I've read fluff about "Eldar ambassadors" to the Imperium, but I thought the Imperium kills xenos on sight unless they're busy killing other xenos/Chaos. Am I mistaken about something?
>>47627079
Just like in the real world, politics are a thousand shades of gray.
It is sometimes beneficial for the Imperium to work with the Eldar, hence why there are ambassadors between the two at the extremely high levels (such as the Inquisitorial level) of the Imperial government.
However, those decisions can't be safely made at the lower levels of society, so the "official" policy for the average person (and even regular nobility) is still to avoid at all costs, because they're almost certainly not capable of handling it and will be manipulated by the Eldar into doing the bidding of the Eldar.
>>47627079
The Imperium's overarching policy is that it the galaxy belongs to humanity and that every sapient alien race must be exterminated. However, that's completely infeasible in the short term, so they do entertain diplomatic communications with some factions. Eldar are one, Tau another. Generally, these relations are handled by the Inquisition and a non-militant faction of the Sororitas (Diagolus IIRC) focused on translation and interpretation of alien societies and languages.
>>47627079
>There are Eldar there
>Also a whole bunch of nids we both loosing against
>Let's speak to the guys who, well, can be spoken with
>But let's ask them to pick one dude instead of all of them and we send one dude too
Bahm, there you go anon, an ambassador.
>>47627079
>>47627157
The Imperium's official status towards the Eldar is that they're not worth the trouble it would take to wipe them out. The Eldar are already a dying race, and attacking craftworlds is an extraordinarily costly affair that often does more harm than good in the long run. The Invaders Space Marine chapter succeeded at destroying one, the survivors rallied with another craftworld and wiped out the Invaders Chapter.
Not to mention that the Eldar and the Imperium both share a mutual enemy in Chaos and the Necrons (and the Orks and the Tyranids... everyone but the Tau, basically), so it often benefits them to work together, despite their mutual disgust.
Politics on the imperial frontier is a lot more real politik than the mandates the high lords probably put out
>>47627079
Because the 40k universe has practically no editorial control and over its long history, countless authors just sat down and wrote whatever the fuck they wanted. Practically any statement, idea or tone is canon and not for 40k at the same time.
>>47627580
well, the galaxy is a big place bruv
>>47627743
The Milky way has, what, 200 Billion solar systems? And we know of like, what, a few dozen by name in the 40k universe?
>>47627246
No, they did not. They reduced them to three companies. As of 999.M41 the Invaders are still around.
>>47628408
Well, of course marines can't lose completely. That would piss off marine fanboys.
An entire craftworld, potentially thousands of eldar civilians, slaughtered by a marine chapter is just fine, but that given chapter being wiped out in vengeance by the eldar, now that's just unacceptable.
>>47628484
There you go. Now you're thinking like Ward
>>47627246
>eldars keep invading our worlds for farseer's reasons killing millions/billion in their do what mission
>let's not invade them, it ins't worthwhile
Its that really imperial thoughts I'm saying here?
It is so stupid that not even grimdark fits it
>>47627246
>Necrons, the faction that can repair Cadian pylons and fight warp with tech
>enemy of Imperium in the same sentence with goddamn Chaos
>>47628709
Human lives mean nothing to the Imperium at large.
Imperial forces send that many people on suicide missions with alarming regularity. People is the one thing Imperium has basically unlimited amounts of.
Also, the Eldar are humanity's allies as often they are their enemies. There are countless instances where the Eldar have aided the Imperium in fighting their mutual foes, chaos, necrons, orks and tyranids.
Finally, even locating, let alone actually attacking and destroying a craftworld, is extremely difficult task. Imperium has no clear knowledge of the positions of any given craftworlds, just crude estimates of where they MIGHT be. And craftworlds are basically small planetoid sized vessels, protected via powerful weaponry, and eldar space fleets. Which coincidentally makes the idea that Invaders chapter managed to destroy one by themselves, fucking retarded.
>>47628709
Compared to Chaos, Orks, Imotech, Nids?
>>47628999
>Tyranids, the faction that can eat demon worlds and fight the immaterium with the shadow in the warp.
>enemy of Imperium in the same sentence with goddamn Chaos
That's how you sound, anon. They're both out, to get everyone. Just because they're antithesis to each other doesn't mean they're best buds with the imperium. Especially in 40k.
>>47629006
Well, in the story the Eldar were weakened from facing Tyranids already and the Invaders just kinda ran across them at the right time.
Wasn't like the one chapter took on a whole full strength craftworld and survived.
>>47629140
Oh, well that makes it more acceptable.
>>47629006
>Which coincidentally makes the idea that Invaders chapter managed to destroy one by themselves, fucking retarded.
Every single faction have stupid shit like that. Eldar has one where they destroy and entire Ork Waaagh! without a single casualty.
>>47628537
ring that bell
>>47628484
They let them kill that Craftworld to show how incredibly badass they are. Destroying the chapter would make that exercise pointless now, wouldn't it?
>>47627246
>wiped out the Invaders Chapter.
Nope, they decimated them to under-strength levels and forced them to become a fleet-based chapter after said Eldar smashed their homeworld.
>>47629133
Necrons can and must be allies of Imperium if it wants to fight off the Chaos once and for all
>>47629133
1-Tyranids are not sentient and reasonable
2-Tyranids cannot eat daemon worlds
3-Shadow of the Warp does fuck all against Warpstorms and Warp Rifts
4-Eat a bio-dick, you Nidfanboy.
>>47627079
Neither race likes the other, but they will temporarily team up if it's for a common cause. The ambassadors exist because they help ensure the survival of the Craftworld by making deals with the imperium for temporary alliances.
>>47628999
You're forgetting that the goal of Necrons is to either wipe out every other sapient race, or reduce them to a position somewhere between "slaves" and "pets."
>>47630059
>1-Tyranids are not sentient and reasonable
Yes they fucking are
>>47630000
>Necrons can and must be allies of Imperium
Necrons can't even ally with each other for extended periods of time. Any hope of collaborating with the Imperium on a large scale is wasted effort.
>>47630222
Sentient, certainly, reasonable, not in the least.
>>47630251
>Necrons can't even ally with each other for extended periods of time.
False.
Necrons are unifying and establishing their old alliances. Refer to the codex. In fact, Necrons never erase the configuration of their alliances on their warscythe out of devotion.
Do you really have to be such a dishonest bastard to just lie like that to push forward a narrative when we have codexes around?
>>47630522
>Do you really have to be such a dishonest bastard to just lie like that to push forward a narrative
Uh oh, Carnac is sperging out.
>>47630697
So you have no argument to come up instead of accusing people of "sperging" to cover up the fact that you lied.
Here is nugget for you. Among all the "bad" races the Necrons are the least infighty by far. They are less infighty than perhaps the Eldar race and the Imperium because how they are structured as a race and how their political system works.
>>47630939
>So you have no argument to come up instead of accusing people of "sperging" to cover up the fact that you lied.
You're under the false assumption that I'm the original anon. I have no argument to make because I'm merely a passerby pointing out that /tg/'s resident sperg got triggered
>>47630998
Again with the lies. You utterly shameless. You get called out and then pretend to be someone else all while throwing insults instead forwarding the discussion. Textbook shitposting.
Even if you are another person the fact that you got triggered by the act of calling someone out on their dishonesty means you are an equally dishonest person.
And you have no argument because
A) You are a coward
B) This no counter argument. This is all from the codexes.
>>47631187
There is*
>>47631187
>codexes
The plural form of "codex" is "codices", bruh.
>>47632433
No, it's really Codii.
GW's stance on the IoM's stance on Xenos has changed significantly over the years. For example, back in the Rogue Trader era there was a half-eldar Space Marine who is not implied to be universally loathed and only tolerated because of capability. There's also reference in either the IG or Eldar codex at this time of the majority of Eldar-IoM conflicts being of a pragmatic nature instead of "FUCK DA XENOS / MON'KEIGH" reasons. In 3rd Edition there's numerous stories that make reference to Xenos not being "Kill on sight" for anyone who isn't a Fuklaw-tier Commissar, and the 3rd Edition (Craftworld?) Eldar Codex makes explicit mention of a report by a former Imperial Ambassador who had been stationed to an embassy on an Eldar Craftworld. The IoM also has ambassadors sent in the 3E Tau codex and - while a bit more frumpy - they do at least practice some sort of diplomacy besides "U r stinky, die for us k bye" being written on a stickie-note.
>>47634416
It's more fun to think about the Eldar/Imperium having some kind of long standing rivalry rather than just trying to murderfuck each other.
>>47634858
Eldar don't really muderfuck anymore, not sice what happened last time
>>47635073
Well the Dark Eldars do. And who knows how the Harlequins get their rocks off.
