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Jojo Edition

>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Favorite guitars?
>Favorite guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music

Beginner information and FAQ:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/wiki/index

Learn guitar:
http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

>Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

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>Advancing Guitarist - Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd

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lets go motherfrickers
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>>66311681
ERG/B are good !
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classic vibe strats any good?
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anyone have any testimonials of going from not being able to play anything at all to "knowing?"

i wanna learn but i feel like i'm incompetent
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>>66311708
yes, I love those guitars. Just don't buy it at guitar center
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>>66311681
>motherfrickers
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>>66311760
homie im a broke-ass touring musician im buying it where it's cheapest
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>>66311739
In my experience, you have to enjoy playing to get good. The more you practice, the better you become, and, consequently the more you enjoy playing.

That said, the single most important thing for any guitarist who's starting out, besides tone, is getting an instrument that is extremely playable that is set up to your preferences. Don't cheap out on a set up from a reputable luthier or tech. You won't regret having one.

Also, some people will say it doesn't matter. But get a guitar and rig that you enjoy hearing. Otherwise, just have fun. Don't put any unrealistic expectations on yourself. Eventually, if you play enough it will all come naturally.
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>>66311739
when i can't get anything going i just noise jam until i get something interesting
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>>66311739
I'm not going to write a novel on that but it's what most guitarists did, some started with some theory knowledge from other instruments (Shawn Lane learned guitar in about six months because he was already good at piano)
What you need is to be curious, dedicated, and able to see your own mistakes. The last one is critical, some people rely too much on their strong points and end up repeating themselves
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>he thinks playing guitar is impressive
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>>66311846
>'touring musician'
>has never played a squier

Something's not adding up here.
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>>66311897
Definitely this; guitar is actually pretty easy if you have a decent understanding of theory and intervals. It doesn't get challenging until you start learning barre chords, and even then you just need some patience and persistence.
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>>66311923
He might have had started on an Epi/First Act/GIO, Squier isn't the only cheap brand.
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>Jojo Edition

NANI?
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post tone machines
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>>66311739
Learned from a book I checked out of the library like 15 years ago from not knowing a damn thing about guitar/music at all. You just have to realize that going from learning to playing takes time and you're going to fuck up a lot along the way. EVERY single musician was incompetent at first, unless you're one of those retarded savants.

For a good confidence boost, find a band/artist you like who's guitar tracks are super simple so that you can play along with. I played along with a lot of Tom Petty for chords and Led Zeppelin for riffs. Both not extremely complicated but are very powerful in their songs.

Also, when you start getting the hang of it, my suggestion is find a means of recording your playing and listening to it played back. I learned this way late in life but made huge difference in my own critique. All the little technical mistakes you might be making you won't notice as your playing until you listen back to it. The sooner you fix those little things, the less time they'll be bad habits that are hard to break
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>>66312046
no you weab
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>noticed yesterday that I've actually had terrible bass technique for the last 5 years
>spend an hour today playing scales at 10 BPM making sure to keep my wrist straight, fingers curled, etc.

feels good man
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what's the best 70-100w guitar amp I can get for less than $350?
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>>66312638
>fingers curled
It's a fucking bass you retard
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>>66312846
Why the hell do you need a 70 watt guitar amp? Buy a fucking PA you imbecile.
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>>66312958
why are you so hostile you autist?
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>>66312958
>
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>>66311908
>he thinks shitposting every thread is impressive
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>>66312233
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>>66312923

Wut? Just because it's a bass doesn't mean that my pinky doesn't have a bad habit of flying up into the air whenever I take it off the fretboard.
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recommend me an amp to record on since apparently i can't just buy an amp head and plug it into my interface
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>>66313651
learn to use plugins you retard we've gone over this in the last thread
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>>66313677
idk what plugins are
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>>66313680
here let me introduce you to a wonderful tool
>http://google.com/
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>>66313704
no i don't want to use a virtual instrument, if i wanted to use my computer to make music i'd be on /prod/. i'm trying to get away from using my interface, not rely on it even further
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>>66311578
Can someone redpill me on analog/boutique pedals? Also interested in flanger recs
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>>66313743
good luck recording anything without an interface then
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>>66313743
So if you had a proper amp, how would you record it with a mic AND without an interface?
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What is the best headless guitar? And what are the benefits to one?
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>>66313806
Here is gearspammer's youtube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3y0oaUgnKEOzaZoipTD6HA
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>>66313472
I think he means your general fretting hand technique, as not curling your fingers as much as you would on the guitar. This way you can mute strings not being played so they don't vibrate, but you probably knew that already.
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>>66313851
i'd put my mic into my interface. don't try to twist my words, i mean that i want to sound the same way live that i do after recording on my interface (which sounds nothing like what i sound on my current amp at all)
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>>66313952
Then go to your music store with your guitar (and pedals) try different heads+cabs and combos. My favorite amp is most likely not your favorite amp.
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>>66311908
people who play instruments just for others shouldnt invest in an instrument anyways
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>>66313993
do the cabinets have a big impact on the sound as well? as much as the head?
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>>66313900
thanks man!
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>>66313952
In that case, you need the amp that sounds best to yours ears. Time to go to the store and do some testing.
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Thinking about selling my Telecaster. The tone just doesn't work for the band I'm in. :(
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>>66314048
>he fell for the tele meme
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>>66314025
I would roughly say that heads are like 70% and cabs 30%
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>>66314059
Seriously. I love the way it looks, but it's just not worth it.
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>>66314041
>>66314060
alright cheers
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>>66314059
More like
>he can't twist a few knobs
>he can't mod his guitar to suit his needs
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>>66314059
telecaster!!! AAaaaAAHHHhhhHHHHHHH!!!!
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>>66313872
For retrofuturistic 80s coolness. I've heard good things about Steinberger, pic related.
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>>66314116
I've already done enough modding on my strat.
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As a guitarist how the fuck do you find/start a band when there are ten guitarists for every bassist and drummer?
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>>66314203
entice them with pizza and anime
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>>66314203
You get better than every other guitarist.
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>>66314203
>not knowing more than 1 instrument

pleb
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>>66314203
Be one of the better guitarists. Be good at making music. There are a bunch of guitarists, but there really aren't very many good ones
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>>66314019
>responding to the most obvious bait
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>>66313872
They're light and easy to travel with.
>>66314128
Also available in Gibson™ flavor
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>>66314048
git gud
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>>66314277
Don't really care that it's bait, just wanted to chip in about people who just want to play to impress
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>>66314487
>humbuckers on a tele
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>>66314541
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>>66311681
Shut the heck up you dang fricker
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> tfw save enough for the amp you wanted
> someone else bought it before you
Fuck this shit bros, it shat over my weekend. Might take a while to find a decent deal and all seller I have contacted have been cunts or haven't replied back.
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>>66314128
>>66314288
Thing is I don't want some ugly square thing I want something that is comfortable to play sitting down, not something I can't even play sitting down
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>>66314554
Don't worry, I can turn it off. I can see how you would make that mistake though.
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>>66314608
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>>66314653
Why are you even interested in buying a headless then?
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>>66314852
Weight reduction and looks
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>>66314948
>looks
Your goal is to look stupid?
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i have trouble selling my guitar,
can you tell me why that may be

its a sunburst Fender AM Vintage 59 with a maple neck

1 year old with case and all that came with it

ive listed it everywhere and had only 2-3 guys show interest

the new price is 2000$

i listed it for 1400€ and then dropped to 1100
but again no interest

highest offer i got was 900€
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>>66314991
yea headless guitars look really dumb
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>>66315156
same here m8, I'm trying to sell my Les Paul for $600 and I've only got a couple of lowballers
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>>66315156
I'm looking at a sonic blue for sale at 1600€ so I wouldn't drop it too low if I were you (unless you're in a hurry to sell). I think Fender shells out so many different strats that they end up being harder to sell on the used market. Plus it's harder to gauge the value of a particular model.
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THIS is a pretty guitar
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>>66315472
>sonic blue
if i cant sell mine for 1100€ you should be able to get yours for 1600€ easily
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>>66314048
>what are pedals
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>>66314059
if tele is a meme what is your obsession with ugly trash jazzmasters and mustangs
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>>66312958
anon have you ever played a real show
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>>66314048
the bigger issue is prolly the vox
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>>66314203
be good at writing music and form the band around yourself.


a guitarist who doesn't write is worthless
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Post some covers and have /gg/ rate them/give some tips.

I'll start. Simple but nice sounding song. I played it a tad fast I think but its been forever since I listened to the actual song so fuck it.

https://clyp.it/4xmsxusq
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So, I didn't end up buying this. I thought it had a truss rod, but it does not. The whole "steel reinforced neck" thing threw me. I don't really want to deal with a non-adjustable neck. Apart from the neck being bowed like crazy, the guitar was in great shape. Hopefully someone with more skills than me will get it. When I told the seller I wasn't interested because of the lack of truss rod, she offered to sell it for just $50. I was pretty damn tempted.
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>>66316906
Played well. Nothing really jumps out that sounded off or wrong. Good job.

I'm quite a bit louder than the original here but it's quad tracked. Ended up sounding a bit cleaner than I'd have liked.

https://clyp.it/m2cbmtk3
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>>66317167
what band is this
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>>66317299
Cult of Luna
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEUMUKaPulk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_KZ0nGSJUs
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>>66316510
That's also been a concern of mine. I've got a strat I put hot rails in and I get a pretty good tone for my band out of it.
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>>66316906
Why so many wires?
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What is the best guitar forum and why is it TDPRI?
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>>66317505
I really don't know where to start answering this question.
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>>66317167
>>66317167
Thanks man. Blackbird is super fucking simple to play, just been playing it a lot lately because I've been on an acoustic kick for the past few months. It's a nice break from all of the metal and shit I've been playing as a fill in guitarist for a local band while their lead is in rehab kek.

Your shit sounded breddy gud. I'm not too familiar with the song but it sounds pretty sick.
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>>66317581
What? It just seems like an excessive amount of wires for a preamp.
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>>66317568
Bitch please.
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>>66316906
Holy shit you suck

[fake spoiler] not really, I wish I actually knew how to play ;_; [/fake spoiler]

I've been trying to learn for about two years now and can barely pluck out simple shit like back in black. Maybe I'm just not meant for it?
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>>66317846
Just practice more and take lessons from a professional if you need to.
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>>66317846
Count in hours, not years. Anyways just try to have fun and you'll end up practicing more.
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>>66317161
They do have truss rods, they're just not adjustable.

Should have bought it for $50, could be a good slide guitar if you're into old blues at all.
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>>66316906
https://clyp.it/tdv25idl
The Black Dahlia Murder, solo at 2:58
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>>66318276
Sounds pretty good
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>>66316906
>https://clyp.it/4xmsxusq
Overall pretty solid, but the fingerpicking pattern is a bit off from the original

>>66317167
I think going easy on the gain knob suits that song, the tone's super thick. Is that the Axe-fx or a real amp?
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Does anybody here have any experiences with the Ibanez S series? I'm strongly considering it to be my next guitar, upgrading from my GIO. Is there any difference between the S521 and the S421, apart from the inlays and the bridge(how's the Gibraltar bridge anyway?)?

My other option would be a Standard or Deluxe Squier (the hot rails is cheap in my local store), other makes like Jackson are generally too expensive, but I'm welcoming suggestions. No floating tremolos tho thanks.
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>>66315156
heeeeeeeeeeeelp pls
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im literally falling for the meme
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>>66318569


but much better than a squier imo
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>>66318549
Heh, I just went back and listened to it again for the first time in like 10 fucking years. You're right, it is just slightly off.
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>>66318679
Same thing happened to me, turns out I also pick it slightly differently. Doesn't really matter too much as long as you get the main idea across
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>>66318569
ibañez 2 thin
no like
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>>66318276
Sounds solid, just make yourself a little louder in the mix next time.

Solo is played really well, really tidy.

>>66318549
>I think going easy on the gain knob suits that song, the tone's super thick.
Yeah I didn't use any boost and had the gain on about three, just layered up.

>Is that the Axe-fx or a real amp?
AxeFX direct out (USB). You can usually pick it in my raw clips, but it's pretty hard to spot in a mix.

>>66318569
From memory the S521 essentially replaced the S421. I think the only thing that changed was the bridge and the pickups but S series aren't super familiar to me.

Do have to ask though, why not an S540? MIJ, better neck, better pickups. Has a LoPro Edge but they're pretty simple to block, just a small piece of wood on each side of the block.
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>>66318671
I think you missed some text before the but.

But yeah, the only thing the Squiers have going for them is the looks, I love the Strat shape and headstock. The Ibanez has hard tail, 24 frets, beautiful body design.
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>>66318810
a squier can never be a real strat
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>>66318810
if a squier is a strat, then those china iphone knockoffs are real iphones as well
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>>66318569
What about this one? It's one the same price range.

>>66318769
That S540 is a bit too pricey for me right now, one day I'll have a high end MIJ guitar. What do you mean by better neck? The pups will be eventually replaced anyways.

>>66318876
>>66318898
I am only talking about looks.
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>>66318703
Yeah, kinda just put your own flair on it. It's undoubtedly blackbird so who gives a fuck. I just played it back with a live version and I'm hitting all the key notes at the same time as Paul so I ain't even gonna fix it kek.

Also fug I forgot how fun it can be to just strum.

https://clyp.it/jxumc4ej
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>>66318989
nice I love the reverse headstocks

what is your budget?
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>>66318989
>That S540 is a bit too pricey for me right now
It shouldn't cost much more than an S421/S521. They're twenty year old guitars now.

>What about this one? It's one the same price range.
That's an RGR321 right? I'd probably save the extra and find an RG550 or RG560.

>What do you mean by better neck?
S540, RG550 and RG560 had one piece Wizard I necks. Paper thin, sort of the epitome of Ibanez-style necks. They have a tendency to flex a bit but it's pretty easy to check for when buying.
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>>66316906
https://clyp.it/rjx1h4nq
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>>66319131
Not familiar with the song but it sounds damn nice. You have two tracks going on that or just one?
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>>66319178
Thanks m8, it's just one track, I recorded it using my phone
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>>66319210
Sheet music or tab? I wanna learn this shit.
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>>66319060
Pricing here is the crazy all-over-the-place shit:

The Deluxe and Standard Squiers are more expensive than the S521 ($399) and the Jackson Dinky JS11 (which I think is almost an entry-level guitar) is around the same price.

It's almost a miracle that I'm finding these S series with such nice price tags here.

>>66319112
Are they thinner than the S521 neck? I'm already comfortable playing my GIO neck, so the new guitar doesn't need to be so thin.

Are multiple-piece necks much worse?
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>>66319263
https://my.mixtape.moe/prqztl.pdf

Enjoy f᠎am
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>>66316906
that plywood martin sounds fantastic. i always thought you were full of shit
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>>66318621
anon, put it up for bidding if you're really looking to get rid of it. i think it will sell for what you're asking eventually though, so just be patient.
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>>66319288
>Are they thinner than the S521 neck?
S521 is 19mm at 1st and 21mm at 12th. From memory the Wizard was 17mm at 1st and 20mm (or 19mm?) at 12th.

>Are multiple-piece necks much worse?
Realistically they're better, more resistant to warping and those 11-piece necks are basically works of art. Ibanez one piece necks have some incredible profiles but the trade off is they have a reputation for warping if they're neglected.

S521 is one piece anyway though.

The "best" necks they did are probably on the MXX stuff. 5-piece necks as thin as Wizards, really crazy to play. My personal favourite is the 01/02 K7 neck which is crazy thick by RG Standards but I mainly play Gibson profiles...
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>>66318244
I like playing slide but I'd rather not have a dedicated slide guitar. I don't keep my action crazy low so I don't have much trouble playing both slide and normally on the same setup. I'm trying to get one of these old guitars as my eventual only acoustic.
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>>66314048
I love my dakota red Tele so much. It sounds, plays, and looks beautiful for every style of music I play.
On the other hand I hate Vox.
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>>66319315
Thanks a million, I was playing it and wondering why the fuck it wasn't sounding right and then I read that there was supposed to be a capo at the 3rd fret. Shiiiieeetttttttt.
>>66319394
Nah senpai I was serious. I've been playing for longer than I can remember and this is one of the best sounding acoustics I've ever played. It genuinely sounds as good as shit 3x its price. It's the only reason I bought it. It might literally be made of compressed sawdust and bits of wood they had left over but through some fucking wizardry it fucking sounds like that.
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>>66319572
Sometimes I play it with the capo on the 2nd fret, it sounds breddy gud there too
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>>66319633
Yeah I bet. Thanks again senpai.
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>>66319572
Friend of mine bought a guitar made of something dodgy for about $20 in Vietnam and it's the best sounding acoustic he owns.

Best sounding I've encountered was an early 80s Maton.
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>>66319454
My GIO (pic) is 20-22mm so it's not too different, I think. Even though it's rusted to shit I'm really glad I got it as my first guitar.
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>>66319666
Nice, to be fair though the X series I have is about as nice an X series you can get ($750 at regular price) so I can't really speak for the cheaper ones but I just can't believe that the shit sounds that good being made out of what used to just be swept up and thrown away. I do wonder how well it will hold up over time though. It'll be interesting to see how it feels sounds 15 years from now.
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has anyone ever tried Rondo or Xaviere guitars?

Thinking of picking up one of the XV-JT's
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>>66319701
It's more that the quality jump from something like an S421 or S521 to an older S540 is absolutely massive and they're relatively cheap guitars considering. People don't want the old S series nearly as much as RG550.

The only real drawback is the old models were 22 fret not 24 fret. I prefer that myself, but I know for a lot of people that could be a deal breaker.

How much more expensive is an RG655 where you are? Probably a bit too much of a bump but that's probably the best six string guitar in their range at the moment.

The Original Edge is almost identical to an OFR and takes about thirty seconds to block.

>>66319719
I played one of those new travel guitars they're making a few weeks ago. Short scale thing strung with 13-56. Really great sounding guitar even before taking into account how small it was.

>I do wonder how well it will hold up over time though.
I imagine it'd probably be fine, my concern would be how durable it is. I can't imagine it's the toughest stuff around. Although not hitting it on things is about a simple solution to a problem as it gets.
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>>66319865
>that's probably the best six string guitar in their range at the moment.
I'm not including models like the JCRG1405 for obvious reasons.

Why they're still putting those terrible Edge-Zero bridges on the j.custom S series stuff is beyond me.
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>>66319865
>RG655
Had one, it was lovely. The trem is excellent. I got tired of locking tremolos and had to sell one guitar for funds so it went away.
Beastly guitar for the price.
>>66319976
>Edge-Zero
I think it's because the nips like them, lots of Japanese market only Ibanez have the Zero variants.
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>>66320034
>I got tired of locking tremolos
I would've just blocked it myself.

>had to sell one guitar for funds so it went away.
Ouch. I had a similar situation awhile back, was sick for a few months and ended up having to sell my workstations. Thankfully I didn't really use them anymore haha.

>I think it's because the nips like them, lots of Japanese market only Ibanez have the Zero variants.
I don't see how anyone could like them. It's a terrible bridge. It was a huge step backwards from the Edge Pro to try and skirt around patenting laws. A pretty grim concept when you consider the Edge Pro was a step backwards from the LoPro Edge.
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>>66319865
Of those you listed, I can only find some used S540s, and they're around 50% to 100% more expensive than the S521. They look really nice but I don't think they are worth their price. And worst of all, if I bought one and I didn't like it, it'd be probably hard to sell. I'm only a bedroom player after all.

Plus the floating trems are a real deal breaker.
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Boys i can't figure out barre chords, any tips? My finger just ends up hurting and i still can't sound all 6 strings.
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>>66311739
I can remember my first time playing guitar back in 2004. It felt so foreign and awkward but now it feels almost like an extension of myself when I play. The most important thing is to persist and just enjoy the journey
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>>66320208
You need to give the guitar a firm handshake to let it know you're serious about this position.
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>>66320208
Practice heaps. Start baring chords lower down on the fret board (think something like baring fret 10) and work your way up to F at fret 1
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>>66320208
You just have to keep doing it and build that finger strength
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>>66320105
> I would've just blocked it myself.
Yeah, that would have worked but I'm seriously spoiled by the Music Man JP tremolos, they are very hassle free and work great. I have a PRS SE C24 as a beater guitar which I will block eventually to play with alternate tunings.

Kinda sucks selling gear but it's the only reasonable way I can justify buying more.

>>66320105
>I don't see how anyone could like them
All the ones I have personally seen have been corroded as fuck or rusted completely, it screams lower quality materials. Doesn't help that the people around here don't take good care of their stuff and the weather can be a bitch too. A tech friend of mine noticed the same, he serviced tons of guitars and usually the Edges and LoPros are in better shape.

By the way, getting the JP-2C this week haha. I had a deal in place with someone at The Gear Page but the amp was sold in his Reverb store while we were finishing details so I'm negotiating with another store to see if they can give me a good price.

>>66320205
Best of luck anon, at least you are in good hands here, Ausbro knows heaps about Ibanez.
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>>66316394
not him but
>ugly trash jazzmasters and mustangs

stop
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Could this possibly be a good project guitar? I'd like to do a burn/hendrix style finish on the guitar.
Pic related, only photo in the ad
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>>66320399
I'd buy it
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>>66320353
Thanks, I'll probably buy the guitar early next year. It'll be either the RGR321 or the S521, however hopefully more hard tail options show up. Which one would you prefer?
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>>66320455
You think so? Is there a serial number I could as for to check and make sure it's a legit fender? Mij fenders are pretty good from what I heard. It's not a huge investment anyway.
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>>66320227

It knows i'm only half committed at this point considering we only spend so much time together.

>>66320268

Alright I don't mind practicing but this kind of practice is so dry, necessary i know. thanks.

>>66320278
alright i understand, can't get around it, i appreciate it.
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>>66320492
>S521
I think, the Quantum pickups seem to be better. The INFs aren't good at all.
Unless you are planning to replace the pickups, it would be a better initial investment.

Although the reverse headstock is really appealing but I'd still go with the S as it seems the better instrument on paper.
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>>66320498
I'm sure there is a serial number you could check. Ask the seller.
>It's not a huge investment anyway.
That's why I'd buy it. I've heard a lot of great things about MiJ Fenders and $150 is a steal, even if you gotta fix it up a bit.
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>>66319723
I've heard some nasty things about xavier, but considering they're the only people who seem to make cheap jazzmaster copies I'd look for a direct source on that. I haven't played one myself. I've heard only good things about slick guitars, which is funny because I'd expect them to be the same necks. Rondo on the other hand I can vouch for. I have a few of those and haven't been disappointed. That said SX seem to be the only ones suitable for playing without fretwork. The other ones are strictly mod platforms. I guess some of that is changing, idk which new models outside of SX are actually good.
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>>66320614
>I'm sure there is a serial number you could check. Ask the seller.
I'd do this just to be sure, however the online tools only do a pattern match with the SN, it doesn't really gives you any confirmation.
You can mail Fender for confirmation but they might take days to respond and by that time the guitar would be gone.
>>66320498
If it's a real MIJ Fender for $150 it's a no brainer, absolute steal.
Here's a real 1987 MIJ Strat if you want to compare.
http://ampguitars.com/fender-1987-mij-stratocaster-white/
That one seems to have these holes drilled on it
http://www.electricfender.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/made-in-japan-2.jpg
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>>66320614
Thanks. I'll have to contact him tomorrow. I'm not sure where to even find the serial number. I'll probably ask for some more up close pictures. Hopefully it isn't too good to be true.
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>>66320205
>Of those you listed, I can only find some used S540s, and they're around 50% to 100% more expensive than the S521. They look really nice but I don't think they are worth their price.
Absolutely worth the price but double is a bit much. Over here they're similarly priced to a lot of the low range Ibanez.

>Plus the floating trems are a real deal breaker.
See >>66320105 that's about as much science that goes into making one fixed.

>>66320353
>Yeah, that would have worked but I'm seriously spoiled by the Music Man JP tremolos
Oh you're that guy haha. Yeah who cares then, the JPs are top notch in pretty much every way. Not for me personally though. I'm not a fan of that tremolo really, that's a preference thing though, nothing to do with the quality of it.

>Kinda sucks selling gear but it's the only reasonable way I can justify buying more.
I've sold tons of guitars, in a band years ago I had three RG1527s haha. I don't have any of them now.

>getting the JP-2C this week haha.
Oh sick, get a good deal? What cab do you plan to run with it? If you can blast it it'd pair up amazingly with C90s.

>Ausbro knows heaps about Ibanez.
The countries primary Ibanez dealer is down the road which helps haha. I've got access to the distributor catalogs if I never need specific details.

>>66320492
>>66320587
The INF pickups are completely terrible. I've heard the Quantums are better but still nothing great. I haven't really sat down with them much, I tend to ignore Ibanez pickups since I swap them out pretty much instantly anyway.

>Although the reverse headstock is really appealing but I'd still go with the S as it seems the better instrument on paper.
The RGR321 is a pretty old design now, however the first year had the less-terrible "EMG" H1 pickups not the Ibanez pickups. Something to keep in mind maybe.
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>>66320587
Some online stores list the S521 with INF pickups, I should be careful. I plan on changing at least the bridge pup to a X2N because I really love Eddie Clarke's sound.

The RGR321 seems to have a better finish and I'm really digging its design, what does the fretboard binding adds to the instrument, exactly?
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>>66320763
Dude, even if it's fake, it looks like a fender which is pretty much the one feature that makes a fender worth more than other knockoffs. I don't think you can lose on this.
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>>66320809
>Some online stores list the S521 with INF pickups
That's probably incorrect. Unless it was different in various markets all S521s had the Quantum pickups. I'm not super versed on S series though so I could be mistaken, don't really like that myself.

A lot of stores can't tell the difference between close models of Ibanez and frankly who can blame them with the convoluted model numbers they've taken to using.

My only real recommendation would be to check the bridge. If it's a Gibraltar it's an S421 not an S521 and has the INF pickups.
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>>66320568
Play fairly high up the neck until you get used to it. You can also tune half a step flat for a while to get the hang of it.
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>>66320908
Thanks for the reassurance. Hopefully it's legit, I'd like to have a project guitar to work on.
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>>66320498
>>66320399
Looks legit. I would guess it's a fender contemporary strat in Sunburst that had been modded over the years. Everything besides the bridge checks out.

The serial number is right under the fender logo on the headstock btw. Worst case scenario its a redecaled squier E serious which is just as valuable.
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>>66320773
My problems with floating trems is that I think I sweat on the bridge and it gets all fucking rusty, which already fucked the two lower saddles on my GIO and them incapable of changing height, but that's probably because the bridge on it is made of shitty metals. Even the pickup screws are unscrewable thanks to all the rust.

>>66320918
Yeah, it is probably wrong. Also the S421 only has inlays on the 12th fret.

Is the Gibraltar bridge better or worse than the S521 bridge?
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https://youtu.be/Dx1XtKbEtfE

Is it cool for non-guitarists to post songs with good guitar?
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>$195 "used" with the plastic still on it
>Stays in tune perfectly even when slamming the whammy bar as hard as possible
>Slight string buzz disappeared completely with just some saddle adjustments and a set of 10-52s

I'm so glad I didn't let the cheap offset tremelo meme keep me from getting this. Tbh this plays as well as the '71 Mustang at my local Guitar Center if not better.
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>>66320999
Yeah I browsed 80s and 90s jap squires on ebay and a lot of them are 300+. Sent him an email, hopefully I hear from him tomorrow.
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>>66320773
>The JPs are top notch in pretty much every way
Unfortunately true, I've become Petrucci's bitch when it comes to gear.
>I had three RG1527
GASed for one or a RG752 when I wanted a 7-string, almost got the UV777PBK universe but changed my mind at the last moment.
I still want a 7-string but I'm gonna stop buying guitars for this year at least or I'll go broke... I would love a Boden 7.
> get a good deal?
As good as you could get with an amp that new, trying to get it open box/mint for $300-400 less than brand new (with luck).
> What cab do you plan to run with it?
At home I have a straight no-name 1x12 V30 cab which is going to be an absolute disservice to the amp haha, but it's all I can use here without getting in trouble with the neighbors. The crapclone comes in handy for those late night practices.
I usually borrow some Marshall 1960AV or 1960BV for gigs but currently don't have any planned and work is leaving me little to no spare time.
I will try to make an appointment to a local practice place just to test the amp cranked to hell on a 4x12 for sure.

>>66321079
I haven't had issues with any of my newer guitars which have quality bridges, my older ones didn't fare so well: a MIM Strat I had rusted to hell and the PRS SE is rusted a little bit.
Cleaning them well after playing and storing them in a gig bag or case helps a lot.
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>>66321111
https://youtu.be/nZr8iReEqMQ

This is my shit. wait for the bass solo.
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>>66321154
hahahaha i just realized thats not a bass solo.
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>>66321154
HOMOEROTIC UNDERTONES
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>>66321146
I always cleaned it after playing but nowadays it's useless. I guess my case was a combination of living on the coast + sweat + shitty bridge. I only put it in the bag when I take it somewhere, I like having it right by my side so I can pick it up and play whenever I feel like.

How can I identify a quality bridge that probably wont rust?
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>>66321079
>My problems with floating trems is that I think I sweat on the bridge and it gets all fucking rusty
Yeah it's more of a cheap bridge issue. I get the same problem with Edge Pro and Edge Zero bridges. No issue on Original Edge or LoPros.

>Is the Gibraltar bridge better or worse than the S521 bridge?
Can't say for certain, Ibanez is a bit ambiguous as to what fixed bridge they're using now. That's usually a sign it's worse though, so my gut says the Gibraltar would be better.

On the flip a Hipshot might be a drop in replacement for the new bridge. You'd want to check though.

>>66321146
>Unfortunately true, I've become Petrucci's bitch when it comes to gear.
Will admit, Petrucci is a guitarist who got less interesting to me over his career. Never really been into Dream Theater but his playing on Images and Words was really cool.

However, any guitarist who uses and stands by the same gear for twenty years plus is saying something to me. Just don't play an Ibanez JPM or it'll fuck you up forever.

>GASed for one or a RG752 when I wanted a 7-string
Yeah the RG752 is a MASSIVE return to form for Ibanez. Hell I'd buy one.They need to do a prestige version of the RGAIX7FM though.

>almost got the UV777PBK
The secret Universe is the '97 UV7BK. They're identical to the green dot but without the green, so no one wants them.

>I would love a Boden 7.
The .strandberg* stuff is incredible. Friend of mine has an 8-string model and I played Plini's briefly last year. I'm more of a Mayones guy in that price range though.

>I usually borrow some Marshall 1960AV or 1960BV for gigs
They're great cabinets but I imagine they might be a bit nasally on that amp. Don't be afraid to scoop the shit out of the mids on it, a soft V on a Mark sounds like flatline on anything else.

Do you know if they upped to drive to be closer to the IIC+ or is closer to the V? I found the V unusable without a boost and running the bass at like 1 to swell the mids.
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>>66321354
You really can't. But what you can look for at a minimum is that it's heavy, and that the screws in particular are very shiny. Obviously it's hard to judge the weight of the bridge without removing it. Anyway, if you've got hands that tend to promote rust no bridge will be impervious. Just try to remove rust ad it appears and polish shit.
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>>66321395
>my gut says the Gibraltar would be better.
Another reason to buy the RGR321 then.

>>66321481
I'll look into polishing some other time, then.
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>>66321395
>Petrucci is a guitarist who got less interesting to me over his career.
I have the same feeling, I did idolize him when I was learning guitar and I did improve quite a bit by learning his stuff.
Nowadays I have respect for him but I feel he's past his prime.
His guitars are great but EBMM is going overkill by releasing an anniversary model each gear. I blame Sterling Ball mostly for that.
The amp is a real beast though. It's not easy to appease the SevenString and The Gear Page crowds at the same time.

>Ibanez JPM
Thank God I love piezos. The JPMs have a lot of character though and they sound amazing.

>prestige version of the RGAIX7FM
I appreciate they don't do a Prestige of some of the best Iron Labels, otherwise I'd be in financial trouble.
I guess they want to keep the fancier Japanese-made stuff as J Custom only but they keep adding the inferior bridges to those...

>I imagine they might be a bit nasally on that amp
Yep, it makes the 2 separate GEQs more convenient since you can balance that better for rhythm and leave a little bit more of mids for the leads. Nothing a pedal wouldn't accomplish but it's handy to have on the amp. The drive is closer to the IIC+, it's the closest you can get to that specific IIC+ sans the real thing. It doesn't behave like a V which I feel kinda lacks a little something.
Looks a lot like a Mark V when opened though, pretty cool.
> How does it compare to the Mark llC++ for gain? It powered right on by the C++ and even motors past any Mark lll in the gain department. When I got home I maxed out the gain on the C++ just to see what it would sound like and the JP2C definitely has more gain than my C++.
>The .strandberg* stuff is incredible.
Both brands interest me a lot, top notch quality... Maybe in a couple of years. Mayones seem to be really expensive on the US though. I might just go for a Boden OS 7 second hand.
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>>66321692
RGR321 only had it on the 2010-2012 models. Prior to that was a no name fixed. Like I said have a Google to see if a hipshot is a drop in replacement for the no-name fixed. That'd be the way I'd go if it fits.

>>66321481
>>66321692
Take the bridge apart and soak everything in WD40 overnight. Then scrub away with the hardest bristle tooth brush you can find.

One trick to prevent rust is to put a drop of lemon oil on a cloth and wipe everything down after playing. I don't mean the lemon oil sold for fretboard cleaning, lemon oil lemon oil. It's an alkaline and prevents corrosion.

>>66321828
>EBMM is going overkill by releasing an anniversary model each gear
I couldn't even begin to explain JP models to anyone.

>The amp is a real beast though. It's not easy to appease the SevenString and The Gear Page crowds at the same time.
That's a light way of putting it. It really intrigues me, which is something Mesa hasn't done in ages. I'd be jumping to play one, but I know it'll carry an absolutely absurd price tag on this side of the pond, so I may as well just get two Mark IIIs (front of a red, back of a blue) or a Quad Pre with a 2:100.

>piezo
I keep meaning to borrow a guitar with a dual output. I imagine the magnetic into input 1 and the piezo into input 2 doing some parallel wizardry on the AxeFx could sound awesome.

>2 separate GEQ
I think people don't understand how the Mark tonestack works and what a HUGE deal having the two GEQs is. It's an absolutely massive game changer for the Mark series.

>It doesn't behave like a V which I feel kinda lacks a little something.
Good. I'll never forget firing up a V for the first time and saying something like, "So it's a worse sounding IV that costs twice as much?"

I still have my doubts that it'll be as outright ferocious as a red stripe III, but I'm hopeful. If you ever want a good laugh play a purple stripe Colosseum III.

It'd be hard for a Mesa to dethrone my modded DSL though. That thing is a monster.
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Thoughts?


https://youtu.be/FNcJ91bRamI
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>>66322716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nIQY1n_lq8
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I've played bass since high school and played in bands in college, but now I mostly make experimental music. I still want to play an instrument, but when I pick up my bass I mostly want to put it in weird tunings and do finger picking stuff, so I'm thinking of getting a guitar. my dream guitar is a Jaguar or telecaster, but I'm sure I'll get something weird off Craigslist or a pawn shop because I'm cheap ..thoughts / suggestions?
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>>66322793
pawn shops can actually have good gear at retardedly low prices
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>>66314599
that's not a 60th anniversary
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>>66311578
>it's starting to get really hot where I live
>suddenly fretbuzz
Fuck this gay earth, I don't want to redo my entire setup on all my instruments.
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>>66314653
These are at a similar pricepoint to Strandberg* production runs, but Ormsby seem to trump every other production brand in the QC and design factor. Also a nicer shape.
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I've had my first electric guitar for about 3 years now but I've been playing for 5 years, I can't say I'm bad but I feel like I'm not progressing well.
It's a LP Jr. with a single humbucker and a fixed wrap-around bridge.
I'm pretty satisfied with it for now, a couple of friends, way more skilled and experienced than me managed to convince me to not buy a new guitar yet, I joke a lot about my guitar looking better when they play it.
So far I'm looking to switch my bridge with an Intonable/adjustable wrap-around bridge so that I can properly adjust my action.
Is there any proper adjustable wrap-around that won't break the bank?
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>>66323093
This sounds weird, identifying someone based on their garden, but aren't you the Sandberg bro?
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>>66323864
GTR is made in Korea. Good guitars buy nothing compared to the good .stranberg*.
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>>66324264
Sure am!

Also blue Les Paul
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>>66324461
I always thought you were a bassist, didn't know that you played guitar. Have you tried a Sandberg guitar by any chance? I don't have a use for one but I'd be interested if they nail those as well as the basses.
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>>66324490
No, they haven't got any in my local store.
I know the have some basses on order, not sure if they ordered guitars as well.

And yes, I play mainly bass, mostly double bass, but have played guitar more or less forever
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>>66324613
Oh, cool. I literally just ordered an NS design electric upright last week, should arrive in a few days.
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>>66324389
I'd say the pickups are better than anything found in even the most expensive Strandberg* guitars, personally
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>>66324867
.strandberg* will use pretty much anything you like.
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>>66324994
yeah, but the Ormsby pickups are probably the best production pickups I've ever heard. Besides, we're comparing Ormsby GTR production runs to custom shop Stranberg*'s, compared to the Strandys that are at the GTR pricepoint, I think the GTRs win out. All personal opinion though. And I do really like Strandberg*, too.
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Autistic question here.

If the conductor has the baton, the army officer have their ceremonial sword, what does the guitarist have as a ceremonial object?
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>>66325544
His dick.
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>>66325544
The bass player.
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>>66324762
Haven't found an eub that I love yet, but I'm fine lugging my doubles around.
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>>66323093
It is, but it's the cheaper kind. It's got the special plate on the back, but not the seal behind the headstock. I thought it looked nice.
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should i get the fender pro junior iii? is it any good?
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>>66325669
I know that it won't be the same but I absolutely can't play a real upright in my apartment, with an apartment below me and surrounded by 2 others it would be unbearable for them. Judging by demos it sounds pretty damn close to an amplified upright with a few tricks (proper EQing, a tiny bit of reverb and real upright strings).
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>>66314948
>Weight reduction
It's not a car
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>>66326181
Laney CUB-12R, voiced differently but with a 12 inch speaker, reverb, and eq, it has a lot more to offer in the same price range. Personally I don't like 10's, 12's sound better.
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>>66318652
Or, are you living the dream?
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>>66326770
nah m8, 15' is superior
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>>66324389
Production Strandbergs are korean too, no japaneses yet.
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Anyone got any new gear today? I got a BOSS SD-1 to get high-ish gain toanz on my Laney cub10 and it works pretty good.
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>>66326657
You still benefit from weight reduction, a lighter neck won't dive, and a light guitar will be easier to play on stage for a long time. Or even just on your lap.
If you've got the chance to, try out an Ibanez S. They're the lightest cheap production guitar I've tried, and they feel like absolutely nothing.
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>>66327025
I prefer heavy guitars. Neck-Body balance is important though.
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Nice richman pic you got there OP
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>>66327043
>I prefer heavy guitars.
RIP anon's back
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>>66323838
only change the truss rod. There's little elves coming and messing with your bridge
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>>66327179
>There's little elves coming and messing with your bridge

wait, so not only do i have to worry about the sock trolls, there are also truss rod elves?
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>>66324209
guitar fetish makes one, I think it might come without polish though
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>>66327023
Bought a Hotrod Deluxe last week.
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>>66327191
nah but really the neck will move with weather, everything else will always stay the same.
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>>66327063
DYEL?
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>>66317568
>tfw literally signed up today just so I can view pics of everyone's gear

Gonna test the waters and see what the bantz level is like over there before I start shitposting.
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>Be from USA
>In UK

>Go to a guitar shop that seems cool
>Some guitars have signs saying please ask, not many though
>Chilling out, playing some stuff
>Not planning on buying, just observing what's going on in guitar world nowadays, see if everything is still shit
>Goddamn these Martin guitars sound terrible
>These Gibsons sound like cardboard
>Wow the only good guitar in this room is a Taylor 12 string

>Decide to head over to the electric section even though I am bad at electric
>Try out a Marr Jag and Hendrix strat
>Strat was bretty good
>Decide to try a Wine Red LP Trad
>Goofing around with reverb on amp and playing eastern inspired fingerstyle
>Guy asks me if I'm planning on buying
>No. Just trying things out
>We prefer if people ask with the more expensive guitars first
>Asks for my backpack
>implying I want to steal a Mandolin or Ukulele when I have big fingers
>Out of my groove now because of that interruption
>Leave
Fucking hate guitar shops here. Back home I could do whatever, chill out, talk to people, and just have a good time. Here, they expect you to buy everything you damn well see. REEE
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>>66313900
This dude is an autistic retard.
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>>66327244
I genuinely have scoliosis so even standing up for too long gets painful.
Ask any doctor about it and they'll tell you regular straps and heavy guitars are awful for your back. Even worse if you wear it low.

>>66327269
sounds just like a bad store, I've only bought once from my local guitar shop and I've spent hours trying out guitars there
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>>66327299
>tfw it's the only store that isn't pure fascist with the try before you play meme
The others want you to ask when all they've got is shitty classicals and ibanez acoustics. The UK is like a musical instrument wasteland.
>nofunallowed
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>>66327299
>took the bantz seriously

come now, brah.

>>66327317
>The UK is like a wasteland

fix'd
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>>66327269
You lucked out, anon.

Could be that store has a theft problem or are just arseholes

Luckily my local stores are all chill: No probs spending a few hours thrashing the Gibsons and Suhrs.
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>>66327317
>try before you play
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>>66327317
I'm right next to the UK, which is why it seems odd.
At least it's not brazil or australia, where everything's overpriced on top of that.

>>66327329
I'm just trying to warn people, damaging your health just to "look cool" is stupid.
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>>66327353
meant ask.
>>66327347
Well, even so.. how is anyone gonna book it out the front door when there's a sea of amps, keyboards, stands, and used guitars that would impale you. Bretty sure they are arseholes.
>Ask some dude if he knows where my backpack is
>No.
>Have to ask someone else to find it because he would rather stand there doing nothing
>>66327361
Everything is overpriced in the UK too. It is fucking ridiculous.
>LP Trad UK is £2100 = $2700
>LP Trad USA is $2200 = £1750
Such a damn rip off. Amp pricetags are xbox sized as well.
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>>66327417
Just cross the English Channel and shop in France, they're around €2k here if I read that right. Or buy from Thomann, €2k as well.
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>>66327361
I think only 14 years olds play low because they think it looks cool. Most people put it where they're most comfortable playing. I put mine around/just above my waist because if it's higher my picking dynamics gets all messed up.

>>66327417
>how is anyone gonna book it out the front door
People do it where I live. Some dude stole a 25k Gibson CS Hollowbody in the middle of the day. He did get caught tho.
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>>66327517
You are playing low. Put it where it is when you're sitting or you're just plain doing it wrong
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>>66327884
Not always correct, depending on your body. If you're fat then having your instrument at certain heights will angle it and make it legitimately hard to play, breasts can get in the way as well, etc.
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>>66311578
I just watched that Rob Scallion guy for the first time, why are you shitting on him exactly? I certainly can't pull the shit off he's doing in his videos.
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>>66328145
he played a 9 string so he's by default shit
more objectively though, he's kinda samey sometimes, and overrated. but not a bad player by any mean
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>>66328187
I thought the real complaint with ergs was that people only chug on the lower strings. He actually seems to use that range quite well, so people just complain as a meme or because it's cool to hate popular people?
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>>66328353
Both. The excuse to hate on people who make use of ERG is "wanking".
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>>66328381
Ah, gotcha. Glad I checked it out myself then.
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>>66327988
I lel'd that the St Vincent sig is made to work around tits.
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>>66327988
>having breasts
>"playing" guitar
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>>66328460
You may laugh but my wife regularly complains that she can't have her bass as high as she wants it to be because of her breasts. You have to imagine your entire chest area can't be accessed and may even impede the movement of your arms.
>>66328512
She plays bass.
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so im in a duo, bass/vocals and drums and i want to try splitting my signal and sending one through an eq pedal to take out the lows and then sending that through an overdriven guitar amp, I figure as long as i keep the lows out of the speaker it shouldn't cause damage to it, also shouldn't sound muddy like OD bass tends too, does this make sense?
also what do you think is a good match for the wattage? would be? something like 30 watt guitar and 200 watt bass?
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>>66328524
>You may laugh but my wife regularly complains that she can't have her bass as high as she wants it to be because of her breasts. You have to imagine your entire chest area can't be accessed and may even impede the movement of your arms.

maybe girls shouldn't play guitar/bass then

they don't seem to be very good at it anyway
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>>66328654
You could get something like a micro pog and send the octave up through a guitar amp.
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how the fuck do you go that fast on a bass
I can barely get it up to speed on guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5aF6pGVDRM
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>>66328695
i was thinking along those lines as well, but i like the sound of OD bass mixed with dry, i assume lots of people do since so many pedals have that function but i don't like many bass OD pedals so i figured maybe i would save up for a rocker 30 or something like that and just do that, i want an orange amp anyways for fucking around on guitar
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>>66328697
why would you want to? it just sounds like a machine gun of wet farts
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>>66328697
the key to speed is accuracy.

the key to accuracy is slow practice
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>>66328654
i play in a band where i have a similar setup and i've had no problem running a signal thru a guitar amp. my bass amp is a 350 watt peavey firebass thru a 4X12 cab and my guitar amp is a fender mustang IV (100 watts, 2x12)
i do eq all the low frequencies out of the guitar amp, and most times run the signal into it an octave up with my whammy pedal

pic is my board
here is my chain:
it starts at the tuner and splits from there
one signal goes thru the whammy and into the mustang IV
the other half goes thru all the other pedals into the bass amp
the mustang has tons of built in effects that i can use too, and with the whammy i can have the bass signal in the guitar amp at normal or kick it up whenever i want to kinda mimic a guitar.

>>66328676
or they can play with the strap in a million of other positions.
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>>66328676
t. virgin bedroom guitarist
Maybe people should just do what they enjoy.
Or maybe you're just jealous because I have a partner who shares my love and interest in music, I can jam with my wife, I'm living the dream.
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>>66328744
Check your ears, it's clear despite him playing through a Haartke A100. Would definitely sound great through a Darkglass B7K.

>>66328763
Yeah I know, but on a 34ish scale lenght, that's really impressive.
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is this guitaring any good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94PHt8FkB-E
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>>66328814
lol all this mad
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