Links updated for June 1
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>Interview w/ Assad
http://youtu.be/wELCDCPsw6M
>Featured Videos/Thread Themes
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PERMA MAPS
>Live hohol with ticker
http://mideast.liveuamap.com/
>Interactive military map
http://militarymaps.info/
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http://www.cartercenter.org/syria-conflict-map/
>Fan maps
@syria_protector
@PetoLucem
@miladvisor
@a7_mirza
@hamza_780
http://www.edmaps.com/html/syrian_civil_war_in_maps.html
RECENT MAPS
>Homs/Hama June 1
https://i.imgur.com/rKFZYVV.jpg
>East Homs May 31
https://i.imgur.com/yxm0RRv.jpg
>East Ghouta May 31
https://i.imgur.com/tthKskB.jpg
>Yemen May 31
https://i.imgur.com/R2yB9IG.jpg
>Mosul May 31
https://i.imgur.com/poVzfHQ.jpg
>Manbij May 31
https://i.imgur.com/tXRkIXO.jpg
>North Aleppo May 29
https://i.imgur.com/oYUSJJT.jpg
DEVELOPMENTS JUNE 1
>Syrian Army, Hezbollah retaliate against Ahrar Al-Sham in Zabadani
>Massive convoy of Syrian Army reinforcements arrive in Aleppo
>Moscow says 48-Hour truce agreed in Syria’s Daraya from Wednesday
>ISIS attempts to advance in west Deir Ezzor
>ISIS detains, executes sister of rival rebel commander in Eastern Syria
>SDF inch closer to ISIS-held Manbij
>ISIS calls on followers to destroy satellite TV sets
>Truce and aid agreed for embattled Daraya suburb of Damascus
>First casualty reported among US troops in Syria
>Russian Air Force strikes largest Ahrar Al-Sham base in Idlib
>Syrian Army officially in control of rebel stronghold in rural Damascus
>Iraqi Army liberates more territory in west Fallujah
>Iraqi Army rescues Yezidi women in Fallujah
>3,700 flee Falluja amid reports Islamic State using human shields: UN
Previous >>75741291
>SouthFront June 1
http://youtu.be/uxPbabUGcYU
>>75788511
SAAnime!
>>75788511
gets for air strikes
>>75788511
>referencing anything 4chan-related outside of 4chan
>frogposting outside of 4chan
the autism is strong
>manbij offensive
Happening
>>75788619
Wow! Please update me on our last /sg/ airstrike, lads.
>>75788702
what did you expect? it's ottoman when
https://twitter.com/MuradoRT/status/738094148918620160
RT notice us
Reposting news:
The "Bulldozer of Fallujah" has been captured.
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3620037/Flattened-Terrifying-20st-ISIS-executioner-dubbed-Bulldozer-captured-Syrian-army-dumped-half-naked-truck.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3620037/Flattened-Terrifying-20st-ISIS-executioner-dubbed-Bulldozer-captured-Syrian-army-dumped-half-naked-truck.html
Do you have it ready?
>>75789002
I can make one right now. I will replace bashar al assad with ivan sideorenko
>>75789153
Do it
An ausbro posted this one a few threads ago.
>>75783091
doubles for great britain?
I'm a fucking retard and haven't been following the Syrian civil war. What the actual fuck is going on, someone please give me a summary.
>>75789553
KEK, everyone knows that his name isnt really ivan sidorenko?
Right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Sidorenko
>>75788619
Version with the airstrike
>>75783091
Doubles for Greece?
>>75789860
Tell me something I don't know
>>75789761
Warhammer 40k plot
>Orks doing the Dakka in Raqqa
>Chaos cultists beheading in the name of a free mankind
>Imperial Guard in shambles, but still holding the line, with even some gains thanks to Kasrkin Desert hawks
>>75789910
>>75788833
Thanks for the image. So we really did it!! What a time to be alive, lads!!
>>75789936
looks like were both safe for now
hope you vote right in your referendum, insallah
(secret doubles for italy)
>>75788511
German Guys what is EM?
You said something About it in the previous tread
>>75788619
>file greather than 3mb
What size limit on 4chan now?
>>75789948
>>75789553
>>75789860
Speaking of which, what does he do exactly - position?
Why the Russian name?
He appreciates anime, which confuses me.
>>75790742
europameistershaft (euro 2016 football tournament)
>>75790613
nice XR250 based saa
>>75789761
Ask for the tldr version. I bet someone can give it to you.
>>75790743
4MB
>>75789206
>>75790976
Thanks.
Didnt they try to do a bombattack in Germany after the Paris attack?
Still I doubt that they will strike Europe. I mean if they are smart, they will wait after the elections. Otherwise people just might vote to keep these savages away.
No otto today?
>>75789761
>>75791062
This only one I gots
>>75788511
Someone post that thing about some Hezbollah that attacked Assad's forces.
Was it a mistake or on purpose? Do we know yet? Were they proven to be Hezbollah?
>>75791331
Someone needs to update it
>>75789002
>>75790807
He's a Russian living in the USA
>>75789761
>>75791062
>>75791412
It goes along nicely with Hillary's emails about Syria - can't actually locate that specific email.
I'm pretty sure someone here has a link/copy?
>>75789002
And for the full 4chan package
>>75791300
hey r state med exams still up
>>75791597
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12166#efmAMoAbj
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328#efmADMAFf
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12172#efmBbqBf9
Are this the ones you are looking for? I have more saved but I think they are of Libya/Yemen.
>>75791417
What?
Thought he was a Syrian soldier or some shit?
Unless you're fucking with me - which could be possible seeing as I don't know much about him, rather than the shit he reports.
-
>#SDF forces advancing western #Euphrates river towards #Manbij, #ISIL defense lines Collapsing.
twitter.com/BarzanSadiq/status/738119304747569152
>>75791597
Seconding this
Also someone sauce me up with some new videos? Haven't seen a fire fight in a while
>>75791958
Nah state exams got over long ago
Only national exam left and that's in July end
>>75791597
>>75792037
These are the ones, thanks.
Too many damn emails to go through to find the good ones.
Libya ones would be cool too if it's not going to fuck the thread up?
>>75788511
I haven't been here for like 4 months ever since there was supposed to be a Turkish invasion happening.
Quick summary anyone?
>>75792037
jesus fuck. we are now living in a society where saying "you will make the same if you do as good of a job" is a controversial statement.
civil war fucking when? I want off this ride
>>75792434
>>75791762
add.
you can`t spell fabulous whiteout FAB-250
>>75792182
I thought Ivan Sidorenko was a military advisor in Syria
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/738121839763968004
Ivan is testing our logos, share opinions guys
>>75792203
Got you senpai.
Iraq,,war on isis. 30th of may.
https://youtu.be/dXYF43j2wrM
Everyone, this is a great channel. It has daily uploads of videos about syria and iraq. In the videos you can see them fighting. The videos vary from length. Some are 6 minutes other 10.
They are of rather good quality if you ask me. You should definately add this to your subscribsions on youtube. Same goes for Southfront
>>75792932
topkek
I'm pretty sure he's a Russian living in the USA.
Ask him
Ivan thanks us our effort
>>75792932
Pretty much thought the same - not sure if we getting trolled here.
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/738121839763968004
>>75792434
I have this
>https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6528
And some news analyzing it
>http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/01/06/new-hillary-emails-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/
Then I have this, its not from wikileaks, but is a leaked audio where Hillary refused to cooperate with Gadaffi's son on a ceasfire and elections.
>http://www.salon.com/2016/03/02/even_critics_understate_how_catastrophically_bad_the_hillary_clinton_led_nato_bombing_of_libya_was/
>>75793187
Tell him one watermark per picture is enough
okay. Ivan are you in America or Syria?
>>75793259
He knows, he was testing
>>75793091
Thanks familia
Will subscribe when im on pc
>>75793187
to be honest the only think i really wonder about here is that he still communicates with us despite the autism barrier that we project
>>75793193
>reminding the media that its just a suggestion is now backpedalling
wew laddy
>>75793367
we are surprisingly not that autistic when compared to rest of /pol/
>>75793367
Because we airstrike and shiet.
Also, we're more involved with the civil war than the actual fleeing refugees.
>>75793485
just take a step back and look at this or the last thread, all the weaboo shit is enough to turn normies down. but yeah, some threads here are on an entirely different level
>>75792724
Yeah, those kind of comments alienate the working class. And thats only the tip of the iceberg, Shillary always messes up in twitter.
>>75793547
This, we're now a faction helping SAA, how do you feel about that?
>>75788717
thicc
>>75793613
Yeah I don't get that anime cancer. I can't understand how these faggots can not just ONE time stay on topic and keep their anime shit in other threads or preferably on the anime board.
>>75793684
Feels good.
I wonder how the Israelis on here feel though :^)
>>75793684
>when you get tired from biji serok apo
>>75793766
Believe if i tell that /a/ sometimes you can't even discuss a shit, the autism is strong there.
>>75791331
I don’t really buy the whole pipeline conspiracy theory. I mean at the time Iraq would probably have bent backwards to have it pass their territory, hell if the proposal came today they would probably approve it tomorrow.
Not saying that you support it or anything but that picture never made any sense to me.
>>75793896
hey wake him up, Kurdistan isn't gonna make it self.
>>75788511
At first I was like...
>>75793541
Not really an achievement
>>75794056
But then I was all...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVDOoHeoFAI
>>75792037
what the fuck lol
there is not a single thing wrong in what he said
is she retarded?
>>75793982
>wake him up
good luck with that :D
>>75794107
/pol/ is just Trump, ok, like Trump too, but for god sake, we need another shit to discuss too
>>75794107
ehh its something at least
>>75788511
What? Wtf happened? I thought he became some kind of supershitposter. Invulnurbale to anything we (and mostly Minnesota) says.
Superotto the Superroach.
>>75793982
>can't wake up
>>75793766
I don't care about animefags as long as they keep /sg/ alive.
>>75794056
>>75794129
>masked man?
>big buy?
![[HorribleSubs] Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2016.05.14_23.01.33].png](https://i.imgur.com/NMhrudI.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Tanaka-kun wa Itsumo Kedaruge - 06 [720p].mkv_snapshot_05.57_[2016.05.14_23.01.33].png")
>>75793907
this is 4chan it's strong everywhere
>>75793547
>Also, we're more involved with the civil war than the actual fleeing refugees.
Ayy.
>>75794129
0:36
HAHAHAHA what a fucking fat pussy shit.
>>75794185
man I hope you get banned as well. maybe then this place will be more tolerable
>>75794362
Ivan is from Mongolia
>>75794185
maybe if they shot him some more, huh?
>>75794322
>wake me up inside
>>75794660
https://twitter.com/IvanSidorenko1/status/738123254909538304
>>75793766
I am proud to say that I have never posted Anime on this, nkr have I,watcjed any.
I have panzergirls downlkaded though. Might watch in the vacation/ holiday or however you call it.
The time I dont have to go to school.
What does he mean?
>>75794902
saa is going to Mongolia
>>75793766
nah, it's fine as long as they just use it to post a pic along with their post, it only gets really bad when they start discussing it or posting it without anything else...
I don't have it saved, but anyone remember the /ug/ meme with the destroyed hohol tanks and the badly drawn crying hedgehogs? That's what i mean, it must look completly fucking autistic to anyone that doesn't know the story behind it. Heck, it looks completly fucking autistic when you know the story behind it.
>>75794159
it was said in a context that implied that trump doesn't think women are working just as hard. Of course that doesn't work any longer when you put it out of context and post it on your twitter and not to some fringe feminist group, so it looks just like advertisement for trump. Some people think hillary has moles in her campaign that try to fuck it up, because no one should be able to be this disconnected from reality/retarded...
>>75794902
he lives in mongolia? No fucking clue
>>75793952
I'm on the fence with that one, but it could be one of many things to take into consideration.
Read some article online about.
>>75794391
>>75788511
that bitches first question was dumb as fuck, i would have had her carried out and shot.
assad, however, is badass, and handled it like a champion.
>>75793766
I remember the time where anime reaction images were common on every board.
>>75794902
>>75793547
>Also, we're more involved with the civil war than the actual fleeing refugees.
kek
>>75795158
They always were
>>75793620
>Run for president of the USA
>Doesn't know how to make Venn diagrams
Oh for goodness sake Clinton
>>75794640
dusuk toleransli trabzon erkegi :D
>>75794838
>waste bullets
that is taxmoney you know
It is a weird thing to say but I cant wait for 2016 to become 2017.
Last new years eve I made a map of the war in Syria. That map had my predictions of all the gains that would happen this year. It would be cool to see how much of it became true. So far, on some points it became trough. On other poits gains were made were I didnt suspect them and on other fronts there werent any gains made,yet.
Cant wait to share it with you on new years eve.
That is, if I dont get drunk and forget about it. But you guys are always with me were i go. Especially the Turks. Their shitposting gave me cancer.
>>75795283
I wonder if they removed it by now
>>75794902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW7uvYz9yjA
>>75795283
Also, nice source Clinton
>>75795290
>erkegi
>implying he is not a trap
>>75795109
Which video are you referring to?
>>75794902
Shut.
It.
Down.
>>75795519
the interview with assad probably
>>75794640
>only turk that contributes to the thread
>hopes he get banned
Fuck off
![220px-Sidorenko[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/nACLu3j.png "220px-Sidorenko[1].png")
>>75792932
Ivan Sidorenko is the name of a famous soviet sniper ace
ya'll dun goofd
>>75795519
the interview, sry
>>75795618
yes
ISIS Giant Executioner (Bulldozer) Captured by Syrian Army
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=78f_1464793708#OpIlChKSRkhgG4ix.99
Battles For Syria - 31 May 2016
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cb9_1464797153#QKxT780jPvdt05Fe.99
Dramatic Rescue: 'White Helmets' save Kid after Russian Bomb
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e7d_1464808181#2Vt1YZT0PM3aIGD6.99
(June 1, 2016) Syrian Army Is Looting Palmyra - Says Archaeologists
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=66e_1464804138#UbxdcxpxJe06jU06.99
Fresh shelling in Syria kills 42 civilians, says (meme) monitoring group
>http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3f2_1464812105#hqzcBWSWEWbZPzAm.99
Damn that passive argisveness.
I doubt that hoholmaps knows that there are moswuitos transmitting diseases in Syria and Iraq due to the rotting bodies.
Pic related
>>75796019
They need it before to interact with SAA
Röpcke Gold:
>Everyone, including myself, thought #Marea and #Azaz would be red lines for #Turkey. But they are not. In Syria,red lines are drawn in sand.
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/738110671301271552
>>75795728
>What is a nom de guerre
>>75795867
>ISIS Giant Executioner (Bulldozer) Captured by Syrian Army
was getting caugth part of your plan?
>>75796333
haha turkey loving faggot
>>75796429
They expect one of in the reckage
>>75796333
it will be glorious once his nusra buddies in azaz finally fall
>>75796333
>>75789761
First fucking paragraph.
>https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/18328
>metropoll survey: %53 in turkey will say no to presidential system in the referendum
who wants to bet on some turkish chimpouts on akps side?
>>75795158
they still are
its just that the newcomers think that this is not an erotic mongolian mural painting website
they will learn though
over 1 hour off rebel combat footage in east ghouta from their haydays in 2013
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8A_1hvXeRY
It is at least new to me
>>75796333
>"Dear followers,
did ANY politician or political organisation condemn the Russian attacks on Idlib city on Tuesday night that killed 50 civ?!"
Yes. You and all the moderate beheaders.
>>75795403
Kek
Julian Röpcke @JulianRoepcke 16h16 hours ago
.@mod_russia thinks the world is clueless & must believe its lies.
We are not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV1lTv-89GY
#PutinAtWar
>kek he does not understand humanitarian bombing / pest control
>>75796855
Here fresh OC extra for you
>mfw doing shity OC after 2-3 month stop
>>75788833
Added RT part
>>75797501
Are you that bored that you need to come to this thread to shitpost so badly?
>>75797618
Change the part about "Ivan is a friend of the Russian MoD, he can call airstrikes"
It's cringey and autistic as fuck. He's just a normal guy
>>75797799
Now that's autism.
>>75797799
r u ok anon?
>>75797799
Calm down Favelas, don't you have poo water to clean?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0enA35H3jI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RkTiD0dnL8
>>75796988
>>75797258
>>75797799
>>75797501
dude, everybody gets it, you're a terrorist and hate freedom.
shut up.
>>75797618
Good work, anon.
>>75797964
He is a very poor huehue. Look he doesn't even has enough money to fix his keyboard.
>>75798051
this should be the last (You) you get here tonight.
>>75797799
t. Abu Hajaar
>>75796588
you are a big guy
>>75798217
poor guy's capslock button is broken :((
>>75798225
>mfw Abu Hajaar made it into memehood
>>75798307
4 u
>>75798364
Yeah but no one even remembers Khattab?
Gave me a bit of the feels that part.
Also: Is somebody else listening to mad mongolian throat singing since this post? >>75794902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJdb30bLJ6Q
>>75798727
>those fighters were fighting for freedom
>mfw
I want the same stuff you are smoking!
>>75798727
Why are you sitting on your ass then? ISIS can sure use any manpower they can get since they are getting BTFO'D on all fronts.
>>75797799
Sperging out again?
>>75798494
? Sauce
>>75798727
Looks like someone's been in mum's basement for too long as well.
>>75799091
Proofs
>taking all this bait
>>75798783
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPsUxLLeV1E
>>75799167
of Abu Hajaar and friends?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I
>>75799167
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52I
Walk in silence,Don't walk away, in silence.
See the danger,Always danger,Endless talking.
Life rebuilding,Don't walk away.
>>75799314
Gepard turrets?
>>75799306
Good song. Are they singing turkish? azerbaijani?
>>75796019
Obviously to help keep out the T*rks :^)
>>75799476
I have no clue. /k/ would know.
>>75799306
waw nice
>>75799763
well, i actually don't know. but it is not Turkish or Azerbaijani. Some other turkic language, i understand most of it..
>>75796333
Anyone else under the impression that the SDF advances were to divert ISIS away from the rebels?
>>75799476
Yeah looks like it
>>75799978
he is nogay from russia
>>75800209
Thanks
>>75799835
>>75800049
I think they are, I wonder where the picture was taken?
>>75791300
Maybe the airstrike finally got him?
Bump
https://soundcloud.com/grishanov/storm
>>75799835
Soviet ship-based gun AK-230.
Off to bed
good night /sg/
>>75801555
>not using based C
kek
>>75798119
Funny from a group that supports a dictator and oppresses 73% of the Sunnis in Syria
IS is the worst, followed by Assad and his dictatorship.
The only people in the fight worth backing are the democratic sunnis that just want representation.
You know, the ones Russia likes to bomb.
>>75801851
I'm Industrial, not a Informatic m8
Damm, adming delete post
>>75801851
>not coding in assembly
>>75802145
majority of assads army and government is sunni, most of the people that remain in government controlled areas too, try again faggot.
The sunni rebels don't want "representation", most of them are extremist nutjobs like ahrar ar sham and jaish al islam that share the same ideology as al nusra. Under assads government people of all religions can/could live in peace, under the rebels you either pay jizya or get lynched.
>>75802638
>>not coding in assembly
I do actually for android kernel hacking.
>>75802145
>sunni
>democratic
Pick one
Whats happening with Raqqa?
>>75802873
SAA are supposedly pulling forces together to launch an offensive. Seems pretty stupid though, they also need to take Al Tabqah first.
Kurds might have faked so that ISIS takes their forces to Raqqa and the Kurds can freely attack Manbij
Now, I know why ottoman when is not in this thread.
>>75797799
>THEY DAY WHEN ISIS OCCUPIES SYRIA AND BEHEADS ASSAD WILL BE THE MOST GLORIOUS MELTDOWN THAT THIS GENERAL WILL EVER SEE.
>ISIS OCCUPIES SYRIA AND BEHEADS ASSAD WILL BE THE MOST GLORIOUS MELTDOWN THAT THIS GENERAL WILL EVER SEE.
>ISIS OCCUPIES SYRIA AND BEHEADS ASSAD
Top fucking kek mate, keep your wet dreams to yourself
>>75793684
Please post the aftermath you autobahn.
Who can run me down on Assad's policies and actions in Syria? What are his goals, and why is he important?
>>75802638
There are travel restrictions for men aged 18 to 42. Syria is majority Sunni, of course there will be areas under government control that are majority Sunni.
IS is also killing indiscriminately so not really that surprising that Sunnis are trying to stay safe.
The Syrian army had about a 50% defection rate when Civil war broke out. 70% of the career soldiers are Alawites and many units have 80% of their officers as Alawites.
There is plenty of nutjobs on both sides, a country that has representation that is more balanced to it's population base is likely to be the more peaceful country.
Even if Assad wins, he will be responsible for killing thousands of non-IS Sunnis and inviting the Russians in to help kill his countrymen as well. This is just an IS recruiting machine.
If the Sunnis win, IS will cease to be attractive to the majority of Sunnis so will diminish and be easier to snuff out.
Syria and the Middle East is a problematic situation. Muslims that sense weakness will split along Shia/Sunni lines and armed conflict is inevitable.
There likely will not be stability in the region for a very long time. With or without IS, it is just becoming a proxy battlefield for Iran and Saudis to wrestle for the prime Caliphate.
>>75802145
Except said "muderate rebels" are long dead (way before Russia's first bombing campain).
I think one Chris Stevens wasn't enough for you Burger, how about another one.
daily reminder that Assad uses barrel bombs!
>>75805012
assad is le ebil dictator :DDD
>>75804787
>If the Sunnis win, IS will cease to be attractive to the majority of Sunnis so will diminish and be easier to snuff out
Nice magic trick. And angels will come and sing a song to ressurect the deads. Assad is a butcher, but he is the legitimate butcher, period. Plus, I would feel far more safe with him fighting IS rather than rebels fuckwits, whose main hobby is to turn traitor as soon as they smell money or see a Russian plane.
>>75804676
The Jews want to build an oil pipeline from Qatar through Syria to Europe, so Eurocucks won't have to rely on Russian oil.
Assad is also Allied with Iran, and if the Jews attack Assad Iran will be forced to join.
And Iran does not have a Jewish controlled central bank which triggers Lord Rothschild since there are shekels he cannot steal
>>75805012
Yes yes Assad is an ebil dictator who is like anudda shoah!
>>75805012
>>75805371
I see. Where should I go to fill myself in on this whole mess?
this picture is faked. the real one has moderate rebel flags (aka nusra flags) and a picture of abu bakar al baghdadi
t. MSM agent
>>75803436
>>75805308
Westerners don't quite seem to understand the culture/people of the Middle-East.
They don't understand that only under a "dictator" of some sorts that everyone can live together in relative peace.
It's shit, yes, but it's called reality.
>>75805771
It's been on 4skins for years now.
Here's a red-pill to get started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4
Also read up on the Federal Reserve, which also plays a big part in this.
>>75802638
Are they wearing paper masks under their towels?
>>75804839
That is just an oversimplification to justify an uneducated position.
Are all Shias extremists? Are all Sunnis extremists?
Or is it any Sunni that doesn't want to follow Assad is an extremist?
There are Sunni extremists just like there are Shia extremists.
Just the reality of a not so clean war that isn't the good guys against the bad guys. It's just the majority of the population bad guys versus the minority of the population bad guys with the US, Turkey, Russia, Iran, extremists groups on both sides, Kurds and a few others thrown in.
You can cheer for what ever side you want but don't kid yourself that they are the "right" side.
>>75805308
>>75805981
I don't think "Westerners" have a problem with that. It just seems the strong arm should at least be representative of the majority and not the minority.
Seems like it is the best of a worst situation for long term peace.
Assad and his history has a very low chance of getting through this and rebuilding a peaceful Syria.
It will just continue to be the proxy battleground.
But some are rooting for the ongoing battleground to let all of the extremists both Shia and Sunni kill each other.
More likely to just breed more extremists instead of a sum reduction in them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbZ7xa8pwVs
biji, biji etc.
>>75807118
>but don't kid yourself that they are the "right" side.
We cheer for the faction that will bring more stability to the country/region.
>>75807766
>italy
>>75788619
The day when someone, somewhere got literally shitposted to death.
>>75807449
He's changed a lot of his policies since the war.
You don't have to belong to the Ba'ath Party anymore in order to run - should you get enough votes to be a candidate.
I personally wouldn't really have changed that, but rather maybe cut off a tiny bit of land and give the FSA and their followers some autonomy and eventually try get them as far away as possible. People like that won't ever change - doesn't matter how much Assad gives in to their demands, they'll always want more and more until Syria fits their description.
>>75805771
>>75806043
I like that channel.
This one is also pretty good to follow up with and focuses more on the now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K20fm2166WM
>>75807766
That is an opinion.
Just like I am rooting for the side I feel will bring the most stability. I also identify the IS component as not being good for either side or the world for that manner.
I don't say Assad is an extremist or all Shias are extremists, I just say that he is a dictator of a minority faction that rules over the Sunni Majority.
My main point is that you can pick the side you think will be the "best" winner but that doesn't mean that they are the good guys and it doesn't mean the other side is a 100% pack of rabid extremists
>>75807118
>Or is it any Sunni that doesn't want to follow Assad is an extremist?
Most of the ones that are willing to fight are, and that's really all you need to know.
>It's just the majority of the population bad guys versus the minority of the population bad guys with the US
What do you mean with minority? Assads government? They are no minority, his government is neither only alawite/shia, nor is a majority of the syrian population fighting against this government.
The choice is simple, you are either for the government which provided decent living quality and religious freedom for decades or you side with one of the dozens of rebel groups. The problem here is that by now the majority of the rebel groups are either straight out (sunni) extremist scum, or dependent on groups like that. With assads government there is a chance for recovery for syria, without it syria will end up just like lybia, probably worse.
>>75808114
I think the Ba'ath Party is written into the constitution as being a mandatory 50% plus unless I missed something or the constitution was changed.
I like the separation or Balkanization angle but many will say it has been tried and doesn't work well.
As it stands now, it would likely work better than what is happening now and what will likely happen the future.
>>75808265
>Most of the ones that are willing to fight are, and that's really all you need to know.
That is just nonsense and you know it. IS is fighting the moderate Sunnis as much as they are fighting the Shias.
Syria is 73% Sunni, the government is not representative of this.
>>75807118
There's no right side in a Civil War, I know my country's story well. Took us like a century to settle things down from the Revolution to the end of the Second Empire.
Yet, as a European I simply cannot support rebels that shoots, fire with a mortar or whatever, yelling "Allah Huakbar". That's it. You don't fight yelling "God is Great" or "Long Live Jesus" every goddam 5 minutes without being nuts.
The only decent and moderate rebels are the SDF, but they are not fighting Assad (yet), and Russia has a let's say rather good contact with them, while they are being openly helped by the US. The rest are just djihadi scums. They can burn for all I care.
>>75808132
>Just like I am rooting for the side I feel will bring the most stability
Which is a clusterfuck of rebel groups that ideologically range from "genocide all christians/alawites/yazidis" to "as long as they pay jizya they can life" to "we really want democracy and the right to practise whatever religion you want".
What the fuck do you think will happen should they win? The second their common enemy is gone they'll do what they've done for centuries, jump at each others throat. And what will remain then are the largest fractions, Jaish al Islam, Ahrar ar Sham, Al Nusra and friends. Take a guess on which side of the spectrum they are.
>>75807919
I assume the guy who made that images put Italy because of their shilling and the EU sanction imposed on Syria. But Italy is mostly coerced to do that, unlike the other flags.
>>75808132
I don't think any sane person here is ever saying, genuinely that is, that Assad is a good guy - or that his regime is either.
He is the only one, at the moment, that can keep the country stable (all sects) - more so than any other faction/group.
Which country in the world do you consider as "good"?
>>75808808
when I think of italy, this is literally the first thing that comes to mind
>>75808132
The "other side" is composed of hundreds of factions. If the rebels win, expect a Somalia 2.0
>>75808569
>That is just nonsense and you know it.
No, it's not. The majority of the rebels territory is held by Jaish al Islam, Ahrar ar Sham and al Nusra, the rest is a clusterfuck of dozens of smaller fractions. The ones that don't share their ideology with those big three are in most cases dependent on them, which isn't really that much better at all.
>IS is fighting the moderate Sunnis as much as they are fighting the Shias.
Is is fighting those groups as much as some of these groups are fighting each other. They cooperated in some cases, fought each other in others.
>Syria is 73% Sunni, the government is not representative of this.
It doesn't need to be. What it needs to do is provide the chance of a stable society for (almost) all syrians, and that's what it has done for decades.
>>75808569
>Syria is 73% Sunni, the government is not representative of this.
You may need to look on this link and see who rules syria:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Ministers_%28Syria%29
Open and see what religion are the guys of Assad's cabinet, and you'll realize most of them are Sunni, there are some christians and alawites.
>>75808992
I've never watched that anime mate, maybe I'll do in-between the next anime season.
>>75807704
i hate this music genre, whatever it is called
a lot of middle-easterners use it, including some turks, every song made in this style sounds like the same uncreative shit-pile to me
eh
>>75808265
>With assads government there is a chance for recovery for syria
I doubt it. Assad lost all his legitimacy with large parts of the population. People here hype him because he's a funny maymay and is killing terrorists. But he can never hope to regain a real hold in most parts of Syria. He is also to weak to win outright against the rebels.
His best tactic was from the beginning: Push the narrative that the insurrection is a radical islamist one (which became a self fulfilling prophecy; Russia had a similar tactic in the second Chechen war) and fuel sectarian conflicts. This consolidated the support for the regime, since the minorities (expecially from the alawites, but also from the Druze and Christians) feared total genocide from the Sunni arab majority. This saved Assad, but winning is now impossible. Also, the Baath party, which was a bullwark for the lower class sunni arab - government relationship (actually an important pillar of the regime) lost all much of its importance when Bashir came into power. And the old pan-arab anti-zionist front-line state ideology crap (Assad said in an interview that because of this, the "arab spring" can't affect Syria)? Everyone knows by know that it's a joke.
>Tavhid va Jihod (Uzbek group under JaN) training in Aleppo
https://twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/738165652695830529
>>75809643
I listened to a playlist full of this and you're absolutely right. It's almost like one long song.
I rather like it, though.
But give me some good middle eastern folk music, wise kebab man.
>>75809928
the government still holds almost all major population centers, i think they still have a chance of recovery under assad. It's going to take a long time, but it could eventuall work. There is no alternative anyways, eventuall it works out at some point ot the country becomes a failed state.
He'll get tons of support from iran and russia too since they are interested in the formation of a shia controlled iran-iraq-syria axis.
>>75809578
>Assad's cabinet
If you think any of those clowns has any real power, you don't understand the regime.
>>75809928
Yeah, ony rational option for him would be to negociate with SDF after IS and Nosra/Djihadists are all wiped out from Western and Nothern Syria. Once this is done, cleansing the East would be a good way to try to see if both sides can work together for each others benefit.
>>75810432
Most of them are probably just tools, but it's not like its any different in most other arab countries. A real democracy in those societys won't work for decades/centuries to come, the peasants would just vote for something like the muslim brotherhood again and it'd become a shitshow in a matter of years.
Anyways, i'm off to sleep now
>>75810734
negotiating with SDF really doesn't mean much more than negotiating with the kurds. The other (rather small ) groups that are a part of it can be fobbed with breadcrumbs.
>>75808132
The whole conflict is the equivalent of the Thirty Years' War in Europe, just one big clusterfuck where every single faction has a reason to declare war even on their close allies just because it's for shit and giggles.
The only difference is we got much more powerful weapons today.
It's about religion, politics, city vs rural, just any reason you could make up.
They also suck, but it's the least fucked up faction involved in a pissing into a sea of piss contest.
>Kurds
>Good
>Christian Assyrians: Kurdish Muslims in Syria Imposing Distorted, Pro-Kurd Bible Education
>http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/27/report-christian-assyrians-accuse-syrian-kurds-imposing-education-curriculum-alters-old-testament/
>>75810272
indeed, he also holds the major population centers because he forced them to flee to the government controlled side. Mao said "a revolutionary has to move in the masses of the poeple like a fish in the ocean" (or something). Assad's counter insurgency strategy: Poison the ocean!
It worked when his father did it (Hama massacre, look it up). It didn't work today because Assad had to be more careful (danger of intervention) and also the spread of modern means of communication wich undermines the propaganda advantage of autoritarian states.
The rebels can't win and Assad can't beat them. How it will end? I don't know. Maybe some federal solution with demilitarized zones or something, with Russian mediation.
>>75809643
>Turkish Regime Seeks Harboring Perpetrators of Massacres against Syrian People: Turkish MP
http://syriatimes.sy/index.php/news/regional/24296-turkish-regime-seeks-harboring-perpetrators-of-massacres-against-syrian-people-turkish-mp
>>75811242
take a look at the picture of the post you replied to.
Assad can beat the rebels, but it's going to take its time. He'll probably have to deal with some of the more resilent groups for a few decades, but that's nothing a strong government couldn't manage.Taking aleppo and the areas around damascus and daraa back is all it takes and he'll have a neat front towards the east of the coutry, and there he only has to defend/stabilize some villages and make sure he controls the oil/gas fields. Let the rebels that remain stay in the desert and go full scorched earth every time they try to star shit.
>>75810432
Errr the point was to show that the government institutions have a lot of Sunni personnel. They guy was describing it as if the government was composed of only Alawites. I don't really know how much power they have. Also lets remember that when Hafez rose to power he had the backing of many sunni businessmen, its no like if sunnis are completely relegated from power in Syria.
>>75810898
>negotiating with SDF really doesn't mean much more than negotiating with the US
ftfy
>>75810226
well i don't know much about other middle-eastern folk music, i can recommend some turkish genres
ashik music is a large one. ashik were traveling folk bards/poets, it is mostly composed of a single man with a baglama/saz singing poems. one example would be;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kylN0EbXlLY
on islamic music we have sufi(mevlevi) music;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YJtH5qB3Og
which is boring unless you are watching some whirling dervishes live or some alevi music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCCbVJkt_0
but my favorite turkish music genre is late ottoman classical(which is not folk music). its a mix of eastern and western classical music. some examples from it;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9No8kVSXqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPTg_H_rP5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDqLg1IGzLk
>>75812271
eastern front/isis is way easier opponent and will fall faster than the rebels in aleppo, idlib, damascus. these are the factions getting support from actual states. noone is willing to openly or even covertly support isis at the moment because it will bring them too much heat with the US, since actual us troops are fighting agaisnt them.
>>75813231
now that was helpful, thanks. I will go to sleep and listen to sounds of the morning-land.
(also, late ottoman classical? I didn't even know that this exists. Pretty cool, I thought they were only beating drums while yelling and raping little greek boys bak then. Pretty cool)
What's Assad going to do with the YPG?
They will not give up their arms and Syria does not want to give them a state
>>75812697
It's been said before that assassinating Assad is a pointless endeavour because the country is ruled by his family, and therefore another family figurehead would just simply take his place. Nothing would change
>>75788619
>>75789910
It was glorious, brehs
whaddup niggas
>>75813294
the US have fucked up big time there since they have had 2 agencies and an ally in a free for all battle in Syria/Iraq/Turkey.
the steam group now has 7 members
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/syriagenerals
>>75815951
i dont get what you are saying, the 2 agencies are nusra and isis and turkey is the ally ?
that being said i dont see how the usa could directly have helped isis. they probably supported some "rebel"elements that defected but i think isis is all middle-east backed (and turkey while they were still doing bussiness with erdogans son)
>>75789910
I'm seriously going to add "Assisting in controlling Russian MoD air strikes against ISIS" into my CV.
Ill bury it and see if anyone notices.
>>75816866
Basically this. All the while Turkey supports both while dropping bombs at Kurds that are US-Israel backed.
What's sg opinion on afghani shia militias?
Anyone got a link to the post where ottoman when?'s face was revealed? or a picture of the post???
>>75820215
>>75818939
Some just want money, some don't have a choice, and some want to save their shia brethren from takfiris.
>>75820396
Thanks babe
>>75820215
>>75820396
He looks like a fish
>>75820396
Wait a second, how did you manage to find his image though? Looks like twitter?
I'm confused.
>>75818939
arent afghanis and pakis the grunts that form the IRGC brigades in syria?
i remember reading that irgc officers are iranians whereas the soldiers are from afghanistan and pakistan that faced jail sentence for illegally entering iran or some other shit.
explains the incompetence and lack of gains plus the deaths of high ranking iranian officers.
also they are fighting in a place they dont know alongside troops theyve never fought with and with air and artillery support that are not iranian.
tl;dr they are shit
