Scots, leave the Isle of Pakistan and come home!
Come home, white man
>>78825821
kek britain is so fucked
>>78825821
I agree, they'll feel right at home at the Continent of Turkey
Scotland has always had closer historical ties to Europe then England
would not be surprised if they broke away from the UK and joined the EU
m8...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VJyKRwQHHM
>>78826912
They should be welcomed with open arms.
>>78825821
Good, you can keep them. If they're as unappreciative of you as they are of us, you'll regret it.
>>78825821
merklebot damage control in full effect
>>78827350
>If they're as unappreciative of you
What exactly have you done for them?
You've been oppressing them for centuries.
>>78825821
>Isle of Pakistan
Germany, are you aware of your current situation?
>>78827982
>Free university
>Better NHS
>About £3000 per person more in public spending than people in the south east
>>78828276
All thanks to benefiting from being in the EU (apart from the NHS, that shit is an embarrassment for a 1st world country and the Tories are solely to blame for that).
And now you've taken that away from them.
>>78828523
>All thanks to benefiting from being in the EU
>All thanks to spending from the EU that originated from the UK in the first place
Really, kraut
>>78828795
You've conveniently left out the easier access to massive markets with extremely low barriers, access to cheap labor, being in a position to easily attract highly-skilled talent, this all added to the economic growth.
But sure, keep playing the old debunked "omg we're paying more than we're getting OUTRAGE" card.
Nah, lets crash this union. We started it, we put an end to it.
>>78829045
If the talent was actually highly skilled, visas aren't a problem.
>Economic growth
lmao
Whats this got to do with public spending allowance, by the way? Seems like you just wanted to dodge the question entirely. Nice job Muhammad.
>>78829267
The EU will never crash. It's forever.
>>78828159
Are you aware of ours? We are gonna be Pakistan v2 without the EU
>>78829287
>I'll dismiss economic growth because I hate evidence that the EU was good for us
lmao
>>78825821
FUCK OFF WITH YOUR DIVIDE AND CONQUER TACTICS KRAUT.
FUCK OFF.....YOUR PLANS FAILED ONCE AGAIN.
>>78829882
This. Pretty much the majority of MUH EMPIRE /pol/ retards.
Hope you all enjoy becoming United Kingdom of mudslimistan
>Scotland butthurted forces a second referendum asap
>get independance
>get more butthurted because EU forces them to apply to get in the EU
>their case is very hard to defend since they have debts, they want to be in the EU only to recieve their yuromonies; they rely only on oil and nothing else
>Spain and Belgium apply their veto to prevent Catalonia and Flander to force independance too
>Scotland's ass on fire
>Putin laughing in the distance
>Price of the barrel of oil drops
>Scotland in huge debts, no more money income, bankruptcy is near and neither EU or UK is here to feed them with cash
>One year after the referendum Scotland begs the queen to re-enter the Union
>The queen reject their demand
>Scotland assblasted for centuries
>"but we wuz independant n sheit"
>Straya bringing the bantz as we observe Scotland becoming even poorer than Best Korea with a suicide rate higher than in Finland
>>78829599
Not if we, Denmark and probably Finland do what we have to do in the next 5 years.
>>78827203
The eternal kraut is happy with this.
You know the Scottish nationalist party supported the nazis...
>>78825821
Never.
>>78830198
>You know the Scottish nationalist party supported the nazis...
In 2016, this MEANS something.
>>78829045
All that we have in NAFTA as well.
Yet there is no north American assembly in Washington where Americans dictate my countries policy. Nor do i have to pay fucking taxes to the united states.
Free trade can exist without the EU.
>>78825821
They're busy voting in Pakistani's into their 'NAtional' party.
I hope you guys realize that this is yet another fearmongering tactic to get the UK to ignore the referendum
>>78830272
Did you just go current year on me Hans? Because you just agreed with >>78826912 that it was good that Scotland has historical ties.
One of them being supporting the nazis.
>>78825821
So, No Muslims or Muslims
Tough fucking choice, Muhammad
nah fuck off m80
>>78825821
>the Union of European Socialist Republics
>home of the white man
hilarious
>>78825821
Hey! Let's not forget about London. It does have after all, like, twice the population of Scotland after all.
Then the Englanders can sit alone in the corner and enjoy their fish which they like so much. (right before the stocks run out)
>>78830407
Yup. This is pure divide and conquer tactics.
>>78826912
>>78827203
>>78830198
The EU told Sturgeon they can't keep eu membership and will have to reapply. They never said the application would be successful. Also the SNP is losing ground to Davidson and the tories.
t.scot
>>78830389
>Yet there is no north American assembly in Washington where Americans dictate my countries policy
One of the biggest lies of Leave was stating how Brussels controls the members of the EU. This is absurd. Most laws governing the members originated in the nation's parliaments.
Have you ever wondered how Poland, Hungary and pretty much the rest of the members were able to reject taking in refugees with impunity? Does this sound like "OMG BRUSSELS CONTROLS US ALL" to you?
You are a fucking retard for swallowing that lie.
>>78828276
All subsidised by England. Let them go and in a few years they would be another Greece.
>>78830735
>the SNP is losing ground to Davidson and the tories
epic meme friend
The only ground they've lost is to the Greens on the left.
>>78828795
>All thanks to spending from the EU that originated from the UK in the first place
reminder that even Italy was a bigger contributor to the EU than the "united" kingdom, also bigger leeches but hey nobody's perfect
>>78829991
>freedom ends where my feelings begin
someone got triggered? :^)
>>78830419
>Because you just agreed with
I didn't. What I said was, they should be welcomed with open arms.
Agreeing with someone would have sounded differently. I probably would have said something along the lines of, dunno, "I agree".
Now, you'll find that "They should be welcomed with open arms" sounds nothing like "I agree".
Reading comprehension is key.
>>78830198
Half of the people they accuse of being nazis were closer to fucking stalinists.
One guy saying they may have to go quisling is hardly the backing of the entire party. He was first and foremost of the view the conflict wasn't his problem.
Furthemore, given the UK had their own "fuck it, if necessary we can let Scotland fall" defence plans. it's hardly an unreasonable position. The UK was content to fuck Scotland. If it was coming to a hypothetical in which Germany could get into mainland Britain reliably, the most rational option is to turn to protecting your own nationhood instead of going down with the ship.
>>78830737
Are you saying that the EU cannot make laws that its members must follow?
>>78830861
SNP is going to hit a flashpoint in the next few months, Scots are angry as fuck and don't forget a third voted leave. That third plus unionists tip the balance well in the tories favour.
>>78825821
you can have them, hope you don't mind shelling out a few billion more to stop them collapsing hans! it might hurt your wallet a bit with all the other problems you're having and if you want the EU to hold together, but you're a big strong country so i'm sure you'll manage, friend.
>>78830552
this could have destoryed her shity narrative.
>>78831454
>a third who voted leave are going to vote for the Tories under Ruth-Davidson, a relentlessly pro-EU leader.
Eric.
>>78830737
You're fucking lying. As always Europhile krauts are the first ones to defend their neo-soviet project.
45% of British law is made by Brussels. This is a fact.
>>78831586
i vote for my UKIP guy even though he will never win
>>78830737
Any policy, no matter how small, that is passed by votes that are cast by non british citizens, or a nonbritish regulatory board should have zero impact on The united kingdom and vice versa. Even if it's as small as regulation on pillowcases, it grossly undermines sovereignty. If British Parliament has no act to protect bats, any brit should be able to shoot the shit out of them.
I mean ffs, there have been a lot of times in Canada's path to true independence that we pretty much, mostly had our own power. But people still woukd think your an idiot for being against seizing it. Ubited kingdom, probably wont make us go to war, the Queen probably won't veto any legislation, the uk won't change our constiution without our permission anyway, were not valid arguments for letting the UK have our balls in a sling.
Why should the same apply to UK?
NAFTA, the EC yadda yadda, show that realistically they won't lose any of the pros, unless the EU actively takes a hit to both economies to send a messege, which would be a great argument for fuck the EU.
>>78831629
and 99% of that 45% is menial shit that has next to no consequences for your average joe's life
>>78831378
No, what I'm saying is
>the vast majority of matters are left to the states themselves and
>the EU parliament literally consists of representatives of literally every EU member, stating they have no say in what laws get passed is highly insincere.
Most of the laws that do originate in Brussels and do affect sovereignty of the states concern trade and the distribution of funds.
>>78831454
It was more like 1/4 of eligible voters desu
Still the SNP have no mandate for a Scottish referendum at a time when the country needs to be united in going forward with Brexit.
>>78831808
Menial shit that wrecks our economies with shit regulation that some fat cunt in an Brussels office drew up after Lunch with a kike CEO of a business that is too big to fail.
It might be menial shit to you but it all adds up.
>>78831629
>45% of British law is made by Brussels. This is a fact.
Source. While you're at it, look up which areas those laws touch.
>>78831836
>the SNP have no mandate for a Scottish referendum
>Winning the election with a manifesto commitment to a referendum in this exact circumstance doesn't constitute a mandate.
>b-but muh no majority
>The Green party being in favour doesn't constitute a mandate.
If you believe Scotland genuinely wants to stay in the UK there is nothing to fear from a second referendum. If you believe Scotland wants to leave the UK and thus try to prevent a referendum, it is laughable to talk of a mandate.
"Everybody gets two chances" is a good rule of thumb for referendums. If the SNP lose this one, that's it.
Quebec had two, failed twice, never heard of it again. Britain had two on the EU/EEC, one remain and one leave. Leave won.
>>78832157
The mandate is in the question.
The question the referendum asked was "Do you want scotland to be independent"
This means they could either be in the EU or outside as they would have to reapply.
The country has already been asked this question.
>>78832093
even a single law being dictated by the EU is too many, considering the people doing the dictating were not elected by us and are invariably globalists.
cry all you want ahmed, what's done is done, the EU is going to collapse and you'd better hope your government is competent enough that your country can weather the storm.
>>78832355
>The country has already been asked this question.
And the circumstances have changed. Better Together went too far and decided to push hard on "You won't get into the EU :^)" and now they have to live with the consequences.
If people were dead set against another referendum, the SNP would have lost the election Ruth Davidson's no surrender to a second referendum party.
If people wanted a yearly referendum even though they always wanted to vote no, and they elected the SNP on a policy of holding constant referendums, there would be a mandate there from the electorate.
>>78832397
>even a single law being dictated by the EU is too many
What a beautiful analogy and argument for Scotland's immediate secession. Thanks!
>>78832618
Yes I agree with the scare mongering about the EU.
But what does this amount to, the SNP will be fighting for Scotland to join the EU after they voted independence just like they did in 2014.
I do not see how the circumstances have changed, truth is, they haven't.
>>78830406
>Half Scottish, half indian guy identifying with his Scottish side.
Welp, enjoy sharia while we have selective immigration.
>>78832677
>implying i don't want scotland to leave
i want nothing more than to watch scotland join the EU, be forced to adopt the euro and then be dragged down into hell with you as ivan invades and rapes all your wives, again, while ahmed rapes your daughters. nothing would make me happier than watching you suffer for the role you've had in destroying europe for the third time.
>>78825821
Please tell me you see the irony in your statement.
>>78832903
>I do not see how the circumstances have changed,
"Vote No to Scottish independence and you get to stay in the EU"
[Scotland votes no.]
[Britain holds a referendum on the EU, in which it votes to leave but Scotland votes to stay.]
Now the only way to stay in the EU is Scottish independence.
But even then, even if this didn't create some kind of legitimate moral mandate [i.e. "Scots don't really care about the EU"] it was explicitly in the manifesto of the party which won the Holyrood election, which has the parliamentary capability to put it through [either with Green backing or Green abstention.]
>>78832677
I was actually hoping they would leave in the last referendum, but they lack the balls.
If Scotland left the UK we would never again have a leftist government with a majority in Westminster. Can you imagine how glorious that would be?
I feel sad for N. Ireland leaving because they're the most red-pilled of all countries but if that's the price we have to pay so be it.
>>78833051
>be forced to adopt the euro
This cannot happen.
To join the Euro one must first join ERM2. Scotland [and Britain] don't even qualify for the ERM2 criteria. Joining ERM2 is voluntary [Sweden, for example, remains out of the Euro by refusing to join ERM2] and Scotland is the same.
Even if Scotland wanted the Euro, it couldn't have it. It doesn't meet the convergence criteria.
>>78833196
>we would never again have a leftist government with a majority in Westminster. Can you imagine how glorious that would be?
Why, yes I can. I need only look to the NHS to see how that would play out. Nice going, conservatives.
>>78833196
>we would never again have a leftist government with a majority in Westminster
simply eric
>>78833176
Holyrood can vote on it but they don't have the ability to call a referendum.
Honestly if Scots want to become a combination of Sweden and Greece inside the EU, I say let them but can they keep the chimping out under wraps until we officially get Brexit from the British parliament. All this unnecessary division will harm our negotiating stance in the long run.
>>78833051
>Divide and conquer.
Seriously, you Englanders sound like SNP shills.
>>78833344
>a country the size of yorkshire is surprised they dont have voting power the size of england
What retard made this image, it is simply ebin.
>>78833641
>a country the size of yorkshire
A country, yes. You said it yourself. They should have full sovereignty.
>>78833641
Scotland is a nation. Yorkshire is not.
Nations shouldn't be held to the whim of other nations. That would almost be the crux of the Brexit argument.
>>78833754
They didn't want it though, the cucks
>>78833196
Scotland doesn't have the numbers to properly effect shit. You sound like the SNP's but with England replaced with Scotland.
>>78833344
According to your own chart they have tipped the balance in no less than 3 occasions. 3 too many for a country with less than 8% of the UK population.
And one of the Labour governments elected thanks to the Scottish vote has been the most destructive Britain has ever seen.
Also don't forget how a lot of the left wing governments would have a fragile majority that would make it harder for them to push through their bullshit.
>>78831629
I live right next to Hungary I saw the fences. They said fuck you to the EU immigration policy and pretty much got away scot free.
>>78833784
>>78833754
Do you retards realise the United Kingdom and the EU are entirely different federations.
One has lasted for 300 years while the other is about to collapse under its own hubris.
>>78833870
>They didn't want it though, the cucks
They wanted it, but were mislead to believe the only way of being part of the EU is voting against the referendum.
Now Cameron and Farage fucked them over.
Circumstances have changed, necessitating a new referendum.
>>78833956
>the most destructive Britain has ever seen.
I hope to fuck you're not referring to 1974a. [Both because it barely lasted and then got a majority in England, and because that government inherited dire economic circumstances.]
>>78834017
The UK isn't a federation at all. It's a unitary state with some devolutionary jiggerypokery.
>>78833324
>Why, yes I can. I need only look to the NHS to see how that would play out. Nice going, conservatives.
How about you buy less weed or cuck porn and pay for your own health insurance, faggot? Getting rid of the NHS would be the best thing ever. Oh no, that would be an absurd idea for you. That's why Scotland belongs with you in Europe.
>>78834197
I was calling the UK a federation for the sake of argument because Hans McSauerkraut over here >>78834096 seems to believe we're like a mini united states.
>>78832677
Scot here. fuck off kraut.
i voted leave and ill vote to stay in the UK.
>>78825821
Scotland bitches and moans like a drunk man at the pub, but like that drunk man, at the end of the day they do nothing but go home so they can wake up and bitch and moan at the pub to anyone who will listen.
What's with all the German anti-Brexit shilling today?
It feels weird.
Brits wanted out, why not just let them?
>>78834396
You're literally Yugoslavia. Except you had all the old faggots die the fuck out so they couldn't flame the independence flames.
Because when you made the UK you could genocide and silence the scots for good.
>>78834096
The EU will never, ever accept Scotland, because accepting Scotland would be to accept Catalonia,and the EU knows this.
They have to leave outright, at which point they can re-apply, be vetoed by spain, and then have to make it alone in the world with a 10% GDP budget deficit and a falling oil price.
Good luck selling that to your voters, SNP, good luck telling them you'll need crippling austerity after you promised leaving would mean less austerity.
>>78834512
Yes, I thought the Germans were happy to see us leave because we've always been halfway inside the door.
>>78834459
>"I think SNP mp is the entire voice for Scotland" the post.
>>78834613
>because accepting Scotland would be to accept Catalonia,and the EU knows this.
You can easily make the case that Scotland is unique until Spain tries to leave the EU. This also weakens any anti-EU forces in Spain, a win-win for the EU.
>falling oil price.
Fallen. The price is now relatively stable.
>>78834649
That's not true. We always had good relations, so it's sad that you end all that now.
But the people have spoken and all this shilling won't change it back. It just leaves the impression that maybe we've tried to influence you too much and just can't stop doing that.
>>78834564
And then we ruled half the world?
The scots weren't complaining when we made them rich. Yugoslavia also collapsed due to EU meddling as well.
>>78834950
>The scots weren't complaining when we made them rich
That's why Scotland's national poet was bemoaning a parcel of rogues, and a Scottish Parliament in 1914 was held off only by WW1.
Because Scotland are traditionally quiet.
>>78834949
And we'll continue to have good relations if you want access to our large customer economy.
Alls well that ends well eh?
![I-am-not-saying[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5dFcfdr.jpg "I-am-not-saying[1].jpg")
>>78834512
Remember that the EU hired many, many shills for its cause
then remember the instability this has caused in the UK
and then think about how a unstable, doubtful Britain would negotiate with the EU compared to a strong, sure one.
Think about how we'd deal with common market negotiations thinking Scotland might leave if we don't bend over backwards to get into the market, compared to how we'd deal with those negotiations knowing that the EU has already said "you can't join" to scotland
I'm not saying they're shills sewing discord, but...
>>78835184
The Scots will get goyed royally if they think the EU is a better setup than the UK.
desu you would have to be retarded to leave this union, Scotland has received so much benefit from the English tax payer, they would be willingly committing suicide unlike Britain leaving the EU, we can actually take on any short term economic issues that have risen.
>>78834512
>shilling
Just kill yourself you dumb cunt
>>78835184
The SNP will agitate even if the UK is heading into the market outright.
They're making it about the EU, even if all practical concerns are allayed by the market.
>>78835462
i love u
i dont want to be taken away from u
>>78835141
I think so, reason would dictate a sensible new relationship.
But there's also those miffed politicians in Brussels who want to see you punished to deter other members. I think Juncker said "deserters will not be treated kindly".
I just hope that as a lesson of the Brexit EU will lose part of its power to regulate every aspect of our lives, from the curvature of bananas to the banning of vacuum cleaners. It feels as if you're a grown up, and somebody forbids you to play with scissors.
>>78830135
>>Spain and Belgium apply their veto to prevent Catalonia and Flander to force independance too
yeah no won't happen. Both countries are too dependent on EU monies
>>78827203
Scotland is a black hole of debt and yearly deficits. There's no way the EU would take them without decades of economic growth.
It also doesn't help that the Scottish people are retarded.
Why are they so mad about losing the 10% of their budget given to them by the EU that they're willing to cut away from the 90% of their budget given to them by the British government?
Their population is fucking nothing. Without our taxpayer's money, they would literally have to pay a flat rate of 60% income tax to run the country anywhere near how it's currently run.
t. another poster
>>78835659
Don't worry anon, they'll lose the referendum again if it comes down to it.
Hopefully then they'll finally shut the fuck up.
>>78825821
>https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/economy/government-borrowing/news/73097/ifs-scottish-budget-deficit-worse-previously-thought
kek, have them
>>78835866
WE CANT TAKE THAT CHANCE
>>78835462
>Scotland has received so much benefit from the English tax payer
You royally shafted us when north sea oil was discovered.
Scotland would have been the second richest country in Europe [after Norway] had it left in the 70s.
>but oil will run out!
Yes, that's why Norway has a fucking huge oil fund to deal with that.
>but oil is cheap now and Scotland is past peak production!
We should never forget that you knew how rich we could have been, you knew the value of our resources and you continued to deride the SNP as using "fantastic" figures for oil revenue when the reality was the only problem with their figures is that they were less than half of the actual revenue.
>>78830737
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36202490
You should get your sisters and daughters inside the house Hans, it's getting late :^)
>>78836109
Its not our oil. its the whole UKs oil
and its crashed.
>EU
>white
>>78835866
Finally someone who isn't bitter and sounds like a SNP shill pretending to be English.
Hopefully we can come together again and make "British Empire 2 : Electric Boogaloo".
>>78836281
>its the whole UKs oil
Because we aren't independent.
International law dictates it's off our coast and in our waters.
Furthermore, the UK already sub-divides the UK's waters so that organizations like the Scottish EPA know what their jurisdiction is and where Scottish law applies.
>>78830135
damn scots deserve it
>>78827063
Kek
>>78836438
i dont want to be independant. i just want master to be free.
>>78836001
Yes we can. I was bricking it in 2014. But that was their only real chance, the stars will not align again for independence.
We don't even need to just highlight Britain's strengths. This time the EU is weaker than ever.
>>78836109
I wish that oil was never found, stupid scots too concerned with seeing dollar signs than the implications of leaving the union.
By the way there's more oil under gatwick than the entire north sea, I suppose we shouldn't use that money to help Scotland cope with the oil price. (I live in Aberdeen by the way, the crash has had an enormous effect on the local community)
>>78836371
Shouldn't have to say this but I will since there's so much anti-Scottish sentiment on /pol/
Scotland is the Britain of Britain. It has historically performed disproportionately to its size in the areas of military, philosophy and science. The politics of the last 30 years should not determine our attitude to a nation that's been a boon for the past 300.
I'm enjoying the taste of all these salty fucking germancuck tears.
>>78836592
i dread to let them have another chnace
>>78836603
>I suppose we shouldn't use that money to help Scotland cope with the oil price.
They're not going to do it anyway.
Even if they do extract it [I don't bloody think the posh-twats living nearby will allow it!] it's not going to Aberdeen. You've been sucked dry, now you're going to be left to die.
You didn't seriously believe the UK was going to come to your aid when the oil went away did you? That's precious.
>>78836658
This. Absolutely this
>>78836658
>so much anti-Scottish sentiment on /pol/
because we are annoying. just sit down and be british
>>78836371
Man, thistle sure is an ugly plant.
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/eu-presidency-due-to-rotate-to-uk-in-2017-1.2698739
Mods need to ban this retarded German, Brussels has already said no to Nicola Sturgeon and a constitutional lawyer has already sat down with Scottish Conservatives and told them that they cannot have another referendum on independence.
End of discussion. Make this thread again, by all means keep making it, it will not change the facts you retarded cunt.
>Scotland joins the EU
>refugees flood into kiltland
>England hasn't set up a decent border
>England now has more refugees than the EU countries
>>78836658
Both England and Scotland have out performed themselves for their size.
Who would of known that both of them could create the biggest empire of all.
It's sad that SNP managed to make their way into Holyrood and could bring back relations by hundreds of years.
>>78836658
That Scotland is gone now man, the Scotland of Adam Smith and Alexander Flemming is gone.
Now it's just gibsmedats and stupid fucking nationalists who've seen Braveheart too many times.
>>78837139
>they cannot have another referendum on independence.
That's not what they said at all.
They said the Scottish parliament cannot prevent Brexit. Which is true, due to the fact Westminster can overrule it because of [Westminster] parliamentary sovereignty.
>>78837148
>Britain leaves the EU
>Scotland leaves the UK
>Britain wants to deport immigrants
>Scotland says they love immigrants so they take them
>Scotland becomes Sharia Socialist Republic of Jockistan in under 5 years
>England laughs maniacally at their idiocy.
>>78837038
Being American I thought you would like the most "no stebbin on snek" like of the plants.
>>78825821
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE ISLE OF MAN ?
Will this affect them in anyway ?
>>78837402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7fUBJXn8JM
you cant let them overflow
>>78837402
>Scotland says they love immigrants so they take them
kek no.
Scotland is the kind of country that takes 10 refugees, celebrates how kind they are, then closes the border and stops answering the phone.
Scotland is ~96% white, well above England.
>>78837541
WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE FALKLANDS
THOSE ARGENTINES BETTER NOT BE GETTING BRAVE
>>78837371
You do realise that Westminster allowed Scotland to have a referendum in the first place and CamCam has already refused to give them a second one.
But you're right, I got it confused it was that Ruth Davis (the dyke, typical Scottish woman) that sat with the lawyers about the blocking of Brexit so I amend my previous statement.
>>78837642
we scots arent white.
>>78837712
>You do realise that Westminster allowed Scotland to have a referendum in the first place
Yes. I also realize it would be a very bad idea to refuse one if the Scottish parliament backed it. Especially if this was concurrent with EU negotiations.
>CamCam has already refused to give them a second one.
The man who's leaving, and who explicitly mentioned the possibility during his EU fearmongerthon?
I think we'll be alright.
>>78837642
Once they are full EU their will be no closing the borders to all the tanned Germans.
>>78837943
Scots aren't having another indyref.
Get over it.
>>78838083
They currently have open borders.
Nobody wants to move to a freezing land of rain, cold and Scots.
>>78838115
We'll see. We'll see. :^)
Thing is if the UK allows another Scotland referendum during the EU negotiations why can't the remaniacs demand another referendum on EU membership?
>>78838181
We won't.
Majority will tell Nicola to stop having a tantrum and deal with it like the rest of us.
We understand that it was a once in a life-time thing.
>>78838225
>why can't the remaniacs demand another referendum on EU membership?
They can.
They then need to win a parliamentary majority of MPs supporting that, which is much more difficult.
>>78838181
If you lose again will you finally shut the fuck up like the frogs in Canada?
>>78838365
>Majority will tell Nicola to stop having a tantrum and deal with it like the rest of us.
Majority of what? People?
The polls are in her favour, both to have it and to win. Even if she doesn't win, the prospect of a second one within 10 years is almost certain.
>>78838430
That is traditionally how things go.
>>78829803
The EU caused this problem. How are you this disconnected from reality?
>>78838519
>The polls are in her favour,
>"What is the previous Scottish inref?"
Polls don't mean shit.
>>78838519
If she doesn't win this time, surely the SNP has no mandate?
>Scotland leaves the UK
>joins the EU
>tfw we build a brand new hadrians wall
Stay out you savages.
>>78838662
>What is the previous Scottish inref?"
You mean that one where a single credible poll predicted a margin-of-error win for Yes, in a sea of credible polls that got the result right?
>>78838674
If she doesn't win the referendum? They'll probably press onward after Sturgeon resigns. They were elected on more than the promise of a referendum.
Dear kek. as a Scot whos country is being ruined by Separatist leftists. please strike them down in nuclear fire and save the Loyal Unionist Scots
>>78830552
Oh, slim majority's don't matter? Guess Brexit isn't happening then!
Not going to happen.
>>78838945
>Look here is an Exception, therefore you entire thing is false.
>>78825821
>Germoney
>White
>>78839144
fuck off paddy. honestly the thing i hate about you cunts is you try to wiggle in and act like we are friends
fuck you. i prefer the english
>>78839187
What?
My point is that the polls were in her favour to hold a referendum now.
I presumed your point was that polls were "inaccurately" predicting independence last time, while the polls were overwhelmingly accurate.
With the implication the polls are accurate now.
>>78830737
Rule
Of
Law
>>78838977
Don't invoke kek m8, he'll send Edward Longshanks with a skeleton army of dead english soldiers to fuck up and rape Scotland again.
>>78825821
>Unironically trying to steal British clay
You are going to get rekt and I will be lying in the beach laughing
>>78825821
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20160623IPR33673/European-travel-document-MEPs-and-ministers-strike-informal-deal
Top lel.
Why are the Scots such insufferable cucks? Will Scotland ever become an independent nation? Why leave one Union for another, larger union where you'll have a smaller voice?
If you're going to vote to leave the U.K., then become an independent country!
Stop thinking to yourselves that you need other people to manage your country for you.
Are there any Scots who want to leave the U.K., but NOT join the EU?
>>78829991
>implying these ENGLISH SPEAKERS are actual germans and not EU reliant trans-national fucking scum
"omg how can i stay in germany if the eu falls apart.....muh eu passport....omg britian stop it my fucking rat jewish existence can't be threatened! "
>>78839418
Scotland is not Scotland- the anglos got rid of the scots a long time ago.
Look at those * scottish leaders * I've seen fucking metis scots here that look more celtic scottish than them
>>78839439
I'm German and I have the poop porn collection to prove it.
>>78839318
>getting this triggered
>>78839365
Seriously if you haven't read this you actually need to and any cuckold Scots wanting an indy ref and hoping to join the EU?
It'll make you think twice.
Look at it, fucking read it and see.
>>78838537
the EU caused migration from former UK colonies?
>>78839144
>slim majority
yeah, cause brexit was 50.1 to 49.9, just like in this case
>>78837702
PLEASE DON'T TAKE MUH MOTORBIKE RACES AWAY I NEEDS THEM TO WATCH SUB TITLED INTERVIEWS OF GUY MARTIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK HE'S SAYING
>>78839329
I was just stating that polls have a large chance of being wrong.
I was using the previous indyref as a reference to how many scots are loyalists and would most likely vote the same again.
Anyway the referendum was a once in a lifetime deal and will never be held again in a long time. Simple as that, no if but or no.
>>78825821
They would have to reapply and would probably not be admitted
>>78825821
>Isle of Pakistan
I wonder. Brits literally created Pakistan. Now they run the risk of being overrun by their creation. Is this poetic justice or what?
>>78839670
I thought a simple majority was all that was needed? Is 50.1% a simple majority or not?
Pol! pls save hungarys ass with meme magic against belgium! I dont care if they are beaten by any other team, just not the fucking migrant petters
>>78839644
You mean threatening us and other nations with sanctions for not allowing ficki ficki quotas?
Italy you should know better, but alas you still support the EU. You still enable it, even with the recent deal to create migrant passports for ficki ficki and allow them to spread all over the EU.
Stupid nation you are Italy, you always have been and you always will be.
Stupid, stupid, stupid!
>>78839418
>Why leave one Union for another, larger union where you'll have a smaller voice?
The EU and UK are not similar unions.
If Scotland wants to leave the UK, it has to ask London. [Capital of the UK] Not Edinburgh. [Capital of Scotland.]
If the UK wants to leave the EU, it asks London. [Capital of the UK, i.e. itself.] Not Brussels. [Capital of the EU.]
>Are there any Scots who want to leave the U.K., but NOT join the EU?
A lot.
>>78839996
We have more Indians here than Pakistani's.
Germany has more Muslims than we do and so does France.
Also
>India
Piss off street shitter.
>>78830135
>Putin laughing in the distance
Kek'd hard
>>78839596
Bet you're clenching that EU passport son * I need the EU or my place here is uncertain... *
>>78839781
>I was using the previous indyref as a reference to how many scots are loyalists and would most likely vote the same again.
I have doubts. A swing from 30% independence support to 45% is something radical.
>once in a lifetime deal
Bugger off. People who were alive in the 1975 EEC referendum got another go in their lifetime. Quebec, similarly, had two goes within one lifetime.
If people elect a government with a manifesto to hold a referendum [shock, they have!] then that referendum need not be once in a lifetime.
>>78840071
>You mean threatening us and other nations
what the hell do boat migrants from Syria have to do with work migrants from Pakistan? You were begging for Pakis before the EU and you'll beg for them after exiting
>>78825821
FUCK OFF KRAUT! THE EU HAS SAID NO! AND WE WILL SUPPORT NEXIT GREXIT AND FREXIT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO RUN! HAHAAHHAHA
Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.
>>78839340
I INVOKE KEK
Magic
>>78827063
i was the one who made that original EU meme
that is pure shit
and btw scotland have been turned down..they aint going anywere LOL
>>78830135
Pierre has seen into the future, and it's full of English keks.
No thanks, We either remain outside the EU in the UK, or we leave the UK and do not continue with our EU membership.
Independent, but still in the EU would be a complete disaster, there's no support for it.
>>78825821
Enjoy the Euro you traitorous cunts.
>>78840353
Our pakis have literally been here since the 1960's and make up 2.8 million.
That's 50 odd years of them being here and breeding and having 3rd generation children here.
Now let this sink in, Germany has allowed that many + more shitskin into Europe in the space of 3 years.
Now fuck off you stupid cunt.
Stupid, stupid, stupid Italy once again being stupid and not learning. Never learning, not being smart, picking the losing side once again and then you'll switch sides again when you WAKE UP!
Idiot.
Nicola Sturgeon must be seen to be pushing the indyref2 angle but in all honesty she does not want to have it right now. Oil is low, UK is in state of flux.
With UK out of EU we would be forced to use the €. The loss of the £ in itself would make any indyref2 nearly impair me to win.
Instead we will hold the gun to UK gov head, keep the masses happy by threatening Indyref2. Have UK Gov block it and then let the pressure build. We need to wait till the old folk that voted No last time die off to ensure a big majority.
Likely outcome is we will blackmail UK gov for more powers while they deal with Brexit fallout.
It would be madness to jump into EU right now when have of EU net contributing countries want to leave.
I suspect we Scots are just going to be difficult cunts for a couple of years while we wait for opportunity.
>Approves of the UK breaking away from a union it no longer wants to be in
>Disapproves of Scotland breaking away from a union it no longer wants to be in
/pol/ logic
>>78840867
>That's 50 odd years of them being here and breeding and having 3rd generation children here.
right and they keep coming in. And the EU never controlled your borders, either.So you completely id this to yourself, and worse yet you are blind to it. You'll keep importing Pakis until Pakistan is empty while telling yourself at least they aren't Poles
>We're tired of english rule
>Let's join brussels rule instead
>>78840186
True, but Pakistanis are cancer YOU Brits created. The Turks in Germany and Algerians in France are both natural born cancer.
Pakis are synthetic cancer and this cancer was synthesized by Britain as a giant fuck you to India. Eventually the cancer came to bite you in the ass
>>78840961
I don't see an issue
>>78840961
>A 400 year old full union is the same as a 40 year old half-assed union
>>78840905
>we would be forced to use the €.
No we fucking wouldn't.
To use the Euro, you have to have been a member of ERM2 for 2 years. Joining ERM2 is voluntary. Neither the UK or Scotland currently meet the Euro convergence criteria, let alone the 2 year membership of ERM2.
Scotland cannot be forced to use the euro. Scotland couldn't even use the Euro if it wanted to.
>>78840905
>With UK out of EU we would be forced to use the €
Why?
The pound is a Scottish currency too.
>>78840961
not pol logic
salty kraut logic mate
they feel like they are masters of the 4th reich and we are its slaves
they moan on pol about it but really feel important
us leaving fucks it all up
and now they seek to punish the UK by encouraging the uk to split up just to spite us to ward off any other ideas of nation states leaving
they dont care about the scots! they only care about their power
>>78825821
Never cuck faggot we told you to fuck off twice germany and if it wasn't for bull dyke brain washing sturgeon we would have probably said no again.
>>78840961
Fuck off this issue has already been settled.
Scotland voted to stay in the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom voted for Brexit
1.6 million ScotKeks won't veto the wishes of 17 million
>>78841088
WHAT? we created pakistan in the hopes you both would stop killing each other ffs
>>78841283
>won't veto the wishes of 17 million
what
Those people are still getting out of the EU. They're just not doing it with Scotland. That's hardly a veto on their wishes.
>>78841301
>you both would stop killing each other ffs
For heaven's sake, why? That was not every smart of you
>We want to be free of English Rule!
>So we can be told what to do by Brussels!
Ok Scotland.
>>78841478
muslims and hindus living in the same country kept squabbling like little bitches...so we carved a small chunk of india out called it pakistan and told all the pakis to move there and behave themselves
then they came and fucking swamped us >:(
now we wish we just slaughtered them all instead lol
>>78841494
I'm in tears
>>78841154
It's 300 years lad
>>78841656
Or you could have just left them to kill each other and not done a thing. Instead you created this whole new national identity called Pakistan out of thin air and now look where that got you
>>78841478
the empire sought to bring civilization not kill the local population mate
only sub humans such as abos made it on the flora and fauna list
arabs and hindus showed potential to being civilized and dragged into the modern century with education and tech etc
our effect remains even today there...now you are a local power and slowly doing well for yourselves...indian culture rubbed off on us also.
my towns crest has an elephant in it for example lol
>>78838519
Sorry (not sorry), there will be no referendum for Nicola. Scotland, you stopped voting Labour, best thing for you now is stop voting SNP and get to work building Britain.
>>78840961
i am a scot.
Serious question.
Why is the EU anything more than just economic/trade agreements? No one but Germany and their cuck Sweden seems to like any other part of the thing.
>>78841494
>Banana regulations are the same thing as london rule over
the constitution, including:
the Crown
the Union with England, Northern Ireland and Wales
the relationship with the UK Parliament
the existence of the (criminal) High Court of Justiciary
the existence of the (civil) Court of Session
registration and funding of political parties
international relations, including:
international development
the regulation of international trade
the Home Civil Service
defence
treason
Financial and Economic Matters
fiscal, economic and monetary policy
currency
financial services
financial markets
money laundering
Home Affairs
drug abuse
data protection and access to information
elections
firearms
film classification
immigration and nationality
scientific procedures on live animals
national security and counter-terrorism
betting, gaming and lotteries
emergency powers
extradition
lieutenancies
Trade and Industry
business associations
insolvency
competition
intellectual property
import and export control
sea fishing outside the Scottish zone
customer protection
product standards, safety and liability
weights and measures
telecommunications
postal services
research councils
Energy
electricity
oil and gas
coal
nuclear energy
energy efficiency
Transport
marine transport
air transport
Social Security
social security schemes
child support
pensions
>>78841905
we did not aim to genocide but to raise all of humanity to our standards across the land m8
>>78842159
And also
Regulation of the Professions
architect
health professions
auditor
Employment
employment and industrial relations
health and safety
Health and Medicines
abortion
xenotransplantation
embryology, surrogacy and human genetics
medicines, medical supplies and poisons
welfare foods
Media and Culture
broadcasting
public lending right
Miscellaneous
judicial salaries
equal opportunities
control of weapons of mass destruction
Ordnance Survey
time
outer space
>>78840961
>context blindness
You have it
>>78841056
>right and they keep coming in
Just going to stop you there.
No they don't.
>>78841088
So? We gave both of you shit eaters nukes, why don't you do the entire planet a favour and end each other?
No one will miss you, not even the slags in Rotherham.
>>78842159
It's only a matter of time until the EU grabs more power.
Everyone here hates Chomsky but the guy is right about power structures. They constantly act in the way that grants them more power.
>>78842425
yeah? When was Paki immigration banned then?
>>78842425
>indians
>pakis
know the difference mate
>>78842506
At such a point an independent Scotland could withdraw from the EU of it's own volition, as Britain has done.
>>78825821
Ireland supports the Scottish.
Live free not slaves to Westminster.
>>78842425
No need to be salty m8. I'm just having a laugh at Brits whining about Pakis while it turns out Brits literally created Pakis
I love it when Germans defend the European Union in the delusion that it's somehow "their empire" or a "fourth Reich". Yes, the EU does act as if it were an expansionist empire and the German elite does have large sway in it, but that's the thing- it's the ELITE. The European Union in no way benefits the average German person or even the German nation. It brings no prestige, resources or wealth. All it does is contribute to the destruction of Europe and European culture and makes a few elites even richer. It is not a positive thing for the German people or nation.
>>78827982
Jesus Christ how much of a brown cock worshipping stereotypical German cuck can you be?
>>78825821
>Germany
>home of white man
Lmao
>>78842758
Yeah if it was a Pan-European empire that wanted to show the rest of the shitskin countries that Europeans are supreme then I might've been on board.
It's just shit.
>>78842758
>It brings no prestige, resources or wealth
that must be why Germany has a higher GDP per capita, human development and education scores than the UK
>>78825821
Get fucked Germany, you can wallow in the mess you created for yourself, meanwhile the support for indy2 is falling through the floor.
We are better together OUT of Europe.
>>78825821
Agreed, But not the whole of scotland.
The Kingdom of Mann and the Isless needs indpendence to.
They are of norse blood and should take their rightful place in scandinavia, indepentent under the norwegian King..
>>78842721
You are brown. You have no say in this and if you make trouble you will get recolonized by Europeans who will install themselves at the top of your rotten caste system again.
PS
You smell of curry and it is repulsive.
>>78845255
>>78845255
>>78845255
UK SENDS NUKE SUB TO SPAIN! GET IN HERE KEKS!
>>78844429
fuck off dickhead we dont want your progressive bullshit on the isles suck a somali dick at knife point and say sorry.
