Ooga booga where da imperial women at? *goat noises*
I don't understand.
>>48273350
*bleat*
>>48273330
>implying beastmen only rape women
>implying the majority of their rape victims aren't captured soldiers
Come on anon, beastmen rape mostly to degrade and defile, not just for sexual pleasure. Just like in real life, but taken Up to 11. Even then the vast majority of the victims are killed and eaten right away because beastmen are actually pretty close to the bottom of the food chain in the woods and meat is more valued than sex slaves. When beastmen want to get it on, they do it with each other.
>>48273330
>not going with superior beastfolk
>>48273416
Garbage tier race that appeals to people with brains as small as lizards.
>>48273330
No matter how much you shittalk them, Beastmen will thematically be one of the most interesting and awesome concepts you'll find in modern fantasy. They are the brutal side of nature that all too often gets swiped under the rug because for some reason nature must always be pure and clean and cute and tame.
Yes, some of their recent lore takes it a bit far and the authors deserve a gud krumpin. However the concept has always balanced on a slippery slope and some stumbling is to be expected.
>>48273416
Yeah I wanna play guys inspired by Aztecs aka guys who got rekt by a small group of Spanish faggots.
>>48273485
Clearly not faggots as any place the Spanish set foot is filled with halfbreeds.
>>48273501
>the men are all faggots
>the women are cock hungry
>the only heterosexual males they've seen in years have a religious duty to sire as many children as possible
>>48273485
More appropriately, they get wrecked by small pox and several generations of buttfucking everyone around them. Cortez rolled up to the Aztec capital with like 70 spaniards, but potentially over a hundred thousand native auxiliaries who were champing at the bit to kill Aztec oppressors.
That said, don't talk shit about Lizardmen you goatheaded Chaoscuck. .
>>48273473
There just Broo, if it happened nowadays GW would be mocked for being such rip-offs.
>>48273330
>>48273415
>>48273473
Where exactly in the lore is it implied they are raping everything? Or is it just a /tg/ magical realm meme?
>>48274413
In the earlier, older, more metal editions of Warhammer Fantasy. Beastmen and their predecessors Fimnir or whatever raped, a lot.
>>48273473
I did always find Beastmen creepy as a kid
>>48273388
Блeaть!
>>48274459
As far as I am aware, the Fimnir were an independent rape people and unrelated to the beasts of chaos.
Also I wasn't aware of the Beastmen being such rapey cunts even in earlier editions. I pretty much just took them as murdery cunts who pillage and tear down architecture.
>>48275584
They're murdeious cunts, but they are also on the literal bottom of the chaos food chain.
Also the liber chaotica of slaanesh implies that beastmales get literally cucked by slaanesh cultists who knock up beastwomen.
>>48273330
You can have them when we're done with them.
>>48276902
Warriors of Chaos are mary sues of Chaos
>>48274459
For some reason the idea of animal-folk raping people with their beast dicks feels a touch more morbid than if they were human.
>>48274413
It's implied, not stated. They say things like "degrade, defile, kill in messy and humiliating ways" but they won't ever say it. Just as you know slaanesh worshipers rape but they aren't going to outright state that in their fluff. Hell, real life armies do it all the time but you usually won't find it outright stated in the history books. Even then, like I said, most of the time you'll get slaughtered and eaten. Most torture involves getting eaten alive. Rape and getting pissed and shit on is usually reserved for leaders, standar bearers and other persons they want to see degraded
>>48276902
Honestly if I didn't know better, I'd think this dude was from 40k, it there any reason for Chaos Warriors to look -so- similar in different worlds
>>48278645
>it there any reason for Chaos Warriors to look -so- similar in different worlds
yes, they sometimes cross over, some in old times chaos warriors could receive plasma pistols as daemonic gifts and ascended prince can decide to hang out in another setting for a while.
>>48274413
They were actually explicit about it in the earlier versions of the lore. It was stated that beastmen couldn't procreate on their own and required human women who they kept for raping, breeding, and food.
>>48278952
>It was stated that beastmen couldn't procreate on their own
You're thinking of fimir.
That might interest you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds1ZsQAISeM
>>48276902
>chaos warriors
>cooler than beasts
ur gay
>>48278952
Thats pretty much a straight up lie; Beastmen fucking hate humans with a passion, and are so stupid, they can't even build tents, let alone take slaves for the sole purpose of breeding. I mean, that would imply that beastmen are smart enough to:
A) Think about themselves for more than a minute
B) Realize that they need to replenish their numbers, and the need to target women
C) Not eat the slaves, or kill them for being Human Filth
D) Figure out a way to bring the slaves around with them as they roam around and murder, as well as feeding them, birthing the child, and than raising the ensuing retard baby.
And remember, these are the guys whose technological prowess ends at what shit they can steal, and whose gods actively ignore them. They make Orcs and Goblins look like Elves and Dwarves in comparison. You think these fuckers are smart enough to set up rape tents, and than raise the ensuing baby's?
Besides, its been shown that there indeed beastwomen via the G&F book series. They raise the dumb little shits, and mostly dont fight, sorta like actual animals in the wild.
>>48279257
its pretty explicitly stated that they raise gaves though?
>>48279314
If you mean, like raising children? Than yeah, as much as a cow or horse raises their children. Remember, there are fucking beastmen EVERYWHERE. Even in places like the Northpole, or where nobody lives. The beast way to look at Beastmen is that they're humans that have turned into beasts, with emphasis on beasts. Like a beast, they'll raise they're children, just like a wild animal raises its children. But at the same time, they'll fucking murder, rape, burn and raise anything that pisses them off, which is, guess what, humanity. I wont deny that they rape, they do when ever they can; but its pretty sensibel to say that raping only plays as much a factor in their population as Mutated children do.
>>48279504
Oh wow. Did the lizardmen actually manage to kill all the Beastmen in Lustria or what?
>>48279551
weren't many non lizard men to mutate pre chaos and all the chaos shit in lustria was fucking shit stomped after the elves got their shit together.
>>48279243
You are a furfag. Chaos warriors are awesome.
>>48279551
lizardmen kill chaos shit hardcore
The only thing I dislike about Warhammer Beastman is that there are only goat people (with the exception of harpies). Otherwise, they are awesome.
>>48279504
Why did not humanity just fucked of to some untainted isles ? Also who lives in Ulthuan ?
>>48279672
High Elves duh
>>48279663
In Ind, there is supposedly a lot more variation in beastmen, thanks to the myriad of gods and magics there.
>>48279663
There are also bull people and horse people.
>>48279663
That wasn't the case in the RPG, at least in the first edition, and around that era. Both in WFRP and in stuff like Gotrek and Felix they have all sorts of animal features and bits, sometimes from several species on one beastman. They unification comes from the logistics of actually making models.
Hm.
Which Beastmen would rape guys?
>>48280691
Any of them if thirsty enough
>>48279504
I want to know why there are so many beastmen in Araby.
Specifically Araby too, and not Nehekhara.
>>48276265
So Slaaneshis are furries too? Truly there is no fetish that they don't explore.
>>48280753
Arabians are known camel-fuckers
>>48280753
Because in nehekhara there are no living things.
Beastmen frolic where humans are, especially if near savage and uncontrolled lands.
Plus, Araby has some kind of chaos worshiping cult going on, afaik
>>48281015
>Araby has some kind of chaos worshiping cult going on
DELETE THIS
>>48281015
Khorne? It must be Khorne.
>>48279504
>nippon
u fucking wot. Since when has WHFB had not-Japan?
>>48281173
Since China was Cathay and India was Ind.
Like since 19always.
>>48281173
Clan Eshin learned their ninja bullshit there as of as long as I can even remember Clan Eshin being a thing.
>>48280691
Any of them, more to humiliate than for pleasure though. Nothing more demoralizing than being a captured knight and watching your brothers In arms who you viewed as these noble stoic badasses screaming as they get best and raped as a bunch of other beastmen laugh and mock him for being a faggot. You know, just like in real life. Man on man rape happened a lot in ancient and medieval warfare.
>>48281356
No sense in "demoralizing" someone you're going to eat once you're done with the raping.
But pure sexual sadism is a totally legit chaos thing.
>>48281356
>Man on man rape happened a lot in ancient and medieval warfare
This is still common.
>>48281463
>what's the point of torturing the victims of you're just going to kill them after
It's demoralizing to anyone who fights them, knowing that they may be raped and eaten alive if they lose. But more importantly it's absolitely humiliating and is the beastmen a way of putting humans in their place
>>48279672
Any Island free of mutated shit has worse on it.
>>48278645
>I'd think this dude was from 40k
That's because Space Marines were partly inspired by the popularity of Chaos Warriors.
No surprise that Chaos Space Marines took some of their aesthetic.
>>48273473
>No matter how much you shittalk them, Beastmen will thematically be one of the most interesting and awesome concepts you'll find in modern fantasy
No they weren't
They were a quick and dirty port of Ancient Greek Satyrs/Centaurs into Warhams, then given V:tM-esque origin stories about neglected babies
>>48284646
Of all the races, Beastmen were the least interesting. At least with Elves they used good source material (Tolkien)
>>48279663
That's mostly because of the logistic of the models. Also probably because the Old World was a big focus they went with the type of animals that would be common to it, such as goats and cows. As another Anon said there were other types of Beastmen in different parts of the world. Ind for example apparently having tigermen who behaved somewhat differently from the Beastmen as we know them. Defending villages just as much as they would attack them.
The Silver Tower brought back Tzaangors as bird like Beastmen and they're also a unit in AoS. Will likely get a kit at some point. Similar kits for the other gods could arise as there are Khornegors, Pestigors, and Slaangors. Khornegors may be the next that appears like a different animal since if I recall correctly they have the heads of hounds.
>>48281015
>>48281130
Araby's magical practices are said to be thoroughly corrupted by Tzeentch.
>>48284646
Beastmen are more than neglected babies, in fact it's just as likely that the neglected babies left to die in the woods were mutants and not Beastmen.
>>48275461
Took me a awhile to get that
What are beastmen like in 40k?
>>48286365
Not all fantasy armies carried over into 40k.
The Empire is the Imperium, Elves got lumped together into Eldar, save Dark Elves for Dark Eldar, Tomb Kings for Necrons, and Chaos for Chaos unsurprisingly.
That's it, unless there are smaller Imperium factions that got a book somewhere that parallels something from Fantasy.
>>48286365
They're mutants in the human population. They usually show up in the nastiest underhives and backworlds. They're technically illegal mutants, but sometimes they're tolerated as abhumans by the wider Imperium.
>>48286485
>>48286485
More carried over than you think.
>>48286485
>Tomb Kings for Necrons
>No Settra
>No Nagash
>No vampires
No, the Necrons are not Tomb Kings.
>>48273330
>>48273415
>>48274413
>>48277520
>>48278216
>>48280691
>>48281356
>>48281781
Dolphin beastmen when?
>>48286872
I don't think even Warhammer is sufficiently grimdark to properly represent dolphin beastmen. How could you ever convey the terror of their rape caves on the tabletop?
This thread is my magical realm but I don't want to ruin it.
>>48275461
He мaтepиcь.
>>48286748
>No, the Necrons are not Tomb Kings.
That's basically the same as saying Sigmarines aren't Space Marines or Elves aren't Eldar.
>>48287250
>muh visual symmetries
You don't even know how TK play, do you 40kiddy?
>>48287251
>No! Squats aren't Dwa
>>48287270
Thanks for outing yourself as clueless.
>>48287280
So beastmen are vicious because of their hard, brutal lives, which they blame Man for. Beastmen can be born from human parents. So if Sigmar doctrine and its proponents vanished overnight, and beastmen children were born to human parents that were not forced to give them up, how would they turn out? Would the resultant beastmen, if loved and raised by their parents, become somewhat civilized (if simple-minded) individuals? Or are they so wrought with chaos that they would eventually go berserk despite their upbringing?
>>48287344
Turnskins are a pretty small minority among beastmen and most of them end up in ungor herds because they will never attain status among true gors. But most of them were very normal people until being driven out. There's one story about a friendly school teacher who started mutating into a beastmen and was able to hide his deformities and continue his normal life for a while until finally being discovered. If for some reason Sigmar doctrine disappeared they'd still be cast out or shunned on account of being mutant freaks. Humans driving out beast mutants is pretty standard across the board, sigmar or no
>>48287395
>who started mutating into a beastmen and was able to hide his deformities and continue his normal life for a while until finally being discovered
Wait, was that 'Strange Flower' by Manfred von Diehl?
>>48288198
No it was a guy in the old world bestiary, a splatbook for WFRPG
>>48287344
In Kislev mutants are kill on sight.
So it's not a Sigmarite only thing.
The only places where people are chill regarding mutations are the chaos wastes, norsca and the under realm.
None of them too pleasent.
>>48288283
Under realm?
>>48286365
IG had beastmen in the waay earliest editions, they're considered abhumans like ogryn but less tolerated. I thinkbit was a fun idea to put them into non-chaos faction, to showcase how weird even the Imperium proper can get.
>>48279257
It's not a lie. Fimir and Beast men both did a lot of rape and procreate with humans back in the day. You can bitch and moan about it but Realms of Chaos is pretty fucking explicit about it.
>>48279663
They have every kind of beast actually. Bugs, tigers, apes, slugs, fish, cats, birds, snakes, lizards and goats, horses, bulls, lions, wolves, bats, whales and so forth. It's just hard to reproduce in modelling but in lore, Beast men are any beast + man.
Would it be worse to be taken as a slave by Beastmen or Skaven?
>>48289288
The Skaven will work you to death and eat you once you drop.
The Beastmen will rape you and make sure to eat you alive.
So I guess Skaven would be slightly better because at least you'll be dead before they start eating you.
>>48279663
Goats and rams, those are different species.
But that's mostly a modeling choice, though they are the most common type of beastmen in the empire and most of the other heads also have horns added.
>>48289288
depends on if you're as degenerate as me
beast men best
>>48279257
A) Think about themselves for more than a minute
B) Realize that they need to replenish their numbers, and the need to target women
C) Not eat the slaves, or kill them for being Human Filth
D) Figure out a way to bring the slaves around with them as they roam around and murder, as well as feeding them, birthing the child, and than raising the ensuing retard baby.
have you ever heard of instinct? how fucking retarded are you? do you think humans needed sexual education to start breeding?
>>48273423
It's fairly telling that Lustria was literally the ONLY place that the Beastmen never got a foothold in
>>48286485
i wonder if orks and orcs have something to do with each other too
>>48291022
Don't be silly.
>>48273788
don't post aos art you braindead seraphon player
>>48290921
Which is strange because Dark Elves ahve recorded fighting Pseudo-lizardfolk before. IE Beastmen whose forms are outwardly reptilian.
>>48286732
Those must be xenos though, there's a Hrud.
>>48290038
You would have a point of beastmen didn't just reproduce with each other. Keeping around humans just for reproduction is far more disadvantagous than just breeding with their beast women
>>48278645
It's almost like they worship the same gods.
>>48273566
>All men are massive sluts
>The women are also massive sluts
>????
WE'LL FIND A WAY TO BREED THEM.
>>48289288
Never heard of beast men taking slaves.
>>48279643
>You are a furfag.
n-no
i just think they're c-cool okay
>>48286872
what the fuck am i looking at here
is that dolphin fucking a dead fish
>>48282181
Feminist bullshit ahoy.
Rape is forced sex. Sex is pleasurable.
When you disconnect the pleasure of sex from rape you're making a huge logical leap that doesn't work. The vast majority of rapes are not about power or humiliation, you can express power and humiliate people far better than fucking them.
>>48295685
Yes.
Dolphins do it regularly
>>48295744
Rape is the ultimate form of humiliation for a soldier.
They're bent over and made someone's woman. They are placed in a position of physical inferiority.
Romans did this kindof shit regularly, and older cultures did it before them
>>48295786
And it's still sex, which is still pleasurable. It was feminists in the 90s who tried to divorce rape from the pleasures of sex because it made it easier to paint men as even bigger monsters.
People can understand doing something for pleasure even if they disagree with it. On the other hand doing something purely out of malice is completely different.
>>48290038
I dunno, did humans have half a braincell to work with, and have the innate desire to murder everything thats not human? And were they so fucking stupid that they cant even build fucking /tents/? A beastmans "Instinct" is to fuck what ever human they catch, and than brain it, than fuck the corpse. You think these fuckers are smart enough to manage slaves? Remember, these idiots are canonically dumber than Orcs. Its instincts is that they go find a Beastwomen, fuck her, and than leave. Its the Beastmans own deviant mind that leads to them raping people.
>>48288925
>Not even reading what I posted
I never said Beastman never raped people. Fuck, they are probably the number 1 rapists of any faction in the game, just from sheer amount. But to suggest that every single Beastman comes from rape is just stupid. They rape a lot, but they also tend to kill whoever they rape afterwards. All Im saying, is that rarely do beastmen take slaves, and its even rarer for them to last 9 whole months under their care. It makes more sense that Beastmen have their own womenfolk, through which the race breeds through.
>>48295744
>The vast majority of rapes are not about power or humiliation,
wrong, do your reading
>>48277199
>>48295837
I have done my reading. Try reading less feminist bullshit and you might learn about human sexuality and how it applies to rape a bit more.
>>48295744
>>48295826
Nobodies denying its pleasurable, but at the same time, you can't seperate the pleasure that comes from humiliating the victim, or the power that comes from fucking somebody from rape. They go hand in hand.
>>48291047
Weakest bait.
>>48286365
Human mutants. On the way from being somewhat tolerated to outright hunted.
>>48287250
The higher ranking Necrons are akin to the Tomb Kings and there are a few other similarities, but that is where they end.
The lower ranking Necrons are near mindless and composed of everything under the sun from soldiers to regular citizens who were forcibly transferred. In contrast the armies of the Tomb Kings are all composed of soldiers who willingly chose such a fate for themselves. Of course they only really remember how to wage war since not much effort was spent in attempting to preserve their souls.
Eldar really aren't Elves either, the two have very different cultures. Stormcast are also different from Space Marines in that they're actual superpowered humans and not humans who were grabbed as teenagers and pumped full of all sorts of drugs and psycho conditioning. The Stormcast can also continue to come back if they die or are killed normally at the possible risk of losing parts of their soul and thus personality.
>>48291358
Did that happen in Lustria though?
From what I recall, Naggaroth is supposed to have a bunch of underground lakes and such and is close to the Chaos Wastes, reptile like Beastmen wouldn't be out of the question.
Honestly it's kind of a shame that Warhammer Forge didn't prove to be that successful since FW was willing to kind of go with or at least tease this sort of stuff in both Tamurkhan and Monstrous Arcanum.
Always thought the concept of the Beast Kingdom of Ind from Endhammer was cool, especially its caste system (Predators on top, Prey Animals on the bottom and un-mutated below everyone). The Beastial Hordes are men playing beasts while in Ind beasts are playing men! What a perfect chaotic symmetry!
>>48296867
You sound like a neckbeard fedora fag and should propably kill yourself.
>>48296995
keep me posted
>>48297035
Update: Im dead
>>48295786
>You watch spartacus
>Suddenly caesar is raped
>>48295744
No one said the Beastmen don't enjoy it, but they aren't raping soldiers just because they like the way that fine imperial ass looks in them tight colorful pants.
I'm stealing Warhammer beastmen for my setting but making them slavers, rapists, and even raping farm animals too.
I'm probably not going to include Mpreg but it would be fun if I did.
>>48297769
You sound like a fag.
>>48297769
So...basically Broo, which is the Glorantha race that Games Workshop ripped off to make Beastmen?
Because make no mistake, Beastmen are Broo. GW originally made Broo models, and when they lost the rights to Glorantha they just kept making them and called them "Beastmen" instead.
Not only can Broo knock up men, but they can knock up things like trees, dirt, and rocks. By raping them.
>>48296454
>The higher ranking Necrons are akin to the Tomb Kings and there are a few other similarities, but that is where they end.
But that's obvious though. None of the races are just a copy paste into a new system, but they all clearly take inspiration and ideas from others.
With the exception of the Tyranids, though an argument could be made suggesting that they are influenced by the 'chitinous horde' concept of the Skavens.
>>48296454
>From what I recall, Naggaroth is supposed to have a bunch of underground lakes and such and is close to the Chaos Wastes, reptile like Beastmen wouldn't be out of the question.
There is some sort of underground ocean that the Dark Elves use to get to the Old World without having to pass Ulthuan and risk interception.
It's pretty heavily implied that this is the 'Dark Beneath the World' that's referenced a few times in Warhammer Lore. A massive, sprawling underground realm that the Orcs, Skaven and Dwarves have at least partially tapped into.
Skaven have fucking train systems down there.
>>48290921
>Lustria was literally the ONLY place that the Beastmen never got a foothold in
Ulthuan.
Lustria meanwhile got infested with Skaven, who are just a variety of beastman.
Elves >> Lizards
>>48298518
>Skaven, who are just a variety of beastman.
And didn't the lizardmen give the Skaven the boot, anyway?
>>48298154
Yeah, Broo are a big inspiration. I'm not a fan of edgy races but the ability to have all tropes- gnolls, pig orcs, goat men are all great together without bogging it down with too many races.
I also like giving the players the option to hate them or find good in them. I have plans for a minor type of beastmen story that is basically innsmouth but with sheep, not hurting anyone. It's going to be good.
>>48298273
Tyranids as Skaven...
Not AdMech is 40k Skaven. Crazy science. Cancer guns wielded by cancer soldiers instead of poison. Both batshit crazy.
>tfw you really like beastmen but think they never were used to their full potential
Horde monsters already existed, Beastmen should have been represented differently. They're the true children of Chaos, created by Chaos and left to sow it by their very aberrant, bizarre, primal nature. They should have been a guerilla warfare-style monster, a frothing wave that explodes from the forest's edge, annihilates a caravan or village, or continually frays the edges of a city and then just sinks back in, dragging unfortunate souls with them. They leave a stink and filth and rot wherever they tread, they stain and corrupt by presence. Wounded soldiers never heal right from the rusted, filthy weapons and gore-encrusted horns and claws and bacteria-filled bites.
They're the heralds of Chaos. The physical presence of it in the world.
>>48299309
Isn't that exactly what they're being sold as in the TWhammer DLC though?
>>48299305
AdMech are a relatively new addition to 40k and by the stage they were added their own lore had grown and developed naturally. I mean, shit, there has been fan codices for AdMech for more than a decade now.
/tg/ even whipped one up at around the same time they made the Rogue Trader Codex.
Also I think the technical Skaven insertion in 40k is actually supposed to be the Hrud, but they never got a massive army release.
In the Cyanide Blood Bowl game the Ogre announcer has a line where he talks about running off to the stands because of elf beauties selling Big Moot Sandwiches.
Does this mean that one day a lucky Ogre might find himself an elf beauty waifu?
Or was the line implying that he would eat them.
>>48288320
Beastmen would be very cool in 40k. Shame they got so swept under the rug. But really all the mutant stuff sort of was. Theres generally not enough focus on how fuck up the day to day is on a hiveworld for a regular joe, which is a shame because it's a source of a lot of 40k's best stuff.
>>48299309
Isn't that exactly what they are in the setting?
>>48299503
He was implying he was off to eat fifty of the sandwiches, and then eat some of the innocent by standers as well.
Also, Im not sure if the average Ogre would ever be intrested in a Elf sexually. Sure, they're pretty, but most Ogres like em big, fat and strong. Plus, the sex just would not work
>>48299503
>Does this mean that one day a lucky Ogre might find himself an elf beauty waifu?
>Or was the line implying that he would eat them.
Could go either way. Or both ways. Marry her, have an argument, then eat her.
Either she should have stayed in the kitchen more or less. Not sure which one would have helped.
>>48273330
Why rape shitty Imperial sluts when you got herds of hot cow sluts waiting for your Gor cock?
>>48299583
If I was married to a Ogre, I'd stay as far away from the kitchen as possible. The motherfucker might eat you by mistake.
>>48299737
>Stay in the kitchen
>Ogre will eat you by accident during a pantry raid
>Stay out of the kitchen
>Ogre will eat you for not making you his meals 24/7
Really you're just fucked.
>>48299764
>>48299737
Being an ogre-wife is no easy life. There are few who choose it.
Probably none, in fact. I don't really see this being a voluntary thing.
>>48299568
If so, I never got that feeling. They always just seemed like a shit wave to trampled upon and then lament you have shit on your boots and some of the guys slipped in the shit and got hurt. They never felt like a threat to me, just a nuisance. But that's just me, I wish they had more prominence.
>tfw you will never stumble upon a beastmen woods orgy before taking part in it
WHY
EVEN
LIVE
>>48299764
>>48299813
That's probably why ogres only have sex with other ogres. They're too big to eat each other.
Now im thinking about ogre sex. It's probably like two really fat people going at it. And than add in lots and lots of eating as they do it. They probably eat really greasy foods while they do it.I kinda want to see two Ogres go on a romantic dinner date in a Imperial city.
>>48298741
There are still clans under lustria.
But yeah, they are too stable for beastmen.
>>48299971
>>48298308
I'm now imaging a clan of Skaven taking a train to Lustria so they can enjoy a nice tropical holiday.
>>48299305
The Mechanicus and Skaven really aren't similar at all. The only clans that have any overlap with the former are Skyre and possibly Moulder and Skyre is closer to the Dark Mechanicus than it is the Mechanicus.
The Mechanicus really doesn't have a Fantasy equivalent.
As another Anon said, the closest analogue the Skaven have in 40k is the Hrud.
>>48299525
I think the problem with mutants is that it's really hard to figure out where to place them. Abhumans can possibly fit in with Guard and you could also stick random mutants in Chaos Space Marines or Renegades and Heretics, but that is about it. HH has the Imperial Militia/Warp Cults army list.
>>48299971
Not to mention how they were created is completely different. Beastmen are largely implied to have originally been humans who were twisted into beasts by Chaos while the Skaven were normal rats who were twisted by Chaos.
This is why Beastmen can be born from other Beastmen and normal humans and even animals can turn into them, but Skaven are born only from other Skaven.
>>48295786
If you think getting rape is the ultimate form of humiliation, you lack imagination.
>>48301807
>Lacking imagination
To be fair, Its fucking beastmen. Their greatest technological feat is peasant carts turned into Chariots, and while being too stupid to use bows. Imagination is most certainly not their strong point.
>>48301550
I think personally, the best way to define Beastmen and Skaven is this:
Beastmen are men lowered to to evils of beasts, loosing everything that made them men, leaving nothing but the base instincts.
Skaven are beasts elevated to the evils of man; they are smart, ingenious, intelligent, yet also greedy, paranoid and murderlus.
They are both the creation of chaos, but one is elevated to a higher existence, while one is torn down.
>>48301550
>Not to mention how they were created is completely different. Beastmen are largely implied to have originally been humans who were twisted into beasts by Chaos while the Skaven were normal rats who were twisted by Chaos.
The text says clearly in the beastmen books that Beastmen were created when normal humans were mutated into beasts and normal beasts were mutated into men. Then these new creatures mated and then mated again and that produced the Beastmen. Also there is ZERO human blood or genetics in the Southpole Beastmen.
Get your facts straight, you fucking racist.
>>48301979
Again with the fucking racism. The army book outright states that Beastmen, due to their intense bitterness and hate towards mankind and anything wholesome, are quite imaginative in the tortures and punishment they inflict on their enemies.
Also Ungors use bows.
>>48297819
What?
>>48299885
nah i agree. they're criminally underfluffed
>>48299571
>ogre getting an elf waifu
I think you're underestimating the size disparity between the 2 races, That ogres cock is probably the size of the elfs torso. Unless ogres are like gorillas and have disproportionally small dicks
>>48299309
I think they should be the ones called Warriors of Chaos and the actual WoC cringeworthy viking wank shouldn't exist to begin with.
>>48291358
Chaos-spawned lizard beastmen are not the same as Old One-spawned proper lizardmen.
>>48295834
I know it's stupid but that's how Realms of Chaos had it. Fimir and Beastmen were all male parasitoids that raped females from other species and killed them on birthing, like trolls from Berserk. Also, they got a pretty interesting vibe compared to WoC who had a kind of knightish grandee to tg em, highlighting the more positive aspects of the Chaos Gods in comparison to the daemons and BM.
>>48288289
Skaven Empire.
>>48302084
>Again with the fucking racism
Bruh..... Beastmen are savages cause they are written as savages. Also Ungors sucks.
>>48306477
why the hate on ungors?
>goat noises
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SIaFtAKnqBU
>>48273416
>not ducks
>>48279221
I still don't understand why folk are complaining about this.
>>48286748
The Necrons do have a Settra though.
>>48299889
If you go Slaaneshi, you have the right to fuck female Beastmen any time you want and male Beastmen have to tolerate your presence no matter what you do.
They'll murder the fuck out of Khornates, Nurglites, and Tzeentchians, but Slaaneshi can strut around the camp swaying their hips like a drunk prostitute, putting out cigars in the eyes of minotaurs that are literally frothing at the mouth while they stand there and take it, drink all their wine, then fuck all of their women and leave after blowing them a kiss.
>>48310044
Did they have a Settra who the four Chaos Gods literally, themselves rather than through a representative Greater Daemon, promised literally everything ever as their immortal champion who rules over all, and turn it down because it means he'd be serving them and declare he will kill them and rule over all by himself?
What about an insane homocidal maniac made of beetles who can just appear anywhere he wants and kill whoever he wants?
Or the most badass chick in continuity who's entire mission statement is to wipe out another faction?
How about a character who aspires to become a Chaos God, and actually has a plan on getting it done?
>>48284646
They are more Southern Germanic Krampus or Perchts rather than satyrs.
Fits with the theme of rampagign from the wild regions and eating people, aswell as having horns and generaly beeing unpleasant.
>>48278645
>there any reason for Chaos Warriors to look -so- similar in different worlds
Because they're the same. Old art has chaos warriors holding shit like bolters in fantasy. The gods cross over.
>>48279221
Man, that beastlord has one hell of a pimp swagger.
>>48311352
Beastmen are just as much agents of Khorne as they are agents of Slannesh. You can join their orgies if you are a cultist, but they still hate you for being a human.
>>48311352
Wat?
>>48311661
The difference is Khorne doesn't care if you kill his followers and outright encourages it. Slaanesh forbids it because Slaanesh's theme in Fantasy is pampering his followers until they're hedonistic manchildren that get more from him than they'll ever give back.
>>48311667
One of the old Warhammer Fantasy supplements, Realm of Chaos I think. Slaanesh gives his followers the okay to do whatever they want. Since Beastmen are the lowest rank of Chaos, and have to obey all the Chaos Gods, they aren't allowed to touch Slaanesh's devotees.
>>48309962
Idiots can't self-insert for power fantasies unless it's a human.
>>48309962
Twenty US dollars for a race and campaign.
I wish I was a beastman killing and raping farmers. Fuck rednecks.
>>48311762
Yeah, but only fucking dipshit morons pay for it at launch. I mean, by Christmas all the content and core game will only be like $30 on Steam.
>>48302024
That seems like a pretty decent way of looking at it. Beastmen exhibit some of worst traits of humanity and are the types of things that would get a person labeled as more like an animal or monster.
Skaven are some of the worst aspects of humanity projected onto rats.
Honestly, it's this kind of stuff that makes it annoying when people screech about taking 40k or Fantasy seriously, there are aspects within both that can provoke interesting discussion. The only criticism I can think of to counter that is that 40k and Fantasy possibly lifted the above from other sources.
>>48304260
Marauders are kind of in the same boat as Beastmen aesthetics wise in that like the Beastmen only getting cows and goats despite the lore saying there was more, the Marauders only got viking aesthetics despite that really only working for Norsca and possibly another tribe, while you also had tribes like the Hung who'd probably look completely different due to being closer to Cathay. Probably didn't help that Marauders really weren't that popular in comparison to the Chaos Warriors.
