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July 9th in military history:
491 – Odoacer makes a night assault with his Heruli guardsmen, engaging Theoderic the Great in Ad Pinetam. Both sides suffer heavy losses, but in the end Theodoric forces Odoacer back into Ravenna.
660 – Korean forces under general Kim Yu-sin of Silla defeat the army of Baekje in the Battle of Hwangsanbeol.
1386 – The Old Swiss Confederacy makes great strides in establishing control over its territory by soundly defeating the Archduchy of Austria in the Battle of Sempach.
1701 – A Bourbon force under Nicolas Catinat withdraws from a smaller Habsburg force under Prince Eugene of Savoy in the Battle of Carpi.
1745 – French victory in the Battle of Melle allows them to capture Ghent in the days after.
1755 – The Braddock Expedition is soundly defeated by a smaller French and native American force in its attempt to capture Fort Duquesne in what is now downtown Pittsburgh.
1790 – The Swedish Navy captures one third of the Russian Baltic fleet.
1863 – The Siege of Port Hudson ends, giving the Union complete control of the Mississippi River.
1932 – The state of São Paulo revolts against the Brazilian Federal Government, starting the Constitutionalist Revolution.
1943 – The Allied invasion of Sicily soon causes the downfall of Mussolini and forces Hitler to break off the Battle of Kursk.
1944 – Operation Charnwood gives British and Canadian forces control of Caen north of the Odon and Orne rivers, as well as the Carpiquet airfield.
1944 – American forces take Saipan, bringing the Japanese archipelago within range of B-29 raids, and causing the downfall of the Tojo government.
1944 – Finland wins the Battle of Tali-Ihantala, the largest battle ever fought in northern Europe. The Red Army withdraws its troops from Ihantala and digs into a defensive position, thus ending the Vyborg–Petrozavodsk Offensive.
1972 – The Troubles: In Belfast, British Army snipers shoot five civilians dead.
It is 630 years since the Battle of Sempach, fought between the forces of between the Duke of Austria Leopold III and the Old Swiss Confederacy. The battle was a decisive Swiss victory in which Duke Leopold and numerous Austrian nobles died. The victory helped turn the loosely allied Swiss Confederation into a more unified nation and is seen as a turning point in the growth of Switzerland.
During 1383-1384, the expansion of the Old Swiss Confederacy collided with Austrian interests. In 1385, there were various attacks, without formal declaration of war or central organization, by Confederation forces on several Austrian strongholds.
In January 1386, Lucerne expanded its sphere of influence by entering pacts with a number areas under Austrian control. This move was the immediate cause of war. A local Austrian force defeated the Confederate garrison at Meienberg, and Lucerne called the Confederacies for assistance. An armistice was called, but neither side had any interest in ending the conflict, and instead it escalated into a full-scale military confrontation.
Duke Leopold gathered his troops at Brugg, consisting of his feudal vassals, as well as mercenaries and the bourgeois forces of various towns. In the course of a few weeks, no less than 167 noblemen declared war on the Swiss. These declarations were sent to the Swiss diet in groups. On 24 June, a messenger brought 15 declarations of war. Before all letters had been read, another delivered eight, and before he had finished speaking, yet more were brought in. A further eight messengers arrived on the following day.
The gathering of Austrian forces suggested an intended attack on Zürich, and the Confederate forces moved to protect that city. But Leopold marched south, with the intention of ravaging the Lucerne countryside and perhaps ultimately the city itself. The Austrian army had a troop of mowers with them with the purpose of cutting down the corn and destroying the harvests along their route.
>>48192514
Leopold's men taunted those behind the walls of the town, and a knight waved a noose at them and promised them he would use it on their leaders. Another mockingly pointed to the soldiers setting fire to the ripe fields of grain, and asked them to send a breakfast to the reapers. From behind the walls, there was a shouted retort: "Lucerne and the allies will bring them breakfast!"
The Confederate troops marched back from Zürich once it became clear that this was not Leopold's target. The forces of Zürich had remained behind defending their own city, while those of Bern had not heeded the Confederate call for assistance.
The Confederation Army had assembled at the bridge over the Reuss River at Gisikon. It marched from there, hoping to catch Leopold still at Sempach where he could be pressed against the lake. Around noon, the two armies made contact about 2 km outside of Sempach. This was to the mutual surprise of both armies, which were both on the move and not in battle order. But both sides were willing to engage and formed ranks.
The Swiss held the wooded high ground. Since the terrain was not deemed suitable for a cavalry attack, Leopold's knights dismounted, and because they did not have time to prepare for the engagement, they were forced to cut off the tips of their poulaines which would have hindered their movement on foot. The Swiss chroniclers report how a huge pile of these shoe-tips was found in a heap after the battle.
The main body of the Confederation army finally completed its deployment from the marching column, formed up, and attacked the knights from the flank aggressively. The Austrian force formed a wide rank and threatened to surround the outnumbered Confederates.
How and at what point the battle turned in favour of the Confederates is a matter of debate. In any case, the Swiss did break through the Austrian ranks and routed the enemy army completely. Duke Leopold and with him a large number of nobles and knights were slain.
>>48192528
Traditional Swiss historiography since the 16th century has attributed the turning of the tide to the heroic deed of Arnold von Winkelried, who opened a breach in the Habsburg lines by throwing himself into their pikes, taking them down with his body so that the confederates could attack through the opening. Winkelried is usually explained as a legendary figure introduced to explain the Swiss victory against the odds, perhaps as late as a full century after the battle. The earliest evidence of the Winkelried legend is the depiction of the battle in the Lucerne Chronicle of 1513. The oldest accounts of the battle are unambiguous in the judgement that the Swiss victory was against all odds and expectations, and is attributed to the grace of God.
Not without justification, the Battle of Sempach came to be seen as the decisive turning point between the foundation of the confederacy as a loose pact in the 14th century, and its growth into a significant political and military power during the 15th century. At the peak of the military success of the Eight Cantons in the period of 1470 to 1510, Swiss historiography paid great attention to the Battle of Sempach. It is depicted in the Swiss illustrated chronicles of the period, and discussed by Reformation era historiographers such as Aegidius Tschudi and Wernher Steiner. Since there are few historiographical accounts of the battle predating 1470, it is difficult to judge the historicity of the individual details.
Sempach is a bloody and closely-fought battle, representing a shift in medieval warfare, and is definitely worth a turn on the tabletop.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/0827v9nhi65ynn9/Osprey+-+ELI+189+-+European+Medieval+Tactics+%282%29.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ltrrxb4d2bgkxpb/Osprey+-+MAA+094+-+The+Swiss+at+War+1300-1500.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jbnm8prrz1443g4/Osprey+-+MAA+166+-+German+Medieval+Armies+1300-1500.pdf
I don't see it mentioned up there, but in last thread there was idea for each of us to make a small project and post them, due to 15 august. I don't know how to call it- ,,HWG Quaterly getting swtuff done" for now.
Subject of this very first edition- Casualty marker
It would be a shame to let idea die. Some people started already.
a bit of wargaming history.
Life magazine 1961
extremely rare. I know of only a couple issues still intact
>>48192749
later that year Parker Brothers would release a boxed version of the game
https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4851/civil-war-game-1863
>>48192749
Damn, that's pretty fucking grog. I wonder who the designer was, they're uncredited.
>>48192723
I didn't think to mention it in the OP, but it's definitely still a thing as long as there are a few interested anons.
Hey /hwg/, help me understand sheathed swords.
When the scabbard is resting on the wielder's left hip, is it always unsheathed using his right arm or are there styles/methods that unsheathe it with the left?
Did people ever carry swords or daggers with the scabbard resting horizontally above their butt? I've seen it in multiple fantasy contexts but it's hard to find references for it when googling.
How would you base the loader?
Small round base or the large one like the gunner? Or maybe use an even bigger one and put both of them onto the same base?
Would it look like shit if i just glue a rifle onto the loaders back? Like there wouldn't be a strap or anything
>>48193296
Well if you're left handed you'd wear it on your right and draw with your left.
Hanging it across the ass though ain't exactly practical. I don't ever remember coming across it being a thing in my studies. Way more likely to find a dagger being carried up front behind a pouch than anything else.
>>48193320
Do the rules you're using treat the loader and gunner as seperate figures for casualty purposes, or no? If yes, base separately, if no, they'll look a lot better on one base.
You can always green stuff a strap on there to make it look better. If it's not something you've done before, making straps is pretty simple sculpting and it'll be good practice for more complicated reposes later.
>>48193320
You could just lay the rifle down on the ground next to him.
>>48193503
They are for BA mostly and might see use in 5 men too. So i guess i'll give each a separate base
Now that you mentioned it.. i ordered a pack of gs a while ago and never actually tried using it. It might be the perfect opportunity to use it.
>>48193320
> Would it look like shit if i just glue a rifle onto the loaders back?
What if you put the rifle on the ground next to him?
>>48192834
be nice to know. I should ask my buddy who has an issue to get some good scans of the magazine and go through it and figure out who designed it.
in other news my buddy who owns the game company in Poland is getting closer to releasing his first computer game. First game is covering Bulge and has 6 scenarios so far with more in development.
>>48193735
That looks very Panzer General.
>>48193730
That is going to happen if the GS tries won't prove successful.
>>48193320
I always try to keep minis on their own bases, purely for simplicity. Unless it's like the loader holding onto the belt that he's feeding into the machine gun, at which point it makes more sense for them to share the base. For those I have little tokens I can use to mark how many models are dead on the base.
Battlegroup.
Where can I find stats for things like K-guns, FG42s, Stg. 44, etc.? There's units equipped with them, but I can't find anything about what their stats are.
>>48193320
I put my MMGs on one base, LMGs on 2 separate bases, except when I pose stuff like pic related.
>>48194056
>>48194100
>>48194056
This seemed to be a clever way to shoot with an lmg, but why did only the germans do it? Is there a reason for that?
>>48194129
Googling "human bipod" does give examples of non-WW2 Germans being used for stable platforms. I'd wager, and this is just me speculating, it has something to do with the build of the weapon. Things like Bren guns and BARs have grips and can be fired by a single operator with their two hands. And they have a slower rate of fire, which could help to control them.
Germans, however, did not have such LMGs and instead have the MMGs. It's quite possible the rate of fire and the lack of a grip meant it was not easy to control. So for a quick setting up another trooper simply grabbed the bipod and provided a quick platform to fire off a few bursts before moving again without the hassle of getting the gun into position, etc. It's also possible the position gave the gun a higher stance, so it could be shot over obstacles and grass in between you and the target.
>>48194234
> that pic
> bipod
> for a camera
>>48194234
he could have gripped the bipod though
>>48194439
It's at the tip of the gun, though. Hard to shoulder the gun and hold onto it.
>>48194467
i meant like pic related.
But if the pic above isn't staged then he is most likely firing just a small burst before running to the next cover since holding the barrel like this will prevent firing for a longer time anyway.
>>48194538
>i meant like pic related.
But as you'll note, he's firing from the hip, while when firing with the gun on someone's shoulder, it's shouldered. It's a stable platform for more accurate firing then just spraying the general postal code of the target.
>>48194234
damn fallschirmjaeger look so cool.
Anyone have any of the Lock n Load line of fire magazine pdfs? Some of the scenarios could be repourposed for tabletop
>>48193296
First, a sheath is floppy, a scabbard is stiff. They are not the same thing.
Usually you'd draw from the opposite side so you can draw your sword more easily from a longer movement of the arm and pulling away with the opposite hand. That's why swords are often seen dangling from the belt, too.
>>48194129
Blowing your buddies eardrums out would be one reason.
>>48193296
>resting horizontally above their butt?
>>48193484
> across the ass
It makes sense (in fantasy environment) if you want to hide your dagger. Kinda like putting it into the sleeve or the boot. Not very practical, but hidden. It also is supposed to look cool (Bronn from GoT comes to my mind for example).
>>48195341
And the germans didn't cared about the ability to hear or what are you trying to say?
>>48195372
I'm saying that guns are fucking loud and having one going off near your ear will deafen you. Even troops today don't wear earplugs as it hinders your ability to communicate.
When i first opened the box of these Wargames Factory Soviets the simplistic looking rifles were kinda bothering me. But now after building almost all of the minis together i really start to like them.
Now i'm sad that Warlord Games apparently bought the rights to distribute the WGF stuff and that they probably won't re-release the WW2 boxes.
>>48195467
I'm annoyed because I wanted the WGF ashigaru and Warlord Games have got nothing about it on their website.
>>48195501
They are still available from several stores on ebay i guess. I just checked and found a seller with both the melee and ranged version.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wargames-Factory-28mm-Ashigaru-Yari-Troops-25-Japanische-Infanterie-/322156736701?hash=item4b0209b0bd:g:OAwAAOSwepJXZUET
>>48193484
>>48193296
I've definitely seen daggers drawn from a horizontal sheath on the back in historical drawings. This is how we simulate drawing daggers in HEMA as well.
>>48192749
>1961
Holy fuck, my father wasn't alive back then.
>>48195467
>>48195501
I guess both of them will be available at one point - if you buy an entire company's range to sell, especially if it's in plastic, it's idiotic not to sell everything again, even if you have something similar (or exactly the same) in your range already.
>>48196120
I somehow can't see it. They have 2 boxes of plastic soviets, 2 boxes (a 3rd one coming soon) of americans and 3 boxes with germans.
I can't see how they can add a cheaper box for each nation than their own.
Well, they could increase the price of the WGF boxes to match theirs.. but then they lose their attractiveness. As nice as they are, Warlord (newer) Plastics are superior.
>>48196120
Happens quite often actually. Tons of old kits disappeared into the void. Remember the Bandai 1/48 kits? There were lots of interesting tanks in that scale but they aren't produced any longer.
>>48196172
Check the price on the already re-released kits from ACW. Or ask them directly, they kinda responsive, plus prolly have a huge stock of WGF Soviets.
>>48196214
Not as often in Wargaming tho.
>>48196237
Because the usage of plastic in wargaming is a rather new development.
LAV-75
>>48193320
A strip of paper coated in white glue would work if you don't have any putty. Might be harder to get it t o contour to the figure though
Could do a large base with a little circle cutout to hold the loader so he can be removed separately but together they form a little vignette. Otherwise could just put a marker indicating the combined base is down to 1 guy left
BMP-2
>>48189968
>then set their own booby traps for the VC
One interesting thing LRRP's did was take captured boxes of shells (mortar/cannon), rig a couple to detonate on firing, then drop them off along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. When a supply group went thru they would just think it got dropped and would pick it up and deliver it. The face of the gook wondering why his mortar just exploded taking out him and his crew...priceless.
>>48196087
>1961
>Holy fuck, my father wasn't alive back then
Stop making me feel old, my Dad was class of 1965
>>48201329
they did the same with just bullets too, would load some sabotaged ones into captured AKs then drop then over the jungle for the VC to pick up
>>48201370
Project Eldest Son, wasn't it?
>>48198560
Nice models, but by hell there feels like a lot of purple / pink light in this image!
Cheap 1:72!!
44 German soldiers for 1200yen! (Revell)
So, Airfix, revell, tamiya 1:72. How interchangeable and mixable are the different manufacturers between men and machines etc?
Neede some 1:72
>>48202343
>How interchangeable and mixable are the different manufacturers between men and machines etc?
Completely. You can even use 1:76 and no one will notice unless they right next to a 1:72 of the exact same model.
1:72 is a based scale for cheapness, especially with the italieri double fast-build kits, and the Plastic Soldier Companies 3 X tank kits (which are based af - T-34s come with /76 AND /85 turrets)
>>48202422
was that being played on a mattress?
>>48202737
Siberian-tundra-interior-decoration-dust-cover of win or something.
>>48202422
Cheers. Not only that they have real wide range of historical eras too.
>>48201329
I'm starting to feel real old now that all the new girls entering porn are starting to have birth dates after 1996. Fuck, people that were born the same year half life came out are legal adults now for christ sake
>>48202737
On a full bed with blankets / pillows. Allows for realistic hull down positions where tanks can hide, and for artillery to easily hide way at the back of the map out of line of sight. Sometimes we take everything off and play on a flat table, but we've grown accustomed to rolling hills and it works pretty well to add an element of 3D to the "tabletop"
>>48202756
we call that specific white gaming sheet thesemen-stained wastelandThere has never been any semen on it though, sadly.
We're playing Ostfront here btw. I think it was a 150 point mid-war game
>>48202828
>>48202422
this table/terrain is giving me cancer
>>48203064
Yeah we're more gamers than terrain makers. I tend to put the absolute minimum into my WW2 minis, and spend most of my time researching, playtesting and writing the rules. The Wehrmacht in those photos aren't mine, they're my buddies who actually puts in effort and bases and paints his infantry.
Have some Chemo for your cancer!
>>48202800
Some are even posting in this thread.
>>48203393
>>48203746
I was born in 95 senpai
>>48203764
'96 here
>>48203789
1994 represent.
>>48203803
1993 here
all later years are not as good, 1994 is aight though.
>>48202343
go to http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/Index.aspx and check the different boxes for yourself. Re-boxing happens alot there.
>>48202828
You might be amazed how many girls appreciate the hobby. Not out of a sudden interest for military or history but simply because of the painting/building.
Isn't rolling dices on a "3D"-board really annoying though?
>>48203764
>>48203789
>>48203803
Oh wow, you guys just were in elementary school when we oldfags discovered 4chan.
>>48204081
>Isn't rolling dices on a "3D"-board really annoying though?
not gonna lie, it can be. The suspense of a really important roll and the dice just keeps rolling down the hill, 6s flashing before your eyes....
Had some girls turn up a couple months ago while we were setting up for an NZwars game. ended up playing some skirmishes with them, it was hilarious, they enjoyed getting some 1 shot fatal hits with muskets. I saw a girl playing FoW at a tournament once too.Also there's no semen on the sheet because its only for gaming purposes, it lives in the terrain box
>>48204144
>it lives in the terrain box
The semen?
I'd love me some qt girl who likes wargaming, but first I'd be happy with one who likes me;_;
>>48203764
>>48203789
>>48203855
1975 chuckles at the back. Newfags.
>>48204265
1986 here. My year has better disasters than yours. Chernobyl, Challenger.
>>48204097
I started lurking at 14 back in 2004. I feel a mixture of old and disappointed that I'm still here.
>>48204161
Don't worry anon, there's someone out there for youjust kidding, we'll all die alone. At least we have our armies
>>48204144
>not using a dice tray
Between that and literally playing on a bed it's like you're trying to give me an aneurysm, Anon.
>>48204283
oh yeah, poor 1986 it has your birthday too! ^_^
>>48204265
>>48204283
As a '76er I turned 40 this year and I've been fascinated in flashing back to the military history of that era. All the mercenary stuff in Africa, Lebanon, Western Sahara, the coup in Argentina, Central America falling apart, urban terrorism literally exploding, the horrors of the Third Cod War - it's the world I originally knew. That's part of the reason I chose the Luanda Trial and Entebbe as thread starters recently. Next month sees the anniversary of the Axe Murder incident in Korea, when two American officers were killed by North Korean soldiers while attempting to chop down a tree on the DMZ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident
>>48204283
i'm born in 86 too. May even.
>>48204424
>>48204265
I just have to assume /hwg/ is one of the only places on 4chan with such high average age.
>>48204424
I remember watching the Falklands conflict as a kid. Ark Royal man.... Jump jets. Fucking jump jets!
>>48204858
the earliest conflict i remember from tv was turks vs kurds, grosny and then balkan stuff.
>>48192723
Fucked up with the sand and had to redo it (and scrape it off the figure. Need to pick up some PVA glue today.
Also paints. All the paints.
>>48193484
>>48193296
At the bottom of the back is a great place to have a dagger - it doesn't get in the way and you can pull it out quite easily when it comes to grappling.
It was depicted pretty frequently during the renaissance. I don't know about other time periods.
>>48193296
Devil captures a soldier by Urs Graf, 1516
>>48205209
those balls
>>48195501
Hey fellow sengoku-fag.
The Ashigaru, samurai and mounted samurai are on their webstore, but they're sold at 4/5gpb / 6.50/8usd a sprue.
So at the moment considering ashigaru you'd be paying around 35us for a box that used to cost 20ish.
Mounted samurai are 16usd for 5.
For me, anyways, at that price, they're no longer worth it. I've decided to just bite the bullet, finish what I've got, and do the rest Perry.
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>>48204880
BOF remembering fall of Saigon on TV, also getting up in the night to see the moon landing...
>pic not related
>>48205404
Mostly because they are just single sprues, not boxed sets. Hopefully they'll do a rebox of them - not that I need 28mm Samurai, but I might grab a single box for conversions and shit (some Mishima samurai or something).
>>48205404
Wait for their "-50% on sprues" sale that is happening twice (i think) per year.
>>48205426
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10711920
I'm not a big fan of the samurai box. It's a pretty early WGF kit and has a lot of issues compared to the later ashigaru kits.
>>48205428
Maybe? To be honest, I wasn't too impressed by the WGF Japanese that I do have outside of the price/quantity ratio.
That and since I mostly play Ronin with the Japanese minis, I no longer need boxes of ashigaru
>>48195372
Well there was an "Ear Battalion" that fought in Berlin composed of soldiers who had been previously discharged due to hearing loss and damage.
>>48204097
Born in 81. I still remember hearing a news broadcast when I was young about "gorilla fighters" shooting up Beirut. I had nightmares for years about heavily armed simians running through the streets.
Then there was my parents watching a wall covered in graffiti being torn down and crying with joy. I had no idea why. Same year I saw a man standing in front of a tank, and my parents crying again, but this time they were sad. I still had no idea what was happening.
>>48205423
> mfw one day I'll be showing what an oldfag I am because I remember 9/11 and the millenium.
Nice little documentary / Mock up of the battle of Long Tan for the Namfags out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gUSq7pxux4
Australian units heavily outnumbered by NVA forces.
>>48205746
Thanks! I need to get back to the 'nam mood at one point, but can't really paint the Vietnamese as I ran out of plastidip and can't order till August. Plus no T-55s either.
Worst thing was, after basing the US platoon, I picked up the Esci Vietnamese box, opened it, looked at them for a good 5 minutes, then put them back, and did this at least twice a day. Can't really bear myself to actually start on them yet.
>>48205746
RIP Morrie Stanley
http://www.baka.com.au/comment/obituaries/nz-digger-called-in-howitzers-at-nui-dat-20100928-15vox.html
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hwsp20q2j0u6tbp/Osprey+-+ELI+103+-+Australian+%26+New+Zealand+Troops+In+Vietnam+1962-72.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTjvG4WJD_A
>>48205902
>http://www.baka.com.au
Oh shit, the initials for Sydney Morning Herald get filtered! Try this link
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10648292
>>48205746
holy shit that voice over was cringey
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15577379/Rapid%20Fire%20Able%20Archer%202.7.pdf
Cold War Expansion for Rapid Fire. Stuff is free, but could take its place in the folders.
I'm sorting through the osprey folders and maybe I missed it, but are there any native american, zulu and aztec reference pdfs somewhere in there?
I do love /hwg/. thanks chaps. Warm feels.
(As you were gentlemen....)
>>48206220
>native american
Several of them in the Victorian and Horse & Musket folders
>zulu and aztec
You really can't go wrong with this
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8o3yhya4d1ywvq8/Armies+of+Mesoamerica.pdf
>>48201370
Anyone here head to Bovington Tank Museum for the wargaming event yesterday? Any pics of anything tasty?
>>48205414
I've long suspected that /hwg/ was a thread for grown-ups, now I have proofs.1985, 4Chan since 2004, /tg/ since day 3 because I missed it in the board list for a couple of days
Really though it's because typically people move on to historicals after the GW phase when they open up to what's out there in gaming.
>>48204880
Desert Storm
>>48205414
I think of 20mm and 1:72 being the same thing
>>48207484
links to 1:72 moderns?
>>48206537
>>48207484
But 1:72 is 25mm. A 6 foot man is 72 inches tall, so is 1" (25mm) at that scale.
>>48207504
Yeah, but then again, manufacturers rarely give a shit. Universally 1:72 is referred as 20mm, even tho it's much closer to 1:76, but people associate 25mm with 28mm. So it's 20mm/1:72 in most of the cases.
>>48207519
Huh. I don't own any 1:72s but I assumed they were just on the small end of 25 because of how the maths works out.
>>48207626
They are usually around 23mm tall.
>>48207812
cunt
>>48206993
Honestly, I never had a GW phase. Battletech was my first wargame, so I was pretty well doomed to grogdom from the start. I did play other shit once upon a time too, but now it's just BT and navals that tend to hold my fascination.
>>48207504
>>48207519
>>48207626
I think part of the problem is that whilst 1:72 might be a precise scale, a lot of figures are no-where near that. And 25mm for wargaming miniatures being the vague measurement of 25mm from foot to eye, not top of head, doesn't help alongside the massively distorted proportions commonly sculpted out of necessity (particularly for the time that 25mm figures were a thing still)
So 1:72 has ended up being smaller than '25mm' figures and far more akin to 20mm sized figures with 25mm relegated to being largely dead as a sizing for miniatures.
>>48207856
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/ShowFeature.aspx?id=28
Luv ya, hun.
>>48207873
BT was my first as well. I read the shit out of the 3rd edition rulebook while sitting in the back of the truck on a 6000km drive (old man was posted).
Where is the best 1/72 moderns?
>>48208118
Elhiem in metal, Caesar in plastic.
I usually do 6mm stuff but wanna have some 25mm stuff for painting. Is this a good kit to just start and work through?
http://www.model-making.eu/products/Battle-of-the-Bulge.html
>>48208171
Get Italeri's newer kit from their webstore, Operation Cobra I think, or the Battle of the Bulge kits. You get basically two armies for Bolt action or Battlegroup plus some terrain. The one you linked is an older set of theirs, with more...complicated and old kits (tanks are from Esci, infantry appears to be too), in the newer ones you get snap-fit vehicles and much-much better figures.
>>48206993
I'm '88 here and new to mini gaming, but I got a lot of friends who are ex-GW addicts and would tell me how great the hobby is (as long as its not Sigmar or 40k). So I ended up leaning towards historicals cuz history is more interesting to me than the usual fantasy thing.
Basically I avoided a GW phase thanks to good friends,
>>48208222
With the newer bastogne kit... Do i have to paint them covered in snow/with their white overalls. Im more inclined to make it with normal colours so it can be used on most tables...
>>48207489
What are you looking for?
Biggest figure range is
https://www.elhiem.co.uk/
http://www.underfireminiatures.com/ has smaller rnage but very high quality
http://www.vepafigures.com/ nice but somewhat delicate
Wee Friends: http://eshop.friendshipmodels.org.uk/epages/BT3667.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3667/Categories/Wee_Friends/Braille_scale_172nd__176th_scale More aimed at modellers/collectors than gamers
RH Liberation is owned by some kind of aggressive grognard autist but if you really want you could attempt to order from him.
Handfull of plastic kits out there too http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodList.aspx?period=48
http://www.plasticsoldierreview.com/PeriodList.aspx?period=46
For vehicles there are lots of plastic kits and some resin mfgs
>>48193296
Romans had their scabbards on the right side of their body and would draw with the right hand
>>48208721
Their blades were way shorter though.
>>48208415
Then get the Cobra kit with the Fallschirmjager and US infantry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEV8XBmsNaE
The queen of /hwg/ has spoken!
>>48208895
Literally who?
>>48209370
a bitch with an ugly voice who gets posted from time to time.
some of her vids are kinda good though
>>48209410
>a bitch with an ugly voice who gets posted from time to time.
Literally never before.
>>48209370
What's with the greenstuff turd?
>>48209562
i saw her once or twice now.
>>48209616
>Turdmon has evolved to Poolk.
>>48209562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3fy0AIN22c
She has some amazing tutorials though. Well worth watching
>>48209752She's my wargaming waifu :(
TIL there's an ebay store that sells exclusively 00-gauge models of wrecked or abandoned trains.
Not exactly /hwg/-related, but it could serve as cool terrain inspiration.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/rustyrailyard
>>48211230
Not exactly /hwg/-related?
Nigga, in trains, 00 is my jam. It goes great with 1:72.
>>48211230
That's weirdly specific but a cool find.
For table clutter you might check this guy: http://www.rustyrail.com/index.html
Prices are generally pretty reasonable though i don't know what he charges for shipping to Europe
1989. Vaguely remember Bosnia, definitely remember John Major and the death of Princess Diana.
GW got my early teens. A couple of flirtations with gaming in my late teens and early twenties. Getting back into it after a break for my career...
>>48211804
He's got great stuff, especially for Great Depression/Gangsters/Late Western Era.
Definietly on a pricy side through.
Got around finishing my Daimler Armoured Car - apparently I'm on a roll!
>>48212157
fuck off uncle
Can any one tell me how often Elheim replenishes their pulp stock after a pose runs out?
I'm interested in Hail Caesar mostly because i like the idea of an army of Celts. I'd like to use them for AoS too but i'm not sure of the scale if anyone can help. But mostly i'm curious about the game itself, is it any good? Is there a lot to learn compared to the various GW games?
>>48212666
Die in a fire (and arrange the tiny manz) Jackie.
>>48212702
Why not read it and decide for yourself?
>>48212769
I will, just curious what the general consensus is
>>48212702
Why not Warhammer Ancient Battles?
>>48212838
I know nothing about historical games so just thought i'd look into Hail Caesar as it's what the miniatures are designed for. I'm not really fussy though, just interested.
>>48212702
Given that GW core games are typically padded out to all hell with special circumstance rules for units and items, it's almost certain that it's gonna be much easier to learn.
Hail Caesar, like almost everything Warlord makes for games, is inoffensively average. It's not gonna win any awards for design, but it isn't terrible by any means either.
>>48212817
I think like all Warlord Games consensus is that it is fine but probably not the best in the market.
>>48212885
With historical miniatures theres basically no such thing as miniatures designed for anything. Warlord make the figures and the rules, but theres no reason you need to use their figures, or 28mm figures at all.
>>48212838
>Why not Warhammer Ancient Battles?
It's not a good game. Warmaster Ancients yes but Warhammer? Hell no.
>>48212980
For the sake of curiosity, why?
>>48212888
>>48212905
Cool thanks, i'll look into it and see how it goes until i find something better.
>>48212980
WAB isn't terrible. It's not the best but it's certainly passable.
>>48212429
nigga you got fine ass hair
>>48212678
send them an email
>>48213137
Disregard fine asshair.
>>48213137
> fine-ass hair
> fine ass-hair
hyphens are important.
>>48212169
Hmm, you're right, I just posted the nlink without looking around. He's rearranged things a bit and prices are somewhat higher. I bought a couple junked cars for an aborted 28mm Fallout project a few years ago and I think they were only like $8 or 9 apiece
>plastidip
This stuff better be as good as advertised. I went to 4 different stores before they had the clear stuff
Thinking of getting in to BA hows this for a starting list?
2nd Lieutenant SMG Regular 60
+1 Infantry SMG
Forward Observer SMG Regular 10
+1 Infantry SMG
8 Commando Sections 112
9 Commando Sections 126
8 Commando Sections 112
PIAT Anti-tank team Veteran 52
Light Mortar teams Inexperienced 24
Total: 496
p.s. Did Commandos really wear the red beret in to combat?
>>48215077
>Did Commandos really wear the green beret in to combat
>>48215105
>Were commandos were in the US army?
>>48211230
Bombed out rail yard would make an amazing board.
>>48202800
christ im almost 50. I was born in the 60's. how the fuck do you think i feel.
>>48206993
I never did the GW thing. Started on Flames of War and went from there.
>>48207504
Do true 20mm figures even exist?
>>48216364
At least youre inspiring the next generation to pick up ASL
>>48215077
>p.s. Did Commandos really wear the red beret in to combat?
Well you could but it wasn't a smart move
>>48215174
Royal Marines wear green berets. Paras wear red.
Does WAB use individual figure removal?
>>48205404
>>48205428
That's good to know, thanks for that.
>>48213915
You won't be disappointed.
>>48218308
Yeah, metal stuffs, older Airfix minis and maybe the Matchbox figures are around that.
>>48220714
Yes.
>>48215077
That's fine. But I would try to get a sniper them in there because snipers are imba as fuck.
also: Commandos wore green. Red is Airborne.
>>48215077
Having a regular officer leading veteran infantry is pretty cheesy desu. The inex mortar too. But if your opponents are fine with it or field similar things, then its ok i guess.
I prefer more fluffy lists in BA, and luckily so do my regular gaming partners.
>>48221684
Where did you buy the stowage stuff? Is that the warlord set?
>>48193296
The Romans wore it on the right side and drew it in a weird way so that they could do it without bumping into their shields, so it was done that way at least sometimes. I don't know how it was done in the medieval period or later.
>>48221786
Rubicon and Warlord
Proof that /hwg/ has the best anons - thanks pal!
>>48204880
Yeah I remember seeing the bosnian war on TV as a kid. My grandpa was very interested in it but that conflict was way over my head for an 8 year old
>>48207519
Yeah I always thought 1/72 was 20mm. Becomes kind of a cluster fuck when you have "figure scale" which varies between manufacturers. 1:72 is closest to 23mm, so fits well with 20mm or 25mm
>>48221972
>Chi Ha
>JS-2
>Jungle-ish looking terrain
For different projects or are you going to be gaming the soviet invasion of manchuria at the end of WW2?
>>48222179
>For different projects or are you going to be gaming the soviet invasion of manchuria at the end of WW2?
A kind anon asked if I wanted his 1:72 stuffs for the price of postage one or two threads ago, and they arrived now.
I have stuffs for Burma (fucktons of ANZAC and Japs, with three Chi-Has and no Allied tanks for now), plus some for late-war Europe (couple of IS-2s, T-34s, etc.), so yeah, different projects. Right now I want to finish two armies for Normandy (at least), and do a different theatre, or some moderns.
>>48222179
All i remember from the bosnian conflict are reports of snipers aiming at people in the streets. In my 10-year-old head that sounded amazing somehow. I probably was a strange child
Anyone know what railway scale would translate best to 15mm? Need some civilians and such...
>>48221972
Glad it arrived that fast. I hope everything is still in one piece.
>>48222267
TT Scale is very close. N Scale is 12.5mm so also pretty close. I love this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scale_model_sizes
>>48222273
Yeah, everything's in one piece, thanks. They'll need some true love and care, but that's true for most of my collection.
>>48222267
H0 is roughly equivalent to large 15mm
>>48222294
H0 is supposed to be 1:87 i think.
>>48222281
>>48222294
Thank you
>>48221972
>>48222273
W-we're a family?
So i started painting some germans and I realise the 10 american squads ive already painted are dogshit in comparison. What should I do, since I cant really fix them.
Leave them and just paint the next americans better?
Or scrap them?
>>48222327
Repaint them, or keep them to know where you've started from.
>>48222327
Can't you touch them up a little to match your new skill?
If they are metal you can drop them in acetone and strip the paint off.
>>48222301
Yeah, sorry, that was 18mm eye height I was looking at. TT wpuld probably be close then, shame it wasn't particularly successful.
>>48222337
I considered stripping them but theyre 3mm so itd be hard.
And the issue is theyre kinda overpainted for the newer better technique.
>>48222333
The later might be the best bet.
>>48222357
if its metal, simply drop them into acetone or any kind of stronger liquid. It will literally eat the paint away. (and the miniature if its plastic). Be careful with this stuff.
Hey I was doing some research for some world building and I figure you guys might be able to help.
During the ww1 era of naval combat about how many people did it take to man a gun battery or ship's cannon? Everything I've found on the topic seems to be about age of sail cannon crews, and I know a lot changed especially with automation and machinery between eras.
>>48222641
"According to the "Gunnery Drill Book for His Majesty's Fleet. Book I. 1913", the crew for the 12"/50 turret Mark XI mounting, including magazine and shell-room parties, was 49, plus officers. The number for the Mark X mountings would appear to be the same."
"Turret crew of 2 Gun Layers, 1 Trainer, 4 Sight Setters, Second Captain of Turret, two guns' crews of 5 men each. Magazine Crew of a leading hand and 12 men. Shell-Room crew of a leading hand and 12 men. Control Party of 5 daymen. And an Officer of Quarters as well. And possibly an assistant turret officer on top."
This page says each turret on the warspite had 70 crew: (see "Operating The 15" Gun")
http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/guides/Warspite
>>48222971
You know, I figured the size and complexity of it all would increase the numbers a bit, but that was significantly more than I anticipated.
Thanks for your time.
>>48223035
Large shells and multipiece ammunition are both no joke. Not sure what they had in the way of ammunition hoists and rams and such that WWII ships had. Secondaries are obviously gonna be quite a bit less.
>>48223035
Yeah I learned a bit there too. Jesus Christ what a huge process. I guess this is "modern" battleships with electricity and huge industry to produce them, we expect a bit of complexity. But yeah, that loading and firing process has a LOT of steps and requires a lot of people heh
Are hex and counters /hwg/?
>>48224198
Very much.
>>48224207
Do you know of any_fun__print-and-playable 2p hex and counter games? Preferred themes: ancient/medieval China, WW1, WW2
t. poornewfag
>>48224324
Check the Strategy and Tactics magazines in the OP folders. They usually have a hex and chit game included, should be able to print and play assuming the maps are there.
>>48224492
Will do, matey
>>48224324
Also, there are few geeklists on BGG that deal in historical print&play wargames, most of them indeed hex and counter.
But yes, ol' good S&T is best choice.
>>48224572
Also take a look at the Avalon Hill, GDW and SPI folders which are in the OP as well.
>>48222250
>In my 10-year-old head that sounded amazing somehow. I probably was a strange child
I remember being 12 when the Berlin Wall came down and communism fell, and in my stupid childish way I actually felt disappointed that the massive WW3 I had been waiting for was now never going to happen. Panama and the Gulf War felt like damp squibs after that.
>>48225480
When I first overheard the news about 9/11 I thought a videogame plot.
There was a pic posted a couple weeks ago comparing different mixes of static grass. Did anyone save it?
>>48219570
speaking of which I do need to get a game of ASL in here. been a couple of months since ive got a game in.
and I should do an AAR on here. been a while since ive done one
>>48220714
>>48213002
WAB is just warhammer fantasy (forget which edition, 4th?) without magic and monsters etc.
It works fine and is a good transition if all you know is warhammer, but specifically-designed rules sets are better able to portray historical themes/ nuances.
>>48227258
Meh, I'd say it has enough to have its own thing going. I got it for 10 entire pounds so I don't really regret buying it, plus it has the same benefit as Bolt Action - others in the club are familiar with the system, thus I can convince them easier to play with me.
guy with somewhat decent knowledge of history here. i want to get into historical wargaming. what do
>>48227853
Well, first of all you might wish to narrow it down a bit. What part of history?
>>48227877
i really like pre-gunpowder warfare. especially medieval and grecoroman
>>48227926
Next question; what scale?
>>48227994
i prefer strategy instead of tactics, but stuff like sieges and battles still interest me
Could someone suggest a simple and fun scenario to play w. 28mm miniatures? Preferred ruleset BA. I would like to see some British airborne infantry assault a small village. Perhaps Germans defending an outlook post consisting of 2 houses? I want to avoid vehicles and too many shitty complications like snipers and tanks. Just a cool shoot-out between two forces
Plenty of scenery available including an entire town (10 buildings + church) and a bunch of bunkers.
Will provide pics Wednesday.
>>48228405
check "Battlefield Europe" (see OP)
there are lot's of scenarios which can be easily adapted from US 101st to Red Devils.
there are Arnhem scenarios too, which explicitly forbid the use of vehicles iirc.
what are some good rules for the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s?
AK-47 seems to be on the right sort of scale? Although a smaller scale might also fit
>>48228405
Sounds like you've designed half of it already, why not finish the job?
I got a 10GBP coupon from Warlord Games. Do you guys know if that code is bound to my name or can i post it here for someone else to use? I dont need anything from Warlord right now and it is only working during July.
>>48230040
you can buy them as gifts so I don't see why they would be non-transferable
>>48230085
In that case: JULY10-desbd572
Only usable for 1 item above 10 pounds.
>>48228788
You could try Danger Close or Skirmish Sangin
Interesting period, wish there was a dedicated ruleset for it. Quite difficult to wargame I imagine, as with any modern conflict set largely in dense cities.
I tried to run a Bosnia game using Traveller, squad of 4 guys with flak jackets that effectively did nothing against the average AK round.
>>48230172
Damn! Thanks mate! That finally made me buy the Japanese Type 91 105 mm Howitzer I always wanted.
>>48230172
Was gonna use it to buy some Perry Miniatures Mercenaries but it wouldn't let me.
You're a top guy for putting that up though.
>>48230413
Maybe >>48230395 was faster?
>>48230473
Nah, I put some Pike and Shotte stuff in and it gave me the discount for those, but I didn't really want that stuff and I figured another anon could use the code more than me
>>48230413
I just checked. It has to be a Warlord Product.
>>48230574
The code is limited to one use per customer, not to one use at all.
>>48228788
Here're some pics for you
http://toomuchlead.blogspot.com/search/label/Yugoslavian%20Wars
>>48230611
>>48230708
Ah ok, I might actually order some then.
Cheers!
Regarding Pike and Shotte, any impressions of the models?
>>48230938
They sure are models.
I wish they were smaller.
>>48231104
>They sure are models.
Hah, indeed.
Quality wise though, what do you think? They certainly look good there.
>>48230708
Is there anything that stops me from ordering something for 5 pounds and getting away with 5 pound shipment? Just out of curiosity, I'm probably going in for more anyway.
>>48231159
They do the job.
Not spectacular, not much variety, hat options are a bit crap, had to file down a lot of the brims to make them loot more natural and less like Captain Scarlet's, and ended up mixing them with Perry figures just to have something more fun to paint.
Image here is my opponent's, no mixed stuff in. Honestly most of the good comes from his skill and ability rather than the miniatures.
>>48225480
>Berlin Wall came down and communism fell
>felt disappointed
Here's one for ya
>Be me born in 1976
>Hit the 80's at 4 years old
>Time of Bald Eagles eating apple pies and shitting freedom
>Regan telling the commie basters to "come at me bro"
>tv/movies full of murica fuck ya military/spy flicks
>GI Joe franchise everywhere
>Running around the neighborhood with other kids with an arsenal of toy guns
>Looking forward to getting into the Army
>8th grade Berlin Wall came down....ok
>8th grade Gulf war only lasted 100 hour....hold on
>Hit high school Soviet Union disappears like a fart in the wind....the fuck
>Army deactivating around 8 Divisions and shedding personnel
>Finally old enough to get in the Army
>Join and find out there's officially no enemy to be found
>The 90's was the era of the "what now" military
Much disappointment I had
>>48231642
>They do the job.
>Image here is my opponent's, no mixed stuff in. Honestly most of the good comes from his skill and ability rather than the miniatures.
Thank you. That does it, will buy a couple and have a look myself!
FUCK, my table is only 6x3'
Does this mean I cant play 28mm at all?
>>48231772
The average table is 6' X 4' so you're close enough. just missing 12"
>>48231772
I am sorry anon, due to being unable to conform to the standardized wargaming table size regulations of 1982 you are to be confined to only playing boardgames until you can rectify the situation.
>>48231772
Get three wood sheets that are 2'x4' each, use that over your existing table to have modular wargamming terrain, and the correct size board for whatever game you are playing.
>>48231772
Or play longways. Have a couple lines of defenses one side has to break through.
Anyone know of a good rule-set for Sengoku era Japan? I want to run a game of "Legend of the Five Rings" where mass battles have a lot of play-time (as opposed to the usual lack of them), and I want to actually give the players some choice in how things go in the field. I'll be making modifications to fit the system of course, but are there any good contenders?
Photographing 3mm is hard, especially when youre a shitty photographer.
Germans tho
>>48232831
How many of those guys do you have to do?
>>48233523
Currently like 30-40 bases for each faction. + leaders, tanks and guns
