Not a shill, I bought Trump gear, I even donated $200. Did I get jewed?
>>81285870
Name one concrete position Trump has.
>>81285870
You got trumped.
>>81285870
I'm with you OP, he's a faggot
>>81285921
The concrete he will pour on the border
pence is just some idiot whose brought along for the ride to appeal to the cuckservative vote. its all about trump in the end.
>>81285870
I think Pence is just a buttboi. Compromise between picking a career opportunist like Gingrich... who'd potentially backstab you every single fucking step of the way and behave like a Dick Cheney.
The only useful aspect to Pence is the fact he can shore up the GOP before the convention and have a solid bump moving forward. Meanwhile, the DNC will fall apart and become a joke. If you wanted a guaranteed landslide victory, this was one way to do it.
>>81285921
Trump:
-Against TPP, NAFTA
-Against Iraq war
Pence:
-Supports TPP, NAFTA
-Supported Iraq war, and doesn't regret it
>>81285921
Paul Manafort has lots of concrete ready for you
>>81286014
Underrated.
delete your account
-M
>>81285870
Pence is well spoken. Charisma is great to have. We don't need somebody like that stuttering mess Flynn. Just watched the Hannity interview, I'm now #OffTheFenceForPence
>>81286165
When was the last time a VP ever had any influence or did anything important? Pence is just assassination insurance for Trump to make it through his 4 years alive.
4D Chess
>>81286291
>assassination insurance
>implying an Evangelical Israel firster isn't exactly who they want as president.
>>81285921
This
Trump is EXTREMELY vague in his positions. His VP makes all the decisions, not Trump. Trump is just a sensational puppet. Nothing he says got written in stone.
>>81286014
>>81286201
Trump has flipflopped on *specifics* in his wall plan at least twice now.
>>81286165
But his /vp/ pick really shows him flipping on positions he hasn't yet flipped yet, like TPP.
And this isn't even mentioning all the others like abortion, nuclear proliferation, afghanistan, torture, israel, etc.
I just don't understand why people support him. I can understand people hating Hillary--don't we all?--but supporting Trump is a concept that eludes me.
>>81285870
What's wrong with Pence? his interview on Fox was good and matched Trump's talking points
>>81285870
>falling for the VP means something meme
everyone fails to understand that trump had literally no options. yes he had to appease conservatives because there are still romney and ryan fags that would make trumps admin hell because he's not a (((true))) conservative. get over it, he had to compromise on this one. this presidency is about getting as much support/votes from anyone trump or killary can. killary is polling horribly with men, but can probably get a shit ton of black support. trumps pulling hispanics and blacks and other ethnic minorities but he needs to maximize his chances in the base, as well.
>>81286445
>don't we all
I like Hillary
>>81285921
Muslim ban
that's all I need to hear
>>81286445
this implies he must adopt his VP's positions when it's absolutely the other way around
>>81286608
he flipfloped on that too.
>>81286608
You know that's only temporary right? He's also backed off on it and now just wants to ban immigration from "countries linked to terrorism".
>>81286585
>>81285870
http://www.strawpoll.me/10758719
>>81286744
This is a good point. I will now vote for Hillary Clinton for a country with no borders! #I'mWithHer
>>81286745
Not Illegal, I just like her more than Trump
>>81286744
But that's fine since most Muslim countries have a terrorist element in them
>>81286608
He actually said he is agaist muslim ban
>>81285870
Why would anyone donate to Trump? To show support or what? This guy is a billionaire.
>>81286045
But we don't need cuckservatives, they lost which shows they are weak and incapable. The actual GOP voters would go Trump, no way in fucking hell do they go Clinton. All that leaves is the conservative leadership, but they can fuck right off.
This party now, don't give the losers any consolidation prizes.
>>81285870
I was genuinely excited about Trumps for the first time
And Trump ruined it again
I am Cruzmissile Now
>>81285870
cant fence the pence.
>>81286866
I view Trump as marginally the best choice now, but I don't think I'll donate any more money or really be vocal in my support unless he really turns things around after the convention. The idea that an Evangelical Israel firster is one bullet away from the presidency makes me uneasy. Remember how Bush Senior was Reagan's VP, and how Reagan survived an assassination attempt? This shit is a real concern.
I'm a Trump supporter and I like Mike Pence. Trump is the one who is going to be in charge and it's odd that people don't grasp that. I really can't think of many vice presidents who got along with the presidents they served with before they were chosen.
>>81286886
he pretty much promised what obama is doing right now.
>>81286014
capped
>>81286881
>>81285870
What power does the VP hold?
I don't see a problem in trying to get more votes by appealing to a broader range of people?
It's not like he is appointed secretary of state or worse secretary of the interior.
I really don't get it?
>>81287232
Obama is more restricted in his accepting refugees thanks to an opposed legislative branch but make no mistake if they could we would have European levels of refugees here.
>>81285870
>MAGA hat for proof
>digital words that you paid $200
>I was chanting Trump before, but with his VP pick I have become super divisive
>no arguments why Flynn would be bad
Trumps campaign right now is about strength through unity.
Faced with these facts we can conclude, this is just another shill
>>81285870
>even donated $200
AHAHAHAHAHA oh wow
i love how trumptards have reveale themself as true cuckservative with their undying love of this globalist hack
>>81287451
No you hold the correct view my friend, I think most still put too much stock into the roll of VP when it's hasn't even really been a decent stepping stone to the White House in years. I think Bush senior over twenty years ago was the last one to take advantage of the office. It's almost more a ceremonial role now than anything else, aside from sitting around and waiting for the president to keel over dead.
>>81285870
I watched him speak on Fox. I never even heard of him before this but he is a good speaker. So far I support his choice so we'll see,
>>81285870
either he's a clinton plant or he's dumb enough to get himself JFK'd
>>81286291
uh, Dick Cheney was one of the most powerful vice presidents of all time
>>81287644
>no arguments why Flynn would be bad
That's because Flynn is based, I would have been ecstatic if he was selected.
>>81287920
Cheney was hardly any more powerful than Bush they were both controlled by Karl Rove.
>>81287976
Flynn is not vp material he gets tongue tied when he speaks. He will be given a position on the cabinet that will suit his needs.
>>81287835
The VP is basically just a an expensive ambassador for PR tours.
>>81287999
more like they were controlled by Wolfowitz and the PNAC losers
Still though, most people agree Cheney had far more influence then most other vice presidents.
>>81287451
Trump has no political record to speak of, so this was his first real official act. The first time we get to see if he's going to keep true to his campaign promises and fight the establishment, or if he's going to kowtow to their whims. And he bent the knee.
>>81285870
>Donating $200 to a billionaire
Yeah, you get Jewed
I was frustrated and felt betrayed when he chose Pence instead of Sessions or Flynn. Then when I cleared my head I knew he's forced into this by the GOP and to get the evangelical votes.
Why else would he pick an establishment VP as an anti establishment himself?
Just like how Bernie endorsed Shillary.
I'm not happy with this but he did what he gotta do to get GOP support.
I'll still vote for him in November
>>81288193
>And he bent the knee.
I disagree with that claim he as you say has no political experience therefore he needs to have people around him who do have experience. He can keep pushing his goals ahead but he cannot do that as one businessman in a political world. His choice has no impact on this.
>>81288193
And gave them an inconsequential position.
He still needs the GOP establishment for a while, at least now they have less "demand" for an actual position.
Appointing their man to be nothing more than a puppy was wise.
>>81285870
OP, now you know how Reagan supporters (denied in '76, finally got it i '80) felt when he was saddled with Bush as VP.
I can only say we have to trust Trump.
He'll fucking FIRE Pence if he doesn't deliver what Trump has been promised (help in passing his agenda in Congress).
>I donated to a guy that fully supports israel and is a personal friend of the Clinton family
>did i get jewed?
>>81285870
Name the last vice president that didn't suck.
In fact, name 5 vice presidents off the top of your head (no google you cheaters).
You can't, and you can't. Vice Presidents are irrelevant beyond the tiny amount of votes they bring from their particular region.
In fact, the Vice President has only one constitutional duty: to be the President of the Senate (enforce Senate rules and be the tiebreaking vote if there's a tie. There never is).
Teddy Roosevelt was selected as the VP in order to get him out of meaningful government and put him in a do nothing role. That's what the Vice President is.
>>81287232
Fuck off Muhammad Mike
>>81285870
I'd have been cool with Chris Christie or, to a lesser extent, Ben Carson.
Pence looks fine so far though.
>>81285870
I hate him and yes you did. He's Neocon establishment shill #3489348. If I wanted that I could have had Yeb! or Kasich or Rubio or Walker or Graham or...
Even presuming Trump gets elected now, Ryan will have him impeached just to make Pence President instead.
>>81288657
He's a Shillary tier globalist
Trump's presidency will be a spectacular flop and he'll be regarded as worse than Bush, cap this post
>>81288547
Biden, Cheney, Gore, Quayle, Bush
>>81288959
>Ryan will have him impeached just to make Pence President instead.
Fuck, I didn't realize this but you're right. Trump will at some point do something controversial and the GOP will initiate impeachment and the fucking Democrats will help.
Who wants to hear a funny story?
>>81285870
who cares? the vp doesn't do anything.
>>81289164
I do
>>81285870
You got jewed, OP. Everyone knows how excited the country was for Yeb!, the only candidate who could have beaten Hillary, and that she planted Trump to derail his campaign.
>>81289164
I jew
>>81289173
Dick Cheney was basically running shit during the Bush presidency. Also if a President is assassinated, the VP will obviously assume his role.
>>81289214
>>81289397
>/pol/ hates all Jews.
>/pol/ believes the holocaust is fake
>/pol/ hates America because of how much the Jews own
>/pol/ hates Clinton because she's a Jewish pawn
>/pol/ votes for the man with a Jewish daughter, Jewish son in law, and 2 Jewish grandchildren, that calls Israel America's most cherished ally
>/pol/ votes for a man who's running m8 also believes Israel is most cherished ally
you can't make even make this type of shit up
>>81285870
Definitely would have preferred Sessions. Or a meme candidate like Webb or Paul.
Flynn was shit, Pence is boring, Chrisite and Gingrich are too similar to Trump.
>>81289049
>bongistani cares more about American VPs than Americans do.
Let's be honest. You googled it.
But realistically, I took that challenge from a children's movie from the 1990s called The Sandlot. In it, the same challenge was given to the children characters. None of the American children could answer. But there was a British kid who rattled off 5 like it wasn't even hard.
>>81289589
Except that you did. That's what a strawman argument is. Congratulations.
>>81288547
Only cucks like you who only pay attention to politics when its sensational have no idea whos been running our government. Forget vp's name the last 2 speakers of congress. The vps office holds the power to make small changes with huge impact. Pay more attention to the government because the president isnt a dictator and the majority of the power is in congress.
>>81286386
>Trump is EXTREMELY vague
He is anything but vague
>Hip VP makes all his decisions
VP less than 24 hours. Like you or anybody knows this. After all, it's Trump.... He'll be making all the decisions.
>sensational puppet
Trump is no puppet. That's the MAIN reason why he his hated by the establishment.... Now fuck off shill
>>81286504
If TRUE conservatives couldn't be bothered to get out and vote in November against Hillary then they deserve to lose. Pence is everything that is currently wrong with the GOP and why they never win Presidential elections anymore.
This pick has set Trump's Change message back, bigly.
>>81285870
I was from the beginning on the TrumpTrain but since Pence everything has changed. Probably going now for shilldawg. I feel pretty jewed.
>>81289747
Can someone explain to a Britbong what the vice prez actually does?
Just fuck my nation up senpai
I feel like a bernout
And no dont vote for hillary
Fuck her too
>>81289528
there will be a civil war if trum gets assassinated.
and did you really compare trump to bush?
it's fucking bush.
the vp pick is completely irrelevant in every possible scenario.
>>81289904
Added to my growing compilation of delusion pro Trump supporters to dump at the end of the Trump presidency
I look forward to savouring the saltiness
>>81286165
Pence already flipped on TPP and the muslim ban like a bitch. The best Pro-Pence argument is "at least he isn't Newt or Christie". Sessions would be much better but I guess Trump got swayed by Pence's decent economic record as gov.
>>81290031
Nothing much anymore. He's practically a rubber stamp
>>81290031
Literally fucking nothing.
>>81290031
Nothing.
>>81289895
>name the last 2 speakers of congress
What, Boehner and Ryan? Why is that hard? How about name the important accomplishments of Pelosi, and why her rule is similar to Gingrich's, but different from those two more recent Republicans?
Or perhaps why Gingrich was the first Republican Speaker of the House in 40 years.
VPs have no power but what the President delegates to them, which is usually nothing. That said, Cheney was an incredibly powerful VP by historical standards. Biden is nothing by comparison, but neither was Gore.
Anyway, you completely missed the point of my post, which was twofold: the popular concept of Vice Presidents is nonexistent, and the Vice President office is toothless. Both of which are a critical response to the OP's point, which is to be concerned with Trump's running mate over political ideological grounds.
>>81290010
>/pol/ is one person
You love this meme, don't you?
>>81290263
Or everything.
>>81290190
Trump picked a VP that opposed everything Trump stood on.
We got fucked and no amount of /pol/ damage control can undo this.
>hillary's numbers go down from FBI shit
>gotta tank Trump's numbers somehow, to fill agreement
>>81290386
They already voted Jeb out, Dick. Go away.
>>81290031
Constitutionally, his only duty is to be President of the Senate, meaning he enforces the rules of the Senate and casts the tiebreaking vote. In practice, he almost never even bothers to attend.
After that, by law he is next in line of succession should the President be killed or deemed incompetent to preform his duties. Few Presidents have died in office, but it sometimes happens. None have ever been deemed incompetent.
The real power of a Vice President is how much influence they have with the President, and how much the President delegates to them in the executive branch. Also, they may be useful as negotiators with other members of government if they are skillful or have many contacts.
How's that?
>>81290563
Au contraire, M. L'Espange. They never voted ¡Yeb! in.
I had some hope in Trump until this shit happened. He should have chose a democrat. That shit would have been a complete game changer, especially if it were Jim Webb like we had all hoped it would be a few months back.
I honestly cannot in good conscience vote for him anymore. Being a registered libertarian i'm probably just going to vote GJ even if he doesn't win.
>81290394
and you wonder why he kept saying he wanted to be unpredictable, we have been fucking jewed to the max
I need a shill-free answer here.
What are the pros and cons of Mike Pence? Do they outweigh Gingrich's?
>>81290594
>President be killed or deemed incompetent to preform his duties. Few Presidents have died in office, but it sometimes happens. None have ever been deemed incompetent.
>None have ever been deemed incompetent.
Yet.
>>81290697
>I was gonna vote for a guy who wants to build a wall on the border and is against TPP
>but now I'm voting for a guy who wants open borders and is for TPP
>I will do this because he brought on a VP who is for the TPP
This is some next level shilling.
>>81291236
That's true. The future is unwritten. But we've been going on this system for over 200 years. It's got a track record.
>>81291255
Oh fuck are you shitting me?
I'm not voting then fuck this election.
This would have been my very first time voting too.
>>81285870
Mike Pence is Trump's dog; an attempt to draw in more of the centrist crowds.
Do you see Biden barking all the orders in the white house?
No, it's that nigger Obama with his overreaching executive orders.
>>81291000
He's not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed
He doesn't believe evolution is real, nor that smoking makes you at risk for cancer
>>81291454
>more of the centrist crowds
then he should have chose fucking JIM WEBB
>>81286014
Based
>>81291454
>Mike Pence is Trump's dog; an attempt to draw in more of the centrist crowds.
Pence is NOT A CENTRIST. Pence is far right neo-con bible thumper.
He will scare away independents and moderate democrats.
Trump made a big mistake here unless he starts making pence publicly disavow his previous statements and endorsements of people like Cruz (fyi, centrists don't endorse cruz.)
>>81286445
its because the American system is a sham, and if we don't go for trump, we get the war-criminal Hillary.
I don't want or like trump, but even he is preferable to someone that would start enacting the genocide of millions.
>>81285870
>babby's first election
Do you honestly think this will change anything? The VP choice is ALWAYS about securing a secondary constituency where the presidential candidate is weak. And it never changes anyone's mind anyway.
It means literally nothing. Stop acting like a hysterical woman.
>>81286445
Trump doesn't flip-flop. He specifies information. There isn't a single thing he has said that directly conflicts with another thing he said since he started running.
Prove me wrong.
>Protip: you can't
>>81287451
>I don't see a problem in trying to get more votes by appealing to a broader range of people?
I don't see how Pence is going to appeal in anyway to a broader range of voters. (((True))) conservatives have no choice but Trump anyways. They wanna stay home because of Trump? Congrats on committing suicide. Supreme Court will be finished for the next 20 years at least. The demographics will only get worse, Clinton will give illegal amnesty (locking in their vote for generations...see Reagan and Cubans), and we will become a one party country...the stars already have to align for a republican to win the presidency and it's not going to get easier. If they have any brain cells left then they have to vote Trump. And they will...I think it's mostly posturing at the moment.
Trump needs to grab independents and peel away blue collar democrats or more conservative democrats who are not happy about Clinton...perhaps some Bernfags will protest votes as well. This is his only chance. Pence IS THE ABSOLUTE WORSE CHOICE for this.
Bottom line - Trump caved in to cuckervative pressure...the same loser he destroyed doing it his way all through the primary.
>>81285870
I LOST A 25 DOLLAR BET REEEEEEEEE
>>81292348
Pence has already given an interview to Fox where he laid all of Trump's talking points in a direct manner. He already stands behind the platform.
>>81292433
>I don't want Trump
>genocide of millions
Are you high?
>>81292471
>says he wants the government to pay for healthcare
>says he wants to open up the markets for healthcare
>>81292668
Pence unites the party at a time when Dems are desperately trying to do the same. The Never trump train is basically over (actually is literally over since the movement died yesterday during the rules vote). Trump alone can attract the independents and blue collar voters, I would rather he play a safe card than some off the wall VP pick like Mcain did
>>81292668
I don't think you appreciate how many conservatives are planning to sit this one out. For them it was Cruz or nothing.
Many of them probably sat out 2012 as well, so they don't care if it means Hillary is elected.
This might change a few of those minds. Time will tell, but it's smarter than getting another wushy-washy moderate.
No recent Republican has ever won by tracking left. Romney tried, McCain tried, Dole tried. Ford tried. Only staying right is successful.
>>81292733
Link to him recanting his decades long support, as recent as this march, for TPP/NAFTA and free trade in general.
Link to him saying the Iraq war was a mistake.
Link to him saying that we need to stop immigration for Islam.
Link to him saying to BUILD WALL.
Seriously, link me to the interview.
>trump runs his whole campaign as an anti-establishment thing
>chooses the most pro-establishment guy he can find to be his VP
>a guy who voted for the patriot act, for the iraq war, etc.
Can't make this shit up. Trump is actively trying to throw the election because he has been a pawn of the Hillary campaign all along. I said this at the very start. It's probably baffling to him that he still has so much support even though every week he tries to say or do something bigger and better to damage his campaign.
>>81292980
His argument is no different than what most Dems scream about Trump and how he is literally Hilter. I don't agree with using the comparison but I understand those that fear Hillary more than Trump, she has a much more darker political past
>>81286165
Trump can be against anything that isn't in the wind because he has never been in a position to vote for anything.
>>81293045
Those arent mutually exclusive though...
>>81286744
He never had a 'muslim ban'.
His official policy was not to issue visas to any "Islamic countries who hate us" which is pretty much the whole middle east/central asia/ect. US not allowing visas is pretty common, Obama trolled Israel a few years ago denying them visas over some dispute.
Trump has a hardon for immigration because the 9/11 guys were all here illegally on expired visas and from derka shitholes known for terrablismz
>>81285870
>Thinking Pence is going to influence Trump
Silly Anon.
>>81293178
It was on fox, you can google and watch it. do I have to hold your hand on the Internet?
>>81293450
he's been saying he'd be willing to make "deals" and negociating with politicians so
>>81293178
It's at the top of the Trump General thread.
>>81292668
But they don't see it that way or they wouldn't be """"true conservatives"""" in the first place. These people are delusional christcucks. They are all for open borders and think they can convert the messicans to their cause. That's why they'd rather vote for Hillary than Trump.
These people do not care about race, all they care about is christcucks vs everybody else.
>>81293507
Trump is going to go back on half his promises in the name of "making deals" regardless.
>>81286291
>Pence is just assassination insurance for Trump to make it through his 4 years alive.
Pro-Israel, Pro-TPP..."assassination insurance" doesn't mean "ensure he will get assassinated"
>>81289033
youre expecting us to hold on to an image of your post for eight years? fine, but you better be here when i re-post it
>>81293629
then why in the fuck is /pol/ supporting him?
>>81285870
It doesn't matter what /pol/ says.
MIKE PENCE HAS SINGLE HANDEDLY STUMPED THE TRUMP
SCREENCAP THIS
>>81293620
Christians who want open borders are already voting for Hillary anyway.
If Germany had more baptists and trad Catholics I guarantee you wouldn't be as cucked as you are now.
>>81293463
>>81293519
So he doesn't disavow those things.
Got it.
Trump is extending his olive branch to the #NeverTrump vanilla GOP voters with this establishment guy. Watch Romney start shilling for Trump soon too.
If he chose McRadical Extremist as his running mate then he wouldn't win, you need Joe Biden 2.0 to help you win more states, be the party whip that rallies the establishment GOP base ect.
>>81293747
Because he's willing to say unpopular things, even though nobody thinks he will actually follow through with them.
does anyone here even have a doubt about trump being a shillary plant to ensure democratic presidency/congress wins for the next 20 years?
>>81293809
It doesn't matter what he personally believes. He exists to get Trump elected.
Good leaders like to have people nearby who disagree with them. Only an insecure idiot sets up an echo chamber.
>>81286014
Holy shit, that was golden. This is funny compared to the epic le bantz that /pol/ usually has.
>>81293747
Because that's still half of his stuff that does get through...plus fuck Hillary she's a cunt.
>>81287920
That's because George Bush was a mentally deficient coke head.
Cheney was like his baby sitter
>>81293835
Exactly. Even the leafs get it.
Most of the people ITT have never participated in an election, I'd bet.
>>81293943
Nigger, this is prima facie evidence that Trump either doesn't actually care about those things or is willing to give them up to win.
If he gives those up he's not worth voting for.
>>81285870
He's solid core on immigration, and its not exactly easy to find someone who lines up with Trump on all the issues.
>>81293980
Did your social studies teacher tell you that?
Bush was a better impromptu speaker than Obama.
>>81290031
basically the president's bitch, i mean secretary, works with congress to get deals done. sometimes talks to not important world leaders.
>>81290031
The VP is where political careers go to die
Their only significance is the 1 VP debate, which is almost always a shitshow
The Palin/Biden was my favorite. Doofus and goofus
Trump is playing the presidential race like a pro. He was boisterous and sensational to ensure the nomination, and now he's settling down to be the respectable president America wants. In the meantime, Hillary is drowned in scandals and lies. I have no doubt Trump will win the election. It may be close, but he will win.
>>81285870
Retard
>>81294102
this
he looked like a retard but he was a man used to bullshit his way on life and for fucks sake he was a son of the biggest master manipulator president
>>81294032
You sound like a retard. Stop. Bernie is an example of someone who threw their fans under the bus this does nothing because a vp h no swaying power. Look at Biden who was supposed to be a counter voice to Obama and did absolutely nothing.
>>81294102
Setting the bar real low there
Bush blew out his brain with cocaine in college and never quite recovered
>>81294235
What did Bernie get in return?
I'm forgetting
>>81293056
>The Never trump train is basically over
That why I think Pence is a wasted choice.
>>81293132
>I don't think you appreciate how many conservatives are planning to sit this one out.
They have to vote...for all the reason I laid out. Anyone one of them that actually pays attention to politics will have no choice but Trump if they ever want anything resembling conservatism in the White House ever again.
>No recent Republican has ever won by tracking left.
He doesn't have to track left, but appeal to moderate libs on certain issues...Trump already does this with some indep and blue collars on many issues. Reagan did this twice...why do you think he was so popular?
Pence pulls him into evangelical neocon cuck territory...what the people rejected for Trump.
It's the safe VP pick...no votes gained no votes lost. Seeing how he desperately needs to pick up limbo votes, I think this hurt his chances.
>>81294065
What are his stances on immigration?
>>81294032
Why isn't it evidence that Pence is willing to change on issues and be adopt a more Trump like view? He already supports Donland's immigration policy and states "absolutely" that Mexico will build the wall.
>>81285921
This isn't why people are voting Trump, at all.
>>81294277
donations that he gave to Shillary
>>81285870
Yes you got jewed because you're a dumbass high school dropout like most Trump fans.
>>81294175
jesus the denial
trump had better "the stablisment, maaan" candidates, better populist candidates but he, purposedly elected an impopular homophobe hack to purposely fuck his numbers because this month the polls started to look better for him.
And that would be a problem considering he's just a shillary plant.
>>81294238
>being this much of a kid
I bet you were 1 when the towers fell
Bush speaks like a retarded monkey because that's his Yankee approximation of a Southern accent. He pretended to be a moron so that people would assume Cheney was running the show and blame him. The more liberals said he was a dumb redneck the more pissed off rednecks got so they always turned out to vote for him.
Bush was always a New Englander wearing "southface" and you actually fell for the "he is le dumb" meme.
>>81285870
>he cares about who the lobbyist is gonna be
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
People shit on Bernie for spreading his asshole for Hillary, but when Trump does it for the #NeverTrump Zionist cuckservatives, it's A-OK?
wew lad
Heck, even Christie, a guy that is stablishment and even people was begging him to run the primaries last elections would be a better "the stablishment, maaaan" candidate for VP
>>81294336
Lol DUDE, YOU FUCKING REKT HIM! I TIP MY HAT TO YOU, YOU MASTERFUL SIR
>>81293620
>These people are delusional christcucks. They are all for open borders and think they can convert the messicans
Those are the elite conservatives...the neocon politicians. The republican voters don't want amnesty. A few thousand elites abstaining the vote won't make a difference.
>>81294468
Sound like someone who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>81294336
You sound angry and bitter, did someone steal your student loan money?
>>81294448
Exactly. His family are a bunch of sociopathic geniuses. All these 20 somethings think they're so much smarter, but they're too fucking dumb to see how much of a manipulator he really is.
>>81294448
which towers?
>>81294585
Excellent retort, did someone fuck your sister before you got a chance to?
>>81294541
Sounds like Paul Ryan sent you here to shill for Mike "Israeli officials should dictate U.S. policy" Pence.
The underage faggots who don't know about Cheney might get fooled, but I'm not falling for you antics you slimy yid.
>>81294340
Trump needs a guy who can still pander to his base, which is all homophobe/anti abortion ect.
Trump also needs a political veteran who can at the very least help him win a state (his own) and help him write legislation and shop it to congress to pass.
Trump also needs to bring in all the fractured GOP like Graham and Mittens, esp Mittens with his sway over Mormon voters. Trump also needs to appeal to neocons and old Bush supporters within the RNC ect.
Find me somebody else that fits all those categories
>>81294697
Welcome to your first election child. When you learn how little a vp does you'll understand them a bit better.
>>81294448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBf4DCpL1Q4
>>81294298
1. He voted for THE WALL
2. English should be the official language of the US
3. Revoke birthright citizenship
4. Solid 100% rating from FAIR
Its important to note that Pence differs from Trump on basically everything -- except on border control and immigration.
>>81294494
Does Christie have a rock solid border stance like Trump? Remind me again?
>>81294759
>20 something year old NEET calling me a child
You getting triggered, shill?
I lived through to see what Cheney did with our foreign policy For all I know Pence could be the same type of snake. Which isn't unreasonable considering that he was pro-TPP, vehemently pro-Israel, anti-Trump's wall, pro-Cruz, etc.
>>81294697
Oh noez, Trump is allowing a 100% border control veep to sit at his side. Whatever will we do?
>>81294336
Hey how much do you guys get paid?
>>81294709
>Trump needs a guy who can still pander to his base, which is all homophobe/anti abortion ect.
Like chris christie?
>Trump also needs a political veteran who can at the very least help him win a state (his own) and help him write legislation and shop it to congress to pass.
Like chris christie?
>Trump also needs to bring in all the fractured GOP like Graham and Mittens, esp Mittens with his sway over Mormon voters. Trump also needs to appeal to neocons and old Bush supporters within the RNC ect.
Like chris christie?
And without being a perfect target for "trump supports racism and homophobia"
It's like trump just want to keep plundering the GOP treasure minimizing the chances to steal the election from his overlord shillary
>>81295052
I wish I was getting paid. I just like to stir the pot before I go to work in the morning.
If I was getting paid to post facts I wouldn't be sweating my balls off every day at a real job.
>>81293794
Funny you say that as it is church groups who rake in the money from directly importing and housing rapeugees. It's christcucks who try to hide mudslimes in their churches when they are to be deported. It's christcucks who take down the crosses in their church where they house rapeugees as to not offend them.
Christians are cucked beyond redemption.
>>81294952
Shill? I could care less who the vp is it could be fucking Charlie Sheen telling me he will rub tiger blood on all of our planes to make them fly faster and I'd still vote Trump.
>>81295122
Chris Christie would be a worse choice, as his record on immigration issues is weak as fuck.
>>81295146
>im a WORKIN MAN
>I WORK
>i CONTRIBUTE
Lol, real impressive, faggot. Do you tie your shoes all by yourself, too?
>>81294984
>border control
Are you retarded? He's for a border "fence", which is basically what we have right now. He's also for open borders "skilled worker" H1B visa shit and TPP as I mentioned earlier.
>>81295184
I'm still voting, but only because he's not Clinton. Not because I think he'll actually make a significant difference anymore.
>>81285870
I honestly don't care.
The only VP choice that would have mattered to me is Flynn, and it's not like VP actually does anything anyway.
>>81285870
Here's a quick lesson on how Republicans win general elections even though they are at a huge disadvantage:
GW Bush got crushed in every demographic in 2000 except for one category, he won the social conservative vote in a landslide. So basically, if you can get the conservatives out of bed on Election Day, you win.
Pence gets the conservatives out of bed on Election Day and still keeps the establishment from fucking over Trump.
Trump is useless if he doesn't win in November. Pence is a good choice to win, but not the best. Ted Cruz would have ensured a landslide victory in November... Pence will make it a tight race.
>>81295370
Lol I never said it was impressive, but according to even basic statistics, I'm contributing more than most Trump fans.
Funny how assblasted you guys get about numbers when they aren't reinforcing your narrative.
>>81295419
He's got a 100% rating from FAIR and wants to end birthright citizenship. Just enforcing existing laws, + ending birthright citizenship, would be quite enough.
>>81294629
So Jeb is autistic on purpose?
>>81286014
MAH NIGGA
>>81295694
no one can act that well
>>81293450
>MIKE PENCE
exactly, trump is using pence to gain support from wavering republicans. Not a shill.
>said that he will pick someone who is a politician to counter-balance himself
And now you nerds act surprised. Shills or just retards?
>mfw there are people here who actually think that the Iraq war, TPP and NAFTA are bad
>>81295633
We'll see; it all sounds like smoke and mirrors right now. He's a cuckservative through and through in the end, right down to being pro-amnesty but pretending not to be.
>>81295694
I'm not sure. I feel like Jeb might just be that autistic. If he's acting, he's doing it well.
>>81295923
0/10, this is weak sauce
>>81290697
You're a Hillary supporter... we get it.
Gary is the least libertarian in the Libertarian Party.
>>81295611
>yeah u kno me i like to stir up the pot BEFORE I GO TO WORK
>I SWEAT MY BALLS OFF AT WORK
You sure want it to be known. And yeah, you sure showed us with your little graph. Oh no, muh narrative has been exposed! You weren't supposed to know that I'm white trash ;(
>>81286014
>>81295929
Ok. The point is that none of the other options even PRETENDED to be a strong borders guy, and borders is what has caused Trump the most fame and infamy.
>>81296264
So anyone can be qualified as long as they lie about supporting Trump's stances?
>>81296212
Hey man I'm just sharing facts.
If facts hurt your feelings go check out Reddit, no safe spaces here.
Why is it not edgy to post statistics on black crime but it's somehow laughable to post statistics on Trump supporters?
Can you even pretend to not be a bias sack of shit?
>>81294772
>methodist pretending to be a baptist
>>81294861
I guess we can be certain that immigration isn't one of the things Trump will compromise on then
>>81296343
Anyone can be qualified as long as they will massively help your chances, are well respected by the base and have endorsed at least your core position for longer than you've been in the race.
I'm really seeing nothing in, say, Christie or Newt or who the fuck ever you'd prefer that even pretended to be of a Trumpian stance prior to his arrival.
>>81291000
pros: he's dumb as a rock
cons: he's dumb as a rock
So since Trump picked Pence it's basically confirmed he's doing everything he can to force liberals to vote for Clinton, who also flip flops on her policies pretty often and is so out of touch she thinks "positive gangs" can be a thing.
Am I the only one who feels like we're very closely coming to the end of the American Empire?
>>81294709
>Trump needs a guy who can still pander to his base, which is all homophobe/anti abortion ect.
Newt is basically a "born again" Catholic, and has spoken numerous times about cultural decay and faith being pushed out of our communities. He could help ease thier minds, while easing away from dragging in dead debates like gay marriage or those still wanting to repeal abortion rights.
>Trump also needs a political veteran who can at the very least help him win a state (his own) and help him write legislation and shop it to congress to pass.
Newt can't bring a state (his one flaw), but he's the candidate with the most experience in Washington by far—congressman for 20yrs, majority whip form 6, and speaker of the house (2nd in line for secession) for 4yrs—which gells perfectly with Trumps compete lack of political experience. He was a thorn in the side of the Clintons his whole time as speaker...he's knows how to handle them.
>Trump also needs to bring in all the fractured GOP like Graham and Mittens, esp Mittens with his sway over Mormon voters. Trump also needs to appeal to neocons and old Bush supporters within the RNC ect.
Newt could do this with all of these types...he's part of the boys club insider politics.
>>81296732
Concern troll.
>>81296377
>just statin facts bro
>GO TO REDDIT, BRO, GO TO YOUR SAFE SPACE
>see? i can use that word, toooo
>ur frikkin biased
And you call me reddit. Ahh, boy. What are you even saying with that comment on statistics? How are those two even remotely related? Your logic is that because there are idiots who support Trump, it invalidates his positions. A savant might love My Little Pony. Does that somehow make it better or worse? You're a snarky faggot.
>>81296917
Why do people keep trying to shove over things that aren't evangelicals in the hopes that they will be "good enough" and surprised that republicans keep losing presidential elections?
Newt also didn't really have anything Trumpian about his policies until now.
>>81295923
>mfw there are people here who think you can bring democracy to the middle east without the vermin instantly voting for islamism
>mfw there are people here who thought islamists would just magically disappear when the one guy keeping them in check was removed
>mfw there are people here who think the lives of a few kurds are worth creating a flood of "refugees" to overrun europe
>mfw there are people here who unironically support outsourcing work to china and mexico
>>foxnews
>>81297005
My point is that a majority of Trump supporters are uneducated trailer trash. If you can't see the correlation there then it's probably because you're part of that group.
I shouldn't have to hold your hand and spell everything out.
DUMB PEOPLE ARE VOTING FOR TRUMP. THAT'S PRETTY FUNNY AND IT SAYS A LOT ABOUT HIS PLATFORM.
Jeeze, way to fight that "we're all dumbasses" image.
>>81297315
Your point is fucking retarded. Who needs to hold your hand, little boy?
>>81297315
I don't understand what your point is, of course 50% of the voters are below 100 IQ because that is how a bell curve works. Obama won in 2008 and 2012 and statistically most of his supporters had to be uneducated. I guess that says a lot about his platform.
>>81290394
Key word here is "opposed" as in past tense. Pence flipped when he Trump offered him the VP position and he knew Trump wouldn't have anyone on board that wouldn't bow down to his platform.
>>81297461
Lol says you. And I don't care about the opinion of someone who probably doesn't have central air in his single-wide
>>81297602
IQ was literally never mentioned. There is no bell curve for high school diplomas and double-wide trailers, shit-for-brains.
No matter how you spin this you aren't going to change the facts. There is a definite and obvious correlation between being uneducated trash and voting for Trump. Sorry that hurts your fee-fees.
>>81297092
I'm not sure what you mean, but Trump is already popular with evangelicals...he was beating out Cruz with evans in these states.
Newt has come around, and he's quick and savvy enough to make the differences work. He is as whip smart and will out debate any VP pick. It would also to crucial to have newt as right hand man coaching trump...he can bullshit around any subject and trump needs coaching on issues, facts, alliances/dealings, etc.
>>81285870
Not a shill (republican funded lie), but hillary is a way better candidate.
>>81297748
so what
>>81297315
>No college degree means no intelligence
The libshit mind in action
>>81288344
This
>>81297748
Okay, I know your job is to reply for money, but please put in the effort. I want to help you make end's meet because I have a heart. Who are you voting for, then? Or, what is your solution to the problems? Because dwumpf is foh idiotz ;)
>>81297945
Don't worry, you don't have to be a shill that's a retarded supporter of a criminal that claims to have experience and be good at her job. (while her aides claim otherwise)
>>81297973
Read the picture again dipshit it's NO HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE.
Lol way to prove you aren't part of the group niggerboy.
The Trump supporters illiteracy in action.
>>81298201
Voting for nobody because I don't participate in dog-and-pony shows. If you want to convince yourself that your opinion and voice matters and that a meme candidate has your best interests in mind, be my guest. I'm just here to laugh at the circus.
>>81297932
Newt would be better off in an office with actual power, same with Christie and Carson. Trump chose a candidate that would be the best person to fill an ineffectual office. I just wish he had chosen a candidate without such a hard right track record because it'll turn off independents.
Anything beats a american version of Merkel.
If you are stupid enough to dump Trump over this then you deserve everything you get
>>81288344
>Pence
>establishment
ok...
>>81298293
No high school diploma means nothing. I technically don't have a high school diploma either but I still make more money than a faggot with a college degree in gender studies.
>>81297315
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/chapter-6-social-and-political-views/
Intelligence has little to do with predicting political awareness.
Leftist ideology is incorrect on a factual basis. It is not a difference of opinion.
If 70% of American Jews, who have above average post-graduate education, are leftists, what does that say?
Assuming that Jews are not only more educated but also more intelligent, it's clear that being so does not preclude someone from having incorrect political beliefs. If anything, it makes you more susceptible to it.
I don't credit the right wing with being intelligent or having a calculated position. I think right wingers are only correct by chance. Their beliefs are mostly instinctual, and are coincidentally congruent with nature. Right wing ideology is about 90% correct. The 10% that is incorrect is the portion that is explicitly based on religion.
>>81297945
Hillary a better candidate? I'm gonna disagree with ya amigo, but stay comfy anyway
>>81298293
Yeah, okay, real fucking epic and enlightened that you've figured out that voting is pointless, but all you're doing is bitching and being snarky.
>im just watchin the world burn dewd *puts on sunglasses*
>>81298293
So what
>>81298293
Because if they didn't specify white, then all the no high school diploma counties would be voting for Hillary, lol
Who do you think make up the majority of uneducated people in America? It's not white people.
>>81296732
Yes.
There is no stopping the collapse. Trump might delay it a generation.
>>81298293
>niggerboy
Does the Hillary know how you talk?
>>81286165
Trump:
-Running for President
Pence
-Running for a do-nothing just-in-case position
>>81285870
Why is Trump going with a lizardman? was he so distracted by jewgold that he voluntarily picked a lizard as his VP?
>>81298485
Lol "not even being smart enough to finish high school means nothing!"
Lol okay. But if this was a graph about Bernie supporters you'd be losing your fucking mind calling them all dumbfucks. GOOOOOD SHIT BRO.
>>81298677
>HES SAYING THINGS I DONT LIKE MUST BE A SHILL
This is why nobody takes you little babies seriously. You literally can't take hearing anything you disagree with.
>>81286014
PUT ME IN THE CAP, reddit
:)
>>81289904
What about if the Trump is a puppet to the elite so that the media can hate him and say to everyone that 'Hillary isn't actually bad'?
>>81298513
liberals try overwriting human nature with social constructs.
I don't think everybody would be happy no matter who he picked. We would have veteran Cruz shills here complaining even if he did pick Flynn or Webb and the same situation if he picked Gringich or Sessions. Just vote Trump or fuck off to reddit we've been through this shilling before.
>>81298880
The Trump hate from the "establishment" is 100% theater.
This is a guy who has literally admitted to being part of the system his whole life and using it to build his entire fortune and being best friends with all the members of the establishment and he has all these numbnuts convinced he's actually going to turn around and burn the whole thing to the ground and spit in everyone who helped him get here's face.
Hilarious. Yep, he's looking out for YOU.
>>81298745
>HES SAYING THINGS I DONT LIKE MUST BE A SHILL
Every time, you shills have that same tired ass response.
>u must b smart 2 finish hi skool
Yeah, high school is a real test of intellect, huh? You're acting like you're so smart and above it all, but you still believe in bull shit like high school.
>>81285921
ayy lmao get cucked kiddo
>>81286014
