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>Edmonton
w-why didn't u come steven?
who will make me nachos with cheese now
>shorks
Oilers did nothing wrong
>Stammer is coming to T town cause this is home so therefor he's signing with the Leafs for 10 years.
t. Laffs fans everywhere 10 hours ago
>yfwswtc
>>69071306
Fuck memes
who will be the first big name signed on friday and who will sign him
>>69071278
>>69071299
Nah there's no way this nightmare happens again. But I'm hoping Therrien is fired after the first 3 game losing streak, that's what they hired Muller for
>Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson
>>69071334
>s
>po
>>69071343
Bishop to Oilers
>>69071343
Lucic, NJ
>>69071343
Lucic back to Bruins
Is edmonton shit?
>Let's not trade ENH, Eberle or Yakupov!
>Let's trade our best winger for someone we could have drafted in 2011
>Let's replace that winger with a hunchback goon from Hongcouver
I know I've said in /hoc/ before that Edmonton should stack defense and make 4 forward lines of just goons, but not like this. Not like this, man
>>69071334
>yfwtcbjwtsc
people can't make fun of the gudbranson trade now KEK
>>69071388
that would be too many memes for one offseason
>@StuCowan1
>Shea Weber does not sound very excited on his conference call about leaving @PredsNHL for #Habs. Wait till he sees Montreal media mob.
Weber on suicide watch
>>69071283
>Ben Bishop on defense
>McDavid in net
That was one of the best \hawk\ threads I've ever seen.
>>69071358
>s
>mtpo
kek
>>69071343
Lucic to the oilels
>>69071336
I do believe Weber/Pacioretty/Price/Galchenyuk and to a lesser extent Gallagher is a great core but maybe I'm just being a delusional fanboy
>>69071411
RNH*
>>69071415
her pee is too yellow. she needs to hydrate
also post that gook ass kippers
>>69071335
that is the first time i have seen anyone wear a rasy hat
>>69071415
Le ebin pee meme http://mlb.com/images/1/2/2/127784122/orbit_streaking_med_gvyw2dsi.gif
>>69071415
Most people forget the canucks even exist desu
>>69071454
>imageboard
>posts a link to image
uhh... go back
>>69071433
>he thinks anyone wants those other trash players
>he thinks you would get anything worth a damn from those players
laughinggirls
>>69071411
The only thing keeping me from leaping off a bridge is McDavid, and this fucker in pic related.
>>69071473
It's an image bored mate :^)
Maybe I'm wrong, maybe Hall isn't as valuable as I or many others thought?
>>69071483
I guess you won't be very happy when mcdavid needs shoulder surgery in November.
>>69071473
Post tits or fuck off
lucic yfw lucic has scored 30 goals more times than taylor hall
>>69071451
i live in tampa and i have a blots, sucs, and lex university hat but ive never bothered to buy a gays hat.
>>69071483
>>69071483
bulju doesnt look right in oilers colours. im not even a blow jackets fan either
Chris Johnston @reporterchris 19m19 minutes ago
All but $8-million of Steven Stamkos's $68-million contract will be paid in July 1 signing bonuses. He's due $8.5M on Friday.
unnnnnnnnnnn fucking real
Lucic - McDavid - Pulju is actually a based as fuck line.
>>69071431
I think it's good enough, especially in the East. At some point, whether it's july 1st or the deadline we have to fix the offense to give them a serious chance in the ploffs.
>>69071498
He's good but people are overvaluing the fuck out of him for the position they were looking for, in my opinion.
>>69071514
i thought gays technically played in St Petersburg and not the city of tampa
>>69071518
why doesn't he retire when he hits 30?
Hold me /hoc/
>tfw hallsy will never get to play in an outdoor game
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@TSNRyanRishaug
The ask from MTL for Subban was astronomical to Oil. Draisaitl, #4, Klefbom or Nurse and more.
This makes it sound like Montreal understood Subban's value at one point. What went wrong?
>>69071518
>yfw it's a sign and trade to Toronto as Tampa buys out his contract letting him sign with the laffs for another 60m
>Weber signed that huge fucking contract
>He didn't get a NMC
how?
>>69071516
I'm an Oilers fan, and I think he look ten times more awesome in the based orange and blue.
Holy fuck >my team sucks, though.
Taylor Hall is literally just a 20 goaler wing guy lol
meme
>>69071569
offer-sheet from philly
>>69071571
Don't let the faggots here convince you otherwise but they made a step in the right direction today.
>>69071569
Because NMC/NTCs are left up to the team that matches the offersheet.
>>69071566
>it's another episode of laffs fans being fucking retarded
getting really retired of these repeats tbfh
>>69071569
Flyers gave him NTC/NMC but the Preds only had to match the money structure.
>s..stammer just said he wants to stay in tampa for no reason
>t... toronto here he comes
>>69071573
1st overall tho
>>69071555
Weber's meat and potatoes adds a lot of value
>put frogs in charge of your managementment/coaching
>have autistic frog breakdown when they do things you dont like
kek. frog hate thread when?
>>69071617
Why does that matter at this point?
>>69071632
Because she doesn't actually understand how hockey works.
I'm assuming Hall is a shithead in the locker room? That's the only reason I can see this trade being made.
>>69071640
No its because he was their best player not named mcdavid.
>>69071632
because value is always attached to high draft picks
you can be a fucking bust and be unloaded for good stuff
except the oilers literally traded the bust for crap
thanks, chia, always trading high picks for shit
>>69071579
>>69071587
>>69071600
>hello, montreal.
>>69071640
Chiarelli is really bad at trading.
Yo what the fuck? Are oilers fans happy about this?
>>69071640
they traded a 20 goal winger for a top pairing shut down D. chia just fleeced new joisey.
Life is honestly becoming a giant meme
2017 is our year
>>69071657
More relevant than his draft position would be his 80 point season.
>>69071657
>because value is always attached to high draft picks
>>69071676
You're not wrong. I'm enjoying the sports portion of it at least.
>>69071670
literally JVR for Luke Schenn part 2.
>>69071640
read the story about him and some player going to bars and getting angry at people for not knowing who he is
>>69071672
Are you the same American Oilers fan that's been going on all day about how Chiarelli did good with the trade?
taylor hall is just a younger lupul, lol. thats a good trade for edmonton. let taylor go score 25 goals in that smelly ass disgusting city. oilers just stole their cornerstone D
>>69071330
This was me.
Now I'm glad we have don't have that horrible caphit for 8 years
THIS IS WHO WE GOT! THIS IS WHO WE GOT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGTf3HVbmX4
I'm actually a Kingsfan but living in Edmonton means I watch a lot of Oil games. High level bridge here I fucking come!
>>69071707
I'm not him but yoy guys severely overvalue Hall for what player they were trying To acquire. Disagree if you want idc.
when i saw "hall for larsson" today, i thought it was ekman-larrson
i was worried because that would've been a fucking steal for the oilers
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THEY HAVE NOW JEOPARDIZED THE REAL TARGET
HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
>HEDMAN TO THE LEAFS 2017
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>>69071498
Canadian hockey "minds" think that Center is a more valuable position than winger.
>>69071670
we needed that position filled and we used one of our excess forwards to do it
the price was high and it remains to be seen if larsson can actually be what chia thinks
the reality is that we couldnt go into next season without addressing the defense
>>69071738
Lmao pls anon, your team got btfo with a garbage trade
>>69071738
I was just wondering. Because it seems like there's been just this one dude going on and on. Cool beans tho.
>>69071699
Holy shit anon this is a literal perfect comparison. Hall is better than JVR and larsson is better than schenn but same shit.
>>69071640
Oilers have a shitload of depth on the offense, why not trade some of them for a top-2 D when you suck defensively? There's a reason why you're not a GM, dumbass.
>>69071750
>laffs
>Trade Hall
>Stuck with Meme face still
>>69071756
i dont see how trading a 20 goal winger for a top pairing D is bad. in fact, thats great value.
>>69071741
OEL is so based. Shame he will waste his career in phoenix
>>69071773
Disagree. JVR for Schenn made no sense because Schenn was a bottom six dman at best.
Larsson was on the top pairing, can actually skate a bit
>>69071771
That other guy is kinda undervaluing Hall. He is better than he is saying.
>>69071756
Whatever man that's the beauty of sports. People have differing opinions.
>>69071790
Larsson isn't a top 2 D yet and may never get there.
>>69071827
actually, every metric suggests you are wrong.
>>69071790
This. It was a good trade for both sides. Quit jerking it to Hall and take a look at the bigger picture.
>>69071827
and taylor hall has been riddled with injuries throughout his career
>>69071573
he's a carreer .85ppg player in the second dead puck era. That's hard to find
>See Hall traded for Larsson
>Think we got OEL for a second
>Reminded we got someone we could have drafted in 2011
>Still have RNH, Eberle, Yakupov, MemePoopjarvoface, Frenchy on our team
>mfw
>>69071809
The optics of the trade are bad. Hall is a much better player than Larsson, the fact its a 1 for 1 is why its bad.
>>69071857
he's a 20 goal winger. p much every team has at least 4 of those
>>69071753
Do you think Draisaitl would have gotten you Larsson? Would you rather have lost Draisatil over Hall if it were possible?
WE GOT OUR DEFENSEMEN BOYS, OIL COUNTRY TAKING THE CUP HOME NEXT SEASON FOR SURE
>>69071573
>delusion
Hall is basically a younger Phil Kessel, but grittier
>>69071873
>it's an oilers fan that just wants to continue to horde offense and ignore the defense
Ebin my friend
what did he mean by this
>>69071891
And larsson is a middle pairing defenseman. Can't you find those in the 3rd round?
>>69071877
the optics of any trade are arbitrary
>>69071916
I don't know but sounds like complete bullshit if you ask me
>>69071916
>~P2
Probably a third pairing bust
>>69071844
Nah he's good but he's not Hall good. They could have at least gotten a pick out of it or something too.
>>69071852
True
>>69071827
The point is that Oilers is sooo full of offensive minded forwards, where are you gonna play them all with mr. meme coming to the lineup for next season? And Larsson is definitely top 2, at least in Oilers.
>>69071903
do you watch nhl hockey?
>>69071895
draisaitl wouldnt have gotten larsson
>>69071943
I think most people here don't desu senpai
>>69071916
bullshit, if they shopped hall to nj i can guarantee that they shopped hall to everyone
>>69071917
actually, he's a top pairing D.
>>69071943
Nice meme
>>69071968
Nice meme
>>69071966
What? Do you think people on the internet would lie? :^)
>>69071916
>make that trade
>package those two 1st rounders + Nurse or Klefbom, throw in Eberle if need be
>walk away with Pietrangelo/Burns/player of that calibre
>>69071978
>>69071984
Nice meme
>>69071939
Could they really not have made a package for him around Eberle instead?
>>69071997
>make that trade that does not exist
>>69071997
>>69072013
Anyone here could have made a better trade than Chiarelli did.
>>69072004
Jersey tells you to fuck off if you're not offering up Hall or Drai+
his value to NJ > his value to other teams
lets go oilernation
>>69072004
ebs is so overrated its not even funny
>>69072025
Okay what do you suggest then? Make sure it is realistic.
that nhl executive was prob a half in the bag don sweeney and he offered 2 first rounders in 2023 and 2024 and dennis seidenberg for hall
>>69072067
not even the most lopsided trade today tbqh
>>69072039
agreed, the trade makes us better, when mcdavid is hoisting the cup next season people will understand
>>69072067
false
>>69072067
Fucking fleeced
What is the better city to live in?
Calgary or Edmonton?
hall for hamonic, pulock, 1st
i cant wait to see who toronto gives up to get their top pairing rhd
marner?
How come the Kings arnt making a splash in the free agency?
>>69072071
agreed lol
>>69072073
Who knew that all the Oil was missing was Adam Larsson and Lucic before they could be a cup winning team.
>>69072109
Calgary. Closer to the mountains and you get the occasional chinook in the winters
>>69072123
It hasn't started and they have no cap space because of Duthtin Brown
>>69072109
Calgary, it's cleaner and less natives
>yfw Marc "the frog" Bergevin got fleeced by David "the cyclops" Poile
>>69072123
No one wants Duthin Brown.
>>69072114
"no"
>>69072004
Maybe they have their prospect pool in a shape where they don't want to shake it up too much and if you have the luck of Edmonton, you really don't want to trade a lot of picks away.
I dunno, I still think it's a good trade.
>>69072123
because it hasn't opened yet you stupid stinky bean monger
>>69072118
Still wouldn't be as bad as Taylor Hall for ADAM LARSSON
>>69072109
calgary is warmer but the city is laid out like some kindergarteners attempt at sim city, although its gotten better with stoney trail
edmonton is so fucking comfy to travel around
id say edmonton
>>69072144
they already made a worse trade i.mo
>>69072109
lived in calgary for a "good" part of my life
calgary is better
>>69072143
No he didnt you stupid fucking redditfaggot.
Weber is hands down a better defenseman than subban.
>>69072159
20 goaler for a top pairing shutdown defenseman
>>69072159
not even a bad trade if you have more than 3 brain cells
>>69072139
>>69072143
Can't the Kings buy him out or trade him ?
>>69072190
>Habs fans have memed themselves into delusion already
>>69072165
Let me come live there
>>69072048
EDM gets Larsson
NJ gets EDM's second round 2017 draft pick and a used zamboni
Montreal is a fucking bust. Bergevin got absolutely taken to the cleaners, fleeced
>>69072165
>edmonton is so fucking comfy to travel around
Nigga do you even live in Edmonton? The ring road is brand new, Edmonton was and still is one of the worst cities to drive in.
>>69072213
Nice meme tripcunt
>>69072195
>trade
no one is taking that anchor
>buy out
Ownership probably doesn't want to pay it and the GM doesn't want the dead money. Better plant some drugs on him if you want him gone
>>69072190
Oh I'm so sorry for you anon
>>69072183
Eh bitch give me dat ANE and I'll take you to Pete's after, bae.
>>69072165
lel wtf is up with the road layout here?
>>69072210
your welcome to my futon, ive sat on it maybe twice since i bought it
>>69072109
Calgary looks nicer, but is full of dickheads and hipsters and the layout is fucking retarded. It's set up in quadrants, so there are four different '35th Streets' in completely different corners of town. Plus the Saddledome is fucking garbage.
Edmonton is uglier, but it's full of working class, down to earth people. And the layout is pretty much god-tier - it's set up as a gigantic grid, with two big ring roads circling the city. And the new arena is almost done.
Edmonton all the way.
>>69072264
BTFO so bad they will never recover again.
>>69072225
well youre a fucking retard then, so piss off
>>69072260
Would weedman let me in? I'm not brown
I'm bored of life down here desu
>>69072225
It's a grid, ya fuckwit. If you miss a turn, just take the next one and you'll still get to wherever you're going.
>>69072264
>may the rebuild last forever
marc bergevin just got his ass spanked raw by that mastermind in nashville lol. p.k. is gonna be spitting chewing tobacco into a ten gallon hat while hill billies play banjo and hoot on a jug for him and shea weber is going to have to eat smelly cheese and then freeze to death while little men with funny mustaches mispronounce his name and smack him with loafs of bread. bergevin just got FLEECED
>>69072264
accurate and fair
>>69072193
2 time top 10 point producer in the league and a 3 time 25 goal scorer for a 4th defenseman. Taylor Hall had more shots on goal this year alone than Larsson has had in his entire career.
lol the haps
>>69072294
>not having the webm saved
>>69072308
Wow, didn't know they were trading for a defenseman because they wanted shots on goal
kek
>>69072308
larsson is a top pairing shutdown D and taylor is a 20 goal winger
>>69072285
>>69072291
Driving around isn't the problem, it's the other people on the road
>>69072289
>screencapping only the top of the article
poor form
>>69072342
He's only just played his first full season. Let's pump the fucking brakes on saying he's a definitive top pairing shutdown D.
>>69072344
Every city in the world is full of shit drivers, dude.
>having a general in the dead of the offseason
>>69072313
does ES actually come in tetrapacks
>>69072371
>choosing a day where a bunch of shit happened to say this
Poor form my friend
>>69072365
he's
>>69072371
We aren't even into free agency yet, you fuckwit.
>>69072206
>>69072239
Im not a habs fan im just not an idiot.
You can immediately tell if someone is a casual if they think Subban is better than Weber.
>>69072290
i dont know how exciting it would be for you here, but hey if you ever make it to edmonton theres a new futon with your name on it
does anyone else think the trade is better for Montreal than all of the whiners seem to think?
>>69072371
we literally went through 4-5 threads today because of news
>>69072417
Weber's a better fit
>>69072392
Is this a BLACKED photo? send link to video if you can please.
>>69072398
> I see you are trying to trigger me m8
>>69072416
I don't know, Michigan is kinda boring but I suppose I would be just as bored elsewhere.
>>69072342
Vlassic, an actual first pairing shut down dman, had twice as many points and shots as Larsson and didn't have a PIM a game like Larrson did.
>>69072351
people know where it's from, cmon now
>>69072398
I don't need to think Subban is better, it's just objectively true
>>69072425
he's also a better player
>>69072371
i'm kinda surprised
i left, went out, and like 3 threads died by the time i returned
i didn't know people hung around in the house all day on a week day work day
lmfao the only thing subban is number one at is giveaways in his own zone
>>69072449
>he doesn't post from work
Step it up
>>69072449
It's so much easier to shitpost on mobile nowadays
shea weber is bad, pk subban is good. fact not opinion. end of discussion
who will look most wrong?
>weber in habs jersey
>hall in devils jersey
>subban in perds jersey
>trading away your 2nd best player for a literal who
>>69072002
>rags
>>69072449
i was posting from work all day
>>69072472
Wow you convinced me. I am now in the #SubbanClan
>>69072472
this is true
>>69072479
casual hockey fan spotted
>>69072438
brad marchand is objectively a better goal scorer than taylor hall
>>69072483
on the computer or on mobile?
how do people browse this shit on mobile? the screen is fucking small and you have to scroll forever
i don't get the whole chinannigans. Hall would have just slowed down Mcmeme and Pulju. The guy has no hockey iq whatsoever.
>>69072500
Fact not opinion
>>69072472
just in case u need facts tho
>>69072509
Open your eyes
>>69072509
Are you autistic?
Hall trade was good, shitheads. Larsson is a great defenseman.
reminder that Hall for Subban would have made more sense for both teams
>>69072509
>the screen is fucking small
Your eyes are in permanent squint, how can you not see the fucking screen, bro?
>>69072500
Marchand has a ring
end of discussion
>>69072509
mobile, the size doesnt bother me and it refreshes at the bottom of the page
it just sucks not having access to 45gb of images
>>69072524
Do Hall and Larsson next, thanks.
Threadly reminder that Erik Karlsson would not be in the NHL if he were average offensively.
>>69072530
who the fuck spends hours browsing a thread?
the only time i post on mobile is when something happens and i just leave a post and close the thread and don't bother reading replies + other comments in the thread
>>69072524
This chart doesn't show that Weber suppresses shot quality:
http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-measuring-d-by-quality-of-shots-against-1.391447
but the Preds as a team are very good at it so it might be systemic rather than something Weber does
And Subban is still better
In retrospect, the Subban trade was good only because Fabbro or Dougherty are going to be 1st line defensemen in 3 or 4 years
Short term though it might fuck up with retaining James Neal or Ryan Johansen though
>>69072559
I don't know I can read past a 3rd grade level so it doesn't take me hours to read through a thread.
>>69072524
doesn't take into account deployment, zone starts, qoc, or the sort of system the players play in (nsh purposely siphons offense to the boards and gives up a ton of low pctg. shots just like lemaire and julien's systems. even makes their goalers look better than they actually are on paper.)
casual stats for casual fans pig disgusting
>>69072190
Are you from 3 years ago?
Weber just came off the worst season of his career and has been declining the past two seasons. Hes 31 and is signed with Montreal until hes 40. Subban is in his prime at 27.
>>69072557
Threadly reminder that if Kane was average offensively he wouldn't be in the NHL.
>>69072500
Taylor hall has had 50 assists in a season and doesn't have a big nose.
>>69072578
Get lost you degenerate pedo faggot no-one wants to hear your worthless opinions.
>>69072431
>american flag
Yeah, absolute casual
>>69072441
casual
i'm exaggerating, but i barely read threads unless there's an image next to a post
i don't even read half my replies most of the time
>>69072600
Funny thing is you can be average offensively as a defenseman and still be a top 4 guy, as long as you're good defensively. Karlsson is shit defensively.
so /hoc/ explain to someone who rarely watches canadiens games
what's the point of trading a franchise defenseman the fan base loves and is good PR to anotehr franchise defenseman? what does weber offer they needed?
>>69072578
If they'll be 1st pairing defenseman, wouldn't having Weber for cheaper in the short-term be better?
>>69072578
>Short term though it might fuck up with retaining James Neal or Ryan Johansen though
It won't. They will get the money that Fisher and Ribeiro are taking up right now.
>>69072524
>per 60
weber has the ability to play more minutes per night than suban so that doesn't matter.
>>69072556
>>69072587
>deployment/zone starts
>qoc
those average out to noise over the long haul anon
they amount to nothing for defensemen who play half the game anyway
>>69072572
>shot quality
>as if its a thing
>>69072614
>calls people casual when hes wrong
ayyyy
>>69072635
Are you living in 2010? Everyone now agrees shot quality is real. That's why we have xG and shit because they're trying to figure out how it incorporate it.
>>69072589
>Weber just came off the worst season of his career
pretty sure he got the same total points as PK did
>>69072606
taylor hall has cartoonishly bloated monkey lips and plays with infinity draft lottery forwards. he also has 0 cups. he also is objectively an inferior goal scorer, to brad marchand
>>69072635
>he doesn't believe in shot quality
>>69072628
Meat and potatoes
