As voted for in: >>37057792
The times of greatness among your people have come and gone, forced to wallow in fecundity and rubbish beneath the foundations of the very city that ,generations ago, they called home. The stone walls that offer shelter to your kind is coated in filth, the waters that your family drinks of is murky and sickening. The tunnels you pass through are void of light, lit only by the occasional discarded torch that your people can scrounge from the heaps of refuse. Here and there large rodents skitter, thriving in the rot and sluice that surrounds you, providing the only true nutrition that any of your kind can survive from in such a rank and unforgiving environment.
Though, not all is hopeless and dreary, for your people yet survive, nay, they sprawl in such an environment! Whether it is some gift from a deity of filth that lets your people wallow in the sewers without incident, or merely the grit and determination that had your ancestors build the great city above you, it is unclear.
>Some greater gift to your people has allowed you to survive in the fecund muck where others would sicken and die. What is this gift?roll 1d100 and post with the roll what you vote for the "+Versatility" trait to be.
Rolled 60 (1d100)
>>37060231
Religion light magic
Rolled 2 (1d100)
>>37060231
Citizens Militia: Our entire adult population has basic military training and cheap weaponry (relative to tech level) automatically.
>>37060231
Psychic communication
(Not sure what The GM considers op/ridiculous)
>>37060290
Well, fuck.
I guess we're catholic now. Child molestation and cover-ups to preserve our image ho!
Are we rolling for versatility or a trait that helps us survive or what. Whoever rolls highest gets their pick?
Keeping trip because typing trips on mobile device for quest sucks, captcha whining is misplaced, spellcheck is bane of my existence
>>37060304
You have to roll there friend. 1d100. Psychic powers might be just a little OP.
>>37060304
Okay, apparently you can't roll on mobile. Welp, looks like I'm sitting this one out
>>37060315
Rolling for versatility, but this is a hardmode environment, so it'd probably be a good idea to pick something that'll help you survive in a sewer.Like holy magic ;D
>>37060315
I think versatility was just fluffed as the trait that helps us survive, with the highest rolling poster getting his pick.
>>37060330
No you can, just type in the option field, make sure autocorrect doesn't make dice+1d100 into Dice+1d100
>>37060330
Mind if I roll for you? It's never fun to have to sit out.
>>37060336
When I first read that I saw prick instead of pick
>>37060274
This.
To expand we worship a deity, or just the light as a concept, and learn light magic from it.
OP picks the name/concept.
Rolled 50 (1d100)
>>37060337
Ah, it did, thanks
I meant like weak signals such as 'come,' 'fight' etc rather than complex commands. Would also help in a phalanx, roman guy
>>37060364
Ahaha, not that it mattered anyway. Praise the sun!
Rolled 5 (1d100)
>>37060360
What I get for not reading the entire post.
>>37060379
Still worth a try, it came closer than fhe other attempts, well really one attempt
>>37060379
Praise it!
>>37060274
>>37060379
Voting Period ends.
Now Writing.
Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>37060433
Rolling for research: lightning weapon enchant
There's definitely novelty for a people praising the sun god and yearning for its sweet warm rays to wash their faces, according to the stories of their ancestors anyway. Its holy light magic keeps them from succumbing to the diseases of the sewers until they're reunited.
>>37060468
YES
>>37060468
Electrocuting sewer rats FTW!
By the way, don't leave us OP, like the other OPs, well always love you, in the least awkward way possible.
Looks like we Light Religion now.
To avoid going all Christian White Dude with a Longsword like literally every single stereotypical fantasy human kingdom, let's make it shamanistic with a touch of Eastern philosophy:
Light and Dark are two sides of the same coin, the tapestry of our world. Neither good nor evil, for light burns both monsters and men, and shadows conceal the faithful from their foes and shelter the predator that stalks them.
The light of Fire represents the hearts and will of men made manifest in this world, the determination to impose the change they wish upon the Earth. It is industry, civilization, and the Spirit of Man itself. Distant and separate from the light of Sun and Moon, it is outcast but kin, the Adopted Spark that will see Men through the darkest storms when all other Light abandons them.
The sun is the burning fury of the righteous. It is the baleful eye that scorches the world and brings life, that burns and caresses. It is the Light that fuels the garden and forest, and burns abomination at its touch. It is the destruction of the monstrous and the profane, the patron force of the Inquisitor and the Priest. The Burning Sun judges harshly and rewards fairly, and lives within the hearts of all Men who seek to uproot that which is evil wherever it may hide.
The Light of the Moon is the twin of the Sun, it is the light that exists side by side with darkness in harmony and balance. It is the mystery of the woods and the magic of the dark lake beneath a summer sky. It is the guiding Light of occultists, witches, and spirit-talkers. It is the soft light that caresses but does not harm, the subtle power that can only be drawn from a silvered mirror and still water by those who have immersed themselves in the ancient ways. It is sorcery, it is tolerance, and it is the benign and respected unknown of the holy shrine and spirit-haunted forest.
The Light of the Stars is the strangest and most distant, unknown and perhaps unknowable...
>>37060513
After I just rolled a 100 for sunlight blade?!?
>>37060543
To be fair you were 3 minutes late, and light still had a weak majority.
Have we been living solely underground our whole lives, or with brief forays to the surface?
>>37060513
So, how do we play in this civ? Vote for ideas and actions or is it all one thing. Do we get only one or two or is it based off of population, how do dice work?
You rolled for lightning weapon enchant, it could be a lightnigh spear. It could be a weapon we make though. Rather than our sole perk, probably have to change it to fire spear or somrthing
In the darkness that looms about the ramshackle hovels of your people, a bright and gleaming light has always shown the way, always cared for and strengthened your people. Her name was Desmara, the goddess queen of life and protector of all that is good in the world. Under her benevolent warmth your people have thrived in her name, worshiping her shrine and basking in the hope that was her message, even when all else would seem dark and hopeless. One man among your kind examplifies her grace and light, healing the sick among your people and promising for the warm rays of the sun above to, once again, wash over them with warmth and happiness.
>Start with a Sage [Holy Light] who can teach pupils.
You don't remember anything of how your people came to be in this place. You only know of the stories, that 'they' came and slaughtered your kind en masse, driving your people into the cities dark reaches to fester and rot. You've seen them yourself, like foul parodies of humanity, they are not quite dead, but not quite alive, shambling and rasping men that wander aimlessly, or live in squandered oppertunity by treating the once proud city above just as dirtily as the sewers below. Just to look upon them is to know the darkness of despair in your heart, and the angry fire in your belly tells you that one day these horrid corpses will burn, just as they had your ancestors do so long ago.
You know it in your soul that you will lead your people upwards, back into the city, whether by grit determination or through the will of Desmara herself. You've seen the sunlight, you've known the wondrous smell of fresh air in the streets above, a glorious pleasure that you long for your people to know.
Humanity will rise again, and you will make it happen.
>What is your name?roll 1d100 and vote for your name.
>>37060557
No, >>37060364 was me, that was just a joke, but it worked SO WELL
Rolled 25 (1d100)
>>37060579
The Sunset City
>>37060579
Festus
Rolled 35 (1d100)
>>37060579
AKECHETA
Sioux for "Fighter."
>>37060597
Ah ... Crap, I guess I used up all my luck on sun religion
>>37060599
Roll dude roll
Rolled 63 (1d100)
>>37060579
Sally Whitemane, female
Rolled 64 (1d100)
>>37060579
Coarse the Salty
>>37060621
>>37060622
We're rolling for names of the whole place, unless we have a hero unit.
>>37060579
So, we provide basic concepts and you fluff it up? Damn, and I got all attached to my Fire/Moon/Sun shamanism thing too.
Rolled 17 (1d100)
>>37060599
Rolled 60 (1d100)
>>37060579solaire [spoiler/]
Heron, light in the darkness
>>37060635
> Vote for your name
>YOUR NAME
>>37060635
Nigga can you even into context?
>>37060653
I did, it was sunset silly
>>37060658
Are quotes enough context for you? They seem to be for everyone else.
>>37060579
Howard Roark
Rolled 100 (1d100)
>>37060676
Forgot dice.
>>37060690
Wham bam
>>37060671
>Quest master comes and tries to explain it again
>Still misses it
Go to sleep anon, you're tired.
>>37060690
>Joke votes will be ignored
>2 100 rolls in one thread
WHAT'S HAPPENING
what are the chances christ
>>37060676
Did you just finish the book or something?
>>37060705
I get it now, sleepy me. It's a name of a singular person, well no poin now that Howard Roark won.
>>37060676
Well, Salty Coarse wasn't that good of a name anyway. You could almost say that Roark is [spoiler/]Objectively Superior.
>Howard Roark
>Fantasy names
I'm entering a panic attack
I'm hyperventilating
Rolled 92 (1d100)
>>37060721
Okay then,
Solaire Magos
>>37060721
Who said I was joking?
It's a perfectly acceptable name, no matter what trashy goddamn book it came from. It's not like I submitted Edward Cullen or something.
244 posts left in the thread
Voting Period has ended.
Unless everyone is like "FUCK YEA, HOWARD ROARK" while I'm writing, we're going with Solaire Magos.
>>37060780
Ha Ha!
>>37060780
You roll it in the options field fight above the comment right below the name
Also, too late
>>37060778
>>37060780
Voting has ended but for rolling when you are replying, insert dice+(number of dice)d(number of dice faces) , i.e dice+1d100, into the options bar.
>>37060738
That would have been excellent if you'd pulled it off correctly.But you didn't.
>>37060804
Umm, have quotes ceased to work?
>>37060778
It means sun Mage in French, at least according to google translate.
>>37060811
No, previous guy deleted his post. Unless you are referring to my lack of quotation marks which is just my bad.
>>37060827
Oh, I use an ipad to browse, why? Who knows. And it doesn't refresh real well. I didn't see he had deleted his post. I hope we haven't totally alienated him from tg, s'not that bad here
did solaire actually just get through?
>>37060858
Yes
>>37060468
>>37060858
I like this thread. This is a nice thread.
Your name is Solaire Magos, you are a proud example of your race, and your people look to you for guidance. How you came to be in a position of leadership, only you can recall. Will you lead your people out of fecundity and into the light? Will you take back the city and bring greatness to your kind?
Will you build a civilization that stands the test of time?
>Population: uncounted, estimates range from 45 to 80
>Culture and Art: little in ways of celebrations, most choosing decorations that reflect Desmara, for without her they lack hope.
>The People: Your people are primarily scavengers, most of them are pale from lack of sunlight, with some ethnicities of darker pallid colours like faded purples. They range in adult height from 4.5 ft to 6 ft varying from person to person.
>Technology: Little more than wood or iron tools scrounged together from the surface refuse.
>Magic: Only one magic user, skilled in the use of Holy Light; healing, blessing, and smiting magic.
>Food: No cultivated food whatsoever, your people survive from scrounging barest scraps and catching live rats.
Your people live in a ramshackle village that lines the walls of the sewer's center, from here they can explore the winding tunnels around, or make risky forays to the surface.
You have two actions remaining.
>What do you do first?roll 1d100 and vote for an action.
>>37060889
I hope OP doesn't abandon us after a few threads, like necro civ quest, fallen paladin quest, and countless others.
By the way, if any QMs are here, what's the best strategy for making a good thread flocking opening post?
Rolled 18, 41 = 59 (2d100)
>>37060899
Teach someone else magic
Set up a rat farm
Rolled 79 (1d100)
>>37060899
We should attempt a more stable and secure form of food for our people. Either we cultivate fungus or we capture rats for animal husbandry.
>>37060899
Search for viable fungus that we can use for a mushroom farm.
Rolled 4 (1d100)
>>37060935
>>37060942
Don't worry >>37060933
Has you covered
Rolled 80 (1d100)
>>37060899
Spark the Light of Fire within the hearts of men. For while we are cut off from the Sun and Moon, the Fire within our souls casts a glow that will guide us through even these dark times.
>Research Fire Magic
Rolled 37 (1d100)
>>37060933
I'm good with this, for the future, can we second posts with another roll?
>>37060968
It's under the rules so why not. Two highest rolls.
>>37060968
That sort of defeats the purpose of rolling in the first place. We might as well just vote directly.
>>37060965
>>37060933
Fire and food. I can dig it.
>>37060981
Then we should namefag so we don't keep trying over and over again. We'd have to wait until 8 tries before it got suspicios, 8IPs on thread
>>37060983
He means if our roll sucks and someon with a better roll agrees
Rolled 78 (1d100)
>>37060987
Voting Period Ends
>>37061016
You should probably get a trip
>>37060965
You ignite the flame within your people's hearts, giving grandiose speeches of how the wretched creatures above nary deserve the embrace of the sun's warmth, and that we must take it back from them with the power of bright flames abound.
>How many people do you organize to begin researching Fire Magic? (10 research points per person, normally 15 but -5 from racial traits.)Roll as you know. This time voting session is 5 minutes instead because smaller option.
Rolled 48 (1d100)
>>37061044
Five people, what do research points do?
Rolled 19 (1d100)
>>37061044
8 people.
>>37061060
I guess something like Firebolt (200 research points required) Fireball (Requires Firebolt + 400 research points) something like that. Unlock spells.
Rolled 72 (1d100)
>>37061044
45 people
>>37061076
Then no one is left for food
>>37061076
You're going to explode the fucking sewers
If we don't starve to death first
I'm sorry, but sun worship led by a man named solaire, and now pyromancers in the sewers. Is everyone here a dark souls fan, or am I having withdrawals from my laptop dying? Also, namefagging?
>>37061098
Sure why not
Voting period ends
>>37061098
>Never played a video game in my life except for Mario things.
>This sentence still makes sense.
>>37061076
You have a majority of your people devote themselves to unlocking the mysteries of inner fire (450 Research points per turn)
2200 Research total required to unlock Pyromancy.
You have one action remaining this turn.
>What do?Roll as normal; 10 minute session.
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>37061124
>Not just taking the two highest rolls to save time
cultivate fungus
Rolled 14 (1d100)
>>37061124
Have the rest gather food so we don't starve.
Rolled 32 (1d100)
>>37061131
This
Rolled 46 (1d100)
>>37061131
Please look at all the options and adress all of them at once.
I roll for this as well
Voting period ends.
>>37061131
You're absolutely right and I will do that now.
>>37061203
Can also say in advance how many people you want to do what in the same vote
Sewers are gross.
They smell like poo gas.
>>37061225
Dude, get out if you want to bash this thread
>>37061225
All the more motivation to smite the undead abominations above and get into the glorious sunlight
>>37061237
Praise the Sun!
>>37061225
it's not exactly like we're down here by choice. This is just the prelude to murdering the shit out of the undead and rising from the inferno, holding aloft our cobbled-together halberds and praising the Fire Within and Moon and Sun Above, in the name of the Lady that brought the Sun and Moon to Man.
>>37061237
Their time will come
>>37061131
Your remaining people are encouraged to search out a new source of nutrition, for rotting refuse and diseased rats make poor fuel for an uprising.
They search high and low, and many return with a common green lichen that oozes with moisture. They begin clearing spaces for cultivating this filling flora.
>End of Turn
>Population: uncounted, estimates range from 25 to 80
>Culture and Art: little in ways of celebrations, most choosing decorations that reflect Desmara, for without her they lack hope.
>The People: Your people are primarily scavengers, most of them are pale from lack of sunlight, with some ethnicities of darker pallid colours like faded purples. They range in adult height from 4.5 ft to 6 ft varying from person to person.
>Technology: Little more than wood or iron tools scrounged together from the surface refuse.
>Magic: Only one magic user, skilled in the use of Holy Light; healing, blessing, and smiting magic.
>Food: Your people are in the beginnings of cultivating a verdant lichen, but otherwise, your people survive from scrounging barest scraps, scraping wild lichen, and catching live rats.
>Research Progress: 450/2200
You have two actions remaining.Vote now, or forever be cast to damnation. the two highest non-duplicate votes will be the actions taken. 10 minute session.
>>37061267
nigger what is that ret pally doing, dont go dragging sulfuras around like that, the boe still goes for like 20k on the AH
Rolled 57 (1d100)
>>37061268
Scavenge for materials we could use to prepare this food to make it more nutritious.
Rolled 47 (1d100)
>>37061259
What a glorious philosophy.
>>37061268
We require more food, yo. I say we use our light magic and help make sure the earth is pure and ready to grow food plentiful.
>>37061267
Dunno why, but I couldn't help reading that in the vicious raspy voice befitting a flame throwing vehicle in a C&C game.
Rolled 90 (1d100)
>>37061268
Try herding rats to keep as livestock
Rolled 88 (1d100)
>>37061268
Capture rats as well for we need meat as well. We can use the fungus to feed the rats as well as us, and then eat the rats when they've grown and birthed more rats. Meat and vegetables nunmuunmnunmnm
Rolled 23 (1d100)
>>37061268
Cultivate the Fire within the hearts of all Men even as we seek to unlock the powers of Pyromancy, and give Men new hope. For while we have been cast down from the light of Desmara, the Lady of Sun and Moon, we are not wholly cut off from the Light. For there is Light that is not that of the silent Moons reflection upon a still lake, or the warmth of a summers day. There is the Fire of industry, of Determination, of Revenge.
For even if Desmara forsakes us completely, and she will not, there will always remain One Last Light.
Us.
>Spread hope for the future, determination to overcome adversity, and INDUSTRY by integrating the Fire of Will into our Light Religion.
Rolled 23 (1d100)
>>37061281
Sounds good. Live first, then kill things
>>37061291
This is good. With a neat roll as well.
>>37061305
The rat idea is neat, so that's probably gonna go through.
>>37061301
Oh well. I guess it's for the best that we focus on not starving first.
It would also be more dramatic to roll out this Action at the same time that we finish Pyromancy.
>>37061315
Agreed. You can go for it.
Voting ends
>>37061337
Partying begins.
>Roll for incandescence
>>37061290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvktfx87DiM
Rolled 95 (1d100)
>>37061352
>>37061378
...
Please OP, can we put on a lightshow?
>>37061291
Your people herd scores of rats together into pens to begin breeding them into a food source.
>>37061279
your people scrounge together what haphazard tools they can muster from the refuse piles. While the occasional broken shovel or shepherd's hook can be found, most of what they bring together is more like unto a cobbled heap of a tool, only mildly serviceable.
The turn ends
>Population: uncounted, estimates range from 30 to 85
>Culture and Art: little in ways of celebrations, most choosing decorations that reflect Desmara, for without her they lack hope.
>The People: Your people are primarily scavengers, most of them are pale from lack of sunlight, with some ethnicities of darker pallid colours like faded purples. They range in adult height from 4.5 ft to 6 ft varying from person to person.
>Technology: Little more than wood or iron tools scrounged together from the surface refuse.
>Magic: Only one magic user, skilled in the use of Holy Light; healing, blessing, and smiting magic.
>Food: Your people are in the beginnings of cultivating a verdant lichen and breeding live rats, but otherwise, your people survive from scrounging barest scraps, scraping wild lichen, and catching wild rats.
Researching: Pyromancy: 900/2200
You have two actions remaining this turn.
>What dooo?roll 1d100 for votes
>>37061383
When we are invading the surface we shall put on the greatest light show ever to conquer those foul beings.
Rolled 97 (1d100)
>>37061391
Build a small altar to our god to prepare for the completion of our new magic.
>>37061391
>Continue to ensure that we eat a balanced and nutritional breakfast everyday, for all days after this.
Rolled 84 (1d100)
>>37061391
Scout and map our area, entrances and exits.
Rolled 58 (1d100)
>>37061391
Erect crude smithies, so that we can convert scrap metal and junk into simple tools.
well the current top 2 are agreeable, but we should look at >>37061409 soon
>>37061417
Pretty much this.
Rolled 31 (1d100)
>>37061409
Erect crude smithies, or do anything related to metal, at the very least a scrap heap and a fire.
>>37061409
I'll go for it next turn
We need to reproduce boys. Our population is too small to sustain a civilization.
Voting ends
>>37061409
Is there enough ventilation for smiths to work without further damaging our health?
>>37061466
We'll have to find a vertical shaft. Preferably several, so we can rotate them to decrease the chance of the Undead tracking us down by following the fumes.
>>37061402
>>37061408
You erect an altar to Desmara, placing around it icons of light and fire, that your people might properly pray for her blessings.
Additionally, those few that aren't hard at work are sent out with flat bricks and sharpened iron to scrape out maps of the tunnels that make up your people's home.
(I'm not making a map, I'm not a drawfag, if you want a visual representation you can make it yoself.)
The turn ends
>Population: uncounted, estimates range from 50 to 85
>Culture and Art: little in ways of celebrations, most choosing decorations that reflect Desmara, for without her they lack hope. They perform regular worship at a shrine centering the village.
>The People: Your people are primarily scavengers, most of them are pale from lack of sunlight, with some ethnicities of darker pallid colours like faded purples. They range in adult height from 4.5 ft to 6 ft varying from person to person.
>Technology: Little more than wood or iron tools scrounged together from the surface refuse.
>Magic: Only one magic user, skilled in the use of Holy Light; healing, blessing, and smiting magic.
>Food: Your people are in the beginnings of cultivating a verdant lichen and breeding live rats, but otherwise, your people survive from scrounging barest scraps, scraping wild lichen, and catching live rats.
Researching: Pyromancy: 1350/2200
Two actions this turn.
>What do?roll 1d100 for the actionas.
Rolled 66 (1d100)
>>37061517
MAKE SOME BABIES
Rolled 52 (1d100)
>>37061517
Develop that Lichen until we can, if absolutely necessary, survive solely off of it for a while. The more people we have not scrounging for refuse and hunting rats, the more we can dedicate to war and Industry.
>Also, how exactly is the surface producing edible refuse enough for us to live off of if the surface is dominated by Undead? It would make sense if there was a living civilization squatting above us on the ruins of our city and tossing their trash down the drains, but dead people don't eat. Is there just an extremely hedonistic Necromancer class at the top of the social pyramid?
>>37061517
Build smithies, try to upgrade tools we scrounged or build new ones.
>>37061554
Perhaps the citizen class of the undead retains their daily livelihood of getting food, but then since they don't eat, they simply keep it around and then toss it away once it's rotten?
Rolled 56 (1d100)
>>37061569
Forgot my roll
>>37061517
>(I'm not making a map, I'm not a drawfag, if you want a visual representation you can make it yoself.)
Do you into hexographer?
Rolled 74 (1d100)
>>37061517
Improve our food production so we can sustain a larger population
>>37061517
>(I'm not making a map, I'm not a drawfag, if you want a visual representation you can make it yoself.)
Can also convey in words
Voting ends
>>37061584
I completely forgot about that and am a moron.
>>37061573
Ghouls eat, and there are bound to be some necromancers. Also, they need some sort of stock of things to make into undead.
Suddenly OP has to make an emergency run.
Sorry everybody, I'll pick this up tomorrow or as soon as I can.
>>37061650
OH GOD! Is everything okay? Did something catch on fire? Are you a firefighter?
>>37061650
OP, you left me hanging here.
>>37061657
I love your thought process.
Ending reminder that I will be slowly altering our Light religion to make it more awesome the only way I know how: By being a stubborn, wordy motherfucker.
Look at your Light religion, now back to me, now back to your Light religion, now back to me. Your Light religion is now Eastern Philosophy with its former Goddess as a Divine Teacher and the later edition of Fire nation-themed THERE ARE YET HEROES LEFT IN MAN. I'm occasionally on a horse.
>>37061690
Are you surprised? It's the way of civ threads to give us a glimpse of something nice and then force us to start over again and again.
>>37061706
>>37061706
Go away Mustafa you're too rich for escapism.
>>37061713
Ahahaha. Same as that necromancer civ quest?
Seriously, QM just left baits there.
>>37061713
Well, this OP did go out of his way to make a new Civ Chart, thing. I'm sure it really was an emergency.
At least when he comes back he must have the map ready
>>37061738
Hexographer though isn't that well for underground areas. I would have went with a shitty ms paint sketch and prepared an overworld map for after claiming the city, which is stage 3.
>>37061730
I've been hurt before from trusting.
>>37061754
Maybe we can make one for OP, a bribe to make them stay with us
>>37061814
Well, I was assuming that we are in a circular part of the sewers, or a large tunnel with various side tunnels that are embedded at the walls. Kinda like pic related.
>>37061725
What baits dost thou speaketh of?
>>37061876
Fixed. squares= shacks. The highlighted one is the altar.
>>37061905
You forgot the image
>>37062001
dammit
>>37063162
I dig.
Any thoughts for how people want the civ to go beyond the religion?
>>37063401
We should set up carts and trolleys, get a transportation system going.
Use our LIGHT and FIRE magic to keep things well lit and sterilized.
Get humans in heavy armor with one handed weapons for tunnel fighting.
ARBALESTS
>>37060823
Close enough. "Solar Mage" would be much closer. E.G. "Paneau Solaire" = "Solar Panel"
>>37063401
I've always liked technology, it'd be fun if we could go in that direction.
>>37063401
Holy flamethrowers to smite the foul undead with.
>>37064332
Bump, but that would still be religion.
>>37065004
Not because OUR religions don't go hand-in-hand with knowledge that one couldn't. And up to a point, Magic is Magic.
>>37065183
Umm, could you explain what you mean?
I'm still holding on to the dream.
OP had better link to the new thread in this if it's still standing.
>>37065660
Why not just look for the thread in the catalog
>>37065731
Not him, but it would be nice. We hung around here waiting for OP to return
We could section off different tunnels then use fire to purge the entire sector. We can expand that way, and retreat back that way during attacks, burning sectors as they fill with enemies.
>>37065933
Using what as fuel? And how are we going to keep that fire from sucking up all the oxygen we need to keep breathing?
>>37065223
Yes, of course: Christianity (which is the most popular religion in my region) was built around the concept of shame. We all did something in our past for which we should atone, for fear of rejection at the gates of paradise. We are, for the needs of the Catholic religion, sinner by nature, unless we repent, act obedient, and submit ourselves to the Jewish-Zombie, Jesus.
Therefore, doubt and innovation are dangers to the all-truth that points our sins, or at least is considered such no matter what the innovators could eventually claims (e.g. The ability to Evolve is a gift engineered by God)."What happens after death? Depends: when was the last time you ate the flesh of the Jewish-Zombie Cleric lvl 5?
A god whose main focus would be wisdom wouldn't even care about what it doesn't know and thus would be completely independant from technology:"What happens after you die? There's no way to find out, so better not worry about it.
A religion that would make sacred the ability to learn would consider God's work and God himself were hidden in the fabric of the universe, are the laws of physics that governs our lives. Learning, discovering and challenging our knowledge would be the holiest things to do.What happens after you die? I don't know, but if we can find a way to bring people back or to save them in extremis, we might catch a glimpse!
>>37066630
So I guess Christianity would have the domains of fertility and war. Produce, Reproduce, Kill your foes, and do not ask questions. Ever.
>>37066630
Well then Desmara better be the second type
>>37066936
They should all have their perks and flaws: Okay, Christianity prohibits technologies, but it supplies population and soldiers! Ain't that what we need?
>>37067130
>How about No
So, in other words, you want us to be the boring, ignorant, violent, racist, intolerant, medieval totally-not-Christain Human Empire featured as villains in Furry web serials? Fuck that. The Light shows us the way. And the way the Light shows us is filled with glorious weapons tech.
I'd much rather play a scholarly Republic than an infinitely expanding horde of Crusading assholes. We have enough of those in real life.
>>37068713
Well put, that's why you're the wordy motherfucker
Okay, I'm awake-OP NOOOOOOOOOOO
Bumping
>>37068713
Admittedly, Catholicism isn't all crusades, but I'd rather not be a crusading religion, except when it's a crusade against the undead, they deserve to be wiped away.
Stop bumping the damn thread so I can tell when OP made a new one, if at all. Thread deserves to die until OP posts but a new thread is still preferable.
>>37074235
Seriously stop your ad spamming in every civ quest
>>37060513
Nigger we're in the fucking sewers, no typical paladins can happen and why would we these things we're not in contact with in the way you described?
>>37061395
>taking over a city with 80 people
>>37075739
>Not taking over with 800 people
>>37075945
>implying even if that was enough we could breed fast enough
>>37076069
>Implying we can't over an indeterminate period of time which constitutes the gap between turns and the amount of turns until we decide to invade the city
>Implying it's not actually going to happen around a pop of 400 but reach 800 by the time we secure the entire city
>Implying it'll even happen since OP abandoned us
>>37076386
Even if we are able to use all of our able-bodied population, assuming this is 800, I don't realistically think we could just storm in and take the place, especially expecting to hold it.
And another civ quest died in the first thread
>>37076580
Well somebody can always pick it up. As if the QM's gonna care about it. Also the thread was archived.
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/37060231/
>>37076580
>>37076682
If Draknirv the Civlord is unable to return tomorrow, just let someone else run this quest.
>>37076735
>>37076682
Perhaps I will attempt it, I have been meaning to work on my writing.
>>37076785
Yes, please do.
still active?
>>37076785
Apparently not.
OP, if you're going to abandon this thread, at least post your mechanics, like how your research point system works, so that I can start up a new one. I'm re-starting the Rogue Trader game I run for my family and bashing my head against the Governors Quest mechanics, but I'll make the time.
>>37083010
It's based on bullshit and rule of cool. If you picked 5 men to research magic it would have been 250 points. If you picked 45 fucking people it would have been 2,300 points.
>>37068713
>So, in other words, you want us to be the boring, ignorant, violent, racist, intolerant, medieval totally-not-Christain Human Empire featured as villains in Furry web serials?
First: I don't mind being the villain of a furry / the furry. I mean, I generally dislike them, but I tolerate them. Actually running a Civ game for my friends via E-Mails and monitor these threads for ideas, and one of my friends chose a "furry" fox-people. And as long as he does not make furry porn out of it and rub it in my face, I don't care.
But this is more like a "Purge the mutant, the Xeno and the Heretic" sort of thing. I guess it is kinda the same. [Insert generic taunt about you favoring/noticing one over the other, followed by a smiley to keep the tension low :) ]
Two, hell yea! When you've got an enemy so powerful and your very race is being pushed to extinction, you don't want your population to go around questioning themselves! You want them to be like the common imperial citizen.
"In the battle for survival, there's no such thing as an innocent bystander."
But then again, not about what I want, but about what we need. Everybody, feel free to suggest something and/or criticize others' suggestion, as long as you are too open to criticism!
>>37083010
Hey, ML, if your willing to take this over and improv us something, go ahead. The best creations survive their creators.
>>37084139
> if your willing to
You're. FML!
>>37084139
Second reread:
> I'm not racist. I've even got a friend who's black! As long as he doesn't force watermelon down my throat and/or impregnate my daughter before disappearing, not that I want to discriminate their culture and such, as long as they're happy in their fatherless culture...
So let me rephrase that: I am generally uncomfortable with people that express interest, sexual or not, for Furry, Ponies, Futas and other dickgirls, lolis, vores, diapers and other fucked up shit like that but will not antagonize them unless they're rubbing it in my face even AFTER I told them their behavior is making me uncomfortable.
But when I do, I do not hold back or feel any form of regret.
>>37084139
The point I'm trying to get across is that the "Evil Catholic Nazi Knight" human kingdom is incredibly overdone. I've never actually read any furry web serials, but in every weird "Oh look at these beautiful Blue Alien Cats/Elves/Furries/Mitosis-reproducing Lesbians oh no here come the Teutonic human oppressors" story, be it the infuriated account of a survivor of a THAT DM or a hilariously bad webcomic posted on the "Chans, the humans are always the EXACT. SAME.
>Medieval "Knightly" aesthetic
>All-powerful Church that labels the Mutant, Xeno and Heretic "Abominations"
>"Oh look at my dark and edgy morraly grey (No, you're the fucking villains you idiot) Inquisitors!"
>BURN THE WITCH, BECAUSE ALL THE MAGIC USERS WE DON'T OWN ARE EVIL
Maybe it's different for you, but to me, that's fucking boring and overplayed. So, so boring. You can't wander ten feet without tripping over yet another carbon copy of the same Crusader-Era feudal assholes oppressing otherkin pixies or some shit, and even though they're written from opposite viewpoints (Filthy Xenos being cleansed by righteous humanity, fuck year/Evil bigoted cis humanscum oppressing strong beautiful transgendered Awakened Mimics) they are always EXACTLY THE SAME.
This is why I stopped being able to enjoy 40K for a long time: The Imperium is fun as a ridiculous 80s cliche ball wearing mirror shades, but as a serious grim setting of dark grimness and darkness it falls flat on its face.
Even now I can only get interested in the "Non-Standard" bits. Divergent near-heretic Chapters on the edge of the Imperium? Cool. Rogue Traders? Cooler. Death World regiments fighting a desperate guerrilla war against a Snakebitez mob? Right on. Roleplay thread about a legion of Guardsmen rolling over the planet of Yiffnet IV with fire and chainsword? You'd better have a cocaine platter if you want me awake at the table.
>CONT
>>37084584
On to your second point: No, no you don't. You know what happens when no one questions anything? When someone in authority fucks up or becomes corrupt, it NEVER GOES AWAY. The fuckup spirals beyond all control, as bureaucracy grows and the authority becomes tyrants that wind up pushing their own people into the open arms of their most insidious enemies through their overbearing stupidity. Sound familiar?
If the citizens of the Imperium questioned themselves and the Imperium, humanity would win. The 40K Imperium has the manpower, it has the resources, and it has the tech to achieve victory, but because of its culture of blind feudal obedience it is mired in the bureaucracy of its own demise, stuck in a pit of corruption, infighting, and useless red tape as the breakdown in logistics cripples its ability to expand and ultimately, its ability to survive.
40K humanity is surviving through reasonably adequate use of the ruins of a civilization that DID question themselves and everything, who were taken out by a bullshit random event that surpasses even the MoO2 Temporal Anomaly in its Dickishness. Question your government, and improve it. Question your way of life, and find something better. Question your religion, and uproot the disease that hides behind the cathedral. Question your way of war, and find new ways to drive your enemies before you. Question your weaponcraft, and see potential for engines of fiery destruction where none would have looked.
You say that having a questioning population is a weakness in a time of need, where I see our greatest and most needed strength. It is said that in times of great danger the "hard choice" must be made for everyone to shut up and follow the leader "for the greater good". This is wrong. That's the easy choice. Questioning everything is the hard road, and the road that will leave you the strongest and least likely to be a cadaver at the end of it.
Innovate. Adapt. Evolve. Overcome. Peace Superior Firepower.
>>37082251
I had to sleep man.
I am going to make a new game.
I decided I am going to select 5 races from the fuckhuge chart I like to streamline selection.
This will prevent me from dropping within in a thread or two because I am not having fun.
I will post a new thread within the hour
>>37084795
>5 races
Use this damn you!
>>37084754
>Peace through Superior Firepower.
Just to summarize my first half-awake post in a way that might actually be legible: Saying that we're the bad guys in a furry web serial doesn't actually have anything to do with "fursecution" or any of that nonesense. It's just that the Catholic Murder Knight and his loyal band of illiterate, blindly obedient peasant vigilantes is the most boring vanilla concept for a human civilization from my point of view. We'll be those guys from Drowtales who are the bad guys... Somehow. Because Drow Fuck Yeah. There will be nothing of substance to us beyond "BURN THE MONSTER" and "Look at my Inquisition, My Inquisitions Amazing. Give it a lick, its covered in EDGE."
>>37084806
What? No. That's quite a bit worse than the one OP used. Here:
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82856138/Civthread.jpg
>>37084809
Well, a self aware crusade against undead, not for stupid reasons but because the undead will eat us if we don't kill them, could be good.
Also, what's with the status of this thread, is OP coming back, is there a new thread?
>>37084832
No, that one is worse, it's so blurry I can't read anything but the names of the races,
>>37084806
That one is clear cut and legible.
>>37084832
>>37084887
Better but still blurry as hell
>>37084844
Of course. The undead need to die fiery, fiery deaths. I'm just wary of enforced serf obedience, because if our hyper-competent leader dies or our Civ grows beyond his ability to personally handle... Well, just look at 40K.
This Civ? unknown. OP put a ton of work into the upgraded chart above, so it wasn't a spur of the moment thing. He said he had to leave because of an emergency, and that he'd be back tomorrow or else "as soon as he could", so he's probably coming back. No guarantees though.
>>37084795 said he's making a new thread with a streamlined race selection, so there's that too.
>>37084887
>>37084906
Perfect
>>37084861
Something wrong with your monitor, friend. I can read it just fine, and my laptop isn't that great.
>>37084919
I have an ipad, don't judge me. It was legible, but still the letters blurred at the edges, I had to concentrate to see it and zoom in so it wasn't tiny blurry smears on a screen.
>>37084911
You can just enlarge the image bro they're all fine.
>>37084950
I did enlarge it,that's what allowed me to read it.
>>37084939
I just prefer the Dropbox hosted one because, despite it being XBOXHUEG, it's the best put together as far as mechanics go (No races are obviously overpowered or underpowered compared to others because OP used a point-buy system to try and make them even), more Hardmode locations, (I really wnat to try out that laboratory), and the much larger variety of races to choose from. Someone who can into images should probably try and cut that into three or so pieces so it can actually be posted here.
>>37085007
Well, I was thinking of doing a civ thread, but I'd probably make up my own chart and out it Ina homebrew setting just to experiment.
>>37085007
>OP used a point-buy system
He specifically said he didn't. And the last race (or just most bottom line) is broken as fuck.
>>37085033
Also the limit is 5,000x5,000 I believe. I tried for a minute before I stopped caring but it can fit in.
>>37085007
I can't read that one, whether I shrink the screen to minimize blur or expand it so I can carefully decipher all the letters, unreadable, except for the names.
>>37085033
Hold on, I'll go find the archived thread, but I could have sworn he said he tried to stick to a point system to prevent massive imbalance.
>>37085065
I specifically asked him about it. You read my post, but he said he didn't. Each individual race was given stats based on its fluff. If it's a broken race it gets broken stats.
>>37084795
>5 races
>>37085065
>>37085033
Whelp, nevermind. I have the dumb.
Yeah, those last two are fuck-ass broken. Goddamn bugs.
Can someone go through and make the text on the hugeass file legible? I can't read a thing aside from the names.
>>37085159
If you mean the dropbox one, it's only you. Everything is perfectly legible
>>37085178
You have any idea why that is, I've tried zooming out in case it was too zoomed in, still can't read. Maybe one of you could chop it up and put it on here? I think it might be a browser interface thing problem.
>>37085159
>>37085178
Same here. Everything looks fine to me, so I would have no idea where to start to fix it.
>>37085203
Problem solved, I downloaded if to my photo library instead of trying to view it through the sucky safari ipad app and now it is clear as day. Should've thought of that before.
>>37085092
>>37084806
>>37076785
Like I said.
>>37085207
>>37085225
Good luck on the new Civ, man.
