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Previous thread: >>68752778

News:

>NSAC approves early weighins
http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/story/ufc-200-nevada-commission-approves-early-weigh-ins-upcoming-events-062116

>Nobody tested positive for anything at UFC 197
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/6/20/11980544/all-ufc-197-drug-tests-come-back-negative

>UFC denies sale rumors
http://mmajunkie.com/2016/06/ufc-exec-says-reports-of-ufc-sale-are-false-internal-email-to-staff-offers-same-message

>GSP wants an easy win at MW
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/6/21/11985036/georges-st-pierre-wants-michael-bisping-title-fight-as-first-choice

>Frankie Perez unretires
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/6/20/11979038/frankie-perez-announces-an-end-to-his-retirement-argues-hes-ready-for
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Schaub
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You are such a fucking literal aspie
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Real thread here boys
>>68769146
>>68769146
>>68769146


you're welcome
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Active thread is here
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>mfw I realized Rothwell will KO Werdum, Stipe, Fedor, and Cain in that order
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>>68769322
Calm down sperg
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>>68769337
>>68769341
kill yourselves
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9th for Joanna
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In 3 weeks we will be buried in embeddeds, breakdowns, and previews
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god I love memes
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>>68769390
>OMG I HAVE TO MAKE THIS THREAD WILL ALL THESE LINKS AND EVENTS NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT OR ELSE ILL GET MAD

You legit have autism
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>>68769322
>this angry downie
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>>68769401
J O A N N A
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>>68769466
shes so beautiful and majestic
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>post yfw when DC jumps in Jones' guard and gets triangled
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>>68769544
it's like fighting gollum
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>>68769536
>OMG THE OP HAS TO HAVE LE FUNNY MEMES NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT OR ELSE ILL GET MAD

lmaoing at your life kid
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>>68769537
Nice samefag

>he doesnt like my tryhard thread wahhhhhhh!!

Gayboy
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Roman just failed a drug test do you think Brock will too?
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>>68769605
>other thread has 5 replies

BTFO
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The greentext, the lmaoing, the OPs...

He got that from me.
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>>68769587
>mfw jones has it locked in and DC sucks his way out
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>>68769604
Nobody said that, you just make bloated OPs no one cares about all day desperately and if no one does you start sperging out like you are now

>anigay
Point proven
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USADA didn't change Claudia

How does she cheat with her 15 pesos per year?
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threadly heeminder
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>>68769666
You're the one sperging out and pacing around your room because the thread doesn't have funne memes in it friendo
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>>68769695
the secret is in the way the female body metabolizes testosterone
it's easier to hide in different ways, and obviously USADA hasn't caught on yet
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>>68769611
>WWE has suspended Joe Anoa`i (Roman Reigns) for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company's talent wellness policy

what did they mean by this?
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>>68769569
Agreed
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>>68769722
lol please stop spamming this
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>>68769215

remember that time you were a massive pussy lol
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>>68769733
>no you!!!!

Face it, you're a giant sperg who invests his entire life into worthless shit no one even fucking reads lol, you literally type out all those news and then no one fucking reads it lmao

And now you're crying because I call you a sperg kek
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>>68769897
>>>/asp/

Fresh free fight

RDA vs Jason High: https://youtu.be/-pVMpSUovWs
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>>68769897
he's just too damn good looking
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>>68769544
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>>68770047
I thought OP was the American sperg?
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>>68769215

Why is ufc so gay?
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>>68770208
looks like the tryhard to me bud
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IMPORTANT POLL REGARDING THE FUTURE OF /HEEM/

http://www.strawpoll.me/10548000
http://www.strawpoll.me/10548000
http://www.strawpoll.me/10548000
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>>68770222
contact is encouraged not refballed
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>>68770222
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>>68769601
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>>68770237
http://archive.4plebs.org/sp/thread/68462084/#68462648

Same person imo
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>>68770368
lol is that one of the numerous threads that me made like 80 posts in?
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>>68770335
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>>68770032

it is important
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>>68769666
nice trips Satanas
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>>68770267
You have to have an opttion for "No News" as well
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>>68770409
its one of the ones the mods decided to delete instead of just deleting the shitposts lol
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>>68769215
Thanks OP. I appreciate it. And so do many others.These threads are generally shit without news. Devolving into shits posts and feels trash.
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>>68770368
I can personally confirm that I am the same person
How's Bork going to get heemed by Hunt lads
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adan
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>>68770629
Yesss American sperg confirmed
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>>68770445
What's the meaning of posting this on /heem/?
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Be careful
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Pretty decent card so far, didn't have high hopes when it was announced
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>>68769695
which team would win?
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>>68770724
>INSALLAH
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>>68770724
Would trumps ban on muslims stop him from fighting in the U.S.?
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>>68770714

>666

props.

we're still on 4chan dumbnuts
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>>68770832
No because he lives in Russia. He will just temporarily ban immigration from countries like Syria.
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>>68770843
no he posts that picture all the time
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fuck u goof
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Vitor Belfort actually supported Ben Carson, interesting
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nevar forget serbian fashion
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>>68770884
nigger i think you need to get help

seems to me your fucking turbo autism is giving you too much asspain for nothing
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>>68771099
i miss him
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aaaaaaadaaaaan

where are you

i need to find you adan

where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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>>68771181
is that little girl your daughter?
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>Joe Rogan peer pressuring 13 years sober Russell Brand into doing DMT
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>>68771328

Damn Callen can bang
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I sometimes miss him too.


You guys have to give me props for being, without question, the absolute pound for pound best at making buddy sperg out lmao
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>>68771193
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_Canada
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>>68771427
lol he did that to Graham Hancock too
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>>68771342
i'm a wizard you dumbfuck
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>>68771611
Hancock clearly wanted to smoke.
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>>68771677
>it was ruining my life
>i almost lost my marriage

h-here...
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What does Jones have a problem with BJM reffing his fight?
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>>68771849
BJM isn't afraid to deduct points for eye poking
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>>68771926
Carvalho-Manhoef says hello
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who is the most overrated fighter of all time?
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>>68772010
Was about to bring it up. Don't remember John ever taking points. Mario Yamasaki will. But I don't think he's as good of a ref.
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>>68772155
Schaub
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>>68772155
Khabib
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>>68772155
Tie between BJ Penn and Ken Shamrock
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>>68772155
Jon "I'm a good fighter, I promise" Jones

his resume consists of old men and blown up middleweights
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>>68772155

the chris
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>>68772280
Did something happen in the divegrass match?
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Does anyone on here unironically think DC can beat Jones?
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>>68772155
nick diaz
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>>68772350
Shut up
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>>68770724
>I will not stop insALLAH

fuck this has spicy potential

huejesus vs russiajihad vol2

plz let it happen before rda gets beaten
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live,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InnRJIGfLFU
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>>68772155
Tony Ferguson
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>>68770047
You know there's more than one american on here, right?
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>>68770017
Me on the right
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>>68771849
Probably because when Vitor tried to to kick JBJ in the head when Jones was crawling to him BJM told Jones that he gets that for playing that game.
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>>68772634
>Russell Brand

No thanks.
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>>68772634
The literal embodiment of DUDEWEEDLMAO
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>>68770267
shitty poll
someone who doesn't care doesn't care either way
it should be between who wants it to have news and who doesn't
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>>68772634
NOT mma related
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>>68772155
CANE
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>>68771659
what the fuck is going on here
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>>68772155

Chris Weidman
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>Stipe wins
>Cleveland basketball team that never won wins
>Croatia BTFO Spain
>...?
will croatia win this euro lads?

>>68768258
I mostly agree with this guy
I'm still not convinced that what the UFC did was unethical, seeing as it is their right to hand out press credentials to their private events.
At the same time though, it's within the media's rights to bitch and moan in order to get the UFC to reverse its decision

>>68768865
tbf, and I can't speak about sports journalism in other countries, but sport journalism here in italy, esp divegrass, is absolutely disgusting
>headlines using quotes that are paraphrased
>constantly distorting/creating narratives
>constant reports of "holy shit this deal is confirmed done 100%" that end up being false
>constant click-baiting of the highest order

MMA journalism is pulitzer prize in comparison
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>>68769611
Holy shit I've not been keeping up with mandrama but that's huge
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>>68773027

>>Croatia BTFO Spain

I didnt watch the match. Was it a meme win?
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Cerrone is now one of MY BOYS(glad he got on the gas). You guys think if he continues to get his shit together he could bang at WW? Or should he stay at LW?
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>>68773027
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>>68772350
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>>68773129
Cerrone can bang at WW
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>>68773102
i literally found out about it from my mother

she said "my man just got in trouble"
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>>68773171

>winged belt

based
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>>68773027
Stipe Mememagić
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>>68773117
Spain almost won by refball (got a gifted penalty) but fucked it up and Croatia won deservingly
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Fighter pay fags BTFO

>"She will be bonused for that fight," White said on the Unfiltered podcast. ‘There were so many good fights that night, people were going crazy, ‘how did she not get [a bonus],' and it's true. Me and Lorenzo were saying, how the hell did that skip us, she should have got a bonus.

>"In that 115-pound division, you don't see finishes, the way she finished Valerie," White continued. "And, Valerie went five rounds with Joanna Jędrzejczyk, Joanna didn't do that to her. We're going to take care of her, and we're going to sign her to a new deal."

You guys have this stupid notion in your head that Dana doesn't care about the fighters. I don't know where that comes from but he does.
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>>68773226
My sister also keeps up with mandrama, but says MMA is boring
I guess women like the soap opera element of it
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>>68773129
If he wants to be a journeyman forever then he can jump between but if he wants to win he has to be at LW. He clearly still has the skills to compete and looked brilliant against Cote but against the top WWs his size might be a problem.

Assuming Tony Ferguson wins against Chiesa maybe line that up, that would be great fight. If RDA wins Khabib will probably get the shot so that would work out perfectly.
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>>68773331
bonus = spare harley that dana's kid got tired of
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>>68773027
>will croatia win this euro lads

well the brackets are very easygoing for Croatia so I guess they will at least make the final

Good team though,I like the way they play kinda oldschool hard and aggressive
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>>68773331
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>>68773372
Your sister is a dumb bitch.
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>>68773372
M I A M I
I
A
M
I
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>>68772155
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>>68773470
get a dog bro
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>>68773331

>It isn't until a fighter goes on social media and complains about low pay that Dana pulls out his check book
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>Now it's time for me to tell you about Young Nastyman, archrival and nemesis of Wonderboy, with powers comparable to Wonderboy.

Was Rory Nastyman? Or is it Lawler?
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How would wonderboy vs Nick Diaz go?
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>>68773681
The Immortal One
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>>68773767

Thompson by decision
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Didn't mean to attach that pic, sry
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>>68773442
damn

load of bullshit desu
>get first place
>face Spain or Croatia
>get 2nd place
>face hungary
unfair
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>>68773652
>Fighter who fights once a year and uses a camp on the other side of the planet can't afford a training camp
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>>68773924

>Here's $10,000 for showing upto fight. We'll call you in September if something opens up
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>>68773888
>afraid to play a team that just lost to fuckin Croatia

Grow up lad.
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>>68773880
I forgive you
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>>68773681
Rory
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Fighters from Saturday’s UFC Fight Night 89 event took home UFC Athlete Outfitting pay, a program that launched after the UFC’s deal with Reebok, totaling $120,000.

The amount pushes the total paid by the program in its first year past the $6 million mark.
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>>68773888
that because fucking UEFA power standings are a meme pretty much like the p4p rankings

also current format with 24 teams is absolutely shit
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>>68774116

The current format is why there have been so many 0-0 draws and the tournament is a general bore to everyone, cause then teams can just play for draws and know that they will be safe. No incentive to win at all.
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>>68774001
>Fights in a division that doesn't exist
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>>68774218
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>>68774099
>Fighters are entitled to ad-space
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>>68774099
Nothing wrong with that desu. Deal was for seventy million. All of it going to the fighters as Dana and Lorenzo don't make anything off of it. Still a lot more money out there for grabs.
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If you could choose any UFC fighter to die tomorrow, who would you choose?
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>>68771849
lol and DC doesn't want Herb Dean

So, what, are they both working together to get based Marc Goddard?
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>>68774022
I'm just saying, the brackets are a little funky

I mean worst case scenario for Croatia is to face portugal in the Ro16, then switzerland/poland in the QF, then between wales/turkey/NIR, hungary/iceland/por and prob belgium (read: literally whos)
Meanwhile other half of tournament has Italy, Spain, Germany, England, France
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>>68774372

Wales are bringing it home.
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>>68774185
yeah, some really boring group stages
3rd place teams should fuck off
should just let in more teams so only 2nd placed teams pass
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>>68774342
None you weirdo
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>>68774342
Khabib
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>>68774433

>Italy's road to the final could be Spain, then Germany then France

Condolences pham.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H8HmbK8lGI

name a worse ufc video
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>>68773331
great fight kid, heres $500 and some reebok gear
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>>68774342
Khabib
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>>68774342
None, weirdo
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>>68774526
desu, I'm surprised and satisfied we made it out the group stages at all, our team is the most shit it's probably ever been
no good strikers
ok midfield missing verratti and marchisio
only thing good is defence
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>>68774469
be
very
careful
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>>68774530
How much do newbie fighters make in the UFC? Isn't it like 20k win or lose? Shit nigga, better have a Dayjob too.
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>>68774699
Fuck off
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>>68774713
>>68774713

>20k

Try 10k
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>>68774713
isn't it 10k show, 10k win?
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>>68774770
Highway Robbery.
>>68774787
I think that's where I was getting 20k

How the hell does one afford all the camps and training? Are they cheaper than what one would assume?
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>>68774787
That is the current base. If the Ali act passes for mma most fighters making that much would be making way less. The UFC straight up is paying fighters who don't actually have any value as an individual just to fill cards.
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>>68774885
People that get thier heads punched in for money probably dont have a lot of financial sense.
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>this jre
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>>68774787
yeah unless they have drawing power from the get go
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>>68774660
"our team is the most shit it's probably ever been"

I think i've heard this every two years since i've started watching football over a decade ago
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>>68774975
is it a feel the bern while we live in our mansions episode?
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>>68775035
no, dude consciousness lmao
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>>68774946
>If the Ali act passes for mma most fighters making that much would be making way less.
y?

>>68775030
we were a GOAT team up until 06 desu
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There will be 40 consecutive years of international goalkeeping domination by a gianluigi

>>68774975
>watching JRE
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>>68770724
BASED KHABIB
RDA SHOOK CONFIRMED
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>>68774257
I honestly hope Val gets fucking cut after this bullshit
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>>68774885

That's why you make sure you get a good deal when you sign up and don't agree to fight for literally free cause that's what you do when you agree to take a 10k to show fight deal. Unless you pretty much train yourself to fight and have a side job that pays well, that is beyond stupid to do as a career choice.
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>>68770743
>That Weber Meek fight
>Gus on the card
>Based Arlovski and Barnett
good shit t.bh lads
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>>68773389
Cerrone should honestly fight Rory at 170.
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>>68775166
This
Gonde should've called him instead of Marchetti
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>>68774975

brands' not that smart, he just talks a lot

he believes some weird things, like the idea that the reality does not exist unless you percieve it...

or there are mysterious energies that we can't see - duh what are particles...
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What is the secret of Wonderboy's power?
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>>68775362
same as heem's


boys
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anyone have the "I can't let you get close" webm?
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>>68775362
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a46035/michael-jackson-underage-porn-report/
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>>68775379
My fellow countryman
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>>68775291
Isn't Rory going to Bellator? If the same Cerrone that fought Cote showed up, your boy will be perma-heemed.
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>>68773331
Bonus = Unlimited Free Reebok Pumps
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>Joe is always high
>can't remember his children
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>>68775291
Cerrone would fuck Rory's shit up adan
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>>68775398
>putting Rosholt in a comain
what the fuck were they thinking
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did USADA delete Wowy?
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>>68775442
It's okay for Rory to lose to Cowboy, friend. As long as it's a good fight and Rory gets to have fun in the ring.

He was disappointed on Saturday and he doesn't deserve that. He deserves an opponent that will bang.

>>68775431
lol good one eh
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>>68775351
definitely, this is bro philosophy at its finest

desu i always thought brand was a bit of an asshole, but from this he does seem like a decent person under all the craziness
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>>68770267
http://www.strawpoll.me/10548908

here actual totally optional opinion survey that should decrease OP bloat and decrease shitty OPs in general
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>>68775238
Nobody asked for Vitor to get cut after JBJ dropped him with a kick to the ribs
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>>68772155
BJ Penn is literally overrated: the fighter
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>>68775476
I doubt it. Rory won't be fighting for a while because of his nose anyway. Hopefully he comes back in good form.
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>>68774257

I still don't understand what the fuck she was doing that whole fight. It seemed like she didn't wanna fight.
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>>68775281
p4p best fight dog Maximus
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The ufc is actually having a guy who hasn't fought in 2 (two) years challenge for the title
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By UFC standards how do you rate Rory's athleticism
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>>68772155
All heavyweights. Most middleweights.
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>>68775551
honestly one of the shittiest arguments I've ever seen on here
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>>68772155
Sadly starting to think Fedor. He will always be a legend and one of my favorites, but in a lot of ways he was just an early, extremely well rounded fighter with (in his prime) an insane chin.
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>>68775670
I don't give a FUCK
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>>68775634
are you talking about ehhhhhhhh?
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Is Serra-Longo a meme gym?
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why is Wilson Reis fighting DJ?
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>>68775634
it happens. look at cain, shit, there are alot of fighters who haven't fought in 2 years out there.

i kinda wish rankings and fights in ufc were like fightmatrix where they drop you for being inactive for a couple quarters
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>>68775600
>Rory won't be fighting for a while because of his nose anyway.
and his kid too don't forget
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>>68775658
USADA'd/10

>>68775718
Weidman left it
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>>68775720

Cain fought last year
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>>68775634
He fought last February
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>>68775493
It won't be ok when he gets his shit knocked loose again. His nose his fucked.
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>>68775658
similar to Weidman's
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>>68775720
lol
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>>68775720
yeh but tyron has a two fight win streak where one of the wins was a split decision against kelvin fucking gastelum
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>>68775074
>If the Ali act passes for mma most fighters making that much would be making way less.
>y?

I think he means that the UFC would cut a majority of the low level fighters on their roster rather than paying them more than 10k/10k. Meaning they would have to fight in smaller orgs and make less money.
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>>68775719
so DJ can finish his bingo board of top 15 flyweight fighters

or maybe it's to save DJ from ending joe's career
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>>68775746
No he didn't
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>>68775719
They're running out of people in FW
They were actually considering having a TUF winner fight him
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>>68775772
Donald Cerrone is a perma gatekeeper bud lol
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>>68775719
idk but i'm all for DJ nuking more grapplers
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>>68775785
who hill has beaten lately inflates shit, fightmatrix has some odd moments, like when cowboy beat alverez, jury, bendo in a very short time peroid
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Go here when this thread is done ;)
>>68775864
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>>68775852

You guys said the same for Bisbong.
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>>68775852
m8 donald cerrone is on the same track as bisbong just 4-5 years behind, give it time and he'll win some belt when no one sees it coming.
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>>68772155
Cain has been overrated since the UFC and the Press anointed him the next great Heavyweight
Jones because he's so obviously never been close to P4P #1
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Wow. People are shitting on the MacDonald-Wonderboy fight.
If you're shitting on that fight fucking stop.
Stop watching fights. Go watch something else you fucking weirdos.
If you didn't like that fight there's something mentally wrong with you and you don't know a fucking thing about fighting.
You are a fucking moron.
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>68775852
donald cerrone is new bisbing

the cont became king, so what do we call cerrone? the duke?
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>>68775870

It's not who, it's how.
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>>68775888
and you realize the ridiculous list of coincidences it took for him to even get a shot right?
Yoel popped
Jacare needed surgery
Weidman needed surgery

and Bisping was coming off a controversial decision over Anderson; anyone else and he wouldn't have gotten it
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>>68775852
>Gatekeepers can't fuck anyone up
>Bisping
>Diaz
Cowboy has the potential to win a title in a few years. I think you're just mad that your boy is done.
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When is he replacing Rogan?
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>>68775898
Who would you say is better than him, other than Cruz and DJ?
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>>68775931
it's literally who, most of these fight calcs put value on beating shit, and it build open over the years, thus making all time p4p lead heavily by modern fighters
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>>68775719
Best contender left
Benavidez- lost twice, heemed last time and looked like shit against Makovsky
Cejudo- Just got BTFO
Formiga- coming off a loss
Horiguchi- already lost to MM, he'll get a rematch in the future though
McCall- coming off a loss and already fought two, losing one to MM
Moraga- already memed on, coming off a loss
Makovsky- coming off a loss

Reis is also primarily really just a placeholder so MM can get a fight inbetween 197 and the TUF finale in December so that the UFC can increase Flyweight exposure on a major card and give MM a decent opponent so it can make it seem like he has a decent fight

tl;dr Flyweight exposure, especially for TUF 24
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>>68775970
>Cowboy has the potential to win a title

The same potential as Urijah Faber
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>>68775482
I think the UFC were expecting Roy to KO Roshit in the first. Except it ended up being one of the worst fights in recent memory (for me)
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>>68775513
the worst harbingers of evil are "decent people" with bad ideas.
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>>68775897
>>68775925

Buds I like both, but Cerrone is overrated

Bisping has never been overrated. Cerrone has beaten some great fighters, don't get me wrong, but he is also a bit of a can crusher.
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>>68775834
http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/2/17/11039954/former-ufc-middleweight-champion-chris-weidman-training-with-mark
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>>68775975
Cruz and DJ. RDA too. Aldo too. Just stylistically, they all poop on Jones. Jones has profited from being the only truly great big fighter since Fedor. People love the big great fighters, in Boxing and MMA. The Heavyweights haven't been able to provide one since Fedor, so Jones is the next best thing. He's a great winner but not even close to being the best, pound for pound.
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>>68776029
#whoa
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>>68776038

he cross trains, the gyms are pretty close by. Longo talked about how great Mark Henry is.
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>>68776038
>Weidman says he has not left the Long Island-based Serra-Longo team
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>>68775970
Cowboy will never win a title and, unless they make the Henderson rematch, Bisping will never defend it.
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>>68776001
more then faber, he's smarter and better rounded

faber basically only had physical superiority in his power, not very technical. cowboy has layers of technical skill if he actually uses it in all his game
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