There's a lot of "/tg/ rolls up a Space Marine Chapter" threads that pop up, and while they're fun, there's a shit ton of Chapters that have next to no fluff already in the canon. So I thought it might be fun to fluff some of these chapters out. Its a good place to kick around those half-baked ideas you've had for a chapter, or if you want to come up with something new. Hell, you could even use the tables to quickly get some ground fluff out if you want. A good number of these Chapters are literally just a name with nothing attached, so there's plenty of room for creativity!
So, we could roll for what chapter we fluff on a list I made, or just choose based on color scheme/name, and fluff accordingly. I figured a good guide-line for what to write about them would be:
>Origins
>demeanor/culture/beliefs
>combat doctrine
>strength
>enemies
While I think it would be fun to work on a chapter as a thread up to the point that we feel its fleshed out, there's nothing stopping you from posting an idea of your own for a different chapter.
>>47647866
I thought a good chapter to start with would be the Golden Halos, since they have a pretty okay color scheme, and just enough background to work around. Here's basically all that's known about them:
>The Golden Halos' banner has flown above many a battlefield. Most notably it witnessed the Chapter's victories at Kistvaen, Podzul and the decade-long Siege of Nectocalyx, which was more commonly known as "The Meatgrinder."
>Their motto Ex Ungue Leonem ("Judge the lion by his claws") reveals their proud martial tradition.
So they're canonical badasses with a long history of military achievements. I feel like being a fleet based chapter would work for these guys
Here's the list of chapters that I compiled, if anyone's interested. I know its a lot (193, I think), but I'm by no means saying we should do all of them. Just whatever anyone feels like
>>47647936
>shameful Samefagging
Since they are said to be in numerous battles, and seem to be well venerated, maybe second or third founding would work for them. Doing generic space knights doesn't seem very fun, could be something like a mix between Papal Zouaves and French Foreign Legion, since, as a fleet based chapter, they would have to recruit from all over to maintain their ranks?
If we do go with fleet based, we could have them like the black templars, where they're technically on a crusade, so they can have more than the standard thousand marines, although it wouldn't be by much. Maybe 2000?
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>"Angel": 16 times
>"Crimson": 9 times
>"Emperor": 8 times
>"Imperial": 6 times
>"Red": 7 times
There's no escape.
>>47650004
I don't think anyone's surprised by GW's lack of creativity. There's also all the Angels that already have a decent amount of stuff written about them. I think its around 30 in total
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>no rainbow warriors
>>47647980
Widowmakers sound fun, I made Tormentors into my personal army when there was a similar thread to this one, I'll eventually make a Kill Team to represent them on the table.
>>47651113
All that's known about the widowmakers is that they fought in the war on Armageddon
They have a really ignoble name, so I'd imagine they're pretty cynical, as far as chapters go. Closer to space wolves and storm wardens in personality.
>>47651201
Or they're a bunch of miserable bastards with no illusions about what they do.
Grim and dour and self-loathing and full of cold hate. For themselves and the rest of the Adeptus Astartes who laugh about their work like they are big damn heroes.
No astrtes is a good man.
They dream of obsolescence.
>>47651259
I think it would be a nice break in the pomp and circumstance all the fucking chapters seem to have. One chapter that has at least an amount of self awareness
>>47649725
These guys already have fluff. They're Raven Guard who like dakka more than stealth.
>>47651259
So they're similar to Marines Malevolent except without being poor as balls? Sounds nice, it must be the current popularity of overwatch but I cant stop imagining these guys being purple and sniping their targets.
>>47651449
I was just using the Lexicanum, which only has their history, nothing about the culture of the chapter.
Not all of these are 100% fluffless, but I tried to make sure if they did, it was around a paragraph or less
>>47651478
I don't know if they should be massive cocks like malevolents, just disillusioned
>>47650279
Penitents could have a much higher recruitment age as their genetic quirk.
And they recruit from death row and long sentence denizens of the hive worlds.
Sort of the Space Marine equivalent of the Penal Legion.
They fight to earn forgiveness that they know they can never earn because there isn't enough forgiveness for the shit they have done and if there is then it's been sold short.
All they have left is the dream of a beautiful death.
Known for their masochistic rituals, inability to back down and humility. Even going so far as to accept orders from human commanders.
>>47651259
The marines of the Widowmakers are selected, not recruited. The best and brightest are picked to go kill shit so their home planet doesn't have to. A positive mutation in their geneseed allows them to give it to men well into their twenties (muh mary sues), which is seen by the people of the world as bad instead of good because it increases the likelihood that your life will be taken from you so you can go be a Marine until you die.
The whole planet is a bunch of dreary fucks who were basically a penal colony mixed with a bunch of mercenaries and assorted brigands. They are something of a rogue backwater, only really interacting with the Imperium when the tithe comes around (if the adepts remember their world even exists). Even the PDF, Guard and Stormtroopers from this place really just don't like anything.
However, one of the "corrective" measures instituted by the Imperium was an educational program that focused heavily on civic duty. As the world's government has drifted more and more from standard Imperial policy, the other bits have wavered, yet that one has stood firm. Every citizen is a trained PDF soldier. The government has almost never had to draft for the tithe--all of their regiments are volunteers. Despite the massive rates of depression and anxiety among the populace, their suicide rate is among the lowest of all imperial worlds.
Being a Widowmaker, though... that fucking blows. Unlike being in the other branches of the military, where you get to die pretty quickly or come home after like 10 years, when you're a Marine, you're stuck there for a century or two. No coming back for you.
I'm imagining a chapter full of Bronn and Edd clones from Game of Thrones.
>>47651637
Given their pauldrons and their religious implications, self flagellation must be huge for them. Spending hours on their knees in front of an icon of the emperor whipping themselves for theirs and humanities' sins
>>47651689
I like the idea that their homeworld is a penal colony.
Fresh imports are indentured workers. Once their sentence is up, assuming they survive, they are citizens of the shit hole rather than slaves. Yaaay!
Now you don't get a modest meal per day and a place to sleep. Boooooo!
Most citizens of the Shithole are descendants of prisoners rather than ex prisoners due to the high turnover rate of the prisoners.
Main exports, bar the soldiers, marines and mercenary companies, is uranium. The planet has lots of uranium. This is why there are so few ex-prisoners and those that do survive are often irradiated sterile or have undiagnosed cancer.
>>47651836
That's more direct grimdark. I was going for "these guys have this utopian republic where everyone serves together but they all hate life regardless." Like, they have the thing that billions turn renegade or to Chaos for, and they don't even give a fuck.
I do like the indentured servitude, though. Fits thematically. And the uranium (maybe sulfur too, for extra GRIM AND DARK FORTY-FIRST MILLENIUM).
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An interesting twist might be that the Penitents have a problem with their Catalepsean Node that, during their hypno-therapy, they lose memories of their mortal past. This leads to a kind of need for redemption without any real knowledge of what they did. They're constantly fighting for redemption of crimes, and its the Marine's own psychological self doubts that force them onward. Some Marines zealously drive themselves forward believing they had a roster of crimes so heinous and black that there is no real redemption for them other than in death.
>>47647866
That looks like art from a Deathwatch book, but I don't remember it at all. Is it from an FFG product or something GW did which I didn't see him in? Or is it just super high quality fan art?
>>47650349
Chimeric Imperial Fist/Iron Hands geneseed.
>>47654341
They could make up for their geneseed flaws with tech. Sounds kinda cool
>>47651968
They could have something similar to the Guardiens of the Covenant where they inscribe their armor and weapons with texts holy to the Arbites, including the (probably needless long) list of sins and Imperial citizen can commit
>>47652204
I found it on deviant art, so it could be fanart, but I think it's official.
Here's another, just incase. He's an exsanguinator, which don't have a canonical color scheme as far as I know
>>47651963
Well, it would make sense if they're all exslaves and excons/decedent from convicts. Their life is shitty, but so is everybody else's, so let's join up together and try to make things not so shitty however we can. Probably low crime rates (excluding brawl-type violence and some forced slavery), good sense of community, and what I would imagine is a formidable PDF, although I'm picturing this place as pretty small and on some shitty moon/desolate world
>>47647980
The Knights of Dorn have an awesome color scheme.
>>47649990
Aren't these the Space Marines that got lost in the warp and are rumoured to be the Legion of the Damned?
>>47656667
I thought that was the Star Scorpians
>>47656634
There are some really good schemes tucked away in all these chapters
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>>47651637
How's power flail for special chapter weapon?
Also, maybe instead of death row adults, they can use incarcerated child delinquents? Imperium's gotta do something with them
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>>47656706
Pretty sure that was the flame falcons. Astral Claws became the Red Corsairs, maybe that's what your thinking of?
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>>47656957
Fire Hawks you mongrels, Fire Hawks.
>>47647980
The Dictators are Iron Hands descendants who force their "flesh is weak" motif on the planetary populace in the typical grimdark fashion. Whole worlds populations are converted in what amounts to little more than a planet of servitors and servo skulls. Needless to say they aren't liked very much by the Guard or other Marine chapters, however they have good relations with some of the more Puritan members of the Mechinicus due to both their devotion to the Ommnisiah (some would say to the point of placing it above the Emperor), and because they provide them with millions of newely minted servitors as cheap labor after each conquest.
>>47657020
Right. Flame Falcons are just constantly on fire which implies and they may also be related to those constantly on fire guys who keep showing up out of no where and saving the day.
>>47657043
I'd imagine their chapter specialty would be fielding more techmarines. They could alternatively rely heavily on combat servitors, being an understrength chapter who make up for it with hordes of servos mounted with bolters
>>47657148
Of course, they'd be well within the Mechicums good graces to have plenty of Tech Marines within the Chapter. They'd recruit from Mechanicus Forge worlds that they visit to resupply and sell off their servitor "stock" to unscrupulous Magos'. Some would say they're a little too comfey with the Mechanicus, and much anger has been directed their way by more honorable chapters for their profiteering and the "slave trade" they help perpetuate of unwilling converts to Serivtorhood.
They would much rather go halfway across the Galaxy to defend a forge world than to defend and Agri-world just 2 sectors away...unless they have room in the shop for more "goods". of course.
>>47657286
Also they'd be fleet based, operating in more wild regions of the Galaxy. seeking to crush worlds that rebel against the Imperium in order to bring them back into the fold, this time with no possibility of rebellion.
>>47657384
I don't know how I feel about fleet based. Seems like these guys would LOVE to get into the nitty gritty of running a totalitarian military state.
>>47657423
Well, I suppose they could have a world or too that they come back to. Maybe it's a part of their own realm and they collect their own tithe of people to "convert" every so often? It would have its own planetary governor when they're gone, but it's de facto controlled by the Dictators.
>>47656738
Emperor's Shadows would be a pain in the ass, but they're so pretty.
>>47657467
What do you think for colors? I was thinking red, yellow, and black
>>47657467
The world would basically be an imperial world run like a 1984-esque dystopia. People would live their lives in fear that they next will be taken, but believe that if they work hard enough that they, somehow, might be spared from the wrath of their unforgiving masters once they come again. The Dictator marines themselves hold absolute authority and control over the populace, their word is law. Despite all this, the populace love the Dictators, seeing them as their guardians who thousands of years past freed them from the clutches of Chaos. Any price, be it their infant sons or their spouse, is seen by them as being insufficient enough to repay the marines for their protection. The Dictators, of course, are more than happy with this arrangement.
>>47657582
Sounds perfect. Their logo should be eerily similar to that of a fasces in my opinion, maybe with a Power Axe or a Hammer representing the Mechanicus.
>>47657630
Most certainly not the most original color scheme, but I gave it a shot.
>>47656594
Yeah, definitely a shit planet or moon. What planet would they be from? Maybe just some nameless, numbered imperial designation?
J10-2M5?
Sector initial: J
System: 10
Planet: 2
Moon: 5
Paint scheme ideas?
>>47658208
Orange, grey, burgundy?
>>47658244
Er, we could always roll? I don't see that color scheme working out at all
Just use whatever comes up
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>>47658343
I'd like to fluff out the Guardians of the Covenant more, but they actually have a surprisingly decent amount of lore for a background successor chapter. Only thing I can think of that could use some elaboration in regards to them is their homeworld, which I imagine as being a fairly typical feudal world. Although, I don't know why, I can't help but imagine it having some Eastern European themes, despite the chapter itself having a more Western aesthetic. Maybe it's just because I'm sick of "Generic Western European World XIV."
I also feel like they'd have an unusual amount of archaeotech due to:
>Successors of the Dark Angels
>Their mission to gather and maintain lost lore
>Being out in the middle of virtually unexplored space allows them to have first dibs on lost human tech
>>47647866
well I've played Black Templars for about 15 years, and over the years the warhammer artwork and the warhammer models in general have gotten a lot better. about 4 years ago I completely redid my army from when I was a kid and gave it a more refined look. I bought a bunch of dark angel veterans and converted them with templar bits to make robed templars, which I thought looks pretty cool. Now that im getting back into the game and painting my army up they're coming out very nicely, but I couldn't help but notice how similar the sister of battle look to the templars.
So I thought it would be cool to make my own custom chapter of templars/sisters and go for a medieval chapel/monastery vibe. Once I get the brothers painted up ill try my hand at making the sisters look a little more nun-ish, then write some custom lore for my crusade. Haven't thought of a name for them yet and I'd need to justify why they work together as one army, but thats all part of the fun.
now for chapters that don't have any lore existing I think the Twilight Swords sound pretty cool. all thats described about them is that they gain rank through honour duels and prefer 1 on 1 combat over any advanced tactical plans.
as far as anything else goes they are completely unknown, don't even have a colour scheme.
off the top of my head im thinking a dark blue lightning pattern over black armour would look cool.
>>47658454
Those guys are my favorite chapter I think. I remember that they stay in their fuckhuge cathedral on their homeworld, so I'd imagine they entire planet theocratic, ruled by monks and their hierarchies, with everyone being reclusive and self governed. And everyone would take a pilgrimage at some point in their life just to look at the cathedral
>>47658476
your chapter could have lost a lot of men fighting to save a sister's shrine world, and decided to make it a dual homeworld to commemorate their victory together and faith in the emperor, or some shit
Twilight Swords sounds badass, I'll think of some stuff while I'm trying to fall asleep
>>47658454
Theres a a lot of fanfic backstory on them on some obscure blog. It's pretty well written, to be honest: guardiansotc.blogspot.com
The writer has them partake in a Practicum and a Theoreticum, the former being martial sills and the latter being arts and science related.
>>47658619
pretty good idea, and similar to the one I had partially cooked up. I originally wanted my templars to be a spin off of the templars that fought at helsreach, reading the story again I see there were also sisters of battle at helsreach, so I think I have my event that brought them together.
>>47658378
Not bad, pretty good option
>>47658476
There's some cool Indonesian/Filipino dueling traditions that involve invoking one's ancestors into their machete's blade to get their vengeance, and summoning their gods to inhabit their weapon to ensure justice was met not at the wills of mortals.
It also sounds like these guys have very loose structure, so I'd imagine they're mostly a chapter that relies on strict hierarchy to stay in line. We could take an Asian influence to build off of to continue on with the above theme. The first thing that comes to my mind is Japan, could base the chapter of some pseudo-ryukyuan culture.
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>>47656738
I'm (slowly) building a force of Knights of Blood. The minimal amount of canon infor there is says that they're a crusading Blood Angels successor who have been excessively bloodthirsty and wound up being declared renegades.
As far as my take on the matter goes, there are a dwindling number of aged veterans and dreadnoughts who comprise the leadership of the chapter, and who consider themselves honourable servants of the Emperor. They want the chapter to redeem itself and continue the crusade in order to atone for past misdeeds. The problem they're having is that new recruits are falling increasingly speedily to the red thirst and black rage, and that the younger members of the chapter are increasingly enamoured with war for war's sake. Heavy attrition and a need to keep on the move to avoid Imperial entanglements causes them to recruit large numbers of aspirants at a rapid pace from worlds they visit. These aspirants form an auxiliary force, which the strongest survivors are drawn from for induction into the chapter. This whole process has created a death-cult of sorts among the auxiliaries and newer troops, one which the chapter elders are blind to, whether by ignorance or denial. Unbeknownst to them, the lower levels of the chapter are verging on the Khornate, and for some of the death company in the depths of the black rage it is not visions of Sanguinius that they see, but the blood god instead.
I really want fluff for the Terror Tigers.
http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Terror_Tigers
Their Chapter Master commits suicide because he lost a fourth of his marines defending his planet from an invasion by a mutant warlord. And that's pretty much all she wrote.
Wot?
>>47660091
I was looking at them too!
I'm saying cyberpunk marines
>>47660043
I really like this idea, a chapter with a few morally worthwhile marines trying desperately to stop everyone from turning into huge peices of shit that they're eager to be. A delicate race against the clock to preserve their army without messing everything up. Have anything painted? I'm curious to see how that silver and red works out
>>47650146
I always like the name and emblem of these guys, I think it's cool
>>47657849
I love it. Thanks a lot anon
>>47661028
There's a story about the Angels Penitent that is about this exact thing. The chapter was introduced to new "methods" of controlling the Red Thirst, but only a handful of marines in the chapter realize that they're complete bullshit and are instead dooming the chapter to chaos.
The Blood Drinkers are going through a similar problem with the Rite of Holos but theirs has been a much more gradual descent.
>>47650004
We should do a new chapter: The "Crimson Red Angels of the Imperial Emperor."
>>47661028
Forgive the poor picture quality, here's some of the ones I'm a bit further along with.
>>47661601
I see it less as an attempt to control the red thirst, and more that instead of taking the care over recruitment and the spiritual welfare of their marines, the chapter veterans have prioritised keeping their numbers up so that they can try to crusade and win back a place in the Imperium. The idea is that that approach is eroding what remains of the chapter's more noble traditions and leading them ever further in the wrong direction.
>>47662219
That's some high quality painting, my man. I'm really digging that contemptor
>>47661494
Sucks about this chapter being dissolved, this is a really nice shade of orange, which is pretty under represented in the Space Marines
>>47658454
Guardians of the Covenant are my pet chapter actually. One thing that strikes me about them is their focus on knowledge and learning. I would think the chapter would have a large emphasis on their Librarius given this focus. Would it make sense to blend the Librarius with highr ranks of the chapter or even have a Librarian Chapter master? Or would that be too mary sue?
>>47647980
I've got an idea for the Halo Brethren:
>The Halo Brethren have a fucked up geneseed that takes a lot longer to be fully accepted into a neophyte's body, meaning they can't replenish their forces as quickly as other chapters. The Chapter got fucked over a lot harder than the Fists or the Sable Swords when they went to kill the Grand Master of the Assassin's, signifying the beginning of their downfall. Several key battles they took part in afterwards, victory or defeat, they lost many battle-brothers, leaving them at ~200 left. To mitigate their lack of manpower, they use highly battle serfs as auxiliaries along side their marines, as well as having two companies of Scouts, so as to have a constant stream of marines coming in. The battle serfs would be trained under members of the veteran scout and select few marines to make sure the serfs are battle-ready and well versed in marine tactics.
>The marines proper of their chapter spend most of their time in brutally intensive training on their homeworld to ensure their survival and effectiveness. The marines are incredibly skilled to make up for the fact that they'd essentially be deploying on a battlefield by themselves. As a result of the time, training, and diminished numbers of the marines, each marine is considered highly sacred, with the preservation of their battle-brothers being of the highest priority, both for marines and serfs. Serfs more often give their lives to put themselves in between a bullet and their angels, and the peasants of their home-world are raised in worship of their protectors, so they have no shortage of serfs. They are not above retreat to minimize casualties.
>Because of their uncommon structure, use of normal humans in battle, and self preserving nature, they are treated with little regard among their peers, despite the combat prowess of each individual marine.
Could use some refining, but that's what I came up with
>>47662870
I tried my hand at a color scheme. Anyone know the one sight that has all the gear and different MK armors and all that stuff?
>>47661472
That's some real shitty photoshop
>>47650146
>Family of males sharing a common parent numbering 1000
>Their symbol is a big M
Blood Ravens have a successor chapter?
>>47662818
Or it could just mean that each brother is a warrior-scholar.
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>>47662818
Yeah, they're probably my favorite as well. I think it's because of they're kick-ass aesthetic combined with them apparently being the only Dark Angels successor that doesn't have a stupidly single-minded obsession with the Fallen.
I also dig their drove to preserve knowledge and seemingly being more caring of the average citizen than their brother chapters.
>>47658684
That's pretty cool. I know what I'm reading this afternoon.
>>47662818
Also, I agree with you on the larger Librarian emphasis. Maybe not leading the chapter, but likely having greater significance at least.
>>47663829
This
>>47650232
Celestial Lion brother chapter/successors?
>>47650074
We had a thread like this a while ago, only thing I remember was that the Auric Patricians were either loyalist ECs, or used their gene-seed.
Their homeplanet was that of a Paradise world, iirc, and they recruited from the best and brightest children on the planet, they also owned quite the amount of relics and such, which fit their name.
Can't remember mch about it really, maybe if the anon that wrote it up shows up.
>>47668835
This the thread? http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/46769564/#46769564
I was planning, if enough of these got decently fluffed, I'd make a "misc marine chapters" or a better name page on 1d4chan and dump these guys there
>>47669110
Indeed! Thanks for the find, anon!
That sounds like a plan, I'd love to help and try and fluff, though I fear I'd be no good at it.
>>47669181
There's ideas already thrown out there that you could help refine. I don't think any of them have a battle cry
Even a simple idea for a chapter is cool
>>47657630
Yo, how's "Strength through Unity" for the battlecry
>>47670479
That sounds good actually. I'd be an ironic twist on the fact that they treat all non-augmented humans like shit. "For the Omnissiah" would also be quite popular, and if they're fighting civilians "We will take you!" To scare the shit out of them.
There doctrine would revolve around 1.Lots of Techmarines and heavy weapons 2. Hordes of easily disposable combat servitors 3. Terror tactics in order to slowely wittle down the enemy while they themselves take minimal losses.
>>47665926
How would that work? The best I can say is that it was a chapter that was headed by a former member of the celestial lions after they got got. Since the BTs took them in, I'd say they'd be half Templar half Lion in doctrine and stuff. They'd have the pseudo-African culture with Black Templar structure.
>>47661472
>a Member of this chapter later on.
>>47662870
I dunno, if I was going to do a chapter that was primarily battle serfs, I'd have around 150 -100 marines, instead of 200, but that's just me being an asshole. Its an okay idea, I'd amp up the self preservation though. Make them treat humans like shit, and are constantly on the look out for new advantages and ways to better their chapter. Since these guys seem to do everything slowly, have them meditate often, and generally be pretty scholarly.
>>47663257
I dunno, when I hear "Halo Brethren", I think gold. Something like the Sanguinary Guard
>>47661481
Yellow Jackets?
>>47673715
Yes.
>>47673377
Jesus, Stormcast are the worst
>>47647980
The Death Knights have a decent color scheme, might as well give them some love:
They're an Ultramarines descendant chapter founded late in the 38M as a crusading chapter tasked with taking back an important Imperial sector recently conquered by the Orks. Upon arrival however, they found that the Human populace are, oddly enough, content with the Orks, even fighting along side them against the Marines. It turns out this was because the sector had grown to resent the Imperium for its heavy taxation of its agriculture over the years, and the Orkish invasion provided just the catalyst they needed to declare their independence from the wider imperium. The Chapter, made up of ex Ultramarines, realized that it now needed to abandon some of the more revered portions of the codex Astartes in favor of more subversive measures, including using my spy's and assassins to dispatch the Orkish and rebel leadership
Slowely but surely, the Death Guard managed to subjugate these worlds and drive out most of the remainder of the Orks.
They struck a deal with the Inquisition that, rather than subject these worlds populace to purges, that they would allow the Death Guard to control them directly to use as both recruiting worlds and, if they were ever to rebel against the imperium again, as "target practice" for the Chapter. So the Death Guard now control these worlds, hated by the populace, and regularly come down to kidnap potential Astartes candidates from their parents during the night, dressed in black robes and axting silently lest they cause a mob to form.
In battle, they rely on a larger than average contingent of Scout squads, most often trained as snipers and in the art of stealth, which tactics they continue to emulate upon becoming full-fledged battle brothers. Bolt-silencers are almost universal throughout the chapter, and the importance of the use of a knife in CQC so as to eject minimum amounts of ammunition is paramount to their doctrine.
>>47674541
>Death Guard
God I'm an idiot. Anyway, they would basically be assassin marines who are extreamly well suited towards picking off the Enemy High command. They wouldn't be well liked by many of the other chapters who view them as cowards, but they could care less.
Also they'd be under strength after a failed crusade against an Eldar Craftworld.
>>47649990
I was about to say "weren't these the guys that got on the wrong side in the Badab War" and then I saw >>47656957 and >>47657020
Blasted Space Marines and their all-too similar names...
>>47674541
>>47674577
That sounds fucking badass.
The elder thing could be that they were out sneaked by them and this pisses them right off.
In the cultures and folk lore of the locals the chapter could play the part of devils,
>>47674541
So they operate like the Assasinorum? Neat
Anyone remember the Sanguine shields and their massive cluster fuck? I still love them and kinda sad that we didn't get around to updating the wiki
>>47651201
>space wolves
>cynical
Space Wolves are bro tier guys who like to boast, drink and kill shit dead. They're anything but cynical
>>47671996
Problem is there is no time for that to happen. As of 999.M41, the Celestial Lions have been rebuilding for, at most, 1 year.
>>47675568
I gave the wiki a shot, and it's fucked, man. I'll probably try again later. Wish people saved the threads
>>47676383
Damn it, I was kinda liking that idea.
I guess you could have be a just newly formed chapter? I dunno
>>47675568
It was a cool idea (with awesome art) but I dropped out when one or two anons kept forcing overt OC Donut Steel stuff.
Also, the special chapter naming conventions got way out of hand.
>>47677566
I was pretty into it for a time. But that guy who obsessed over making everything historically accurate Macedonian was just ridiculous.
>>47675204
They would basically be viewed as a curse placed upon them by the imperium as punishment. A silent unstoppable force that comes in the night to snatch their children from them, turning them into emotionless warriors stripped of their former personalities.
>>47675443
Pretty much. They're shtick would be that they would train based around operating deep within enemy territory, cut off from all supplies and where every bullet expended must be done in a way that maximizes the damage done with the resources available to them. Theyre the kind of force that would know how to create makeshift bombs with Grox shit and Recaf.
What do you guys think about a 1d4chan page, if we get a few more of these guys fluffed?
>>47677927
It might just be my autism instincts flaring, but they look extreamly sueish.
>>47677584
It's something I've noticed with /tg/ projects like that: you end up getting a few anons that see it as THEIR project and not a community effort, and they start shutting out anyone that isn't them or part of their inner circle. Then you get the Knights Inductor and their clusterfuck of a sector.
>>47677927
I would approve of a 1d4chan page. Even if it was just for future reference for individual use, it would be a fun small project that wouldn't need too much oversight, considering non-of it is canon in any way.
>>47678239
Hua Yuan and the conservators turned out alright, though
>>47678239
The important thing is to not intertwine the pieces, but rather keep them seperate. With seperate chapter pages just maintained by one or two people who are passionate about them. If they want to turn their chapter into a suefest, that's up to them, as long as they contain it to their fanon page.
>>47678264
Hua Yuan ultimately boiled down to a dozen or so guys bouncing ideas off each other, and even then it had some hiccup moments where shit got ridiculous.
The thing is, when you have that many people working on something, ideas conflict as to what it should be about, and not everyone is going to agree. The /tg/ Heresy was one of the worst examples of this recently, where people kept leaving and core ideas and characters remained half baked and unfulfilled while we got whole threads dedicated to jerking off Hector as Space Alexander the Great.
>>47678360
>Recently
Those threads ended a year ago man.
The problem is they just had Hektor as a clear-cut replacement for Horus.
There wasn't much that could've been done.
>>47678496
They're still going on, just via Skype because OP couldn't take the autism anymore
Also
>Year ago
>Not recent
Fucking younglings I swear.
>>47678583
>they're still going on, just via Skype
Jesus
>>47678600
Yup, they replaced 30% of the primarchs too. Some of them don't even have backstory beyond a brief description
>>47678702
Have they been updating the stuff somewhere? Or are you a part of the skype group?
>>47678747
I'm not, they stated it in one of the last threads that they'd continue on Skype and occasionally update the 1d4chan page. Most recent thing they expanded on was the Yaotl and various Xenos races.
On a semi-related tangent, the drawfag who does all the portraits is fucking amazing. He was 90% of the reason I followed that shit for so long.
>>47677401
They'd be around at best a handful of months
Live.
>>47684767
Marines Errant have fluff, don't they?
>>47685360
Yeah, they're a fleet based chapter vaguely like 18th century marines. They kinda float around and fuck things up, and I'm pretty sure they went exploring around ghoul stars with a rouge trader house.
>>47656634
No this is the colorscheme
>>47685842
Nah mate, >>47656634 is the most recent color scheme. The one you posted is the old one.
Honestly, I like both, but I like the mewer one better. The newer one looks cooler, whike the older one looks like Ice-Cream marines. Not that that's a bad thing, mind you, I just can't take it seriously.
>>47674608
Well, as >>47650004 pointed out, Gee Dubs isn't the most creative company out there
>>47657083
There's still the theory that the LoD are the Imperium's version of Daemons
>>47647980
There's chapters allied with the Mechanicus and Inquisition and stuff, but I don't know any that work closely with the Adeptus Arbites! Persecutors of Darkness are stalwart marines whose specialty is dealing with the Imperium's most disgusting foe: High Traitors and the obscenely corrupt. They root out Heresy throughout the Segmentum Pacificus before it can fully rear its ugly head. While the consequences for treachery is sift and brutal, the chapter's definition is ranges greatly. Those that obstruct the Imperium in its holy endeavors is a traitor deserving of death. In this, they work closely with the Adeptus Astartes, inform the chapter on criminals too large for them to properly handle.
A Dark Angel successor founded in 33M, they inhabit the world of Ius, a medieval urban world with sprawling concreate mega-cities, ruled by an iron fist. Their Fortress Monastery of Raus towers over the planet's capital, where intensive study of the Law occurs inside its brutalist halls. The planet's Enforcers directly answer to the marines of Ius, acting as both a PDF and police force. Outside of the culturally primitive Mega-Cities lies only farmlands and red-grass plains, with the occasional nomad tribe forever roaming.
Each marine is well versed in the Imperium's Law, and trained in the tight alleys and crowded streets of their homeworld. The Marines are experts in cramped environments, being urban and hiveworld specialists. Combat shotguns are just as common as bolters in the chapter, and power mauls coupled with large combat shields are chapter favorite. Veteran squads even employ cyber-mastiffs
That's all I got. I figured they'd have a similar color scheme to Arbites, though. Please, use this idea however!
>>47663257
Why not do the inverse of >>47647936
Gold and black
>>47687322
Living saints are imperial daemons
>>47687971
Daemons in the sack.
>>47647980
Created partially using the chapter creation tables.
The Marines Errantor are a renegade chapter of Imperial fists stock, founded in Millenium 35, who harbor a longstanding grudge with the Black Templars after coming to blows with them over the fate of the unknowing families of a Chaos cult, with the Templars demanding that they be purged while the Marines Errantor insisting that they be spared.
This altercation lead to the chapter being exiled from the wider imperium for a period of 1000 years at the behest of the Templars. To their shock, the Marines took the ruling with solemn acceptance, and their fleet warped of to the halo stars, not to be seen again until almost 4000 years later, where the clean, well kept armor of the marines had become old and worn, their robes became little more than rags, their hair grown to be mangy and unkept. When asked why they appeared so dirtied by an inquisitor, the Chapter Master simply stated "The imperiums enemies care not for appearances, only deeds." Ever since, they have been noted for their terrible hygiene, and their armor is easily identifiable bye the hue of rusted copper, the Imperial Aquila trimmed with a dirty silver. Their chapter heraldry is that of a Staff with an orb at the top, as to say that it's their burden to lead the quest for knowledge, sacrificing any attempt at appearances and ritual to do so.
>>47687322
>>47687971
Both are true, sorta. Not all Living Saints are Warp entities, though; it's just a title to exemplary people. Saint Celestine is just one of the most famous.
>>47688254
Before you get excited, not all of them are women.
>>47688379
In battle, the Marines are noted for being able to enter the filthiest of conditions and stand in the harshest of weather and barely flinch. They're extreamly hardy and resistant, their toughness being second only to their extreme stubborness. They hold an utter contempt for advanced tactics and weapons, holding their skill with a bolter as paramount to their battlefield success. Indeed, their favored tactic is to land on the enemy via drop pods before proceeding to empty out and mop up what remains of their forces. To the Marines Errantor, the quicker the better.
They needless to say aren't very well liked by the Mechanicus considering how poorly they treat their gear, with much of their armor being rusted and worn, many with dents and an odd smell, implying that the marines aren't big fans of cleaning or even ever taking off their armor, for any reason. They recruit from one planet, a desert world deep within the Halo stars, where roaming desert tribes fight to survive through vicious sand storms and scrounge up what little water they can to trade for basic goods. The Marines Errantor have entrenched themselves as part of this desert ecosystem, offering a village a years worth of water should one of their young men manage to complete their tasks. These men of course are then recruited as part of the chapte, becoming battle brothers should they survive scout training.
The Marines themselves, while technically allowed back into the imperium, willingly isolate themselves off in the Halo Stars and avoid all contact with outsiders, lest they are there to petition for their aid in a conflict, in which case the High council will convene in order to decide if they intervene or not. That said, they still occasionally are found roaming outside their sector, going across the imperium as both nuisances who scavenge abandoned ships and space stations for scrap, and to protect any worlds in trouble that they happen upon in their journey.
>>47687329
>While the consequences for treachery is sift and brutal, the chapter's definition is ranges greatly. Those that obstruct the Imperium in its holy endeavors is a traitor deserving of death. In this, they work closely with the Adeptus Astartes, inform the chapter
Wow I fucked this up hard
They work closely with the Arbites
The definition of a traitor has a wide range
>>47688579
>>47688379
Wait
>dirty
>vagrants
>shunned
>okay with taking a dip in sewers and dumpsters
>good with scrounging to survive
Are these fucking hobo marines?
>>47658378
These guys ever get a badge? I was thinking a chain link or three bullets
>>47689376
They give no fucks about badges or heraldry. The blue theme is only because the first chapter master didn't really care about the armor color so the adept assigned to manage all their shit just said "wear blue you depressed shitfuck."
This was the first time anyone had ever called a Marine a shitfuck. However, it would not be the last, as the future chapter masters of the Widowmakers appreciated the harsh criticism and brutal honesty and that adept's descendants have served the chapter ever since. Luckily, they hate it, so they take plenty of opportunities to openly question decisions of the leadership.
>>47689474
Yo, every chapter needs a badge. Admin isn't gonna let blatant disregard for the codex Astartes on that level slide. Looking at a renegade chapter at best
>>47689495
>actual mutant and traitors
"meh"
>those fucks without a shoulder patch
"CLEANSE. PURGE. KILL."
>>47689616
The whole structure of the chapter itself seems fucked
If it's just a bunch of dower cynic marines, that's cool. When they start fucking how things are organized like the idea of a command structure, that's when the inquisition will pay them a visit
>>47689495
>>47689616
>>47688851
Yup, pretty much. That was the point
>>47692084
It was pretty cool desu senpai
>>47673084
Why does everyone want marines to treat humans like shit if they're about self-preservation?
How about, instead of that tired trope, theses guys actually care deeply about their serfs, despite their high casualty rate. The marines feel the deaths of their serfs gravely, and mark both their armor and their chapter-keep with the names of the fallen. An individual marine will either mark his armor with the name of each serf that died to protect him/in his care, or will inscribe scrolls upon scrolls with their names in his personal chambers, and meditate upon the lives of those who died.
I'm kind of envisioning a familial feel between the marines and their human-counterparts. Each marine knows that his life is more sacred than those of his battle-family, and that weighs upon his soul heavily.
>>47685817
I'm also pretty sure they got fucked up by the Blood Reaver and some NL
>>47687329
Wasn't sure what an Arbites scheme would be, but this is what I got
>>47694105
I know we're all trying to keep things serious, but I very much would like to see fluff about a buddy-cop-esque Marine/Arbite team.
>>47694164
>Having to bust the big case before a rebellion happens in a particularly wealthy mining world.
>Space Marine is typical inhuman, emotionless walking refrigerator, demands everyone die once he even suspects they have criminal activity.
>Arbites is the "good cop", only bashes people in after they get what they need out of them
>>47693930
The marine acts as the pseudo father-figure for his retinue of serfs, stern but caring. The Halo Brethren could refer to the honored dead rather than the living chapter. This includes all the Kriegers-like serfs that died for their emperor
The Brotherhood of a Thousand are a chapter that often follows Black Templar crusades, setting up field hospitals for their Astartes brothers and enforcing martial law in the newly conquered worlds.
Sternguard and Vanguard are merged into one entity, the Leevon Hospitaliers - named in honor of and based on their homeworld of Leevon. These brothers prefer close combat with power weapons.
>>47694242
>"Lenny and the Big Guy"
>"Chief, the Big Guy and I have a strong lead about the cultist case, we think we can crack it wide open!"
>"I don't know Lenny... You guys are too hotheaded for this."
>"Chief, come on. We've been working on this case for months. The Big Guy called in some favors with his chapter.. we'll never get another shot like this!"
>".... Alright. But no funny business. I know how you and the Big Guy work."
>>47663257
>>47673377
>>47687868
How's this? I don't know any chapters that have Burgundy in their color schemes
Anyone want to roll one of these chapters up?
>>47695502
I think that could be fun.
>>47696230
Alright, then I'll need a 1d193 to see which chapter we do it for
Rolled 73 (1d193)
>>47696287
>>47656427
Looks like a great addition to the forces of Chaos
>>47696308
Gorgons!
1d100 for when we were founded
Rolled 49 (1d100)
>>47696381
>>47696396
>37th millennium
1d10 for why we were founded
Rolled 3 (1d10)
>>47696444
>>47696536
>Strategic Prognostication - "Our tarot cards say there's going to be a threat here, maybe. Found a Chapter"
1d100 for who our progenitor was (I'm going to use the renegade chapter table because it has more options)
Rolled 6 (1d100)
>>47696573
Highlighter Marines
>>47696587
>6
Ultrasmurfs
Feel like a reroll? If not, d10 for geneseed purity
>>47696381
Gorgons are totally an Iron Hands chapter.
Gorgons.
>>47696646
>>47696703
Fuck it, Iron hands
1d10 for geneseed purity
>>47694612
So they're space Knights hospitalier? I guess they would be able to field more chaplains than other chapters.
Rolled 2 (1d10)
>>47696792
>>47649725
>black guard
>mostly white paint
SJW Trigger warning needed.
>>47697235
>pure geneseed
d10 for chapter demeanor
Rolled 7 (1d10)
>>47697308
>>47697724
>Suffer not the Xenos to live
d10 for chapter flaw
Rolled 6 (1d10)
>>47697747
Rolled 5 (1d10)
>>47697747
>>47697955
>>47697804
>Kleptomania - The renegades tend to take anything valuable not nailed down, and then rip up the things that are nailed down.
or
>Faith in Suspicion - The Chapter particularly hates a single Imperial institution, and refuses to work with them.
2d100 for chapter legend
Rolled 66, 31 = 97 (2d100)
>>47697994
Kleptomania sounds more interesting.
>>47698021
>>47698021
>kleptomania
Guess we're blood Ravens now
>Chapter legend is a Master of Sactity who is remembered as the bane of the Orks, to such an extent that his name is known to the vile greenskins even to this day.
2d100 for homeworld
Rolled 43 (1d100)
>>47698062
Rolled 23 (1d100)
>>47698062
>>47698244
>>47698257
>a desert feral world.
1d10 for how it's ruled
Rolled 2 (1d10)
>>47698559
>>47699074
>stewardship
2d10 for organization and doctrine
Rolled 8, 10 = 18 (2d10)
>>47699111
>>47699715
>divergent
>terror tactics
Makes sense for gorgons, I guess
3d100 for restrictions, equipment, and beliefs
>>47650146
Is this the chapter of SM that look for objects with the letter M on it like in Magic Tree House?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Tree_House
Rolled 61, 7, 2 = 70 (3d100)
>>47699942
>>47702098
>No Techmarines (Terror Iron Snakes?)
The other two are really bland (traditional weapons, revere the primarch), so I'm going to formally request a reroll of that shit
Rolled 42, 59 = 101 (2d100)
>>47702472
>>47702653
>Rare Weaponry: Whether through the blessing of the Adeptus Mechanicus or sheer good fortune, this Chapter has a large stock of weaponry that is considered rare amongst the other Chapters. It is seen as a symbol of honour to wield one of these weapons in battle. Examples: Astartes Assault Cannon, Digital Weapons.
>The Emperor Above All - "Screw your spiritual liege. The big E is where it's at."
Better, mostly.
lastly, 1d10 for what our strength is
Rolled 1 (1d10)
>>47702730
>>47703491
>Endangered: The Chapter numbers only a handful of Companies or less having suffered devastating losses in combat, accident, or dramatic genetic instability. If recovery is even possible it will take many decades, making every Battle-Brother (and his Progenoids) an invaluable resource.
Alright so:
>Gorgons
>Iron Hands successor from the 37M, created for strategic prognostication
>Pure Geneseed, however the chapter has a knack for kleptomania, and suffers not the xenos to live
>They are stewards of a desert feral world
>They are codex divergent, and utilize terror tactics.
>They have little to no techmarines, despite this, they have large amounts of (clearly stolen) rare weaponry.
>The hold the emperor above all, even at the point of their own extinction
Pretty concise rolls, I think
>>47694242
>>47694164
>>47694105
>>47687329
I'm thinking about sketching out one of these guys. Two questions:
Trench coat over armor, but only over the chest, like an open robe, yay or nay?
How does "Brother-Marshal" sound instead of "battle-brother"?
>>47703984
Trench coat sounds fine as long as it serve a purpose.
Brother-Marshal sounds fine. I like it actually.
>>47704215
It's most just for looks, like the tabards of the Templars and DAngels
>>47703636
Thieving Iron Snakes who use terror tactics? It sounds really cool, but I'm afraid I'm wanting for ideas right now
>>47649990
Favorite Space Marine color scheme along with the Guardians of the Covenant.
But, even then, the Guardiabs are largely up there for the complementary red robes. On the base color schemes alone, Astral Hawks win for me.
>>47704914
I was really hoping someone would pick them. That blue and black is to die for, but there's nothing on the guys. I whole heartedly agree with you, although I think the black guard and Imperial fists are my runner ups
>>47704974
Yeah, normally I'm not a fan of color schemes that dark, but the blue/black compliment each other well.
I could see them as Ultramarines or Imperial Fist successors from an ice world. Maybe even Dark Angels.
>>47705019
The blue is just light enough to not blend into the black, so it really stands out. Wouldn't know what paint to use for it though
>>47650334
Don't know if this is a dumb idea, but how about these guys are on a crusade to the Andromeda Galaxy? That's why they're technically lost, they can't be used by Imperium anymore. They're like a time capsule for the Imperium. No matter what happens in the 41st millennium, they will continue the Emperor's fight on for eternity
>>47705084
As the guardians of some long-shot colonizing mission, or completely on their own? On their own, they could do nothing but be slowly whittled down, but with millions of colonists, Mechanicus factory-ships, hydroponics- an immense undertaking, to ensure humanity's survival no matter what happens to the Milky Way.
>>47705084
>>47705149
I like the idea actually but how about they brought along a large vessel of civilians to keep their population up, even though it's not working a whole lot
>>47705186
>>47705149
Some plan put together by the Admin centuries ago lost in the mountains of paperwork, nobody but the chapter and the colonists knows their fate, if they've reached their destination, or if they're damned to wander the vast emptiness of the void for eternity
>>47705247
I'd say a few centuries in and they'd have well over a thousand marines, all complete martial badasses sans experience. Outside of numbers, they have to be strictly adherent to the codex Astartes and Lex Imperium, since that's one of the few connections left to the Imperium at large
>>47705247
Yessss, I love it.
Whether they fought for the emperor and died or if they still fight for the emperor to this day, their mark has been made
>>47705299
Their motto should be "Humanity Unending" or something like that
>>47705354
That sounds really appealing, maybe add a little something extra to the end, I'm brainstorming right now
>>47705295
>like fucking 10,000 marines by the time they get there
I like it because it turns humans into mini Tyranids for whatever's over there
>omega marines
Wait, are there alpha legion successors?
>>47705843
No. The name is likely a coincidence and their geneseed is most likely something boring like Ultramarines.
>>47705854
Could be the last Ultramarine successor where their geneseed starts to deteriorate real bad, mutations left and right. So they struggle real bad to be like Papa smurf's perfect chapter. Maybe throw in a little Lamentor luck, too
>>47705843
>>47705854
>>47705920
The Ultramarines' symbol is an upside-down omega.
>>47705950
Shit dog, that makes it easy. There's is a right side up omega. Also, could have a beef with alpha legion, but that might be pushing it
>>47650146
So their parent has a thousand sons?
Magnus children sure like to troll, loyal or not.
>>47707019
Doesn't have to be, could just be a thousand of them
>>47688518
>Before you get excited, not all of them are women.
That's even more reason
>>47704279
>>47704215
Starting some sketches
>>47695373
Maybe green or blue instead of burgundy?
>>47707019
>>47694612
Combine them?
>>47662219
Yo, you care if I steal your idea for the 1d4chan page? It's pretty neat, and nice paints too
>>47662219
Reverse Flesh Tearers.jpg
>>47714524
It's canon
>>47717703
Guys who stop by worlds ready to be inducted into the Imperium.
Basically, Grimdark Star Trek.
>>47718031
Seems like a weird job for marines
>>47718143
What force better to say "bitch, you're part of the Imperium now, here are your responsibilities" than a entire chapter of the Emperor's Finest?
>>47718269
Touchet. They're great at fighting feral tribes, but mostly suck against larger foes. Real pompous chapter, despite their ego
>>47718370
I assume 'suck' in this context is a relative term.
>>47718560
Well, yeah. They're still Astartes, each guy is a walking refrigerator with 20guns taped to it, but as far as SMs go, they're just average and under experienced fighting something like chaos or nids
>>47718620
Frankly, I'd expect anyone in 40k making contact with primitive societies and going boldly where no posthuman has gone before to run into Chaos on a regular basis. Maybe not the big CSM-led warbands, but I'd expect primitives trying to summon demons to smite their foes and actually succeeding to be pretty common.
