Continued from >>80592741
We'll start with a picture of Houston (TX) and the topic of the thread is, is urban density desirable? Do you favour American or European urban design?
Feel free to post pics of what you see as an ideal urban area, or your own urban area.
Toronto.
>>80603885
>>80603793
Mountains are so beautiful. We don't have any in Australia and it's so sad.
Mexico City - "waves of human garbage".
If you guys started a USA based town, I would move, but probably seek minor leadership position mainly because I genuinely cannot trust you guys to make harmonious, balanced thoughts, although I do love doing things for fun, but seriously, you niggers would get cops here so quick (inb4 we get our own meme cops) arresting our asses for basic shit, on top of making horrible racial decisions (race is 100% cultural).
>>80604199
What do you mean a USA based town?
![20120710-234207[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ds8bwMj.jpg "20120710-234207[1].jpg")
I like around where I live in south NJ
european style
>>80604182
How does that city even smell? I imagine pretty fucking bad.
Any mexicans here who can report?
>>80604474
at least its not india.
much love mexibros
American Art Deco (oo any other style as long as it is only one) for the very center and get more and more European the more far away you are.
>Center: American. Super dense
>Inner ring: Paris-like architecture (7 story buildings with a lot of squares and places hidden from sight unless you go and search). Dense (in order to not waste energy in transporting resources(
>Outer ring: Germal-like rustic architecture (no more than three stories high, a lot of wood and with many threes and natural scenery). Not dense (but the inhabitants must be vell connected, help each other as a community and be partially self-sufficient)
It's better in >>>/n/
>>80604182
It's really sad because low income Mexicans keep reproducing like rabbits and making their improvised shitholes and spreading like cancer.
When I was in highschool, I could see the hills and mountains that gave a nice view to the school. Now a days just the tips are green, everything else is filled with shitty gray houses.
>>80604382
Nice, it has that recognizable american-european style though. Which is not necessarily bad at all.
>>80603952
Radial>Organic (not allways)>Gridiron>Loose grid>dogshit>Pajeet>abo>nigger>Suburban
>>80604474
>"Ciudad de México" or "Distrito Federal"
It is the biggest city by population outside Asia. So of course you are getting diferent smells. It goes from nothing, dust, swamp (Close to a water source), poverty and royalty (once you enter the onlt real castle in America; Castillo de Chapultepec).
Get someone who knows the city and go, it is actually very nice if you stay out of the metro (smells like Paris) or the very poor zones
![b73d2801af63693d95dfe147c493b1c7[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0lvUqts.jpg "b73d2801af63693d95dfe147c493b1c7[1].jpg")
>>80604872
its haddonfield nj, only a square mile, but it doesnt get better. No mosques, no temples, just churchs and great community.
>>80604336
Town based around freedom being the only desirable trait, with love underneath, and good to all, so a Constitutional place.
>>80604199
>Race is cultural
>I'm in charge or else
Liberals
>>80604382
That is both American and comfy, seriously, fuck whoever made sub-urbane design
>>80603277
>is urban density desirable?
pic related
>>80605692
The idea of the CBD is already dead in the US, and was dying in Australia before we decided to make it very difficult for companies to set up office and business parks on the fringe next to highways.
Now employment being in the CBD is used to justify urban densification and all sorts of degenerate ideologies.
>>80603277
london
this thread is relevant to my interests
>>80605335
>No mosques, no temples, just churchs and great community.
Nice, contrary to /pol/ memes europe has tons and tons of places like that. Pretty much every city that is not too big is what you describe.
>>80605838
>and was dying in Australia before we decided to make it very difficult for companies to set up office and business parks on the fringe next to highways.
tell that to the 1-hour-commute
i'm of the opinion that the CBD should be separated between multiple "satellite CBDs". it fucking pains me as a planner to step outside of my house and see the miles and miles of detached dwelling residential projects with not a fucking corner store in sight.
>>80605113
Radial? Have you been to Paris? That shit is hard to navigate and drive through. It's borderline 3rd world tier. Grid is always the best. Save the organic BS for old European cities for muh culture and history.
>>80606175
organic grid>pure grid desu
>>80605838
Are reasonable dense cities bad? The cost of moving resources (with current technology) is less than in bigger cities, people spend less in transportation and tend to walk more (and thus knowing the city better and growing more attached to it) and people are more intimate to each other because they live very close to each other and are more likely to use the same routes when walking. The magic word is balance; never go full American nor Asian
>>80605917
is that an airport on the beach?
>>80606133
Planners caused this mess in the first place. Land use restrictions in Australia have STOPPED employment decentralisation. They think it's a good thing that all good employment is in the CBD.
We need 1 acre lots as standard and all new employment to be on the fringe, not in the CBD.
>>80606233
IIRC, Berlin is pure grid right? At least city center?
Grid for city centers will always be the best. Anything else is just inefficient cancer. As far as residential, lose grid is fine.
>>80606282
dont have a proper road to connect the beach to the regular road grid, so it had to be concrete... made it look decent up close with rocks and some parking lots for the lazy visitors
>>80606245
it's not bad, really, but the issue is trying to get people to want to live in commieblocks. it's not an environment a lot of people want to raise a family in, but it's where older couples and young people like to live.
>>80606327
believe me, i know how fucked the system is. the trend here is to announce on a federal level that we're going to do one thing, then have the states to the complete fucking opposite.
>>80603277
Houston's urban sprawl is a necessity of the city's environment. The climate and atmosphere both make open natural spaces rest stops between miles of heat and death no one would want to wander in. We're essentially a quiltwork of indoor complexes, transport systems and suburban areas. And the sprawl only seems complicated if you don't live here. It's actually pretty easy to understand.
Houston is a City of three 'Downtowns'. A is for the official downtown, our big wheels, oil tycoons, official governmental and convention centers. B is the Medical District, doctors, physicians, cancer research is all done there. And finally, C, the Galleria and Williams Tower seen in the OP, where retail, enterprises, top hotels and visitors are located. In this triangulation lies the only bits of Houston worth a Damn, entitled D. This is where the Rich people live and make money for the rest of you ungrateful little shits, and is definitely worth a visit for all the excellent restaurants and museums there.
As we are a Southern city, we used to keep our animals in line and as such have conditioned them to take refuge in East Houston, labeled N for NigNogNook. This is where our degenerate hood people dwell, and while it would be a danger to cross, our city planners have been able to construct a port 50 miles inland and massive Freeways, as Niggers are both scared of heights AND water, to safely ferry proper business to and from the safe zones.
W stands for West, the great plains of westward oppurtunity for Whites (and some asians and jews) to galvanize upon. You'll find most people who can't afford proper Houston live here and dream of someday being worth enough of a damn to be part of Houston Proper. The stars are for the special cases of Nasa Nostalgics in the Southeast, and the Woodlands faggots who like traffic for some reason. Our Grand Parkway project (SH 99) is designed to connect the great West to the Woodlands, and (League City but Nasafags can't into change.)
>>80606500
The federal government has absolutely no power over urban planning, and that is a good thing. Centralisation will only fuck us up harder.
It must be emphasised, that the federal government cannot control spatial planning, and has no power whatsoever to do so. That is the domain of the states.
>pic related: Sal Luis PotosÃ, A Mexican city done right
Organic grind with some radial grid elements. Simple colonial infrastructure. Small houses. Many city squares and places for people to interact. Made with local recourses and everything they built must follow the style of the city.
>>80606500
>Commie blocks
Presentation is the key. If you let them live in a fary-tale like city then they will live there. Don't be lazy and make the place look pretty
What about emergency services? police? volunteer fire fighters with professional/paid paramedics?
>>80604606
This all day erry day
OP from last thread here. Rate my town.
>>80603952
Stick a nice big fat church in the middle of that Radial grid = perfection
>>80608766
*non-flashy protestant church
>>80608307
The town looks a bit sad but the landscape i amazing.
Town 5/10
Location 10/10
who here /hates shopping centres/
one got put in my town a few years ago and it almost completely destroyed all local downtown buisnesses
Density is more economically efficient. However, this must be balanced with individual preference for space and comfort, etc.
Ultimately, the free market should fix it.
>>80609671
You can literally only shop in big box stores and shopping malls and such in my town and most of Norway. Most norwegians avoid everything that isn't well known big brand stores.
>>80609752
how does the free market fix >>80609671 ?
serious question
>>80609671
I hate them but for a different reason than you.
They always start as nice shopping centers where small businesses (yes, a small because Walmart is everywhere) thrive. It's usually by the suburbs and mostly white.
Over time, nigs and spics start noticing that these white people are stupidly trusting their car in an open parking lot for hours, and start stealing them and property inside them.
Whites stop going because they're robbed, stores shut down because there's no income, and you get another abandoned mall to break into.
>>80609671
I do, they are a danger both for the locan economy and the culture of the town. And they usually only follow one style: American.
And having everything so centralized makes people not know the city, they get to their cars and completely forget about what's in the middle of their trip.
>>80610254
Local business was apparently outcompeted. The chain stores offered products and services that people wanted at a lower price than the local stores. The free market fixed it.
I can't stand city layouts at all, every time I go to cities I feel nauseous. Pic related is something like where I live. Small, tight-knit fishing community in quaint houses where everybody knows and relies on eachother.
>>80610687
>>80610571
do you see any negative repercussions of this?
hypothetically, is it fixed if an entire small town relies on chain stores for groceries and other goods, and in turn these stores provide the majority of employment?
is the situation 'fixed' if small businesses can't compete int heir startup phase, thus eliminating them entirely?
>>80603277
What plane is this? Looks like a modified canberra.
>>80610910
Yes, it is fixed. Small business can't compete with the large-scale production that chain stores have. That is, while they provide the same kind of products and services. Plenty of small businesses survive and even thrive, though, because they offer superior or different products and services.
I live in a small town, and there are McDonalds and Burger Kings, Walmarts and Targets, etc. But there are local stores, too. They offer superior/different products. Just can't compete with chain stores if you have a mediocre product.
>>80610687
Should also add that the only city I actually legitimately like is St. Johns, only because it manages to keep the flavor of a rural fishing town. The entire downtown is literally comprised of the same exact houses for the past 300-400 years, and they haven't been torn down for cultural reasons.
>>80611193
FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
>>80611501
is that a lego city?
>>80611428
People complain about chain stores driving out small local competition, but it's not the chain stores who did it, it's the people, voting with their feet.
>>80603277
>is urban density desirable?
Absolutely. Sprawl is ugly and ineffective. High density is good in the long term.
>>80612274
Pretty much a lego city. It's the only comfy city I've ever been to, everywhere else I've been is soulless, plastic hipster shit with no flavor. Most cities are a place where culture dies.
>>80612327
Ehhh... True
But chains are also in the blame
Wallmart commited fraud when entering Mexico, they are illegally here and destroying local brands because sweat shops in India are cheaper labor
>>80614517
If Mexicans didn't shop there, they'd go away.
>>80605917
Aesthetic as fuck
Los Angeles is based
>>80603277
The UK's cities are ugly as fuck because they're old as fuck
Wish we designed our cities 300 years ago instead of like 1000 years ago :x
>>80614903
Not a great pic.
>>80614593
Consumers are idiots tho. Every system that relies on the public falls because of that.
>>80614903
Los Angeles is either suburban shit, Chicano town or hipster crap.
>>80603277
People should be walking or cycling to work, or using clean and efficient public transport. The fact that so many people use cars to commute shows our infrastructure does not function properly.
Come take a virtual tour of literally the comfiest place on Earth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oOSKba9kQ0
>>80615393
Who here hates the extensive and unnecessary use of /o/?
Climate change real or not they polute the cities, take space in homes, take space in cities, make people slower, their parking lots are ugly af and could be unsed on something better, cause accidents to be even deathlier and give lazy fucks an excuse to remain fat
>>80615393
Cars are superior to all other modes of transport.
I pity you pleb faggots that have to commute otherwise than by car.
>>80615764
I forgot to add, Every family should have a gas car, but only use it when necessary. The last thing I want is people being dependent on state and state infrastructure for transportation and evacuation when the possibility of a happening is always there
>>80614903
>Los Angeles
>>80615393
>People should be walking or cycling to work,
Fuck off gommie. Cars is best transport ever from consumer point of view though it is expansive. Fact that people use cars shows that they are rich (they and their society). There is steady positive correlation around the world between cars per capita and available income.
Poorfags use public transportation.
Richfags use cars.
It is that simple.
>>80614903
Los Angeles is legit the ugliest city on the planet.
>>80614903
Los Angeles is mostly post-WWII suburbs with isolated pockets of density. Most of LA is decayed, sprawling wasteland. The "hotspots" of the city, like Downtown, Koreatown, Hollywood, Westside, Sherman Oaks, North Hollywood, etc, are pretty cool. But 80% of the city is bland.
This is the only acceptable living situation.
![n7CH4oDjdhA[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PBGNaDJ.jpg "n7CH4oDjdhA[1].jpg")
>>80603277
What I prefer eh?
>should be located in the country
>Trees, animals and all that shit all over the place
>the density of houses is like 2km a part from eachothers
>no niggers
>no sand niggers
no fucking swedes
>guns
>lots and lots of guns
Oh, and I would also like that there would be a brewery near by.
I would agree that most American cities suck. I think the Phoenix Metropolitan area takes the cake for being the worst. It gets to 115 (46 celsius) in the summer. The city is one strip-mall after another. That city shouldn't exist.
>>80616642
>>80616503
You're not thinking of LA the right way
Once you start thinking of Central LA as the actual city and the rest being suburban addons it makes a lot more sense as a traditional city
>>80603277
American Cities got too big too quickly and maintained the "old style city planning" at their heart which is largely incompatible with the newer grid and highway method of road planning especially.
Canadians cities besides Quebec city, and Montreal are a perfect example of how North American city planning is the best on the planet by virtue of simply being not as old
inb4
>Hurr durr x city planning is shit it's so crowded
Density is not an example of failed city planning
>x cities roads are so bad this city is better
Sure, cherrypick, but North American cities layouts are far superior to most notably European cities in terms of planning.
>>80604070
Go look at the Calgary skyline with the mountains in the background.
>>80617349
Also, no. Thinking of L.A as its proper definition is retarded. Use the limited megalopolis definition (not including Las Vegas or San Diego).
L.A is a city of about 13-14 million people and is the definition of urban sprawl. It's retarded to think of the city as the city core and then "suburban addons" as they do not act and operate on their own. They operate with L.A exclusively.
>>80616699
North Central Wisconsin sounds like the place for you
>>80617349
Downtown was shit until it started to gentrify within the last 10 years. And parts of the central city such as Westlake and Skidrow are probably beyond saving. I was in the McArthur park area last week for the first time in years. Absolute 3rd world country.
I grew up in the Valley, which is mostly within LA city limits. There's nothing to do with the exception of Sherman Oaks and NoHo. It doesn't even feel like LA.
>>80616503
I think you've confused Los Angeles with somewhere like Phoenix or Orlando.
>>80616934
Yep, Phoenix is a complete shithole.
>>80617349
This guy gets it. The parts of Los Angeles worth living in are just as dense and desirable as San Francisco.
>>80616681
Ah, Humanity wakes on the shores of Hildorien! Tolkien would love that pic!
>>80618071
So what? The suburban add ons don't take away from the central city. They add to it, as the name suggest.
>>80617893
Yeah I've always quite liked the look of Calgary.
>>80603277
SEND HELP
>>80616403
gopnikfag knows what's up. thank god finland is one of the less cucked yuro-countries in terms of cars, as a lot of our soil is pretty rural > moar freedom and cars.
>>80616699
Central georgia.
Yes we have niggers, but pretty much just in town.
I don't know of any within 10 miles.
>own a forest
>deer, turkeys, foxes, eagles, etc etc etcv.
> most people on 50+ acre lots
>local hardware store has bigger gun inventory than a lot of actual gun stores. (They have multiple .50 cal Barrets in stock)
No brewery, but we have moonshine...
>>80618584
based
How can other cities even compete?
>>80620164
Go to the northern banlieus of Paris and then see if your opinion still holds.
But yes, the central are of Paris along the Seine is the most beautiful large city in the world.
>>80620164
>City literally build to be easily taken by invading armies
Maximum over-cuck.
>>80620164
Degenerate shithole full of niggers and French people.
Wish Hitler's order to level it had been carried out.
>>80604199
You sound like a faggot. Marxists are not allowed in /pol/town.
>>80606582
cool
>>80615317
Make a better business. One that people want to go to more.
>>80615241
Why does that look like a video game?
mi city
>>80615975
If people don't use their cars except in emergency there will not be enough infrastructure for everyone when they try to. You're living in a fairy-tale world.
>>80620164
>less browns
>win
>>80603277
I live in the middle of nowhere. It's a nice place but cold all the time. The storms can be harsh. We had one this morning.
I got blasted with rain and wind. I only went out for a pint of milk and to check on my mum.
>>80620531
It's a "banuelle", not whatever the fuck you just wrote.
>>80616699
I like you
We are a politically correct city but not very friendly.
Here's my town.
>>80616699
Texas. Texas Hill Country in particular.
>Nature everywhere, deer, turkey etc
>Houses well spaced outside of the cities, full ranch material and land is cheap
>Only whites and a smattering of labor hispanics
>No swedes, just American Germans
>Guns everywhere, everyone carrying and very few restrictions
>Huge winery development going on currently, about to hit the big time
>Tons of breweries
>Top class Vodka distilleries
It's pretty fucking great, only problem is that summer is very hot and might melt your pasty ass. On the plus side, winter maybe has a handful of days below freezing.
I live in the second largest city of the country, Santiago de los Caballeros (literally St. John of the Knights). Not bad honestly.
>>80622970
Forgot pic.
>>80618642
DELETE THIS
>>80621075
That would need Mexicans to reject american "culture" (Real American culture is not this) there is this place in Tijuana, a Mexican style market called Mercado Hidalgo. Tons of exotic mexican fruits, mexican candys, restaurants from all prices. It is ugly but has its charm, you can always see americans going there because they like it, food is fresh and cheap but middle to higher class Mexicans do not want to go because "Nooooo, it is for poor people. I preffer buying this kosher shit and then complaining about people being poor, pfff, why can't they get a job?".
At least the BajaMed culinary movement made a pretty big niche for the local market, thank you, hipsters... I guess
>>80621267
Argentina seems to be very good at this, bless the Fremasons and their love for a e s t h e t i c s
Is the rest of the world even trying?
>>80605852
That's not London--there isn't nearly enough Muslims in your photo.
>>80603277
Amsterdam is pretty much perfect to be honest family.
>>80606582
>can't afford proper Houston
But Houston is about a cheap a large city as there is in USA
>>80621268
Anything against building the infrastructure but not using it? Not everything has to be in function of demand and supply.
>>80618454
Because thinking of them as separate doesn't work. They don't add anything, they physically work with the city. A lot of them are bedroom communities for the L.A manufacturing and commerce sector. It'd be like thinking of ANY given neighborhood in L.A as separate from L.A simply because it doesn't have a factory or skyscraper business tower in it.
Thinking of cities by city limits is retarded, they were obscure lines drawn up far before the city was relevant and based on environmental or economic limitations and not reasons for city planning or zoning, and such they should be ignored when looking at an urban or extended urban area.
It's worth pointing out that even the distinction between large cities (New York and Philadelphia for example) will soon be very hard to define without using city limits. If you don't believe me just look on Jewgle maps, if each city added 3 million and expanded towards each other the line would be inseperable and the areas between the two would also grow industry and commerce so it would be very hard to make the distinction between the two in that regard as well.
Mega cities and mega regions (mostly the mega region plan 2050) is the only way to keep cities distinct enough while making sure they are working together in their own market economies.
This is how we define urban areas and not "cities" which is by far an outdated classification.
My city
>>80624200
Only if you're too poor to afford a car.
>>80624200
Except for the niggers. And lefties. And then there's the niggers. Oh, and the mosques.
But that's just the Randstad for you.
>>80622880
>Texas Hill Country
I know that texicans think this is paradise, but most other people would consider it more than highly overrated. Anywhere in the West is much better.
>>80624996
It looks like rural NSW.
>>80603952
>radial grid less common
Literally whole of Europe and Washington.
>>80624960
Eh. Amsterdam is nice (minus the overcrowded, tourist-filled, city centre), but I definitely prefer Utrecht or Den Haag.
>>80624996
I've been everywhere and TX Hill Country is my favorite area on Earth.
>>80624757
I'm an alcoholic.
If I had to drive to the pub every day I would be dead by now
This thread is interesting but doesn't really belong on /pol/
>>80614903
>>80615241
Yeah, but it's full of spics
>>80625854
Where else? /b/? Nope, would be instantly filled with porn and mostly normies use /b/ anyway so nobody has urban planning interests. The rest of the boards are pretty much useless for this thread except /n/, but that's obviously a slow board that has threads open for days with 2 replies a day.
>>80603277
Paris to me is the ideal urban area.
Uniform, beautiful European-style Belle Epoque architecture, with Grecorroman touches. A strict building code so these old buildings are properly preserved and uniformity is mantained, with no modernist eyesores as in London. Skyscrapers can be build on the outskits, following the example of La Defense.
Buenos Aires used to be a lot like Paris but the greedy kikes couldn't contain themselves and in the last three decades many of the historical buildings have been torn down to build hideous skyscrapers or shitty apartment blocks, ruining the uniformity of the city.
Pic: Paris vs London
>>80609671
>>80610140
Big fan of Japanese style shopping centers. you get a nice blend of big box and local shops.
>>80609671
All the shopping centers around me (in SW Scotland) are actually pretty decent.
There are loads of small and medium business in them, barely any large businesses besides probably some random food ones like McDonalds and Starshmucks.
And even then, there are plenty of other food places, like your typical street food style, chippy, curry houses, Indian, Chinese, Thai, Mexican, American-style diners and such.
A bigger problem with them, however, is as >>80610397 mentions.
Over time, really shitty annoying people start to flood there, and the sub-standard parking becomes basically filled.
One I went to up in places like Kilbride aren't too bad, they have plenty of parking. One in my town (Ayr) is about to get a huge renovation to it.
>>80626087
Paris
>>80626269
Buenos Aires
>>80603277
19th century streetcar city with "euroblocks" surrounding an inner courtyard is the ideal.
Some examples: Prague, Barcelona, Paris.
Pre-war Warsaw and Berlin followed a similar pattern.
![eixample-barcelona7[6].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IE0BbNa.jpg "eixample-barcelona7[6].jpg")
>>80626492
>>80603277
I like the urban sprawl of busy streets. If we could get a New York City with based gun laws that would be fucking awesome
>>80626418
Buenos Aires
(The few areas that still mantain uniformity)
>>80626606
>>80624757
>t. someone too poor to have a personal chauffeur
>>80626606
>>80626733
These look great.
>>80626733
>tfw you will never live in an Arcology
Why even live?
Why continue breathing?
>>80610254
We fix this by stealing from places like Walmart. Thieve them out of business
Serious answer.
There is no better solution to this highly efficient BLIGHT on our neighborhoods. Keep stealing.
My ideal city would be one of extremely high vertical density with skyscrapers built above and extending below ground. Each tower would hold 20-30 thousand people yes massive skyscrapers connected with high speed rails. There would be a large amount of open space between each tower with some underground areas and a tower specifically to satisfy minorities. That gets 9/11ed once its full.
>>80626492
dat ring road
so moist
>>80618584
>>80619635
I lived in Calgary for several years, including in a downtown condo. Most of it does not qualify as a city. It's a miniature Los Angeles. And when you drive outside of it, you're reminded you're in the Canadian version of Ulaanbaatar.
>>80627199
I remember all those really old "3D City of the future" views, with massive skyscrapers all connected like that.
It would be hell to try to get people to agree to such things even if we had the materials to build them.
Look at current cities, architects and designers all out all the time because "some inconsiderate prick put a fucking dildo next to my masterpiece!".
Then you have that one fucktard who keeps building massive magnifying glasses and melting peoples cars.
Getting people to agree to a common interconnect between buildings will require a whole rethink of society.
Architecture as a career may well die that day as buildings become completely standard and unchanging.
The politics of such changes would require drastic changes as well. A local government would need to take control of the housing market entirely, with possibly the exception of the actual housing units and business like it is now in say, a shopping center.
The framework is there, but a company designs the inside.
![8162177045_7ff653aaa3_b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AZWFF4r.jpg "8162177045_7ff653aaa3_b[1].jpg")
>tfw your city is ugly
>>80627199
I heard a story about this South Korean who would go down an elevator in his apartment tower straight to the subway that would take him to his office for work, he would go for very long stretches without sunlight.
>>80624996
Yeah nah, it's pretty, has a great culture, has fantastic food (Central TX BBQ is the best in the country), access to anything you want citywise via Austin or San Antonio, and incredible music opportunities in Austin without having to actually live there.
Great place to live and/or raise a family.
>>80628098
Where is that
>>80628581
Eugene, OR
>>80614903
Upscale SoCal towns like Pasadena, Santa Barbara and Redlands are pretty comfy, but most of LA and San Diego are sprawling hellholes filled with piles of shoddy stucco boxes and rotting freeways.
There's just too many damn people here; I remember when the Inland Empire was nothing but citrus fields and a few nice towns, but now it's filled to the brim with shopping centers and overpriced subdivisions.
So, who do you think will be the first to make Midgar?
I know there is some city, forgot the name, that is sort of doing this but backwards.
They built the roof city. (on the ground)
Now they are going to build a city under the ground.
>>80606582
fuck you too buddy, i live in sugar land to stay away from the dindus.
fun fact: all the pajeets that poo in loo moved here.
>tfw your city was great until the Californians and hipsters figured that out and fucking ruined it
>>80622641
Looks freindly, where is it?
>my beautiful hometown
>population of 721
>recent asylum center opened
>sandniggers now make up roughly 25% of the population
We had our first robbery since like 1993 a couple of weeks ago. They haven't tried raping any of our women yet, because they know most of us have guns and will not hesitate to use them.
>>80630471
I am happy to hear that
Poisoned fried chicken when?
>>80606582
neat
>>80626492
>laplata
Very comfy when trees make such tunnel. Though city is utter disaster when car traffics is considered (nothing surprising as it was designed pre-car era). It would be good bike only town (plus lorries). Like it was intended.
>>80630471
Mmm, are the girls there conservative and traditional?
>>80631881
Most of them. Though a few whores who were taught by the media.
>>80626536
>plz kill me traffic
>>80621267
That is a nice looking city.
Small towns > big cities.
>>80632343
I would agree right now, but big cities should be nice. They shouldn't be havens for liberals and criminals. Cities are a reflection of the region. If you want to begin to understand the culture of somewhere you should be able to start with the closest city. But Most culture in cities are dead
>>80629726
Im moving there soon
>>80632312
>what is public transportation
>>80636071
forgot pic
>>80604687
This looks so comfy. Gotta admit
>>80603277
I think the mediterranean city is an excellent model of urban design. Dense urbanization allows for lots of services and commerces to be reachable by foot, so it reduces need for transportation. Also density makes urban public transit more efficient, which in turn allows for convenient service.
Ironically, I believe Barcelona isn't truly a mediterranean city, see: >>80626536
Observe that there's no clear difference between dense walkable neighbourhoods and ample avenues between those neighbourhoods, instead its a grid of similar sized streets which just spreads traffic around and favors gridlock.
>>80624133
London is 60% white
America in it's entirety is 60% white
>>80633696
You better not be a califag motherfucker
>>80603952
>systems
topkek
>>80626434
>>80603277
>Do you favour American or European urban design?
Alright, I don't have the greatest knowledge of urban design laws and such, but I believe that a mix of the two would be best. European codes, from what I've heard, are more restrictive than American ones, and while they've been able to conserve their beautiful old architecture, the American cities have greater potential because of their flexibility.
>>80605852
You almost got me, until I saw the sun shining.
Zamosc. It's a fortress with walls all around it.
how is this /pol/ related
what the fuck faggots
>>80640551
Architecture and planning threads are the best thing about /pol/.
t. sophisticated long-time browser of this formerly good board.
No planning, free style.
>>80640551
City planning involves
>The well being of people
>The economic power of big Corporations who want to build what they please
>Regulations by the state
Southern europe is GOAT
>>80606582
Woodlands is a white safe haven with like 3 total nigs, becoming overrun with the rich cartel familys from mexico tho
>>80642161
>ywn live here as a high middle ages french noble
Chicago
>>80603277
The most important part is that the city must have a "feel"
Where i live its a city but its kinda like a town you can make it across in 40 minutes
I've been to the capital and its fucking awful
while the buildings are nice they don't feel like a city
people don't even know the name of the streets
all they have memorized are the routes they have to take to go to where they need aka where are the stores ,wheres the school hospital etc, anything outside of that they don't really know
At some point It kinda stop being a human city and starts being a "habitat"
theres no people anywhere but in those designated areas
theres no place to walk except the designated walking areas
this is specially worse when the grids are irregular and might have tons of dead ends
it felt awful
Octagonal fortress as city center. Shame that the town is so minute.
>>80642665
there is an argie city (La plata, im sure you know it) where it was all planned out before hand in a symmetrical pattern. Have you ever been there?
>>80643172
Freddy NB wouldn't be too bad cept for all the nitchies and the rapugees Trudeau dumped off here.
>>80605113
Organic is the most fun to drive on.
>>80643172
Yes but i don't remember much because it was too long ago
>>80605251
>smells like Paris
Get your shit together, France.
>>80643744
But it's true, my school's French teacher smells bad. They say things like "Heh, you Mexicans bath every day because you are filthy, we are clean, that's why we do not bath as often" but you can smell their lies.
Halifax Nova Scotia is the perfect size and layout. It is all built on one peninsula in the second deepest natural harbour in the world
>>80643728
and also symmetry doesn't necessary fix anything nor asymmetry necessary ruins everything
I don't know how to put it into words nor i have given much of a thought tho
So I can't help you much.
But i really really hated how the capital works
The city must transmist through all its pieces a cohesive idea that brings people together
In a way going to the capital felt no different from going inawoods
>>80627727
>Then you have that one fucktard who keeps building massive magnifying glasses and melting peoples cars
Kek the fucking cheesegrater in London. Funny thing is everyone who knows anything about it shuts the fuck up immediately and pretends nothing is happening. No one wants to take responsibility for that shitshow that will need to be demolished in the future.
>>80620532
I thought it was designed for the exact opposite of that?
>>80638012
God tier right here.
>>80603952
It feels like shit driving in anything but organic.
>>80643341
I hope you make those refugees lives terrible. Make them want to go back.
>>80604474
Kids can't play outside sometimes due to pollution levels.
Welcome to the Society Hill/Olde City aesthetic of downtown Philly. I know the city is overrun with niggers in the current year, but we still have some beauty left. Downside is that this area is dominated by the urban, elite, wealthy liberals of Philly. For us East Coast guys, yuppies.
>>80606582
>tfw I live in D
all of you poor plebs get on my level
>>80645977
they're better at making people's lives terrible they have more practice.
>>80616503
No, Mecca is.
>>80646629
top kek
>>80644442
Second deepest harbor in the world is Sydney, boss.
I think /pol/ needs to look more towards the city of St. Petersburg (the real one, not the one in Florida). That is a fantastic example of a planned city.
>>80603682
holy fuck all my tax dollars and they let the fucking neon burn out on the bottom leaf. im literally going to spill my coffee in rage.
We're trying to plant as many trees as possible to hide our city from the map.
>>80646843
European looking city, and the nicest one Russians built in their country, which is funny considering the Nazis wanted to completely erase it.
>>80604070
>We don't have mountains in Australia
The fuck you on about? There are plenty of mountains in Australia dumbass.
Now, if you want to build the perfect American suburban community on the other hand, the best example you can take is Levittown, Pennsylvania.
It has/had:
>Sections of a couple hundred acres
>Prominent greenbelts dividing sections, some with creeks and
>Organic street design
>Different sections have different types of houses (Country Clubbers, Jubilees, Colonials, Levittowners, etc.)
>Each house type has 2 - 4 variations of the design
>Houses are spaced as to not be so close and not so far apart
>Each house had a shade tree to minimize heat during summer
>Pools, Parks, and Schools were built in the center of sections and often very close to each other (kids wanna go to the pool, right?)
>(originally) No fences to not be stuffed up (natural fences, like plants, trees, or gardens were welcome)
>An outdoor shopping mall
>A train station for easy transit into the city
>Multiples churches and places of worship scattered throughout the community evenly
>Baseball parks for community leagues (usually kids)
Liberals hated Bill Levitt for even conceiving the idea of Levittown for post-war housing. Liberals wanted the government to provide housing for returning GIs, usually in the form of apartments or cheap monotonous suburban communities. They couldn't stand the fact that a private company could make an even better and well-running community than the government.
>>80646144
This tbqh.
>>80604199
pol town would have blond hair blue eye spartans playing vidya living off all other untermensch helot whites working.
>>80603277
>or your own urban area.
Don't live in one since i'm not a subhuman
>Feel free to post pics of what you see as an ideal urban area
This
>>80605692
>Urban sprawl
>A bad thing
Looks like you still have a lot of arrogant Brit in you after all.
>>80606582
No mention of the mexicans?
I worked near Little York and 45 and it felt like northern Mexico.
>>80606245
>Are reasonable dense cities bad?
All cities are bad
>>80612557
>Absolutely. Sprawl is ugly and ineffective. High density is good in the long term.
Hi reeeddit
>>80615764
Oh shut up. Not everyone here lives in a human slaughterhouse. Lots of us are actual living humans who live in rural areas. You want to fuck us over because of your leftist bitchery.
There's plenty of space if you faggots would stop trying to keep us tied to earth. Let us invade space.
American Town Architecture is also pretty nice
>>80616699
Agree. There, I'll compromise.
This urbanism everyone's eating up ITT isn't a good thing. It degrades us as humans.
>>80603682
>need to set aside 1hour+ to go anywhere on time
>the expressways are perpetually 50km/h in 100km/h limit lanes
>subway lines are considered "conservative" so the liberal governments keep making and paving over the same "bike" lanes because they can't make up their transgendered minds
>go 15 years+ without adding a new subway station
>me, shitposting from the 401 because it's that slow
Toronto's city council needs to play a few citiy sims. That's assuming drivers are obedient.
>>80603277
I am a fan of American design in the 1920s and 1930s before highways and desegregation killed the city
>>80650857
>>80632343
Agree
>>80632627
>I would agree right now, but big cities should be nice. They shouldn't be havens for liberals and criminals.
Except that's inherent to cities. That's like saying dogs are nice but they shouldn't bark.
>Cities are a reflection of the region.
No, they're a reflection of what happens when 1 area gets to steal from the rest. Cities don't perform a central function anymore.
>If you want to begin to understand the culture of somewhere you should be able to start with the closest city
Only a subhuman cityfag would say that.
The biggest problem with cities is that you're fucked if you're born within one(if you're even lucky to be born) since, not wanting competition with other cities, you're never going to be able to afford to leave.
>>80650098
>image.jpg
>>80651480
>I am a fan of American design in the 1920s and 1930s before highways and desegregation killed the city
Idiot, Duluth stayed white AND it had few highways(i-35 just ends in it) yet it turned out to be a deindustrialized shithole. Unless blacks turned white when they moved there for ""Reasons"", then Its pretty obvious that the real cause of the problem lies elsewhere.
>>80603793
good but the streets are too wide.
>>80605917
nice
>>80609490
wow, a european town without a single muslim in sight
i saved this from before, prob also from /pol/
>>80626539
:( cant carry here.. so sad.... One day, after the chimp out maybe?
>>80626434
that's pretty nice
>>80604687
Heaven material right there
Having top tier natural surroundings is great, pic related where I live
>>80653338
Omg so fab
>>80605852
god that's hideous
>>80647308
Small american cities with that kind of layout are ugly af
