>be vegan
>climb Everest to prove you are not weak
>die
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/22/dutch-and-australian-climbers-die-after-reaching-everest-summit/
"It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak," Dr Strydom said in March. "By climbing the seven summits we want to prove that vegans can do anything and more."
Pescetarianism is the only good diet to follow. Anything more limited is stupid.
>>74730321
Well in their defense they didn't say anything about coming down.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>74730321
Bill's a vegan. We all know how well that's doing for him.
BTFO
>>74730321
>>74730321
We should thank them for weeding out herbivores from the human race.
>>74730321
How many of those other 250 deaths are non-vegans? All of them?
>>74730801
No, no, no. The correct question to ask is: "How many vegans successfully climbed Everest? 0?"
More than 4000 meat-eaters did.
>>74730321
He used up all his oxygen by constantly telling everyone that he was a vegan
A vegan, Dr Strydom was motivated to tackle Everest by challenging the diet's stereotypes.
"It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak," Dr Strydom said in March. "By climbing the seven summits we want to prove that vegans can do anything and more."
>>74730510
HAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING KEK
"It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak,"
"Eric Arnold, 35, had enough bottled oxygen with him, as well as climbing partners, but he complained of getting weak and died"
>>74730943
How can you tell me which questions to ask? This is an n of 1, and we know regular diets still can end in death, so there is no conclusions to draw. They clearly weren't the most powerful vegan athletes.
>>74730510
TPBP
>>74730321
Now thats fucking funny
>>74731199
0 vegans succesfully climbed Everest.
ZERO
E
R
O
That says something. This isn't even up for debate.
>>74730507
>doesn't eat land animal meat for no fucking reason
>calls other diets limited and stupid
Fuck off, retard.
>fat fucks ITT acting like you're any better than vegans
same degenerate scum
>>74730507
The Mount Athos diet is objectively the best diet
>>74730321
>two vegans died to prove the vegan way of life
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>74731289
Ok, Sweden 2.0. I bet your diet consisting of Muslim cum is superior.
>>74731193
He wasn't the vegan though.
>>74731280
>meat
>good
enjoy cancer
I thought you guys were redpilled in here
>>74730510
>>74730321
no, they did everything the told.
checklist:
climbing the mount everest. done
and more (aka dying). done
>>74731490
As if fish or plants didn't cause cancer.
Kill yourself.
>>74730949
>>74731193
>>74731274
>>74730510
fucking kek
>>74731289
>projecting this hard to reassure himself that he "fits in"
Nah man, I lift to distract myself from women and life's troubles
>>74731490
>vegans
>"WE DUN GET DA CANCER"
>look like fucking skeletons
>have horrible grey skin
>smell like shit
>"LOOK WE SO HEALTHY"
>"IF YOU EAT MEAT YOU BE FAT!"
>>74731490
The sun can give you cancer too. You on the "not going outside" diet as well?
>>74731550
>>74731694
>muh meat
nope
youre biased as fuck, there are a ton of studies that prove that animal products cause cancer, go look it up
>"It seems that people have this warped idea of vegans being malnourished and weak," Strydom was quoted as saying. "By climbing the seven summits we want to prove that vegans can do anything and more."
Holy shit. It's a real quote.
>mfw she lectures at my Uni
It literally makes it 10x funnier.
>>74730321
>Vegans
>>74731754
>"WE DUUUUN GET CANCER"
>"WE LOOK SO HEALTHY"
Vegans look like the fucking aliens from Destroy all humans. Why would you give a fuck about cancer when you constantly look like you're going to drop dead from exhaustion?
If your only reason for being a vegan is a irrational disease that will kill you anyway when you're already too weak to fight something like the common cold, you're retarded.
>>74730321
Animal fat, it helps to keep you warm.
>>74731754
Everything causes cancer, you stupid fuck. There is zero reason to cut out all meat out of your diet.
Nothing is going to happen to you if you eat a piece of stake once a month. In fact, it's healthier to have a balanced varied diet.
>>74730321
>>74730605
he is on paleo now
>>74732277
We literally breathe in a carcinogenic gas every day of our lives. Oxygen is super damaging to our bodies. People who do shitloads of cardio age faster than the general population. Just remeber, cardio kills gains.
Can we convince these two to climb the everest to prove the superiority of their fruit diet?
>>74732495
Not gonna lie, I'd plow that fruity ass.
>>74732451
Free radical oxygen particles cause damage. Drink Earl Grey tea to reduce damage. It's what Jean-Luc Picard does.
>>74731754
>you're biased as fuck
He says, while being biased as fuck
Also, Cancer is a buzzword nowadays because it can mean a million different things. If you want to be taken seriously, speak with proper terms.
>>74731986
>cherrypicking some skeleton vegans
>every vegan looks like that
nope
>>74732277
the thing is not the possibility but the chance
eating meat will definitely give you cancer and heartdisease at a young age
Im just argueing with bluepilled faggots here, just do your research
you need to eat mainly fruit with some fish and vegs for optimal health
>>74732451
Everything in moderation. Same with cardio. If you go full cardio you're going to die just as fast as a fat fuck.
The two major causes of heart attacks are obesity and excessive cardio.
>>74732625
Red meat causes inflammation. Inflammation may cause problems. Eat some lettuce with the meat to prevent inflammation. There was a huge thread about this a while back.
I work with a bunch of vegans and I have never in my life seen a more sickly group of people. They constantly complain about feeling like shit and constantly use sick time to leave work early because they feel so bad.
Maybe it's a protein deficiency? Maybe it's the fact that all they bring for lunch is microwaveable vegan shit?
>>74730321
>Celebrating someone's death because you follow a different diet than they do
In case you're wondering? You people are the degenerates. You are scumbags.
>>74732699
Your Mum causes local inflammation of my penis.
>>74732777
>Trips
She's 50. You're into milfs?
>>74732764
literally noone is protein deficient
their problem is probally that they eat to little because vegan foods have so little calories compared to ''normal'' food which is also why most vegans are thin
>>74731490
100% of people who caught cancer and died drank water at some point in their lives.
/pol/ conclusion: the two are unrelated.
your conclsion: "water causes cancer!"
>>74732774
Nah we're great though
>>74732832
>not being into an experienced woman who knows how to please a man
>>74732593
OK. What about the blonde chick in front of him?
>>74732832
You can watch if you like.
>>74732593
Me too. The chick is alright looking as well
>>74732860
Eat a chicken breast, toothpaste.
>>74730510
Savage
You are welcome in Aus
>>74732863
uninformed faggot detected
go check the facts, go read some studies
>>74732774
>Celebrating
Laughing at someone is "celebrating" them now?
>>74731262
Took me way to long to realize that eyeless girl with the giant eyebrows indeed did have eyes, and they were her giant eyebrows. Those last two need to be in the front to prevent this kind of confusion.
>>74732939
>eat this hormone chlorine filled meat
no thanks
>>74732905
>>74732929
>Implying I would even touch a slut that wore rainbow arm warmers.
>>74731280
Bacon flag saying it like it is.
>>74732962
>go check the facts, go read some studies
Yeah thanks I have at several points. The error bars are usually bigger than the graphs.
I'll keep eating meat AND vegetables, exercising and not using sugar or substitutes.
My grandparents lived well int their 90's despite lacking medical care and a meaty diet. How did yours do?
>>74730321
Honestly, the problem is not that nbody can actually be strong and healthy on a vegan diet. There are fuck loads of Indians, even wrestlers and body builders on strictly vegan diets for hundreds of generations.
The problem is that you gotta get all the nutrients and eat what your body requires to exist in the environment you live in. Most of these 'vegans' are fucking idiotic uneducated fad hoppers and the required nutrients from non-meat, etc sources simply aren't available/grown in your areas.
>>74732699
>Fuck yo inflammation
-me, after popping a pill of 100mg betamethasone after every meal
This "inflammation is inherently bad" -meme has to stop. Holding your hands up for a minute is bad for you because it causes an inflammatory reaction in your body.
>>74732892
>liking saggy tits
>>74732926
go kill yourself
>>74733022
>what is free range
>>74730321
Name one vitamin/mineral/essential aminoacid that you cannot obtain with a vegan diet?
>>74730321
>mfw she was actually my teacher this year
>>74733117
>inflammation is inherently bad meme
>your intestines should be inflamed
Lay off the vodka you Mongol
>>74733146
It's too late mate, they're dead.
>>74733099
>sugar is bad
>hormone filles meat is good
l
m
a
o
>>74730321
>>74733202
Not an argument addressing my point.
>>74733099
Both my scottish grannies lived to over 100 despite eating nothing but meat and potatoes most of their lives. Cancer is just luck of the draw, sure there is shit you can do to mitigate your risks but you can be perfectly healthy and still get struck down. Do whatever the fuck you want, who wants to be 90 and stuck in a home waiting to die anyway?
>>74733215
>Grass fed beef is full of artificial hormones
Funny, I grew up on a beef farm, so I think I know just a tad more than you do about beef and what goes into it, and there's no hormones or supplements of any kind that goes into it unless you buy that american grain fed shit.
Nice meme though.
>>74732774
You know where you are?
>>74733298
Uh dude, my gran died at 90 from falling out of a tree. She was picking apples.
Toothpaste is likely in his 20's and probably can't climb a tree right now.
>>74732774
Where do you think that you are?
>>74733189
>implying it's a strong inflammation, akin to some wound oozing puss and being all swollen up.
It's less than the aftermath of a fillip. Normies just eat up that shit because they connect the word inflammation with their terrible inflammated sores from some childhood trauma.
>>74730321
wew lad
>>74731289
>fat used as both an energy reserve and insulator
CHECK MATE ATHIEST
>>74733245
vitamin B12 - the only way for a vegan to get it is to eat unwashed plants (and even then they'll get way too little) - because animal droppings and traces of rotten flesh are the only things putting B12 in there :^)
if we take vegans seriously, we can expect them to remove microscopical amounts of animal parts aswell, which means they won't get B12.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Non-animal_sources
>>74732624
>earl grey
>actual tea
Pick one gay boy
>>74730507
>Doyle is all big and strong, probably because he eats all that fish.
McPoyles pls go. Pescatarianism is for people who don't understand animal husbandry.
>>74733528
I agree, vitamin b12 is obtainable as vegan.
>>74733146
It's not really about not being able to obtain it, it's about obtaining enough of it.
Things like calcium, iron, omega 3.. you would need to eat a whole lot more of something to reach the same amount of nutrients you get from stuff like milk/beef/fish (respectively).
>>74731754
Carcinogens cause cancer, you idiot. Cooking anything adds carcinogens to it, albeit in varied amounts.
Probably have a higher chance of developing cancer from inhaling car smog all day.
>>74733692
yes, if you are being hypocritical and choose to eat animal shit ( = animal products = non-vegan ) by not washing your veggies.
didn't expect a delusional fag to accept a valid counter-argument to his fad of a lifestyle anyway, so whatever. stay weak, fag.
>>74732962
The studies on that are for processed meats only, and the % increase is based off the original % which was low to begin with, meaning it was a very marginal total difference in cancer risks. Piss off.
How come it's okay to kill plants, but not animals? Plants are objectively more important to the planet.
>>74730510
Goddamn it Alexandroslav
>>74730510
Kek
I remember some vegan listing a bunch of MMA and boxers that were vegans, to prove how tough they were. Every one of them had shit records with very few knockouts.
In boxing, Timothy Bradley is a perfect example. Looks like a tough nig but he couldn't knockout a child. Because he's vegan.
>>74733158
She died doing what she loved: being a vegan.
>>74733528
And how do animals get their b12? I hope youre not retarded eniugj to think they make b12
>>74730321
>>74733717
>it's about obtaining enough of it.
Of course, but this is human error, not vegan error.
>>74733799
>Vegetarians
Strict vegetarians and vegans are at greater risk than lacto-ovo vegetarians and nonvegetarians of developing vitamin B12 deficiency because natural food sources of vitamin B12 are limited to animal foods [5]. Fortified breakfast cereals are one of the few sources of vitamin B12 from plants and can be used as a dietary source of vitamin B12 for strict vegetarians and vegans.
>https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminB12-HealthProfessional/
>>74733955
Prokaryotes.
>Neither plants nor animals are independently capable of constructing vitamin B12. Only bacteria and archaea have the enzymes required for its biosynthesis.
>>74730321
>mfw
>>74731490
>>74731754
>>74732671
>>74732860
>>74732962
>>74733022
>>74733215
Vegan on damage control!
Face it, you're just a bunch of malnourished whiny left-wing runts. Vegan ism is "blue pilled".
>>74730949
>>74733955
By eating more grass than a human could possibly hope to consume, what with their multiple large herbivore stomachs, unlike our one omnivore one. A cow eats 24 fucking pounds of hay/grass/corn a day.
>dying to an intimate object
How do people do it?
>>74733955
>and how do animals
irrelevant to the discussion.
animals have different metabolisms and digestive tracts than we do. for instance, cows can gain nutrients from eating fucking grass, while a human would starve if he was given nothing to eat but grass. i therefore assume that many animals can break down b12-producing organisms in ways we can't.
not that it is (like above) relevant to the discussion. relevant is wether humans would get enough b12 by strictly eating vegan, and they don't. this is a fact, gayboy.
>>74730321
i am fully erect right now
>>74731490
You should kill yourself, twink. I bet you're skinnier than a malnourished rat.
>>74733963
>fortified foods
wow you are fucking retarded.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_fortification
>Food fortification or enrichment is the process of adding micronutrients (essential trace elements and vitamins) to food.
how exactly is obtaining b12 from animal sources and adding it to your then """"""vegan""""" meal vegan again? animal products are part of your diet if you eat "fortified" products, retard.
>>74734386
You haven't proven that fortified food/supplementation is based on animal products. Try again.
>>74733955
herbivores got gigantic stomachs in which countless different bacteria do all kinds of shit to ensure they get all their nutrients from just eating grass.
If you got a small stomach and a long colon you are a carni/omnivore.
>>74734451
not an argument
>>74733215
>>74733022
>>74732962
your idiocy has no bounds , you just discard all the facts told by doctors and biologs, It is amazing desu , without having so little knowladge you claim such fucking bullshit. You die or get weak if you try to fight nature you buttblasted piece of shit vegan. Humans eat meat , we are evolved to eat meat , meat is good for you , eating anything too much will result in death or something bad. Even kurds dont trigger me this much.
>>74732905
>>74732929
>when Aussies of /pol/ literally start to unconsciously become a hive-mind
>>74732774
It's sad sure, but people die. It's the irony that's funny. I felt bad, but read the first 3 greentexts in just the way they were put in suprrememe /pol fashion and couldn't stop laughing.
Death can be funny, even in my own family I've suffered many deaths and sometimes you just have to laugh. I hope I'm laughing on my way out of this world and I hope people are laughing at my funeral.
>>74733596
Fuck you, bergamot is great.
>>74734495
>You haven't made a valid point that vitamin b12 is only obtainable through animal sources
>not an argument
I am still waiting ;^)
>>74734550
yeah thats...thats basically all we do here.
>>74734451
just so we are clear:
you shifted from "hurrrr vegans get literally everything they need from a vegan diet" to "prove to me that artificially added micronutrients and vitamans were not obtain from animal sources" ?
in other words: you admit to having lost the discussion already, as you acknowledge that artificially adding substances to your diet is necessary?
and yeah, it seems i was wrong on the industrial production of b12:
>Industrial production of B12 is achieved through fermentation of selected microorganisms
that still means a vegan diet is a) unnatural b) unhealthy c) insufficient in providing everything a human needs, which was the whole discussion.
>>74733215
sugar is bad, it is literally poison it spikes your blood sugar levels , and your pancreas has to work over time causing diabetes
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371172/French-vegan-couple-face-jail-child-neglect-baby-died-vitamin-deficiency.html
>>74734587
Its actually all irrelevant because food fortification is a meme and barely works, if at all.
>>74734643
No you don't understand. Saying that fortified/supplements is non-vegan doesn't make it so. You need to show that it is.
There is still no proof ITT which shows that something essential to the human body isn't obtainable with a vegan diet.
>food arguments
>http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/18/de-blasio-fine-businesses-wrong-gender-pronouns/
>http://www.nyc.gov/html/cchr/html/law/gender-identity-legalguidance.shtml
>Greeting customers as “Mr.” or “Mrs.” — or even not using the pronoun “ze” or “zir” — could prove costly for New York City businesses under rules drafted by Mayor Bill de Blasio’s bureaucrats.
>The Gotham mayor’s Commission on Human Rights says entities that fail to address customers by their preferred gender pronouns and titles are in violation of the law and could be subject to penalties of up to $250,000.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/contact/contactus.aspx
If Murricunts don't do something about this law, it'll spread, like desegregation, feminism and gay rights spread in the past and gave us the situation we're in today. 10 years ago trannies were still rightfully considered mentally ill. Today they're off the DCM and getting their own bathrooms. Where will we be in 10 years if lefties keep getting their say?
>>74732266
>>74734731
Is this your opinion? If it is then your post has literally no value.
>>74734841
start arguing anytime
>>74734530
>even kurds don't trigger me this much
>>74732495
I FUCKING HATE THESE PEOPLE.
PLEASE LET THEM DIE.
>>74730321
Yes, you too can be big and strong eating plants.
Just like gorillas and hippos
>>74734999
What do you think about bill whittle? Is he redpilled?
/out/ related story.
> summer, temps reaching high 30s to mis 40s.
> be doing advanced survival course.
> 5 days in, of 12 days.
> no food for the past 4 days.
> come by a creek leading to a river.
> we all dedicate the better part of the day to rest while setting fishing nets and lines we made 2 days prior.
> instructors agree with decision.
> one dude goes out and spends most of the day and gets almost half a kilo of seeds.
> what a fucking champion. We can ground turn it to flour and make a simple bread, great to supplement the fish. It would be enough for everyone.
> the fish was plentiful but painstaking and time consuming to catch. But we spend more time to get extra for seedbros efforts.
> says he cant eat fish because vegan.
> the grains is for him to make up for the calories.
> uhhh ok. You spent all day to get 500g of seeds youll be lucky to break even calorie wise.
> instructors wtf.
> we end up sharing the extra fish.
> vegan guy eats bread.
Instructors told us privately that he wouldnt last too long.
2 days later has to drop out due to exhaustion.
>>74735085
If being a vegan turns me in to a nigger, all the more reason to eat a delicious steak.
>>74735088
hes cuckpilled
>>74733158
She taught you the most valuable lesson of all, don't be a retard..
>>74735088
Yes, but he's paid by Jews so he can't be honest on the problems with Jewish acts and ideology.
>>74735223
>implying he's black
>implying he isn't some green hybrid nigger
>>74735085
>vegan and lifting
how many supplements did this guy shove up his ass?
I hope you fuckers are ready to cringe.
God I fucking hate vegans. They're all goddamn autistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yslIMeMzGI
>>74735302
His blood is getting replaced with chlorophyll, in just a year from now he will take root and become a tree.
>>74732495
is...is she wearing a piece of fucking fruit around her neck?
>>74735302
look at those pecs , that should be enough for an answer
>Meat
>bad for you
Good goyim. A protein dominant diet with mostly lean meants, a moderate amount of vegetables, and a lite amount of fruit/complex carbs is the most well balanced and healthy diet.
>>74735302
That's the most pathetic chest I've ever seen.
>>74735566
>fat ass
>hides her small tits
why
>>74735669
>Implying there small
>Implying modestly sized but shapely small tits aren't objectively the best over cow-sized, stretch-marked, saggy tits
>>74735736
cow tits are a sign of a healthy woman
sounds like you're into traps, gaylord.
>>74734839
isn't that a direct violation of the first amendment?
>>74730510
Lost my shit
>>74735085
I remember watching a workout vid with this psychopath too.
He legitimately was struggling anywhere near a 3 plate deadlift, might not have been able to do if I recall correctly.
I've been lifting for 8, almost 9 years now, and I was bigger than this guy and considerably stronger by year 4.
What a fucking joke.
>>74735851
>dem puffy nips
oh
my
lord
i knew she's a jew-fiend
but i'd betray my aryan bros for 5 minutes with those funbags jesus fucking christ
>>74730949
toppest of keks
>>74730321
In the same article,
'Yuichiro Miura became the oldest person ever to reach the summit at the age of 80. Ten years earlier, he became the first septuagenarian do the same and was the first person to ski down the mountain aged 37.'
http://www.ibtimes.com/oldest-man-climb-mount-everest-yuichiro-miura-nearly-died-way-down-1282433
How fucking weak are those Vegans?
>>74730321
Thanks nature for removing these retards from the gene pool
>>74733146
Creatine
Weak people are weak. There are vegan body builders you close minded poofs
>>74733146
B-12
It's only found in meat/dairy products and essential for DNA and blood health. A lot of vegans either take supplements or injections of this because they completely lack it in a vegan diet.
>>74730949
10/10 pretty good m8
>>74736012
The kike is right
>>74736071
>bodybuilders
>strong
LaughingWhores.jpg
>>74735115
cant make this shit up kek
>>74730321
>>74736075
How are supplements not vegan?
>>74736173
I wish the only way I could hydrate myself for the rest of my life was licking the sweat off her tummy
>>74730321
>Eric Arnold, 35, had enough bottled oxygen with him, as well as climbing partners, but he complained of getting weak and died Friday night near South Col before he was able to get to a lower altitude, said Pasang Phurba of the Seven Summit Treks agency in Kathmandu, Nepal.
>Everest
>WITH OXYGEN
>Hard
Jesus fuck, did they go there with no fucking experience? Everest climbing has been casualiced to death in the last decade or so. I mean, why the fuck do you climb the highest mountain on earth with an equipment that makes the challenge basically the same as climbing a 3k mountain?
oh yeah, they wanted to prove a point because "fuggg the highest mountain on earth XXXDDDDDDDD". And now they are death
Not gonna miss them desu
>>74734777
>having to add substances somehow still means my diet is capable of providing me with everything i need
most retarded argument ever
applying your logic i could argue that eating nothing but lard all day is also a full, complete and healthy diet, as i could just put all kinds of vitamin pills in there.
picture it, if you will: a large bowl of lard with all kind of nice, crunchy pills in there.
would you argue that a 100% lard diet is healthy if i supplement everything lard doesn't give me?
>>74736173
le bodybuilders are weak may may
Who here would climb ME of you knew you were trained for the task and an expert climber?
>>74730321
Vegans are actually redpilled but I cba it costs too much/ takes up to much time
>>74735851
You mean this brah
>>74736297
The fuck? That's the point, to stay vegan they have to take dietary supplements. For anyone non-vegan, none of that extra shit is necessary to stay healthy. No sticking needles in yourself, no managing intakes.
A lot of vegans tend to fuck up and forget this, and end up being hospitalized for self-induced blood conditions or worsening anemia.
Nothing about veganism is healthy, including the mentality.
>humans are herbivores
>if you use non-vegan products, you are a plant-based person, not vegan
>shunned by other vegans
>they can only ever cite maybe 6 sources to back up their "lifestyle"
>hurr durr heal the planet like the kikes say
>>74730507
fuck off retard
australia is very sorry that we gave birth to her
>>74736012
>essential
>>74736427
I'm 300 pounds of mostly fat and I've out-hiked every roided up muscle head I've ever went camping with, while I was barefoot
Body builders are pussies outside of the gym
>>74736426
Sounds perfectly good to me senpai
>>74736556
>this is the person that promotes meat
kek
>>74736427
>le bodybuilders are weak may may
>Hypertrophy based regimen with all sets being a minimal of 8 reps, usually a lot more
>70%+ Isolation lifts, what little compounds they do are still in the hypertrophy range
>traditional bro splits over isolating certian muscle groups
>Artificially boosted weight due to time under tension training yet still far weaker than powerlifters, strongmen who are the same weight or less
Nah
>>74736426
You still haven't answered how supplements are non-vegan and hence your post still doesn't answer my original question.
>as i could just put all kinds of vitamin pills in there.
You would need to add all the essential amino acids as well. Oh and don't forget all the missing minerals in lard too. And don't miss out on adding some carbs.
One food item =/= a diet plan
>>74736556
you do realize hiking is cardio and that muscles *need* energy instead of *producing* energy, right?
2lbs of muscle mass = roughly 100kcals / day that you have to eat more to maintain your weight ==> large bodybuilder will need 1-2 full meals more than you.
ofc this is a disadvantage in cardio.
>>74736523
>dietary supplements
>dietary
Care to show how vit-b12 supllements are animal products?
>Nothing about veganism is healthy
If cannot show that a single essential nutrient is missing you cannot deduce that its unhealthy.
> including the mentality
Vegan diet =/= the vegan movement
>>74736556
i dont think youre in a position to brag about anything or teach any lessons fatyfuck
>>74731754
The only animal products that are classed as "definitely a cause of cancer" are processed and cured meats.
>>74733146
Omega 3
I know a lot of vegans that are actual body builders. It's legit possible, you just have to have the right diet.
>>74736075
bullshit, marmite/vegemite/other shitty tarry looking mites have all the b12 you would need
vegans can be healthy (im not even one) if they do it right and get all the food groups/minerals/vitamins.
>>74736684
>One food item =/= a diet plan
>having to add artificial substances =/= a complete diet
and i'm not going to honor your moving of goalposts. the discussion started out as "name one micronutrient/vitamin that a vegan diet doesn't give me", i named one, and you were therefore proven wrong: a vegan diet is insufficient, as you have to add artificial stuff to not get potentielly life-threatening symptoms.
look up b12 deficiency, it's one of the most dangerous deficiencies and can literally kill you if it gets severe enough.
i chose an extreme example to show you that there is a qualitative line here: as soon as you HAVE to add artifical stuff, your diet is not complete.
you have to add b12 to your gay fad, your gay fad is therefore not a complete diet.
>>74736880
371mg omega 3 per 100g Spinach .
http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/vegetables-and-vegetable-products/2631/2
>>74730949
>>74730510
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>>74736989
potentially*
>>74736823
The fuck are you even trying to argue?
Nobody is saying that you are NOT a vegan for taking supplements.
>>74736823
if 1 steak provide same energy and vitamins that 10 pound vegetables provide it doesnt mean that being vegan is healthy.
>>74731986
almost all vegans are nutrient deficient and have this gaunt anaemic look. It's disgusting. The problem is that fruit, veg and nuts are low in calories and so you have to literally be eating the whole day to meet your daily caloric needs unless you load up on carbs, and this doesn't even factor in nutrition like iron, b12, and calcium which vegans are nearly always deficient in.
>>74736989
>i named one, and you were therefore proven wrong
You haven't proven that vitamin b12 supplements are non-vegan . Please elaborate on this point before claiming you have proven anything.
>>74731942
>lectured m8
>>74736940
That shit isn't very popular here, sadly. The point is that very few that I've ever seen do it right. I live in Commiefornia for god's sake. Way too many girls follow these stupid YouTubers and propaganda-spewers and try to live a life off salad while saying they're saving the planet.
There are ways to do it right, but there are so many morons out there compared to people who can actually defend the dietary argument.
>>74735405
This guy is vegan, looks pretty weak desu
>>74737042
See pic. I really don't appreciate you being intellectually dishonest.
Either you don't know what the definition of veganism is or you are trolling me.
>>74737049
>it doesnt mean that being vegan is healthy.
If a diet doesn't have any deficiencies I think we can come to the conclusion that it's not unhealthy.
>>74733146
why don't you stop eating altogether and only pop vitamin pills
>>74737116
ok, you are either retarded or """"trolling"""" (read: 12 years old).
have a nice day, i'm not going to waste my time with your crap any further.
if you honestly started this discussion with the standpoint of : "artificially adding any vitamin you like to a diet makes it complete", then the whole discussion was irrelevant in the first place, as i could do that with ANY diet (as shown in my 100% lard example).
the discussion is therefore irrelevant ( => you are retarded) or you are trying to be funny ("hurrr i'll trooooolllll these people") and somehow missing something here: a punchline.
>>74737116
>>74737348
You're fishing for an answer to a question that is flawed in the first place.
B-12 can naturally be found in animal products, and vegans naturally take them despite this. It's a dietary need in SOME form. The biggest backers of the vegan diet take these. It doesn't make you any less of a vegan for taking the supplement.
It's easy to make the argument that since it can be found naturally in animal products, it should not be taken, though. However, most vegans do not bother with that sentiment.
>>74737338
Could he climb Everest?
B12
Amino Acids
Complete Sources of Protein
Iron Absorption
Supplements
Vegans are fucking retarded lol
>>74737186
It's not an easy lifestyle, you have to know your food well and plan properly. It's a pain in the ass in terms of time and money, I just to to chicken and fish as my main protein sources.
>>74737394
Pretty sure diabetic vegans didn't give a fuck about using insulin from animals when that was the norm either.
Some PETA chair got BTFO on this saying she'd rather die than consume animal products; turned out she was taking insulin.
>>74737338
Niće underdeveloped neck
>>74731754
Then why did we evolve to consume meat and develop bigger brains because of it? LOL
>>74737372
This is a red herring. But to answer your question: Because vitamins are not ALL essential nutrients the body needs.
>>74737383
What about "artificially adding any vitamin" is by definition an animal product? Your terms have arbitrary definitions hence your whole argument is ambiguous.
>>74737394
I am damn sorry. Thought dietary meant animal. Excuse my lack of knowledge.
>>74737507
Exactly. If they need it in their diet and are crazy enough to promote it AND the lifestyle, they'll cut corners.
>>74737338
lol
Yeah nah. The blast and cruise cycles of test, tren, dbol etc have nothing to do with it.
It was all produced by eating plants.
>>74731754
Faaaaaaag
>>74737409
I don't know, but I do know that plant based diets generally are better for stamina than the rest of us meat eaters, just look at the mcgregor vs diaz fight. Mcgregor got tired very quick, he follows a heavy meat diet, which is known to irritate the lungs. I don't have a problem with the diet it just seems to attract a lot of altruistic sanctimonious hippy pricks.
>>74737515
We evolved eating fruit with some meat here and there
>>74737777
This. People aren't supposed to eat huge platefuls of meat daily, unless they want heart disease at 40.
>>74737648
You have any proof of this or just baseless accusations?
>>74737706
>mcgregor vs diaz
>talking about game of thrones like it was real
>>74737560
>i was only pretending to be retarded
how did you not get that "trolling" also implies some kind of humorous element?
seriously fuck you
>>74737777
>>74737889
I think this was obvious. today´s average western diet has indeed too much meat in it, but that doesn´t make meat literally hitler like vegans say. both sides are annoying
>>74737957
Your post is yet again ambiguous. Where did I said I was trolling? How do you even come to this conclusion?
I fear your arguments are not based on logic.
>>74737000
>371mg omega 3 per 100g Spinach
>371mg
its fucking nothing.. at least post something useful if you gona shill for vegans
>Flaxseed Oil 100g
>53449mg
>Walnuts 100g
>9080mg
>>74737914
Are you fucking kidding me
Post that pic on /fit/. Better yet /fraud/. Come back and keep believing he's natty you naive BritCuckstanian
>>74730321
talk shit get hit
>>74730510
>>74737090
>fruit, veg and nuts
Didn't know bread, pasta and other carbohydrates weren't vegan
>>74737929
>Game of thrones = UFC
American education everybody
>>74737929
lol well said. Does my nut in when I hear these faggots at work going on about it.
>>74738047
The question wasn't about what vegan food has the most omega 3. It is about if there is any vegan food with no essential nutrient and I refuted it.
Anybody can use google to find high-omega 3 foods if they want.
>>74730321
The best part is that it's entirely possible to be a healthy vegan if you know what you're doing. Beans and lentils have plenty of protein and make good meat-substitutes.
But most vegans don't know what they're doing. They don't look into the nutritional pros and cons, why would they? That's too much effort, and virtue-signalling is too important. So they feed themselves entirely on junk food and greens, while patting themselves on the back for their superior moral choices. Then they try to climb a mountain, and they fucking die.
>>74733528
>>74736989
Vegans can get B-12 from this so your argument is invalid
>>74738019
Mediterranean diet is the best desu
>>74731754
>youre biased as fuck, there are a ton of studies that prove that animal products cause cancer, go look it up
Nigger, everything "Causes cancer" these days.
Hell, the fucking sun causes cancer. Are you going to run indoors every time the clouds break?
>>74738207
>>74738161
Looks like we got our fair share of retards here as well.
>>74738240
isn't yeast an animal ?
Love how all you limp-wristed nerds are saying vegans are malnourished.
I could snap your little bodies like twigs you edgy teenage carnivore fucks.
>>74737929
>Hurr look at Gaim ov Fwones
>>74731754
>getaloadofthisgoy.jpg
This is pretty entertaining not gonna lie
>>74730321
Sweet mother of kek.
>>74738161
>>74738318
oh fuck hahaha
>mfw someone I knew had to eat meat again because the docter said her health was dropping really fast.
Can't make this shit up.
>>74732671
Post a picture of yourself, peasant.
>>74738365
Call me when you leave humanity behind fegit
>>74738365
I'd shoot you. Cuz im american. Or stab you. Or press charges and take every cent you have if none of those are not handy. Thats kind of a dumb comment you made.
How does it feel to live in an orwellian nightmare?
>inb4 60% white lololol
Mexicans will always, ALWAYS be better than the exploders you guys have flooding you.
>>74735085
This dude is so vegan he's turning green.
>>74738512
She probably wasn't eating enough, most first timers end up eating the same amount they would eat with their previous diet, you have to eat a lot more and be more conscious of what it is you are eating.
From personal experience when I cut down on meat, my tummy felt lighter and had a lot more energy after a couple of weeks.
I think my diet was something like 1 slice of pork cutlet per dinner, and the rest of the dinner is vegetables and root beets in a soup.
That's was mainly because I'm a poor student with low income, but I felt that is was a really good balance.
Anything nutritious is to be consumed. Anything non human is our resource.
