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Previous thread: >>69538842

>UFC FN 91 bonuses
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/ufc-fight-night-91-bonuses-as-if-there-was-any-question-ferguson-and-vannata-lead-the-way

>Wilson Heis gets a Darrell Horcher
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/promotional-newcomer-sean-santella-steps-in-to-fight-wilson-reis-at-ufc-201-in-atlanta

>UFC FN 91 results
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/07/ufc-fight-night-91-results-john-linekers-power-shuts-down-michael-mcdonald-in-first-round
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schaub
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first for RARE
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Fuck bulgaria
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Should he be fucking ashamed?
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>>69545513
5 foot 5 bald cuck
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>there are casuals in this thread right now who think Cruz would stand a chance against Aldo
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>>69545485
>vanatta
Who?
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UFC 200 stunk
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London Banana is officially /heem/'s boy now.
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STILL.
STILL.
STIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLL.

http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1468454162661.webm
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>>69545562
He spells his name wrong and so does the UFC
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>>69545590
:3

Kailin a CUTE!
CUTE!!!
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>tfw I could heem everyone here
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>>69545607
Ugly pig face. She looks like Wanderlei.
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>>69545630
shut up
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So Connor is gonna wreck Lesnar right?
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>>69545638
people will laugh but I really think so. Lesnar doesn't know how to take a punch and Conor would punch him a lot before Lesnar could even get a finger on Conor. I can easily see Conor TKOing him in the first.
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FIGHT MOTION

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqhmIGgO25E

WATCH IT YOU GOOFS
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>>69545630
hot tbqh
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>>69545638
We all know weight classes only exist because lanklets don't want to get embarassed
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>>69545668
what in the actual fuck mate? There is not way in hell that connor can ever do anything against Lesnar. The difference is physicality is just way to much. How can anyone think otherwise? You just got baited you fucking casual
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>>69545752
>You just got baited you fucking casual
That's ironic considering he just baited you
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How will Horcher do in the UFC?
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>>69545752
>You just got baited you fucking casual

there are levels to this shit, you think you are baiting me then *BAM* you are the one thats being baited.
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>>69545781
He had a bad motorcycle accident a couple of months ago, will probably be out for a while. He looked pretty good on the feet v Khabib though.
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>>69545607
ujelly?
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Is Edelman shopped? I don't remember him clowning with them.
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>>69545780
>>69545810
Congratulations, you got yourself caught. What's the next step in your master plan?
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>>69545860
hnnnnggggg
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BJM blew Jackson/Wink and Condit out

I'm a #LawlerWon now
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>>69545862
looks shopped, I can tell from some of the pixels and from seeing quite a few shops in my time
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>>69545871
crashing this thread
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>>69545854
Pretty sure thats up the commission
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>Tony Ferguson will fight for the title in the UFC's "deepest division" in 2016
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>>69545950
Probably won't. He needs another top fight.
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>>69545895
>How would you even objectively determine damage

Strikes are damaging if they cause your opponent to react to them, basically. If I break a 2x4 over Nate Diaz's face and he doesn't move, no facial expression change, it doesn't change what he's doing, it's not damaging. If I get a knockdown? Damaging.

Obviously those are two extremes, but it's a spectrum. You can also hear how much force a hit is applied with. If you ever hear someone get kicked in the face with a boot and their nose breaks? It's a disgusting sound.
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>>69545939
>If I write a book about cooking, does that makes me a chef?

If chefs follow your cookbook, you're an authority on cooking.
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https://youtu.be/5YdEDtFOdCA?t=1052

>BJM tells John Crouch to Shut the Fuck up after he complains about the stoppage in RDA/Benson Henderson
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>>69545965
>it's not damaging

That's just fucking stupid then, that's obviously going to cause something somewhat more objective in aesthetic damage and obviously is going to rattle his head and probably put him out for 6 months at least

Scoring because someone has retard adrenaline is not the slightest bit objective
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Judges should be required to take a punch from both fighters so they can determine who has the more damaging strikes
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>>69545986
time stamp?
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>Herb Dean's Judging camp
>if you're come too late or too early you pass the test

kek
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http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations#14

>Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal strikes landed by a contestant.
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>>69546018
[Embed] doesn't work, copy the link into a new tab and it should be timestamped right

Skip a few seconds back if you want the full story, it's a decent podcast so far since they're talking about fightan
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>>69545994
>that's obviously going to cause something somewhat more objective in aesthetic damage

I feel like you misread me. It's not about whose face is more fucked up. Strikes are damaging if they affect how the fight is going. If my strikes force you to react to them or they change where you are or they stop your combo or what the fuck ever, they're effective. They're damaging.

If I technically hit you with a fist but it just glances off you and nothing changes as a result of it, it's not damaging.
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>>69546031
>“Effective striking” is judged by determining the impact of legal strikes landed by a contestant and the number of such legal strikes. Heavier strikes that have a visible impact on the opponent will be given more weight than the number of strikes landed. These assessments include causing an opponent to appear stunned from a legal blow, causing the opponent to stagger, appearance of a cut or bruise from a legal strike and causing the opponent to show pain. Cumulative impact on a fighter will also be weighed. If neither fighter shows an advantage in impact of strikes, the number of strikes will determine the most effective striker.
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WITNESS THE GREATNESS.
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>>69546044
thanks lad, BJM is based
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>>69546047
>if they affect how the fight is going

Strikes from the first round could have significant impact on the fourth round and so on

And again, simply judging by reaction isn't everything, Vannata ate a straight superman punch and hardly reacted if at all, he kept going, it doesn't mean it isn't in the slightest an effective strike

You can break your nose during a punch and not much react to it, it doesn't mean it isn't damaging

Such an arbitrary standard
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>>69545494
Top lad

Schaub bless
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>>69546101
All judging standards are arbitrary. That's why we have judges.
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>>69545986
>leg kicks don't do anything

>this man is considered one of the top refs in the world
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>>69546159
timestamp
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>>69546159
>leg kicks

we call them Condit kicks around these parts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6SGAEycXo
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>>69546154
That don't even technically use the standards you're describing
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>>69545982
>If chefs follow your cookbook, you're an authority on cooking.
If chefs follow my cookbook, he's a retard.
And people are mislead all the time, and not only in sport, but in everything.
Look at Condit listening to that goofball whose only background is playing with rocks and climbing on trees, believing it's actually gonna help him fighting dudes in a cage.
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>>69546183
Go ask Urijah Faber if leg kicks don't do anything
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BJM makes an interesting point about how coaches shout out "BYOOTIFUL WORK" and shit to influence the judges
Don't know why but I never really looked at it that way, thought it was just to boost their confidence and shit
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>>69546172
40:40
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>>69546211
he's right, real leg kicks are like Melvin Manhoef against Lawler
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>>69546235
Well obviously those are the most significant but that doesn't mean leg kicks as a whole suddenly don't count, it's purely subjective
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>>69546260
He's not saying all leg kicks don't count tho, he's saying arguing that Condit won because he "outstruck" Lawler based on inconsequential calf taps is a weak case
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>>69545494
>>69546112
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>>69546171
this is legit
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>>69546283
That's basically what he said though, probably not what he meant too be fair

>inconsequential calf taps

That's where the issue comes in, how can you tell how actually inconsequential it is? You really can't. Even with this whole reaction argument, Condit's leg kicks caused Robbie to react in different ways, Condit's strikes in general also kept the distance which changed the way the fight went and Robbie reacted, thus neutralizing his offense. The leg kicks even put Robbie off-balance a couple times

Accumulation damage is a thing
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Still my boy.
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>>69546385
Jon Jones heemed the credibility of the division.

People can say roids all day, but every time people discuss about Cormier as the champ there will be an asterisk next to him, *former champ beat him and had to be stripped because his personal life is a trainwreck
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You guys realize Jon "coke and poke" Jones only beat Alex because he was roided to the gills, right? It's good to finally get vindication
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>>69546385
>one fight in 3.5 years
He's he trying to break Cruz's record?
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>>69546479
They're all on steroids.
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>>69546479
EVERYONE IS ON SHIT
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can we get rid of all the fucking stupid manletweight divisions once and for all. Light Heavyweight should be Lightweight and Middleweights are basically Flyweights
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>>69546183
>Those leg kicks Lawler just eats from Manhoef

Absolutely brutal, if I recall Condit got him with some leg kicks too though Lawler started jumping when he threw them eventually. Maybe he needs to work on checking them
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>>69546501
>>69546500
ayy you right
I shouldn't have been surprised when he popped
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>>69546183
lmao this is hilarious
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>>69546183
>making lawler do fucking standing splits

Daily reminder that Manhoef KO'd Hunto in like 20 seconds.
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>>69546479
You honestly think Alex wasn't roided?
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>there are goofs in this thread right now who think Condit's leg kicks were anything more than tippy tappy point strikes
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>>69546615
Accumulation damage is still damage
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>>69546649

*touches you with a finger 1000 times*
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>>69546371
>how can you tell how actually inconsequential it is?
By looking at them. No windup, barely any audible contact, no physical evidence of damage (i.e. swelling or bruising), etc.
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>>69546649
there has to be damage before it can start to accumulate
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>>69546670
That would hurt like fuck.
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You now remember Thomas Almeida
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>yfw 189er goofs on an anime imageboard disagree with BJM when it comes to scoring and unironically think they're right
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You now remember Fedor Emelianenko
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>>69546670
Mate calm down that's a step too far
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Who else hoping for khabib-ferguson? That was not a championship performance imo
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>>69546673
>No windup

Utterly irrelevant

>barely any audible contact
Should probably get a q-tip

>no physical evidence
Diaz brothers bleed like a pig and look like utter shit after most of their fights, doesn't mean they're necessarily taking significant physical damage

And again, if you're going to go by the aforementioned "reaction" standard, Robbie reacted to the legs most the time and it threw him off his normal rhythm and prevented him from actually being an aggressor most of the time
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>>69546714
>196er retards think BJM is a remotely credible authority of officiating
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>>69546728
Khabib should be cut, never fights and a boring wrestlefucker.

If Fitch got cut, Khabib should be cut.
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>Alright losers, let's get this shit over with
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>>69546728
Yeah but if Ferguson gets that belt and then fight Khabib, this fight will be even bigger.
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>>69546728
Either Khabib or Ferguson should get the next title shot.
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>>69546736
Robbie wasn't the aggressor because Condit moved so much, not because he was getting chopped down by little flicking insect-bite leg kicks, that was pretty obvious.
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>>69546760
>time travelling 202ers don't realise he literally helped write the rules of the sport
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GET THE FUCK IN HERE
https://youtu.be/frZfw3Z6z9M

https://youtu.be/frZfw3Z6z9M
https://youtu.be/frZfw3Z6z9M
https://youtu.be/frZfw3Z6z9M
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>>69546784
>leg kicks don't create distance

>leg kicks that knock you off balance don't make you hesitant when coming forward

>insect-bite leg kicks
durrrrrrrrrrrrr
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>>69546792
And doesn't even know how to enforce them correctly evident of Carvalho-Manhoef
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Why was fight night better than 200? Isnt is supposed to be the other way round?
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>>69546818
>Boris Johnson more

Do people even watch this shit?
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>>69546818
THE PREMIER MINDS OF MMA
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What a shitty poster.
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>>69546880
You make a better one goof
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if bisking defends his title to hendo in manchester im gonna have to pay big money to see that live
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>>69546926
Shame we'd have to go to manchester to see it, you'd have to pay me to go back there
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>>69546880
>>69546892
They should use this as base layer
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>>69546685
le ebin dick niaz maymay xD
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>>69546973
AAAAAAH, HERB HELP ME
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>>69546973
why not the one where Conor is smacking Nate around? oh wait because you are a blind Conor hater thats why.
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You know what i just realised lads

Anderson has fought TWICE since the Diaz fight after getting popped for roids

TWICE and Nicks suspension isn't even fucking over yet

How the fuck does that work
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>>69547009
You can't upload what never happened.
>cucks think that those pitter-patter potato slappers count as significant
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>>69546880
>anytime
obviously not
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>>69547009
Post it, I haven't seen anything like that (even during the match)
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>>69547009
let him memepost while he still can m8

order will be restored soon and then what will he have?
>muh lucky punch
>muh early stoppage
>muh dodging wrasslers
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>>69546880

Dear god Conor needs pore strips.
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>>69547034
Awww you believe in memes that's so cute
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>>69547030
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>>69547021
Nicholas Diaz is a repeat offender and a degenerate half brain
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>>69547046
Yes yes, well done conor, well done conor

HOWEVER
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Psst.

Hey Mexico.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>69547065
>potato presenting itself for mating
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>>69547077

>Same punch he threw against Conrad
>Chin up in the air

Conor is gonna sleepy him again
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>>69547065
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>>69547077
oh wow look at me I decisioned a manlet I'm so great
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>>69547088

Whatever you say m8. If Aldo doesn't lead and forces Conor to, Conor is going to end up looking stupid.
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>>69547034
>>69547046
>>69547057
>Conor dickriders are back
I'm not surprised, motherfuckers.
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>>69547138
Make them leave pls
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>>69546880
>Anytime
Aug 20 2016, not a day before or after. Already chickened out of UFC 200 once.
>Any weight
Must be between 156-171 pounds
>Anywhere
T-Mobile Arena
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Goober vs Banana would be the funniest fight ever
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>>69547088
>>69547103

You lads just worry about your only champ not losing to a barely ranked fighter, leave analysis up to the experts
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>>69547138
>>69547151

The Diaz fanboy's tears will be delicious after he get heemed by McGOAT
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>>69547138
I don't mind em
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http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/usada-says-he-ll-continue-to-drug-test-brock-lesnar-071416
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>>69547222
UFC.tv
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>>69547179
Didn't that same exact shot happen in te first fight too?
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>>69547222
this is a spicy banger list
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how do we fix mandrama?
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>>69547222
What do you want to know?
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>>69547250
he would wreck Brock so badly, Brock literally has nothing for him standing or on the ground.
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>tfw i went to sunny beach 4 years ago and every bulgurian i seen was under 5'8
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>>69547252
Hire the Diaz brothers as a tag team
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John Kavanagh admitted the game plan for the first Diaz fight was for Conor to go out and knock him out quickly so they could move on to more important fights. What a fucking idiot.

Why does nobody give Conor shit for having a meme coach and gym where literally everyone sucks?
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Goobie.
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>>69547249
put ferguson-vannata in there

>>69547222
watch the fights on this list
taima(.)tv to watch events 4 3
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>>69547249
That's not it. 61 is Ferguson-Vannata
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>>69547281
there is an updated version somewhere
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>>69547281
live events, that is
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>>69547241

First Fronk fight? Yeah, the fight on Saturday was almost exactly the same as the first, only less kicks from Aldo and no takedowns from Frankie. Literally exact same scorecards too.
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Who /Bananaismyboy/ here?
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>>69547272
he's brought in high level boxing/bjj/wrestling guys for this camp tho, losing to nate has made him a much better fighter already
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>>69547301

Just stick around lad, you'll learn as long as you can seperate the memers from the real fitefans
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>>69547293
London Banana is my boy, want to see him clown some lower ranked goofs.
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>>69547315
its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
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>>69547304

Prior to the first fight he was training with the best boxers in ireland too. And training with a BJJ coach is good, but won't help him much in the short term. All of the he escapes and transitions he tries Nate will probably have an answer for, and him learning offensive grappling is pointless against Nate.
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It is what it is, you know?
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>>69547301
As the other guy said, stick around and you'll pick up a few things. The next card is next Weekend (not the one coming up) and events are generally on a Saturday.
The times are generally mentioned leading towards the event, but they generally start at around 11pm BST if you're interested in the prelims. The Main cards start at around 2am BST or 3am BST and last around 2 or 3 hours depending on how the fights go.

It's worth looking at the spicy banger list and watching fights off there for some fun, but not every fight is some epic bloodfest where guys are just swinging for the fences
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>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
>its fine, we don't engage in meaningful conversations anyway
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>>69547249
You the guy who made the list? I know it's a Brit who had the actual file, is this the most up to date one?
Add Ferguson/Banana on there, I think it's decent enough to be put on. Pic related is the most up to date version I have of the list and there's a few floating around
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What did she mean by this?
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>>69547376
nah i just had one saved from earlier on
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we are all /heem/

all flags and newfags are welcome
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>>69547376
He doesn't maintain the list anymore. I've added the last 10 fights with suggestions from everyone. >>69547307 Also made a pastebin in case anybody wanted to make their own. It's in the archive.
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>>69547405
Put ▶ in the filename so it looks like a maymay arrow friend ;^)
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>>69547408
nice proxy
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>>69547410
>suggestions from everyone
They have to be certified bangers though, sometimes people suggest fights that had a bit of swinging but aren't really spicy enough to make the cut

Don't want that shit on there, can /heem/ certify these bangers for me?
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>>69547249
>Igor Pokrajac Jan Blachowicz

So spicy that the UFC gave 4 POTN of the bonuses none of which included either of those fighters

That fight was just a sloppy slugfest when they did actually slug it out
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>>69547432
I've certified few. That's the reason the Yancy fight on the other guy's list isn't there. First round is a clinch fest.
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>>69547304
Memes have a power of their own though.
Imagine if Conor was straight edge before Aldo. No way he would do the same. Mewvment does it's thing.
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>>69547304
Jiu jitsu wasn't his issue, his issue was that he was almost knocked out and went for a sloppy takedown

Training with top jiu jitsu guys and boxing guys for a few months doesn't mean you're going to outbox or out jiu jitsu Nate
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>>69547483
>Training with top jiu jitsu guys and boxing guys for a few months doesn't mean you're going to outbox or out jiu jitsu Nate
This.
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What was with the late stoppage in the first fight? Dude was getting pummeled for like 10 minutes. Does herb even know what hes doing?
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>>69547453
Diego Sanchez is the king of spicy and all of his fights are sloppy brawlers.
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>>69547508
BASED BANANA
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>>69547499
Marc Goddard and Mike Beltran are the only good refs in MMA
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>>69547499
Herb probably hates Reddit
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>>69547495
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>>69547521
So you agree big john is a meme too. Im with you there
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>>69547521
>complaining about Based Jon McCarthy

I bet you wanted Aldo to win.
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Don't talk to me or my son ever again
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>>69547535
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>>69547552
are those arms shooped
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>>69547552
Dat nigga Artem look like Cain with dwarfism
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>>69547557

I didn't know Harry Potter was 9 ft tall
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>>69547562
Nope. If his torso was shrunk so that his reach matched his height, he'd be a flyweight.
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>>69547557
this nine foot nigga looks like a fucking wax statue.
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fuck y'all talkin about
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>>69547589
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should there be a heavyweight limit?
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>>69547599
There is.
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>>69547599

Yes

267.3 lbs
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>>69547599
lmao that guy cant even walk properly
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Reach is all that matters. Once NBA players transition, the MMA meme will be found out.
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>>69547656
SHOO SHOO DUNKING GOBLIN
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You guys are posting some real big guys.
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Connor Reubusch and DOCTOR Pat Wyman are both picking Jose in the rematch against Goober
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>>69545609
even yourself?
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Reminder that Lineker would heem DJ if he could make 125
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Why does every podcast I listen to, including UFC's own Unflitered shill for some company or another, yet Joe Rogan never has the need to?

What's the difference there, is Rogan not in it for the money or something? UFC's worth 4 Billion dollars, I was surprised even they had to shill MeUndies
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>>69547753
Joe rogan is independently wealthy.
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>>69547753

Joe just shills his own shit
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>>69547768
He does it in more clever ways like eating during the show and bringing up onnit.
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>>69547746
just like john dodgeson would heem DJ right
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>>69547753
Rogain shills stuff before the pod senpai
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>>69547753
Am I being baited? Rogan shills onnit at the start of every 'cast.
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>>69547753
>rogaine doesnt shill onnit
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>>69547829
He doesn't shill anything at the start anymore.
Hasn't for years.
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>>69547842
I listened to the Shael podcast two hours ago and he definitely shilled onnit.
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>>69547753
Joe Rogan doesn't care about money, he just wants to train in his home gym, practice archery in his backyard, travel the world hunting with professional hunters, drive his sharkwerks porsche gt3 rs, and do stand up comedy.
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>>69547875
>you'll never see hidden camera footage of this hue experimenting with her dog at a tender age

heem me now senpai
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>>69547850
Listen to the start again, he always starts with casual conversation now.
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HES HURT MIKE
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>>69546159
Good leg kicks do a ton, half assed ones do nothing
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>>69547887
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BANANA
G
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>>69547957
Oh ho, why not take the knot?
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>>69547957
ONE WEEK UNTIL THIS ABSOLUTE SAVAGE BREAKS BONES IN LFC
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POUND FOR POUND ONE OF THE BEST FIGHTERS IN THE UFC WITH PHENOMINAL TAKE DOWN SKILL AND GENUINE KNOCK OUT POWER THIS IS A FIGHT YOU WONT WANT TO MISS
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Who can beat this woman?
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>>69548040
The top 500 men no problem
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>>69548040

>>69547957
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>>69548040
my dad
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>>69548040
claudia sucks
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>>69548040

when Dominick steals Paige Sletten from Team Beta Fail and teaches her Cruzment
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BH2MRlBBp2S/
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>>69548079
Your dad beats women?
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>There's an alternate universe where Bisping beat Cornier at UFC 200
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>>69548146
sounds like a hilarious universe
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>>69548122
>instagram is now a YTMND social network site
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-k4wKiM6Xw&t=1081s

MMA reporters are fucking brutal. I've never heard anyone get asked the same questions these guys are asking Lawler.

>Robbie, over here, quick question, what keeps you getting out of bed in the morning?
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>>69548146
There are no other universes. Only this one. And Bisping is the champ. Weidman is a cuck, btw.

>>69548110
Paige Sletten has the worst defensive boxing in UFC history
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>>69548079
my dad would heem your dad kid
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>>69548146
>we don't live in the dankest timeline

What a terrible time to be alive.
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>>69548168
Mate I think at this point everyone is just used to shit tier questions
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>>69548183
My dad would eat your dads superman punch for breakfast
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Post your best Dana's
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Was lando vs ferguson the goat fight?
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>>69548186
Yeah, I guess you have to be able to deal with a lot of shit to be a fighter.
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>>69548218
LOLLL
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>>69548193
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>>69548199
No
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>>69548300
Silly Dilly is fucking delusional.
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>>69548300

>le 25k to show up guy
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>>69545950
>He'd btfo Conor inside a round.
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>>69548300
Cruz went running
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