how you hanging in there boys?
>>7640230
I'm enjoying my willpower and ability to drink responsibly.
Gonna have to quit completely in a bit over a week, how to best taper?
>>7640290
Talk to a doctor if you're physically dependent, alcohol withdrawal sucks ass and can actually kill you.
I usually stick to liquor which keeps me at 1-2 drinks. Been getting into wine and now I understand how easy it is to become a lush
>>7640333
I'm not sure it's physical. I'll try and go a night or two between now and then to see but I think it's a mental thing like when I was "addicted" to weed.
>>7640340
Use this chart to see how likely you are to be able to go cold turkey.
i was so good for two days, so good
but then i thought, one drink
well maybe 3 drinks
fuck it lets kill the fifth. itll be my last night drinking.
ill finish it all tonight so there wont be any left for me to drink tmwr
i know its a lie but i do it every time. why
why /ck/
what do I do?
Im moving into a 90 hr week program in a couple of months, i need to be ready
im just gonna fuck it up again
>>7640352
that chart doesn't make fucking sense.
>>7640443
the creator was probably drunk
>>7640448
hohoho
>>7640409
someone tell me ill be ok
>>7640352
3 days sober so far. Spent the last 4 years drinking between 1 and 2 bottles of wine a night.
Worst i've had was extremely mild nausea for an hour that went away when I went outside.
A fairly bad Headache the first night that disappeared with 2 alka seltzer.
Some sweating at night in bed.
What is it about gastro that makes people drink so heavily. The full on stress and rushing to get shit done quickly AND well?
Somewhat related, when it comes to cleaning up after the shift, I always double time it to get the fuck outta there, problem is Im too wired and amped up to go to sleep afterwards, so I always pour something to calm my ass down, I should probably switch to tea or someshit instead.
>>7640443
Yes it does. It's not easy to read, I give you that, but it makes sense.
Imagine painting the white square in colour like a heat-map, "cold" in the lower left corner, "hot" in the top right one.
The lines show where to change colour.
>>7640443
You're right. I saved it from a page I'd read before then posted it. It made sense in context, so I'll find the page again.
>>7640352
>>7640443
The lines show how many drinks you'd need over each length of time, to have a 50/50 chance of each level of withdrawal. For instance, you would need 25 drinks each day for 3 days to suffer major withdrawals, but only 15 each day if you drink for 9 days, and so on. Hence the lines go down.
>>7640556
Night sweats are common. Watch out for day sweats though.
>>7640333
How exactly can alcohol withdrawal kill you? Do you think becoming addicted to alcohol then dying of withdrawals is a good way to commit seppuku?
>>7640713
No, if you get truly addicted the odds of being able to cut yourself off will be awful. The odds are you'd just become a drunk.
One day down.
>>7640713
Your withdrawals include shaking (due to CNS failure), sweating, weakness, nausea, hallucinations, generalised pain, elevated pulse and blood pressure and intense anxiety. They increase gradually over the course of a couple of days to a week.
The first day will see you with mild tremors, feeling weak and unable to eat, and moderate anxiety. After a day or two, you'll be suffering moderate to intense shaking and a lot of weakness, possibly unable to walk far or at all. If you aren't vividly hallucinating by this point, you'll at least be hearing faint voices and seeing light flashes. The anxiety will be intense.
As these effects progress, your risk of seizures, coma, heart attack or stroke also increase, until eventually it either fades or you enter a state of acute withdrawal known as DTs, characterised by vivid hallucinations, delirium, extreme anxiety, intense shaking and restlessness and blood pressure spikes. Your risk of seizures at this point is astronomical.
So in answer to your question, no, not a good way to kill yourself at all.
>drink with brother
>try and tell him that people are afraid of him in his immediate life, they are fearful he will hurt them
>deflects and leaves conversation
>try to get him to listen before his court date the next day
>angry to the point in which I punch my porch while smoking
>hand a little bruised, now I can't play video games very well
>brother thinks I'm making it all up
What audacity there is within my retarded life
Just took a drug test for a new job. Do they test blood alcohol levels too? If they do...I'm kind of fucked.
>>7641011
>videogame
>punching walls
Grow the fuck up
>>7641011
Nobody is afraid of your faggot brother.
>>7640230
I've got a gin buzz going.
About to have some kind of breakfast.
52 days
Suck it
Been doing great lately. Then yesterday I killed a 6 of malt liquor, several cocktails and ate most of a deep-dish pizza. I am sweating ethanol and mozzarella this morning.
>>7641014
Depends on job and what exact tests they do.
They can only test for illegal drugs, or extant to immoral ones. They can can use cheap tests with high false positive/negative, and not give a fuck if you get false positive.
Also, they wouldn't test for alcohol (it goes away relatively fast, unless you drink in the morning before the test or go there with hangover), but for idk what hormone level that usually rises when you're an alkie.
And they don't test (or don't bother telling you) for other health problems.
>>7640258
sick burn
been drinking like a madman the past week, usually I'm able to limit myself to four or six tall cans of beer a day but this past week I've been hitting the port and rum after I finish my sixpacks, and as a result of that I wake up hungover which I usually don't, which just means I continue drinking to fix the hangover
>>7640352
Number of drinks is the most useless fucking metric. Use units of alcohol ffs
>>7641169
We can read. The fact that you punch porches, beams, walls, or anything means you need to grow up. The fact that you play videogames means you need to grow up.
If your brother is anything like you he likely is a faggot that no one is afraid of. His court date is probably due to public endangerment via critical faggotry.
>>7641409
>The fact that you play videogames means you need to grow up.
Normalfags please leave
>>7640352
6 drinks a day master race
>>7641341
A standard drink is a legit unit of measurement. It's precisely 14 grams of alcohol, or 1.75 units. No more arbitrary than units themselves.
got hit with a pretty bad cold earlier this week. still drank the first day, but i got so terribly dehydrated that night that i have been able to stop for three days now. going to see if i can go a week even if i start feeling better earlier.
>>7641917
A "standard drink" changes based on country
>>7642686
But Standard drinks and units of measurement are social constructs, maaan
>>7641917
So wait. How much is an ounce of 80 proof then? I always just go by 1 drink = 1 oz of liquor, 4 ounces wine, or 12 ounces beer.
![2015-03-09[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WOslHmX.jpg "2015-03-09[1].jpg")
>>7641258
good job, you just crossed the brink into becoming alcoholic
>>7642857
That's pretty much it.
>>7640455
You'll die one day. There'll be nothing left to worry about.
>>7640352
So the last time I gave up drinking I had a greater than 50% chance of major withdrawal, and suffered no withdrawal at all. Not bad. I'm almost tempted to binge for another month to see if I can do it again.
I still haven't died.
My habit seems a lot less severe when I don't read threads such as these...
I tapered down to around 8 drinks a day down from 12+ a night for a week now
I was trying to stop for a few days and start slow again, but I since my daily withdrawals are much less it makes me feel like going out and having a drink.
It's a damn vicious cycle
>>7640352
I'm still having trouble with this fucking chart. So say I had 8 drinks a day for the last 60 days, its a little over the green line. So theres a little over a 50% chance I'd have minor withdrawal?
>>7640352
Or if I had 10 drinks a day for 60 days theres a 50/50 chance I'd have mid level withdrawal?
I drink one 750ml bottle of beer a day, on and off, everything I drink is so bloating that I can't force myself even if I wanted to have more than one
I guess I drink a lot, but it takes 8 shots of 40% to feel the numbness. I am a large guy (122kg, 196cm), so it makes sense to need more to feel it, but everyone keeps saying how they are concerned of me.
Did a mask leak test for work. On the screen it showed alcohol levels detected. I was hungover from the night before, wasn't actually working that day either thankfully. I think I'm giving it all up lads, makes my depression a fucking nightmare, when I can normally contain it
>>7643448
Essentially yes.
>>7643367
Some people just seem completely immune until they've done it for years. Also depends on the circumstances of your drinking, e.g. do you drink all day or during the evening, how quickly you drink etc.
Someone who drinks fast until blackout and then drinks again on waking, repeat ad. infinitum, will be significantly more likely to suffer intense withdrawals than someone who drinks the same amount only at night or slowly throughout the day.
>>7640455
You'll be ok. One thing that I've noticed is avoiding liquor or at least only getting a pint instead of a fifth is not as painful as killing a full fifth in a night. I've been digging beer as I've been tapering off the alchy neet life and then I can be buzzed for a long while and go to sleep peacefully instead of passing out
>>7643551
Isn't a pint almost a fifth?
I swear living with college folk after you're done with college is the worst thing you can do for this shit. I'll try joining in on drinking games with a weak beer or something and I wind up becoming the target person to make drink since I already have a relatively high tolerance. I just want to socialize with my house man, not get belligerent.
>>7643560
A pint is less than half a fifth. Not having it available is the best defense imo.
>>7640230
I have a handle of Prestige vodka and a fuck off huge thing of green flavored Hawaiian Punch.
I drink Thursday Friday, maybe Saturday if I'm up for it. Most weeks not all. Never skip work or social functions for it. I got this shit.
>>7643574
Not by much. A pint is like a 6th, so only like 20% less.
i moved to wine
idk if that's a good thing
>>7643574
Are you retarded? a fifth is 750 ml. A pint is 570 ml?
Do math
>>7643593
At least you always have wine around for cooking.
>>7643594
A pint is really 375 ml in murrica boozing. A half bottle. It isn't a true pint but that's what we call half bottles. And some of you guys are right, that is the correct amount to drink. It's a fine line but more than that equals trouble.
>>7640230
First time posting in one of these because I think I'm getting there. About 4 months ago I first started buying alcohol for myself at home (used to only drink heavily with friends). Now I buy cheap malt liquor 40s every day coming home from work, drink 1-3 with some other beer, and follow it with whatever hard alcohol I have in stock (usually just one bottle as I try to buy new shit each trip to the liquor store).
I totally forget what it's like to fall asleep sober, this is just way too much fun. I feel like in a way it's helping me as I usually feel way more relaxed and conscious if I'm a tad hungover each morning, but that could just all be in my head so fuck if I know. I should probably take a week off or something but it doesn't make me depressed yet so that probably won't happen.
>>7643593
Someone told me box wine was mathematically better than cheap vodka but I'm calling shit.
>>7643594
What's the whether like in bongland?
>>7643602
I assume rainy and shit as always. I'm American but have always have sets of proper pint glasses so it's my only frame of reference.
>>7643594
I'm a burger so we just refer to the half fifths as pints. Then there's mini pints and I have no idea how big they are
>>7643551
>>7643574
I don't get how this helps anyone. I'm sober at the moment but when I'm drinking, there's nothing stopping me buying more when I'm out, which I most certainly do in my drunken state of mind. Buying less doesn't make more unavailable.
>>7643597
Weird. I could understand 440-500ml but 375 isn't remotely close to a pint.
>>7643620
The first thing rule for recovering from alcoholism is to always drink at home alone, so you can't get more.
>>7643624
>The first thing rule for recovering from alcoholism is to always drink at home alone
>>7643612
I bought one once, I just called it a half pint. It's actually a bit more than half a 375, I think it was like a 260 ml. As for what a murrican pint is, it's slang. You tell em you want a pint and you get a half bottle.
>>7643630
This is why I don't do bars and shit.
I have a Rainbow Dash pint glass. I fill the glass with vodka to the top of her tail, the rest with mixer. Three and a half or so of these gets me blotto.
i think don't think i'm a full-blown alcoholic.
i don't crave alcoholic. i don't get shakes when i abstain from alcohol.
but i sure like getting absolutely sloshed whenever i have stress in my life. or if i'm just really bored.
>>7640337
>getting into wine
>Rosé
i'm down to about 8 beers a night now
for a while i was going through handles of vodka every other day
the doc says my liver enzymes are elevated
so...might have to think about quitting at some point
>>7643630
burgers are weird mang. Most people I've encountered get really confused when I refer to a half gallon as a handle.
>>7643647
It's just slang mane. We think yal are weird too. But we don't really have a clue how you measure drinks. Here a fifth is 750. A pint of liqour is 375, (half bottle). A half pint is something like a 250 ml. A handle is the plastic jug with a literal handle attached to it. I'd call it a weekend dose.
>>7643658
>A handle is the plastic jug with a literal handle attached to it.
A 1.5. Double a fifth.
>>7643620
I live a ways from any liquor stores and I've never felt the need to drive drunk even when black out so personally limiting the flow intentionally helps.
>>7643647
a handle is 1.75L in america
>>7643661
I drove drunk once. You want some advice?
DON'T.
I remember maybe half of it. The realization that I went several miles on a 50 mph street with no memory scares the shit out of me. DON'T fucking do it.
Who /drunkdrivers/ here?
I always say I'll never do it but I always end up wanting to go grab more alcohol at midnight and nothings within walking distance, just 3-4 minute drives.
>>7643668
I have a good friend who got caught once after drinking too much schnapps. Woke up in a drunk tank in bfe because he was picked up just over the county line. Had some homeless dude trying to summon satan next to him.
>>7643624
Why can't you get more?
>>7643686
Pretty much this. Doesn't help that my liquor store is a 2 minute downhill walk away.
>>7643599
box of wine = 5L/10-12% ABV/$11.99
handle of wodka = 1.75L/40% ABV/$9.99 or 10.99 depending on the area
i moved to wine because i coudln't stomach vodka anymore. too many post-wake up puking.
>>7643678
>3 minute drive
>not walking distance
You fat fucking shit.
>>7643680
Hope your friend died or never drank again.
>>7643705
Nah, after that he learned restraint. I haven't seen him drink more than two beers in a night on a weekend since then. Refuses to touch liquor now.
1 1/2 cup of scotch a day so far for the past month or so, im more worried about what it's doing to my wallet tbqh
>>7640230
My manager is a bit of a causal drunk, whereas I'm a full blow drunk.
He's basically black (claims to be Puertorican or Dominican or some shit, but owns a grill).
His usual drinking habits revolve around Courvoisier, even though he drinks it with Coke(???).
One night I gave him the bottom end of a pint of Wild Turkey 101 that I had leftover from when I went to go see a movie and gave it to to him to try since it was barely enough to to piss me off.
He got HOOKED.
I have accomplished the task of getting a (more or less) black man to stop drinking nigga shit and drink straight up redneck liquor.
He has told me on several occasions that Wild Turkey is his favorite liquor, even with the various bourbons I let him sample.
Do I get a prize or something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcBOcwgb4OA
>>7643668
The problem with driving drunk is that if you're drunk enough, driving drunk is _VERY_ fun.
At the same time, driving buzzed is horrifying since you're shitting yourself the whole way worried about getting a dewey.
>>7643776
>The problem with driving drunk is that if you're drunk enough, driving drunk is _VERY_ fun.
NO. It isn't. I remembered nothing except that I got home with NO memory of how. If that doesn't scare the shit out of you then I have no idea what does.
>>7643631
Kill yourself.
As an alcoholic pizza driver, and as a person who has driven drunkcsince his teen years, I just got my first DUI about two weeks ago. My life is going to be fucked for the next few years. But I can't say I didn't deserve it. I think I must have driven buzzed or drunk at least 500 times. I don't think I'll ever do it again. After some horrid withdrawals, I'm a week and 3 days clean of alcohol. Yay
>>7644109
Not before you.
>>7643658
>his country doesn't have a units and measures act
All pint glasses in pubs are inspected under order of the Queen. If a pub is found to serve anything other than 567ml of liquid when asked for a pint they get fined.
>>7644426
From the country that brought you TV licenses. Did you have a license to make that post?
>>7643760
>Both Dugan and Jerry will die in your lifetime
What a terrible time to live.
About to get boozing, took a Xanny bar last night and some adderall and had a bunch of booze after a dinner date which was nice. Got lots of martinis at dinner, shaken Ketel One with a splash of vermouth. Big fan.
>>7644659
>i drink and take amphetamines that make drinking pointless because they just override them
you would have been better off just taking the adderall and then throwing all of the money in your wallet in the trash that you spent on booze
>>7644663
I take it every day so I have a really high tolerance. If I don't take it I feel really tired because I barely sleep because of PTSD.
>>7644663
I don't know about combining it with alcohol (I've had a really bad crazy blackout from mixing benzos with alcohol because i was drunk and the xanax bottle had no anti-drinking warning, which i totally should have sued over), but mixing xanax and adderal can actually be pretty great. gives you all the energy and focus but the xanax keeps everything nice and smooth.
also the fucking icecream truck every day for the past couple of weeks has come around right as I'm about to start drinking for the evening, to the point that I'm starting to mentally associate the stupid 'turkey in the straw' jingle with drinking.
>>7645749
>I drank on a benzos because I'm a fucking retard
>I should sue
America.
>>7646113
call me an idiot if you want i guess, but both doctor and pharmacy failing to inform a patient about a potentially fatal drug interaction is criminally irresponsible in my book.
>>7646133
Being the type of jagoff who doesn't look up the substances he's ingesting is highly irresponsible.
You're the reason why America has the most butt-fuckingly retarded warning labels on everything. You should have just killed yourself, natural selection.
>>7646147
>the most butt-fuckingly retarded warning labels on everything
that's entirely my point. they'll put anti drinking warning labels on shit like aspirin cause it might upset your tummy but they don't bother to put it on something that could kill you?
I was drunk, young, and made the faulty assumption that my doctor had told me everything I needed to know about my first prescription ever (which was for insomnia), and still had the presence of mind to thoroughly check the bottle and prescription label i had for any additional warning, which were absent.
if you really think i deserve to die over that, fuck off.
>>7646164
yes, I do.
>waah i'm retarded, where can I sue?
>>7646164
So you knew that taking aspirin with alcohol was bad but just assumed that taking an infinitely stronger medicine with alcohol was fine because there wasn't a label?
Yes, you probably should have died.
you people are depressing. alcohol is very enjoyable if you drink moderate quantities of nice stuff
been starting to get into wine and eyeing up some nice crystal stemware
>>7646175
I didn't want to sue for money, I wanted to sue so the doctor who prescribes potentially deadly meds and don't bother to mention ANY of their interactions doesn't keep doing it.
>>7646176
>So you knew that taking aspirin with alcohol was bad but just assumed that taking an infinitely stronger medicine with alcohol was fine because there wasn't a label?
again, why was i supposed to know this was an 'infinitely stronger medicine'. i was taking it for insomnia. i wasn't trying to party, i was drunk and still couldn't get to sleep.
ever since i've rigorously researched anything i've touched, but making one drunken mistake shouldn't be a death sentence (well, unless you endanger others like getting behind a wheel)
RE: benzos and alcohol, my doctor offered me diazepam when I went about my alcoholism. I questioned the safety of taking it while I'm still drinking (my tapering takes ages) and his response was something along the lines of "well you need to sleep". ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>7646201
see, this kind of shit.
I'm not saying I didn't make a huge fuckup that night, but doctors doing shit like this is not acceptable.
Also, every pharmacy since that I've transferred it to has asked me something along the lines of "have you spoken with your doctor about drug or alcohol interactions regarding this medication". it's just the right fucking thing to do.
yes, it's the smart thing to do to do your own research, and I always do now. but It's damned sure the doctor's responsibility to make sure his patient knows everything he needs to about a medication before prescribing it. I mean that's practically half a doctor's function when it comes to controlled substances, determining where they should be used and making sure they're used correctly.
I just invented a horrible cocktail
vodka + mountain dew baja blast
It's like drinking cough syrup
>>7646243
clearly you all give a huge shit since it triggered you so hard.
but yeah, let's end it.
what's everyone's drink of choice tonight? just some vodka shots with lemon seltzer for chaser.
>>7646252
Vodka and xanax. No one told me not to.
>>7646243
Why are you quoting me? I wasn't complaining about anything. I opted not to take them.
Last Thursday I was checked into a psych ward because of alcohol induced psychosis. I had fractured my foot too (don't remember how) and I'm walking around in a protective boot. I spent 5 days in the psych ward and got out Monday. Got prescribed mirtrazipine for depression and Topomax for alcohol cravings. Just returned to work today because sympathy doesn't pay the bills. So, just about a week without a drink. This is it, I'm tired of this shit. I'm never drinking again, I'm just not made for it. I'm allergic to alcohol.
>>7640573
Yeah man, look for tea with valerian root in it, helped me out.
I've been arrested twice and been to the hospital twice, once committed to a psychiatric ward because of my alcoholism. I wish alcohol didn't consume my life when I let it back in. I wish I could be normal.
I have to plan my friend's bachelor party and just looking at karaoke bars makes me want a beer. I don't know what'll happen when the day actually comes.
>>7643760
Wild Turkey 101 isn't redneck, that's a fine bourbon.
>>7646281
It's mid shelf. It's what a redneck would think is top shelf.
>>7644426
>567ml
you mean 568?
>>7647290
You're letting price dictate what you think is good, Wild Turkey 101 is great bourbon. Not everything has to be pappy van winkle. The rare breed is even better.
>>7647392
It's an ok bourbon, even decent. Great is going too far.
>>7641409
>public endangerment via critical faggotry
lel
>>7646164
>>7646164
>check the bottle and prescription label i had for any additional warning
Don't they have this entire page printed in every box in Murica?
http://www.drugs.com/xanax.html
Molecule, pharmaceutical class, important notes, before taking, how to take it, what if missed an intake?, what if I took too much?, side effects, doses, interactions with other molecules. It's the same paragraphs in France.
We have that here, it's a waste as a whole but it's so fucking useful when looking for a box of that thing you've been prescribed last year, or when something weird happens to you and want to check if it's a rare side effect that forces you to stop using immediately.
(Auto-medication is a big thing here.)
>>7645749
>mixing xanax and adderal can actually be pretty great. gives you all the energy and focus but the xanax keeps everything nice and smooth.
I never tried this during my more carefree days. Sounds kind of ridiculous, but maybe there's something to it.
>>7646164
Nope. Anyone over the age of 14-15 should be able to deduce that you shouldn't try mixing ANY sleeping medication or other sedative with alcohol. It's so common sensical it's practically instinctive.
>>7646267
commit yourself to cleaning that filthy fucking house, itll get your thoughts off for a few .. days. Jesus.
>>7643161
jokes on you, I've since my last post grabbed myself by the shortyhairs and gone back to my regular six beers a day
>>7646267
I've got a nice collection of hospital socks myself....
>>7640230
Almost two months dry. Pancreatitis ain't nothing to fuck wit
>>7647726
I cleaned up myself and I'm keeping it clean.
If I can make a suggestion to those who want to quit drinking, get Topomax. It has helped so much with my alcohol cravings. I'm a waiter in New Orleans, and I got cut early from work tonight. As I was walking home, I walked by several busy bars at around 930 pm. Normally I would have parked my ass in a barstool and started drinking. Tonight, zero urge whatsoever to drink. I've never been like this as long as I can remember.
>>7646278
>I don't know what'll happen when the day actually comes
God speed anon, I'm pulling for you.
>>7646267
shit bro those fucking socks, brings back terrible memories
Alcohol is haram.
Out to lunch and they had margaritas on special. Had to add the extra shot.
>>7640230
I am dying
T O O
S L O W L Y
Be honest with me. Is this worth it? It's literally 10.8 cents a minute.
>>7651425
There is literally not a single IPA in the entire world that is worth buying.
>>7651429
It's not for a pack my man. It's for a single 12 ounce. But everyone raves about how "THIS BEER IS LIKE WINE MAN BUY IT AND AGE IT"
>>7651430
this tbqf
>>7651425
Yes, don't even think twice about buying multiple bottles if you can find that many. I mean, it's just beer, but it's hyped up for a good reason.
>>7651425
Its good stuff if you can afford it. A local bar here has it on tap and its about 6 bucks for a pint, surprisingly cheaper than buying your own take-home
>>7643624
Yeah why cant i get more? I ran out this morning. Bout to drive to the store soon.
>>7651449
If only. Alcohol sales are prohibited in Indiana on Sunday. So im sweating it out today
>>7651470
God dammit thats horrible. I thought america was the land of the free. My only issue is i gotta get to the beer store by 6pm or there closed.
>>7651470
Move to a non-shit state. Here we can buy till 1 AM, bars serve till two every day. Can buy liquor in any type of store.
>>7651470
I went to a wedding in Indiana last year and driving threw all I could think was, "what a shithole".
Why anyone would choose to live there is beyond me. At least it's not the South.
>>7651485
Yep. Around here you have to stock up the day before. The only other option is a couple local breweries that sell 64oz jugs of craft beer, aka growlers. By that point, im trying to get the most for my money so I usually get the Scotch ale which is a 12% ABV
>>7644432
Don't forget to tip the internet provider you have.
>24 years old
>major lightweight
>no friends so never been to a bar, don't know what they are like
>no idea about beer types and craft ones and all that shit
>all i do is drink a few shots alone which gets me buzzed or pleb drinks like a white russian
>>7643642
>having misconceptions about rose when it's just as reputable of a wine as other wines
>>7651541
>white russian
>pleb drink
