Trump fucked up. I can't believe he picked (((Pence))). This is a disaster, no matter how you spin it.
He lost ahahahaha.
trump cucks in FULL damage control mode
>>81284210
Holy shit this fucking argentine faggot fall off a cliff already you cancerous loser in every god damn thread posting you tried bullshit
>>81284026
Here we'll discuss strategy, and shills will show themselves being totally offtopic with defeat talk.
>>81284282
No, he's fucking right. Delusional christfags ruin the GOP ticket once again.
Trump's strategy should be saying, it was just a prank and choosing Flynn.
VPs have almost no control, just look at Biden. This will blow over soon.
I knew the shills were gonna come here too to spread their shit all over the wall.
As for the topic at hand, Trump's strategy is to shore up as much Evangelical/Conservative support as he can, make the RNC a spectacle, but gets points across.
>>81284026
Trump could get the black vote, look at the swag, the confidence.
I've been sure of his victory for at least a month. Clinton is incompetent garbage with none of Bills charisma. Trump was right, without the entire establishment behind her it wouldn't be fair
>>81284026
Best way to help his campaign:
>record (((Pence))) saying something ridiculously controversial so trump will drop him
>plant drugs in (((pence's))) house and call the cops on him so trump will drop him
>record (((pence))) having sex with a man and leak it so trump will drop him
>record (((pence))) saying something negative about trump so trump will drop him
Basically, rid yourself of pence and Trump will do great.
is trump....dare I say...finished?
>>81284301
>defeat talk
No we are pissed that Trump chose a VP who opposed him on major issues on his campaign.
>>81284439
Fuck off tripfag. Nobody liked pence before trump chose him, but somehow the people sticking to that original opinion are the shills?
>>81284439
I figured they would also but it's slower, splits their effort, exposes them, and ultimately who cares we just don't feed them.
>shore up as much Evangelical/Conservative support as he can
Well using the "evangelical" term won't help, I can't see how that would appeal to bible believers. In fact as one, I'm voting for Trump despite his cringy pander. I don't honestly think he's read the bible.
>>81284617
I agree I wanted Rand or Webb, or Flynn. But we must work with what we're given, and trust Trump has his reasons.
>>81284617
Found a shill. /s
Seriously, can we get some actual discussion going instead of defeat talk? Trump has had a lot of controversies and moments that people try to spin into making everyone think he is done for, but he always recovers.
I thought the plan was to pretend to pick pence to fuck the media then pick fly flynn, wtf happened to all the 4d chess memes wtf, someone turn this into 5d chess before i lose hope
>>81284617
>>81284640
What are you going to do about it? Bitch about it all weekend without offering any solutions whatsoever?
That's why you're shills because you're too defensive and bitch and complain and never do a damn thing about your problems.
>>81284881
Yeah, I guess I'll just bend over and take the globalist cock like you and the rest of the redditors who reside in trump general threads.
>>81284421
wtf i hate trump now
The terrorism by #BLM #Deray4Treason and others causes fear. That fear needs somewhere to go, and Trump can provide that. Rather than a negative, Trump can offer a positive which is hope. And hope in the form of a massive national infrastructure redevelopment plan among other investments in our country.
>>81284997
Exactly. Bitch and moan and never actually do anything but shit up threads with drama.
>>81285038
>>81284764
>defeat talk
If you want a fucking echo chamber, head to Tumblr.
This is a very shit move from what I can see. Trump's major support came from people who were absolutely fed up with the establishment and what does he do to thank them for his support? He goes out and picks Establishment Suit #11261346 to run with him.
I fear that a lot of the people who would've voted for Trump will stay home on election day now. We won't know until the time comes, though, so there's still hope.
>>81285038
that's right. hillarly don't need help like trump does. not picking a VP would be the best thing should could do to help her campaign. it would show how she can handle this on her own without the need of anyone's help. talk about a role model
>>81285250
Do not focus on decisions already made that you don't agree with such as VP. Focus on how Trump's campaign strategy can be improved to add votes.
>>81284026
he gained support of the rest of the GOP that was against him
my mom (take it with a grain of salt) said she really liked Trump's VP pick and now she's ready to vote for him in the upcoming election
I honestly think it's a good thing because Pence is going to be like a Biden and not do shit
>>81285294
means she will bear the responsibility of her mistakes, not like trump who would seek to shift the blame on others. Hillary, what a great American hero.
>>81285250
This is absolutely fucking false. Everybody who would have voted for Trump will continue to do so regardless of this Pence pick.
It's a calculated move to shore up the GOP and establish a good convention. Do I like the pick? No.
However, I do know that Trump has thought of the consequences. People can believe that he hasn't considered potential assassination scenarios. People can believe the GOP would ever try another Reagan scenario.
Pence is, 100%, a fucking ass licker. He's going to be the biggest lap dog cuck imaginable for Trump to prove his loyalty.
>>81285522
I know for a fact that a small number of votes were lost today, but there's a lot of time left and I think they'll be reclaimed. Again though, that's not the point of this thread the decision was already made.
>>81285338
>Focus on how Trump's campaign strategy can be improved to add votes.
Get a new VP or have him say something that's very strongly anti-establishment in order to distance himself from that group.
Trump's strongest support was literally coming from people who have been completely disenfranchised by being fucked both by the Democrats and the Republicans. They're not going to crawl out of their houses to vote for more of those people.
Trump should steal Ron Pauls platform and rack in Libertarian and Indepedents.
When do Candidates announce their cabinet? Before or after presidency?
Pence was a decent choice. He provides everything Trump was looking for in a running mate, and he's easily bullied.
What did you want to discuss?
>>81285683
>Trump's strongest support was literally coming from people who have been completely disenfranchised by being fucked both by the Democrats and the Republicans
I UNDERSTAND THIS YOU FUCKING NIGGER IM THAT PERSON MYSELF. WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, NOW WHAT WILL YOU FUCKING DO? PRODUCE OR STFU.
>>81285522
>This is absolutely fucking false. Everybody who would have voted for Trump will continue to do so regardless of this Pence pick.
If you like living in denial, maybe you'd like to join the BLM movement.
>>81285686
Yes he must balance the right/establishment VP pick with libertarian platform and policy to appeal to indies.
>>81285709
I'd like to discuss a new category of memes, which illustrate the awesome US we can have with Trump. Hope is appealing, modern tech can build us a utopia.
>>81285848
Go on...
>>81285760
Yes Estonia. Please, educate me on voters in the United States. People who are pouting and acting like children over this pick will SURELY vote for Clinton or Johnson!
Especially after it's clearly fucking obvious, yet again, that open borders are the biggest threat to western civilization. Pence is a faggot, we all know that. He's going to sit around like a useless cuck and do nothing but prop up Trump.
There's a reason he was picked over Gingrich. Newt is an opportunistic backstabber and always has been. The man can never be turned loyal.
>>81285601
Yeah, they'll come back home once they settle down and realize nothing has changed.
>>81285945
>Newt is an opportunistic backstabber
Newt's public image is just too terrible, that's mostly it. Guy's a total degenerate in many ways, adultery, drug abuse you name it. Glad he's still doing his thing, but VP material he is not.
>>81285945
>People who are pouting and acting like children over this pick will SURELY vote for Clinton or Johnson!
Who's to say that they'll be voting at all?
>>81284210
Is Pence Jewish?
>>81284764
Go back to /r/the_donald if all you can do is shout shill
>>81286151
I worked with a chick from Estonia. She was based AF. Seemed a little prudish. Are all girls from Estonia prudes?
>>81285922
CFG MEME is already working on exposing Hillary, she'll fall under the weight of her own criminal activity. She doesn't need to go to jail for that to happen, perception becomes reality.
My idea is we develop a memes of production for the Trump platform. #MAGA BTEB positive and constructive. So for example, I'd like to see what an iconic city could look like within Trump's trillion dollar infrastructure reinvestment framework. So for example, imagine meme pics of what NYC could look like with 100 billion of next gen infra tech pumped into it? Pics of utopias are always appealing, especially when on edge of collapse. We provide a safe refuge for people to step back from the cliff to.
I was going to vote but what a shitty VP pick. You can tell Trump is just as sleazy as any other politician. I am beyond disgusted.
>>81286277
>Are all girls from Estonia prudes?
Only if they're sober or not attracted to you.
>>81286298
>You can tell Trump is just as sleazy as any other politician
fuck it #ImWithHerNow
>>81286278
Hmmmm I like that, but we need the concept art to go with it. Our draw fangs aren't that good. Maybe pull from Disney's future world or World Fairs or some such? Get some retro art going.
The downside is that it will get called out as BS. No one's going to believe maglev subways in vacuum tubes are possible under Trump.
>>81286599
Why not? He's a builder, he's literally the best person for the job.
>>81286361
She was sober the whole time. We were too busy for fucking around though. I just meant she seemed a little naive when it came to sex.
>>81286670
Because you're talking about revamping cities beyond our current capabilities. There's a reason we're still using phone lines on 100 year old copper.
How can anyone believe that kike-loving evangelicucks make up a bigger chunk of voters than Independents? It's a fucking excuse to dilute the campaign to be more kike friendly if you ask me. Pence is basically Cruz with a less punchable face.
>>81286789
I'm sorry but you self-defeated shitbags are a curse to the US. You're worse than the satanists praising kek for the world to burn and the content lazy baby boomer generation, because you know better, but you're so weak you've given up. You need a reality check.
The defeatist are retarded shills. Trump gets the wall added to the platform, gets never trump absolutely defeated, is winning in multiple polls now, has an opponent that most think is a criminal, and got his VP to endorse his musli, ban in a week and people are worried? Trump can uncuck anyone and this country, so I trust he can do the same to his VP. We're courting fans of a socialist Jew and an evangelical VP is the biggest betrayal?
>>81286822
No one asked you.
>>81286695
>I just meant she seemed a little naive when it came to sex.
Probably because talking about sex in a work environment is a massive taboo.
But I don't know, most girls I know are either "good girls" or massive turbosluts, don't know anyone in between.
>>81286901
>no argument
Fuck off Paul Ryan
>>81286872
>you're worse than the satanists praising kek for the world to burn
come on, don't you want it to burn a LITTLE?
>>81286822
If you're going to say kike learn how to use it effectively. You might as well copy and paste it as your entire post you pathetic cuck shill
>>81285709
there are no direct ties to high ranking officials in the Saudi government atm
however, King Faisal started funding schools which taught radical islamic beliefs (in his view, this would help bring stability to Saudi Arabia) so I'm not sure where exactly you want to split hairs
all in all, YES Saudis (whether directly or indirectly) funded radicals in the ME starting with the Mecca takeover in the 70s
this is a literal fact
>>81287026
No because I know justice will come to those responsible, and for eternity.
Watch https://youtu.be/XXRC4TfmHEs?t=15m if you're too insulated from the danger we're in.
>>81286151
So be it? You do realize that more people will vote because of Pence, right? Hardcore nationalists will still vote for Trump because they'll see through the nonsense.
For fuck's sake, why would you stay home when a literal fucking criminal like Hillary Clinton has a chance at winning? The bitch would sell us out and flood our territories with mudslimes in a heartbeat.
No fucking thank you. Trump is the last best hope against that.
Pence supported the Wolverine (Amtrak line between Chicago and Pontiac). Conveniently, two states (New York and California) have major rail projects underway (Gateway Tunnels, New Empire Station, and CA HSR) that they want federal money for. Trump and Pence should beat Hilary to the punch and _specifically_ say they will fund both projects with $50 billion each (through an oil tariff), even if it means fighting Congress.
It's not a swing issue, but being pro HSR will get some of Trump's biggest critics in NYC and LA to reconsider their view of him. The goal here is to get their minds open, and then sell them there.
>>81284026
It's definitely not a good choice. Fucking cuckservatives and their religious pals ruin everything.
>>81286872
Chill brah. We're having a discussion. My vision of the future wants us off this rock. I'd fully support Gingrich heading up NASA. But, reality tells me Project Orion isn't coming back anytime soon.
I'm saying I don't think Normies would react the way you're hoping to over the top exuberance. Maybe I'm not in sync with what you're proposing. Got a pic so I can visualize it?
>>81284439
>>81284678
Pence is pro-rail though, which is something urban liberals want. Play up that angle.
>>81287054
>If you're going to say kike learn how to use it effectively.
Pence is extremely pro-Israel, and is another cuckservative who thinks Israeli officials should dictated U.S. policy in the middle east.
How the is me using "kike" so out of place in this context you delusional fucktard?
>>81287115
That's interesting thank you for an actual suggestion. On one hand Trump is pro infrastructure and high speed rails along with the the Wall have been mentioned, but on the other having deals like that sounds Clinton like in the making
>>81287216
Trump and Pence will not agree on everything in lockstep. Pence already differs with Trump on the validity of the Iraq War. But Trump chose him anyway.
>>81287180
It's not a bad choice, either. It's the most middle-of-the-road VP Trump could pick, besides Kaisch.
>>81287201
>Because you're talking about revamping cities beyond our current capabilities. There's a reason we're still using phone lines on 100 year old copper.
Why should I bother having a discussion with someone who's already given up? Of course that shit is within our capabilities. No I don't have a pic yet I can barely get through a description of the idea because you faggots feed trolls and are self-defeated.
Can I post my autistic thoughts here?
>>81286976
Her job at the time required sex talk. She wasn't that knowledgable.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT VP THE DECISION IS MADE, WORK WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND STOP FEEDING TROLLS.
>>81287115
Is Amtrak still a failure?
>>81287115
with the amount that people are swayed by reporters and intelligentsia, doing little socialist things like this to get the media on side (or at least to turn a few) might be the only way to win.
unfortunately it's further and further away from small gov., free trade
>>81287369
I haven't given up, I told you I like the idea. We're discussing details.
>>81287440
Go to bed Manafort.
>>81287325
Don't forget that, regardless of what he says, Trump is pro HSR because:
1. if Cuomo gets his new train station, and Amtrak their NEC overhaul, Trump benefits as a Manhattan property owner
2. CAHSR will build a new tunnel between Bakersfield and Burbank. Due to geography, this makes a fork to Vegas possible. Guess what next to Trump International Hotel? Train tracks. It's the ideal spot for a station
netting CA or NY (assuming such a thing is even possible) is easier if he promises funding BEFORE hilary does
>>81287201
I want Newt to push hard for putting the first MAN on the surface of Mars. The moon base is too far out, sending someone to Mars doesn't seems that crazy.
How can I get campaign ideas to the campaign? I'm wasting my time here.
>>81287531
Nah. That's firmly in the American School of Economics or what we called the "National System". It was our economic strategy from 1812~1979. It had five major platforms:
Protect industry
Invest in physical infrastructure
Provide a financial infrastructure
Provide education
Invest in the sciences
Lincoln made it official policy in 1860 but we'd followed it since Clay.
>>81287531
>doing little socialist things like this to get the media on side (or at least to turn a few) might be the only way to win.
It's not specifically socialist when CAHSR and the NEC overhaul will happen anyway. But, Trump has a means to stake it as his own. 13,000,000 people ride the Acela and NEC regional yearly, over 5,000,000 Californians ride local Amtrak services (and a majority voted in favor of CAHSR). These people will be open to suggestion if Trump beats Hilary to the punch.
>>81287741
They monitor /pol/. You can also tweet them. They pick up on it.
>>81288048
I have no way of knowing when they're around and therefore when it's not a waste of my time. I don't have Twitter do they have a tips email address?
>>81287251
Because you just sound like someone trying to fit in by naming the Jew when actually being a pointless defeatist. There wasnt a single non Zionist choice available, and the platform was already hijacked to be way too pro Israel so Pence is not unique in that regard
>>81288139
Not that I know of.
>>81288217
Fucking bullshit. It's 2016. It sickens me to see that this is the best my shithole country can come up with.
>>81288139
>I dont have twitter and I can't be bothered to take 3 minutes to make an account and tweet the man himself or any of his staff
>im wastin muh time here
really man? fuck off back to where you came from
>>81287944
Yep. That's what I mean by American Conservatism and why Trump is a true conservative. Industrial and infrastructure development through American investment and protective trade deals with non interventionist foreign policy and distrust of international banking is historical American conservatism
>>81288388
My idea is more sophisticated than I can fit in a short message. Sorry American you wouldn't understand something requiring an attention span greater than a burger flipper.
Give me the quick 411 on this Pence guy. I thought Trump would choose someone with the word general in front of their name.
>>81288312
Have you considered suck starting a .45? You're getting on my nerves now.
>>81286256
He is one of those (((Evangelicals))), he believes Jews are the chosen people.
>>81287726
It makes sense, I just want to make sure it doesn't look like the corrupt deals the Clintons do to enrich themselves s
>>81288474
wow man you're so sophisticated but you can't figure out how to contact the person you want to send it to.
I'm sure your ideas are really grade A ya fuckin failure
>>81288486
Finnbro, we've been over this. A general is a bad choice for VP.
>>81288494
Yea because a nobrainer should get on your nerves. Be a typical spoiled weak American.
This VP choice was made for 2 reasons:
> Finally get the RNC invested
Trump needs the RNC's organizational support. Unlike conventional candidates who have a background and working relationships with other politicians, Trump doesn't have the ability to create a national campaign on his own. The RNC has agreed to fill out the national ground campaign if Trump agrees to raise money for them. Until now the RNC has been half-assing it.
With Pence as VP, the RNC now has an incentive to see Trump win. Pence is young enough to actually run for President later on, he'll be set up perfectly for 2020 if Trump loses or for 2024 if Trump wins. The RNC will now start fleshing out the battle ground state teams and get the ball rolling.
Hell, if they don't get along with Trump they can always run Pence as a primary challenger in 2020. Just have Pence pick a battle to make it seem like there are big enough ideological differences between the two and then spam the airwaves with "racist" things the sitting President of the United States has said.
> His family refused to support Christie
Arguably Christie is an even better VP choice for the RNC than Pence is (he's more talented, he's a northerner so he has deeper fundraising ability, deep establishment ties). Christie also gets along really well with Trump and Trump believes in him.
However.
Christie has a nasty history with Ivanka's husband's father. Christie prosecuted him and went over the top in slandering the family name. Ivanka refused to work for the campaign if Christie was named VP (same as she did when Manafort gave his ultimatum to leave).
Otherwise, Christie would be the next Vice President.
>>81288574
It actually is a decent idea. He just refuses to discuss it and wants it his way or no way.
>>81288574
I could find it if I invested myself into it. But a campaign being ran so poorly that there isn't an email address isn't worth my effort. You assholes have no idea the punishment you're provoking.
>>81287477
Define "failure", Amtrak provides intercity rail service so private companies don't have to. While most of the services are unreliable and slow, they function. Amtrak long term has been trying to push off as many lines as possible onto states, with mixed success. The NEC is it's own separate thing.
Pence is why the Hoosier State (Chicago-Indianapolis) continues to run. He also helped out with the aforementioned Wolverine, which now runs at about ~100 mph. Other states (in particular, Florida, Illinois and Pennsylvania) have already completed similar 125 mph modernization projects. Right now, the two "big ones" are CAHSR (SF-LA) and the NEC overhaul (which may include a Boston North-South rail tunnel).
Anyway, Pence has the record Californians and New Yorkers want. They like seeing pro-rail Republicans, and a lot of them are leery over Hilary since they're sane people and don't want another political dynasty.
>>81288671
No I've tried to discuss it, but even the people that aren't obvious shills can't help themselves from feeding trolls and offtopic shit.
>>81288389
And we haven't had much in the way of infrastructure investment in ~40 years. Clinton gave us Fiber, but most places still don't have that.
>>81288680
>But a campaign being ran so poorly that there isn't an email address isn't worth my effort. You assholes have no idea the punishment you're provoking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-9vsSi9RkY
I actually like that he holds this position.
Why the fuck should I be forced to bake a cake for a fag if I don't want to?
>>81288651
Source on Ivanka Christie? I believe you I just want to read on it
>>81287944
Yes this has been covered up too much. The "American system" was coined to differentiate from the "British system" of free trade. For some reason free marketeers in America have been spreading this lie.
>>81288651
Christies talents would be better served as AG. He doesn't provide the Congressional liaison Trump needs, and listed as his only requirement.
>>81288765
The need is there, the will for it with Americans is there ("can you hear me now?" on our shitty cell networks, traffic, potholes, lead in the water)
It would also strengthen the USD. I can expand if you query.
>>81288651
quality post
Honest question.
How the fuck does Trump win Pennsylvania with Pence on the ticket?
>>81288753
Nigger, do you even know where the fuck you are?
>>81288871
Wouldn't the British system have been wanting free trade with colonial subjects so that Britain could profit off of underdeveloped nations?
>>81288992
Yes in the US with people that have been too comfortable for too long and don't know what defcon level we're at.
>>81288946
Why is Pennslvania a problem with Pence
>>81288857
Google Charles Kushner. Check the name of the US Attorney who prosecuted him.
>>81288871
Oh yeah. We rejected Smith's laissez fair capitalism from the very start. After 40 years it's become obvious why. But hey, neocons amiright?
>>81288884
Go on. I'm not a train guy obv. How would it help us?
>>81289163
From a specific standpoint or in general?
>>81287944
The National System was not conservative, and it's ideas were not supported by people like Jefferson.
>>81289080
Well I hear Iraq is looking to build the first vertical. You could try there.
>>81288878
Christie was the head of the Republican Governors association. He has deep deep ties to the RNC and fundraising for Republican candidates. Until the bridge scandal he was "the guy" to get to come campaign/fundraiser for you.
He should have ran in 2012. He was going to but couldn't get an organization in time (in his opinion, I think he would have been the Trump before Trump).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lnyxw984Rok
>>81289121
I see. Well out of curiosity I'm going to look into the rest of these kikes just to see what they can do. I hope Ivankas Jew family was worth it
>>81288946
promise to replace all of SEPTA's fucked cars, for starters:
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/SEPTA-Silverliner-V-Removal-120-Regional-Rail-Fleet-385318801.html
he has to beat hilary to the punch though
>>81289245
In general first. Macro to micro.
>>81289299
The US constitution isn't a conservative proposal. It's all about perspective.
>>81289335
>first vertical
What's that mean?
>>81289163
> We rejected Smith's laissez fair capitalism from the very start. After 40 years it's become obvious why.
You mean Hamilton did, and fucked things up from the start.
Jefferson was against the ideas that would become the National system.
The National system caused the civil war (tariffs) and the great depression (central banking and money printing).
>>81289010
As far as I'm aware Britain is the only country in history to have had total tariff free trading, there was no protectionism at all. The colonies may not have had the same freedoms, I don't know about that.
>>81289299
Conservative in the American sense, that type of policy has been with us since our founding and we want back our traditional economic plans that we've had sense the beginning. We are restoring and preserving what made America successful
>>81289349
That's great. How does that help Trump liaise with Congress and provide the institutional knowledge Trump lacks of the inner workings of the government at the Federal level? I'm not saying Christie isn't good, I'm saying he's not the right guy for what Trump was looking for.
>>81289435
First vertical city.
I'm with her!~
>>81289416
What is the value of a nation? It's not only fixed assets like its land and minerals, or soft assets like its people and their ability, it's the productive capacity of the nation. The productive capacity of the US has turned to shit.
What would a banker rather loan money to a business or family for? Seeing dancing girls or retooling with more efficient equipment? Luxurious dinners or a new roof on the family home? If we could unproductively run up trillions in debt for a war, we can certainly run some up to reinvest into our productive capacity. Federal Reserve is instructed by Treasury to issue 1 trillion in next gen infrastructure projects to municipalities around the US. They submit plans, internet votes for best ideas, money is doled out and results studied. Winners are replicated with standard templates, losers build our knowledge and are part of our gov 2.0 innovation.
>>81289440
I'm not a fan of Jefferson, and the economic policies we were laying on the southern states were similar in kind to what Britain did to the colonies. It had less to do with foreign trade and more to do with us fucking our own people for no real good reason.
>>81289623
Yes, I was involved early with high tech vertical food production. All of this stuff, and more, awaits if we only could envision, and do.
>>81289787
Are you talking flying cars or not?
>>81289950
Yes and beyond, we should have colonized space by now with free energy systems but instead we have guys cutting their cocks off. We need to get back on track, small government big vision.
What is the value of a nation? If the streets are dirty and unsafe, would you want to live there? Investment in a nation also attracts tourism revenue, raises quality of life, and reduces health care costs of its people.
>>81284210
THIS
Trump needs to pull a 5d chess move out his ass or The Trump Train is getting derailed
MIKE FUCKING PENCE THE CAREER POLITICIAN GLOBALIST KEKSERVATIVE GAY BASHER?!?
YEAH BRO GREAT FUCKING PICK
>>81290075
Well, you've got a decent idea that won't play out well with the electorate nor is it feasible for a president to run with given our current state of affairs. You've offered nothing in the way of specifics or anything production value and you can't be bothered with distribution nor will you take constructive criticism or even be open to a discussion at all. So what would you like us to do?
>>81290429
I need a contact within the campaign I can feed fully developed ideas to. I'm reluctant to dish that out here because Hillary's squad monitors. I have a vision of the strategy that would completely appeal to the electorate and it would be feasible.
>>81290625
Hit up the local campaign office.
>>81290800
That's a good idea thanks. Do you have any tips for how to contact the right person in the office? ie avoiding Hillary plants, people that will actually pass it up...
>>81289564
Christie knows everyone of importance in Congress.
Pence isn't going to writing bills and coming up with legislative strategy. That's what staff offices are for. If you think Pence is going to be doing anything other than introducing Trump to members of congress and influential lobbyists
> You don't know jack shit about what happens in Washington DC.
Christie would be just as effective as Pence in greasing the right wheels. Probably even more so, simply because Christie has more charisma and more fundraising power.
can't stump the fence of the trumpence
>>81284439
Did the average evangelical or conservative outside of his constituency even know who this fucker was before this announcement? I have serious doubts that they did. This does nothing to bolster his support. A literal who is a drag on the ticket no matter what his positions are. You can be sure Hillary will pick someone who will mop the floor with him in debates, even make a huge stink about the fact that Trump and his own VP pick are anathema to each other. I can't even be sure Trump is actually against the TPP now.
>>81284431
>>81290950
No.
>>81290953
Pence was in Congress. He knows how it works. It's not just introductions. I don't think Christie would have been as effective, and I think he would better serve as AG.
>>81291295
Jeb go to sleep, you're drunk.
>>81292104
Just fuck my country up senpai
Pence was a fucking mistake and it better have been intentional
>>81291601
> I think he would better serve as AG.
Every serves better at a job that's less important. The question wasn't "What job would Christie be best at". The question is "Who would be the best Vice President" and then you work your way down.
> Pence was in Congress. He knows how it works.
Oh Jesus fuck, Anon's who like to pretend they know politics are so fucking annoying. You have a high school understanding of Washington DC. Trump's Vice President isn't going to be explaining anything to Trump. What, you think Joe Biden was been holding Obama by the dick and leading him around for the past 8 years simply because he'd been in Congress longer?
Trump is going to have an ARMY of paid professional bureaucrats who
> never leave town
> never take vacation
> never fundraise
> never campaign
> never give speeches
> never give interviews
You know what those PROFESSIONAL BUREAUCRATS do? They sit in their offices and jack off over parliamentary procedure rules. They get together for 5 dollar buy in poker games and "network" with interns to try and find out what lobbyists are meeting with who. They write 30 page researched and cited papers arguing for public policies THEY DON'T EVEN AGREE WITH just so they can fully grasp both sides of an argument and find the talking points to attack.
So no. I don't think Pence is a better choice because he "knows how it works"... mostly because I doubt he considers himself an expert on Congress. He doesn't need to and he doesn't want to.
If he wanted to be an expert on Congress he wouldn't fucking run for it. He'd work in it.
>>81284421
>>81284282
>>81284210
Seriously Mike Pence was a sellout to the establishment and Trump is fucking done.
Or he's not. Im starting not to give a fuck about that globalist establishment sellout anymore
His children are jewish
I shouldve know
I shouldve fucking listened
>>81292651
What was Obama's criteria for choosing Biden?
>>81293382
God damn, you actually believe that Obama picked Biden because Biden had "more experience" don't you?
You're a marketer's wet dream.
If you want to know the real reason Obama picked Biden
> Biden was very well connected to the important behind-the-scenes people. Obama was a first term senator and had met most people but didn't have the friendly relationship that Biden had
> Biden had the same political brand as Hillary with none of the political drawbacks and he didn't run a racist campaign against Obama.
Just like the Pence selection, it was all about political branding and pandering... not legislative mechanics.
>>81284026
Daily reminder that a strong majority of Trump supporters are literally dumbass trailer trash.
>>81292104
>>81284431
this only counts if
1. Trump is successfully assassinated like JFK
2. Trump is a simpleton with no sack, like George W
the vast majority of VPs are useless and have no personal power, only existing as an arm of the President
>>81284210
>>81293915
and the vast majority of liberals are braindead proto-SJWs from the 60s, actual millenial SJWs with liberal arts degrees, and beaners and niggers
whats your point?
>>81293855
Then we're agreed. Pence was the better choice.
>>81293915
>>81294090
Post sources faggot.
Easy to talk shit with literally nothing to back it up, queer boy.
>>81294110
Christie fulfills all the same branding qualifications while being more talented and better connected. If anything, Pence is a more difficult brand to sell than Christie.
Pence won because of family. That's a fact.
>>81294283
Christie wasn't pro gun enough and most people think he's a crook. He's a liability on the ticket.
>>81288688
Man our trains suck so fucking hard compared to asian and european countries.
>>81284458
Trump is an OG, black people should understand this.
>>81284026
America is fucked for one reason: electoral colleges.
Which ever retarded cunt thought it was smart to let people vote for people who 'have' to vote for what candidate they said they'll vote for, should be shot.
Even if more people vote for Trump, the colleges will vote for Clinton. Trump is like your Brexit, in that the establishment and elite hate him, and the colleges are made up - and can be influenced - by the elite.
>>81295303
>blacks should understand
Rule of the thumb: if you can't understand how to be civilised or human then you can't understand much.
>>81296067
>Rule of the thumb
>>81293915
>WASPS
>Negatively corelated
FUCKING TRAITORS REEEEEEEEEE! HOW COULD MY PEOPLE DO SUCH A DISGUSTING THING!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>81296194
Because most WASPS are educated and understand politics enough to not support a meme candidate.
>>81293915
Daily reminder their vote counts as much as yours.
>>81296290
Trump's shit, but Hillary is diarrhoea.
>>81296290
>$0.20 has been deposited into your paypal account
>>81295912
And Brexit won so trump will also win.
>>81285038
>>81296420
You're right. Just like the blacks and the muslims and all the other people you wish wouldn't vote.
>>81296538
She may be literally the worst candidate of the last 20 years but she is still more qualified than Trump. Pretty sad.
>>81296565
>HE'S POSTING FACTS I DON'T LIKE! HE MUST BE A SHILL!
Lol I love this. NUMBERS ARE OFFENSIVE WHEN I DISAGREE WITH THEM!
Coming from the people who have BOJ black crime statistic pictures saved to their computer.
Trump needs to tap into ideas liberals and libertarians like
>National Railway
>Abolish Federal Reserve, IRS
>Legalization of Marijuana
>>81296574
Not necessarily true.
Pretty retarded thing to say, desu.
>>81296659
>More qualified
In the political field sure. But being President is all about being a politician. If it was about that, then any old politician could walk up and be President.
>>81296194
Old stock Anglo-Saxons usually identify as "American". It's hard to get accurate data on that.
Also, this "education" meme is just stupid. Trump supporters tend to have higher incomes than average. Look at the data. Education does not mean that you're smart. Low IQ social science majors (the majority of college students) are not smart.
Look at the data on income.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-working-class-support/
>>81296716
The amount he would gain from endorsing those ideas would be less than he would lose. His current supporters don't support those ideas.
>>81296850
Dude, he's a real estate agent and a marketing guy. He literally has NO qualifications whatsoever.
The fucking mayor of Detroit is more qualified to be President than Trump.
>>81296926
>Supporters make ~$10,000 more a year than Sanders supporters
Lol, they're barely upper-middle-class.
Also, money doesn't mean you're NOT stupid.
>>81296944
What do you mean by qualifications? All you need to run for president is being born in this country and 35 years or older. Thats all.
>>81296944
He's a businessman and a marketer. He understand the economy, especially the housing markets and economic climate/environment of the US.
And as a marketer he knows how to give off a good perception to the world, which is what the US needs. People hate you cunts, and normally for shit reasons too - Trump can market the US off as some good, friendly place to build up international approval and trust of the US.
>>81297086
That's all you need to be legally allowed to run for President, they're not all you need to be qualified for the position.
You CAN get a license as soon as you turn 16, doesn't mean you know how to drive.
>>81297117
How is a guy who the rest of the world hates (except Israel) supposed to help our image as a country? Are you literally retarded?
>>81297052
> Lol, they're barely upper-middle-class.
Right, they aren't the leeches of society, nor are they the politically connected rich elite.
They are the people who make America.
>>81288022
if you think CA and NY voters can be won by being first to support high speed rail you are a special type of moron. it is the very definition of a low-ranking issue. below climate change. retard-tier analysis.
>>81297169
Being a politician is not a hard science. You don't learn how to do it in the way you learn to drive a car or learn to be an engineer.
You sound like a low IQ social science major who think that they're studying real science.
>>81297169
I guess thats for the voters to decide whether these candidates are qualified
>>81297169
>t. someone who doesn't understand people
Trump has 4 years in office. People forget shit a lot. You know, the world used to hate people like Reagan and people used to like Blair - look how that's turned out.
>>81297277
Lol okay buddy. Someone who has no experience running anything bigger than a casino (and who managed to BANKRUPT a casino) definitely has the know-how to fix a struggling first-world country on the brink of economic collapse.
WEW
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LAD
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Trump has a jew daughter... why do you gullible fucks still support him?
>>81297477
>on the brink of economic collapse.
So, all that shit about Obama being a good president isn't true anymore?
I'm just asking. Shit, between Hillary shills and trumptards it's hard to keep track of the bullshit
>>81297477
>bankrupt casino
>still made a shitton of money off of that
>>81297477
yeah because extremely careless Hillary can fix our economy. She can't even handle a computer password.
>>81297752
Wellp better embrace the dissolution of the second amendment, the end of border control, accept getting 3 more liberal supreme court justice picks, massive outsourcing, etc. etc... all because he's got a jew relative. You dumb fuck.
>>81297477
You're trolling.
Trump is a billionaire real estate mogul and a marketer and one of the largest NYC Real Estate Developers next to Stephen Ross. He also manages a International Hotel Franchises and subsidiary companies all around the globe. And has done reality tv and political commentary on the side.
With Pence on his side, legislation will not be that hard
>>81297477
There is no secret formula that a politician can follow to fix things.
But based on economic data from the heritage foundation combined with data on the IQ and average skin color of countries, the three best predictors of a country's economic well being are
1) national IQ
2) skin color
3) low corporate and capital gains taxes.
Tariffs, which Trump supports, are somewhat negatively correlated with economic well being, but Trump is better than the rest on the top three. Hillary will brown the country, which will in turn lower the national IQ, and she will probably not touch, or perhaps slightly raise the corporate tax rate (Bernie would have skyrocketed it).
>>81297816
Lol no he's hot dog shit and he's sold us out from under the table.
>>81297841
>Managed to screw all his investors and run off with the money
>BUT HE'S NOT CORRUPT LIKE SHILLARY!
>>81297873
Never said she could. Both candidates are worthless. Just leveling the playing field. There's already plenty of reasons to hate Hillary, but people like to pretend Trump is some god-emporer and only the most hard-working educated people are voting for him when it's actually the opposite.
From the Article:
But in the places where support for him runs the strongest, the proportion of the white population that didn’t finish high school is relatively high. So is the proportion of working-age adults who neither have a job nor are looking for one. The third-strongest correlation among hundreds of variables tested: the preponderance of mobile homes.
In other words. All the lazy unemployed white niggers of the world are voting for Trump. How neat. I thought freeloaders voted liberal?
>>81298033
Lol he's a real estate agent. I guess you're going to elect a divorced suburban mother next?
>>81297816
ikr it's literally lefty sjw vs righty sjw
>>81298107
>>81297748
So what samefag
>>81298107
>Lol no he's hot dog shit and he's sold us out from under the table.
Oh. So voting in somebody twice as worse as him is a good idea? Why exactly? Because it's a woman or some shit?
If you people can't push through a third party then you deserve every awful thing you get.
>>81285250
Pence has voted consistently against all the "establishment" nonsense as a congressman. Watch his interview with Hannity. I personally think its a good choice.
For those who don't understand how this shit works they spent weeks looking at numbers. Percentage of likely voters who are X, determining where the campaign had holes in it and filling them with various people in the cabinet. This VP is based on the fact that a large portion of susceptible voters are evangelicals and conservatives. The gays are not a significant voting bloc. Plus the guy is well spoken, and compliments Trump's personality well.
>>81298107
>real estate agent
You're shilling at this point. He's a Real Estate DEVELOPER and Financer. And he's one of the biggest Real Estate Decelopers in the US especially in NYC our biggest City. I don't know why you keep underestimating him.
Politics isn't that hard, look at Scwarzenegger, Jesse Ventura, Ronald Reagan and Ron Paul (Physician). Real Estate Business and Coporate work is much more hard than Politics. Plus he has Pence to do the legislation for him
>>81298290
Just because I'm pointing out that Trump supporters are dumb, doesn't mean I'm voting Hillary.
If I vote at all it'll be third party. Rather throw my vote away than pretend it ever mattered anyway. Trump or Hillary, we all lose.
>>81298432
Politics is hard. It's just that your county has shit politicians that allows the Elite and Bankers to run the country. There's a reason why America is more cucked and why liberal ideas spread from America to the world.
>>81284026
Pence opposes the Federal Reserves. He thinks we should have exactly as much government as a flat 10% tax rate can afford, wants to amend the constitution to force our currency to be backed by something, and he (I'm assuming) lands somewhere on the middle right of the traditional political compass. His views on unimportant social issues are dated, but I don't land on the wrong side of the fence with any of them, and Pence and Trump both seem wise enough to not step on that pitfall. Pence is well spoken, passionate, and critical of our government.
I think it's a solid choice, and it gives me hope that Trump knows what the real issues in this country are and is building an army to take down the Federal Reserve. He'll fucking need it, too.
I understand the whole 4D chess thing but how do you spin the reports where he asked his top aides around midnight if he could back out of his vp pick? that just looks bad on trumps end
HOW DO YOU WANT YOUR PRESIDENCY SENPAI?
>>81299394
How do you "spin" them? Easy. You dismiss them as rumors, because that's all they are. Why the fuck would his aides leak something like that to the media? Every conversation he has with them is probably behind closed doors.
i wanted to post this question in that one hillary general but that looks like a thread to try and make er look bad,,
can someone red-pill me on benghazi? whats the story on that.
>>81299394
You just deny them.
Out of Christie, Newt and Pence, Pence was the best choice. He's already supporting Trump's immigration plans, so it's clear that he will put aside any areas of difference and work with Trump, and he is also a better, more calm and collected speaker than the other options.
#ONTHEFENCEWITHPENCE
#ONTHEFENCEWITHPENCE
#ONTHEFENCEWITHPENCE
#ONTHEFENCEWITHPENCE
GET IT TRENDING, LETS SINK THIS FAGGOT. HE TURNED ON US LIKE BERNIE TURNED ON THE SOCIALISTS. UNLIKE THOSE KEKS WE AREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT SITTING ON OUR BALLS. CRASH THIS CAMPAIGN
He was just about to win.
Then Pence was picked. Trump was trying to undo it, too. Seems he's been double crossed on the inside.
We'll hear all about it after he loses.
Which he now will. Pence just cost him any gay vote he might have gotten after Orlando. Two white guys.
He fucked right up. Should've been a woman or black guy or black woman even.
>>81300029
black trans-queer bi-sexual demigod
>>81300029
How large do you really think the gay vote is? They make up at most .5% of the population of any given state, and even that number is really, really fucking generous.
>>81300111
Shillary fags aren't allowed to use their own words. They have a script they copy and paste
>>81300173
The gay vote isn't just gay people. Shitloads of voters won't vote because to the general public being anti-gay is just as fucked as being anti-black in the 1950s
Redpill me on Pence lads
>>81300387
That's a fair point, but I still don't think it will be a big deal. Most pro-gay voters have hated Trump from the beginning because most pro-gay voters are also pro-black and pro-illegal immigrants.
I think he can safely absorb the hit. Trump has made at least one other questionable decision that /pol/ flipped its' collective lid over and said it has cost him the election, yet here they are saying it again.
>>81299394
Trump isn't playing 4D chess. He's playing 2D chess with Hillary.
>>81299677
This is the most likely option, but it still doesn't work well in Trump's favour, considering that the liberals have some more ammo now.
>>81299520
>That US-Israeli badge
Mein fucking sides
>>81300669
And lets not forget that the VP doesn't have any power that the President doesn't give to him. Just because Pence has backwards ideas on gays in general doesn't mean that Trump does.
>>81300387
>>81300173
I don't even understand how being pro gay is a progressive position anymore, we legalized gay marriage.
