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>First casualty reported among US troops in Syria
>Russian Air Force strikes largest Ahrar Al-Sham base in Idlib
>Syrian Army officially in control of rebel stronghold in rural Damascus
>Iraqi Army liberates more territory in west Fallujah
>Iraqi Army rescues Yezidi women in Fallujah
>3,700 flee Falluja amid reports Islamic State using human shields: UN

Previous >>75788511

>SouthFront June 1
http://youtu.be/uxPbabUGcYU
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Nth for VKS
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nth for Erdomeme BTFO
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I'm going to sleep now
reminder to join the steam group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/syriagenerals
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nth for mad max style armour
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Going off to bed too. Nighty night /sg/!
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This is starting to get tiresome for kaffirs. no matter who wins or loses, Europe gets the dregs.
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>>75830699
>that's the bulldozer's bulldozer
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>>75830988

This is the most rare flag i ever seen in /sg/
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>>75830988
Ooooh, off to the collection with you!
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>>75830988
*kuffar
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Reminder that assad is a war criminal and that airstrike you caused is a warcrime and you all are war Criminals, i hope you get arrested
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>>75830503
Had been looking for this, I guess the news has been slow lately?
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>>75832136
You jealous, faggot?
>>75832234
We're all waiting for Iraq to reconquer Fallujah.
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I don't see how it matters to Whites these days. It was fun in beginning bc media was painting Assad and Russians as bad guy.

Now even media can't lie to us, and all the scum come to europe from all sides for gibs me.
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>>75832980
>I don't see how it matters to Whites these days

Spain counts as white?
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>>75832136
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Reminder that t*rks are Klingons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sFyY9LN0M
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>>75832136
>>i hope you get arrested
For what?
Anti-ISIS Propaganda.
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>>75833194
>Spain counts as white?
As White as the elites there who rule your nation and treat you like dirt, Sambo.
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the whole south america thing is the greatest scam for whites in the world.

you get to be elites bc "Hispanic," can crush all the muds with US money and assassins as commies, and no one says a word.

These are the "Hispanics" who rule Argentina.
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>>75833307
you are war criminal. it is a wonder kuwayt has yet to arrest you.
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>>75832136
>fighting jihadists is now a war crime
You know what these guys do if they're allowed to overthrow a government?
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>>75832136
How much do the Saudis pay you to suck their dicks, José?
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>>75835177
you are funny man. opposing ISrael and USrael makes me war criminal!
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>>75835177
Otto please leave holy shit. The only war criminals here are the obungo defending retards who like it when big governments fund terrorists to destabilize self determining governments in the middle east.
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>>75834938
>>75834938
>implying there's no poor whites too
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>>75835299
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>>75835299
Never saw the poor, but met the older White people who still call it "the Argentine" and happily explained why the coloreds need to be in their place.

would love to live there. since I don't, I'm worried that no matter who wins or loses territory in Syria, they change hats and come to Europe.
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Are there archives for all the Pro Assad art that's been made?
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>>75835268
Proof? The FSA has no Collaboration with terrorist organizations of the like.
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>>75835534
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>>75835384
>the british girl is not using a jihab
that's ofensive

>>75835581
Don't think so, why don't you try a pro assad facebook page? Probably there's a lot of memes there
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>>75835581
>The FSA has no Collaboration with terrorist organizations
What the actual fuck???
Theyre LITERALLY collaborating with the syrian al-Qaeda

Some americans are so fucking retarded, how the fuck do you defend your government aiding the friends of al-Qaeda and refusing to bomb al-Qaeda

Its like youll defend your government doing ANYTHING even if its complete bullshit, are you a shill or is your head in the sand
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>>75835581
HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHH

GET JEWED!
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>>75835267
No, chemical attacks and barrel bombs that kill children are what makes you and your kind war criminals, Alawite Scum
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>>75835581
You really believe that 'moderate rebels' are going to decide the future of Syria?

It's Assad or the jihadists, that's the truth. look at what happened in Libya for fucks sake
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>>75835693
That is merely propaganda by the Assad Regime, not fact.
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>>75835728
>chemical attacks

MAHUAHUAHUAHUHAUHAUHUAHAUHHAUHAUHAHAUHAUHUAHUAHAHUAUHUHAHUAHUAUHAUHAHUHAHUAUHAUHUHHAHUAHUHAUHAUHAHUAHAUUHAUHAUHUHAHUAUHAUHUAHUAHUHAUHAHUAUHAUHAHUAHUAHUAUHUAH


NICE FUCKING MEME M8!
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>>75835647
meant to>>75835534
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>>75835730
the moderates are the Jihadists. There is no line of sepration. As the U.S. State Department put it "It's a fluid environment" when asked about how US weapons ended up int he hands of the Al Nursa Front.
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>>75835581
Pic related from previous thread
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>>75835728
>chemical attacks
gtfo with your propaganda

>bombs that kill children
Yes, Syrian air force kills children. So does the American air force, the Russian air force, even the Canadian air force. War is messy.
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>>75835806
Literally

The washington times even reported the truth

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
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>>75835849
But syria does deliberately, using specialised too.
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Is Syria the worlds most embarrassing country?
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>>75835857
that is russian infiltration
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>>75835844
yeah? I can put 2 flags side by side, and say they work together, doesnt prove things.
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>>75835930
hahahahahaha, ok you got me at first but that gave you away. nice b8
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>>75835907
yes
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>>75835930
OTTOMAN NEEDS TO BE BANNED HOLY SHIT
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>>75835792
Okay youre a troll, there is no other way

FSA and al-Nusra literally hold the same territory and do offensives together

Theres ample proof for this all over the place, one Google search away
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>>75835907
wow anon, Israel seems very rich. Why do they need those billions from the USA that is 17 trillion in debt then?
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>>75835905
>>75835907
the JIDF shills r 2 high. get shoahed ye kikes
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>>75835728
What about the depleted uranium and cluster bombs dropped on children in iraq.

That would make Bush,Hillary,McCain,Kerry War Criminals.
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>>75836139
Ouch!
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>>75836155
bush is a war criminal, one more reason we should never vote those type of murderers into office
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>>75836321
Implying Obungo isn't just as bad and Hillary wont be worse?
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>>75835981
You're not meant to make up your mind on one picture.
That picture gives you a rough idea of what's going on - the rest you can do your own research on to confirm the facts and updates, you lazy shit.
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>>75836321
all now US presidents are puppets. im 100% sure when trump win he will not do the 90% of the things he promised and go on doing more bullshit than obama and bush combined
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>>75836541
You're right about the promises but I think we will have to wait and see the rest. He is clearly very pro Israel but has clearly stated he wants to BTFO Isis and has made statements in support of Assad.
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>>75836104
RARE
A
R
E
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>>75836321
>bush is a war criminal
You say this yet you let the US gov. convince you that sectarian rebels from a revolution that started in a Daraa community riled up by a sectarian Sunni imam is a good thing to support

Weakling, you probably thought Bush was great at the time and later on you let others tell you what to think
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>>75830503
when were you when turk dies?

i was at home eating bratwurst when hans ring

'turk is kill'

'yes'
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>>75836321
Assad never wanted to be the next president his father wanted his brother to be the next president before he died in a car accident.Furthermore he wanted to be a eye doctor he studied Ophthalmology and he attended postgraduate studies at the Western Eye Hospital, in London.

Long Live
DR.President Al-Assad
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>>75836652
how can he support ISrael and Assad and oppose ISIS while ISrael is enemy of Assad and ISrael funds ISIS and IS is the enemy of Assad?

the US bullshit game wont change at it seems. always contradictory and always filled with bullshit
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>>75838366
The worst thing is, after 5 years of sectarianism and comradery with al-Qaeda, some dumb Americans are still so extremely ignorant and retarded to believe that "FSA" (who hardly even exist anymore in the first place, you can read this shit on Wikipedia even) are "le good guys" JUST BECAUSE their government supports them

It seems most Americans are critical of their government's internal affairs, why dont they apply the same to the foreign affairs?
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>>75838614
Why? never heard them saying we cant be terrorists because we are Americans? even if they do the same things what terrorists do?

The Terrorism in America is anything Americans dont agree with. but sadly, most of these foul spawns doesnt know they are the true terrorists in this earth.

Who the fuck developed Nuclear weapons?
Who the fuck dropped nuke in civilians area?
Who the fuck develop biological weapons?
Who the fuck refuses to find ultimate cure for cancer and aids?
Who the fuck massacred an entire tribal nation in the Americas in the name of freedom?
Who the fuck armed Al-qaeda to fight Russia then let them spread in the world to kill innocents while muslims are the majority who are dead?


oh well i know. THEY ARE THE MUSLIMS!

This arrogant actions from the west really made the christians in here have stronger relationship with Muslims and distant themselves from the christian west. as the most hated christian by the Arab christians now is the pope himself.
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>>75839030
>the most hated christian by the Arab christians now is the pope himself.

That's because he's not a Christian.

He left a Christian Arab family in a rapefugee camp and took TWENTY SEVEN MUSLIMS to Italy instead.

The fucking Pope should be fucking shot.
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A UN fact-finding mission was requested by member states to investigate 16 alleged chemical weapons attacks. Seven of them have been investigated (nine were dropped for lack of "sufficient or credible information") and in four cases the UN inspectors confirmed use of sarin gas. The reports, however, did not blame any party for using chemical weapons.Many countries, including the United States and the European Union have accused the Syrian government of conducting several chemical attacks, the most serious of them being the 2013 Ghouta attacks. However, before this incident UN human rights investigator Carla del Ponte who has been investigating sarin gas use in Syria, in May 2013 accused the opposition of the 'regime' for using sarin gas and in her interview she said: "According to the testimonies we have gathered, the rebels have used chemical weapons, making use of sarin gas".

i mean it's even on wikipedia
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>>75836155

Don't forget us,Ameribro,you gave us our fair share in '99.
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https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/738165652695830529

btw guys,we have work to do
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>>75839801
You had your moments too
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>>75839886
Mate, it is impossible to find the location of that one.
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38KM
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>>75843943
The kilomemes are not a thing there. Maybe at sdf to Manbij.
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>>75843943
Kurdish and SAA clashes when?
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>>75844751
hopefully they get along and remove IS together
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>>75844945
>hopefully they get along and remove IS together
the turks are going to fight kurds and it will get even worse.
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>>75844945
I think they wont. Kurds are too greedy on their territorial claims and SAA wants to keep a unified Syria at all costs. They will "get along" until the IS has been removed. I wonder which side Russia will support when those two groups clash.
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>>75845090
Fuck off Otto.
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>>75845153
I am not him, jeez.
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>>75845086
I wouldn't even suprised when Assad ask Turkey for help if the kurds trying to grab a chunk of syrian clay.
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>>75843943
Is Manbij happening now? I thought the YPG was told by US not to close out the Turkey border?

Did Assad and Kurds/US make a deal, or was it all a giant ruse to catch IS off-guard?
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>>75835127
To be fair, if you look long and hard enough, you will find caucasian people in every latinamerican country.
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>>75845297
>Assad ask Turkey for help

Assad would be a gigantic moron x1000 to ever Turkey again in his lifetime. Considering they almost got him and his family killed.

Turkey will have big trouble with the Kurds in the future.
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>>75830699
Neat
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>>75833479
for fucks sake
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>>75845442
>Turkey will have big trouble with the Kurds in the future.
They've killed over 7000 of them in a single year.
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>>75845611
Which only makes the remaining 32 million angrier.
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>>75845372
Manbij push is happening now indeed
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>>75845488
to be fair, this is somehow probably how Erdogan views Turkey
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>>75845611
we will have a problem in another 100 years. 7k does not matter they have nearly 10 children per couple
turkish state needs to limit maximum amount of children one family can have like china did
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>>75845848
Maybe put some fences, blockade all electricity water and food supplies and let them wither like Africa?
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>>75845611
>7000 of them
that's not "big trouble" by Turk standards. They aren't known as "murderous turks" for nothing.
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>>75845932
>kills 700 terrorist
>murderer
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>>75845848
How's that gonna help you from well-armed, well-trained, experienced kurd fighters streaming into Turkey from Syria and Iraq and just killing turks at will?

I mean, the turkish soldier is a piece of shit coward with no combat experience. The kurdish fighter veterans will slaughter them easily.

Turkey will go down, and Constantinople will be Christian again.
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>>75845848
Just a simple proposal: Fuck the Kurds

Give them their state. Get every Turk out there and deport every Kurd in there. Build wall and shot at everyone who wants to cross it.
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>>75846022
that is not beneficial to our goal

Turkey needs to bleed, so we can take it without losses
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>>75846011
middle easterners always assume other have a side. Bleach each other and then let the jews drink the bleach.

no one would complain, I promise.
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They're crossing the river now

https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/738293870237241344
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>>75846117
i am a jew, but not a middle easterner. Also k*rds were literally proxy of USSR for commie state in a Nato country. Now used by anyone
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>>75846019
>the turkish soldier is a piece of shit coward with no combat experience

As much as I like to bash Turkey, this is only partly true. They wage a non stop "ATO" in their own country.

The kurds have a veteran core of fighters, true that. But even the kurds are not a borg collective. You have different parties with different agendas.
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>>75846108
>that is not beneficial to our goal
>Turkey needs to bleed, so we can take it without losses
who is 'we' and what is 'our' goal?
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>>75846313
>we
Deutschtürken
>our goal
Rache für die Abschiebung nach Deutschland.
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>>75846261
How come you live in Azerbaijan? Work? Mountain jew?
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>>75845929
>>75846022
most kurds don't even live in the south-east, which is why most people don't want a kurdistan
losing that part of the country would probably be beneficial to us(hdi, average income, employment rates etc would skyrocket. consanguinity rates, akp votes, illegal use of electricity and religiosity would go down), but we would have to deport all kurds living in the west to avoid an inter-communal violence epidemic

>>75846019
biji biji biji biji
hewal hewal
no electricity bill pls, biji borotherhood of peoples and terrorism

>>75845932
i wish we had actually been really genocidal people, at least we wouldn't hear so much bitching
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>>75846392
my grandma is mountain jew who converted to islam and married a muslim Azeri. Also 10k Mountain jews live here and have a jewish town
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>>75846265
>non stop "ATO"

Don't make me laugh. One thing fighting the old PKK with barely any arms and training. And entirely different thing fighting Syria and Iraq veterans backed by Iraqi and Syrian Kurdistan with vast amounts of oil money. You don't know how wealthy they are.

>You have different parties with different agendas

You seriously believe that? After Turkey has killed so many Kurdish civilians and children, they aren't gonna stand by and quarrel amongst themselves.

>>75846313
>who is 'we'

Christendom.
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>>75846364
>Deutschtürken
Wow lad
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>>75846668
until recently the turkish army didn't really have superior equipment compared to pkk, to the contrary they actually made the state buy some of the equipment pkk was using to fight on equal footing. nato didn't really sell us all that much, which is why the turkish arms industry grew to where it is today

needless to say nowadays we have a massive advantage on that front, not because of anyone arming us but because we have our own equipment now

>christendom
kill yourself my man

>>75846265
what is ato?
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>>75846668
Never underestimate your enemy. Never overestimate yourself (or your alleis for that matter)

I trained with turkish soldiers during a Nato maneuver. Their training is on a good standard.

For those who wants to know. I served some time at Bonland which is the NATO school for urban conbat and had the chance to see first hand how good the different NATO countries are.

Toptier:
-French forgeign legion. Those guys can give you nightmares, pure killing machines
-Finns. the best conscripts I saw
-Germans. Our training is still very good. We are just underfunded as fuck

Midtier:
-Turks. But sometimes impulsive
-English. A little to slow
-Americans. Too specialized

Better don't give them guns tier:
-Belgiums. Incompetent
-Greeks. One guy tried to sell us his gun! Wtf greece?!
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>>75847136
>what is ato?
Anti-Terror-Operation
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paganism is no no. but ty for the support.
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>>75845848
How come Erdogan strives to limit or even ban contraception?
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>>75847495
WE

>>75847632
he doesn't, he encourages high fertility rates which isn't sustainable in the long run
having over 2 children should be taxed heavily desu
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>>75847495
This only one desert god thing is not god for everyone imo.

Also >>75847740
WUZ
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>>75847905
thats not how things work mah boi. but let us not turn this place into religious shithole
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>>75848130
Agreed.
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http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160602/1040649533/syrian-army-deir-ezzor.html
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https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/738298861442224129
>SyAA/Suqur Al Sahara operation to liberate the city of Raqqa has begun this morning @AboZain6 says

hype
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>>75848518
I am probably wrong. But I call Matryoshka. This is Russia supported Syria we are talking about. MoD will have a saying on strategy. And I think this is the "drum in one corner strike in another" shit they love pulling off.
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>>75848288
>>75848518
which one?
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>>75848518
To liberate Raqqa? I thought Kurds + US special forces were closest to Raqqa
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For the second time in 24 hours, the Russian Air Force has destroyed a military camp that belonged to the jihadist rebels of Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham in rural Idlib. The Russian Air Force reportedly struck another Ahrar Al-Sham camp in the Idlib countryside; however, this time, the jihadist installation was located inside the village of Horsh Tal Touna, which is located next to Maasaran.

According to an Al-Masdar correspondent in Damascus, the coordinates of this Ahrar Al-Sham military camp was given by a local government spy.

On Tuesday, the Russian Air Force destroyed Ahrar Al-Sham’s largest military camp in northern Syria; this attack marked the first time in several weeks that the Russians targeted these jihadists in rural Idlib.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/russian-air-force-destroys-ahrar-al-shams-camp-rural-idlib/ | Al-Masdar News
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>>75835981
I'm pretty sure FSA regularly fights together with al-Nusra front, which literally spawned from IS in Iraq, and al-Qaeda.
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>>75847278
Yet nothing can replace combat experience.

You will see, within the next 15 years Constantinople will be Christian again, or at least under Christian occupation.

We would be smart to take it for ourselves before Russia, or the US, beats us to the punch. Policy towards Turkey will change drastically once Merkel leaves.
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>>75839030
SA is always best thread on /pol/, you are doing gods work
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>>75848842
They are. But the situation and environment are quite different. For the Kurds there is a lot more inhabited areas before Raqqa. For the Desert Hawks/NDF its almost a straight road to get near Tabqah, just open desert

Both have their disadvantages of course
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>>75849035
>this maymay-crusader shit
Do you have any idea how retarded this shit sounds?
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>>75849057
Kek. totally missed this quality post. >>75839030
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>>75849035
try us you fat white bitchboy
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>>75839030
You have a point, but main problem is that muslims are poor. if you are poor you are more barbaric according to them. If you explode the house inside you are terrorist, if you drop the bomb from air you are an hero
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>>75849057
>>75849262
>>75849708

we used to be the best people on earth. we had scholars more than any nations and wealth that no other people had.

now we are nothing but a people known to destroy and kill and hate.
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>>75839030
>Who the fuck developed Nuclear weapons?
USA,Germany and Russia
>Who the fuck dropped nuke in civilians area?
This was to end the war. Dropping the nuke actuaclly saved lives.
>Who the fuck develop biological weapons?
This was already made before ww1, deadcows were catapulted inside castles. still they made some progress.
>Who the fuck refuses to find ultimate cure for cancer and aids?
What do you mean refuse? I doubt they have the secret stashed somewhere in a safe. Also, your nation( Middle-east but Africa as well) contributes almost nothing to research.
>Who the fuck massacred an entire tribal nation in the Americas in the name of freedom?
War of conquest.
>Who the fuck armed Al-qaeda to fight Russia then let them spread in the world to kill innocents while muslims are the majority who are dead?
Tbh, I argree with you on that one. Funding rebels always comes back to bite you in the ass.

Also, I am not religous and I even hate the pope.
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>>75849057
SG*
Need some book reccomendations lads, any must-reads the modern history of the middle east?
>>75849786
what happened?
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>>75849788
killing people to end war is no excuse. not even at any chance. even conquest end in the same thing.
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stalin fighting with kurds, coincidence??
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>>75849786
3 reasons why muslim nations are stuck in backwards.
1 Mongol invasion- They destroyed everything they could
2 Ghazali - he said people shouldn't question god's words
3 Seaway to India killed the silkroad
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>>75849788
>This was to end the war. Dropping the nuke actuaclly saved lives.
Japan was looking into negotiating surrender before the bombs were dropped because they feared a soviet invasion of Hokkaido.
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>>75849788
>so cucked you are being an apologist for another nations war crimes
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>>75849915
>killing people to end war is no excuse. not even at any chance. even conquest end in the same thing.

???

If they had attacked Japan there would be 1 million death usa troops. also a hell of a lot of Japanese sldiers and civilians.

Dropping the bomb ended the war, thus saving hunderds of thousands of lives. >>75849978
MM, new info. Thats why I like pol.

still, sauce?
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>>75849884
Recently read "Black Flags: The Rise of ISIS"
Pretty good read, if you want to know, how ISIS came to be.
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>>75850088
okay achmed
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>>75849788
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>>75849884
>>75849967
the reason why we fucked up is because we stayed away from god policy on being a Muslim. you need to have successful life as a Muslim then you need a divine intervention alongside Muslim actions according to god laws. because we now dont follow what it is said in the quran and praise others non than god we are now living in islamic dark age.

>>75850094
thats no excuse to kill civilians. a war is between soldiers and not soldiers and civilians. other than that then you are a coward.
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>>75850094
>Tsuyoshi Hasegawa's research has led him to conclude that the atomic bombings were not the principal reason for Japan's capitulation. He argues that Japan's leaders were impacted more by the swift and devastating Soviet victories on the mainland in the week following Joseph Stalin's August 8 declaration of war because the Japanese strategy to protect the home islands was designed to fend off a US invasion from the South, and left virtually no spare troops to counter a Soviet threat from the North. This, according to Hasegawa, amounted to a "strategic bankruptcy" for the Japanese and forced their message of surrender on August 15, 1945.
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>>75850118
will check it out. Currently reading The Looming Tower, about the motivation behind and history of alqaeda, good shit
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>>75830699
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>>75849788
>Who the fuck massacred an entire tribal nation in the Americas in the name of freedom?

Spain. And every colonial power in the history of civilization.

>>75849915

>killing people to end war is no excuse. not even at any chance. even conquest end in the same thing.

If you say so, chief.
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>>75849788
>This was to end the war. Dropping the nuke actuaclly saved lives.
Yeah. Drop it on cities instead of military concentraions right?

I have not that much problem to bomb a nation to the table, even with nukes. But dropping it on fucking cites full with civilians!?

There were enough islands, far away military airports, garrisons end so on.
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>>75850149
Who the fuck armed Al-qaeda to fight Russia then let them spread in the world to kill innocents while muslims are the majority who are dead?
Tbh, I argree with you on that one. Funding rebels always comes back to bite you in the ass.
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>>75850203
>the reason why we fucked up is because we stayed away from god policy on being a Muslim
opposite is true. read the quran. if you follow it as it says, you are no different than ISIS. People should take religious books with the grain of salt
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>>75850203
Implying there is moral in war.
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>>75850210
hmmm, Vivtors write history.

Thanks for the info. I might change my opinion on the atomic bomb a bit,

but i am still a bit n unclear about it.

Sorry for the pun.
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>>75850364
>opposite is true. read the quran. if you follow it as it says, you are no different than ISIS. People should take religious books with the grain of salt


EXCUSE ME? dont compare ISIS who follow the hadith and we who follow the quran. dont even try to pyt me us with such filth. jee man.

>>75850386
implying there is not. sorry man i live in different world and killing civilians is not ok not by 0.1% chance.
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>>75850149
If you think those were all "lol too bad guess we fucked up", you don't understand how sinister and long-term the Globalists' thinking is.

Arming groups that turn against us is a great way to generate neverending wars, which is just fine with them.
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>>75850149
but PKK are really good since they're killing t*rks
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>>75850468
>implying quran is good
the book advocates for slavery, honor killings, jihad, cutting hands, torture.
most of hadith is based on quran anyways
>>75850358
>>75850496
i know that they knew the possible future outcome.
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>>75850666
>666
i love Chechens now
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Daily reminder there is a telegram group with 24/7 banter.

https://telegram.me/joinchat/CTL8-T9UU6N_HP6t2TRKWA
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>>75850765
t. homoazer
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>>75850685
oh look who is here. bring citation boi. so i can explain it to you

>most of hadith is based on quran anyways
proof where.jpg

you have opened a religious conflict boy. and i will make sure you fail.
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>>75850666
they also carry out suicide bombings that kill civilians. No one is clean in this war. Infact, have the iraqi army done any nefarious shit yet?
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>>75850468
An American by the name of Sherman invented the modern concept of "Total War".

We killed far more civilians in firebombings than nukes. Tokyo, Osaka, Nagoya killing hundreds of thousands. We did the same in Germany.
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>>75843943

Distance doesn't matter. If SAA cut them off at Tabqah they're screwed.
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>>75850920
And are you proud of it?
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>>75850906
>iraqi army done any nefarious shit yet?
They made some "nefarious" music videos.
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Guys how much longer am i going to have to wait until ISIL gives out?

How much land do they even have right now?

Have we made any progress since the start of the war?
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>>75850863
>bring citation boi
shame you haven't read quran yet. but for you i am going to drop some :D
Baqarah 178 , Maide 38
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>>75851059

Truthfully, I have no feelings on the matter.

No pride, no shame.
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>>75839030
>Who the fuck armed Al-qaeda to fight Russia then let them spread in the world to kill innocents while muslims are the majority who are dead?

The US, China, and Iran. But who cares only blame the US for all the ill in the world and abstaining blame from Muslims. Oh yeah did I mentioned we mostly funded the northern alliance? But who cares it doesn't matter.
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>>75851139
Judging on a thing you did not read is like reviewing a game you have to played.

The Cow: 178
O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment.

The Table Spread: 38-39
[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they committed as a deterrent [punishment] from Allah . And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.
But whoever repents after his wrongdoing and reforms, indeed, Allah will turn to him in forgiveness. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

Hmm?


>>75851321
you guys mostly funded terrorists in this earth from east to west and from north to south. just to play a little political monopoly game and it always fail. terrorism is like scorpion and scorpions sting anything they see.
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>>75851409
Judging on a thing you did not read is like reviewing a game you have not* played.
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tfw no Kurdish loli gf

I have failed in life
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>>75851409
first one advocates for killing slave for slave, woman for woman. imagine someone killed "your" woman. would you kill the murderer or the murderer's woman?
also
>slavery
>owning woman
second one literally says cut off hands of thief. it is stupid and barbaric. what if the 4 witneses are lying? and it is proven that he wasnt guilty? will his hand grow up again?
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>Kike vs. Muslim
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damn what'd I miss guys?
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>>75852252

SAA on the move to cut off Raqqa
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>>75851720
read the verse again. are you sure you do understand English?
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Finally, any conflict yet? I've been waiting for this
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>>75852420
elaborate? i read it in azeri, turkish and english. translations don't make difference.
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>>75851409
>living your life according to what some bedoin said 1500 years ago
senpai i am dissapoint
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>>75852483
both verses describes the punishment of certain crimes. in fact god after it calls for mercy and compassion instead doing it as long they repent.

you do have the will. to take a risk of justice with uncertainty or leave it to god to judge.
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I don't know if you guys watch these at all but they're interesting it is mostly terrorist videos and countless screaming of Allahu Akbar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh-BEW9dizg
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>>75852648
okay i was saying the punishment is unjust and explained why it is. no points about that? if none,
read 33 :50
(33:50) O Prophet, We have made lawful for you your wives whose bridal dues you have paid, and the slave-girls you possess from among the prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and maternal aunts who have migrated with you, and a believing woman who gives herself to the Prophet and whom he wants to take in marriage. (O Prophet), this privilege is yours alone to the exclusion of other believers. We know well what restrictions We have imposed upon them as regards their wives and those whom their right hands possess, (and have exempted you from those restrictions) that there may be no constraint upon you. Allah is Most Forgiving, Most Merciful.
it is clear that quran is full of verses to justify fetishes of Mohammed and it is just one of them.
Btw, i am not saying Bible is better, just Christians don't take the bad parts seriously.
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>>75852877
>Killing the thread with Quran verses.
Can you not?
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>>75852877
what? this is legal marriage what is problem? have you looked at German dungeon porn? DONT google and maybe you will do and you will say: oh Muslims are better i guess.

what god gave to Muhammad is a thing and what god told us Muslims to do is another thing. and your discussion was about what we are about to do. choose your topic boy and dont play tricks on discussion.

Also >okay i was saying the punishment is unjust and explained why it is. no points about that? if none,
in fact, you need to know all murderers will be killed as an eye for an eye.
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>>75852877
O ye who believe! Enter not the Prophet's houses,- until leave is given you,- for a meal, (and then) not (so early as) to wait for its preparation: but when ye are invited, enter; and when ye have taken your meal, disperse, without seeking familiar talk. Such (behaviour) annoys the Prophet: he is ashamed to dismiss you, but Allah is not ashamed (to tell you) the truth. And when ye ask (his ladies) for anything ye want, ask them from before a screen: that makes for greater purity for your hearts and for theirs. Nor is it right for you that ye should annoy Allah's Messenger, or that ye should marry his widows after him at any time. Truly such a thing is in Allah's sight an enormity.

>being so beta that you have to make your god tell people not to bother you and talk to your wives

kek
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>>75853215
actually. the reason of this that muhammad feared muslims would do something god did not tell them to do. and his biggest fear came to reality and we have the hadith.
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>>75853172
i tried not to :D but he baited me and i can't resist free stuff
>>75853202
i am not the one making excuses, but anyways. i didn't expect you to not make excuses on this. can you make one specific point on what i said? or will you say he was good kind of playboy ? :D
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>>75853376
>>75853215
adds his personal life to "holy" book :D
t. beta male
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>>75853452
>>implying quran is good
the book advocates for slavery, honor killings, jihad, cutting hands, torture.
most of hadith is based on quran anyways
t. Azeri neckbeard.

the excuse here is you wanted to discuss our laws but you went from laws to something else.

i hope not all azeris are like you. or i would have to turn my alliances to the Armenians.
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>>75853616
> bring citation boi
check ones- cutting hands, slavery, honor killing
won't even bother with others.
btw, before being neckbeard i was studying religion
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>>75847740
>high fertility rates are bad
Are you daft?
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>>75853857
every crime has a punishment. dont like it? not our problem. we dont like an anarchy shit laws
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>>75853879
Actually it's scary Turkey has such high fertility rates.

Meanwhine in cuck europe we have very little children and the west will be full of muslims in a few decades.
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>>75853452
This isn't /religion boi, get the fuck out!
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>>75854062
We need to keep it up to prevent being like Europe or we end up with Pakis and Indians. It is not scary it is on point right now and rate is decreasing every year.
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>>75854038
Why don't you support sharia then? Go back and fight for FSA or ISIS. they love that laws
>>75854113
trying to relate to /sg/ somehow
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>>75854172
the only sharia i support is sharia of god and not USrael. we dont like stoning
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>>75854221
>supporting sharia
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>>75854172
Word of advice for fitting in. Keep religion out of the question.
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>>75854113
Honestly I don't mind. They have a good and interesting discussion.

This discussion isn't "shitposting part V The religion strikes back"
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>>75835703
Lol I like this one
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>>75854356
religion is fuel to Syrian conflict
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>>75854221
>supporting sharia law
almost 1000 years under turkish law and you niggaz didn't learn a god damned thing
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>>75854408
Honestly, I do. I come here for war and updates of the Syria war, not fags arguing about
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KK
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>>75854569
Turkshits stole from the countries they occupied and focused on building Turkey while the rest of the "empire" was stuck in the middle ages... Ottoman occupation was a curse.
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>>75854464
Looks like it's a fuel for you too, You've been carrying on and acting like a total fuckwit.
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>>75854816
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>>75854834
okay, sorry. i stopped already
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I honestly don't know why people hate islamic laws in muslim countries.

IMO that's completely fine. Muslims can decide what laws they have in their countries, just keep that shit out the west please.

The core concept of nationalism is that every nation gets to decide it's own laws and constitution.

Which is why we hate US/Israel globalist shills wo want to push their globalist agenda laws to everyone.
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>>75854816
>my ass is on fire
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>>75854670
The thing is:

Those two that are argueing are people of this area.

Wars are waged with people. So it is important what those people think, what their mindset is and so on to understand the whole of this conflict.

If it would be a discussion with one turk living in germany and a british convert I would also call out bullshit. But it is not.
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The reason Assad survives is solely because of outside support by Lebanese Hezbollah, Iranian IRGC, and Russia airstrikes
He even has Afghan Shia Hazara militias fighting for him, if he has so much Syrian support, why does he need to get miltias from Afghanistan?
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>>75854888
>Sweden and Germany conquering anything
Nice try Abu Ahmad al-Turki
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>>75854888
this one actually makes sense
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>>75835728
Reminder that no American actually feels this way. Except pic related. Know where this shit comes from.

Go Bashar!
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>>75855188
same reason why kurds,FSA survives. without support from abroad they would be nothing and ISIS would win quickly. ISIS has a cause, religious one and they never give up until they win. they see dying as a gift.
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>>75855034
If we were to let that keep going on in the thread it would turn into a total shit storm of religion shit throwing. They should keep their spouting to a 0%.
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>>75855188
The reason the Syrian opposition survives is solely because of outside support by Gulf states, America, Turkey, jihadists from Europe
They even have jihadists from Turkmenistan and Belgium, if they have so much Syrian support, why do they need help from al Qaeda and states that have always been against Syria?
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>>75855188
everyone in this war has support from other countries. kurds would be exterminated without the usa airstrikes.
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>>75854888
And who told I support colonialism? But at the very least western empires didn't destroy Persia or Egypt or the Levant or Mesopotamia like you apes did. Just imagine how great Persia would be today if you muslim rats didn't turn it to shit.
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>>75855368
I don't think religion has much to do with how ISIS is doing.

I think it's because ISIS has existed for 10+ years and is full of Saddams former generals.

While ISIS normal soldiers might be of shoddy quality (abu hajaar level) , their top leadership has shown time and time again that they know what they are doing (atleast somewhat)
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GETTING CLOSE NOW
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>>75855446
This general survived far worse. The loss of Leaf and (temporaly) DeepCover left no one there to start baking new threads. The OPs at this time where week old copies.

The roachinvasion after the SDF offensive several months past was a huge blow.
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>>75855547
of course, i meant the fighters. Have you ever talked to ISIS supporter? They would fight until end and die for it. Assad soldier isn't just that motivated
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>>75855588
Dat kurdish destroyer tho
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>>75855588
this time Erdogan can't stop it. Attack is led by USA and they will close the gap soon
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>>75855785
Don't even think erdogan isn't dumb enough to bomb americans. Because he most certainly is.
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>>75830585
>fsa gets attacked by isis
>erdo btfo xD!

>saa gets attacked by isis
>durr erdo = isis
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>>75854221
>>75855005
By the way, this is why they can't get along. Every one(school) has their own interpretation of Islam and own sharia rule. They try to spread propaganda/kill each other for the ultimate truth. This is why it is so easy to make them fight, bring fighters from abroad etc
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>>75854331
>>75854569
>>75856049
if you idiots read what i wanted you damned cursed roaches wont be complaing
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>>75854569
name one flaw
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>>75856288
bro jesus said not to stone whores anymore
it's like you guys never read the bible or something
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>>75854888
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>>75856288
Most of them are way too severe.

I don't mind adultery being punished for married people , but non married ones? Meh.

Also amputation of limbs for theft is insane.

Homosexuality shouldn't be a death penalty, just should be kept in private/discouraged by society.

Also drinking alchohol shouldn't be a crime.

The rest seems fine tbqh


Blashpemy is already a crime even in the west.
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>>75855965
>>75856288
>It's THE rapefugee again
Allahu akbar :DDDDDDDddd
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>>75856666
OH FUG. SUOMI STRIKES AGAIN WITH HIS ROLES
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>>75856484
>38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ 39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40 And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41 If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42 Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.


cuckstiannity
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>>75856756
This is a huge misinterpretation.

This is the reason why christianity is so cucked right now.

They pick out all the parts that only shows love, joy, forgiveness and yet don't even read the parts that deal with war, punishment, crime.
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>>75856576
>Most of them are way too severe.
you would never face these punishments if you were normal

>I don't mind adultery being punished for married people , but non married ones? Meh.
its important for the cohesion of society

>Also amputation of limbs for theft is insane.
>Homosexuality shouldn't be a death penalty, just should be kept in private/discouraged by society.
important to keep aids away

>Also drinking alchohol shouldn't be a crime.
important for family cohesion and safety of civilians
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>>75856943
>important for family cohesion and safety of civilians
lmao who's cucked now? Damn you're hilarious.

>>75856756
*tips fedora*
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>>75856943
>Also amputation of limbs for theft is insane.
its not for small things like candy, and if you steal with good reason like hunger you wont get punished

its for stealing or scamming millions of dollars or just regular hood rat theft with the purpose of profiting off someone else rightly earned property
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>>75856943
Holy shit please blow up yourself
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>>75857052
a healthy family is a healthy society
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>>75857060
>handless officals
kek
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>>75856943
"normal person"

Sorry but those laws would basically mean that 95% of women in the west need to be murdered, and a good portion of men too..


What's normal in western countries would literally get you murdered in muslim countries.
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>>75857060
>its for stealing or scamming millions of dollars or just regular hood rat theft with the purpose of profiting off someone else rightly earned property
No it isn't, remember that misinterpreting the Word of God is punishable by death.
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>>75856756
>>75856886

what about the 4 angels who are bound at the river Euphrates, that would be relased and kill a 3rd of mankind, Revelation 9:15 tells you about that
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>>75857124
>mfw
10/10. Please go ahead and take yourself a part of Ukraine.
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>>75857161
when you convert all your sins are forgiven inshallah

>>75857230
based
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