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Cruz isn't cheating. He's following the rules. This is the way things have always been. Stop whining, Trumpists.
Neocons need to be hung from streetlamps.
>>72029043
this tbqh lad
>>72029016
The rules are used time and time again to disenfranchise voters.
>COME ON GUYS IT"S JUST THE RULES
This is why not matter what at the end of the day it is Trump or Bernie fuck the rest.
>>72029016
>he still has to explain this to retards
It's shocking really. It's not about 'it's the rules!' it's the fact that it disenfranchises more than half your voter base. The worst part is all the cruzcucks that call in all the time with the same parroted lines of 'if he's so good at making deals why doesn't he make the deals with these delegates, huh???' meanwhile they'll still claim that Cruz is anti-establishment.
>>72029016
Trump shouldn't have gotten into politics without researching how to play the game, then he goes around complaining about a rigged process
>>72029016
Poor Rush. Caught between what he knows is right and getting paid. He is having trouble with his life right now. Most of his listeners are trump supporters. He is getting a lot of shit from them. I have a feeling he is going to crack soon.
>>72029564
The American people are not politicians. We see this the same way he does. Your nevertrump thong is showing.
>>72029016
Rush needs to stop damage controlling for Cruz. 2 hours a fucking day, every day, is spent trying to make Trump supporters feel okay with the idea of being shafted and settling for Cruz.
You ever notice how he has this mocking impersonation of Trump and Trump supporters but never fucking dares to mock Cruz and Cruz's supporters in the same way? A caller earlier today nailed the "Cruz, pause, pause" impersonation yet Rush won't go anywhere fucking near it.
Rush is bending over backwards being accommodating to the Trump narrative, here, just so you know. Because he knows he has in his audience idiots like you guys.
Just say it how you want from him. You want Rush to conform to Trump's campaign narrative and pass on his lies without comment. You want another propagandist.
>>72029564
>>72031821
>>72029361
Trump > Bernie > Civil War
>>72029564
Saying that any of our Western systems are rigged and have purposely been refined by generations of slimy weasel fucks that have been ruining our democracies to line their own pockets now for longer than any of us can remember isn't something that the average man will disagree with.
>>72032899
As always, politics is a battle of memes.
Trump is one of the most gifted memetic wizards of all time. He can create memes so powerful that they turn people's strengths into their own downfall.
>>72032767
Rush is garbage.
Savage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rush
>>72029506
>that it disenfranchises more than half your voter base
Trump has nowhere near over half the voter base of the Republican party. He has 38%. 8,785,875 votes from a total of 23,184,208 cast.
>>72029016
Lel, you americans can't be that dump. Trump isn't whining, he's spinning this whole rule thing to his advantage (gop rules are shady as fuck in modern democratic nations)
Also,
>>72029506
>'if he's so good at making deals why doesn't he make the deals with these delegates, huh???' meanwhile they'll still claim that Cruz is anti-establishment.
You should realize that what's going on at a lot of these state conventions is that Cruz's own supporters, the grassroots, are taking over the room by bringing to in more warm bodies than any other campaign or state organization can put in them to see to it that the convention nominates friendly delegates to ballots beyond the first. They are overcoming the establishment or winning them over on the basis of being engaged.
However do you expect to win at anything, no less politics, without knowing the rules of the game??
>>72033587
Michael Savage has been on a fucking killing spree since at least the Baltimore riots
>>72031652
He should just defect to infowars
>>72029564
Trump never complains about a rigged process when he receives more delegates than he should as a ratio to the popular vote owing to the front-runner bonus. He has more by that mechanism than any other candidate has been able to secure by other means.
He's like an autistic child that wants to make three moves in a game and throws a fit if someone else at the table reaches for their piece.
>>72035214
Because those are places where people actually voted m8.
No one complains when the people get to vote for the candidate.
Good try though reddit.
>>72035214
>allocation by voting is a rigged process
Good job denormalizing the normal
>>72034192
Except there's an answer to his narrative clear as day that any American can understand. You need 50%+1 to win by systems that are governed by majorities.
>>72032453
>
Rush needs to stop damage controlling for Cruz. 2 hours a fucking day, every day, is spent trying to make Trump supporters feel okay with the idea of being shafted and settling for Cruz.
>we want affirmation, dammit!
Maybe it takes 2 hours out of each day to keep making simple points to folks who only want to listen to narratives rather than understand processes.
>but never fucking dares to mock Cruz and Cruz's supporters in the same way? A caller earlier today nailed the "Cruz, pause, pause" impersonation yet Rush won't go anywhere fucking near it.
He though it was hilarious and asked the guy to repeat his joke, giving him a full minute to make it.
Just admit you want another lying propandist for the circlejerk like this guy (>>72033587) and it'll make you feel better.
>>72035457
Yeah, no.Try again or suffer humiliating defeat:
>>72032899
https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/723882303982821376?lang=bg
>>72035307
>>72035338
>No one complains when the people get to vote for the candidate.
>Good job denormalizing the normal
Receives 40% of the vote, gets 100% of the delegates? But that part of the game works for you, so in spite of the fact that that's the rules, that's part of that non-linear system you bitch and moan about when another candidate secures a delegate, nobody sees you (or Trump) whining about it.
>Because those are places where people actually voted
They've voted everywhere, by what rules apply for particular states as is normal (to reference the other anon's disingenuous concern) for our republican system of individual states.
>>72036309
People actually voted.
Who knew someone would actually be telling the truth on plebbit.
>>72036477
>People actually voted.
They have voted to give Trump 38% of their support (>>72033673). For that you expect to have 50%+1 of the delegates (>>72035457), and any less by you is a cheat.
I though you had this voting shit down, m8.
>>72033108
Pretty much this.
>>72029016
LYIN TED HOLDS HIS BIBLE HIGH
>>72038056
>>People actually voted.
>They have voted to give Trump 38% of their support
Yep.Bottom line is they voted.Bottom line is voters don't appreciate their votes being denied
>>72036062
I know you are retarded rat but seriously?
>>72038303
>Yep.Bottom line is they voted.Bottom line is voters don't appreciate their votes being denied
So too did those 62% of voters who had such an impression of Trump that they'd rather have had someone else be president.
>having feelings of entitlement when you can't win people over to your candidacy
>>72039100
>So too did those 62% of voters who had such an impression of Trump that they'd rather have had someone else be president
Read again retard:
>>72036062
>>72032899
Even the people who have not voted for Trump would prefer him to the alternative.That's why his numbers have been increasing.
>>72035912
No, he just needs 2 hours a day to try and prevent a mass exodus from the party if Cruz gets the nomination. It terrifies Rush because ever since Reagan, he's prattled on about how TRUE CONSERVATIVE VALUES™ would win landslide victories if only the people had a conservative choice. Now that they do, they're going for a brash businessman instead. If True Blue Conservative Cruz becomes the nominee and gets pounded in the general election due to mass Republican disaffection, Rush's 30 year narrative falls flat on its fucking face. He'll probably go full bitch mode complaining about Trump ruining America's last chance.
>He though it was hilarious and asked the guy to repeat his joke, giving him a full minute to make it.
Rush has been doing this shtick for weeks now. This isn't some one off event. He's in the tank for Cruz and does nothing to rock the Cruz boat. Even after Cruz has done the exact same shit Trump has, Rush utters not a damn peep so he can shelter Cruz.
>>72029016
Just because the rules are corrupt as well, doesn't make what Ted Cruz is doing even moderately acceptable. He's basically trying to steal the nomination away from the voters, and then force them to vote for him in the general because the Ameridiot FPTP system is garbage and strips the common man of his say in politics.
All you shill assholes bitching about Trump getting all the delegates in Florida are ignoring that they set it up like that so Trump wouldn't get any after losing to JEB or Rubio. It backfired massively on them and I'm still smiling about it. Instant karma establishment assholes.
>>72040958
>He's basically trying to steal the nomination away from the voters,
Cruz is doing no such thing, with the understanding that the nomination is not anyone's to steal.
>>72029361
>slavery was legal
IT'S JUST THE RULES GAIS
>>72040450
>No, he just needs 2 hours a day to try and prevent a mass exodus from the party if Cruz gets the nomination
What does that say about all those other talk show hosts who've positioned themselves to set conditions for a walkout should their chosen candidate not come out with the nomination?
>>72038283
HE PUTS IT DOWN
>>72041758
Rules and laws are two different things, but yeah. That's why when there are laws or rules people don't like, it's incumbent upon them to change the rules or laws.
Only, if you're a people governed by rules and laws, you do that when there's opportunity to do so under no pressure of demagoguery, not midstream to make the rules favorable to one particular individual for short-term gain.
Otherwise, you're Obama.
>>72041567
Not to mention Winner Take All is literally how the general election works. Complaining about how unfair a primary system is when it emulates the GE system is a pretty hard sell.
>>72041958
What about them? We're talking about Rush. The only host I've heard talking about walkouts is Hannity in response to GOPe calls for a consensus candidate like Ryan.
>>72029016
>Cruz isn't cheating. He's following the rules.
Strawman argument.
No one is saying Cruz is cheating. People don't like the rules and Cruz is violating the spirit of his campaign which was to run against this kind of shit.
>>72042332
The rules were changed midstream and under pressure a few times so far in response to Trump starting in August with Colorado.
>>72041704
You need to work on your reading comprehension, I said 'steal the nomination away from the voters' meaning that they would take the nomination away from the candidate who has the most voter confidence. I would consider that stealing, because in a proper democracy, the voters are supposed to be able to decide their candidates.
>inb4 the GOP is a private org and doesn't have to act democratically
But in practice, in a nation where there's only two real parties, the party has a duty to bow to the will of the voters. Any arguments to the contrary are coming from an undemocratic position. It doesn't surprise me that Cruz supporters hate democracy, tbqh.
>>72042422
>No one is saying Cruz is cheating
Trump does all the time, implicitly when he calls him a liar all the time, as do his surrogates and many of his followers.
>People don't like the rules and Cruz is violating the spirit of his campaign which was to run against this kind of shit.
The spirit of the campaign is to have the party chose a nominee that can beat the Democrat in November and obtain political power. Cruz is doing just that.
>People don't like the rules
Do they like the rules only when Trump gets an edge by them? As when he received more delegates than he should as a ratio of the popular vote? Because "THE PEOPLE" aren't complaining about that rule.
>>72042647
The party in Colorado was reacting to forces other than Trump. They were responding to a ruling by the national party that they should have their straw poll be other than a meaningless beauty contest. The straw poll in previous cycles did not effect the binding of delegates, and that's the way they wanted to keep it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Colorado,_2012#Conventions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Republican_caucuses,_2008
>>72032767
He agrees with me
>champion of the truth
He disagrees with me
>propagandist
We all know thats the truth
>>72033587
Savage is just an intellectual and he admits that regularly. Anyone who knows how the primaries work knew this was coming and yet Savage still had the gall to be upset by it because 'no voting'.
Well no shit.
>>72043399
>I said 'steal the nomination away from the voters' meaning that they would take the nomination away from the candidate who has the most voter confidence.
Trump has 38% of the votes. It's a 50%+ system.
>in a proper democracy, the voters are supposed to be able to decide their candidates.
We do not live in a direct democracy, and you should be extraordinarily thankful that's the case. We live by a representative system.
>But in practice, in a nation where there's only two real parties, the party has a duty to bow to the will of the voters.
The will of the voters, going by your premise, is that 62% of them don't want Trump.
>Any arguments to the contrary are coming from an undemocratic position
Indeed.
>>72044043
>The will of the voters, going by your premise, is that 62% of them don't want Trump.
Nope.Try again:
>Even the people who have not voted for Trump would prefer him to the alternative.That's why his numbers have been increasing.
>>72039527
>>72043697
There are a whole lot of Cruz-only talk show hosts with no sympathy to Trump or much effort to appeal to his voters, and Rush isn't one.
>>72044043
If there is no 50% winner then it just means the GOP does not constitute a coherent enough coalition to be a party, and must choose a different platform around a set of voters that can agree with each other to pick a candidate axcording to the will of those voters
Disenfranchisement of voters loses you those voters
>>72042421
>Not to mention Winner Take All is literally how the general election works. Complaining about how unfair a primary system is when it emulates the GE system is a pretty hard sell.
>the rules that worked to our advantage are good
>the rules that didn't work to our advantage suck
There is the point that in general elections, there are typically only two candidates to pick from, whereas in a primary there may be as many as 17. Perhaps that's why the rules are different in primiaries and not uniform across the states.
>The only host I've heard talking about walkouts is Hannity in response to GOPe calls for a consensus candidate like Ryan.
That would make people feel good about themselves, but it certainly wouldn't serve to beat Hillary. So it's probably better to keep it on the back burner.
Yet it would be political suicide for the establishment to push that over Trump or Cruz, though (especially with Cruz taking so many of them at state conventions) and that's to what a walkout would be confirming.
>>72044699
>If there is no 50% winner then it just means the GOP does not constitute a coherent enough coalition to be a party
Don't be so histrionic about things. There's been plenty of contested conventions without a candidate coming in with a clear majority. What it would have implied was that there was an extremely large field of candidates splitting the vote, which in fact was the case.
>and must choose a different platform around a set of voters that can agree with each other to pick a candidate axcording to the will of those voters
But again, you have the implication in your response that Trump's voters reflect the will of the voters, when he had not secured more than 38% of them. It might be important to consider those 62% of the voters at some point.
That point was months ago, when Trump was relishing the image of taking over the Republican party and being an insulting asshole to all the candidates.
How do you suppose this works in the long run? The supporters of all those defeated candidates, should any of them have grassroots support (a bunch of them do), are the ones who the candidate will have to rely upon to staff your efforts across the 50 states. Knock on doors, make phone calls, be poll watchers at tens of thousands of precincts to make sure the Democrats don't just outright stuff boxes full of fake ballots.
>>72044845
>the rules that worked to our advantage are good
>the rules that didn't work to our advantage suck
You're a gold medalist in mental gymnastics, aren't you? That was an impressive routine.
>>72045470
>But again, you have the implication in your response that Trump's voters reflect the will of the voters, when he had not secured more than 38% of them. It might be important to consider those 62% of the voters at some point.
>62% Say Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
>62% Say Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
>62% Say Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
The party has a duty to keep itself on track
Trump is a leftist and should rightfully be excluded
Start your own party that votes leftist/authoritarian on everything but immigration
>>72045621
My main point was in sentence to follow.
You made the assertion, because Trump has benefited from more WTA, perhaps (as the anon you were talking to was talking of Florida), that the states should emulate the general in the primary process across the nation. That would have certain affects. Politicians would ignore small states. Candidates with large initial support would spend their resources in large state difficult for underdog candidates to organize in order to swamp the system. Is this the result you were after?
>>72029506
>disenfranchises
>political primaries
So let's assume that most of the voters were to pick Karl Marx
The party shouldn't step in and say no?
This is literally the foundation for representation and not direct democracy
>>72045978
> a poll is the party
You stupid niggers have no clue how representative democracy works
>>72045621
>>72046342
Or here's another one. Say 17 equally supported candidates in terms of funding, and roughly equal support in terms of polling, have no reason to leave the race on the premise that they can eek out a few extra wins than the other guys?
With 17 equal candidates, your entirely WTA primary system is giving singular apportionment of delegates to a guy who can get just slightly more than 5.9% of the popular vote.
>>72045978
>polling in place of votes
>>72047308
Cool damage control.But as i already said, Trump's numbers have been increasing exactly for that reason.
>>72046342
>You made the assertion
I did not, that's happening inside your head.
What I said, was that arguing against WTA rules is a hard sell because it simply appropriates the GE rules (which plenty of Americans know and understand because we see it unfold every 4 years) and applies them to the primary.
In other words, it's easier to get voters to agree to easy to understand WTA rules than cabalistic state conventions where father knows best.
>>72047124
>your entirely WTA primary system
There you go again.
>>72044699
>it's not popular therefore it's not just
Argumentum ad populum
So the party should just bend to issues that will get them the most votes?
So the retarded garbage that is supporting open borders is justified?
THINK faggot
>>72029016
Rush isn't nearly as pitiful as Mark Levin. Fucker sounds like he's always ready to cry.
>>72047608
>we should decide elections based on trends
Based Retard
Not to mention, as far as trends are concerned, trumps VOTE lead both in percentage and total are not trending anywhere friend
>>72029016
>Literally called the Republican party
>Surprised it does not believe in direct democracy
Shaking my head senpai.
>>72033108
More like
Revolution > Military coup > civil war > US democratic process
>>72047703
>voters don't understand
As if we base our forms of governance on what the average retard finds intuitive
As if said retardation doesn't reinforce the notion of representative decision making
If any of you left this echo chamber for literally 5 minutes you would know that Rush was at one point praising Trump.
When Trump does well, he calls it out, when he fucks up he calls it out too. He said Cruz is the more conservative candidate, that is fact not opinion.
He doesn't endorse candidates for a reason, because faggots like you can't handle the bantz when it goes against precious trump. Literally worse than SJWs
>>72048140
This, Rush has been doing his best to avoid siding with either candidate. He criticises Cruz at times as well, for instance when Cruz was on Hannity and kept trying to dodge a question.
>>72046404
Coincidentally, that's pretty much what has happened for Trump to still be in the front-runner position. While other candidates were positioning themselves to win Republican primary voters, far longer than their electoral results should have encouraged them to continue doing so, Trump has had a slight boost from voters outside the traditional Republican coalition to give him his margin of victories in a number of states, which have been magnified by the winner-take-most front-runner bonuses. Quite literally, a non-Republican has all this time been gaming the party system to claim its nomination, while attack it as rigged and de-legitimizing in the minds of his backers every step those opposed to him take, whether that be victory at the polls (Cruz in Iowa) or ability to organize better than him (Cruz in caucus states).
>>72048086
>He thinks the Legion of gibsmebennies would be competent enough to not fuck everything up
>said gibsmebennies have been replaced by obama yes men
>>72047906
>Based Retard
Thank you delusional faglord
>Not to mention, as far as trends are concerned, trumps VOTE lead both in percentage and total are not trending anywhere friend
Phahahahah
He is looking to finally break 50s in states which aren't his home, tomorrow.He's increased nationally while his rivals have fallen but stay delusional retard.
>One term senator
>Foreign born
>Wall Street funded
>Harvard lawyer
>Records sealed
>No experience outside of politicking
>Ugly tranny wife
Is there any difference at all between Rafael and Barack?
>>72048302
Well I wasn't going to assert that, but the problem is that such a thing is possible
The rules aren't there for no reason
>inb4 they're there so the oppressive rulers can control
>>72048456
Cruz actually had a successful law career demonstrating that he could apply things outside of an intellectual bubble. Obama just edited a law review and circlejerked with other intellectuals.
>>72034274
>They are overcoming the establishment
Cruz is the establishment. No need to win them over, when you're one of them.
>>72048674
>cruz is the establishment
nice maymay
>>72048411
>delusional faggot
So you concede that's trends are irrelevant and your point was worthless
>vote percentages
As if that's how the nomination is decided and not delegates
Your premise is still as fucking stupid as you are
>>72048456
>I don't know anything outside of memes: the post
>>72048674
>Cruz is the establishment
This is a terrible meme. Just last week Peter King said if Cruz gets the nomination he is taking cyanide and the Kochs have said Hillary would be preferable to Cruz.
>>72048466
Just a reiteration of what others have observed. To be sure, it would have been impossible for Trump to game the system had the establishment not been trying to do it themselves, keeping splitters funded and encouraged past the time when they ought to have seen the writing on the wall and got out to save everyone the embarrassment.
>>72048674
>cruz is the establishment
>that moment where you're so deep in memes you don't know what's real anymore
First election for you lad?
>>72048302
>Trump has had a slight boost from voters outside the traditional Republican coalition to give him his margin of victories in a number of states
Ah, the old "Trump voters aren't real Republicans" routine. If you only want the Republican party to include Christian fundamentalists and globalists, you'll only win elections that Republicans are gerrymandered into.
>which have been magnified by the winner-take-most front-runner bonuses.
Now you complain about the rules?
Rush didn't go that far.
He didn't necessarily endorse the Cruz's modus operandi (though I only heard the first hour or so).
Nor did he dis the Donald.
I sort of got the impression that he didn't much like Cruz's legalizing the election process in an era when no one trusts people who do that kind of thing.
>>72048265
>>72048733
>So you concede that's trends are irrelevant and your point was worthless
Are you begging to be bullied?Im not conceding your retarded points they just aren't worth anything but mocking.
>As if that's how the nomination is decided and not delegates
No one cares reatrd.The voters certainly dont and prefer the guy with the most votes.You can keep crying about it on /pol/ and i will continue to mock your braindead retardation?Deal?
>>72029016
>it's in the rules so that means it can't be wrong
>>72048098
Don't care how informed the average voter is. Not my problem, not my point.
>>72048140
>>72048301
When Cruz was parroting the leftist media on attacking Trump over David Duke, leftist violence at Trump rallies, and Trump's "War on Women" Rush didn't criticize Cruz like he did Trump when Trump started on the birther thing. Rush is nothing but double standards this cycle.
>>72049269
>he still can't give a reason why trends are of significant importance
>n-no it's just stupid
>Noone cares
Lol
It's like talking with a child that only wants to hear affirmation
>>72029016
Don't worry guys! It's not like your vote mattered anyway! It's the roolz!
>>72047703
>Ok, I get what point your trying to make here
This is why there's a whole class of people that don't pay attention to politics until the general election, for when after the parties have their nominees by whatever confusing processes they do things, and make their choices between the two resultants.
IOW, there's not going to be so much of an outrage in the general electorate should Cruz be the nominee as Trump's supporters believe.
>>72029016
the game is rigged, we should do what all banana republics do, DESTROY THE GOVERNMENT. KILL THE RICH
START WITH THE FAT PILL POPPER IN OPS PIC
>>72049505
It literally was your point
>>72049963
And you're literally retarded.
>>72049035
>If you only want the Republican party to include Christian fundamentalists and globalists
I'm actually the one in this whole thing that's willing to having beside me members of a coalition with views I don't necessarily hold myself. This is how Republicans win, which doesn't seem to be a popular view with many Trump supporters, who want to see every other wing of the party crushed and driven out.
>>72029016
No one likes a rules lawyer. Not even your wife's lover.
>>72049543
>he still can't give a reason why trends are of significant importance
Read through the conversations properly, retard.
>n-no it's just stupid
>Noone cares
>Lol
>It's like talking with a child that only wants to hear affirmation
Same.
>>72029016
I listened to it half an hour on my lunch break and this is what he did the whole fucking time. His phones must have been blowing up. He took one call from some cuck talking about how this was a good thing, but I bet he had to screen hard to get that.
Rush is just mad he played loose with Trump to begin with and Trump got bigger than Rush.
>>72050228
>This is how Republicans win, which doesn't seem to be a popular view with many Trump supporters, who want to see every other wing of the party crushed and driven out.
Now how can you say that when even Rush admits Trump's coalition is the diverse cross-section of the country the Republicans have been searching for since Reagan?
>>72049035
>>which have been magnified by the winner-take-most front-runner bonuses.
>Now you complain about the rules?
Only as a means to point out the hypocrisy of those who here are complaining about the rules being rigged to keep Trump from being the nominee. Trump has in fact benefited greatly by the existing rules, for his purposes. He simply want all of his supporters to remain in ignorance of the fact, hating the game and the players.
There's your unifier.
There's your general election blowout loss to Hillary.
>>72050518
This is this, and that is that.
>>72050564
>Only as a means to point out the hypocrisy of those who here are complaining about the rules being rigged to keep Trump from being the nominee. Trump has in fact benefited greatly by the existing rules, for his purposes. He simply want all of his supporters to remain in ignorance of the fact, hating the game and the players.
No, you fucking retard.Trump voters and republicans in general feel betrayed by the establishment (above 50 %) and don't care for it's rules.
You can benefit from something you hate but that doesn't mean you still won't hate it.
>>72029016
Just because the rules have been around doesn't make them fair. That's like saying Jim Crow laws were fair because niggas had had decades to figure out how to live with the rules. The election system is rigged towards GOP establishment candidates and Trump had been fighting a up hill battle the whole way.
>>72048869
Peter King is a RINO, he's part of the left wing of the republican party. Literally the only reason he's a republican is MUH MILITARY, everything else he agrees with the democrats on.
>>72029016
Rush is so wrong on this issue. I mean, he's technically correct, but the entire point of Trump's rise is that people are TIRED of the GOP establishment picking candidates and not listening to the people, which is EXACTLY what they're doing with Cruz. And Cruz is really a disappointment because he claimed he was an outsider, but now he's playing the inside game.
Yes. But when is the last time Somone actually tried to derail the American voters??? This is actually not "the way it has always been"..... What is going on is abnormal and although rules are rules, these are rules that subvert the will of the American voters. These rules are meant to silence the power of Americans who are speaking loud and clear. In light of that you can sit the fuck down...
>>72051023
He seems to want a strong presence in the middle east.
Is he Jewish?
>>72051203
No, he's a catholic.
It was okay when Ron Paul did it. Now we gotta vilify Cruz for playing the game?
>tfw people on /pol/ think Rush is a Cruz shill when he's said positive things about both Trump and Cruz.
>>72051187
This is certainly not the first election that's been rigged. This has been going on since at least 2000. It's not only the presidency, the governors and senators house seats etc. are also rigged.
>>72051886
Levin has said positive things about Trump.
Savage has said positive things about Cruz.
Doesn't make either of them not shills for their respective candidate choice.
>>72050890
>Trump voters and republicans in general feel betrayed by the establishment (above 50 %)
>You can benefit from something you hate but that doesn't mean you still won't hate it.
Thus Cruz and his support.
>>72051187
>Yes. But when is the last time Somone actually tried to derail the American voters???
Trump has gained the support of 38% of the voters. We've always operated under a system that requires 50%+1 of representative power. By your posit, the "someone" trying to derail the American (republican primary) voters is Trump attempting to make his 38% support into an entitlement to the nomination over the will of 62% of the rest of the voters.
>>72043609
It's almost as if the people want to choose whom they can vote for to lead them. What a shocking concept in a democratic country.
>>72051978
>This is certainly not the first election that's been rigged. This has been going on since at least 2000
Oh, look. The Democratic stolen election narrative, with the implication that Al Gore won Florida.
Al Gore lost Florida, has never won it in subsequent recounts, and was trying to hand pick counties for recounts controlled by Democratic electoral boards so that he could question and throw out as many Republican votes as needed to have the state swing his way.
>>72052504
>Thus Cruz and his support.
Nah that's not the reason for Ratto's support.His main base is the religious nutters.He also benefits greatly from #NeverTrumpers.As seen in Wisconsin exit polls, even people who favor amnestry (something Ratto is supposed to be deeply against) vote for him.
>Trump attempting to make his 38% support into an entitlement to the nomination over the will of 62% of the rest of the voters.
The will of the voters is :
>>72045978
>Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
>Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
>Republican with Most Votes Should Be Nominee
>Laugh at Trump for not k owing how to play the game
>Continue to get played by Trump
>GOP shills still not understanding that the game is now playing them
Trump is successfully making any and all moves by the GOP to block him look completely and utterly corrupt. And their best response is "lol dems da rulz". But yeah, Trump is the dummy. Sure.
>>72053172
>The will of the voters is :
The will of the voters have always in systems which follow democratic principles are votes, not opinion polls.
>>72053637
Your omniscient, omnipotent candidate is the weakest front-runner in the lifetimes of any anon currently posting on /pol/ and has made himself the most unliked politician in America, when polling ahead of the general election that shows him getting crushed by his opponent.
>>72053965
He's not *my* candidate, I'm just pointing out how far the GOP is up its own ass.
My only interest in Trump is watching him help the GOP destroy itself. He hands them the noose and they just keep pulling tighter.
>>72029016
Lol your candidate is literally finished. What are you doing here
Trumptards are literally getting BTFO'd by a single Redditor. Fucking fags.
>>72031821
Your average American isn't running to be President. Trump is so uninformed about the process that it's a little pathetic.
>>72048140
Rush is a senile lunatic. Like as ridiculous as Alex jones except he drops a fraction of the redpill.
His appearance is also disgusting at best, and I would give my life savings to cut that ridiculous rat tail haircut he has.
>>72029016
>It's not cheating if the cheater makes the rules
>>72032453
You need to stop listening to Rush. He's a fucking druggie, and therefore, a degenerate.
>>72053965
>Your omniscient, omnipotent candidate is the weakest front-runner in the lifetimes of any anon currently posting on /pol/
With higher amount of votes than Romney and others before him.
You can keep downplaying him all you like but after moving the goalposts so much, Anti-Trumpers don't have any credibility.Need i remind you that Trump was supposed to:
> implode after the latest outrageous thing he said
>Leave by September/October/November/December
>Peak at 20%
>Pick at 30%
>Not actually win a state
>Crush and burn as soon as the field cleared
> and has made himself the most unliked politician in America,
Ratto is right behind him:
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/ted-cruz-favorable-rating
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/donald-trump-favorable-rating
>>72054319
Indistinguishable. You're aware of this, I'm sure.
>>72054999
Do people just forget all the independents and registered democrats and new voters he's exciting and pulling to the republican side?
>>72055388
We don't want them in our party. Only neocons are allowed to vote for the GOP!
