can't make up for the shortfall.
3.5 million workers will be lost in Germany until 2035. There will be a total of at least 4 million workers which Germany needs by then which will not be available. Extreme robotization can only make up 2 million of those workers, leaving Germany with a shortfall of 2 million skilled workers.
And no, unskilled refugees ain't going to help, Germany needs highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe.
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/wirtschaftswissen/studie-deutschland-gehen-die-arbeitskraefte-aus-14332606.html
Now you know why Germany pay so much into the EU which in turn gets paid to Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltics, Hungary, Slovakia and the Balkans.
This is also why Germany pushes for an expansion of the EU incorporating Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus. They have young white skilled workers who will be more than willing to come to Germany and wörk wörk wörk
>>80372488
Needs or what happens?
>>80372488
This needs to be your new national socialist anthem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GL9JoH4Sws
>>80372488
Theres massive unemployment in greece and spain. Why not encourage them to move to germany? Why must it be eastern europe?
>>80372828
>Needs or what happens?
The economy collapses from lack of workers.
>>80372488
>ukraine
>>>/x/
>>80372991
>Why not encourage them to move to germany? Why must it be eastern europe?
Spaniards and Greeks come to GErmany, but they are not happy in Germany. They need warm weather and food from their home countries. They usually return home after a 2-3 years.
But Eastern Europeans are used to pic related and shitty cold weather. They think Germany is just a prettier variety of their home turf.
>>80373131
Then get more babies Hans, it is fucking simple.
Keep up the white babies being born and your problem will be fixed.
Otherwise it is not the worst thing to happen if a few million here or there gets away, you got millions of moslems right?
>>80373351
How cold does it usually get in Germany?
>>80372488
Hey lads, a tip for whenever you see news containing "until 2035", "in 2050" etc. just stop reading right there. That's just fucking bullshit and you know it. It doesn't work like that. You can't project the current situation several years ahead. Remember what they said about oil? About global warming?
>>80374646
>How cold does it usually get in Germany?
Depends on the area. Anywhere from New York to Minnesota.
Imagine when the west automates and all the minorities are complaining about the circuitbacks that took their jobs
>>80374733
Both of those get cold as fuck in the winter
>>80373351
>>80372488
I'm a factory supervisor and I'd come to Germany for enough money. I can't sprechen zee deutche though.
>>80372488
>wörk wörk wörk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA
>>80374735
Robot is a slur the correct term is artificial person.
>>80374925
> I can't sprechen zee deutche though.
You certainly can't.
>>80374970
check your living privilege shitlord
>>80374925
>I can't sprechen zee deutche though.
Dude, you don't even have an accent!
>>80372488
>take Ukrainian Refugees
>let them stay if they get a Job
>White Population rises
>profit
>>80372488
How about those few billion rapefugees you imported? You say they won't help, so what are they? Charity?
>>80375225
>wanting white people
>2016
>>80372488
Hm.... that's enough years for a baby to grow into an adult
>>80372488
BS. Have been hearing this for 15 years now, still not true.
>88 checked
>>80372488
Then raise YOUR FUCKING BIRTH RATE you fucking moron.
You will not resolve these problems without addressing the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
RAISE THE FUCKING BIRTH RATES. Make it economically attractive to get married and have children. It is the only way you can resolve your problems.
>>80374803
Temp are about -10°C in winter and about +35°C in the summer
>>80373351
Disgusting isn't it, why would they want to live in their Eastern European shit holes like that when they can have a much better experience in Berlin?
>>80374646
I live in Rheinland Pfalz and its been 3 years since i have seen snow.
>>80375402
You will never ever hear anybody suggesting there to be more babies.
>>80375227
>How about those few billion rapefugees you imported?
That was just a /pol/ meme. Since 1 January 2015, only 284,000 refugees have received asylum in Germany, of which there were 213,000 Syrians. Only part of them are workers, there are quite some people with university degrees which ain't workers.
>>80374733
>Anywhere from New York to Minnesota.
Those are places in the US, not temperatures you clod
>>80372488
That's because all of those doctors and engineers from Syria, Iraq, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Uganda, Afghanistan, Turkey, Croatia, and Sudan are far to skilled to receive any work.
Honestly, this is the fault of the German people. You guys simply aren't giving them enough. You should just start allowing these incredibly talented young men with bright futures as nuclear physicists and Rocket Scientists to have multiple German wives and € 120,000 yearly stipends.
>>80375647
Sure.
>>80372991
There's a reason why they are unemployed: They don't possess any marketable skills. Moving to Germany won't change that. Somehow wasting 12+ years of your life in socialist indoctrination camps called public schools doesn't prepare people to lead a productive life. I mean, holy shit, Spanish people suck even at speaking English. I think even the French are better and they are actively trying to not speak English out of pride.
Do you guys ever think these articles are bullshit? Like there are 10 Germans sitting around in an office in some news agency with a white board with a quota like...
>100 on labor shortage
>50 humanity pieces
>70 on native German crime
And theyre all getting paid by kikes to twist the facts or downright invent the numbers so youll say
>well these arabs keep raping our daughters but everybody knows about the labor shortage so its best that theyre here
>>80375225
Fact: The German government doesn't the Ukraine as a war zone and deports Ukrainian Refugees.
Can't have white people in Germany who actually want to live like Europeans.
>>80375647
Bavarian here,
i live in a City with 100.000 citizen and our official number is 1.100 Refugees ,m8
There's enough Poles and Russians to fix that
>>80375647
How many fucking times have you posted exactly this ultra-low quality bait? Jesus titty fucking christ, get a job.
>>80372880
hahaha yes so true ! welfare song about staying at home and breeding because welfare will pay for your children
>>80375728
>Sure.
We received 575,000 EU citizens last year, pretty much all of them people with jobs. That is a shitton more important than the "refugees".
>>80375647
>That was just a /pol/ meme. Since 1 January 2015, only 284,000 refugees have received asylum in Germany, of which there were 213,000 Syrians
>>80375647
Of course. Most of them are Rocket Scientists.
>Implying Asylum permit statistics are credible
Get the Fuck out you imbecile, everyone who came here is still here. And they will stay here.
>>80375951
this is his job
>>80372488
>highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe.
>highly skilled
>workers
>Eastern Europe
Choose one
>>80373131
>The economy collapses because of a lack of qualified workers willing to work for pennies, so the shareholders get more money and me, ahmed who has married his 5 year old sister legaly in cuckistan can bring the rest of my worthless welfare leeching non contributing family over and get the right to fuck goats inbetween fucking my sister
Fixed it for you
>>80375486
-10°C isn't even cold
>>80372488
Maybe they can build robots that have a sense of self-preservation, since german's don't.
>>80375951
>>>80375647 (You)
>How many fucking times have you posted exactly this ultra-low quality bait? Jesus titty fucking christ, get a job.
http://www.bamf.de/DE/Infothek/Statistiken/Asylzahlen/Asylgesch%C3%A4ftsstatistik/asylgeschaeftsstatistik-node.html
Why don't you look it up yourself?
141k this year positive decisions 1 Jan to 31 May
143k in 2015 positive decisions
>>80375717
meaning the climate of the areas retard
>muh cheap labour is threatened
>better import third worlders
>>80375875
we have Ukrainain Refugees, but yeah only about 9.000 and they had individual court cases to stay there. Only Women and children are allowed to stay.
At the same time we let every fucking Necher from Africa into the Country.
>>80375225
>slav
>white
>>80374407
>Then get more babies Hans
Almost every european country needs this.
This year in Spain has died more people than childs borned.
>>80376283
The elites are not even pretending to hide the fact they think nation states are an obsolete concept,
>>80376201
isn't this only because the bamf is lacking behind schedule and most of the 1 Trillion asylum applications aren't even on the office desks yet?
how many Kothäute have been deported?
>>80375647
But if you don't do anything to deport they will stay and get citizenship. Lot of people stay illegally and stay until that happens. At best they get a job or job training. At worst they commit crimes and live with that or go to jail.
>>80376309
meme as much as you want, but hohols are whiter than Ivans to be honest
>>80373351
I'd be up to work and live in southern germany, my grandfather was from BW, but I kinda want to escape retarded leftism and big government. You're right about spaniards though, I know and have heard of many who work there for a year or so and then return. I guess the experience they gain makes them more employable here
>>80372488
Too bad the want niggers and sandniggers instead of those countries you stated
>>80372488
I welcome any inter-European, north-American and far east Asian with open arms.
Its only shitskin countries I have problems with and it really bothers me that brits pester EU immigrants.
>>80376201
>Why don't you look it up yourself?
Why don't you go fuck yourself? And come up with something original for a change?
>>80372488
more like your schools went to shit long ago thanks to your very own child-fucker-party and now the rest of the skilled workers run away from the muslim onslaught and lawlessness in cuckmany. enjoy.
>>80375481
WOW, I can't BELIEVE you would suggest that birthrates would need to be raised. Unskilled, uneducated migrants from a cultural utterly opposed to Western values that don't speak a lick of German are clearly the answer, it's 2016!
>>80372488
>muh economy
We used to make fun of Bush and Americans for that argument, now we make it ourselves. Life is more than money, life is more than useless spendings on smart phones and luxury shit that you don't need.
>>80376413
>isn't this only because the bamf is lacking behind schedule and most of the 1 Trillion asylum applications aren't even on the office desks yet?
>how many Kothäute have been deported?
Full stats are like this:
1 Jan to 31 May 2016:
310k asylum claims
- 232k decisions
- 141k positive decisions
1 Jan to 31 Dec 2015
476k asylum claims
- 283k decisions
- 143k positive decisions
Yes, deportations are lacking behind. But I can't do anything about that. The point was that it is only the ones with positive decisions which can work. There are some loopholes for "geduldete Personen", but not on a permanent basis and noone will hire them given their status. So they cannot stop the worker shortage.
>>80376899
sadly germans are governed by this guy
>>80376975
NO
You are just jealous that you can't afford anything nice
poorfag detected, kill yourself for the good of humanity
just bought the newest Samsung Galaxy, u mad poorfag??
fucking faggot, YOU ARE JEALOUS KILL YOURSELF ALREADY
>>80375481
Never been done anywhere ever unfortunately
>>80376899
>Unskilled, uneducated migrants from a cultural utterly opposed to Western values that don't speak a lick of German are clearly the answer, it's 2016!
they need to be skilled. read the article.
>birthrates
We can't make 3.5 million more babies in say the next 5 years. It would mean the birthrate would have to double immediately and reach Bangladesh territory.
>>80376975
>yfw you realize those migrants aren't supposed to be workers but consumers
>>80372488
>Germany needs highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe
I don't think they'd like to risk their well-being in a Muslim country
>>80372488
This is what happens when the people you need to rely on to actually make children are told that having more pricks than a dartboard is "empowering". Thanks J-ws.
Does Moldova really have skilled workers?
Seriously, why are they so shit?
>>80377285
>I don't think they'd like to risk their well-being in a Muslim country
They already do.
>>80372488
>europeans are too lazy to work
>want to live a comfy bullshit light socialist life
>"fuck, we still need workers!"
>import millions of third world savages to work
>they start alpha maleling all the beta german cucks into accepting their sharia ways and make Germany their bitch
>now making robots that will put all of these savages out of work to
>Germany will basically just become an oligarchy of socialist political elites ruling over a swarm of niggers while robots do all the work
This is what you get for not wanting to work faggots.
>People answering a shill without savaging
What has happened to 4chan, is it really just a place to test board desruption methods?
>>80377470
Germany's not a Muslim country just yet. Give it 20 years.
>>80375855
Exactly. Labour shortage for what? Low birthrates compared to when?
Basically everyone has been tricked into appeasing the demands of banks and big business like they are the fabric of society and not the actual citizens.
The labour force is already full and yeah the population is aging, so what? Life expectancy is higher than ever.
Realistically women could become mothers in their late 40s/early 50s if absolutely necessary so a few years of low birthrates is only worrying to business projections not society as a whole.
Rather than keep someone employed until retirement then pay out a pension and pass on the position at the same rate, they would sooner hire 2 younger people for less than half the wage and immigrants are preferred because they can be dismissed with little recourse.
>>80377465
skilled = willing to work
have you ever worked with a muslim during Ramadan? it's hillarious :^)
>>80376120
how do the shareholders get more money if there's no skilled workers
If you want me to work, you better spoon-feed me.
>>80377194
It was a joke Germany, yeesh.
Also while the birthrates can't be raised in time to prevent population loss, it could certainly help to slow things down and ultimately reverse them. A few years of population loss isn't a fucking Armageddon scenario.
>>80377676
Oh. Yes they certainly are, but it makes me sad seeing their shit country. I'm sure they could be great with a couple years good management
>>80377777
>>80377777
>>80377777
>>80377777
kek confirms
here's my offering
>>80377499
>>they start alpha maleling all the beta german cucks into accepting their sharia ways and make Germany their bitch
Biggest meme ever. German women are all about status. Some unemployed negro "refugee" is not something German women are attracted to.
We have seen this phenomenon in the past. Lots of male migrants cannot even find a woman and then visit the cheap brothels and drink and cry themselves into the night. It is a real problem.
>sees skilled Germans leaving Germany
>notices sand niggers entering Germany
Lol, krauts got fucking sharia pulled into white flight
>>80378118
in the meantime in the real world.
>>80378118
>German women are all about status.
yeah, and being a tolerant liberal cuck is the highest status they can have right now.
>>80372991
We tried inviting in Spaniards, they can't deal with our labor culture and left as quickly as they came. I didn't want to believe the memes, but it's true. People from nice weather countries seem to lack the will to self-sacrifice.
>>80372488
>Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus.
>come to Germany and wörk wörk wörk
No fucking way. maidan was not for that. Gib 1000 euros every month each of us and that's it. You do the working Germany we'll wave EU flag and buy your shit with your money. To each his own.
>>80373131
nope
>>80378698
You are too selfish to be a Slavic. Nice try, mongol.
>>80375647
this is blatantly false. kys antifa cuck
>>80372488
Germans are the worst kind of people
You destroy everything you touch
This birthrate scare is the best jewish meme.
Society is collapsing, shops in towns are closing because owners are dying before anyone is old enough to take the position.
Schools are empty and maternity wards are filled with old people, once babies that no one claimed.
There is such a shortage of labour that you can walk into any company and be employed just for being under 60.
Colleges are barren and anyone with a degree is hailed like a king and their knowledge is valued far and wide. They are paid in gold bars because of their rarity.
Women in the street are lined up naked and begging to be filled with semen before they dry up.
Let us import shit skins en mass to fix this mess!
"This is also why Germany pushes for an expansion of the EU incorporating Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus. They have young white skilled workers who will be more than willing to come to Germany and wörk wörk wörk" - You forgot the part in which they kill off their countries of origins in the process...
It's funny because we have more people in higher education today than ever before.
But of course they're all getting useless Liberal Arts degrees, rendering themselves unemployable.
>>80378657
>they can't deal with our labor culture
I highly doubt that is the reason, we spaniards hate working and in germany you work way less hours on average than here. aren't there almost 200k spaniards in germany working right now?
The culture definetely has something to do and we will miss home, but the "labour culture" itself isn't it
>>80377039
Any porn on that hwat loli next to the capt?
What happened to all those highly skilled Somalian doctors they brought it?
Also, why do they want Slavs?
>>80372488
>Germany needs highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe.
Ah, the 'all refugees are unskilled laborers' meme.
Hey, here's a thought - if you need skilled workers, why don't you emigrate skilled workers?
>>80378322
>in the meantime in the real world.
Yes, SJWs want to "help" kids.
Doesn't mean they want to sleep with unemployed, uneducated negro "refugees". A "refugee" would have to be a doctor or rocket scientist for them to consider him as a mate. You need to watch more animal kingdom, lad.
>>80375519
get fucked that is economic and functional accommodation.
Least they didnt paint it white or light grey just to have it go grimy, like some soviets
Maybe they repainted.
>>80379035
We work hard, not long. We might only be at it 40 hours a week, but in that time, we move mountains. We love to work.
>>80376448
>But if you don't do anything to deport they will stay and get citizenship.
You cannot get citizenship without a valid permanent title of residence. None of the people who were declined asylum can get citizenship.
>>80379035
>in germany you work way less hours on average than here
citation needed
>>80379244
keep telling yourself that. white, blond german women are getting fucked by strong black bulls as you sperg out on pol.
>>80378958
>You forgot the part in which they kill off their countries of origins in the process...
I think that was implied. We don't care what happens with the Eastern European countries in the process. We never did, desu-senpai Drakula.
>>80376476
My name is Ivan and I find this offensive.
I was looking forward to moving to germoney as a junior software developer or expert in finance but with DB burning to the ground I guess I'll stay here and breed white children for my motherland
>>80372488
Maybe if all the fucking factories didn't relocate to Germany/China and were a bit more spread cross the countries.
>>80379470
>he doesn't know who usain bolt is
>>80372488
you can have back your cheep peoples, who work in switzerland for 1/2 wages, and destroy our economy...
>>80379470
>white, blond german women are getting fucked by strong black bulls as you sperg out on pol.
Might be, but they don't procreate with them. They use protection or the pill or an abortion thereafter. Especially SJWs are very firm about not having kids, especially not their own black kids. Adopting them is fine, but not having their own black babies.
>>80379416
there's dozens of these studies
>>80379622
We are getting about one new factory worth of foreign investors a week this year, every factory is about 500 workers. Too bad they come not because of muh advanced country or muh profitable market but because we earn less than fucking china
>>80379653
>2010
>Germany
>West Germany
wat
I mean I'm not doubting your claim. I know we have pretty fair work hours, but that is still weird.
>>80380081
Well it looks like an american study so go figure lol
>>80379653
Soviet Union is missing, Jorge.
>>80372488
Why the fuck should we go to Germany?
1. you will spit on us and degrade us at the same time you blow the black dick
2.you'll lock us up when we say something completely common sensicall, on the basis of hate speech
3.we'll just get muged by fucking muslims
I'd rather stay here and slave away for thirty years than coming to Germany
Remember how Germany banned us from coming to germany work market, in fear that we will drive down the wages? Well, good luck training the rocket scientists you just got.
>>80376339
yeah, because woman have to much rights, and the man won't pay childsupport, better you try rob a bank...
we need to fix that, import more woman from east, send goat back
>>80380206
>Remember how Germany banned us from coming to germany work market, in fear that we will drive down the wages? Well, good luck training the rocket scientists you just got.
Hahahahah based
>>80372488
There are 27 million net tax payers in Germany (of 82 million inhabitants).
12 million of those are financially directly dependent from the state in some form or another, which leaves 15 million.
8 million of those are younger than 44 years. Half of those are those really able ones keeping the German economy afloat.
4 million working people.
Paying 100 billion euros in taxes between 2016 and 2020 for the refugees/migrants who came here only in 2015.
What we need is not more skilled workers. We need less migrants.
And we need to stop the brain drain.
140,000 academics are leaving the country every year, most are never coming back. Because the intelligent ones are realizing Germany is going down and shit is going to hit the fan within a couple of years. Plus, wages in Germany are ridculously low.
>>80380218
the fun thing is that the most radical islamic radicals are born in Germany to German parents
>>80380206
>1. you will spit on us and degrade us at the same time you blow the black dick
Yes, that's life. Deal with it.
>2.you'll lock us up when we say something completely common sensicall, on the basis of hate speech
Then just talk in Czech like all other Czechia natives.
>3.we'll just get muged by fucking muslims
What is "cost of living"?
>>80380206
>I'd rather stay here and slave away for thirty years than coming to Germany
Good, you have the best economy in the EU right now, as far as I know. Lowest unemployment and most solid economy. Why would a Czech person come to GErmany???
>>80380206
>Remember how Germany banned us from coming to germany work market, in fear that we will drive down the wages?
As by now, you are free to come.
>>80380578
>Good, you have the best economy in the EU right now, as far as I know.
Lel no. They are solid, but on a much lower level than we are.
>>80380481
Yeah but you want to keep your fat trade surplus (that is comparable only to the Chinese) don't you kraut? You are Jewing your people so you can jew the world harder and Jewing the Greeks to keep the euro weak so you can jew the world even harder
>less people to provide for
we need unskilled labor from people that can't speak our language to fix this!
liberals actually believe this
>>80380206
You are right, this will happen here. Germoney is a land full of arrogant bastards, if you want to work, get industrial partners. If you do good work, they will love you but don't try to take loans in germany, this system is fucked up right now....
Just saying /pol/ bro...
>>80372488
you mean to have the skilled workers come to germany for lower pay, is that what you're trying to tell me? I do not believe that corporatists are going to pay slavs as much as germans, it's how the system works
last time I checked, every 10th german who finishes abitur can't find a job, so starting there might be a better idea
>>80380534
This guy looks like a stereotypical chechen
I bet his name is Magomed Magomedov
Didn't this whole shitshow start because Merkel thought she could import a fuckton of migrants for cheap labor?
>>80372488
>STEM is a meme
>>80372488
Do you need the EU to admit the immigrants you want or need?
Kill yourself
>>80381585
I'll make sure to bring down the value of this rare Peperika of yours
>>80378657
Whats the work culture like in Germany? Im curious, I heard that retirement age is REALLY late.
>>80372488
The globalists strike again.
Kill (((them))) now Europe, before you regret your kindness.
>>80382140
Projected retirement age for our generation is 74.
http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article140224066/Nur-die-Rente-mit-74-kann-Deutschland-noch-helfen.html
>>80382140
>Arbeite du Amerikaner Drecksack, arbeite!
>Then go home and play your favorite simulator game
Pretty much this.
>>80381615
no, she don't get fuck, so she think, may she can import black man, who appreciative and fuck her. OR she only want see the world burn. import man instead of woman, was a big mistake... black and arab don't care about family incoming, they want only make party...
>>80382369
>krauts have to work their asses off until 74 to feed billions of leeches
you cant make that shit up. true slaves working for their brown masters
>>80372488
>Extreme robotization can only make up 2 million of those workers,
Is there a cap on the number of robots allowed in the workforce in Germany?
Or is this the usual people in the [current year] underestimating the technology in [future year]?
>>80372991
what's the difference?
>>80382550
That English kinda triggers me.
>>80372488
So in other words: Hitler was right.
>>80382369
Better get back to work Hans, the welfare of that refugee forcibly culturally enriching your wife and daughter (who is being protected by the police) in the other room isn't going to pay for itself
chop chop
>>80380066
>10% flat tax for everyone and everything
>2M Bulgars who left since the 90´s
>Happens that the sons and daughters of this immigrants get degrees and trades
>Average wage 250-300€
after 20 years someone had to notice this trends
The shortage of skilled workers in the near future is 100% bullshit and got debunked already.
The employers' associations push the politicians to offer them and abundance of cheap and skilled workforce. They dont want to raise wages or offer perpetual contracts - they want to pick an employee out of 100 applications - anything under this number and they call it shortage.
I don't see the problem.
All they have to do is raise wages for these industries and more young Germans and other eurotrash will gain skills to work those jobs.
Let the value of human labor rise for fucking once in this generation.
>>80383678
I know in Münich thy got a big shortage of programmers and engineers.
And they just can't fill it up, like a shortage of 2k of skilled workers a year.
>>80372488
To the European media and the government (unelected bureaucrats) that controls it,
You just couldn't let it go. After all that has happened you still can't read the writing on the wall. With all the changes that we have seen and the massive shift in public opinion, you just couldn't let it go.
You keep pushing it. Even though your own newspapers have been following the shift from joy, to tolerance, annoyance , and now anger, you still refuse to give up your dangerous agenda. You fail to see that the people have already broken and that pushing people who have given you the last shred of kindness they possess can no longer give any more.
You have been warned. Your names are known. Your faces are known. When your dreams and ideals crumble before you, when the people you maligned, smeared, took advantage of, worked to destroy. When we push back, do you believe we will have the kindness left to spare you?
>>80383678
sources pls
>>80383678
>debunked
you are a crank.
i would say you need to leave, but /pol/ is probably just the place for you, so carry on being insane
Encourage ethnic German-Americans to come work and live in Germany. Spice it up, make it about affordable life, free university, heritage. ect.
>>80383866
Often times they demand years of work experience for entry lvl salaries.
>>80372488
RRREEEEEE
> There will be a total of at least 4 million workers which Germany needs
MY ASS
There is zero - I repeat ZERO - demand for "high skilled workers" in Germany, I speak from personal experience.
What they really want, are high skilled low-wage slaves who work their fucking asses off for 15€ / hour.
They pull off this fucking propaganda every fucking year, and I am 35 years old.
We already have the lowest wages and the longest working hours in Europe, that's the flip-side to Germany's economic "miracle".
IT'S BULLSHIT POINT AND END OF STORY
>>80384336
>>80384494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFq2aAcf-8s
http://www.mdr.de/exakt/die-story/exakt-die-story-das-maerchen-vom-fachkraeftemangel100.html
>>80372488
Who wants to work in Germany when your money will be stolen and given to rapefugees?
>>80385006
Do you guys still have 35 hour work weeks
>>80372488
>hohols
>wörk
Yeah nah.
>>80385006
germany has some of the shortest work weeks of any western country
>>80385139
For me it's 30 days of payed holiday and im working 37,5 hourse a week.
Im not complaining, but there are a lot of people who could.
>>80385325
We work 40-45 hours a week and make much less
>>80385450
We get taxed less though. That doesn't spare us from poverty though.
>>80375481
For that to happen, Germany and the whole of Europe needs to recreate the social conditions that lead to the baby booms of the 50s and 60s, aka ditching feminism and going back to traditional families. But feminists who have a stronghold in government and the media would much rather let Europe burn than go back to the way things used to be.
>>80385450
Its pretty comfy for some, but others get abused.
German companies are doing great throughout the crisis but employees barely get a raise.
But i will agree that you guys have rough conditions over there.
>>80385139
Only the ticks who work for the government
>>80385297
Yes, because almost 50% of the populations works directly or indirectly for the government, and they enjoy "special" privileges. You should consider the fact, that only 16 MIO Germans actually pay taxes. And we are a nation of 83 MIO + 1.53 MIO refugees.
All the people I know (and me) have at least a 42+ hour workweek.
8 hours a day + 1 hour break
Companies do not pay for breaks, and eating my soup in the fucking office counts as work for me
§ 4 Arbeitszeitgesetz (ArbZG)
>>80386148
Ain't that some kind of German economic policy.
That you don't get raises that often for more job security?
>>80386383
Not that i know of.
As for job security - once you got a permanent contract its quite hard for them to get you fired.
>>80372488
Too late, Germany. You decided to massively disrupt your entire society by stuffing it full of Middle Eastern refugees, which compete easily for whatever benefits you'd offer imported blue-collar workers.
Watch industry leave Germany instead if they add those states to the EU.
>>80385450
You should compare the tax rates
I would escape to the Land of the Free, if I could afford the 12500€ ticket for the visa lottery
Chances are 1:50000
Nothing holds me here anymore, Germany I am done with you once and for all
>>80380066
Be happy people have a job. Here there are over 100000 unemployed.
Learn programming. You'll always need programmers
>>80378946
>Women in the street are lined up naked and begging to be filled with semen before they dry up.
Where can I find this wonderful place?
>>80386316
>You should consider the fact, that only 16 MIO Germans actually pay taxes
See people, this is why the AfD will never amount to anything. Its followers are just idiots.
The German tax system is principally based on the VAT, not on individual income taxes. We have the VAT and then a large variety of other taxes, all of which are proportionally paid more by the working class and middle class than the rich... from lottery taxes to capped mandatory church taxes to VAT to cigarette taxes to high gasoline taxes to the freaking tax for the state propaganda media.
But AfD voters don't understand this and claim that "only 16 million Germans pay taxes".
Retards the lot of them. That is why I will continue to vote CSU, come what may.
Fucking useless Prussians.
>>80387145
Bullshit
see
>>80385006
>>80372488
This is what people have been saying about Japan for 30 years.
Jews are jews.
>>80385024
>Who wants to work in Germany when your money will be stolen and given to rapefugees?
We have budgeted less for rapefugees in the next 4 years than America spends to fix the flaws in the software of the F-35... or on one year in Afghanistan. So much for that.
>>80387316
>The industries are getting more and more automated
And who do you think they need to automatize even acountants and stuff?
Programmers.
>>80387456
Do you think Americans don't know what mass immigration leads to??? We were on the verge of war in the 90's if Newt wouldn't have gotten rid of welfare
>>80385006
>for 15€ / hour.
HAHA, you do know that is 20 dollar per hour... at 30 holiday days plus weekends plus public holidays, plus bonus plus paid health insurance plus pension plus taxpayer paid education for your kids etc.
Shit, people are dense. In America grown men work for 8 dollar per hour without having health insurance or any way to send their kids to university.
>>80387456
That's why you can get raped by Russia easily while USA blows them the fuck out into orbit.
>>80375225
This.
>>80387287
> That is why I will continue to vote CSU, come what may.
>>80385006
What high skilled labor do you do?
>>80387619
>We were on the verge of war in the 90's if Newt wouldn't have gotten rid of welfare
BS. You still got welfare... it's called the United States military and it spends 1 trillion a year on 10 million people composed of soldiers, their families, contractors, suppliers, veterans etc. For what? So Ahmed in Helmland can have his goat blown up with a 1.5 million cruise missile?
No, the article you posted is about the fact that they need more (((workers))) so they can keep the wages low because robots are actually too expensive in comparision to human workers.
>>80387655
>That's why you can get raped by Russia easily while USA blows them the fuck out into orbit.
We could spend 25% of our GDP on our military and Russia could still annihilate us with their thousands of nukes. There is literally nothing that can be done if Russia wanted to attack Europe and end the world in the process.
>>80385010
thx
>>80387836
No it was completely changed. You use to be able to get checks in he mail every month..Not anymore you have to be disabled or you get food stamps.
Google 90's militias if you want to know how close America was to a full on melt down in the 90's
>>80385450
Switzerland: officel 42-45h, reality 45h+ (normal worker) 4-5 weeks holiday, most swiss peoples are workoholic's. Most company increase 3h per week (without wage up) becaus of the siwssfrance vs. euro
>>80387287
>That is why I will continue to vote CSU, come what may.
Oh, you know very well what's coming, thanks in part to pathetic "Germans" like you. Put economy first, yes, put it first. Put it before anything and everything, it will do you good. Do as Mutti Merkel says, she knows best.
Your children will thank your generation for creating the multicultural paradise of the future, for creating a Germany which is vastly different from the Germany of the past thousand years. I'm sure the economy will still be great then though, so it's all good.
>>80388068
Most white people are workaholics
Half my white friends have hobbies that are work..Like fixing cars, woodworking, welding, messing with electronics (mostly build vape mods)
They work 50hrs a week and then work in there leisure time
>>80388134
>t. turd world shithole
Listen here you polack scum
We are the most powerful country on this planet, adn we use this power for good by helping people.
Empathy is something that only smart people have, it is a trait of high-IQ people.
So I guess some slavic subhuman doesn't udnerstand it.
Reminder that while you bark at us for being "le degenerate" we don't even acknowledge the existence of your pathetic shithole
Germany is the most powerful country in Europe, and it will stay this way thanks to Merkel's decisions.
Fucking kill yourself, subhuman
>>80372488
Germany just imported 1 million syrian doctors and engineers though, surely they will be working hard soon.
>>80372488
Know a group of retards from Greece who went to work in Germany. They were unskilled farmers from some shit island in Greece, they went as a group. They all worked there for about a decade. Asked a few of them how it was working in Germany, they all said it was ok, but there's a culture of racism. They said Germans were stuck on stupid, walk in 1 minute late and supervisors would hound you for 15minutes, like abuse, but they understood why, it's a factory so showing up on time was a must. They don't say it was horrid, just weird, guess culture clash of some sort and considering these people were from a small island I'd expect their experience would have been much worse, but it really wasn't.
In the end they saved up money and left after about 12yrs working there.
>>80387287
This. You have a VAT tax in Germany, it's basically on every consumer receipt.
>In Germany the amount paid for merchandise includes 19 % value added tax (VAT).
>>80385010
http://www.n-tv.de/wirtschaft/OECD-Arbeitslosigkeit-sinkt-nicht-weiter-article18143286.html
Deutschland glänzt im Vergleich
In Deutschland gibt es indes weniger Jugendliche, die weder in Beschäftigung, Bildung noch in Ausbildung sind, als in anderen OECD-Staaten. Der Anteil solcher junger Menschen zwischen 15 bis 29 Jahren sank zuletzt auf deutlich unter 5 Prozent.
Die seit 2009 positive Entwicklung auf dem deutschen Arbeitsmarkt habe sich zuletzt fortgesetzt, so die Experten. Die Beschäftigungsquote für die 15- bis 74-Jährigen werde im Laufe des Jahres 2016 voraussichtlich 65 Prozent überschreiten - der OECD-Durchschnitt liegt bei 60,5 Prozent. Die Arbeitslosigkeit ist mit 4,3 Prozent so niedrig wie seit 25 Jahren nicht mehr.
Der Anteil der Beschäftigten, die seit mindestens einem Jahr ohne Job sind, sei in den letzten acht Jahren beständig gefallen. Er liegt bei 1,9 Prozent. Im Gegensatz zu vielen anderen OECD-Ländern seien die Reallöhne in Deutschland seit 2011 deutlich gewachsen.
>>80388602
You're a nation of fucking idiots...How you can watch what happened in America, France and Sweden and then follow them down the same fucking rabbit hole is mind-boggling
Have some cold scientific facts
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221
>>80372488
>Now you know why Germany pay so much into the EU which in turn gets paid to Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltics, Hungary, Slovakia and the Balkans.
Yeah, and half of the money goes into corrupt politicians.
You guys think we are some kind of NEETs but in fact nobody gets shit.
Yes shit gets done but very slowly and at an extreme price.(We pay like 10x the money for a km of highway compared to Germany)
>>80388981
> NTV
In the past few decades, Malaysia went through significant population control. They initially tried to stem their population growth, but then started to encourage it. But the way they did it was by providing extremely high tax reductions for having kids. This ensured that only the richest malaysians were incentivized to breed.
If western countries merely adopted this policy, these countries wouldn't need to take in ANY immigrants.
>>80388134
>Put economy first, yes, put it first. Put it before anything and everything, it will do you good.
Yes, the economy comes first. Always. Alongside football.
>>80388134
>Your children will thank your generation for creating the multicultural paradise of the future
I don't have children. Only cruel idiots have children considering the Muslim invasion.
>>80372488
Sure robots are taking over. You guys over in Europe in general have high minimum wages and high social spending, driving up labor costs. Of course businesses are going to turn to capital investment over labor spending if the labor is more expensive than buying robots.
If you really want less automation and more labor then you need to make it more worth it for businesses to hire people, i.e. you need to make the cost of labor less than the cost of capital.
>>80388602
> We are the most powerful country on this planet, adn we use this power for good by helping people.
I kekd hard
>>80388988
Your highways were nice though, I was expecting dirt roads and shit highways, with gypsies on horse and carts. You Romanians make the place out to seem much worse than it is. Why?
>>80389140
They did this in Greece, didn't change a damn thing.
>>80388988
>We pay like 10x the money for a km of highway compared to Germany
That's nothing m8 we paid 6 times more for km comparing to Austria and they have to drill mountains to build roads.
>>80374970
Robot literally means 'slave'. It's ancient greek or latin, I think.
>>80389189
>>80373351
You summed it up well. I went to work there because my company asked for someone to move to their office in Hamburg. It payed well and I speak German so I applied for the job.
I liked the work environment: go there, do your work, go home. Also, not having to pretend you're the best friend of your boss is a huge relief.
But watching the sun going down at 4.30 pm and having all your conversations in German for 1 whole year is more than enough to drive any Spaniard crazy.
I don't discard going to that office again, but it won't be for so long.
>>80378657
I don't think so. Working in Spain comes with a whole bucket of bullshit you have to eat, taste and ask for more everyday. I liked working in Germany because I could focus on my own work, here I have to help everybody with their shit (the same shit again and again, they never learn) and see the more unskilled and useless having the most responsibility.
>>80373131
Marx wins by TKO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U06jlgpMtQs
>>80380481
can confirm, i will emigrate to NZ in the near future.
Fug, I have friends in Germany that I'd love to hang out with again. I'm just a car mechanic though, I have some dope certs but I don't know if that would be enough.
>>80389566
It's Czech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R.
>>80374970
I could actually see that happening if AI rights becomes a thing, and God help us if it ever does.
>>80375739
So importing millions from the 3rd world will fix that? heuehuehuuhe
BTW the study OP posted is retarded and the article even interprets the data wrong. It says that in the comming year, for every 125 workers 1 will be missing, so it´s not that bad. And they also expect that nothing is changing from the status quo in the next 17 years, no change in demographics and so on....
AS USUAL, JUST PROPAGANDA.
>cant find welding work here
>want to move to Germany if they really need skilled trades
>dont want to be caught in the race war muh guns
>>80372488
>highly skilled workers from Eastern Europe.
lol, what? Also, learning german as my 3rd foreign language. Maybe will come in handy one day, who knows :^)
>>80375481
This was attempted by the Roman Empire, to little avail.
The harsh reality is that if degeneracy is an option in a comfortable society, most will opt out of any work they don't need to do.
Sadly children, to many, fall squarely in the "more work i don't want to do" category
>>80389801
One of few countries worth considering imo.
A friend of mine went there after university and i get the feeling he might be staying.
So... Why would you import rapefugees at all?
To have the highly trained immigrant pay their welfare, while their women get raped?
>>80388726
german doctors work almost for free in switzerland xD Economy wont pay more for work, so they let veterinarian from syria have the job done
>>80388531
As system engineer, i do woodworking or build somthing in my backyard, easy work is like a drug for my brain.
To fix the western problem, japan must speed up with a robo wife solution, who can set on pregnantmodus. No childsupport, no stress, cheaper than real woman, upgradable...
>>80372488
Gee, let's hope they don't do anything to make Germany less attractive to highly skilled workers.
Like filling the country with barely-litterate, welfare sucking refugees.
RIP Germoney
>>80377697
They print it off and then pay people to put out propaganda that the money they conjured from thin air is actually good and that it will eventually trickle down.
>>80372828
Billionaires will have to... have to.. r-raise the wages !!
VADE RETRO POPULIST !!
>>80376288
>Only Women and children are allowed to stay
Who will then be raped and indoctrinated before being sent back as subversive elements.
At least, in theory.
>>80390928
Because of Germany's suicidal self-loathing and desperate obsession with proving they're not nazis.
They will fuck themselves over just to prove how non-racist and "tolerant" they are.
>>80391838
And who made them be that way?
>>80391838
>Because of Germany's suicidal self-loathing and desperate obsession with proving they're not nazis.
Germans aren't Nazis. The good one's died in battle.
----
„Wenn der Krieg verloren geht, wird auch das Volk verloren sein. […] Es sei nicht notwendig, auf die Grundlagen, die das Volk zu seinem primitivsten Weiterleben braucht, Rücksicht zu nehmen. Im Gegenteil sei es besser, selbst diese Dinge zu zerstören. Denn das Volk hätte sich als das schwächere erwiesen und dem stärkeren Ostvolk gehöre dann ausschließlich die Zukunft. Was nach dem Kampf übrigbliebe, seien ohnehin nur die Minderwertigen; denn die Guten seien gefallen.“
--- March 18, 1945, Adolf Hitler
"If the war is lost, the people will also be lost. It isn't necessary to take any consideration for the basic resources the people need to survive. Quite on the contrary, it is better to destroy these resources ourselves. Because the German people has ended up being the weaker race, and the more powerful eastern race of people now deserves to dominate the future - exclusively dominate it. Whoever survives this fight are only the degenerate, ... because all the good people have fallen."
>>80372488
>Now you know why Germany pay so much into the EU which in turn gets paid to Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltics, Hungary, Slovakia and the Balkans.
>This is also why Germany pushes for an expansion of the EU incorporating Ukraine, Moldova and Belarus. They have young white skilled workers who will be more than willing to come to Germany and wörk wörk wörk
Why do that when they don't have to pay anything and can get tens of millions of Africans and Middle Easterners
>>80372488
Man why does the globalist hate white people so damn much. This is literally retarded. Even if niggers and most shitskins are easier to control they suck at making money. Plus they are more violent than anything. I don't even globalist realize that once a white population is gone so is civilization. I guess then they'll just move on to the Chinese.
german tv live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lmM6zgL2AU&index=43&list=PLU12uITxBEPHSMyieyaCTm3Tug3B1x0by
>>80393130
It's probably revenge for the holocaust.
>>80393016
>Why do that when they don't have to pay anything and can get tens of millions of Africans and Middle Easterners
The industry wants skilled workers for low pay. The minimum wage is 8.50 Euros. They don't want no unskilled Africa for 8.50 Euros, they want a skilled Ukrainian or Romanian or Pole for 8.50 Euros per hour.
That is why Africans and Middle Easterners have a 85% unemployment rate in Germany.
>>80393130
You forgot the ((())) around globalists.
If you had remembered them, the answer would have been more apparent to you.
Always remember the ((())).
>>80385010
ab 19:30, darum haben die Schweizer Deutsche nicht gerne... Wird wohl aber ein Europa weites Problem sein ;^)
>>80372488
Have fun with your collapse into muslim infested hell.
>>80387037
Nope, just dropped below 100k last month.
>>80393900
Probably because they migrated.
>>80372488
I'm sure once Britain goes full Hitler on their Polish population you're going to get plenty of new workers.
Jokes aside, I kinda thought about migrating to Germany to work mostly because it's close to Poland, and I'd like to visit my family sometimes. How are Poles viewed over there?
>>80374676
This!
10 years ago Germany was "the sick man of Europe" and we had high unemployment and lots of financial problems. Now it's the other way round and in 10 years (when the EU is kill) it will be different again.
Economists who predict things more than 10-15 years into the future are scammers.
>>80372488
So when should i move?
>>80394125
>How are Poles viewed over there?
Poles just don't show up in the general population any more. The whole immigration issue is about Romanian gypsies, Muslims from the Middle East, Africans and the Afghans and Pakis.
The jokes about Poles have died down since we have imported all the shittiers of the world.
Full disclosure: my ex-gf is Polish (economics graduate from Warsaw).
>>80382963
Of course he was right.
>>80375647
kys antifaggot
http://m.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article156905294/Unter-einer-Bedingung-koennen-abgelehnte-Asylbewerber-bleiben.html
even rejected asylum seeker aren't going back. the political class have told nothing but lies
>>80377499
>This is what you get for not wanting to work faggots.
coming from the laziest piece of shit on this planet
>>80394436
Just stay where you are Germany will become a caliphate.
>>80375519
thank your great-uncle for such buildings Nigel.
They were cost efficient, and quick to build.
And after a war nobody cares about astehtics
>>80394753
>even rejected asylum seeker aren't going back. the political class have told nothing but lies
Ok, who cares anyway? Germany would have become a Muslim caliphate regardless of the recent influx of people. So it really doesn't fucking matter.
>>80393545
> .. they want a skilled Ukrainian or Romanian or Pole for 8.50 Euros per hour
on what planet ???
inb4 eastern country use the monies to educate their engineers. Then keep them to themselves.
mfw Romania now imports cheap German labor.
