans would have Black Fire Pass to move through. Plus Sigmar spent a lot of time in what would become Averland, if you know what I mean.
Should stick the trailer and website for Man-o-War: Corsair in the OP next time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twrLuASPnEI
http://manowarcorsair.com/
>>43536265
And what does the longbow provide? Which bonus better fits the role the unit is supposed to play in your army?
>>43536302
uhm, stop it! it's not THAT different from 8th Edition!
Wood Elf Glade Riders get an option to trade Asrai Bow for shield, duh. Is it worth it, at least a bit?
>>43536302
>dat orc face
What engine is using?
>>43536302
that bald captain is fucking awesome.
>humongous shark wrecks my ship
>my people are scared, ship trembles, people fall
>stand perfectly still, draw pistol, calmly aim and fire
>ship shudders under enemy barrage
>stand perfectly still, draw pistol, calmly aim and fire
>a huge angry orc leaps at me with an ax
>stand perfectly still, draw pistol, calmly aim and fire
this guy is everything I love about Empire. balls of steel, gives no shit, just does his job.
>>43536339
>this guy is everything I love about Empire. balls of steel, gives no shit, just does his job.
>>43536339
i bet Hanz of Nuln serves in his regiment
>>43536302
I really want to see more videos of this. The dev blogs aren't too bad, but a gameplay video or two would really keep my interest. I've really wanted a game that takes place on the high seas, but doesn't lose its appeal after a few hours like Black Flag.
>>43536365
have you tried Sid Meier's Pirates, btw?
>>43536374
Yeah, but stopped playing after my character started to age like an asian woman after 50. He may as well have been a shambling corpse.
>>43536385
meh, at that point I said "fuck it" and got myself a trainer, which boosted my fencing to youthful levels.
it also did all the dancing for me, which was nice, 'cos I hated that minigame.
so, we have High Elves, Dark Elves and Wood Elves, which is nice and proper.
we have High Humans (i.e. Empire), Dark Humans (i.e. WoC) and Wood Humans (i.e. Brets)
the question is... where're my Wood Dwarfs?
>>43536417
They're called skarrenawi, hill dwarfs. They live above ground and even near forests.
>>43536417
>>where's my Halflings?
Fixed that for you, chief.
>>43536458
I thought that halflings were a failed attempt at creating the Ogres
>>43536472
So are halfling chaos dwarf fault? Like every annoying race?
>>43536472
Halflings and ogres were last ditch attempts at a magic resistant race by the Old Ones, but were failures.
>>43536491
Ogres were a success, but the gates blew up before they could be taught their mission by the Old Ones.
>>43536491
Not exactly, before 8th ed. Ogres have better chaos resist than any other races (except lizards).
>>43536508
Considering ogres can use magic, I wouldn't call them a success. Halflings can't use magic at all, but were considered a failure as well. The qualities both races had just weren't right for what the Old Ones must have wanted, as both are lazy, gluttonous assholes.
ogres can still get corruptified.
in fact, I don't understand why Chaos hasn't bribed all the ogres with yummies and wiped out Empire long ago.
>>Age of Reckoning
I'm actually tempted to get in on this, but I can't find a place to get the game. Any help?
>>43536544
Halflings were Proto-Ogres, the absolute lack of magic use was considered too big of a trade off for the resistance and Ogres currently need to be willing participants for most corruption.
Imagine if they had been trained or mentally programmed to never willingly participate in Chaos crap.
>>43536561
A few ogres are intelligent enough to know that siding with Chaos isn't always the best idea and that they can play both sides against the middle. Being mercenary is more profitable.
>>43536470
Near feral Lizardmen live on the Dragon Isles, as some have only the youngest Slann to guide them while others still have no Slann at all. The Dark Lands is home to the Chaos Dwarfs and their greenskin slaves. Various Chaos tribes migrate through there as well, though it's mostly to trade with the Chaos Dwarfs.
>>43536579
I suppose we'll never know. Humans are also speculated to being unfinished as they were still savages when the Old Ones disappeared.
>>43536636
I hate how Chaos Dwarfs will never get much attention or even codex from GW,while being so important faction
>>43536490
>man, these damn greenskins are always brawling with eachother rather than doing their slave labour duties like good slaves would
>I know, we need to mould a new breed of greenskin to keep the lesser races in line..
>By Hashut, I've got it! We'll call them Black Orcs, a smarter, tougher and more organized race of orc, fit for command
>yeah that sounds like a good idea
>like a good idea
>good idea
>>43536661
I can only hope they show up in Total War: Warhammer. If not, they'll show up as crew for the Hellcannons.
>>43536575
Have you tried to look up "return of reckoning"?
>>43536661
I'd not call them an important faction, I mean, the world would work almost exactly the same without them.
But I agree, I'd like to see them more
>>43536696
If total warhammer turns out to be successful I don't see anything stopping them from adding the chaos dwarfs units of forge world, even if just as new units for warriors of chaos.
>>43536778
>world would work almost exactly the same without them.
But Warriors of Chaos would have no armour,no artifacts,no chariots and no cannons. All orcs would be savage orcs,and ogres would rule a far more bigger empire.
I would say they are pretty important
>>43536778
>created black orcs = responsible for Grimgor and more
>not important
>>43536796
Oh yeah i forgot that they're also the ones to blame for orcs getting their grips on iron weaponry instead of sticking with sticks, stones and bones
>>43536796
That's not all true, to be fair. The gods gift their warriors with artefacts, weapons and armour. What they really offer are the Hellcanons. Not to say that they don't make artefacts, weapons and armour, but Chaos forces wouldn't be screwed without the Chaos Dwarfs.
>>43536799
If they were important, then why haven't they got a army book or appeared in the End Times books?
>>43536796
>Warriors of Chaos would have no armour,no artifacts,no chariots and no cannons.
What? The Chaos Gods supply the Chaos Warriors from their own hell foundries.
The only thing Chaos dwarfs did for the WoC was give them cannons. Khorne does that too on his own.
>>43536845
They have a book. It's really old, but they had one. And don't use the End Times as a measure of quality. Even armies that have updated book3s didn't get a lot of spotlight, like Beastmen.
>>43536855
It's both. Chaos Dwarfs know how to smith Chaos Armour as well.
>>43536845
Because GW doesnt care
They were supported to maybe around 5th edition but they got axed because the minis didnt sell well enough
That doesnt nullify their importance in the lore itself, when the minis dont sell like normal chaos and spess mehreens do
>>43536855
>What? The Chaos Gods supply the Chaos Warriors from their own hell foundries.
Nah, all WoC full plates maded by Chaos Dwarves and have Hashut demon inside.
>>43536867
No.
They are given armor from the Chaos Gods themselves.
>>43536873
>he fell for it
>>43536862
>Beastmen
But beastmen featured in a lot of the battles and had their characters do stuff. Sure most of them died but they were part of the Chaos horde.
>>43536886
Compared to everyone else, they did little but slay nameless foes and have all their characters die off in little blurbs. If you weren't Empire, Elves, Dwarfs or Chaos, then you may as well have killed yourself.
>>43536880
>>43536873
>>43536867
>>43536862
>>43536855
>>43536873
The dwarfs have been mentioned multiple times as forging numerous chaos warriors weapons and equipments.
It's both daemon, chaos dwarfs and chaotic mortal followers that do the job at the forges.
>>43536901
>pickled bloodletter's head
nice taste some chaos dwarf has
>Chaos Dwarfs dont matter in the lore because they never did anything important
Ahem
>>43536931
to be honest, it's kinda true and not true at the same time.
it's like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D for MCU. yes, if you care about Agents, you know they have direct impact on MCU, but you can watch MCU with no problems without even being aware Agents exist.
same here. if you care about Chaos Dwarfs, you can plainly see their impact on WHFB, but if you have no idea they exist, your vision of WHFB doesn't suffer either.
where would I go for totemic animalistic mask bits? gotta be cheap-ish, 'cos I need a whole bunch, and must fit regular infantry nicely.
>>43536931
>implying grimgor isn't the lowliest and less charismatic of greenskin warbosses
Azhag the Slaughterer
Gorbad Ironclaw
Grom the Paunch
Skarsnik
They were all better
>>43536931
WE WILL NEVER BE SLAVES!
>>43536971
desu, Skarsnik has only one redeeming moment, and it's part of shit we don't consider canon, do we?
>>43536931
>>43536989
Skarsnik novel and a lot of the novels centered about the eight Karak mountains paint him as a really interesting character.
>>43536989
why the hell my "t b h" turned into desu?
>>43536969
Try to look some PP Hordes models, if I remember correct, they have few models with them.
>>43536989
When I read that part, I almost started crying. Granted I was really drunk, but him crying over Gobbla reminded me of that fat guy and the Rancor. It was like he lost his best friend.
>>43537015
I will, but that shit not gonna be cheap, I'm sure
>>43536971
Grimgor got the most work done tho, desu
>>43537079
Gorbad Ironclaw and Grow did way more.
>>43537015
aaand, nothing really fitting there
>>43537003
I'm going to assume it's an auto filter of 4chan
Test:
desu
b
h
desu
e
s
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>>43537079
>Grimgor got the most work done
Both gorbad and grom did way more damage to the empire than grimgor in all his life
>>43536470
>What lives on Dragon Isles and The Dark Lands?
IIRC the Dragon Isles is mostly Lizardmen, while the Dark Lands is dominated by the Chaos Dwarf empire, with a few greenskins and Ogres eking out a living here and there.
Been out of it for a while, how do the current Dark Elf infantry compare to the old box?
>>43536971
Always thought Morglum Necksnapper was a boss and was a bit disappointed he never got to do anything.
>>43537221
Except Witches (and may be corsairs) they all have static poses.
>>43537230
>>Da east is green.
Didn't Grimgor kill him because one of his jobs was sweeping up characters and armies that didn't have models or books?
>>43537247
I did hear something along those lines but to be honest I had kind of stopped paying attention by that point.
>>43537221
Spear, crossbow and sword dudes all look comparable but are static.
Corsairs and witch elves look great.
Does anyone have a decent map of the Southlands? This is all I've been able to find and it blurs if you zoom in close enough to read anything.
I need some human spine bits
like picrelated
anywhere to find those?
>>43537390
what size are you looking for
>>43537393
well, it should look like regular 28mm human's spine
>>43536984
The way Grom says it always sends chills down my spine
>>43537397
I'm looking through my bitz bins, I'll let you know if I find anything good, I thought it would be easier but all I can find is monster spines
>>43536989
Aw but his mini looks fuckin' ace
>>43537463
ok, thanks mate
>>43537100
Really? Well, sorry.
Also, what especially you need?
I have a ton of minis in my hands so Im going to need a word of advice
Which is the fastest way of getting units done? Paint all the minis at the same time or paint them in batches of 5 or more? Im worried I wont have the patience to basecoat etc. 20 - 40 minis at a time
>>43538083
If you have an airbrush or a can of spray primer I would suggest priming/basecoating the whole lot at once.
Then doing the rest of the painting in as big a batch as you feel comfortable with.
>>43537478
The best I found was Warlord Spinetail's, I'll keep looking but I figured I'd update
>>43538527
wow, thanks for effort! but really, you shouldn't. I think I'll just try greenstuffing it.
>>43538591
I'm using this as an excuse to finally organize my shit anyway
our threadly topic...
Hey, /whfb/, what are you working on? Let's show each other that hobby's ain't dead! Tells us about your current project!
>>43537390
>>43539048
Wrapping up my Troglodon. I still want a carnosaure, a bastiladon, ripperdactyls, teradons and additional everything for my Lizardmen, but I think I'll put all that on hold after the trog to start ogres. I'm the guy above who's gonna buy 250€ of OK soon.
>>43539048
I was gonna build some Mordheim/Frostgrave kind of buildings.
Bought everything I need and then got sidetracked/hesitant to actually do something.
I have this irrational fear of doing this 'wrong' smoehow and I obsess over measurements like how high the buildings and each level should be, how to build playable stairways and accessible houses.
I guess this is what it feels like to be autistic.
>>43539048
Thinking where I can find good renaissance manor model.
>>43539063
wow, this is pretty much what I need, but jeez, 5 bucks for skellington? and it's metal, so ain't that good for conversions... I'm better off greenstuffing them. Thanks anyway!
>>43539048
planning a Lahmian archer Lady conversion atm, so I can field Sylvanas from Warcraft and feel like a boss.
>>43539106
Please post it when finish.
>>43539091
know how you feel. have bunch of bland-ish models, because I always hesitate to actually use those decorative/optional bitz (e.g. torches or lanterns on Corpse Cart), until I'm 100% sure I wanna use THAT bit and I'm won't need it later for another conversion. this way I have a hoard of sprues with bitz I treasure, but never use.
>>43539048
a bastiladon
It was going to have shocking purple markings, but it's ended up a soft lilac. Kind of grown on me, since the thought of a laser death turtle sleeping in a field of flowers is amusing.
>>43539118
meh, ain't gonna happen anytime soon. was focused on bone bow first, but when I moved on to the model itself, I realized I actually used up all the bits I was counting on. now I need another Coven Throne (which is okay, 'cos I need another Coven Throne anyway)
Were these the Sea Elves?
>>43539470
>call down a comet
>WoC couldn't use Lore of Heavens in WHFB
fucking cheaters
That must have been fun.
>>43539449
So you planing to use some DE witch model, but what about cloak?
>>43539693
what? I'm talking of picrelated, nothing DE. I'm making cinematic Sylvanas, not that bare mid-riff absurd from WoW
>>43539724
>what?
Oh shit, looks like I mistook with caludron.
>I'm making cinematic Sylvanas,
She wear a cloak in trailer.
>>43539752
I was reacting to Witch Elf part.
I'll pick a cloak from my bitz treasury when I get the Coven Throne, so it's fitting length and stuff.
>>43539481
>All chaos lores of magic are listed under Lore of Heaven in Storm of Magic
>Lore of Nurgle is sublore of Lore of Life
>Neither of these is avaiable to Woch sorcerrers
Such is life
>>43539470
>yfw somewhere in the warhammer world, there is a settlement being terrorized by beastman Streetsharks
>>43536989
>it's part of shit we don't consider canon
If I want to ignore the End TImes then how much do I have to discard, exactly? A lot of the 8th edition army books and novels build up to the End Times. Which specifically, or what sections anyway, need to be discarded?
Is there anyone here who using ragging heroes models?
>>43540390
Just about all of it, really. Everyone acts like a stupid asshole for the sake of the plot and it's all basically pointless as Chaos ends up winning in the end.
>>43540390
May be just replace final part (End Times itself) by SoC.
>>43539470
There is no indication. For a while it was rumored that that was a hint to the next WHFB race, which was further bolstered by pic related appearing in an official Games Day panel slideshow. Fishmen never got any more info though.
In a fresh idyllic world free from much strife how do you start the Skaven?
I'm in a D&D campaign and my ratfolk PC is experimenting with diseases and other assorted bad shit
>>43540482
I'd probably pick up the battalion and a hero, then get used to painting a lot of rats.
With all the video games about fb, they should make a TF2 clone featuring all the race as the classes
It would be retarded, like Chaos Sorcerer and Empire longsword fighting in the same team, but it would be fun
>>43536161
Gonna post a couple images of the Dwarf Ranger from Vermintide in hopes of getting ideas for models to use/convert for a Mordheim warband based on the Vermintide crew.
The Avatars of War dwarf rangers are too cloak-y, by the way.
Question about Mordheim vidya. Did they finish the game or it's still early access?
>>43540656
Off-topic:
>>43540610
Could someone explain to me what this image set means? I've seen it repe
>>43540669
repeatedly.*
>>43540669
I don't know the name for it, but it's usually used for real world countries or states within a country and your opinion on them. Picture related are the Canadian territories in relation to each other, but not including the provinces.
>>43540656
>>43540669
As a person who plays Vermintide, I have to tell you guys the game is great, and the best part of it is the voiceacting and dialogues. If you ever catch it on a discount don't hesitate, it really reflects the WH world well, and I mean the Old World, even though the End Times are just beginning in the game.
>>43540390
I guess it's personal.
My headcanon involves only some new characters, Nagash returning (with or without the sacrifices, I don't care) and that's it.
8th Edition starts a lot of plots indeed, but I don't like how they were resolved in End Times. I prefer open-ended storylines anyway, so in my headcanon they remain open-ended.
>>43540610
I'd swap Eshin and Pestilens
>>43540390
consider the most accepted timeline stopping at archaon's incoronation, without considering the end times books, sigmar's blood and the whole story about the captured elven princess
>>43540835
forgot to add; it's not that the whole end times thing is considered not canon in its entirety and ignored, just treat, for the sake of conversations and setting, that it still has to happen and may happen differently from the exact way it unfolded
for example, the end of the elven civil war, the resurrection of nagash and the fall of the moon seem to be widely accepted events to consider in any different rewriting of it regardless of the changed details around them
So did they really just repeat Storm of Chaos with the same champion but declare chaos won this time?
>>43540742
Theirish?accent of the wood elf fits her p e r f e c t l y, i never thought about how Wood elves would sound but i think its great and makes me D i a m o n d. H a r d.
>>43540935
yes
it wasn't even a contest, just "chaos kills everyone and suffocate everything while they stand still and die: a series of 4 books"
>>43540935
That implies they let the players have some input into the invasion this time around.
>>43540960
I agree, the accent fits perfectly, and it also irritates me greatly. That was the point I think?big dwarf fan here
>>43540960
The Witch Hunter has the most annoying and yet the greatest voice of the bunch. I love hating him.
>>43540960
They're based on Celts and Native Americans, mostly Celts, so I think that sort of accent is pretty good. Even though all the Warhammer accents have to come from the British isles for some reason, I wanted the Soldier to sound more German.
>>43540935
Yep. They even had Valten appear again but made him fuck off to death just because.
is Vermintide on torrents already? sounds so good from your comments, I wanna play it.
>>43541197
This is why Endhammer exists. To make these stories not so shit (and bring back a lot of Storm of Chaos, 'cause at least it wasn't fucking End Times)
>>43541206
Pay for that shit, you shmuck. It's not even a full-price game.
>>43541457
I'm not paying GW for games
>>43541487
If you pirate it you would have to play exclusively with bots, so good luck with that
And the game is really worth the price
>>43541508
bah, I can play pirated L4D over LAN with friends
i'm sure this is same thing
>>43540742
The game's amazing. Hence why I want to make a Mordheim warband.
So, any ideas for models to use for Bardin? Something I can convert up and make look like him?
>>43541611
I would suggest normal dwarf warrior, they come with plenty options, and they have horned helms, I believe they even have the same axes, some of them at least
You would only have to find a good backpack, no idea where you could get one
>>43541653
And a good crossbow.
Is there anyway to play a game Mordheim using the RPG or should I go with a different system
>>43541998
>using the RPG
Wut?
>>43542066
i mean I want to run a game set in Mordheim using the RPG
>>43542066
WFRP I'm assuming.
>>43542136
You could so long as your warband isn't too big. WFRP has rules for hirelings and henchmen and rules regarding their loyalty. But if you get too many, it starts to slow the game down.
>>43540659
It's still EA but it's mostly finished and very fun. Four warbands, character progression, economy, lots of maps, all in place
>>43541066
I don't like Bardin just because he's ludicrously short. Dwarfs are shorter than humans but he's Halfling size at the most.
>>43544107
is it bad I don't see any humour or problem in his reasoning? I think it may be bad...
>>43543539
He's Oldhammer Dwarf-sized.
>>43543539
what if he's not just a Dwarf, what if he's a Dwarf dwarf? like there are human dwarfs, he's a Dwarf dwarf.
>>43541007
Seriously, nobody in -any- faction other than Chaos and Skaven was decently represented. Lizards were pants on head retarded and didn't use half the tools at their disposal, Dwarfs put up literally no fight against Skaven and Orcs, despite having fended off colossal armies of the beasts numerous times in the fluff, elves were all kinds of a clusterfuck that I don't even have a llong enough character limit to properly describe, ogres were hinted as to be fucking shit up after the mountains of mourn were blown up but promptly disappeared off the face of the earth until they got somehow subjagated by orcs, chaos dwarfs did literally nothing, Brets -almost- did something, and then were killed off camera...
Jesus the list just goes on.Nagash and Settra were kinda cool, I guess.
Reading my old 6e books again lots of them talk about Chaos massing under Archaon for the final war, how far back was he a character who was meant to lead the final victory of Chaos?
Anyone play Mordheim skirmish somewhat frequently?
I have trouble finding games and got tired of sitting in this lobby with some french fuck for 20 minutes waiting for him to start the game.
>>43540656
>>43540669
>>43540742
The Dwarf in Vermintiede is a few inches too short and nowhere near broad shouldered enough, he looks like a fucking Gnome.
>>43543539
>>43544802
>>43544960
He's not just sort, he's also got tiny little baby limbs, nowhere near broad enough in the shoulders of muscley enough on the arms and legs.
>>43546058
>>43546090
Maybe he's just a runt of a dwarf? We haven't seen any other dwarfs in Vermintide, so we don't have anything to compare with.
>>43545750
Every everchosen is, or at least was a character who was meant to lead the final victory of chaos. Mortals just kept throwing a spanner in the works.
Archaon is just the latest one.
>>43546610
I meant when did the fluff first start referring to the imminent war he would lead/have him as a character.
>>43536863
When talking about Squats, Jervis said that armies don't get axed because of sales, but rather because of other reasons such as the Design Studio feeling as if they failed in some way. I imagine it was something similar with the Chaos Dwarfs.
>>43540420
>Everyone acts like a stupid asshole for the sake of the plot
Who? Don't say Teclis because doing things for the greater good is not being an asshole.
>as Chaos ends up winning in the end.
As it should considering the events. You pretty much have to get rid of Archaon if you don't want Chaos to win.
>>43541442
>To make these stories not so shit
lmao
>>43546610
He's supposed to be the 6th and final Everchosen, though there was one whose body was possessed by Be'lakor so I'm not sure if he was even properly crowned. If he even counts as an Everchosen is up for debate.
>>43546761
I want to say 5th edition, but I can only say for certain that it was in 6th edition where he was 'fated' to destroy the world, as when 6th came out was when I first started playing Fantasy.
Did Sigmar ever fuck somebody?
>>43546090
>>43546058
Not all dwarfs are compact mountains of muscles, he's pretty average I'd say, not a veteran warrior maybe.
>>43546807
There's a whole knight order of "sigmar's blood" plus volkmar apparently had got some too
So, probably?
>>43546796
Weren't the everchosen 13 with archaon?
>>43546784
And here comes cancer
>>43546990
Nice counter argument
>>43545158
I'm curious what you'd do with Endhammer, if you could change some story points around. The Dwarfs still need a ton of work, as do the Lizards and Skaven (as their role in End Times was much changed). Elves have tried to be salvaged with some parts of Khaine intact but most of it thrown out the window.
Brets have been brought back from the brink.
>>43547099
Counter argument to what? To your opinions? Why should I even try to discuss with a shitter like you about them?
>>43546807
The woman he loves, Ravenna, and Freya, Queen of the Aesoborn tribe. She bore him twin sons in secret, though he found out later. Their lineage was kept hidden so that they wouldn't inherit the Empire after Sigmar left to the east.
>>43546796
>and final
they were all supposed to be the final one
>>43547504
That's why I said 'supposed to be'. It's one of those biased statements that you can't take literally, it's just something that's been used to describe him.
>>43547535
Oh, I guess that's true.
After the end times it seems I've gotten used to bashing my head against a brick wall.
>>43547583
That's why it's good to ignore the End Times and AoS. It just gives you a headache with its stupidity.
>>43547625
Personally I just have things in the recovery period after the Storm of Chaos failed, much neater.
>>43547735
My WFRP group's "canon" takes place after the Storm, it does make for interesting stories. Chaos isn't as omnipresent as it was, the eastern provinces are in shambles and near collapse, Erengrad is slowly being rebuilt and Bretonnia and the Empire are enjoying relations like never before.
>>43547735
>>43547806
Would you consider contributing to Endhammer? We're always looking for more ideas. And the situation is essentially Post-Storm with some End times odds and ends
>>43548415
I wouldn't mind, even if it's just throwing out some ideas. I know more than a fair bit about the setting, it'd be nice to see some people using my contributions.
>>43548447
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Endhammer
Be glad to have you look at what we've got so far and offer any suggestions. It's meant to be a setting for WFRP/Mordheim/Battles Campaigns in a post-end times world in which the End Times were averted. Steals some bits and pieces from Storm (like Valten/Archaon duel -- albeit without Grimgor's intervention).
>>43536302
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twrLuASPnEI
This looks fucking magnificent. Left4Skaven is fun as hell, Mordheim is in the works, and now this? AFTER the axed warhammer?
Whats their ploy?
Also: WHO WANTS STORY TIME?
>>43548734
>mordheim game
>total warhammer
>man o'war
>left4warhammer
>more bloodbowl>mother fucking gothic RTS
they like teasing veteran players, that's what
>>43548734
GW can't into market research. Now I really want an open world RPG Warhammer game.
Also, yes on the story time.
Lords:
High Enchantress Level 4 [In Sisters of the Thorn]: 225 pts (385pts)
Acorn of the World Tree (50)
Dispel Scroll (35)
Talisman of Lesser Shielding (5)
Screaming Swords (10)
Unicorn (60)
Heros:
Forest Captain [In Eternal Guard]: 70pts (176)
BSB (25)
Banner of the Living Forest (50)
Kindred of the Forest Guardians (20)
Shield (3)
Innate Defense (+6) (3)
Forest Captain [In Wawatchers]: 70pts (145 or 150)
Pathfinder Kindred (35)
Hail Shot (30) or Sunstone (35)
Fey Bow with Fey Arrows (7)
Innate Defense (+6) (3)
Forest Captain [In Wardancers]: 70pts (133 or 138)
Blade Dancer Kindred (30)
Mirror Spear (30) or Sunstone (35)
Innate Defense (+6) (3)
Core:
28 Eternal Guard with Shield and Innate Defense (+6): 336 pts (371)
Champion (10)
Musician (10)
Standard Bearer [Banner of Courage] (15)
2 X 8 Glade Riders with Light Armor and Fey Bows: 200 (260)
Champion (10)
Musician (10)
Standard Bearer (10)
Uncommon:
10 Wardancers: 140 (185)
Champion (10)
Musician (10)
Standard Bearer [Banner of Speed] (25)
[Can switch a unit of Glade Riders for two fully upgraded eagles and still meet core.]
Rare:
8 Sisters of the Thorn: 160 (230)
Champion (10)
Musician (10)
Standard Bearer [Warden’s Standard] (50)
5 Pathfinders: 100 (110)
Champion (10)
Someone who has been looking into getting into the hobby of late. I think I am going with a mixture of WE and Empire. Decided to go with 9th to make this army list in particular, and god, the WE army list doesn't suck at all when compared to the armybook. Just posting for discussion sake, plus any advice.The Unicorn in the Sisters of the Thorn is even almost the equivalent of the Banner of Elf Bullshit.
>>43548798
Fucking cockbags.
>>43548818
Continuing from last night.
Tales from the Ten-Tailed Cat
"The Assasin's Tale" 1/5
>>43548798
>spoiler
Wait, which one is that?
And goddam am I so glad they started handing the license to fucking everyone.
Playing Mordheim right now. All I need now is undeadas dlcand a Kill Team vidya with SoB in it and I will happy.
>>43549066
Battlefleet Gothic.
>>43549016
"The Assasin's Tale" 2/5
>>43545765
I don't own it but that's my first purchase this Steam winter sale.
>>43547132
Pretty sure the point of Endhammer is that anyone can contribute
>>43548734
>>43548798
>>43548818
PRO TIP: Developers come to GW, not the other way around.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/256220/QA_Why_Games_Workshop_is_shaking_up_how_it_works_with_licensees.php
>>43549276
I know, but it's STILL a fucking tease. I'm glad they're at least making these games finally.
>>43548967
What do you mean by a mixture of WE and Empire?
>>43549239
Exactly. It's meant to be for /tg/
So new to Fantasy and the like. Got a Lizardmen battalion box with a Skink Priest and Saurus Oldblood. What else would be recommended to flesh out the army?
>>43549383
I meant I was trying to get into both WE and Empire, not that I was combining their list or anything.
Warhammer Roleplay question:
Should I give all of my players Perception for free at character creation?
>>43549631
No. Some careers start with Perception, so that would be giving some of them a +10% right off the bat. The only thing I would consider giving them is Read/Write, but only if it's your first time GM'ing WFRP. If no one in the party can read or write, it can get really annoying really fast. If you and your players are even a little seasoned, I wouldn't give them any skills or talents unless they can give a convincing trade off, which my group calls 'Traits'.
>>43549631
Do what you feel is best. WHFB is designed to be rough, and some people like it that way, and some people don't. If you think that it is fair for your group, go ahead with it.
>>43550018
*RPG
Is it just me, or is the magic system in the roleplaying system blatantly bullshit, especially in consideration that in the wargame magic is far more stable [1/36 chance with two die miscasting, while with 2d10 it is 1/10th]? Even then if you fail to cast spell, you don't suffer a wound (the equivalent to an insanity point) if you roll all ones. Hell, even if you roll all ones, there is still the chance you actually succeed in casting it, depending on your wizard level and the casting value.
>>43549096
Did you have a heart attack?
>>43550455
Wounds aren't equivalent to Insanity Points. You can also be subject to Tzeentch's Curse when you roll multiples of any number, not just one. The miscast results can be really deadly to you and even to the entire party.
>>43545612
I remember reading those when WAR was coming out
RIP that game
>>43550513
Great job to completely ignore what I said.
I meant on the tabletop it is the "equivalent", since you will definitely take wound in the RPG before you will have an IP.
>You can also be subject to Tzeentch's Curse when you roll multiples of any number, not just one
I said 1/10th, not 1/100th, with the chance of you getting a miscast increasing as you add more die. Like I said before, this isn't even remotely equivalent to the danger of miscasting in the tabletop, which shows that when people says "It's representative of the lore!" they have not a fucking clue what they are talking about.
>>43549631
Yes. It is literally a skill that pretty much any other RPG would take for granted that fucking character have, with any skill related to "perception" be based off of an actual stat, or a bonus to said roll.
>>43550963
See, this is what I was thinking. However, >>43549759 has a solid point (though you could just as easily houserule that you don't get the +10% from the free Perception) since some careers are designed to have it. But Perception also is a default stat in all of the subsequent FFG games...
If I give my players Perception, does that invalidate Search and Evaluate? I'm especially not clear on the difference between the first and second skill.
>>43550606
WAR's private server is linked in the OP. It's pretty good.
Still can't believe Turkish hackers deleted all the Secret Lives of Mobs comics though. That sucked.
>mfw there are unrepentant high elf players on this board right now
>>43551388
As someone who is in a DA campaign, this is an easy question. Search is specifically looking for something. As in you know, there is a switch for the secret door around the room, and you need to look for it. However, perception is for SEEING the groove switch on the wall to your right. Evaluating is for determine how much said switch costs to build.
Another example is that you are searching the woods for a deer to hunt. Once you find a deer, you use perception to see how many points the deer has on its rack. When you hunt the deer, you use evaluation to determine how much its coat costs.
The thing is, I don't see anywhere where it says there is a 10% bonus.
>>43551684
In factTHEY ARE IN THIS VERY THREAD.
>>43551741
The 10% comes from careers that already have Perception getting it again. Every time you take a skill again you get a 10% boost.
Also, DA?
>>43551975
Dragon Age.
>>43537366
I've only got two maps that have any kind of detail on the Southlands, and neither are large.
You could always Google search these images and see if you can find larger versions though
>>43550513
No, Cox living up to their name with some random line outage.
>>43551476
>Turkish hackers deleted all the Secret Lives of Mobs comics
I thought GW shut them down?
"The Assasin's Tale" 3/5
>>43555162
"The Assasin's Tale" 4/5
>>43555229
"The Assasin's Tale" 5/5
>>43555162
Nope, some Turkish nationalists hacked the site, deleted the archive, and replaced the front page with a red .
>>43555708
red crescent*
>>go in gw store
>>see table of AoS
>>Ask the guy working there
>>is anyone actually buying this shit?
>>enjoy reaction
had a blast in Versailles, France a couple of days ago
>>43555787
what was the reaction? does anyone buy?
(i know the answer, I just wanna be sure)
>>43555708
fucking muslims
>>43555795
he tried to defend it, said there was a lot of people playing.
I think the peak of the conversation was when he asked me...(and i quote in exact words :)
"Why would you want a balanced game? If someone wants a balanced game they should play chess"
>>43555708
truly, hacking a geek webcomic has undeniably demonstrated the superiority of their nation
>>43555826
I actually understand his thought, although the way he phrased it was indeed dumb
>>43555795
there was a lot of retarded things being said.
I quote for your amusement.
"In ze olde game, you had to take one hour to make a list, and one hour to set the army on the table and then you could play. Now you can just play"
I don't think that anyone, anyone defending AoS online could be anything other than a GW employee.
>>43555817
>kemalism
>muslims
Also, is there here anyone who using ragging heroes models?
>>43551741
>In fact
Oh shit! hide the children!
Anyone got any good links to Mordheim Terrain how-to and other such instructionals?
>>43555933
Still, what was his answer to your question about numbers of AoS players?
>>43555708
For what purpose?
>>43555976
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B18J5DU-6cP_Tk1DZnZNb3RMWFU&usp=drive_web&ddrp=1&tid=0B18J5DU-6cP_aEg2dHIxbGpaMlk
>>43555980
>>43555826
He said there was a lot of people playing. Based on his answers, suspicions have formed in my mind that he might be exagerating. Slightly.
>>43555976
It's 40k, but the general idea is the same.
I'm pretty sure there's more similar stuff in the pastebins somewhere.
>>43555708
...WHY?
>>43556125
I don't recall what the posted reason was, and the website today only says that they were hacked "yesterday" and will be back up shortly. Presumably the site just didn't have good security and made an easy target?
>>43555787
Ah, that's the one I get my stuff from. The guys there are actually pretty cool, I never tried to ask them about AoS though. I'll touch the subject next time I'm around.
>>43549410
I'd probably invest as soon as possible in a stegadon. These guys are a no-brainer and the kit is great. The I'd tell you to get more skinks and then a slaan with a few more TG to bunker him.
>>43549410
>Lizardmen
LASER LIZARD
>>43556744
Laser lizard?
>>43556880
He's probably talking about the bastiladon with solar engine?
>>43556896
Yea
Did lizardmen still have that 'magic item' that was basically a laser gun in 8th?
>>43557000
Literally two posts above you
>>43557158
nah he's talking about one of the other ones
I think it was called a sun staff or some shit? Kind of like kroq'gar's laser gauntlet but a staff instead.
>>43557194
Oh yeah, that's still around
