Guys i need help
Im addicted to the booze
Worst of all my drink of choice is
4loko
I drink like 4 of them a day
I quit like 24 hours ago
I want to drink so fucking bad
If I buy just one will it help me taper off and eventually quit? Or do I have to go cold turkey?
You guys redpilled me on degeneracy but this is so tough
Im very anxious and starting to shake
>>73344162
You've already failed. Kill yourself, degenerate cuck.
You're definitely a Hispanic
Kill yourself grease Indian
>>73344162
If you can handle it, try drinking a 12 pack of cheap regular beer. Drink 1 then stop wait until the shakes start then drink another. until the shakes competley go away.
>>73344262
>>73344265
:( I dont want to die and Im 100% white
Find AA meetings and go to them every day. I would avoid the book sessions, but all the other ones are good. After a while (it depends on your addiction), it will get easier. times of stress/loneliness will be a fucking bitch. You will be at your weakest then. 2 months sober here
>>73344354
I only have the pennies for a single 4loko
I say 4loko because its the cheapest for the amount of alcohol it has
>>73344394
So it definately doesnt help that im autistic as hell then and would never go to an AA meeting, shit I cant even get out of bed most days
psychedelics cure alcoholism, get some shrooms or LSD
>>73344570
I did LSD 2 weeks ago in hopes that it would cure me. I agree it helped me dislike drinking but the urge is still very present.
OK FAGGIT LISTEN UP BECAUSE IM ONLY SAYING THIS ONCE
WHAT YOUR BITCH ASS CUNT WILL NEED:
>butter (lots of it)
>marshmallows (as big as you can find/bigger the better)
>rice crispy cereal
NOW FAGGOT, YOU GOT THAT?
>get a large microwaveable bowl
>put butter marshmallows and rice crispy cereal in bowl (note:do not melt anything befor hand/do not skimp on the butter/lots and lots of butter)
>when microwaving BE SURE NOT TO MIX IT TOO WELL/BUTTER MUST BE DRIPPING ALL OVER THOSE MARSHMALLOWS AND CEREAL.
EAT A TON OF IT. I MEAN A FUCKING TON. WHOLE BOXES OF CEREAL, HUGE BAGS OF MARSHMALLOWS. MANY MANY STICKS OF BUTTER
once completed. Find your alcohol of choice. And drink away. Drink drink drink little doggy. Cause that's all you're going to get
>>73345387
What in the fuck are you talking about
>>73344162
upgrade to spirits + cola
less calories and neurotoxins than beer, and cheaper too
then just start reducing the dosage, go from 100ml of spirit per glass, to 80, to 60, to 40, etc, and eventually quit altogether
never by beer again, it costs too much money and makes you fat
beer and wine is for faggots
>>73345704
Jesus Christ are you an ape?
Imagine for one moment, ape. That you were to get so sick from drinking that you never wanted to drink again. Can you imagine it you ape? Well can you?
What I have described to you will make you so incredibly sick feeling you will be nauseous just thinking about it after the fact.
>>73345948
>4loko
>14% alcohol
>in a 24 ounce can
>literally $2.00
You are talking to an alcohol. Ive done the math. Not even bulk whiskey or vodka is cheaper.
>>73344162
Alright dude, I went through THE SAME
THING.
Go to your local Vitamin Shoppe and look for something called "5HTP", it helps with getting off booze, the shaking and that feeling you get when you just need it, its some sort of vitamin I think
Seriously, i had to drink 3-4 beers every day just to sleep, taking this shit made me transition off easily.
Buy the 100mg one with vitamin B6
Take care, brother, I know how hard it is
>>73346149
That is not how that works for alcoholics. That works for 15 year olds who got caught by their parents. I could drink myself to death before that happened to me. Also, I know so many folks that were forced to quit smoking by smoking a whole pack. Know what happened? They kept smoking.
>>73346212
Thanks.
So cold turkey it is then? Fuck i could claw my eyes i want to drink so bad
Start jogging or if you cant do that go on a walk, avoid liquor stores on your route. If thats not your thing go to the gym, do anything to clear you head. You wont die if you stop drinking. You will die however, if you continure to drink 4 4 lokos a day.
>>73346277
Hahahaha
Ok nigger.
>>73344557
I think you have things backwards. You should be INCREASING the amount you are drinking. Perhaps even switching to hard alcohol. You can do it! I believe in you!
>>73346334
Nah man, it doesnt have to be cold turkey, take one pill about an hour before you usually start drinking, if you have to drink, drink one can. Eventually after about a week or two you will lose that feeling of "needing booze"
5JTP is also loaded with the chemical that helps your brain make serotonin, so it will make you feel all warm inside
Seriously, buy that shit, it changed my life
>>73346582
5HTP, dammit
>>73346555
Are you a white child? Tender age below 30?
>>73346582
Thanks for the help man I appreciate it sounds like you know what you're talking about
>>73346555
You are a special kind of stupid
>>73346555
You're an obnoxious moron. kys
>>73344162
See what your insurance covers
get real sleep, take b-12 in the mean time
/pot will help
but you gotta come off it man, doing a thirty day program sounds crazy but it's you're best bet. they'll give you detox time/librium and let you come down
>>73347029
No insurance, exactly 3 dollars, just enough for 1 last 4loko.
Had to give up pot because I smoked up to 14 grams per day. I am worse with weed than alcohol. I actually switched to alcohol to stop smoking weed. I can go back to neither. I must be sober. Yes, I am fully aware how much 14 grams per day is. For a while it did not cost me any money.
Life isn't worth living sober anyway.
>>73346755
No problem, bro!
I just remembered, in case you want to go cold turkey, but are having trouble sleeping from lack of alcohol, buy MELATONIN, you can get it at Walmart for like $11
Take anywhere between 1-5mg and in about half an hour you will sleep like a rock, but mixing alcohol and melatonin will give you a very sucky hangover
Take care, and remember, if you need a bit of booze, there is no shame in drinking a bit to take the edge off
>>73344162
NO one will help you on /pol/.
>>>/b/
>>>/adv/
>>>/q/
>>>/r/
We all have problems brother. I have the same problem.
I don't shitpost it here. I can handle my problems.
You should make a thread about WHY YOU CAN'T handle your own problems.
>>73347226
its worse once you go far enough down the rabbit hole
it sounds like youve just started
>>73347374
I specifically required the help of neo nazis
Shameless I know.
>>73347205
you'll get court remanded then at some point
and spend the night next to bubblegum bixsby
>>73347758
Remanded for what motherfucker
My degeneracy is over
/pol/ has shown me the light
>>73347205
God you are a fucking degenerate. Weed of 4loko, it is like you are a nigger.
>>73347504
then you should go to neo nazis sites. How dumb are you?
/pol/ is a worldwide, diverse, sect of individuals that will never conform to any of your ideas.
WE AINT ONE PERSON.
I don't know how to help you understand that you and I Don't share the same belief, and nien of us should be punished for it.
This isn't a neo nazi website, dumbass. google is your friend.
>>73344162
Depends, you probably aren't a severe alcoholic so cold turkey. If you have real withdrawal symptoms you will need a doctor to tell you how much to drink.
Your best bet is to get really invested in a hobby to take your mind off things. Start running, become a gym rat, get really invested into a video game, you want to get in the state where you forget to eat and don't even feel very hungry after wasting the whole day.
>>73348079
Go back to redit nooooooooow reeeeeeee
>>73348070
Grew up with negros in the ghetto okay I had no idea how to be white until i found /pol/
>>73348357
I defend the sanctity of MY homeland, and you...
Thanks for telling me I'm right, you wouldn't be asshurt if you didn't comment.
>>73348593
:^)
Hes bumping my off topic thread and im the one thats asshurt
>>73344162
>4 fourloko a day
>alcoholic
Kek, nice b8 m8
>>73346555
Babbies first shitpost =3
>>73348899
You would not consider that alcoholism? My body sure seems to think so
Be 6 scotches in by 9am, then come whine about your shitty life.
>>73349101
Have ya not quit yet m8?
>>73344162
16 Lokos jesus christ. Just go cold turkey or you are a weak ass pussy.
>>73349186
I'll drink til the day it kills me. Hopefully soon
I'm drinking a 4loko right fucking now
just moderate your drinking, cuck
14 drinks a week, 6 drinks max in one sitting
>>73348879
You must be gnu.
Nothing is "off topic" here.
Conversations about Serbian migration will turn into forecasting about columbine corn futures, in two posts.
I just shot up two marijuanas, and I feel fi-
>>73347416
Been drinking every day for 15 years. Either fix the underlying problems that cause it or learn to enjpy the way down. My depression is killing me faster than my drinking. I tried sobriety and it ended with being suicidal for months.
>>73346165
Yea but that shit is rat posion, i was in college when that first came out neighbor drank 2 at a party and had to got to the hospital.
Post real liquor. 4loko is for poor people and beaners
>>73349398
>>73349509
>>73349638
>>73349823
4loko continues to be my favorite drink. In fact this thread convinced me to get drunk tonight. Go to hell you guys I have to be ready for boot camp in a week and i cant be on the sauce.
>>73344162
Shit- get to a hospital, I think that's the onset of DT. If you do not get medical care, you will probably die.
>>73350031
Lol, drunk cunt raised by a single mother goes and becomes a new welfare Queen. Going to have the military pay for your gender reassignment surgery Daniella?
>>73350031
>boot camp
Damn nigger you are just full of fucked up choices.
>>73350138
I got booze instead. I reckon ill be around another night
>>73350162
:^) its not boot camp for the military its boot camp for the super military
>>73350287
Gonna be a super faggot?
>>73350178
Welcome to paranoia, depression and anxiety all put into a human body
>>73350359
Also called, being a weak cunt.
>>73350353
>he wont be fighting for trump
>>73350418
Not nearly as weak as you. It really is hard for people that dont live it to understand that even tough motherfuckers go through that shit
A weak cunt could never consume the alcohol amount i consume
>>73344162
I would just drink if i were you. Don't listen to the 14 yr old edge lords in this thread, they know nothing about alcoholism. Quitting gaba-b agonist drugs like alcohol or benzos can cause seizures and death. Try to taper.
>>73344485
>not everclear
you're literally not even white
>>73346334
Reminder that cold turkey can actually kill you if your system has become dependent enough on alcohol
>>73349370
>6 drinks max
>gradually start using larger drinking vessels
my drinking is under control
>>73344162
That's a lot of caloric intake. What's your height and weight?
>>73344162
Cold turkey or die, faggot.
>>73344162
hey anon, I am also an alcoholic who was having problems drinking. I make decent money so I was spending 10-15 bucks a day on microbrews and decent wine. It's easy to drink tons when the shit tastes so good. I'd say I averaged 8 beers a day for the last 3 years. Then I'd drink 2 liters of club soda before bed to hydrate and get some electrolytes.
Trouble is that it all caught up to me and I developed an ulcer. I literally cannot drink for at least a month while it heals or I feel like total shit. So, it's been a blessing. I've been clean for a week and a half now. I had no physical withdrawal symptoms like shaking or anything like that.
If you do, quitting cold turkey can be dangerous, you can seize up and shit. You need to go see a doctor or rehab place to ween off safely.
If you don't then QUIT COLDTURKEY. One trick is that your body is so used to all the extra carbs that part of the physical craving is actually for carbs which your body associates with alcohol.
Thus, eat sugary shit! I ate an entire pack of cookies one night. Eat candy, chocolate, fucking anything with sugar. It helps the cravings.
Also try milk thistle, it's supposed to reduce cravings too but I didn't use it. Check for other herbal remedies but don't go too crazy in case you have liver damage.
You should go get your liver enzymes check to make sure you're good on that.
It gets easier everyday. I only thought about alcohol once or twice today and it was easy to brush off. I don't even need sweets anymore. Good luck bro.
Try drinking 3Loko for a while then step down to 2Loko and keep tapering down.
>>73352184
The number is inversely proportional to the strength of the loko. 2 loko is too loko 4 you.
>>73352111
Doctors can also prescribe you pills that you take that, when mixed with alcohol, make you feel hungover as fuck from a single drink. It's called antabuse or some shit. Maybe that's an option for you.
>>73351803
If you're an extreme alcoholic this could actually make you die.
Just drink so much to the point that you cough up phlegm every day you drink.
Just kidding, I still drink almost everyday anyways
>>73351560
6 foot and 150 pounds. I dont gain weight.
Look, this is serious shit.
If you continue to not drink, you'll eventually start to hallucinate. When the panic sets in, your heart rate will spike into fatal territory and you'll begin having seizures.
You need to go to an inpatient detox facility. They'll give you benzos at first, monitor your oxygen concentration, heart rate, liver and kidney function, and keep your magnesium and folic acid levels high. When your hallucinations and seizures stop, they'll start to taper you off the benzos (I got IV Ativan and oral Valium).
It's scary shit, but you'll come out of it. You can't quit on your own if you're bad enough off.
>>73344162
>4loko
Isn't that an energy drink/booze combo? No doubt the combination of sugar, caffeine and alcohol is fucking you up much worse than just booze would.
ima paypal you 10$ to go crazy for one last time. Pay it forward
>>73344394
You really think handing yourself over to a higher being (god,allah,hitler) is the right thing to do?
Im an alcoholic, ive used drinking to numb my thoughts since my dad passed away, i was 15 years old. While ive slowed down and learned to control it now at the age of 29 if i drink i won't want to stop. But i can... as long as i have something else going on in life that requires me to be sober like work or driving.
I beleive you just need to time your drinking and limit it to 1 day a week, maybe 2 or 3 if youre in holiday mode. Aa is just a cash grab to fund the churches. Churches stagnate the world.
>>73352919
They lowered the amount of caffeine after numerous deaths, it's still a pretty high content level though
>be 22
>drink 750ml Liquor a day
>don't even feel drunk, just satisfied
send help
jk send booze
Take the drink. I don't understand how there are any /pol/acks who participate in this sober
>>73346212
>i had to drink 3-4 beers every day just to sleep
no wonder why fucking vitamins fixed it, tom cruise anon motherfucker
>>73344162
take it like a man and deal with it
addictions are purely psychological, once your body throws a tantrum a few times, the shakes will stop
go jack off or do something else that will take your mind off of booze
>>73353147
Don't listen to this guy.
Get help.
>>73353116
>after numerous deaths
wew lad
People seriously underestimate how bad caffeine can be for you especially when combined with other drugs.
Lagunitas > 4loko
>>73353147
Alcohol and benzo withdrawl causes death
>>73353249
real men deal with their own problems
go ahead op, listen to him. drink yourself to death or let the pharma or some useless rehab take care of you if you are weak and you are frail
>>73353324
Friend, I can help. I'm a newfag so tell me how you contact me directly
>>73344162
see a doctor you can die from going cold turkey with an alcohol dependency
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-about-addiction/201001/alcohol-benzos-and-opiates-withdrawal-might-kill-you
>2016
>Not using your alcohol addiction to guilt-trip the people who love you into buying you free shit.
Basically I can stop drinking for a week and my mummy will give me a blank check to buy whatever I want.
What time in the day do you start drinking OP?
For me it was 5pm.
So I would plan activities for myself from then until sleep everyday after work.
Gym or walk, then out for dinner, then library or a movie or some shit.
Its the boredom that gets you. You need to get a hobby to distract yourself, for the first few weeks or montths atleast.
>>73344162
>four 4lokos a day
Damn dude, I was doing this exact same thing up until a few months ago. Fucking lokos. If you're physically addicted enough that you get DTs, you need to go to inpatient. Otherwise, you can try to taper off while getting your shit together.
>>73353955
>four 4lokos a day
>addiction
>claim to have symptoms when stopping
Wow, you guys sure are hardcore addicts! Fucking christ.
If you are getting the shakes you need to go to the hospital.
You need to taper off. Cold turkey alcohol withdrawal can kill you OP.
>>73354168
Never claimed I did, cunt, because I didn't. That's 24 standard drinks a day though, can you comprehend how much alcohol that is?
>>73354413
i am
>>73353123
Get the fuck on my level.
I've quit for months at a time, cold turkey. The shakes and shit last like 3 days, tops.
You're only at risk of dying if you've been doing that shit for like a decade.
4loko is pussy shit. Get on my booze hound level.
Actually tho I wanna move to the US just cuz how much cheaper and more plentiful liquor is tbqhwy
are you in school or do you have a job or what? How do you function in society with 4 4lokos a day?
Whats a normal day like for you
Its an im more of an alcoholic than you are episode on /pol/ jesus christ guys
>>73354413
buy phenibut off of liftmode.com, it's used to treat alcohol addiction by making the experience of quitting less painful.
>>73354647
I have been out of work for months. Only facing my alcohol addiction now because i literally had 3 dollars left. I like to go hiking and running and riding my bike, im in creepy good shape for my drinking but i think is fun to do stuff when im drunk. I have a month to stop being a drunk before i have solid work again.
>>73354723
m8 literally everything here is a dick waving contest
>>73349101
Do you have a job?
>>73344162
Drinking new 4loko? Jesus. The old stuff was the best.
I'm going through the same thing. Blurry vision, shakes, manual breathing, and constant sweating. You can only quit when you want to.
The Liquid Jew
Never consume the liquid Jew
It only can ravage the life of you
Friends and family will disapprove,
"Do not imbibe in that jewery brew,
your mind will stale, your organs will stew."
And in your stupor you had no clue,
You were already fooled by the tricky Jew.
While you were weak, the illness grew.
Your finances flew, your health did too
And know you wish to start anew
But, alas, your time is through
We always knew,
We warned you too.
Never consume the liquid Jew.
>>73344485
Taper down to steel reserve. You're not alone. Google /r/cripplingalcoholism there are dozens of us just like you
>>73344162
Dear OP, wait it out and buy some nootropics online.
Get some piracetam to heal your brain.
You may not realize this but being an drunk has reconfigured your brain some and given you brain damage.
But you can repair it, and you will just have to fight the psychological withdraws. Maybe try some herbal calm aid, and avoid people.
So far ive learned a lot from this thread thanks
>>73353123
do you drink throughout the day or all at once or what
>>73354838
were you drinking when you had a job?
>>73355603
>wake up
>take shot or two
>go to work for 8 hours
>come home a twitchy mess
>take a couple more shots
>eat dinner, do necessary housework or whatever
>after all is said and done, pound the rest of the bottle
>sleep
>repeat
How most of my days go.
try topiramate medication. Absolutely kills alcohol cravings. Brutal side effects for the first couple of weeks though
>>73355939
Impossible. I am far away for months at a time.
>>73354577
A fifth has the alcohol of three lokos lol.
>Can't stop drinking when alone
>Can force myself not to drink when in social situations
Eh
>>73355961
damn. Im like stage 1 alcoholic so this level of boozing is fairly incomprehensible to me. Best of luck canadabro
>>73344162
I drank at least a half bottle of whisky and 10 pints of beer a day for two years. Now it's 2/3 beers once every 2 - 3 weeks.
Each time you feel like having a drink do something to take up at least half an hour of your time.
Good examples:
1.) Get your gym kit and go work-out for 90 minutes. Put Yoga into your routine. Do Cardio. If you get alcohol cravings every day, which you will, then get your gym kit. Do your routine.
This will help ease the cravings off.
Other things that helped me were a change in diet, which involved making good quality home cooking.
Regards,
>>73355401
>>73344162
>>>/ck/7640230
alcky threads are a really great place.
be wary of depression.
>>73344162
Don't quit cold turkey. You can die from the alcohol withdrawal and not to mention, you'll feel extremely uncomfortable the rest of the night. Instead, drink tonight so you're not withdrawing and go get help in the morning. Or you can try tapering yourself off the alcohol, but don't do it alone. Go get help.
I've been riding the line for far too long. I hope this helps.
1) I'm not gonna tell you to stop drinking. If you want to go cold turkey, call the ER. You'll need a proper detox.
2) If you are serious, you can do an Irish detox. Count number of units (don't BS yourself), you're gonna half it per day until you get to 2. Once you are down to 2, without freaking out, you are back on planet earth. Go fuck yourself from there.
3) Water and vitamin B. B complex, B12, eat and drink enough so you are pissing hourly and it's a golden rainbow.
4) Work out. Run, jump rope, whatever. It helps a ton.
5) Get to a CVS and check your blood pressure when you are feeling jitters. If it's over 160, you might want to call a doctor.
6) Most docs will be super cool. If you need to clean up, they will help you clean up with minimal judgement.
>>73356141
I plan on going cold turkey soon anyways.
My friends are pushing responsibilities on me and I need to take care of them. Helping them move and settle in, social shit, etc.
I've done it before and I'll do it again.
>>73356088
14% alcohol by volume (at it's strongest) by 695ml cans.
That is literally pussy shit.
>>73349431
OP pls
>>73356339
The 4 of them was serious. Never less than 4 per day. Some days I would get to 6, I'd black out after 4 and find more cans than I was expecting in the morning. My black outs were getting scary so I have cut back from that about a week ago.
>>73356317
This guy knows his shit listen too him OP
>>73356633
Come back here when you're on liquor.
Unless you chug those all at a time, that's nothing. It absolutely has everything to do with alcohol by volume.
I drink 750ml of 45% (alberta premium Dark Horse) shit every day.
Four 4 lokos throughout an entire day would be my pre drink.
>>73356339
A hot fudge enema helps take the edge off of the shakes when you go cold turkey
>>73356828
do you drink it straight? shots? mixers?
>>73356860
I just drink a fuckload of water and my work is relatively manual so I sweat out a lot of it.
Kind of a weird satisfaction detoxing, sweating and pissing out the poison in your body.
>>73356973
What kind of filthy casual do you take me for? Straight
>>73356006
If you're still here, let me tell you some things about addiction. Cold turkey can work, but it's not likely and requires strong willpower, which you most likely don't have considering you're posting here for help. What you need to do is schedule and regulate how and when you drink. You can transition to drinking wine, only drinking during certain hours of the day, to only drinking certain days, but the end goal should always be 0 consumption.
Personal example. Addicted to weed, dabbed every day. While hard, I told myself to stop doing it in the morning and I let myself do it again at 5:00 pm. First week I fucked up twice, but good news is I regained day time sobriety 5 days a week. Now I can push myself further and go 7 days a week with daytime sobriety, then weekends sober, and over time you can marginalize your addiction to where it's non important to you. Once you reach that point, THEN going cold turkey becomes relatively easy.
Last thing to note, you should always question why it is that you drink. The more you develop a curiosity into yourself and WHY it is that you drink, the more apparent and rewarding sobriety becomes. Watch some ted talks on the subject, and while you won't get a definite answer, it'll give you a place to start. The hardest part is starting a regular and routine method of reducing your consumption, but once you realize you have the power to change your habits, even just marginally, then you can keep going step by step until you're at a place where you're satisfied. Be that complete sobriety, or just daytime sobriety 5 days a week, you need to decide what you're after and you'll reach it eventually.
>>73349370
6 drinks does virtually nothing, there is no point to it
>>73349509
>My depression is killing me faster than my drinking
Are people really this retarded? Alcohol is a fucking DEPRESSANT. Even if you fucking quit it, your body is going to stay depressed for months because it's been accustomed to being physically depressed for years. You guys are fucking cucking the shit out of your lives by being dependent on it
>>73356669
Thx drunkbro. I'll add a few more tidbits of a highly functional alcoholic.
7) benadryl is your friend for sleep after you get down from crazy to normal levels. you won't sleep well. benadryl will help. 100mg if you don't need to be on-point first thing in the morning. 50mg if you do. 25mg if you need help late in the day. it's basically a muscle relaxant, it helps.
8) L-Glutamine. I only recently discovered this. I take way more than someone probably should, but it kept me smooth when I didn't have access and needed to appear professional.
9) Jerk off. There is something about jerking off that helps.
Good luck, and if you are clear enough to read this, you probably don't need the help. If not, go to an acute care center.
>>73357389
he's talking 6 24 oz cans of 14% drank. that's like 16 drinks.
>>73357034
>Personal example. Addicted to weed, dabbed every day.
Weed has literally no physical repercussions for quitting, you dumb cunt. you don't get shakes, twitchyness you can't control, heartbeat 100+, restlessness, hallucinations, terrifying nightmares, etc when you stop smoking weed
0/10 opinion fkn dropped.
opinion dropped
>>73357389
this. Im not very deep right now at all. Im stage 1 and it still takes me at least 400ml-ish of 45% to feel it
>>73357585
16 drinks isn't exactly a lot either
>>73357579
>kept you smooth
meaning it helped with the shakes?
>>73357606
I really am glad alcoholism will kill you. I'm sure the few remaining loved ones you have are begging for it.
>>73357579
Final thing. Last time I was "out in the weeds", I got full bloodwork, my liver enzymes were whack.
I when apeshit with milk thistle and my liver numbers were golden. That stuff might actually work. YMMV.
>>73344162
Pray to Jesus.
>>73357606
There are some withdrawals like not being able to sleep etc but nothing serious
>>73357951
Quite the opposite, actually. And if you read my posts, this is probably the last weekend I'll be a shitfaced retard.
But thanks for projecting your own insecurities and jealousies out on an anonymous imageboard. Even shitfaced, I can spot a little whiny cunt when I see one.
>>73358082
Sleeplessness is something over half of everyone struggles with in the first place though. It almost shouldn't even be listed as a symptom.
>>73357799
Don't even get me wrong. The only thing that is going to really help you with the shakes is to slowly ween yourself with booze, or go to an ER and they will ween you with benzos.
Do NOT lie to yourself about how much you drink. If you were doing 24 units a day, you need to keep drinking for a few days, 50% a day until you are back to normal.
B12 and complex ARE VERY IMPORTANT, as your shit's all fucked up and you need it. '
The remainder are anecdotal, but, ... I speak from experience. they help a lot.
>>73349005
It could be but remember most alcohol abuse is not alcoholism, you can still quit and be cured, and our bodies can take way more than 4 beers a day kek
>>73358258
You are in for one hell of a ride you total idiot. You are either 500 pounds or lying about your alcoholism or you WILL be hospitalized. Again, I am glad your alcoholisn will kill you.
>>73357606
Weed is weird. Dabs arent weed, dabs are mainly thc. Thc stimulates cb1 receptors and can trigger things like anxiety and paranoia. Other canabanoids present in weed, such as CBD, interact with THC in such a way that regulates where the THC binds to. CBD is present in regular marijuana and causes THC to bind with cb2 receptors instead of cb1. Pure THC can result in lots of awful side effects like early onset of schizophrenia, paranoia and degyrification of the frontal cortex. Withdrawal from THC can and has included for me at different points of my life, night terrors, insomnia, loss of appetite, headaches, anxiety/paranoia. All things regulated by CB1 receptor sites. It's not nearly as difficult to quit as alcohol, but it does come with its share of difficulties.
Fuck, I'm glad that I got off this train. I still like to drink too much, but it is thankfully rare now.
I'm a fucking rail of a cunt at 5'11'' and 120 lbs, but I'd be downing 2/3 a handle of Sailor Jerry's damn near every night. Wake up hungover to all hell, and cut that shit with more liquor or beer.
Blacking out every night is hell on a man.
Good luck to all.
>>73358311
4 4loko is 24 beers sorry to break it to ya
>>73358290
you're speaking to the wrong person.
I drink every 2 or 3rd day. usually around 400ml of vodka/whiskey or 2 bottles of wine.
I have noticed my hands are a little bit shakey over last two months or so. Always worse after a night of particularly hard drinking.
>>73358432
I thought 4loko was just a typical 24oz beverage with caffeine in it (if you're lucky)
Once you start abusing liquor bottles, it gets more scary fast.
>>73358360
>You are in for one hell of a ride you total idiot. You are either 500 pounds or lying about your alcoholism
Read my posts again, faggot.
I've done this and stayed sober for months, going cold turkey.
The shakes and other physical symptoms last like a fucking week. After that it's pure psychological.
It will only kill you if you've been doing it for like a decade or more, non stop.
As for the "total ride", as I said before, physical symptoms last a week or so - but the serious ones die off after only a couple days of lots of water, sweating it out through working out, etc.
It won't kill me and I won't be hospitalized. Canadians are the strongest, more resilient shitposters there are here. Perhaps you're bred from a weak as fuck bloodline?
>>73358410
>Sailor Jerry
that shit was so cash when i was raging at college house parties.
>>73344162
You fucking stop at a certain date and do it. It is not that hard, this addiction withdrawals will get better by the end of the week. It ain't heroin stupid.
>>73358598
Have been to inpatient care, you would not believe how much you sound just like every single one of them. You are simply lying to us and yourself. Sorry.
>>73358661
Heroin withdrawl doesnt kill you.
>>73358598
>The shakes and other physical symptoms last like a fucking week. After that it's pure psychological.
That depends entirely on how long you've been drinking for, and how much you drink. A heavy alcoholic of 10 years will not have had good REM cycles for nearly a decade and could go multiple weeks experiencing hallucinations of some sort and like a month experiencing other forms of withdrawal.
yeah, my stepfather was an acoholic and would drink at least 2 liters of vodka a day.
four 4lokos is literally casual.
its funny i've done all manner of drugs and sometimes for briefly extended periods but i'd just get bored with being high and not do it anymore. and the 'withdrawals' always just seemed like natural response to a feeling, you have to feel the opposites of everything you feel in life, that's pretty much just karma. sometimes as i was getting sick of heroin or meth or alcohol or acid i'd look forward to withdrawal, and wake up on the first day off with the same happy feeling that i got the day i started using.
maybe you should just learn to like withdrawal.
>>73344162
Go to Church and confess.
It got me sober and I've been trying for 15 years.
>>73358838
This you can actually have siezures and other symptoms up to 60 days after you stop if you were drinking heavily enough. It can be random, too.
>>73358891
Remember in a thread where I said I didna particular something for 140 hours at a time? Im the same guy, Mr.Nvidia.
Im just trying to clean myself up before the season starts again.
>>73358922
Whatever works. I had a debate with a m8, and (being that atheist) I made the position that the only reason I would ever believe in a god would be if it kept me sober. Good for you.
>>73358684
Speak for yourself. It affects us all very, very differently.
Some of us can just up and quit without much withdrawal, others, not so much.
Notice how all articles on this shit say it CAN kill you, it CAN do this or that, but none say it WILL.
>>73358838
>>73358929
Thats also my point. I'm 22 for christs sake, I have been doing this for like a year and half. I'll be fine.
Which I've done before.
The only thing I don't look forward to are the hallucinations and the nightmares. But whatever.
>>73358891
I stopped getting hangovers a while ago. I basically drink open ended. I am on "summer retirement" but work out of town every other week to make extra money. The weeks I am in town and not working, which should be relaxing, are kind of a hellish haze of drinkathon. I'd rather be working honestly.
I was managing anatomy labs for medical/vet schools and tried to stop drinking but the nightmares wouldn't end. I just want my nightmares to stop, they are filled with the gore and terror that I would shrug off at work, but when I am asleep, at the mercy of my subconscious, all those images that I stuffed deep down come back in haunting distortion.
>>73359365
what do you have nightmares about?
melatonin only made mine worse
>>73359365
>been doing this a year and a half
>quit multiple times
>fine
>telling everyone here he is the most alcoholic
See this is what I was talking about when I said you were lying to yourself and everyone here
>>73359446
Past experiences or experiences I didn't have the balls to take part in.
Sometimes they'd be flat out nightmares, like someone is trying to beat the shit out of me and I'm fruitlessly running away or something.
Other times, I'd be taking a really hot girl I used to know out, and it would go flawlessly. Then I'd wake up and face the harsh reality.
Either way, it is extremely vivid and you remember these dreams for days to come.
>>73359603
>multiple times
I said once before, and since then, it's been well over a year.
Learn to read, faggot.
>>73344676
You need something stronger.
Drink ayahuasca. It will cure you.
Dont get me wrong.
Youll get the shakes
You will vomit
You may even have sober hallucinations.
But you wont drink.
>>73359033
oh hi.
well im sure if you can stay awake for 5 days to work you can just bear the bullshit that comes with getting too comfortable being drunk
>>73359878
Yeah im going to get through it just in a rough spot. I get really unmotivated when im in easy environments
>>73359655
Proof that you have no idea what you are in for. Quitting after 3 months, sure, 6 months, fine. A year? You have no clue you dumb fucking leaf.
>>73360124
How many times have I told you to learn how to fucking read, champ?
I've already said I've done it before. It affects us all differently, how can you not grasp this concept? How are you fucking dumber than a hopeless alcoholic? Do you realize how pathetic that is?
>>73359878
>>73360026
and i do recommend phenibut, they give it to treat alcohol addiction, and it just makes you feel calm and relaxed, it'll just cover up the aches of WD. its like 15 bucks for a big bottle off of liftmode.com. its considered a supplement and its prescribed to help people sleep, social anxiety, addiction, that kind of thing, its a irregular anxiolytic chemically similar to gabapentin and baclofen. great stuff.
if you have a long term problem, you can start studying ibogaine, and if you're very serious and have some sort of spiritual culture where you can create context for it, ayahuasca.
ibogaine pretty much resets all your craving syndrome software settings in your brain, people take it for one thing and stop smoking, eating badly, being lazy, and in general get their shit together. have not tried though. its like a 3 day ordeal where you won't be able to get far from your bed though, and you pretty much just exist in a dreamstate where you relive your life, from what i can tell.
>>73344162
>only 4 a day
grow up, pussy. Half of the world is alcoholics. Just embrace it and join the club. The "alcoholism is bad" meme is for bluepilled children.
>>73359607
>someone is trying to beat the shit out of me
> I'd be taking a really hot girl I used to know out, and it would go flawlessly.
Oh, those are just bad dreams my friend.
Just two nights ago I dreamed that I was an officer going to issue a warrant to search a house of a suspect in a murder case, when we got there he came out with a gun and shot at me twice, feeling the bullets cut through, and I though "this son of a bitch, he fucking killed me" and fell to the ground. My 'spirit' then rose above my body and I could see myself bleeding out in the street. I then saw him get shot down and went in his "house", it was really a run down shack, and looked around. It was horrifying. There was a pile of parts, not just human, but open dog carcasses, arms, heads, cats, just chopped up parts coming out of the closet in a pile. He had been reassembling people an animals as a hobby, dismembering them and playing with their parts. I'm talking about nightmares that leave you screaming in terror inside your mind until you can wake your body up. Not losing a fucking wet dream.
>>73360401
I mean, I could go into detail like that, sure, but for the sake of me currently being shitfaced, I choose not to.
But I know exactly what you're talking about.
I would spend half my workday just thinking "what the flying fuck?" at my dreams.
One dream I had of gigantic spiders (basketball sized) was so vivid that when I woke up, I jumped out of bed, turned my lights on, ran downstairs (two story home) and grabbed a hockey stick to try and bat the spiders.
I had to giggle to myself at the time how ridiculous it was after the fact but fucking christ my bones were filled with terror during the whole thing.
>>73360691
Usually it builds up into some kind of twist at the end that scares the shit out of me. I can even feel it coming, and suddenly my body erupts in sheer terror.
Does anyone have experience getting rid of the nightmares? It may be the only reason I drink anymore. I will say, and to answer my own question, I do not have nightmares when I work out of town. It's 12 hours a day of landscaping so my body is so exhausted I sleep well at night. Maybe I should start endurance training on my weeks off.
>>73361216
>Does anyone have experience getting rid of the nightmares?
Look at who you're replying to, friend. I have experience.
It lasted about 3 days for me. After that, it's just plain insomnia for the duration of withdrawals. I mean it's still shit, but it's better than dreaming about gigantic spiders so vividly that I need to wake up and run the fuck out of my room.
You can't help them, bottom line. You can't help your brain getting rid of current drugs, even if it means replacing them with something else that helps other symptoms. It seems to be the one symptom that sticks with everyone I've talked to.
Just gotta power through that shit bro. Best of luck.
>>73360401
dude
that sounds fucking awesome
>addicted
>only drinks 4 of some shitty carbonated juice with alcohol a day
Talk about a fucking lightweight
>>73355401
>>73361578
It was a very intense night of dreams. I listened to some past life regression bullshit (don't believe in that but thought it might put me to sleep) and had a series of 5 or so dreams like that where I died. I think it just formatted my dreams for the night but I get that kind of vivid realism all the time. I also read in my dreams which I've ready many times is 'impossible'
>>73344162
Go cold turkey off alcohol and caffeine. Set a goal to look forward to in some fulfilling aspect of your life. Do a monthly cheat day with a friend, where you both are allowed alcohol/caffeine on just one day per month to get the urge out of your system.
