Reminder Donald Trump does not believe in climate change. A vote for Trump is a vote to end all life on earth.
Why do you say that like it's a bad thing? The non-whites will die first while whites will use their superior tech to stay alive.
>>80759374
This. Only niggers and cucks worry about global warming.
>>80759374
>The non-whites will die first while whites will use their superior tech to stay alive.
And when the the earth is uninhabitable and we are having world wars over water supply?
well he's not totally wrong. the left lied about climate change, and the natural cycles of the earth.
we have reached the "point of no return" at least 10 times in the past decade and nothing has happened.
>>80759291
>shit quality JUST edit
Go back to tumblr
>>80759291
>A vote for Trump is a vote to end all life on earth.
you're acting like it's a bad thing
>>80759542
>implying we won't have perfected desalinization by then
>implying global catastrophe won't put tech development in overdrive
>implying we aren't terraforming before global warming is an issue
>implying humans won't adapt
>>80759291
OP IS FAGGOT
>it's the climate change meme again
>>80759547
>we have reached the "point of no return" at least 10 times in the past decade and nothing has happened.
We haven't reached the point of no return. The next 10-20 years we will if we don't do anything about it, which Trump will not do anything. So when we are all old, our children will be breathing lead in the air.
>>80759291
well for every one that believes in climate change you understand that it takes decades for any emissions to get high in the atmosphere. they get tossed about by micro currents and the jet stream
point is if the difference between humans getting to live on this planet for another couple of decades is being chosen right now its to late
the rain forest will be depleted and more people in developing nations will drive cars. there will be more fossil fuel burning power plants. if your right its been to late to stop it for 2 decades
>>80759291
That doesn't matter, because whether you have a conservative or liberal POTUS they don't actually care about environmentalism.
Not even Manbearpig himself really cared.
>>80759720
>>80759783
>>80759832
>>80759841
>>80759881
>if I pretend climate change doesn't exist, it will magically disappear!
>>80759291
Go suck a dick
Trump is a faggot who takes millions for the fossil fuel industry.
>>80759291
>A vote for Trump is a vote to end all life on earth.
GUESS IM A TRUMPER NOW
>>80759991
>Go suck a dick
GOOD POST
>>80759954
You're asserting that man made climate change exists and is an existential threat to humanity. The burden of proof is on you. You've currently made zero arguments.
>>80759954
>if i pretend climate change exists, maybe dumb faggots will believe me and vote a shitty socialist like bernie into office!
Trump's also an Israeli firster, wants pro-NAFTA Newt as VP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>80759885
im not saying we have, or that we won't.
I'm saying that climate change advocates have cited dates multiple times that we've already passed and they were full of shit every time. almost bad as christfags and prophecies.
>>80759291
Donald Trump doesn't believe that man has been the cause of a significant enough portion of warming temperatures to merit large-scale dem programz to prevent it.
This is one of the positions that I'm most adamantly supportive of him on.
>>80760141
>You're asserting that man made climate change exists
Which every scientist around the world believes. Are you a scientist faggot?
>>80760317
>Donald Trump doesn't believe that man has been the cause of a significant enough portion of warming temperatures to merit large-scale dem programz to prevent it.
Yeah Trump's a dumb uneducated faggot who also believes in creationism and tax cuts will magically make everyone RICH RICH RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>80759291
better to die free under trump than to live as a slave to muslims and cucks
>>80759291
He's also anti-vax, and Nigel Farage endorses homeopathy. Are we backing retards?
>>80759291
>climate change
>>80760327
remove your self from existence
>libcucks who want to save the environment keep their rooms at 50 degrees and never shut their computers off so they can seed their japshit cartoons
>>80760446
>Are we backing retards?
Yes, which explains the average IQ level of the average /pol/tard.
Oh, Jesus, i didn't know this. I can't vote for someone who doesn't believe in a total consensus from left-wing scientists. I am now a #BigJohnson.
>>80759291
Global average temperature has been stable for over a decade now ...
I believe in climate change change.
>>80760535
>total consensus from left-wing scientists
Reality sort of has a liberal basis. The more educated you are the most left you are.
>>80759291
>End all life on earth
And they say he's a demagogue.
Climate change isn't an issue, ocean acidification is.
>>80759954
>if I pretend climate change doesn't exist, it will magically disappear!
not what i said
>>80760615
Except for climate data for the last 15 years, that part of reality is an outlier.
climate change is bullshit. not to mention they had to start calling it that instead of global warming because too many people pointed out that temperatures haven't actually been getting warmer.
besides who cares if anything does happen. wont be for hundreds of years
>A vote for Trump is a vote to end all life on earth.
I know, mate. Can't wait.
>>80760777
remember in what was it, the 70's when it was called "global cooling"?
>>80759291
>this entices the average /pol/ack
>>80760659
A lack of wild seafood won't hurt the US.
>>80760421
>>80760777
>the climate change-global warming-semantics argument
The problem with the climate change argument is that the fucking left has pushed their entire agenda on MORE gov spending and bullshit programs that at the end of the day will not make that big of a fucking difference in the grand scheme of things.
Anyone that believes in global warming and use the "97% of all scientist....." argument tell me some actual plans to combat the .3 change in temp and that does not involve some sort of increased gov control.
>>80759291
Trump actually thoroughly understands climate change... however for political reasons, he is taking a right-wing stance on it. Learn-to-politic faggot. Idiot.
Trump knows climate change is real and he also knows it's GREATLY exaggerated.
Kill yourself. Also, learn science.
>>80762403
Stop using fossil fuels, simple as that.
>>80759291
Good.
>>80762764
>stop using the fuel that has benefited humanity and has done more for industrial, mechanical and tech growth then anything before it
Yeah, ok Leaf, just resort back to the 1500s again I guess?
>>80762403
Deregulate nuclear, the greenest technology.
But then juden cant make a fortune on the supply chain
>>80762764
>C02 the cause of climate change
Are you fucking new?
I trust Trump because he seems like he knows his shit. Climate change is not real.
>>80763253
Worth the risk of Fukushimas happening?
>>80759954
There has never been a time when the Earth's climate WASN'T changing. And yes, this includes the pre-industrial age.
The real point is that paying a tax is not going to do anything to alter the natural course of this planet's climate. It's all a globalist money-grab.
>>80759291
You're right OP. We should elect someone who believes in climate change and is willing to invade country after country that doesn't implement our climate saving plan.
True, but Trump is also proNuclear and that's what you need to slow the onset of GW.
Nuclear Power plants and Solar, that's how you do it.
Shillary will doom us all regardless of what she believes because she's rich enough to not be affected, and her BFFs in the oil industry are telling her to endorse more drilling.
>>80760058
#triggered
>>80759291
I don't care about climate change, let the climate change.
>>80762403
>i will believe in climate change if you solve it without doing anything to solve it
whitopia confirmed
>>80760333
>>80759291
You probably used GIMP to make this shitty meme right? Come back when you learn kiddo, but guess your Ubuntu netbook won't do any good anyway
>>80761013
It's not just about seafood though, when the coral reefs go it will fuck the weather.
Also jellyfish out the fucking ass, so many god damn jellyfish
I'm just saying, the ocean accounts for the majority of oxygen on earth, if we do anything to fuck over plaktonic photosynthesis we're royally fucked.
Of course, this isn't solely an American concept, every country should realize it, especially "manmade deserts" china.
>>80763361
Yes, because Fukushima was a freak accident resulting from an insane natural disaster that killed millions, and the actual damage caused was basically nothing. Area is safe today, and they even give guided tours of the plant.
>>80759291
Bernie Sanders has SOLD OUT to Hillary and the Globalists! Don't waste your vote, VOTE TRUMP!
Proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x4Htj5gfGs
>>80763919
Based Japanese. Nuclear energy is the best energy.
>>80759291
>a vote to end all life on earth.
yeah I'm sure those carbon taxes are saving everyone
>>80759291
I bet he doesn't believe in the holocaust, either.
Did you know?
90% of scientists believe in the holocaust.
Trump is so ignorant
>>80763919
I should also note not one person died as a result of Fukushima.
Media spread bullshit about the incident because "sponsored content" from oil companies.
>>80759291
Reminder that you're an ignorant faggot that thinks the President somehow has control over the Senate and the EPA.
Reminder that you're an ignorant faggot that doesn't know the cities with the worst carbon footprint in this country only produce 1/10th of the carbon emissions of the worst cities in China.
>>80764035
Solar is technically the best, but you need energy to make those panels. Nuclear is the best way to do so.
World with electric cars, running on nuclear and solar, till fusion comes along is a world we wanna live in.
France is the best example. I think it was 80% of their energy is nuclear.
And it's not just environmental, but also geopolitical. Nuclear + Solar = the collapse of the corrupt Saudi ruling houses, and the end of ISIS funding.
In other words, beating our enemies by starving them, and making the world a better and more peaceful place for everyone.
>>80760615
>The more indoctrinated you are
>>80764431
Solar isn't the best with out current technology, to meet the energy demand you'd need an immense number of panels containing enivronmentally damaged chemicals to take up a deserts worth of surface area.
Solar panels simply aren't efficient in drawing power from the sun, they're more effective for personal use to cut power costs.
>>80764431
Solar energy is shit though, you're better with eolic and geotermic, since they are much cheaper on the long run
>>80764752
>>80764678
Both of these anons are correct
>>80760327
>and is an existential threat to humanity.
Which every scientist doesn't believe.
>>80760327
>every scientist
Tip: Climatologists are meteorologists in lab coats.
What if there was a minimum wage paying job for people to spend all day cranking a turbine
Wouldn't that be the most environmentally efficient source of power?
>>80759291
Fuck off liberal shill
>>80764431
What if an anti nuke shill brings up the topic of what to do with the waste the nuclear energy plants make?
As if we could power nations with solar and wind alone.
>>80763082
>alternative sources of energy that are much more efficient like nuclear energy don't exist
Yeah, ok person living under a rock.
>>80763260
>implying it isn't
>This is the most important long-lived "forcing" of climate change.
http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
Are you scientifically illiterate?
>>80765912
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(reactor)
>>80759291
are you sure you mean climate change and not the other 5 labels libtards gave it? what will you call it next week?
>>80764678
>>80764752
With our current panels, the area necessary to power the whole planet on just solar is equal to the area off Spain, ofc we don't gave the resources for that many panels.
Panels are recyclable, and harmless to the environment, and obviously, if more money is put into the RnD of solar tech, it will improve, making them cheaper and more efficient.
There are drawbacks, but it is the best.
Aeolic is good, but it suffers from more limitations than solar as the wind is unpredictable.
Geothermic is only good for heating, not generating electricity, and it's very costly.
All three are great, and should be used in tandem, but solar is the clear better option, as it's yet to reach it's peak, whereas Aeolic has already hit max potential due to 100% efficiency in conversion, and geothermal bwing more costly and destructive than solar. Solar is also portable, making it adept for vehicles.
The drawback of all 3 is storage, though. That's a problem than needs to be solved, and fast. In the meantime, Nuclear Fission is the next best option. It is possible to go nearly full Nuclear, thanks to the new Breeder Reactors, people just need to get over their phobia and educate themselves.
Fossil fuels are out of the question, and need to be totally phased out ASAP.
>>80765912
Breeder reactors, look them up.
>>80764122
>Reminder that you're an ignorant faggot that thinks the President somehow has control over the Senate and the EPA.
Reminder your an ignorant faggot who doesn't know the president picks who heads the EPA and other cabinet positions, including the US Supreme Court.
>>80759291
Oy vey.
Be a good goyim and believe in the things you are not allowed to disprove or get scientific funding to be critical of!
>>80767473
The President nominates the Administrator and the SENATE holds a fucking vote you dumb fuck.
>>80759291
Oy vey!
Believe.
>>80767956
>The President nominates the Administrator and the SENATE holds a fucking vote you dumb fuck.
So? The president gets his nominees regardless who controls the senate, unless they are like a murder or something.
>>80768131
So write your fucking Congressman and stop pretending like the President has dictatorial powers over the whole fucking country and everything that happens in it.
>>80767765
Bro, Global warming as a result of human activity is a real thing. I support Trump too, but this is the one thing I fully disagree with him on.
There is plenty of evidence to support this fact that you can look up online. There is evidence from all sides in fact, s lot of which has misinformation that's propagated on both sides. Since both sides have private economic interests. But I would encourage you to look for the most objective scientific studies, and draw your own conclusions.
A good start is Wait But Why's post on Tesla, since all his sources are cited, and you can begin digging from there, but don't be absurd, it's legit. We can't continue to burn fossil fuels like this much longer. Nuclear is the best option for now.
>>80759954
The climates always changing retard
>>80759291
pay us carbon taxes goyim
that'll fix everything
>>80768682
It always changes, but there is evidence of an increased change the CO2 levels of the atmosphere since the industrial revolution, which also coincides with a steady change in average temperate starting at the same time.
It's not as simple as, the climates always change, a change in climate is always caused by something. Read up more on the topic as you're oversimplifying a very nuanced point.
>>80769028
ignore for a moment solar cycles, ignore that Earth isn't the only planet experiencing warming, ignore the anti-science dogma in government funded academia that fires researchers that find data contrary to the narrative, ignore the climitegate scandal and fudging of data, ignore the calls for carbon tax scheme to usher in Neo-Feudalism
>>80759374
I laughed my ass off and then realised there are people who are genuinely this far in to the cuckspiracy and believe shit like this.
>>80769336
You seem to think simple shit like solar cycles and other planets warming haven't been taken into consideration for climate modelling.
For everything else, proof or it didn't happen.
>>80759291
Ah yes of couse because if a single American president doesn't give a shit about climate change for 4-8 years the whole world will go to shit.
What has obama done to fix climate change that's actually made a considerable difference?
>>80770845
>the whole world will go to shit.
Do you know how much energy and food the USA consumes on average?
>>80770360
Proof or the consideration for climate modeling didn't happen.
>>80759291
Not believing in climate change doesn't make you anti environment. You can protect and improve society without buying into the carbon tax world ending tank your economy while china does nothing bullshit that the ipcca peddles for unknown reasons.
>>80770947
Less than china.
>>80769336
Ignore the fact that there is evidence of increased carbon levels in the atmosphere.
Are you telling me that dozens of private organizations around the world and of different nationalities are funded by the US gov that wants to impose a carbon t ax?
Use your head dude. The riches and most powerful people in the world life in the Middle East. The same people Obama kisses ass to. The Bildaberg group is composed of Halliburton, Rockefeller and other oil companies.
Qui Bono dude? Who is in control here, and who wants to maintain the status quo. Who has more money to spend on red herrings?
Nuclear and solar companies who also gotta spend it on RnD? Or the massive oil companies that have funded wars, and control the world?
Who loses everything if we get electric cars? Who loses everything if the status quo is changed?
You're buying into red herrings funded by oil companies. Use your head dude. Climate change is real, and the elite don't give s fuck as they're rich enough to be unaffected by it. The best way for them to secure a future for their children is by leaving them an economic legacy. They will be OK in the end if the world goes to shit, but people like you and me will suffer the consequences.
>>80770978
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/rind_03/
>>80759291
>all life on earth
This planet would have to get disintegrated by the sun in order for that statement to be true.
>>80770978
Read all of this and its citations:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html
Especially part 1. Pay close attention to the graphs and scientific data. There are records in the icebergs that date back 1000s of years. Records of the carbon levels found in the air.
You can't deny peer reviewed scientific data dude.
>>80771267
>Less than china.
China is acutely doing stuff about climate change homofaggot.
>>80771267
Trump is trying to remove pretty much the entire EPA so that you can compete with china's pollution don't you worry about that. You seem to forget that china is also leading the world in green energy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_China
>>80771619
There have been 6 mass extinctions on this planet. One was caused by excess CO2 caused by a specific bacteria. It was the first one.
It won't kill all, but all the mass extinctions have killed at least 90% of life.
Needless to say, it COULD kill humans. But that's speculation. And it's a matter of heated debate among the scientific community.
We don't know the consequences of it, or how dire it could be. All we know is that climate change as a result of human activity is real.
Idk about you, but Id rather not gamble to find out who was right.
>>80771400
>>80771735
The problem with all climate models, as any statistician will tell you, is that there isn't enough real data. Everything is an estimate based on assumptions. Nobody has proven anything past a correlation between co2 and global temperature. Statistical models are physically incapable of addressing causation. Controlled experiments are MANDATORY for statements about causation, but every single climate shill says there isn't enough time and we'll all be dead by then.
Gunboat diplomacy is always a mistake.
>>80772105
I have no plans on bringing a child into this world and I will be dead for 1000+ years before that happens. IDGAF
fuck Trump
fuck the white trash of /pol/
Can't wait til november you losers..
>>80769336
>oil and coalplants are replaced with nuclear/new reneweable means of transferring energy
>alternatives to fossil fuel become widespread
>people stop driving cars which spew out toxins
>meat industry is toned down to a more manageable and clean level
>air everywhere is fresh and breathable
>it turns out that all the scientists were wrong and climate change was in fact not caused by humans
>"did we just make the world a better place for no reason? this is an outrage"
Horror
>>80771967
The president's power isn't absolute. Checks and balances and all that.
>>80771827
Debatable. They're ruining their own environment to try to catch up with the West economically.
To them it's a proven method, because it's working fantastically and it's worth the sacrifice to them.
>>80759291
planet shlmanet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfGMYdalClU
I'm fucking sick of seeing these climate change memes everywhere. Instead of leftist shitposting, /pol/ sould muster the last of it's brain cells to spread the truth on climate change while looking like moderate lefts. We need to leak more onto the Internet without going too all out.
>>80772313
I personally do, since the effects will be felt this century, and our generation could live to be at least 120 maybe a lot more.
I personally do care about the survival of our race, as I wanna see us take to the stars. It's people like you that are fucking it up for the rest of us. This selfish, me first, I don't care about anyone else attitude. You're no different from the kikes ruling the world.
You should be ashamed of calling yourself "red pulled" as you actually know fuck all, and bear little responsibility for the little you do know, and the life you have. If you're gonna live only to benefit your insignificant life, the please kill yourself you filthy parasite.
>>80772825
Christ, that shit was stupid.
>>80773014
the world should be destroyed if white supremacy cant be secured.
i welcome the poison sky, the dying oceans and melting icecaps
>>80759291
Thats a good thing friendo. Maybe it will push us into space.
>>80772937
Moderate leftist who supports Trump here, give me this "red pill" you claim. As I've done extensive research on the matter and believe your full of shit.
Learn to think for yourself, and outside your comfortable narratives.
Needless to say, I'll listen to your info with an open mind.
>>80773427
Look man, I think Hitler memes are funny too, but you're taking this shit too far.
look upon your future.
https://youtu.be/wVY1sAKSIzk?t=18m
this cannot be changed. accept it.
>>80773736
this is the future you chose. you will die on this rock.
https://youtu.be/wVY1sAKSIzk?t=18m
>>80766188
>alternative sources of energy that are much more efficient like nuclear energy don't exist
Too bad every leftist party, including hernie sanders and jew stein of the green party OPPOSE nuclear energy because "it's dangerous to the community!!!!".
Face it, leftists are just another tool of the corporate elite to shove government intervention down our throats. Do you even know how solar panels are made? Do you know how much steel and transportation is needed to get a wind turbine running?
reminder that volcanic eruptions produce more greenhouse gasses than humans ever could even if the entire world was like china on steroids
if climate change is real, it's not because of us. it's fucking nature.
regardless, neither you nor your children will have to deal with the serious effects of climate change, so who the fuck cares? do you think you're going to reincarnate or something?
>>80772400
>meat industry is toned down to a more manageable and clean level
Good luck telling that to the 1.6 billion chinese people who love eating pork every fucking day, and 1.5 billion muslims who eat every OTHER meat.
>It's for the earth!! Can't you see???
>他妈的关é—
>شاذ جنسيا
>>80774129
>if climate change is real, it's not because of us. it's fucking nature.
hurrr durrr i like breathing lead in the air
more pollution! pls make the rivers flammable Koch brotehrs
>>80774103
Politics in general are fucked right now. It's the same issue with GMOs, science has practically proven they're safe but all political parties are afraid of them because the media told them to be. I wish technocracy existed outside of the theoretical world, I would absolutely move to a country based on that.
>>80772825
Alpha as fuck to bh. The comments gave me cancer aids though.
>>80774382
Indeed
>>80774129
>I have never heard of the carbon cycle and like drowning in Rockefeller funded propaganda
>>80774103
Holy shit dude, it's not about left or right, what the fuck is wrong with you and your party loyalty? The world isn't black and white.
Yes, all the leftist fucktards are morons who eat bullshit antiNuclear propaganda, but that is no reason to deny climate change and start going all out on fossil fuels.
Corrupt liberal politicians who buy into private interests does not discredit the whole global warming narrative, and years of peer reviewed research into the matter.
The solution is electric cars + nuclear energy until other options are more viable, no questions asked.
Holy fuck /pol/ learn to think for yourself.
You're either a strict right wing conservative, or you're wrong here. Despite the fact that extremes are bad, and both the left and the right are corrupt, and full of incompetent fucktards.
>>80759954
>If I say climate change is man made I can instill yet another guilt complex
>>80765346
Only if energy produced is more valuable than the worker's salary.
>>80775499
>Holy shit dude, it's not about left or right, what the fuck is wrong with you and your party loyalty? The world isn't black and white.
Your reading comprehensions is complete shit. Please re-read this line.
>leftists are just another tool of the corporate elite
>ANOTHER tool
Of course republicans and democrats are the same shit. I wouldn't vote R ever unless it's Trump. He's not even that conservative compared to Cruz or Rubio.
>The solution is electric cars + nuclear energy
And of course you fail to mention how electric cars are made, including those batteries. Batteries which are made from POISONOUS METALS that seep into the earth during all stages of that battery's life (production, shipment, usage and disposal). In addition, battery technology still has 30+ years before it will reach the base efficiency of internal combustion engines, and that's the hopeful side.
Your actual best bet is to realize that the best incentive for "green" technology is for condensing the population into Tokyo-level urban density for maximum public transportation, and to exterminate the 1.5 billion niggers on Africa who contribute far more pollution to the Earth than 500+ million smart whites.
>>80759291
Climate change is bullshit though. Who the fuck cares.
>>80765346
Run the numbers on energy production. You wouldn't even match aeolic, which is the weakest, with man labor.
It's literally more efficient to put a water wheel by a river and letting that generate electricity.
24 hours, free, no breaks, etc...
However, why use a water wheel, when you can build a dam and generate 1000x more energy? But why stop at a Dam, and instead just makes a Nuclear power plant and have it spin dozens of turbines to have it generate 1 million x more energy than the dam.
Oh yeah, because Nuclear energy is bad because the Rockefeller media told me so.
They also told me climate change is lie funded by the government.
>>80775652
And what does this guilt complex accomplish?
Tbh, I'm more concerned about the quality of the air in cities than any guilt. Esp considering I live in one.
>>80769663
>Lefty/pol/
>>80759291
Climate change shills need to fuck off
>>80759547
So you must have a bunch of those predictions saved. Care to share any of them with the rest of us? I'd love to shove it down their throats next time they claim something is going to happen.
>>80776425
The guilt complex makes people buy into phony or simply unworkable ideas and companies, ones that don't perform their goal and simply siphon money
Nuclear energy makes sense but development of it has been strangely slow, and besides it wont fix the global warming issue because global warming is a natural occurrence.
>>80759291
nobody cares
>>80776692
> graph ends at 95 years before present, where present is 1950 AD
>1855 AD
>before the industrial revolution could pump out tons of CO2 to have an effect
Okay tinfoil hat.
>>80776246
>corporate tool
For whom, which corporations? You mean the massive ones with investments in the middle east who wanna stomp out nuclear energy and electric cars because in interferes with their oil investments and the petroleum dollar?
You mean THOSE corporations?
I'm not american, so I can't vote, but I agree, only reason I support Trump is cause he's an outside man with the right ideas, and the conviction to pull it off. Anyone standing up to big corp is worth my support.
>car batteries are poisonous
Except Lithium Magnese ions only have a slight toxicity, less than that of Mercury which is found in various products, and isn't harmful when contained within the battery and fused with Lithium Cobalt.
These materials can be found and mined in natural deposits, and are recycled, preventing damage to the ecosystem, and lowering the costs of manufacture, as lithium is a costly mineral.
Fyi, despite being toxic, lithium is ingested by patients with bipolar disorder to regulate their emotions, and they do just fone.
Don't just spit buzzwords you hear, learn what people actually mean when they say "toxic" you can touch it and still be fine.
Or are you one of those people who freak out about the radioactivity of magnetic Thorium deposits along certain California coastlines lying out in the open. Yeah, that black sand? That's thorium, it's radioactive, but it won't kill you in such small concentrations, you'll be fine.
>battery technology
Except Tesla cars are efficient enough for daily commute and long trips, and with superchargers and wireless charge road segments which recharge your car for free, it becomes a non issue.
With the Model 3 (was it?) electric cars are officially more viable than gas cars.
Chevy, Mercedes, and various other companies are underway making equally viable electric cars.
>>80776246
Pt. 2 cause the stupid character limit
>the last bit
I mostly agree actually. Though I wouldn't make it racial. I agree that the population is too high, and like with the black plague, a purge is necesary, but it should be nondiscriminatory, like nature always is. Especially since there are plenty of stupid among the whites as well. Honest, don't give a fuck about race. Just kill all the dumb people.
As for population density and travel, you mean like the Hyperloop?
>>80778574
Petrodollar**
Fuck smartphones
>>80759954
the climate changes, with or without us.
why worry about something you have no control over?
>>80759291
I'm unironicly voting for trump because I want World War 3 to break out.
He has zero restraint or filter and holds grudges. He resorts to childish name calling, is dangerously unqualified and is probably mentally ill.
Drop a nuke on me and end my suffering. God the relief. And before you say "you faggot the president has to go through congress" he doesn't. Look at Vietnam
>>80759542
Don't worry. That ice age all the (((climate scientists))) were predicting a few years ago will bring the temperatures down again.
>>80776933
Development is slow because of lobbies, private interests, and public scare mongering with shit like Chernobyl and Fukushima, where the masses are uninformed of the facts, and are led to believe nuclear energy is the devil, but fossil fuels a necessary evil we can live with.
Also, while climate change is s natural occurance, global warming as a result of human activity is legit.
See graph.
>>80776692
You too.
>>80776692
>>80776933
More graphs for the people in denial.
>>80779341
>>80779085
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
You mean this? Educate yourself.
>>80779260
>>80779341
>>80779412
Refute these please.
I've already posted a link to the article explaining all this, and providing cited sources, but it appears most of you haven't bothered to read it.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/06/how-tesla-will-change-your-life.html
Here it is again, feel free to follow the sources and form your own opinions. If you're gonna disagree, then please disprove the evidence provided.
And no, funded by the US gov doesn't cut it, as many of these aren't even in the US.
![Giant_prominence_on_the_sun_erupted[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AvedW7f.jpg "Giant_prominence_on_the_sun_erupted[1].jpg")
Ask any climate alarmist what the largest driver of climate change is on this planet.
If their answer is anything other than pic related tell them they're being played as useful idiots for socio-economic gain of the elites in power who do not want to see the developing world develop and instead see them as a source of cheap labor and resources that keep dumb fucking hippies placated with iphones and other consumer bullshit that doesn't matter.
Then inform them if they're done being bigots and racists, that if they had any sort of compassion for the people of the developing world they would allow them to pursue their own industrial and economic goals free from the constraints of carbon taxes and environmental restrictions placed upon them by the developed world.
>>80780541
You DO realize that without greenhouse gasses the global average temperature would be -18C or 0F? Life on Earth wouldn't exist, all water would be frozen.
http://ase.tufts.edu/cosmos/view_chapter.asp?id=21&
>>80779758
It is highly possible that these results were manufactured or paid to be so by people siphoning money from the companies, the same could be said for the graphs we show here but the issue with not being an actual scientist is that you don't know what goes on in those labs.
The kicker is that the effects of the graphs we show here can be readily observed by all, the commonly observable effects of global warming are less than negligible
>>80780541
It's not about the developing world, holy fuck are you dumb.
Look, for starters
>>80779260
>>80779341
>>80779412
>>80779758
It's not the sun dude, it's human activity. Buy honest, at the pace we're going, they're fucked anyway one way or another, so fuck em. They're superstitious cunts anyway. Muslims most if them.
It's about the fact that I don't wanna choke on smog and tailpipe emissions like pic fucking related, and then suffer the environmental consequences from natural disasters and droughts.
We share this planet you fuck. If one nation fucks it up, they fuck it up for all of us. What the fuck do you think will happen when rivers and lakes start drying up? How will you irrigate crops? Desalination? And what will that do to the cost of FUCKING EVERYTHING? You're voting Trump as a working class millennial like the rest of us, who promises more jobs, but do you really think you'll be able to afford food and water say.... 20 to 30 years from now?
But look, let's leave the environmental bullshit aside, and look at it geopolitically.
What is the one nation who has pretty much fucked us all?
Saudi Arabia
Who are the people in charge of this country and where does their money come from?
What funds international terrorism?
Why do western politicians kiss ass to the Saudi Princes?
What do the Bildabergs and other corrupt multinationals have their investments in?
The answer to all this is FUCKING OIL
You wanna stick it to the establishment, knock down the Saudi houses, and end the funding for international terrorism, essentially destroying ISIS and ending conflict in the Middle East in one fell swoop?
Well, then how about starting with ending the West's dependancy on fossil fuels?
Again Nuclear and EVs, the tech is here already.
And before you cry "it's not possible": France.
They're oil imports are only for transport. And with the EV, they'll soon be fully independent, as, unlike idiot Germany, they're building more plants.
wtf I hate climate change now
I totally believe that climate change is real but we have probably gone past the point where there is anything we can do about it. I think were all kinda fucked and life will just get shittier in a few decades when some of the bigger consequences hit us.
>>80782571
>but we have probably gone past the point where there is anything we can do about it.
No we haven't. Not for at least 10-20 years. NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO DO SOMETHING TO SAVE OUR HUMAN RACE
>>80782746
Not going to happen duder.
>>80782571
You're a fucking cuck.
>Well my wife is going to fuck a black guy so what can I do, it's already going to happen so I may as well lie down and take it, maybe if I'm faithful to her I'll be able to watch. I just don't want to hurt my poor darling Exxon.
>>80764752
Geothermal is pretty sweet, but it's not technically renewable.
It's an excellent measure in the meantime, though, until solar and others are more efficient.
>>80782970
>Comparing a complete shift from human reliance and infrastructure change to my wife getting BBCed
You should probably take a break from the internet for a bit. Even if I were to have 0 impact on the environment myself, that will do fuck all when billions of others still harm it daily.
>>80781545
Except these are all labs hailing from various nations, and most independent, and they all agree.
Dude, it's the tobacco business all over again, oil companies are paying "scientists" to misinform and spread confusion buying them more time.
Peer, reviewed, studies.
These are career scientists putting their reputations on the line, publishing lengthy scientific reports you yourself can read if you can stomach the jargon.
Not tinfoil hat theories spread by "scientists" in order to misinform and confuse the masses.
Remember when tobacco was good for your health according to "doctors"?
When looking at contrasting studies always think "qui Bono?" who does this benefit?
Ffs, Rockefeller, who is part of the Bildaberg group and has a strong grip on the media is a FUCKING OIL COMPANY!! What do you think dude? You're buying into Jewish propaganda, use your head man. Spread lies and misinformation and the truth gets mingled with the lies. Peer reviewed studies, it's how science works, and always has worked.
Analyses from carbon dating glaciers, you can freely go to these places and sample the data yourself if you have knowhow and are REALLY that skeptical.
Do you really think that Nuclear companies who are heavily slammed by the media are pushing pro global warming propaganda? Or could it possibly be the massively rich Bildaberg group with tis to the media?
Yes, green peace and other fucks also spread lies, but the facts are in plain sight if you know where to look.
>>80759374
You do realize that w/o the Ozone, all whites are going to cook from the inside out from the unfiltered UV radiation right?
>>80782571
We have around 30 years to go full clean before the tipping point.
Nuclear + EVs now, and don't believe the lies spread by the oil corporations and the filthy Saudis.
>>80783320
While I don't fault your way of thinking, it is the green movement that is massively pushed by the media, just not nuclear energy.
I do believe that green energy is a good idea, but we really have to wait until it is as efficient and cost effective as fossil fuel.
>>80766188
Every piece of historical data shows that temperature changes precede C02 gains/losses.
We are in uncharted territory.
Methane is by a wide margin much more active in the greenhouse effect than C02. Yet no mention of cow genocide to combat climate change.
Why would that be? Oh right because they still have no fucking clue.
It is much more accurate to measure our temperature based on solar activity and our orbit.
Try harder and remember, if they are going to try and tax you for something without conclusive proof they are fucking lying to you.
>>80771051
The climate is constantly changing. It has always changed.
People who are alarmed by this fact are retarded.
>>80782746
I genuinely hope your mother gets cancer in the next few weeks and spends the follow four years in a slow, miserable crawl to death. On her death bed, I want her to say "Son, you are a disappointment" to you
>>80783432
Nigger, the ozone layer isn't even an issue anymore. That was caused by aerosol sprays, not global warming.
>>80783967
http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm
https://www.skepticalscience.com/methane-and-global-warming.htm
https://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming-advanced.htm
Also
>they still have no fucking clue
So I assume that means we should believe you by default, a literally who.
>>80783967
I can't believe people could possibly be this dumb.
You have factual evidence presented to you, and you still play dumb because "the guvment wants to tax me."
You wanna know bullshit corrupt taxes? Here in Spain, the government is taxing its citizens extra for buying an EV, Solar Panels, or the Tesla Powerwall. Because, "we owe money to the electric companies, and if you break from the system you're costing everyone money."
In other words, "I got offered a well paid position in this electric company once I leave office if I pass this law, so get fucked citizens. "
Meanwhile in the rest if Europe and the US governments are subsidizing the costs of investing into solar or EVs by giving people Cashback to incentivize said purchases.
THAT'S corruption for you.
You could literally power your house and car for free, but the Spanish government says you get fucked and pay extra taxes if you try.
>>80783915
Nuclear energy is not pushed by the media AT ALL.
It's the most slammed by nearly all entities.
And tHe media isn't one body, a lot of it is pro fossils still, and heavily bash EVs, while still having addsxfor brand new gas cars.
I agree on the last bit, but Nuclear is available now, Abd able to be mass scales to fully replace fossil fuels while green energies improve. Switch cars to EVs, and the next 30 years are clean.
Also, I should note that NONE of the research I posted about ITT is ever talked about in tge media, because it's too nuanced for your average dummy to 'get it' and the media hates nuanced points.
It's because it's nuanced why you have people ITT assuming ALL climate change is natural, despite there being evidence of a spIke in CO2 and temperatures since the 1800s as a result of human activity.
>>80784123
The climate doesn't just change due to magical powers anon, there's a reason every time the climate changes. Nobody's turning the thermostat up or down and to change climate.
>>80784347
when the same thing happens to your loved one
i want you remember that post you made
>>80785306
Thank you!
At least someone gets it.
>>80759885
"We'll reach it within the next decade or so!"- climate change scientists every decade
>>80784347
Someone posts an opinion you disagree with and you wish death on their loved ones?
You've GOT to have Aspergers. I dated an Aspie once, and she'd flip out and say shit like that all the time.
>>80759291
Good. Fuck this planet and every despicable creature on it.
>>80782746
The human race is not worth saving.
>>80785567
If that happened to my loved one it would have absolutely nothing to do with that post, so I don't see how that was remotely relevant. Are you autistic?
>>80785849
Where are you getting that I said that because I disagree with him? I think you might be an aspie and you're just projecting or something.
>>80785818
Except no>>80779758
The projected date has ALWAYS been around 2050, you're just parting what you hear in the mainstream, rather than looking at the data yourself.
It's ironic, cause you get mad when the media misrepresents Trump and what he stands for, but youre perfectly fine with eating shit fed to you by the media without looking at the facts yourself so long as it fits your narrative.
I can't believe you idiots have the gall to say you're "redpilled"
Bring red pulled means learning to think for yourself while questioning mainstream narratives in order to arrive at the truth of things.
Not "trading one insane narrative of one ideology, for another insane narrative of the opposite ideology."
Christ, fucking educate yourselves. It's your fucking DUTY as human beings to learn and spread the TRUTH.
>>80786352
Where on God's green earth does the media shill against climate change? Jesus you are fucking stupid. I know it crosses your mind every now and then and I'm saying do it, go for it. Kill yourself. End it now.
>>80785299
>Just not nuclear energy
>not nuclear energy
>NOT NUCLEAR ENERGY
I respect your enthusiasm but I can not take you seriously if you do not have basic reading comprehension
>>80786166
Except you cclearly posted that because you didn't like what he said.
You totally have Aspergers. Get that checked out dude. I'm not even trying to be mean or anything, I'm being serious, you shouldn't live a life where you're unaware if your own mental illness.
>>80785879
>FTGE
For the underage retards lurking on 4chan who are too afraid to let their mommies know they use the word "fuck" recreationally.
Fuck off.
>>80786550
>super srs diagnosis on 4chan
Seriously, why don't you just lurk more instead of posting? If you're going to sperg out this much and assume no one is ever being facetious or just plain shitposting you are going to have a bad time here.
>>80759885
>>80759954
Fucking fagsyour 97% consensus mem is based on blatant lies
>>80760327
Burden of proof, faggot, name them, and name their studies.
>>80786441
Hmm
http://www.greenamerica.org/programs/climate/dirtyenergy/nuclear.cfm
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/8920048.html
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2015/02/09/top-10-global-warming-lies-that-may-shock-you/#2d116f7b23b9
Plenty of examples of media outlets shilling AGAINST climate change and nuclear energy.
I could pull up a lot more. Just Google "why climate change is fake" or "why nuclear is bad" And you get hundreds of articles from Forbes, Greenpeace, HuffPost, WashPost, CNN, Fox, etc...
>>80786441
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_coverage_of_climate_change
Learn to google shit, seriously.
>>80786670
Why don't you get your assburgers checked out buddy. It'll make you more likeable I promise.
You might even learn to talk to girls and get yourself a girlfriend.
>>80779067
>i want ww3
>not voting for war-hawk hillary
>>80786891
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change
But it would be easier to name the specific scientists against it, as it would be a lot shorter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming
>implying climate change will have a significant affect on human life
>implying HillShill will do anything about it anyway
>>80786533
Sorry dude, it's 3am, I missed that.
Also
>>80787304
>>80787390
Greenpeace shilling anti Nuclear, and media outlets shilling that climate change is a hoax.
The narrative doesn't push climate change as much as you claim. In fact, you're buying INTO the narrative with your 4chan charts. Literally spreading the lies the kikes want you to spread for them.
Who fucking cares. It's not like America itself can just fix man induced climate change even if it does exist. The only reason politicians even talk about the subject is to pander to retarded dude save the planet teenagers and the like. It's a complete non-issue to any intelligent individual.
>>80787831
Hillshill will worsen Climate change for sure. Trump might not believe in climate change but he's pro nuclear, and believes renewable energy, alongside AI and 3D printing, are good investments for the US. So, I don't care what he believes, so long as he does the right thing.
And yes, it WILL take effect during this century if nothing changes. Read the thread
>>80759885
Faggot
We are at 400 ppm CO2 now, the earth was covered in lush forests and jungles when CO2 was at 2000 ppm and much higher average temperatures.
To reach 2000 ppm we will need to keep burning fossil fuels at the current rate for atleast another 400 years adn even then we would have just reached optimum CO2 levels for plants.
During the Cambrian era when their was an explosion in plant and animal life CO2 was at 7,000 ppm!
If the end of the world didn't happen at 7000 + ppm, WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT NOW?
>>80760741
You mean how each of the last 12 years has been the hottest year on record?
>>80787849
It's kinda hard to believe you as when I was in school all they would show is pro green energy and anti meat industry videos
>>80787946
Elaborate please.
>>80788148
>cambrian era
>only life that could exist was plants and athropods
Yeah, who cares? Fuck mammals.
>>80759291
>he believes in climate change
or
>he's a forum-sliding shill
either way you're a mega cück
>>80788229
Last I checked school isn't media. Schools are there to educate you while media companies want you to remain ignorantly bliss and buy their shit like a good little goy.
>>80788148
Except past a certain temperature you create a domino effect as water vapor is also a greenhouse gas, and with hot enough temps, you get an increased evaporation of ocean water which perpetuates more and more of this at an unstoppable rate. Temperatures continue to increase as more water vapor traps heat from the sun, which evaporates more water, etc... you'll still have oceans ofc, but many lakes and rivers would dry up, killing the crops.
And even if it rains a lot of the water remains in the sky as a greenhouse gas. Look at Venus as an extreme example of this.
How long till we get to Cambrian temps? Who knows. But the tipping point will come in a few decades if don't turn around, and at that point, nothing will really stop the domino effect, and immediately consequences will be felt, with more droughts, and more frequent and violent tropical storms.
You had lush forests during the Cambrian and Jurassic eras, cause the plants of those eras were adapted to those conditions. They wouldn't survive now, most of them, same as most plants and crops of now wouldn't survive under those conditions. Cambrian and Jurassic Temperate were too hot for Human life.
If we got to that point, most life on this plane would die out, and new life better fit for those conditions would take hold.
>>80788229
>what is anectodal evidence
Did you even read the /pol/ sticky.
I'm giving you concrete proof you can see for yourself, and a quick Google search will bring up hundreds of reports more.
What's there to "believe"?
>>80788297
I was stating the utmost extremese we can still go to without any of this shit happening:
>A vote for Trump is a vote to end all life on earth.
>You do realize that w/o the Ozone, all whites are going to cook from the inside out from the unfiltered UV radiation right?
Besides that is just when life started to explode and diversify. It doesn't mean that no mammals can survive.
Mammals will definitely be fine up to 3000ppm
It is literrally a 0.26% difference in total CO2 from what it is now.
CO2 increases this much when you are in a room ful of people breathing.
>>80788148
1,000-2,000 ppm Complaints of drowsiness and poor air.
2,000-5,000 ppm Headaches, sleepiness and stagnant, stale, stuffy air. Poor concentration, loss of attention, increased heart rate and slight nausea may also be present.
5,000+ Workplace exposure limit (as 8-hour TWA) in most jurisdictions.
>>80769663
you dont seriously believe that one day you will wake up and the whole planet will be under water because some ice melted, right?
>>80759291
>>80788148
But we're not plants...We're mammals...
>South African education
>>80759291
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>>80759291
> man made climate change reckt
https://next.ft.com/content/35145bee-9d38-11e0-997d-00144feabdc0#ixzz1RacNghPj
>>80789378
That whole bottom half is wrong.
And whatever survives into the future, we can be certain most of the current life, including humans, would go extinct due to how balanced the ecosystem is.
Crops die, killing various animals, and diminishing resources for humans, Abd so on and so on.
People are freaking out cause tge bees might die out, and how that'll fuck us. Now imagine if half the plants and animals we depend on for survival just go extinct. How would that affect Hunan life?
As I said earlier ITT, there have been SIX mass extinctions on this planet so far. The Cambrian one in fact being one of them. Do you really wanna perpetuate number 7?
>>80789101
If that domino effect did not happen at 7000 ppm with average temperatures almost double what it is now, WTF would it happen now?
>>80759291
You're trying but your candidate was a fucking cucked out Jew who took all your money and sold his campaign out to the globalists he was serving all along.
You got taken for a ride pal but hey, all of us here were taken on a similar ride at some point and we wound up here.
Welcome.
>>80759291
OP is a Jew. Prove me wrong.
>derp
>>80759291
>weather patterns
>end all life on earth
Which one of you normies bumped this shit?
Fucking learn to sage, newfags.
>>80789832
Lots of humans will surely die and that will be a good thing for the rest of the planet.
The human race needs culling.
Less humans = less resources required = more habitat for fauna and flora.
>>80789865
Expect it did happen, and we have archaeological evidence of it happening. Many times in fact.
>>80779341
>>80779260
>>80779412
>>80779758
>>80787726
>"scientific opinion"
>"opinion"
>wikipedia
Jesus christ you are delusional
>>80789282
anecdotal evidence from me, but of course I wasn't the only person in the education system now was I?
Picture of OP
>>80788784
Schools teach you to remain ignorant while media reinforce what the education system told you to beleive
90% of the comments in this chat are pro-Jewish.
Jews have infected /pol/ boys, this is a Jew propaganda thread
>>80790163
>most
ALL humans would die you dumb fuck. You depend on your ecosystem. This isn't culling. It's not even genocyde. It's fucking extinction unless we managed to put a self sustained colony on Mars before then. And good fucking luck with that.
>>80790154
>>80789801
>weather patterns
Try archaeological records and carbon data on icebergs.
Global warming is real, but it's not like the liberals are handling it in an effective way anyway. We should be putting research into better energy sources to make carbon fuels less efficient, plus it would eliminate the power of places like Saudi Arabia.
Coincidentally, Donald Trump is the only candidate between himself, Hillary and Bernie who is pro-nuclear energy. Bernie is adamantly against it.
Tell me again how you can be a pro-environment candidate when you're anti-nuclear?
THIS IS A PRO JEWISH THREAD.
STRAWMAN-FALLACY THREAD. SETTING IT UP ALT-RIGHT vs GLOBAL WARMER BELIEVERS.... Global warming issue is not in anyway related to /pol/ fuck off Jews.
>>80790252
>>80790389
And the media is saying climate change is a hoax. So looks like your school's education might have been telling you the truth while you denied it for.... god knows what reason, and provide no scientific data to back up your opinion, despite being given scientific data to contradict you.
>>80790250
God you're stupid.... did you flunk out of elementary school science?
>>80790220
No it did not.
Did the earth become like venus?
Did the ozone evaporate?
Was there an irreversable runaway feedback loop?
No
And we are talking about unrealistic extremes here not what is within the scope of our current reality.
We cannot create more CO2 by burning fossil fuels than what already existed in the atmosphere when the CO2 was absorbed.
>>80790593
Thank you, someone else fucking gets it. Please speak some goddamn reason into this idiot thread, I'm at the end of my patience. Utterly amazed people were this legit stupid.
>>80790543
No we would not all die dumbass.
It will be a gradual process which will take hundreds of years.
>>80790867
Ahhhhhh, you're so dumb. I can't keep going with this. It's like talking to a child. Jesus you're so fucking dumb.
Venus was an extreme example, and it has a very different atmospheric structure from Earth, Venus is mostly sulfur which is FAR more dense than any gas on earth. The Earth will NEVER become like Venus, ever, and if it ever did, it would become permanently uninhabitable as the atmospheric pressure alone would crush EVERYTHING.
AND YOUR IMAGE IS DUMB AND WRONG SAND STUPID!!!
ARGH
PLANTS DON'T BECOME OIL, THAT'S NOT HOW IT WORKS!!!
Plants and animals that became fossilized live by getting swallowed into tar pits during the Cambrian period make up our fossil fuels of today.
We're literally burning the Joules of plants that absorbed it the sun BILLIONS of years ago.
We're fucking done here dude. I'm not continuing this nonsense.
Read the article I posted by wait but why that I linked you to, learn something, and then we'll talk. But this is as far as I go.
>>80791042
Which would lead to human extinction!!
The first effects would be felt this century with droughts and storms. Yeah, South Africa? SA would be FUCKED dude.
From there you can't change it back. You're only hope is to leave the planet at that point.
And Mars. Mars has 1/3 the gravity of earth Abd will fucking kill you slowly.
>>80790819
I deny the assumption that it is man made and that we are responsible for killing teh enviorments, as said by other posters itt it is a natural occurrence.
besides, after green energy becomes viable by consumer demand (which will come when it is efficient) any man made effects will fade away.
>>80784569
>actually being this dense
>>80790250
Not an argument you fat fucking burger
>>80792095
No, there is a tipping point. And it won't go away past that point.
Past that point, humanity is fucked lest they leave the planet to a different star system in less than 300 years. Or if we migrate transhumans who can resist Martian conditions to Mars to carry the will of mankind.
Humans with augs aren't cheap, neither is a ticket to Mars, so only the super rich would survive. The richest 1 million people of Earth.
And no, it is manmade. Did you read the shit I posted? How do you deny archaeological data? Do you deny dinosaurs ever existed too?
This is a real person saying this?
No one on earth would really spend time to start this thread. Shill.
>>80792768
>Do you deny dinosaurs existed?
No because I can go and see their bones and touch them, and I can dig them up and sell them, you can't just go outside and go "Holy shit, global warming IS real!"
>>80791621
Tar pits have nothing to do with the chemical composition of fossil fuels you fucking moron.
Fossil fuels is litterally decomposed organic material (plants and animals) exposed to heat and pressure you fucking imbecile.
It is not billions of years ago retard.
And you are just stating the obvious regarding joules from sunlight. How does that contradict anything?
Plants use carbon dioxide and water + sunlight to create hydrocarbons which stores the energy.
When you burn fossil fuels it is these hydrocarbon bonds which are broken and then energy is released with hydrocarbon molecules recombining into their orginal states. CO2 + H2O
>>80793229
Except you can. Feel free to travel to your nearest glacier and measure and carbon date the carbon levels by era yourself.
>>80793229
You can go to Greenland and dig up ice cores and come to the same conclusion that climate change is real.
>>80793479
Have you done any of that, or are you just trusting what others say?
>>80785000
>http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm
The Simpleton Science Cucks are at it again. Never mind that cause must precede effect. Never mind that if CO2 increase "reinforced" temperature increase there would be a nonlinearity in the temperature data. But there isn't.
How can you take those paid shills seriously?
>nb4 we already discussed it.
No, you already desperately tried to make it go away by posting a stupid graph that doesn't show the direction of causality.
>>80759291
shll detected
Its not about climate change its about human caused climate change, the psyop worked well becaused most people hear climate change and associate it with human caused climate change which is not true at all
