Today there were some threads about making an updated /mu/core chart.
It sucked.
Here's an accurate chart that doesn't include flavor-of-the-month crap.
Discuss, I may make changes to it.
Take Cardiacs off for the love of god.
Other than that good chart.
>>65870957
You may not like it, but you have to admit that the album is posted quite a lot here.
Take Joanna Newsom off for the love of god.
Other than that good chart.
>>65870979
this again>>65870975
Replace Ys with Have One on Me and The Money Store with Niggas on the Moon.
Glad to see Sing to God making the list.
>>65871016
I'll do HOOM but I'm not sure about replacing TMS with NotM, that might be controversial (although I have seen NotM praised more lately)
>>65870913
Maybe swap TMR with Velvet Underground or Talking Head as I feel it's discussed a lot more often. I also don't really see Animals or even Endtroducting... talked about that much. Still a much better list then the usual ones I see though.
sub /mu/core should be larger, since its definitely a larger list than /mu/core
no love for a Moon Shaped Meme?
>>65871087
Nearly everyone here regards NotM as the best DG album.
>>65870957
This person is wrong, Cardiacs NEED to stay....
Can we update this chart? Seperate P4k-core into P4k, RYM and Scaruffi core, allowing more variety in the classics section? Also adding more to each individual sections and adding a classical recordings section as well?
I don't have any fancy photo editing software, but I'd be happy to help in some way shape or form
>>65871145
I wouldn't say nearly everyone, but it's probably the most praised.
The question is, do we just put NotM, or The Powers That B as a whole?
>>65870913
maybe take off Endtroducing & replace it with Forever Changes?
>>65870913
How the fuck is there not a Blues general?
>>65871126
flavor of the month, for now
we need to see what time does to it
>>65871171
this is the best chart, even if its not updated, though i do miss the picture at the bottom that says hipster victory
>>65871193
I barely see it discussed.
>>65870913
this is the most accurate one i've seen desu
i don't know how i feel about madvilliany, TVU&N and soundtracks for the blind being in the main section because i dont see them discussed here all that often but hey
>Neu!
>frequently discussed
We need to have a Tago Mago vs Future Days poll if any chart is going to be made
>>65871191
i'd say put TPTB as a whole
>>65871227
Endtroducing gets talked about all the time.
>>65870913
replace Neu! with Faust and we're good
also Autechre are probably eligible for a spot, they fill whole generals frequently after all
>>65871287
>>65871227
Nevermind, replied to wrong person.
>>65871243
Some sort of Swans album should definitely stay in the main section. TVU&N gets discussed way more frequently than ITCOTCK and both should stay for the sake of timelessness.
>>65871287
I never see Forever Changes discussed, I mean
>>65871291
Neu! is posted much more than Faust
>>65870913
replace neu! with glow pt 2
Update #1, added in TPTB and HOOM as per request
Sprained Ankle?
>>65871331
oh shit forgot about that, will add.
>>65871322
The only reason Forever Changes is mentioned is because someone wanted to push it to be discussed more, saying it would "Save /mu/" or some shit like that.
>>65871331
I didn't even notice that The Glow Pt 2 wasn't on there. I should be at least sub-mucore for sure.
>>65871171
I like this chart the most too, even though I don't feel it's 100% accurate.
Example, does anyone ever talk about Grateful Dead here?
>>65871357
Find a different ITCOTCK picture, that error in the name is killing me.
Anerican Football seems out of place to me. Not sure if it's even sub /mu/core at this point.
Cardiacs need to go desu
>>65871436
no they need to stay
it's posted a lot and it's a good album as well
>>65871409
I'll edit the name in
Instead of any Radiohead album just put a really lo res picture of Thom Yorke's face. I can't say that Radiohead has a most discussed album here.
>>65871408
there are a few grateful dead threads every so often, but usually dont amount to much since they're a bit of a niche band
>>65871476
They're the definition of flavor-of-the-month
>>65871499
True but Kid A is pretty much the definitive RH album.
Update #2. Replaced Neu! with The Glow pt. 2 and corrected and added an artist name to ITCOTCK
>>65871516
nah, they've been posted around here for years
This is a very contentious opinion but put Grimes on here. She's discussed at length every single day. Regardless if you like her or not, she's a part of board culture.
>>65871629
They've only been posted lately because of le sporkcore meme. If they go on here than James Ferraro and Longboi Season should go on here.
>>65871357
I feel like we should have The Money Store in there instead of The Powers That B
>>65870913
>not including OK Computer
my favorite meme
>>65871636
Fuck that, we're not putting albums up there for the sake of waifu shit. Besides, none of her albums have enough attention consistently to be considered "core." Art Angels was flavor-of-the-month stuff.
>>65871698
Kid A is more talked about and respected here
>>65871691
TPTB is getting more praise. And I don't think that's a flavor-of-the-month thing; if that were the case BP would be getting the praise.
>>65871671
they've been posted more, sure, but as with fishmans, always had a decent fanbase and amount of discussion
>>65871578
put long season on this. maybe in place of floyd?
Put Floral Shoppe on there. Like it or not vaporwave is a HUGE part of /mu/ culture considering we basically invented it.
>>65871746
>not putting them both on
summerfags fucking everywhere smfh
>>65871758
Maybe I'm just oblivious but I don't think I've seen that album as much as Floyd
>>65871714
>>65871746
I really don't see TPTB discussed that much. DG gets discussed all the time but no particular album stands out to me as being the most popular. I always just thought TMS was most representative of the band.
Maybe what DG album to put on the chart should be left to a vote, unless of course I just get drowned out right now and we'll leave TPTB up there.
>>65871758
Long Season isn't popular enough. It only had a niche fanbase of RYM users and weebs until it became a meme.
>>65871714
That's not even close to true. I do though.
>>65871426
Agree to this, but only to it being downgraded.
/mu/ also adores Stratosphere by Duster.
>>65871782
>we basically invented it.
no, this board helped popularize it which is completely different
Where's Barter 6 or OBND?
>>65871795
No I agree with you. It also doesn't hurt that I prefer the Money Store to TPTB.
>>65871629
Also OP it seems like you're just keeping Cardiacs because you like them when others say they need to go. Consider replacing them
>>65870975
No not really, it's posted here occasionally but I bet less than 25% of the board has heard it.
Also remove Neu that albums barely discussed and replace with the first Faust album.
Also take sweet trip off and replace it with long season.
Then I would say to represents /mu/ perfectly.
>>65871825
still a big part of this board
floral shoppe or oneohtrix point never need to be on there to represent vaporwave. something needs to represent it.
>>65871846
fotm memes
>>65871854
No. Don't take Cardiacs off. Sing to God is one of the best albums ever, plus it is posted here regularly.
>>65871357
I personally feel like TMS should've stayed, it's mentioned a lot more
>>65870913
>>65871357
>>65871578
half the albums in the sub /mu/core don't belong there at all, and remove meme grips entirely cause that shit is flavor of the month tripe
Poll to decide if I should replace Sing to God with Long Season
http://www.strawpoll.me/10560307
>>65871357
Money store instead of the powers that b, the powers that b is much. Ore "flavor of the month," and is not as important to this board as TMS.
>>65871904
>its mentioned a lot more
I only see it mentioned as the accessible pleb album
>>65871918
Just because you don't like le black people music doesn't mean it's fotm. Like it or not the Money Store deserves its place on the list
>>65871935
The /mu/core chart is the more accessible stuff that everyone should be familiar with so if that was true it would make sense to leave it on.
Poll to decide which DG album goes in, between TMS and TPTB
http://www.strawpoll.me/10560318
>>65871793
>>65871818
well of course floyd are one of the biggest bands in the world, but they're not as defining of this board's own taste or culture
StG, V:C:N, Deathcon are similarly niche, just that the niche happens to gather on this board, which the chart is supposed to represent
otherwise, put Sgt Peppers
>>65871935
Tons of people like the TMS, at least much more than TPTB.
Also request that we replace sweet trip with TPAB.
Also keep American Football, it is still discussed enough around here to be considered /mu/-core
>>65871985
>V:C:N
*V:D:C, i mean
>>65871997
TPAB is flavor-of-the-month until time proves otherwise
>>65871997
I don't think TPAB belongs here. It's good, sure. But its place is reddit, not here
>>65871965
>Like it or not the Money Store deserves its place on the list
>this is what high schoolers actually believe
>>65872026
It's been over a year and there's are still threads about it all the time.
>>65871971
Thats a good point, though I wouldn't say its discussed more
>>65871997
I bet a ton of people do like TMS but I haven't seen it mentioned as much as TPTB
>>65872049
It's still the latest album in a popular artist's discography
>>65872044
People discuss it here all the time, that makes it /mu/-core it doesn't matter if Reddit likes it that's completely irrelevant.
>>65872085
>Untitled Unmastered isn't a thing
>>65872117
It's a collection of B-sides
>>65872092
see >>65872085
I don't think it's been around long enough to be considered /mu/ core. It's discussed because it's recent not because it's great.
>>65871357
Replace animals with A Love Supreme, we already have tons of prof rock and no Jazz, and I'd say jazz is a pretty important part of this board.
>>65872173
Good point
I'm wondering if I should do that, Kind of Blue, or something else?
>>65872127
One, it's great, two it isn't the most recent album by Kendrick, three it's been over a year and people still won't stop talking about, it's discussed way more than animals, and v:d:c.
>>65872205
Kind of Blue seems like the logical choice for entry-level jazz but I honestly don't see it come up here much. Maybe Black Saint & The Sinner Lady.
>>65872205
I'd say John Coltrane is the most popular jazz musician on this board, and A Love Suprem is the most loved.
But I think we should see what other people say.
>>65872243
Kendrick is garbage. Don't put this reddit top forty normcore on a /mu/ chart that's supposed to provide new music, not shit everyone's heard before.
>>65872205
Maybe add another line in sub/mu/core
>>65871408
Thank god someone else noticed the lack of grateful dead representation on the chart. American beauty is definitely the right album to make it on there but terrapin station could find a spot in there imo
>>65872280
Then why the fuck did we put Oanye in /mu/-core? /mu/-core is supposed to represent the music most discussed on this board and TPAB is talked about endlessly.
>>65870913
we already went through this shit like 3 weeks ago.
>>65872046
Hill is pretty based but MC Ride rubs his ghetto off on him and the whole thing gets a little too ghetto hard
>>65871263
https://youtube.com/watch?v=e-u6e9G3k20
>>65872321
This is less extensive and wrong in some areas.
>>65872319
*Kanye
My bad
>>65872046
it is posted here frequently.
>>65871578
>tmr not on /mu/core
swap tmr and madvillainy
replace tptb with tms or exmilitary
remove cardiacs and blonde on blonde
>>65872289
This.
Add another line, in it add Long Season, Kind of Blue, Faust, Laughing Stock, & Emergency & I
Just my take though
>>65872321
The ONLY change that needs to be done to this is replace MBDTF with TPAB. The first one is discussed around here, and there are many threads (not always in a positive mood, I know) of the second.
>>65872205
We need some country in there.
Unfortunately the only album that would qualify is Jason faggot Aldean.
>>65872355>>65871578
If say swap TMR with cardiac a and keep Madvillany, people on here love Doom.
>>65872359
>>65872289
will do
>>65871578
Id replace Animals with Wish You Were Here. WYWH gets mentioned a lot more here
>>65872344
If you're gonna say something's wrong and not explain why just don't say anything, my friend.
What's wrong with it (besides MBDTF)?
>>65872375
No, we don't.
We're putting together a 2010s-only /mu/core / A(s)OTD chart too
See the WIP: >>65872367 << HERE
It's shit so far
http://www.rkursem.com/poll/view.php?id=d739fe9d4a2bede0d
Same rules apply, light on the memes, add what you don't see, watch for duplicates
Best chart coming through
What do you people think when you make a thread like this? "Oh I'll create a new chart and people will take it as the official /mu/core chart cause I made a thread about it once." This chart will never see the light of day outside of this thread
If we're doing more sub-/mu/core add in The Mollusk
Also definitely keep TMS instead of TPTB, Death Grips as a whole is mentioned a lot here and that's a perfect starting point for beginners.
>>65872375
1) /mu/ core is representative of albums that are highly discussed. It's not a chart of /mu/'s essentials.
2) Country is BARELY even mentioned here. Heck, it even became kind of a meme.
>>65872321
>forever changes
>low
>tago mago
Pretty shit list desu
>>65872509
Gigantic, unorganized, and too inclusive IMO
>>65872511
shut up u dum anime poster
>>65872511
Pretty much when a chart like this is added to the wiki it's considered official
>>65872173
a love supreme is an accurate choice, however i don't know if it's the most appropriate. bitches brew would also work very well, same with saxophone colossus.
>>65872421
not the same guy, but the one big flaw for me is low being in over OK computer
>>65872373
this is a very stupid idea. mbdtf is still discussed FAR more than tpab.
>>65872280
so? i think that trout mask replica is garbage, but it still deserves to be on the chart, because it is representative of the music discussed here.
>>65872375
this album is never posted with the intention of serious discussion.
>>65872509
>the mollusk
>the idiot
>heroes
>astral weeks
>benji
>2001
>blue lines
>drake
>sgt pepper
there is so much unfathomably wrong with this chart.
>>65872511
You're helpful.
>>65872531
he's right though, we make one of these every other week and none have ever stuck. /mu/ will be stuck in 2013 forever
>>65872600
Someone can add this one to the wiki once it's finished.
>>65872586
Bitches Brew (well in my top three favorite jazz albums) isn't the best choice because it's 90 minutes long and jazz fusion, not really the best place to start for someone looking to get into jazz.
every time we come up with a /mu/core chart its still stuck on the same fucking era of music, almost all of its 20 years old, or more, the original chart did that because when they first made the, `99 was only 10 years past, its 2016 and we barely can get people to put in something from beyond 2007 on a list of things, or get rid of shit that mostly isnt discussed here anymore
>>65872645
>Someone else can add this one to the wiki once it's finished
this kind of attitude is why the charts will never stick
I spent a whole day making this chart
It's not worth making a /mu/core chart
Just stick to NMH, Kid A, MPP, and Loveless. That's /mu/core. Everything else is debateable.
>>65872708
fuck i posted the wrong chart
this is the one I made >>65872321
>>65872501
I wouldn't really call this a "2010s /mu/-core" chart as much as an AOTD poll, especially since this will change as soon as the next big album gets released
Still interesting I guess, though
Not a lot of surprises at the top
>>65872708
>MPP
>undebatable /mu/core
>not STGSTV
Update #3 - Added another row, TMS is on the chart again
>>65872501
Starting to look better now, here's the update
>>65872795
bro I did literally this exact same thing a couple of weeks ago with this chart >>65872321
Trust me, it's not worth the time or effort. Just forget it.
>>65872759
Oh hey dude. I was the other dude in those threads. It's waste of time to do this shit. People won't settle for fucking anything.
>>65872795
This looks pretty good.
>>65872708
MBDTF for hip hop too but yeah, there isn't much reason for stuff beyond this
anything more is just pandering to /mu/'s autistic tendency to want to make charts for everything including their favorite albums
>>65872824
Yeah completely agreed.
>>65872795
listen to this guy >>65872819 man. You're probably going to arrive to the same conclusions as we did.
>Where's X?!
>Why did you put X?
>Why did you take out X?
Believe me.
>>65872795
Seems pretty good. I still think TPAB is more /mu/core at this point than TMS and the TMR should be main /mu/core, but I'm happy with this.
>>65872818
Interesting, I didn't expect Bottomless Pit to be above AMSP
>>65872857
unless you want to kills some time. On that case, go for it.
>>65872818
missing twin fantasy, and i don't think any 2016 stuff should be on here.
also
>tim hecker
>2 beach house albums
>>65872795
I'd listen to
>>65872819
>>65872824
>>65872857
It looks good anyway, very accurate how it is.
>>65871871
These are /mu/'s babies right here. Popularity can be attributed partially to us. Exuma is basically a placeholder.
>>65872842
no, more like everything else is the ghost of /mu/ community haunting this place, people havent agreed on anything coherent in a group project since 2013, and you can clearly see it in every chart for /mu/core since the most recent album ALWAYS is tms
>>65870913
Kek, I made the thread that started this cancer, this chart basically sums up the votes without the "flavor of the month" shit, Talking Heads didn't come up as much though, and Animals was much more popular 2bh
>>65872890
you're kidding yourself if you think csh is better than beach house or hecker
>>65872911
youre as diluted as beach house sounds if you think theyre actually good
>>65872911
it's not a question of quality, it's how discussed on /mu/ they are you moron.
as much as everyone hates it, car seat is discussed more than either of those two
this is the most common mistake people make with /mu/core
>>65872939
See >>65872765
I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a "favorites from 2010-2016" chart or a legitimate offshoot of /mu/core
regardless I just picked favorites but whatever, most of them line up pretty well
also where'd your trip go?
>>65873022
desu i'm just using his name so if he comes in here he can go full ragechild
>>65872586
>implying all of those aren't discussed here
>>65873022
time exists past 2010 dammit, were over halfway through the decade, ill concede that putting things on from 2015 and 2016 is too early to tell, but fuck you if you dont think we should add things from 2010-2014
shit keeps moving, dont get stuck in the past, or you end up like parody of hip music listening/rolling stone magazine, jerking off over my bloody valentine in 2025 shitting on everyone for trying to claim people discuss something else more, and should be represented on a chart of what people in the community love
at this point most all of the /mu/core made from 2006 and before, is literally or almost canon classic, and doesnt have a singular community talking about it like deathconsciousness has.
remain in light has barely that much actual discussion on this board, we all know its a "/mu/core' album because its almost 40 fucking years old and considered and usually agreed to be one of the best albums of all time
>>65873162
I'm not sure if you're upset he's making an AOTD chart or not
>>65872818
>no CHVRCHES
>no grimes
>no taylor
kek, I always knew it was a vocal minority of faggots
>>65873247
>'why aren't my waifus in here'
>>65873197
im upset that there is a need to make a separate chart called aotd when that shit is literally going to be the current /mu/core on a chart that says "well its /mu/core but not" its stupid. /mu/core changes and evolves man, new people come and go. and pretty much most of what /mu/core is discussed about is just the new era of classic albums being jerked off over
im annoyed at how stubborn to add in new things this place is, this place acts like your uncle who thinks shit stopped existing beyond 1984 and the new stuff is just a fad and van halen is THE LAST good music group ever
>>65873283
Montie, isn't it past your bed-time
>>65872795
So is this the final or are there any suggestions?
What do you think of Paranoid in sub /mu/core?
>>65873352
Not really discussed all that much here, and if there had to be a Sabbath album here it would probably be Master of Reality.
>>65873342
I don't really listen to Joana, but shouldn't 'Ys' be there instead?
>>65873339
too bad i'm not him :^)
>>65873393
HOOM has gotten more popular recently
>>65873396
I love your scheme
>>65873390
Good point, it's even a better album than Paranoid. I just suggested it as it's their most well known album.
>>65872795
Good enough, still think sing to go should be replaced with TPAB, but in fine with it and one of the mods should add it to the sticky.
>>65873419
Oh and I think Pinkerton should be given a chance in there.
Update on the '10s chart
Nothing all that surprising desu aside from Sleep Cycle holding out and Vulnicura
http://www.rkursem.com/poll/view.php?id=d739fe9d4a2bede0d
Poll above for those who need to voice
>>65873462
2016 albums definitely should not be on this list. I'd say leave 2015 off too. It's too soon to be included in a "best of the decade" list
>>65871965
>>65871965
>death grips
>black people music
>he actually thinks there's black people that enjoy that trash
lmaoing at your life
>>65873542
I was honestly debating this, but leaving it as a "first half of 2010s" thing wouldn't be bad probably
Any thoughts on removing 2016 releases?
>>65873652
It's a popular opinion list, I don't see why removing 2016 albums would be that valuable. It's not like we're going to get a good 10's list until after the decade is over anyway, so I say keep them.
>>65873462
absolutely no one talks about mbv
>>65870913
As much as it pains me to say this, I think it's time we add Sunbather in there
OP here, going to bed. Will check back in the morning and post the final here and on the wiki.
>>65873725
Sunbather is a good album, passing the whole "le hipster album xD"
>>65871918
Dudeman I don't like death grips either but people have been discussing it *regularly* for the past 5 years
>>65873462
Wtf is MBV doing there while Loveless isn't even on the chart?
>>65873768
It's entirely unremarkable and that's what bothers me.
>>65873783
No shit. I don't like them at all yet I ended up knowing the names and covers for their albums there are so many threads about it
>>65873807
because loveless wasnt made this decade
>>65870913
Meddle is 10x more mu/core than Animals, nobody ever posts about Animals.
>>65873703
yeah drop 2016 shit, too soon
>>65873807
You're an idiot
>>65873877
Can we at least agree to keep Blackstar up there?
>>65873877
I didn't say that, I said they should keep it. (My statement was probably not written in the best way though)
>>65873835
You're right, I'll replace it in the final when I wake up tomorrow
>>65873941
i guess, its an important album no matter what we do
>>65873943
still too soon
>>65873993
I'm surprised you didn't give up! Good job;
>>65873994
It's not like we can't just make another chart down the road. It's not the end of the world if some 2016 albums are there.
>>65874042
its not, just giving my input since someone asked about it
>>65873994
>>65873943
>>65873941
Yeah honestly the fact that the year's not over and something might come out in the second half of 2016 that might be overwhelmingly loved just makes it feel too open ended
Also this way it can be a "first half of the decade" chart or something, idk
>>65873462
Holy shit every Death Grips album
>>65874132
In doing this we also made an inadvertent /dg/ ranking apparently
>The Money Store
>The Powers That B
>Exmilitary
>Bottomless Pit
>No Love Deep Web
>Government Plates
helps that the band's only existed since 2011 too
>>65874132
they are one of the most prolific and quality groups of the decade, with their own sound and already iconic artwork and public attention
makes sense
>>65874174
neat i suppose
/MU/CORE CANNOT BE CHANGED.
SUMMERFAGS, PLEASE AN HERO.
>>65874078
The poll had stagnated enough so I managed to throw together another collage without any 2016 releases
Also for a board that claims to hate Tame Impala and Beach House you sure do love Tame Impala and Beach House
>>65874370
it changes over time dumbass
/mu/core didn't just appear the moment the board was created
>>65874370
>/MU/CORE CANNOT BE CHANGED.
Yes it can. Example: no one talks about filosofem anymore.
>>65874370
go back to your wilco records and wes anderson movies, times change nu-dad
>>65873462
>No Ujubasajuba
I'm dissapointed
>>65874399
>6/10 of the top albums are rap
Come the fuck on, have MBDTF, one Kendrick, and one DG in there, the rest can go to the lower tiers
>>65874399
RTJ is objectively better than RTJ2
>>65870975
I can name you 10 albums that I have seen posted more than cardiacs the 3 years I've been on /mu/
>>65874533
>>65874536
>>65874585
do your part to change it and quit whining about it then you spergs
http://www.rkursem.com/poll/view.php?id=d739fe9d4a2bede0d
>>65874603
I can too, there are over 15 of them on the chart
So what
>>65874603
I'm sure you can, that's why they're sub-/mu/core and not proper /mu/core.
