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Fort McMurray General - Anzac dies tonight edition
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**85000 hectares (now larger than Edmonton or Calagary)

*Alberta Government update:
http://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?xID=41701E7ECBE35-AD48-5793-1642C499FF0DE4CF

*Fort McMurray evacuated and over 1,600 buildings destroyed:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-36199993
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/wildfire-destroys-fort-mcmurray-homes-most-of-city-evacuated-1.3563977
http://globalnews.ca/news/2679357/live-updates-of-fort-mcmurray-wildfire/

*Anzac and other communities south of Fort McMurray that many residents fled too now evacuated as well:
http://www.fortmcmurraytoday.com/2016/05/05/mandatory-evacuation-as-fire-threatens-anzac-gregoire-lake-estates

*Provincial State of Emergency called:
http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/fort-mcmurray-fire-state-of-emergency-declared-1.2887111

*Could High Level and region be next?
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/high-level-alberta-fire-evacuation-order-1.3567321

*Wildrose Party leader, Brian Jean, loses home in the fire
http://globalnews.ca/news/2678791/fort-mcmurray-wildfire-alberta-wildrose-leader-brian-jean-loses-his-home/
http://www.calgarysun.com/2016/05/04/wildrose-leader-brian-jean-and-fellow-mla-tany-yao-see-their-hometown-burn

*Airport feed (down a lot)
http://www.metcam.navcanada.ca/hb/index.jsp?lang=e

previous thread at >>73110425
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According to FBI data, 4,906 black people murdered other blacks in 2010 and 2011. That is 1,460 more black Americans killed by other blacks in two years than were lynched from 1882 to 2016

Blacks kill over 25% more blacks in one year than "racists" did in 134 years
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>>73126243

What the fuck does this have to do with fire, and fire accessories?
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>>73126025

Thread Theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRQiiDvvNNY
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>>73126365
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Lived in Calgary about 8 years ago.
Fort MacMoney was a legendary place back then.
RIP in peace, oil town ;_;7
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>>73126365

I was wondering the same thing.

>They have removed all manpower defending Anzac. Only air support.

Air support does not fly at night...
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During the morning fires were coming through Abasand along the downtown Valley peak. Going house by house. Fire was put out with damage to approximately three houses.
Saprae Creek estates east of the airport has been hit hard, likely serious losses.
The bridge by Abasand as two hours ago has been a high priority.
Fire crews are dropping fire retardant around the Thickwood and the Water Treatment plant area.
Parsons Creek area has been hit hard, likely serious losses in those areas.
Macdonald Island had fires in areas last night, some crews were forced to move their water trucks to Timberlea as a result.
Albian air strip had a fire today a few hours ago but it has been taken care of.
That is all for now.
A reminder that these are UNOFFICIAL and UNVERIFIED reports,
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>Twitter feed
https://twitter.com/hashtag/ymmfire?f=tweets&vertical=news&src=hash

>Wildfire updates
https://twitter.com/rmwoodbuffalo

>Emergency updates
http://www.alberta.ca/emergency.cfm

>Webm's prev thread
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>>73126392
Sup Peterboroughfag.
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any updates on that sulfur storage place?
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Has our glorious leader said/done anything yet?
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>>73126828

Comfy comfy, how about you, Lindsay, Barrie?
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>>73126944
Arnprior, west of Ottawa.

I'd have a town flag but it's too small to have one.
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>>73126749
Thank you kind leaf.
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>>73126392
Actual thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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>>73126921
Probably enjoying a blunt.
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>>73127121

Eh, they are both about fire and stuff
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>>73126944
Scarborofag reporting in, anyone have a 9.9/15hp outboard for sale?
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Is this any change from the actual brew?
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>>73127016

Ah, I made this one and got it added on the github for the extra flags
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>>73126921

Full Fed assistance and matching Red Cross donations which are up to $11 million and growing.

Speeches, etc. He will not visit Fort Mac until cleared to do so. Criticised May for her blaming this on climate change.
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Actual thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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>>73126921

He's probably planning his next vacation.

He did say some words though yesterday, but made a some stupid star wars joke to "kick things off"
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>>73127378
>>73127121
Hivemind.
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No one cared until we put on the heat
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IGGS HABBEDING
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>>73127187
Is that the joke or is this real?
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>>73127569
Goodbye Canada, guess no one is moving to you afterall.
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>TFW I live in Victoria
>TFW I'm comfy and safe from wildfires

Tossed ten dollarydoos your way though ya fuckin hosers

Hope you'll do the same for me when the big one hits
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>>73127569
All those new flare ups are probably from a mix of embers and lightning from those pyrocumulonimbus clouds.

The blood sacrafice to Baal was completed on May 1st, and now the blood of Alberta is being drained.
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>>73127569
Look at the regularity of those hot spots. I was right when I said that jews hired planes to drop flares on dry grass.
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>>73127634
It is real.

Also making a joke about it.

They produced 70,000 cans of water and donated them. Lot of breweries do this in disasters.
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>>73127569
SPREAD IT AROUND LIKE WIIIIIIILDFIIIIIIIIIIIRE
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>>73127187
Must be their new blue light formula.
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>>73127378
>>73127479
>>73127121
>>73126392

Potential second place thread theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
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Officials confirming what we're seeing from SE #Gregoire shore this hour: Fire is 'on Anzac's doorstep'.
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>>73127744
sick Trudeaus!
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>>73127896
Nah m8, this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u--C_PMqviU
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Timberlea from the sky
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what are the odds of a supply shock fucking up Canada's economy putting it into a recession?

Supply shocks are bad too, theres pretty much nothing you can do to fix them as prices rise and unemployment increases
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Meanwhile, this plays in the background.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEtkIRlz7Vw
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While watching the videos of the fire:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkObnNQCMtM
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>>73128146
1/3 of the oil operations have been stopped in Alberta.

It's a pretty big deal but it's not going to cause a recession.
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>>73127634
http://globalnews.ca/news/2097175/labatt-breweries-providing-drinking-water-to-evacuees/
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>>73127972
i can't fucking believe how tall the smoke is

and how thick

it's insane
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>>73128235
I can only think of Platoon when I hear this.
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>>73128279
This is a pic from yesterday at 25000 feet.
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>>73128246
The main concern is that there has been reports that people dropped insurance on homes due to job losses recently so some people might not even get a insurance check.
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>>73127972

Yep - they're fucked.
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>>73127316
>Full Fed assistance and matching Red Cross donations which are up to $11 million and growing.

Nice to see that Canadians get about 1/100th what the Liberals are willing to give goat rapists.
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>>73128387
There will be tons of federal aid though for this disaster. It shouldn't be that bad.
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>>73128351
MAKE IT FUCKING STOP

how much forest is there to burn??

it's insane
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>>73128351
It's so beautiful, I can't handle this right now
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>>73128403
MAKE A LEAF BLAZE AGAIN
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I'm still not sure why the city never cut a 600m wide fire break around the outside of the city.

It's not like Alberta has a shortage of out of work cat operators with nothing better to do.
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>>73128279

From NASA..

http://globalnews.ca/news/2683261/nasa-sees-fort-mcmurray-wildfires-from-space/
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>>73127687
This was nice of you to do. Thanks, friendo.
I don't live in fort Mac (I'm about an hour and a half eadt of edmonton) but I've got friends and family who were there working. It's nice to see people actually being nice to each other though
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>>73128470
A few million square KM's I guess. Canada has 300 billion trees.
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>>73128470
i looked on google maps and theres alot honestly and a huge wild are south of the fire
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>>73128470
There's a fucking lot of forest left to burn. A shit-ton of it.
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>>73128647
What's a fire break going to do against billions of embers flying kilometers in the wind's direction?
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>>73128403
dear lord.
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>>73128778
This, and the clouds from the fire of smoke are generating their own lightning and wind.
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>>73128725
it's good to hear my fellow anglos pull together during tough times.
good luck gents
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>>73128470
>how much forest is there to burn??
3 million square km of boreal forest in Canada.
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God is doing this to punish Newfoundland

>politicians in Newfoundland raise tax to 15% including a new levy, increasing registration, healthcare, etc..
>give themselves a 50,000 dollar raise
>lay off 1200 government workers in frontline jobs (education, municipal)
>businesses will die during this time well the MPs make more money
>15,000 Newfoundland workers live in Fort McMurray
>all will come home to go on E.I.

Newfoundland will get harder than Alberta after this.
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>>73128470
When it hit Anzac, there a entire forest reserve of untouched woods to burn.
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>>73127687
>>73128725
Where can I donate?
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>>73128725
Poor as fuck and I donated $5 today.
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>>73127687

Matching your ten from the Maritimes.

When the big one hits, you can crash on my couch and bring your sweet sister's sweet Chink pussy.
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>>73126581
Who filmed that, looters? Are Syrians in there already?
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>>73128950
Not just Newfoundland, it's the entirety of Atlantic Canada. We're bred out here to head out there.
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>>73128980
People say the red cross, but I will be blunt. The red cross will not spend your money to help people. It just goes in the main fund.
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I hate to admit it but this shit is getting more real and sad by the minute... It's the Calgary flood all over again
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>>73129059

I think most of the syrians were put in the calgary's ghetto forest lawn, probably edmonton to
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This is disgusting guys. Really feel bad here. I'm from corn country Illinois, and I appreciate good timber and woods when I can.

Good luck guys. Be safe please.
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>>73129115
i want it to burn all of NA then jump the pacific and atlantic and burn EU as well
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>>73129107
Yeah like fuck I'm donating to the Red Cross.
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>>73129115
>>73129202
Everything under the tree line should burn desu
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>>73129107
>I will be blunt
he's already blazed anon
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>>73128026
NICE IM IN THE RED.
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>>73129059
News crew I think.
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>>73126581
How the fuck is that car on its side??
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>>73129302
Probably gas tank exploding. Wondered the same thing.
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>>73126724
>>73126581

If you are the Ameribro from the last thread what is your stake in all of this? Why do you know so much about Ft Mac?
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>>73126025
So, will this region become a horrifying eternal ash waste haunted by the souls of the damned after the fires burn out?
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Will Oil town be rebuilt?

Will the fire burn to Edmonton or Calgary?
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>>73128956
>When it hit Anzac, there a entire forest reserve of untouched woods to burn.

Good. I love knowing that greenies and treehuggers are getting BTFO as well at least.
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Seeing fort mac burning to the ground like that. My god, it's a literal dream come true. Sucks that the people who lived/worked there might get fucked over though, but a small price to pay knowing how much this will fuck over the bottom line of the fucking kikes.

Good for the environment n stuff. And the bush that's burned to the ground was mostly a fucking playground for inbread swine from the rock; playing hunter on their quad fucking up what was pristine wilderness.
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>>73127896
You're all faggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u06DpcFXc4U
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>>73129416
They started the fire.
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Alberta Apocalypse when

I'm thinking I might make a fake Facebook acct and try to pretend I'm some religious nut preaching about how this is a sign of the end times if we don't change our ways and how it happened because God wanted us to cleanse this sinful city with holy fire so that it could be reborn and usher in a cleaner, healthier way of life and blah blah blah. You know. Stir the shit pot a bit, get some people angry, get some people thinking.

Til then I'm just gonna keep donating what I can to the Red Cross and local support groups etc
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And how is our NDP overlords handling this situation? Poorly?
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>>73129063

Where you at maritime brah?
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>>73129214
If it was me, I would contact the local LDS bishop and make a direct donation to the Fast funds, which are the funds that stay local, and pass on that it to help the refugees.

Of course, I say that since I know that 100% will go to help them. That said, I am LDS (Mormon) so take it with a grain of salt.
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>>73128672
>>73128726
>>73128733
>>73128767


So this is how the end of the world looks like...

It started with the fires in May, they haven't stopped for weeks, 7 months have passed by and the forest is dead, the fire is fueled by the oil refineries and a newly found methane pouch underground, the fire was so hot the earth beneath it started to melt.

The atmosphere it's being damaged beyond repair

3 years and it still goes on, Elon Musk and other billionaires have taken refuge in tropical islands with glass domes and air filtration and recycling systems.

The masses are panicking, there's terror on the streets.

Cars have been modified with heavier filters so they are able to run without destroying the engine.

The ashes from the fire have made the biggest cloud in human history blocking the western hemisphere and slowing down the gulf current

Everything is lost

We are hopeless, i fear for my kids but i can't take it, my lungs hurt and i have to go out again to gather water and a few supplies for the generators

I'm tired of this

Kill me please
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>>73128778
>What's a fire break going to do against billions of embers flying kilometers in the wind's direction?
Flying embers don't tend to start the outsides homes on fire. Modern homes are actually more than a little fire proof.

And if the embers are landing on buildings then residents and the fire department can put them out. What levels cities like Cold Lake is when burning trees and brush are close to buildings then buildings start to burn and can then consume other surrounding buildings.

A fire break will stop the forest from being right beside the outside of the town and burning it.

For the record the report on the Cold Lake fire suggested that fire brakes and eliminate the problem of forest fires destroying cities and towers.

That suggestion was clearly never implemented. But then again people still live in the old area of High River, and Calgary hasn't done anything to stop the downtown from flooding again.
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>Evacuate city to escape fire.
>It chases you.

R'hllor hungers.
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>>73129560

Its a big fire.
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>>73129617
Cape Breton, b'y.

>>73129619
>LDS

I appreciate the willingness to help but I wouldn't donate to them either.
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>>73129712
4u
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>>73129604
Well the cut the budget for forest fires so i imagine Rachel Notley is crying. First and definitely the last they will ever hold power in albt
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>>73129464
The forests will grow back thicker and fuller.
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>>73129783
Hey fish fucker.
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>>73129663
>Flying embers don't tend to start the outsides homes on fire.

Have you seen any of these videos? The guy driving with the front and rear mounted dashcam videos perfectly captures embers hitting houses and lighting them up like tinderboxes.
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>>73129416
I worked there for three months, so I kinda know how the towns related to each other (I sold Heavy equipment parts.) and I am following social media.

As for the webms, I am one of the habitual webm makers over on /tv/
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>>73129513
If the weather cooperates, it shouldn't reach edmonton (but there's another fire just west of edmonton that started around the same time so who knows how much that one will grow and spread). All I know is that im not gonna leave my house. That glorious fire shall free me
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>>73127782
>>73128264
If I was there I'd definitely keep a hold of a couple if I could.

They'll probably be collectors items in a few years.
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>>73129783

NB here. How are you enjoying life also under the Liberal death grip? Gibs-me-dat Gallant is giving out free tuition for low income kids (Read: Northern French Cocksuckers).
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>>73129913
Fuck you faggot, we fuck our cousins not our fish. Fish are for eating and selling for puff and liquor.
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>>73129464

No, of course not. Forests need to burn down which is why it's such a planning blunder that Fort Mac was built there in the first place.

Boreal forests are very resilient and in a few short years you wouldn't even be able to tell a fire happened there.
http://www.nrcan.gc.ca/forests/fire-insects-disturbances/fire/13149
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If the sulfur pyramids explode there better be a fucking video. I need this
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I know it sounds stupid but since the city is evacuated, why don't they just, Bomb the fire?

I mean the shockwave from concentrated bunker busters should be enough to compress and debilitate the fire.

Don't they have some bombs specifically made for these kind of fires???
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A
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>>73126025
Sorry for being ignorant here but what the fuck is causing such massive wildfires? We get shitloads of them down here but really only in the height of summer and we also get much higher temperatures/dryer conditions (40+C, zero humidity)

Seriously, What the actual fuck?
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>>73129929

After living here, how do you view leafs?
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>>73130017
>How are you enjoying life also under the Liberal death grip?

I think like me and two other guys are the only ones who hate this Liberal jerkfest. This place has been gibs me dat long before I was around and will continue to be so, regardless of who's in charge.
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>>73129682
I feel bad for laughing but holy fuck my sides are in orbit
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>>73129919
>Have you seen any of these videos? The guy driving with the front and rear mounted dashcam videos perfectly captures embers hitting houses and lighting them up like tinderboxes.

Because they have been heated by near by fires.
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>>73130183
Isn't it winter for you right now?
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>>73129513
No. The oil industry there was already in the shitter, and now the population has been displaced. Most of those people aren't going to come back. What's burned down wont be rebuilt. Much of what didn't burn will simply be abandoned, as with the population gutted, there's no reason for much of the downtown area to exist. Worst case the place is like a Canadian version of Pripyat (80,000 people used to live here!). Best case its like a smaller, Canadian version of Detroit - dead, decaying suburbs surrounding a still barely alive downtown core.

As for the fires reaching Edmonton... no. That's way to far, and the wind isn't really going to blow that way anyway.
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>>73129537
>>73129537
>canada
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>>73129783
Any reason why not? Just curious, not going to get offended. Fast offerings are 100% to helping the local community. There is no salary being drawn as well.

Salvation army is also very good at making sure the aid goes where it is donated. Not sure if they are big in the area.
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>>73129919
Can you post these? can't find them
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>>73129647

Settle down, Cormac, everything's fine. This shit happens all the time.
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>>73130149
FUCK YES
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>>73130249
Doesn't even matter how "fire proof" these houses are since the surrounding grass is catching fire anyway.
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>>73130183
El nino

Arid hot air, hotter than usual climate

it was a tragedy waiting to happen
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>>73130183

It is a combination of the climate in Alberta (very dry), the unseasonably high temperatures (30+C early in the season), and the type of fire (tree top fires are very dangerous as the tops are the driest part, making it easy to spread). Combine that with the high winds, and you now have the perfect recipe for a fire.

t. Guy who is friends with a forest ranger.
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>>73130327
fucking hell that shit is out of this world
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Let us all not forget about the several thousand tons of exposed elemental Sulfur nearby.
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>>73130312
They are not going to walk away from 60+ billion in production and refining facilities because a few buildings burn down in town.
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>>73130373
there's nothing you can do to stop it.

You will have to wait it out
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>>73130424
>Doesn't even matter how "fire proof" these houses are since the surrounding grass is catching fire anyway.
Do you not know what a fire break is?
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>>73130235
Very nice people, hardworking for the most part. Much more British leaning then Americans. I think Trudeau is a freaking idiot. (I was up when Harper was in power).

My first wife is a american born in BC.
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>implying the theme of the thread is music, and not... prose.

This is the true theme of all /pol/ threads on this subject. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm_0eF4cEwo
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the people that have house insurance must be so happy right now

so much money
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>>73130249
It's not just embers. Small branches can travel hundreds of meters. Carried by strong updrafts created in the fires, they can rise several hundred feet, and settle in almost any direction. The embers are usually wind blown and are downwind to the fires. The have a shorter burn time, but the branches drop from above and are like dropping a lit torch on wherever they land.
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>>73130308
Yeh, its not fire season at the moment. But our winter is barely cooler than your summer. Are Canadian species just that shit at coping with fire?
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>>73130615
typical Swedish attitude
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Blaze it faggots
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>>73129537
Hopefully it takes Edmonton down with it
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>>73130353
www facebook com/michel.chamberland.18/posts/10154248253006177?pnref=story

>>73130633
Yes and like I said again it's not going to help when an ember can fly over that shit like it was nothing.
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>>73129836
As expected of our Alberta bros. I came to Alberta too late to stop this madness. Now we all suffer and learn from it.
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>>73130759

You again. Add that Canada's Largest Mosque in Calgary
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>>73129933
Good luck my good anon.

It is raining in Calgary today so I hope the rain cloud will travel to Fort Mac.
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>>73130183

April/May in Canada is worst time for forest fires because new growth hasn't come in yet. Last year we had El Nino which made everything along the West Coast drier with less rainfall and way less snowpack. Humidity too low - temps too high. Forests and plains dried up. Even the smallest of fires could become a raging inferno (like what we're witnessing now). Thing is, there are thousands of forest fires throughout the country every year. What makes this one different is it's taking out towns. This shit usually happens where nobody lives/cares.

It's a media frenzy is all.
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>>73130759
Why the hate to Edmonton? Won too many Cups?

>Best image of the happening.
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>>73129836
You mean those cuts that don't take effect until August? Good job following this on facebook.
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>>73127016
Labrador fag checking in.
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>>73130735

All the efforts to stop it are in vane, the smoke is so thick and the cloud so big it's useless to risk pilots to spit a little bit of water on it

It's out of control

The Canadian authorities fucked up big time.

Which is even more ironic since it's near an oil plant or oil extraction site? something like that

That fire is scary AF familiare did you see the vid of that guy in the pick up??

Purple flames.... fucking purple
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>>73130716
>It's not just embers. Small branches can travel hundreds of meters. Carried by strong updrafts created in the fires, they can rise several hundred feet, and settle in almost any direction. The embers are usually wind blown and are downwind to the fires. The have a shorter burn time, but the branches drop from above and are like dropping a lit torch on wherever they land.

Take a stick and light it on fire. Now with the burning stick go and try and burn down a house.
Not going to work.

~

What you are suggesting to be clear is that because some buildings might suffer some damage from burning embers, we should take no action of any kind to protect the outside of the city with a fire break.

That's like saying we can't stop 100% of car accidents so, remove all safety features in all vehicles because it's not perfect.
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>>73130759
THIS is the faggot who always turns these threads into east vs west.

Gas yourself, kike.
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>>73130650

You were in the hardest working part of the country, so that makes sense. I miss the glory days of the Harper-Bush brotherhood.
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>>73130312
For our Alberta brothers, it may be a good vacation spot.
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>>73130979
>Take a stick and light it on fire. Now with the burning stick go and try and burn down a house.
>A burning stick is the same as an entire forest on fire.

Downvoted.
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>>73129663
Embers are more dangerous than the fire front when it comes to houses. All it takes it one ember to get into the gutters or a small gap in the roof, then the entire house goes up.
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>>73130778
>Yes and like I said again it's not going to help when an ember can fly over that shit like it was nothing.

So no one should ever try and make a fire break. That aspect of forest fire fighting is stupid and should be stopped, and home owners should just let trees grow right up to their back windows?
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>>73130465
Isn't it usually snowing at this time of year up north near deadmonton?
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>>73129513
>Will Oil town be rebuilt?

If the price of oil ever rebounds, maybe. Those low prices aren't going to last forever.
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I thought the Flames were in southern Alberta.
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FFT1 Ranked Wildland Firefighter here to answer all forest fire related questions
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>>73130465
>high temps and wind
>dry
>not even summer yet

Stay safe syrupniggers
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>>73131164
Fire breaks need additional support to be rendered effective. Back during that Yellowstone fire embers made it over the so called fire breaks.

Didn't turn out too well.
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>>73131043
I been to Quebec too. For the most part if they had a fire like this I would be cheering on the fire to take them all out.
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>>73130688
If our past experiences with natural disasters and insurance is anything to go by, they can worm out of paying easily. Most insurance does not cover natural disasters or acts of God.
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Remember, this will drive AB and BC division.

INDEPENDENCE WHEN?
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>>73130956
>>73130956
Im from mb so wasn't aware it wasnt till august. Just read it in cbc they cut the budget.
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>>73130149
>sulfur pyramids
wew lad they are already bigger then the egypt ones. are they trying to summon baal or something?
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>>73131183
Yeah our weather has been crazy fucked up this spring. One day it'll snow then the next day it'll be +25°C and dry as fuck with not a cloud in the sky. Its been a weird few weeks
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>>73130969
I remember the last big fire to threaten a major city here (Kelowna '03 - a lot of friends were there). The fire was so dangerous thousands of firefighters and soldiers were deployed and they saved pretty much the whole city.

Fort Mac on the other hand had nothing of the sort. The fire had been going on for weeks, but not a murmur from anywhere, until it was too late. So I have the sense this was one of those fires where it's like baseball - you've got it until you don't.
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>>73130979
>Take a stick..

These aren's just sticks. These are branches with masses of smaller limbs, sometimes with burning leaves, completely dried out from the heat of the fire, burning and smoldering, and falling out of the sky by the hundreds or thousands.

And if you want to see what a burning stick can do, take one out of a fireplace and drop it on the rug or couch, and then go out for a beer. Chances are your house won't be quite the same way you left it.
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>>73128403
>Picture was taken from eastern shore of Japan looking toward Canada
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>>73131137
>Embers are more dangerous than the fire front when it comes to houses. All it takes it one ember to get into the gutters or a small gap in the roof, then the entire house goes up.

So do nothing at all in anyway to protect the city with a fire break.

You have a one in a million chance for a fire that the local fire department or citizens/residents and put out but that's too big a risk so do nothing at all because you might still get a few localized fires.

Also just to be sure, what fucking gap in the roof are you talking about? Their are none because it's -40C in winters.
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>>73131307
>FFT1 Ranked Wildland Firefighter here to answer all forest fire related questions

What, if any, parts of Burgerland are fucked and will be McMurray'd soon?
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https://twitter.com/StormhunterTWN/status/728396832217370629
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If any of the fires or fire smoke crosses over the American border i swear to God we're going to bomb the shit out of Canada
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>>73131354
yea they would probably tell you here oh you dont have wildfire insurance i guess youre fucked
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>>73130969
blue flames= burning sulphur
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>>73130717

No, we're actually quite adept at it. Dept of Forestry sets prescribed fires all the time to keep everything healthy and diverse.

Problem with this one is poor planning and they cut funding for fire prevention. Alberta gov fucked up.
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>>73131273
CARLOS
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>>73131506
We're saying firebreaks aren't as effective as you're making them out to be.
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>>73131379
it's a byproduct from oil refinement
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>>73131578

So NDP up jewish tricks?
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>>73131408
Calgary was literally 31 degrees yesterday.
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>>73131164
Fight fire with fire. They should regularly control burn outside all these 'towns in forests' to prevent these raging infernos. What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
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I wonder if Fort Mcmurray people still have to fill out their census by next week
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>>73131559
Fires are almost always covered.

Floods are almost never covered.
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>>73131711
Anon, they have to.

It's the LAW.
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>>73131320
>Fire breaks need additional support to be rendered effective. Back during that Yellowstone fire embers made it over the so called fire breaks.

Fire breaks don't work great when you can blow an ember over and have it land in more forest, but when that ember is going to land on a modern building or a city street it's not that big a risk. In that while an uncontrolled fire will consume a town like what happened in Cold Lake, if you keep the massive conflagration 600m away from your buildings they tend to do much better.
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>>73130969

We're fine, you fucking sped.
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>>73131309

I also forgot the worst part

>Federal government is run by not only a Liberal, but a Liberal with a serious grudge against Alberta.

Look into the history of the Trudeau family's relations with Alberta. When his father was running the show he tried to fuck them over, and they have hated those cunts ever since.

Also:

>Provincial government (NDP) is our furthest left party in the country, and was voted in on a protest vote against the Conservatives.

The NDP absolutely loath Alberta's oil industry, and also gutted their wildfire budget this year.

>Pic 100% fucking related.

This NDP cock sucker was a candidate during the last election. He decided in the middle of a national tragedy (everyone across the country knows someone in Ft Mac) to say this is karma for fucking climate change.

We are in trouble, and they are not going to do shit.
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>>73131711
No, they are letting that slide. Saw some announcement on twitter.
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>>73131711
Why did I laugh.
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>>73130312
Hah, I fucking wish this were true anon. The "downtu(d)rn" was just market players (OST, SU ect.) being greedy kikes and making risky investments in the preceding-peak oil years. It was already a well established and bustling town decades prior to the oil boom thanks to slave labor from eastern plebs. Though they have become too expensive and sjw with their demands and were promptly replaced by cheap mudslime labor.

At its worst, it'll return to pre-boom times. But almost certainly, after a few years, it'll mostly return to normal levels with betabux from provincial and ottawa kucks.
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>>73131809
>but when that ember is going to land on a modern building or a city street it's not that big a risk.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>73131462
wait what??

weeks?

i thought it started out 4 days ago

what the fuck

>>73131574
yes exactly

but it was coming out of a small tree, how much sulfur is there in a tree trunk?
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>>73131471
>And if you want to see what a burning stick can do, take one out of a fireplace and drop it on the rug or couch,

Why not a roof of shed build with the same fire retardant materials of modern housing construction?
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>>73128235
I sang this back in highschool choir
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>>73131512
So far we are about two weeks out from fires in Cal and Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Montana, and North Dakota will be roughly 3-4 weeks from now. Arizona and Texas and New Mexico are obvious. El Nino is very bad this year and will peak in a month and I predict we will see more than 5 fires hit the 1 million acre mark. States that usually don't have fires will blaze. This year is going to be something we have not seen for a very very long time. It may be something we have never seen outside of war time.
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thanks NDP
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>>73131627
i laughed
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>>73131970
Dude, the GRASS is flammable.
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>>73131823
ow

ok then

happy burning, i didn't knew city evacuation is canadian for fine , you learn something new every day
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>>73131506
A roof can leak, damage can happen during storms that you don't realise. There are a number of ways a roof can not be 100% sealed.

Firebreaks are only part of an effective fire management system. Of course it's better to have them, but a firebreak will not guarantee your house will survive as embers can bypass the gap.
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some reports now that the fire is at Anzac.
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>>73132086
Please do tell the story behind that image.
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>>73130312
They will rebuild. They are already posting jobs for demolition/cleaning on goybook. $14/hour 8-16 hour days.
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>>73131990
Cal and Idaho are 2 weeks out
The rest are 3 weeks out, sorry.
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>>73131623
Goddamn the Sheriffs have nice bikes.
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>>73128246
Alberta is in a recession there dink
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>>73131673
>We're saying firebreaks aren't as effective as you're making them out to be.
I'm saying that the recommendations from Cold Lake report offered them as the solution to be implemented everywhere.

Also you know like 8000 years of human history protecting cities and dwellings from fires.

We have set back /spacing requirements for buildings to protect them. With modern materials they are much closer than was common in the past and tend not to spiral out of control.
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>>73132181
i have no idea, i stole it from another polack

i still can't stop laughing every time i look at it

it's so fucking stupid it makes me giggle like a moron
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>>73131990
>So far we are about two weeks out from fires in Cal and Idaho, Washington, Oregon, Montana, and North Dakota will be roughly 3-4 weeks from now. Arizona and Texas and New Mexico are obvious. El Nino is very bad this year and will peak in a month and I predict we will see more than 5 fires hit the 1 million acre mark. States that usually don't have fires will blaze. This year is going to be something we have not seen for a very very long time. It may be something we have never seen outside of war time.

The Fire Rises, Indeed.
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>>73131970
Lets see what else can burn;

Landscape mulch
Debris in gutters
Trees in yard
Dry lawns
Decks
Plastic lawn furniture
Leaves or leaf piles in yards
Garbage
Misc. flammable objects in yards

Embers don't just land of roofs...
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>>73130312
FORT MAC WAS AN INSIDE JOB.
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Do Canadian Wildland Firefighters do night shift? I understand that this is a crown fire and almost everything is useless against this. Just curious.
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>>73131990
it won't affect anyone that lives in civilization though so who cares
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>>73132181
oh, here found it

http://www.heatherhastie.com/aue-tenei-wiki-6-march-2016-saudi-cleric-says-posting-pictures-on-social-media-can-cause-cancer/

the video is so funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCZfpI9oHJE
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>>73126025
The Canada's on fire
But we don't need no water let the motherfucker burn
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Jesus, I made the thread like a hour ago and it up to 225 post already.
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>>73130178
>just bomb the fire
this fire is several square kilometers wide anon, this isn't some bullshit oil-well fire or something this is a hurricane of flame
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>>73132459
Thanks anon!
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>>73132536
>oil-well fire
>oil sands
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>>73131711
fucking kek
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>>73132165
>Dude, the GRASS is flammable.

But not a huge source of fuel. You can burn the lawn grass around a house and not damage it.

But that also ignores that you can also keep your grass 1m back and have no risk of your lawn burning your house down.

Or you can keep the lawn watered. The town doesn't have water issues due to the size of the river it's built around and it's population.

However, again I will ask; Because you might have grass burn no action should be taken to protect the town from fire and you should build right to the tree line with zero space to protect from fires?

Are you actually saying that?
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>>73132306
To be fair, he might just be taking what we know for decades, what spiderman said so well, that that image gave me cancer.
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>>73132536
yeah i guess i can't comprehend the scope of how big this is
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guys my cousin just sent this...
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>>73132449
Dumbest post of the century. Any 1,000,000 acre area in America has at the lowest 5 cities.
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FIRST FORT MCMURRY AND ANZAC

THEN THE ENTIRE PROVINCE OF ALBERTA AND THE PRAIRIES

AND FINALLY ENTIRE CANADA

WILL BURN
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>>73132504
People are still driving out of Anzac?

And why do I think of New Zealand when they mention Anzac?
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>>73132166

The fire will go out, people go back, shit gets rebuilt, insurance covers everything and if not, there is plenty of aid available. We're not third world.

You make it sound like the fucking apocalypse. Relax.
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>>73128726
...who counted all the trees?
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>>73132857
yeah fight fire with tanks

that will help
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>>73131934
Yeah it started out small but the local folk were optimistic that they had it under control. Then Murphys Law took effect and it got closer and closer to the city and just took off
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>>73132174
>A roof can leak, damage can happen during storms that you don't realise. There are a number of ways a roof can not be 100% sealed.

Sure, but you will notice it in winter in Fort Mac. Further the roof leads to a supporting understructure and then to 100% fire proof insulation.

The only way you will get a fire is if your magic ember manages to have enough energy to light a structural member on fire after passing through some sort of gap. (A gap I'm not sure even can exist)
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>>73132777
Triple 7's confirms poster is an idiot
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>>73132777
Grass isn't a huge source of fuel? Fucking grass?

>keep the lawn watered

...

>However, again I will ask; Because you might have grass burn no action should be taken to protect the town from fire and you should build right to the tree line with zero space to protect from fires?

How many times do we have to tell you? Fire breaks are GOOD, but they're not as effective as you think they are.

Are YOU actually saying these things or are you the fire come to shitpost on /pol/?
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>>73132873
by civilization i mean cities that matter
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>>73132902
Named after the australian and new zealand army corps. They surveyed the town site during WW1
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>>73132857
TANKS 30 MINUTES AGO
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>>73126025
Did the oil blow up yet?
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>>73133045
Ahhh thanks anon!
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>>73132857
There is a man that lives in Fort McMurray with a tank collection. There was one at the Legion in waterways called Melissa. Give me a moment to upload it.
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