/g/ has too long been infested with Windows gamer kiddies. It's time to purge them once and for all.
Any of the following regularly occurring topics on /g/ is either directly or indirectly about products for playing video games:
* Intel vs. AMD
* Nvidia vs. AMD
* Various types of rig/battlestation/guts/Speccy threads ("Which parts should I buy, /g/?" "Is this part good, /g/?" "Check out my specs, /g/.")
* Windows discussion and support (No one on /g/ talks about Visual Studio or Azure or Office 365 or anything by Microsoft that isn't related to video games, like DirectX)
These threads have nothing to do with programming, networking, security, privacy, freedom, design, usability, robotics, biotech, AI, space exploration, tech culture, or anything else /g/ related.
They and the people who post within them belong in either >>>/v/ or >>>/vg/, as they are the appropriate boards in which to discuss their hobby, along with "console war" and "PC vs. console" threads. This should be Rule #4 for /g/ and it should be aggressively enforced until the children finally get it and move on.
This is the thread to petition for removing the /v/ cancer from /g/. If you really care about technology and not just vapid consumerism, help by adding your voice to this discussion.
>>564784
/g/ doesn't discuss programming network, security, privacy, freedom, design, usability, robotics, biotech, ai, space exploration, or tech culture.
okay, maybe tech culture like that one time some black woman was harrassed by dongles or some shit.
the most /g/ does is set up porn ftps or install old or obscure os's to blog about it.
>>564784
Just browse the tech subreddit
This place is for shitposting, anyway. You'd have to be pretty autistic to bother with any of this.
>>564784
What a stupid idea. Where does it say that /g/ is for linux autists? In fact removing linux from /g/ will have the most net benefit as linux autists never post anything of value and just make a shitton of garbage like desktop generals
>>564784
I hope you realize that gaming is the reason why companies are investing in tech R&D for PCs. Without us, you'd still be running everything off of the CPU. You think the number of CUDA programmers rae high enough for Nvidia to justify spending millions on new video card designs? We're the reason why video cards and physics cards exist. We're the reason why SLI exist. What the fuck do tech nerds do besides jerk off to FOTM programming languages (yet never going any farther than Hello World!)? You think VR would be getting the attention it's getting now without us? You're a fucking joke.
>>564793
Mobile hardware is driving consumer electronics innovation these days, not the desktop. Besides, Apple had a fully GPU-accelerated GUI in a mainstream product at least a half-decade before Windows finally caught up.
VR is another stupid gamer hype fad like the Kinect and 3D TVs.
Wikcucks don't care about technology in general.
All they care about is the product, not the method. Product is >>>/v/ and the method is >>>/g/.
Products are GPU shitstorms, speccy threads, guts threads, casing threads etc.
A typical winbabby's perception of judging a GPU is "Gaming benchmarks".
None of the gamer wincuckolds are interested in the method or process of making games. Game is not technology, programming games is.
Buying GPU is not technology and neither is discussing which build will play the latest manchild games.
Wincuckolds do not care about privacy and cryptology. They are more invested in games.
If all they care about is the ability to play games they should move to >>>/v/
MODS HELP
/g/ IS NOT A CUSTOMER SUPPORT SITE
/g/ IS NOT A CONSUMER REVIEW SITE
>This is /g/
This is a serious issue.
This is a serious issue #2
This is a serious issue #3
This is a serious issue #4
This is a serious issue #5
This is a serious issue #6
This is a serious issue #7
This is a serious issue #6
>>>/g/55146766
This is a serious issue #8
Refer to >>>/global/rule/11
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>>564845
this is not redddit
go back to redddit if you want to spam communist ideologies
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>>564851
this is not freetard hugbox board
>>564852
You continuously fail to come up with a valid argument.
Facts:
>/g/ is NOT a consumer review site
>Advertising is NOT allowed in 4chan
>/g/ is NOT a tech support board.
Now fuck off you pathetic basement dweller. Your weebshit cartoon waifu is calling you
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>>564853
stop making shitty meta threads
>>564784
I am sad we've come to this, but it has to happen.
>>564784
Well you're not wrong about them inevitably turning everything into "muh games"
>>564793
This has to be a pasta or something, the level of delusion is incredible.
>I hope you realize that gaming is the reason why companies are investing in tech R&D for PCs.
Gaming is a very tiny portion of the PC ecosystem, and there are more uses for high-performance hardware than playing shitty AAA titles. The only cutting-edge shit gamers fund is consumer GPUs, which even then are driven by the far more profitable workstation and HPC markets, especially now.
>Without us, you'd still be running everything off of the CPU.
Not really, graphics accelerators first started really appearing on PCs for Windows and CAD, and speaking of CAD, workstation users were enjoying dedicated CPU-independent graphics solutions while PCs were still spreadsheet boxes.
>You think the number of CUDA programmers rae high enough for Nvidia to justify spending millions on new video card designs?
And you think a few cheap-ass shitters buying 960s are going to run up against massive corporate workstation fleets, supercomputers and render farms running on high-end, high-margin Quadros and Teslas?
>We're the reason why video cards and physics cards exist.
Because games are apparently the only thing that benefit from 3D visualization and physics simulation.
>You think VR would be getting the attention it's getting now without us?
You retards really think you are responsible for this current iteration of VR finally becoming somewhat marketable? You're basically jerking off to SGI leftovers that nobody ever paid attention to before because they knew it was shit.
>>564784
this post is the best post ever i approved get the fuck out from >>>/g/
OP, while I agree with that Windows kids are killing /g/ (since they usually have no idea about tech in general and all they do is circlejerking about specs, internet speed and linux trolling), you can't do anything about it. Face it, current year, 4chan is normalfag land and we're just guests passing by.
The only thing I'd ask the jannies for is enforcing the sticky and purging all "help me choose a good laptop for gaming" threads. Maybe then /g/ is usable again without filters.
On the other hand, /g/ has no mods, which makes this thread redundant.
You can post 10 rate my dick threads and they will stay there for hours until they 404.
>>564844
>announcing a report
nice
>>564784
I am Bill Clinton and I approve of this motion.
>>564853
I wonder why hiroshimoot doesn't ask microsoft money for all this advertisement. Or even apple or nvidia.
We are missing the bigger picture.
/g/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site.
If we allow this >>564827 to happen, /g/ is literally dead.
Shitty graphics card threads are literally the worse.
Scenario 1:
>AMD/Nvidia fanboy posts a "game benchmark"
>The oppsite site rush in and literally starts shitposting about the graphics card
>Whole thread becomes which GPU is best for gaming
Scenario 2:
>A /v/ spill needs a new PC to play the latest games
>"Help me with my build, tech support /g/"
>One dude posts AMD/Nvidia
>Thread derailed instantly like the scenario mentioned above
GPU threads belong to >>>/v/
>browse /g/
>~6 windows 10 just works threads
>~3 >linux, not even once threads
>~6 >he fell for the %s meme bait
>and above all this, the face of RMS in the sticky
>crying
>>564866
Not him but didn't they remove that rule?
>>564790
Those like you need to fuck off.
MODS
>partpicker thread
>>>/wsr/
>AMD vs Nvidia in terms of "XYZ games benchmarks"
Absolutely >>>/v/
>/ptg/
>>>/t/
>Chinese shopping general
>Shopping
Absolutely anywhere outside >>>/g/
>Which graphics card should I buy next, /g/?
>>>/wsr/
>>>/v/
I suggest you guys make a seperate board "consumer electronics" and have a pure technology board.
>>564881
>>I suggest you guys make a seperate board "consumer electronics" and have a pure technology board.
THIS THIS THIS
THIS
THIS
One thing tho, if telemarketers exists (and at this point is undeniable >>564833
), they probably object this petition to oblivion.
Expect to deal with a lot of shit OP.
>>564885
I don't think they exists.
Windows 10 threads are either
- babbies telling themselves that they have nothing to hide
or
- trolls baiting mad oldfags
>>564892
While this is mostly true it affects the quality of the board. This is not /b/
>>564784
Posting to show my support. /g/ used to be reasonably good for a 4chan board and not merely full of shitposters and consumerists. I'd love to see it that way again, especially with /tech/ being killed.
My contribution
>>564909
You are allowing shitposters to take over
Every one on /g/ thinks that enjoying anything that isnt programming, makes you a manchild.
Until this 60 year old granpa mentality is addressed, nothing will happen either way.
Every one on /g/ thinks that enjoying anything that isn't gaming, makes you a 60 year old grandpa.
>Until this manchild mentality is addressed, nothing will happen either way.
>>564920
Yes, lets stay in stagnant pool of bengay and double mint gum. Surely things will evolve with this limited mentality.
I hope not being late to tell you OP that board suggestions are attended at the 4chan's feedback page https://www.4chan.org/feedback
Fuck off
What the fuck
>>>/g/55148696
>>>/g/55148892
>>564942
How is this not banned?
>>564965
I have a better question: Who is allowing this?
>>564784
/g/ is shit though.
>>564909
Your contribution should be reporting any thread you deem unnecessary. It's cancer, hiding from cancer doesn't stop it at all.
>>565025
This guy knows it.
There's nothing wrong with some effective filter use, but acting like it's the chemo is fucking delusional, covering malignant cancer up does nothing to stop it from spreading to parts that you'd rather it not spread to, which it will.
>>564926
>reposting the same five tired threads over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and shitting all over everything else with regurgitated memes and zero-effort shitposts is "fun"
Not that one should expect much from the average feeble-minded /v/edditor who actually thinks that shit is funny, but still, you're a real piece of shit.
>>564940
Pretty sure that's the OP. I think they were shitposting with Maki loves Windows earlier today. Kinda sad, since they also seem to have a hateboner for her too. To be honest with you, I think OP underestimates the intelligence of /g/ posters.
Software has always been /g/-related. That said, spamming threads is fairly rude and gets you a ban no matter what board you're on.
>>564926
If you think shitposting us fun you should move to /b/ and have all the fun you need
Splitting /g/ in two boards is the best solution for everyone. Maybe then we can have interesting topics again, not the same old "hahaha look, stallman is eating shit from his foot", "fuck off winbabby, enjoy your botnet" crap.
>>565047
I saw that thread, the forced makishit is even worse than the gaymer blogs, probably because it's the same /vg/ migrants making them.
>>565051
Splitting /g/ sounds like a shit idea, one will just become a hugbox for gaymers and another will become a hugbox for CS undergrads and GNU ideologues, and people who aren't braindead fanchildren will have nowhere to go.
>>565064
/vg/ hates Maki.
But hold on, I'm not done venting my opinion, mods fix this fucking shit
>various AMD vs. NVidia threads
>not spam
>valid opinion in a post
>spam
>hosting on cuck minis
>ever
>>565093
For filter issues you should use the feedback box, the dev sometimes responds to those.
>>>/g/ is basically just a very big pile of idiots coming from the NT system having no clue at all what a UNIX environment is like.
I am using UNIX systems since being a child, I was being teached how to computer. I do not need faggots spouting
>AMD is burning GPU hahaha why do I need to eat rice now
>Look at me! My gaming rig updated and I didn't invoke that L-M-A-O suicide watch thread
There are tons of idiots shouting at each other what CPU is better, what GPU is better, all being pros and real programmers that are 'too smart' for generally approved C books, but there is not a single Overclocking thread. There is no thread about mining, there are no threads about silencing the noise of a computing machine.
Instead we get
>I mixed up this shit on my stove, is this is a good combo of components for this price?
or
>He doesn't use a BenQ or ASUS IPS panel monitor with retardsync
threads.
It's completely unnecessary.
I am willing to improve anons lives, because I still refuse to register on a fucking website for doing borderline shit (reddit). Google or not, no account means no account.
But when my threads (which tend to attract interested folks, at least that's how I felt) get pushed to page 10 because some faggot needed
an
>NVidia vs AMD thread
because the
>AMD vs Novidya
thread wasn't good enough for him, I am fucking done.
The real good shit, like waifu.club comes from 4chan, not plebbit.
And it's a fucking shame that the inspired people always have to steer through mountains of brainshit by idiots too stupid to think for themselves.
Just imagine how many good people with smart ideas already got scared away from /g/ because page 0 looked like there's only AMD VS INTEL FINAL BATTLE and reeesync vs niggersync and ZEN is FINNISH.
Look what we've missed, just because of shit like this.
>>565109
>a very big pile of idiots coming from the NT system having no clue at all what a UNIX environment is like.
>I am using UNIX systems since being a child,
Do you daily drive *BSD, Solaris, OpenIndiana, AIX, HP-UX, IRIX, Tru64, SCO OpenServer or similar Unix derivatives?
If not, do you at least use a traditional Unix shell like csh or ksh?
>>565125
Should I? What could I see then? Would 4chan be cleansed of the Windows 10 posters then?
I do not want to run down any more rabbit holes, I'm too tired of stupid people.
I just want money now.
>>565126
I don't know, I just wish that people would stop calling GNU/Linux a "UNIX environment" when they're trying to sound smug.
>>564784
>>55147615 (OP)
There should be a programming board. /g/'s main problem is the two speed issue. one segment posts slowly (programming) but gaming/consumer related threads move fast because of shitposters and flaming. That's why there's an entire retro gaming board yeah? There's lots of interest but people post slowly so it needs it own board, otherwise the threads die too quickly if they're in /v/. Idk it just makes sense to me to have a slow programming board.... keep /g/ the way it is let the consumer/power user stuff stay but there should be a place for hobby devs and others who want to have a differently paced discussion. Who else is interested in this?
>>565127
I'm not trying to sound smug. I'm just saying how I feel.
And I'm even paranoid about that now. Because who knows who's watching in?
I can't decide what would be a better solution: split off “g generals” into a separate board, or split “consumer tech” off into a separate board.
>>565130
Good point actually.
But stallman is /g/od, which means he's /g/ personified and stallman + consumer tech doesn't really mix well, does it? Allow that man some peace of mind and don't force him into the debian way of Linux (you know, suicide, because everybodys too stupid to listen or believe).
Just swing the banhammer strongly the first few months when /con/ is new.
New idea (which might be shit, but it came to my mind so I write it out now): split /g/ into /pro/, which would be for producing, professional users, trying to accomplish stuff and /con/ which would be for consumerist, contrast and congress (ever noticed how omnipresent these presidential candidates are on this board? well it's 4chan wide cancer, but still) related stuff. At least do it in your mind once.
Also bear in mind that all the controversial threads could still exist, they do not have to vanish or be gone. They'd just be somewhere else. Like /mlp/, after a few months: /b/ was clean from it again.
I feel like we are in a comparable situation again, just on another board with different controversial topics.
>>565129
That's cool. I still feel similarly to the rest. It's a lot of mindless retards who can't even use google to a basic level. I mean, I get it sometimes, you want to make sure your decision is right before you pull the trigger, but honestly, the board has turned into such a hypocritical, hyper-rational shithole over the years it seems, though it was probably always shit, who knows.
>>565130
If the mods are lazy, consumer tech is probably a better choice. /g/ has a lot of generals, but not really enough to justify a full board, and there really are some generals on /g/ that probably belong there as a catch-all for common topics and questions that don't really deserve an entire thread.
>>565133
I would hardly call RMS the personification of /g/, nor would I ever want to, FSF ideologue shitposters should really just be culled with the gaymers, they dump just as much shit into the metaphorical lake of piss.
>>565136
I guess I personally think *all* generals should be split off into their separate boards.
In fact, you might as well just split off 4chan into “4chan signal” and “4chan generals”. The latter really have no point other than repetitive discussions and reposting the same thing over and over again. (Go on, show me a general that doesn't conform to this)
4chan was never meant to have this level of generals. Go to a fucking forum or subleddit for that. Might as well ban them site-wide, it would be a genuine improvement.
>>565140
I'm not at all disagreeing that generals are repetitive and cancerous, but that's why some of them can be useful as catch-alls to keep the repetitive, stupid shit off the catalog.
Though on the other hand, retards getting shitposted off the board for asking retarded page 1 of google-tier shit would probably be better in the long term.
/v/ comes to /g/ because there is no rule about console-wars on /g/.
Bumping for a solution.
Put in place codecha for a week or two. It will filter the shitposters and they'll probably get bored and find another place to shitpost.
>>564784
/g/ is not your cancerous little hubgox for generals.
Windows and video games are technology, in fact the one thing pushing computer technology more than anything else in the world.
Deal with if you pathetic fagggot.
>>564861
>Gaming is a very tiny portion of the PC ecosystem
It is the single largest revenue stream, moron.
Without modern gaming, computer technology wouldn't be remotely as profitable and advanced. It's a fucking fact, deal with it.
>>564883
"pure" technology dosn't fucking exist, you brain-dead fuck. It is commercial in nature. Welcome to the post-industrial world.
>>565268
I think it's more complicated than that.
GPU threads should be allowed in /g/ but it result in shitposting with nvidia and amd fanboyz trolling everyone and making enable to discuss about the results of those benchmarks etc.
>>565271
>enable
>unable
same shit.
/g/ is forfeit.
Best to focus your efforts on boards that can still be saved.
>>565265
This legitimately seems like a real solution that could make a huge difference.
im going to admit, i didnt read this thread all the way through, but i feel like /g/ is home to a number of gaming and consumer discussions. some one said /v/ is for the product, and /g/ is for the method, that makes sense to me... but what if we just banned duplicate threads? also, im a linux autist, i just switched from arch to manjaro (shit was infuriating) and yes i have a riced out desktop, i also play vidya, and i dont post about vidya, and yes i have a decked out /guts/ worthy tower, but ive never posted in guts or in desktop... some of us like g in its entirety... but people blatently spamming isnt cool. also ban graphics card discussion involving vidya, its just host to so much fucking fuckery
I vote for anything thay dumps more garbage on /v/. Start dumping other board's garbage there too.
In fact, just rename /v/ to /trash/ and merge all the other garbage boards with it as one large unified dumping ground. It perfectly encompasses the average post quality of /v/.
>>564784
Agreed. Make /g/ Great Again!
>>564784
ma/g/a
Make /g/ great again
ma/g/a
>>564784
PLEASE ENFORCE THIS HIROJUKI!
>>55147615
Nice job there OP by coming up with a good idea but throwing your own shitty agenda into it to practically make the situation worse. You are taking sides here to the "opposite" camp as a solution to problem but in the end it will just help to push more of this crap and black and white -mindset to the board. Heck this thread is probably a goldmine already(haven't read through it). This kind of thinking is akin to unironically blaming reddit or summer for whatever you see wrong with the board at a given time.
>They have nothing to do with programming, networking, security, privacy, freedom...
Yet they all have every bit to do with technology. This isn't "freedom programming" -board as much as you probably would like it to be one. I am against threads about games on /g/(they don't even happen here) and shitty tech support threads(which aren't allowed in the first place) but banning discussion about computer hardware or an OS you don't like from a technology board just because it could be by some logic related to games is ridiculous and will not happen. Unless of course we get something like a programming board or a board about (computer)hardware which separates them. Right now /g/ is for all of this.
>/g/ is NOT a tech support board.
>/g/ is NOT a consumer review site.
Indeed it isn't and none of the stuff you just listed there collide with this.
You see a thread which is against the rules? You report and don't reply. You see a thread which doesn't interest you? You move on/hide and don't reply. You want to make this easier? Filter them. Sage when you want to reply but not emphasize it by bumping the thread.
The real problem I see is the rampant shitposting, anons who constantly take the bait and reply. Other than community effort to actually stop feeding it, it will never stop. I'd be fine if mods would swing banhammer much more freely in these cases. The gaming boogeyman is a poor excuse.
>>565489
Meant for OP >>564784 of course. Had it as a reply to the last one of these threads but it got deleted right when I was about to post.
>>565489
Windows is a retard magnet, full stop.
9 out of 10 threads on /g/ about Windows or its hardware ecosystem are linked to gaming and how to make your vidya go faster.
Windows is the cancer and it must be removed from /g/.
>>565508
as a linux/windows user i have to disagree that windows threads are cancer, the real cancer is spam. The fact of the matter is duplicate threads are shit.
>>565508
>Windows is a retard magnet, full stop.
Ok? That's not a reason to remove threads about Windows on a technology board.
The tools against retards of any kind would be heavier moderation and not replying if the thread is against the rules. Same old and it really does work. You can't remove the shitposters or the idiots making tech support threads here by creating a rule but you can stop them from breeding.
>9 out of 10 threads on /g/ about Windows or its hardware ecosystem are linked to gaming and how to make your vidya go faster.
That is /g/ related. And even if it wasn't should we just (try to) ban everything Windows related on the entire board? Do you honestly believe that would ever work?
>>565489
>The real problem I see is the rampant shitposting, anons who constantly take the bait and reply.
This guy gets it.
Nothing brings tears to my eyes and rage to my heart faster than seeing a technology thread go straight to page 11 with maybe 2 or 3 replies while such fucking obvious troll threads like "NVIDIA ON SUICIDE WATCH" or "How can Linux compete? Upgrade to Windows(R) 10(TM) today!" hit autosage within the hour.
>>565508
Then fucking report and ignore the retards who make gayming and shill threads, instead of petitioning for an entire platform to be banned from the board simply because the licensing disagrees with your dumbshit moral crusade.
Besides, it's not like the other side of the fence is any better, I mean, I just can't wait for your Windows-free, magically intelligent "technology" utopia with such fascinatingly productive topics as
>mindless anime/TV/youtube consumption and related paraphernalia
>font rendering
>ricing
>"OS X is gay"
>"BSD is shit"
>"WHY aren't you using TempleOS, /g/ minus NSA/Windows?"
>editor wars
>distro wars
>license wars
>language wars
>[insert software topic here] wars
>pretend sysadmin blogs
>babby virtualization blogs
>generals, generals, generals
The real problem with /g/ is exactly what >>565524 stated, it's the shitty spam and the retards who reply to it. Considering the amount of Wintard bait threads that get constant autosage-inducing bites, removing Wintards isn't going to fix that one fucking bit.
>>565525
>That is /g/ related.
WRONG.
Video game products and related discussions go in /v/ or /vg. They have NO place in /g/.
>>565536
What the fuck defines a "video game product"?
Crassly branded gamer shit should pretty much just fuck off, but you can use consumer GPUs for something other than games.
>>565536
i dont play vidya, but i do have multiple monitors on my windows 10 machine, i use it for music creation. If i wanted to talk about what graphics cards are best for multimonitor rendering in HD, where would i do that? The problem is spam, not any specific type of thing. Threads like this are just buttblasted autists upset that people like things different from their own interests.
and yes, i have a riced out GNU/Linux laptop.
a-anyone else think gaming is gay? lmaooo fuck those faggots. this is the real pc master race!
>installs le ubuntu
>uses package managers
>>565549
what you compile everything from source? if you're not using gentoo or *BSD that's a huge waste of time.
>>564790
GTFO
>>564784
op is right
please mods, /g/ is love, /g/ is life
>>565267
because the margins on gaming (want, no need, products gather to your weaknesses) are so high
no high margins on hpc because no religion; bring me the most cycles/flops/throughput for money else other vendor when 1 sale is at least 6 figures and money comes from support contracts
>>565489
>>565508
abother opinion:
windows attracts low quality users, people without the want or possibility to explore inner workings of their platform.
i work webdev, whenever i hit stack overflow windows power shitheads cant CLI, they cant into rational troubleshooting, they lack knowledge and substitute with specs. the need the clicky clicky, although powershell has nice features.
obviously i wont use powershell, EUNIX style is best. i worked as win admin, i knew my way around.
now its mac at work with linux cloud and bsd at home. i liked the pro/con idea, because people creating and people consuming have very different interests, you could split it all up, very neatly
Bring back ricing threads!!!
>>565267
>>565589
A single large supercomputer installation or workstation fleet can use thousands of Xeons, Quadros and Teslas which are all very high-margin and very profitable products. A Quadro M6000 costs over four times as much as its GeForce equivalent, although the only real hardware difference is error-correcting memory. Likewise, it costs Intel very little additionally to tack some extra cores onto a consumer design, enable some features and retail it as a several thousand dollar Xeon.
Businesses themselves are generally much more frequent upgraders than gamers, and also tend more towards the high-end, the number of gamers buying 980 Tis and 6700Ks are a minority, and most of them tend towards consoles, mid-range offerings or similarly low-margin, low-cost hardware.
>Without modern gaming, computer technology wouldn't be remotely as profitable and advanced. It's a fucking fact, deal with it.
Gaming does one thing, and that is bringing high-end technology into a cheaper, more accessible package, for which it deserves a lot of credit. But to claim that your shit is "advanced" and "bleeding edge", or even a significant part of the overall market dominated by massive multi-million dollar corporate contracts is fucking delusional.
>>564793
>programming exists for video games
>algorithms exist for video games
>parallel processing exists for video games
>SIMD exists for video games
>computer input systems exist for video games
This is how retarded you are. No doubt, the development of video games certainly contribute to the development of computers and technology, but there are far more reasons to develop the technologies that video games rely on, and usually they're also more significant.
>>565267
Hahahahaha, then why the fuck is nvidia desperately trying to diversify so that they don't depend on the gaming market?
Because it's not particularly profitable. Just look up profit margins on graphics cards in the consumer market. CPUs, HPC and gpGPU is where it's at, which is exactly what Nvidia is trying to get into.
>>565533
>>565525
>>565489
>>565491
Just take the good part about the suggestion from the OP: Create /cg/ - Consumer Electronics
/g/ would be left for general non-consumer technology, STEM stuff etc. /v/ has had several splits into /vg/, /vr/ and /vp/ to solve problematic elements on the board, so why can't /g/ get a split into /cg/? I mean, come on, it's almost impossible to have any reasonable discussion about electronics, programming, reverse engineering or any sort of engineering really. Why? Because with programming you're confined to the low-traffic /dpt/ which a lot of the skilled people on /g/ find inane, and for the other subjects your thread will go off the frontpage in 5 seconds because of all the other dumb threads about consumer electronics.
>>565719
>claim that gaming market is very small when compared to PC market
>get btfo and told it's the largest driver of revenue for desktops
>"w-well it's not v-very profitable"
nice goalpost moving faggot, not even the other guy
you understand that revenue and profit are two different things right?
>>565770
First off, I am not the same person as the one who made the point initially, I just happen to agree. Anyway, off to dealing with your post.
What the fuck are you smoking? Obviously it's the largest revenue for home desktop computers because it's a highly popular activity on home desktop computers. Those that DON'T play video games are quite niche and will usually buy lower end hardware. You might as well be saying that video games are the largest source of revenue for consoles. It's obviously a fact, but it wouldn't be reason to think that's why AMD developed APUs.
If you look in a different market, namely workstations, you'll find a completely different result where video games account for absolutely nothing. If you look in an even more different market, which is where the REAL profit of graphics processing comes in, you'll find mass parallel computation on Tesla cards etc. which is where the REAL profit comes from. By that I mean, most of Nvidia's and AMD's profit comes from these markets, and it's what is truly driving the continued development of GPUs. The fact that this parallel computation just happens to work really well for graphics processing is why it's been adopted in the consumer GPU market as well.
The point is, the revenue comes mostly from gpGPU and not the consumer graphics market. It's actually a tiny portion of both AMD's and Nvidia's profit when it comes to their graphics divisions. The development of graphics cards came from SIMD and the need for mass parallel processing, it didn't come to be the other way around (from video games). In fact, video games were CPU rendered for a long time before dedicated graphics processors became a thing at all (while SIMD has existed for about 4 decades now). It just happens to be so that graphics processing is a very similar workload to everything else SIMD is used for.
reminder that recommend me a telephone GENERAL is on topic, but UI design and customization belongs on the wallpapers board
Threads like these are the reason I only go to /g/ to laugh at you retards.
>>564784
the same applies to phone users
>ifags vs android
>qualcomm vs nvidia
>various types of phone/homescreen threads ("Which phone should I buy, /g/?" "Is this phone good, /g/?" "Check out my specs, /g/.")
* Phone discussion and support
>>566129
these threads arent allowed on /g/ in the first place m8
>>566129
phoneposters are a whole next level of pleb, yes, though the same solution to cull retarded gaymers will also carry over to them as well
Bumping a thread with discussion due to the flooding happening right now. fg
death to furfags
You and all the other freetards should kill yourselves tb h
>>564790
Fuck off reddit
>>564845
Go back to Shit Reddit Says
>>566888
trips confirm
In all seriousness though: I found some interesting topics since I posted ITT
However I still am voting for a split up.
>>565128
I second this.
Guys, it's so simple
Just split /g/ into Windows and non-Windows
Take away the windows and the /v/, phonethreads, generals, and other general retardation goes along with it. Trust me
>>567052
Sure thing man. Then let's split up the board into different boards for each general. What could possibly go wrong?
/g/ should just be split into two boards with absolutely no guidance as to which board should be for what thing and the community should be allowed to fragment along its own favored lines
>>565600
/g+/ for technology creation
/g-/ for technology consumer
I like it
>>567052
>all windows discussion goes to >>>/win/
>then they come right back to /g/ to meme about GPUs, thinkpads, phones, chromebooks and other trash that has nothing to do with windows explicitly
Why do freetards get so assmad?
Really, the worst threads on /g/ are freetard threads like desktop ship.
>>567666
shit*
>>567666
It's not just freetards that are assmad as the shitty state of /g/, it's just that they're the loudest and keep co-opting it so they can have their own little square of 8ch /tech/
>>567585
i could live with /gt/ Gaming tech, and keep the phonetards and guts and all that stuff.
>watch general
needs to go to /fa/
>>568880
But /fa/ watch threads are about looks, and /g/ watch threads are about the technology and engineering.
We should split /g/ into a software board and a hardware board.
>>568880
I don't understand why the fuck people are so obsessed with the damn watch general, what makes it not technology? Because it's technology that emphasizes looks as much as mechanics?
>>564790
Holy fuck what happened to this board.
>>564790
FUCK OFF
WHERE ARE THE MODS?
>>564784
Yes please. /v/ sounds like a good option. /g/ is progressively getting worse each year.
>>564784
I agree that gamers are cancer but freetards and software hipsters are equal cancer
>>564790
He's right you know
>>569245
He a registered fuck, you know.
Fuck off, redditusers, you suck and your website sucks.
>>565533
>Then fucking report and ignore
I wish that actually DID something, but it doesn't.
/g/ is seriously one of the worst boards on this website, even /v/ is better by comparison.
>>564784
/g/ is already a fucking shit hole where no one actually talks about technology and are happy posting PRO IN TEH LOO memes all day
>>569530
It does work at times, mods and janitors do pay attention to /g/ when their attention is directed towards it. Makishit threads, for example, are deleted at record speeds lately.
But yes, you're not really likely at all to have your calls answered in response to a thread with more than about five replies, or individual comments within non rule-breaking threads.
But maybe if the volume of reports were stepped up ,they would have to act, taking that kind of attitude is the reason it doesn't do anything, of course.
>/g/ is seriously one of the worst boards on this website, even /v/ is better by comparison.
I'm with you. At least /v/ seems to have a lot of (shitty) discussion related to its topic, /g/ doesn't even have that.
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