Is soccer already more popular than baseball in the USA?
(just cheking)
No.
Soccer's been the sport of the future for two generations. There it will stay forever.
Yeah, in most places.
>>66481140
LOL not even close Austria
baseball is more relevant even in the offseason for us
Lemme break it down for you paco.
America is such a huge country that we have things called regions. Soccer is big in a few regions such as Washington and Oregon. Baseball is big in more of these regions.
Furthermore, many of the places that have soccer followings are still out viewed and out funded by baseball.
I'm here to help :^)
>>66481163
>>66481162
>>66481284
denial
Soccer is a nice sport in America, with an obscure following, just like Tennis or Skiing.
Sure, people get excited for big soccer tournaments like the World Cup, just like tennis tournaments like the US Open, but once that's over, everyone goes back to watching major sports like baseball or football.
>>66481140
that's for sure, and it will become even more popular
it's already the #1 practiced between boys in schools
Maybe in places like Portland and Seattle, but that's it.
>Soccer
>more popular than any of the Big 4
It's even behind hockey and a good part of the country couldn't care less about that
It's getting there. My wife's son recently said he and his friends were more excited about watching the Euro this summer than the World Series in fall.
>>66481337
Do you have the wife's son version?
>>66481284
That would be Peru
My wife's son (who is voting for Bernie) is a big fan of football (not American "football", mind you).
>>66481140
its not even close
>>66481140
In some area's maybe.
Here in Texas its pretty much in the same spot where people expected it to be.
Not part of the big four, but its getting there.
nope
>>66481420
>play sawker as a kid
>not allowed to head the ball
yea its really going places in amurica...
>>66481140
no one gives a shit about soccer
baseball is engrained in our blood
>>66481162
Whites will be a minority in the US by 2040's
Inevitably soccer will be the number one
>>66483471
spics seem to like boreball tho
>average age of World Series viewership: 54
>little league membership is in full collapse
yup
Isn't the average age of MLB viewers at like 60 now? I think they will have to change pretty drastically in the next 30 years once all the baby boomers are dead. Saying that I think hockey is more in danger of being overtaken by 'soccer', the average viewing figures of the Stanley Cup finals don't even break 4 million and the MLS cup final brings in about 1 million.
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>>66483526
Up here in Dallas Ranger crowds are like 40 percent hispanic. FC Dallas games are white hipsters and suburban families
>>66481140
No. I think it will overtake baseball and cuckhoop in 30 years though
>>66481420
It's a child's game here. People let kids play it because it is safe and requires relatively little strength. No high schoolers or even middle schoolers play it. Only small children
>>66481438
Hockey is closer to basketball than basketball is to baseball too
Soccer will pass it, it's just a statistical and demographics fact (based on current trends).
soccer is not even as popular as hockey
>>66483619
>tfw e-sports will be the number one children's sport in 5 years
>>66483795
Actually it is in the U.S.
>>66483471
Watch a Dodgers home game famalam, cholos love beisbol
>>66483843
It isn't, Gordo
>>66483670
>>66483670
>ESPN drew 668,000 viewers for Portland's 2-1 win over Columbus. That was down 31 percent from last year's audience for Los Angeles vs. New England, which was Landon Donovan's final game of his career. UniMás drew 300,000, down 51 percent from last year. Univision Deportes' simulcast drew 206,000, down 16 percent from last year.
Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About. MLS.
It gets 0 coverage on ESPN. FS1 forces an agenda since it covers a lot of soccer. Your local news only shows MLS when MLB and NBA is out of action, and it usually goes "Giants have an off day they play tomorrow in Atlanta the 49ers are in talks of a new quarterback, and Galaxy won 1-0 moving on!" You have a better chance of seeing 100 barcelona jerseys walking down a busy street before you see a single MLS shirt. Nobody ever talks about it in your typical workplace watercooler talks. You have bigger Man United and Bayern fans in the states then MLS, and thats because its hipsters that love playing FIFA, but these douchebags usually use terms like pitch and kits like the pretentious assholes they are. European soccer in embedded deep in its roots, just as college football is in ours, with the first game played in 1766 and every year since. Yuro's always argue about how our meme teams just relocate, and how they always cheer on their Ligue 3 Yankmydickshire City squad. Just as there are Alabama and USC fans, there are North Dakota State and Akron Zips fans. But MLS is what, 20 years old? It will takes probably take 30 years before it can be considered in the BIG 5 US sports.
>>66483690
FC Dallas play in Frisco
Thats the problem
Heres how it is:
1 Tons of people play soccer (not only girls).
2 Literally no one cares about the MLS, people kinda think you're weird if you do
3 People only watch soccer here if they follow the European leagues (which is a lot) or if the world cup is on.
It's more popular than baseball in the sense that more people will watch the world cup than the world series, but I doubt more people play soccer than baseball
>>66483888
The final got over a million views if you count UniMas too.
>>66481311
>Washington and Oregon are "regions"
>>66483970
Pac Northwest I guess :/
>>66481527
I second this
>>66483962
you say that like it's a lot
>>66481140
Nah. It's gotten more visibility over the past few years but it's still way, way far behind baseball at this point. It'd be lucky to touch hockey at this point.
No
. https://youtu.be/SwiZTPLxhls
https://youtu.be/SlNKLGMBqsU
Football
Baseball
Basketball/Hockey(depending on region)
Lacrosse
Field Hockey
Soccer
>>66484106
It's only 3 million behind the Stanley Cup final is all I'm saying, The World Series got 14 million per game last year, my point was that Hockey is more in danger of being overtaken by soccer rather than Baseball.
>>66484214
Hockey is only in danger because all these literally who meme teams like the lighting keep going deep in the playoffs. We need to see the ratings with northern and Canadian teams
>>66484159
>haha look at these people not knowing about something which isnt in their culture
>>66484272
I dont get why people get so bent out of shape over this. I bet the butthurt Brits in the comments are just as clueless about the NFL and MLB
i'd rather watch dancing with the stars than soccer
baseball is terrible too
>>66481140
No but it should be baseball is so boring, personally I think behind soccer that hockey is the best and most entertaining sport
>>66484378
you have plebe-tier taste
>>66484422
I think hockey is the best, soccer generally bc it is all around the world besides here but for me
Hockey
Football
Soccer
Baseball
>>66484159
dat azn
I've always wondered why basketball is ahead of hockey.
Hockey always outsells basketball tickets even when hockey tickets are like 4 times as much. The hockey general and hockey subreddit is more popular than the basketball ones.
Everyday I'll see meme shit like Florida Panthers vs New York Islanders gamethreads for hockey but you will never see a Utah Jazz vs Minnesota Timberwolves gamethread. And it seems like the only basketball game threads that exceed 100 posts are ones involving either Golden State or Cleveland.
Is it all because of basketball being aired on basic cable?
I mean they're both going to be replaced by soccer in 30 years but still
>>66483888
>MLS
no one watches that shit even here. The champions league probably gets 3x the viewers
>>66481140
Baseball is the 2nd most popular sport in the country, headed for #1 after concussions and pussification kill off the NFL. Soccer is like top 15 in popularity
>>66484513
pretty sure local ratings are similar for both sports. but nba is far more popular for national broadcasts. People just love the star power I guess, it's something they can easily talk about around the water cooler
and on the topic of local ratings, that is where baseball is strongest and the reason it's not being passed by any sport any time soon
>>66484543
No one cares about boreball outside your flyover shithole you Midwest fucktard
>>66484513
basketball is much easier for casuals and gets more TV attention.
>>66484513
hockey = cold weather fans
basketball = any weather fans
>>66484640
its pretty big in the northeast and chicago and atlanta desu. I would assume LA as well.
>>66484543
Top 15? You're fuckin ridiculous, do you go out any futher than just this board? Like actually go outside and talk to people
>top 15
>>66481140
Soccer will never surpass these sports in popularity until it gains a much larger following at the college and HS levels. If the popularity at these levels grows, then the money and the world class coaching will follow.
Also, shit youth academies but things have improved over time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_the_United_States#Popular_team_sports
If you look at the average salaries of American football's college coaches, it's $1,904,000 a year with the top coach making $$7,087,481 a year as of 2015.
Compare that to the average salary of NCAA Division 1 men's soccer coaches, it's $157,000 a year with George Gelnovatch making a little more than the average.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
http://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-10-highest-paid-coaching-positions-in-college-sports.html/?a=viewall
NCAA Division 1 Men's American Football/Basketball teams are pretty much the equivalent of soccer's U-21s and are the feeder leagues to our professional teams. Our high school teams are like our U-18s and they feed our college teams. They are the equivalent (quality-wise) of Europe's/Argentina's/Brazil's top youth academies in soccer.
Another statistic is attendance.
The average attendance for home games in the Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) was 46,000 fans per game.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/25418087/college-football-attendance-drops-for-fifth-straight-year-but-at-slower-rate
Compared to men's college soccer attendance of around 2,000.
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_soccer_RB/2015/2014attend.pdf
tl;dr, U.S. soccer needs to improve at the youth level both in quality and quantity. I think the increasing popularity/accessibility of the BPL/Champion's League here in the states has helped - along with the growth of MLS.
>>66484738
Yeah, I do, and literally nobody watches soccer. It's in the same boat as swimming. Once every couple years all the casuals and hipster trash suck off Michael Phelps for a few weeks, and then everybody goes back to not caring in the slightest
I think Hispanics are the only thing keeping baseball afloat in the southwest.
>>66485211
90% of the southwest are Hispanic.
>>66484174
/thread, though NASCAR and golf are also both ahead soccer here.
>>66481140
>spend forever watching game that ends in tie
There's a reason we'd rather watch commercials.
>>66483690
mckinney fag here
>>66481527
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>>66483455
t. Boreball autist
No one cares about luckswing. All those boreball wearing kids wear them as fashion statements because the boreball kikes were only able to market their fedora hats well
>>66490036
You sound mad about a superior sport
>>66484251
>hockey is in danger because teams outside of the area hockey is popular make the playoff
You're literally retarded mate. That's how a sport grows
>>66483928
>mls
european clubs have rich history and tradition
even ultras groups have longer history than any club in mls
Why do so many foreigners care about the state of soccer in the US?
And to answer your question, no, not even close.
>>66484513
black people
>>66481311
thinking anyone follows the dying "american past time"
>>66481438
thinking baseball is still popular
thinking the soviet union is still a thing
>>66483455
i dunno how to tell you this buddy but baseball hasn't been ingrained in our blood on forever. baseball has literally never been less popular than it is today
>>66483698
soccer is the most popular sport in most high schools in new york. declining interest in football thanks to fear of injury leads athletes to play soccer instead.
>>66483928
not that many people are even playing baseball anymore. i think more people are playing softball even
>>66484543
baseball has been declining in popularity for years now...
>>66496590
this
Your 2016 World Series champions.
>>66484513
Everyone has probably played basketball once in their life. Not everyone has had the chance to play hockey.
dang peru, did you fall?
let me help you up
>>66496694
hey! I just saw you in the general!
>>66496664
Why do people always say this without actually looking at the numbers? Baseball's TV ratings and attendances are growing, and continue to grow. The difference between Baseball and Football is that people only watch "their" team for Baseball. That's why ratings go down during the World Series; people don't watch it if their team isn't in it.
>>66496590
Isn't there a push to say divegrass also has a lot of concussions?
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/us-soccer-ban-heading-the-ball-for-children-over-fears-of-concussion-and-head-injuries-a6728341.html
>>66496725
The difference between baseball and football is that baseball is shit.
The world series got about the Same viewership numbers as the big bang theory
>>66481284
white male age 50+ detected
no one gives a shit about your boring as fuck sport old man
>>66496760
Some people are worried but most don't Care at al
hey both sports are great. Can't we all get along?
>"Muh divegrass is more popular than ur shitty sport in ur own country XD"
Fuck off Yuropoors.
>>66496838
so close to 0. literally cant wait
>>66496767
>>66496838
And last years MLS cup got 1.174 million viewers, 500k of which watched in spanish. Its not even close
>>66496895
r u doing ok lad?
Soccer isn't even top 5. For the last few years it's been:
1. NFL
2/3. MLB or college football
4. NASCAR
5. NBA
After that is hockey, soccer, golf, etc. anything other than this is just opinion.
Source: annual Harris poll. I'm on my phone but you can look it up.
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>>66496664
Holy shit the autism levels of this samefag
>m-maybe if I say it enough and ignore all facts, people will b-believe baseball is dying!
Not even close
>>66496838
How come the NBA, a league that is all about their stars, gets worse ratings for their all star game than baseball?
>>66497133
>>66497145
>>66497161
>literally proving it's a sport for children
lol you can't make this shit up
>>66497191
Because the allstar game is a load of piss. Stupid alleyoops and inane chucking. Last time people played actual basketball during the allstar game was when Detroit had a title contender.
>>66497172
>Change 1985-2015
Wasn't NASL 1.0 still going back then, with its superstar players and huge TV deals?
That would imply that soccer in the US has finally recovered from that league's implosion.
Fuck the Cosmos.
>>66497204
But people love >Muh dunks
I doubt they watch for actual basketball.
>>66497133
Heck yea volleyball is sick. I am biased as I played through college
>>66496767
>>66496838
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>>66497133
>>66497145
>>66497161
It's OK to admit you're autistic.
>>66497402
are you a girl?
>>66483443
Thats because they blame heading the ball for the reason's kids get all their head injuries not going full speed butting heads
>>66483471
Except spics don't watch MLS. Whites watch MLS.
Maybe soccer will be more popular, but it won't be the home league which draws "American" viewers.
its too split up, you cant judge footy in the US by mls views. firstly there are spics who prefer the mexican league, and secondly some other prefer the european league.
maybe the US national team would be a better level but i dunno
>>66498210
i am senpai
>>66499885
There are girls here?
>>66499934
Yep. 3/10 reporting in
>>66481140
Only football is more popular than baseball in the USA. Baseball still makes fucktons of money and is extremely popular locally.
idk where the baseball is dying meme came from but its literally making more money than it ever has before
>>66483526
yo cannot call soccer "boreball" when baseball is also in the topic. I'd allow it in any other context though.
>>66483698
Yup.Parents don't want to raise head injury induced retards anymore.
>>66481140
No divegrass is boring as fuck, only reason it is even on the rise is because of the massive influx of beaners.
I hear badminton is on the rise.
>>66496469
I despise baseball but gooks and cubans care about it also.
>>66481140
Not even close, even the NHL is far more profitable.
>>66481140
not even close
