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General to post and discuss Classical music.
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classical music is almost as bad as jazz
fuck off
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>>63359193
heh
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>>63359193
please be b8
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>>63359193
A poor bait. You got a reaction image out of me, at least.
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What other music is like Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D Minor

I thought I hated classical but this is rad
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>>63359279
jazz
in terms of them both being shit
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>>63359279
Just look up some more of Bach's fugues because Bach is fantastic
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Who do you prefer to listen to for Chopin? Top 3 list
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>>63359193
>Classical music is almost as bad as jazz. Fuck off.
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Why the FUCK are Medieval and Renaissance songs so good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyzpYmszYZ4
Link related
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>>63359279
Bach's Goldberg Variations is pretty good.
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>>63359193
first post best post
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>>63359343
Pollini.
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>>63359357
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xERitvFYpAk
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>>63359300
>>63359193
why are you so desperate to make /mu/ an even shittier board

hang yourself
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>>63359478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1v3fJSn-oPo
Thanks senpai. I'll add that to my Pre-Baroque playlist.
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>>63359568
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>>63359579
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjpFi9bn1do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei4XsvrbTPM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv3ivj7wmUY
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lmao page 3
nice thread, nerds
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>>63359357
Damn that is really good
All this obscure old music actually gives me a reason to buy CDs
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>>63359761
>>63359836
Great shiteposting. Can we get back to talking Classical now?
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>>63359193
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>>63359568
By hiding in a general you do more to reduce the overall quality of this board more than grimposters could ever hope.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmGWzVuR3qU
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I'm back for more choral recs, if you can offer any.
inb4 the chart
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>>63360167
if you want more 20th century stuff check out schnittke's Nagasaki oratorio, Requiem and Choral Concerto
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>this thread
Further proof that topicless /classical/ threads are the worst.
>>63360167
Bartok's Cantata Profana
Brahms' & Verdi's Requiems.
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>>63360158
bullshit fuck you the generals constantly produce some of the most interesting and on topic discussion there is on /mu/ kill yourself
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>>63360167
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>>63360273
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>>63360228
>topic less
That's not the problem. The first response is literally bait.
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>>63359357
>>63359478
Speaking of medieval music, which one do you guys prefer - Orff's Carmina Burana or the original?
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>>63360455
They're both better for different reasons, although Orff's is memed into oblivion,
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>>63359193
Neither are bad.

>>63360158
>hiding
>in a general

What? I don't even know what that's supposed to entail. /classical/ is niche, so everyone pools into one single productive thread. There should only be one at any given time, and all the people that know their shit can pool their knowledge.
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>>63360256
But see they are contained within the generals, creating a void to inevitably be filled with the latest 'lavren just said something msandrist' thread or worse "but this is a 3x3 1 month thread that one is a 3x3 7 days thread".
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>>63360640
I wouldn't expect you to know how an imageboard works.
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>>63360674

People shouldn't be so retarded that they can't just "ctrl f" the catalog and find the thread.

Every good board has at least one good generally that supplies consistent quality and content. /classical/ should try and realize that level of quality imo.

Sure, there's a "void" to it, but if you don't want pure cancer on /mu/ just fucking filter it. There simply aren't enough people interested in the genre or open to learning about it to be able to maintain 4 lack luster shit-post filled threads.

This is more economical.
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>>63360789
Can't you like learn how an imageboard works instead of defending your reddit ideals where they don't belong?
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>>63360827
>He's wrong
>Therefore reddit

Flawless reasoning there anon. How about you just explain your argument?

"How an imageboard works" is entirely irrelevant. General threads are clearly part of 4chan, and even within /mu/ itself. So imageboards like 4chan CLEARLY "work" with the concept of a general thread.

So what you REALLY mean is "how imageboards are SUPPOSED to work".

Supposed here meaning whatever nebulous rationalization you come up with.

Thanks for helping bump the thread though m8!
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>>63360827
The doofus has a point. No matter how desirable it is to consign the pop trash on the board into one general thread, and populate the rest of the board with specific art music threads, there just isn't enough posters well versed in the material to keep enough content going. /lit/ can do it because they're much slower and everyone knows how to read so the gap between art literature and populist trash isn't as insurmountable without specialist training.
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>>63360925
I mean I could have been reaching before with the reddit thing but this post sealed it. /classical/ is officially a reddit thread. Thank you fellows for discrediting 500 years of musical evolution because you couldn't for one second not post with a tripcode.
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>>63360975
>/lit/ can do it
>implying 90% of threads aren't genre fiction and >tfw no gf
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>>63361048
He's an anonymous poster in the /classical/ general on /mu/, do you really expect him to know the difference between literature and genre fiction?
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>>63361022
Oh man that's rich.

As much as I enjoy harping on the "Le REDDIT! XD" posts on 4chan the only thing more pathetic than some who posts on online forums in their spare time is someone who takes it so seriously that they actually have rivalries.

Contemplate that for a moment. Its embarrassing as fuck. A grown man that's irked by people NOT shit posting and memeing constantly across a board otherwise devoid of meaningful discussion besides irritated argumentation.
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>>63361168
>>63361072
>>63361048
Nobody fucking cares, Jesus Christ talk about classical music or kill yourselfs
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>>63361168
Please, stop replying to him. He's a troll.
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>>63361168
You spend all this time slipping insubstantial jabs at my character into an "I'm smart" style post, and I all I have to say is "If you don't like it then leave". Contemplate that, bitch.
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>>63361213
Which composer/ interpreter did you listen to last?
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As i said on the previous classic music thread that was hanging arround earlier, i'm really into this record lately: http://www.carpediem-records.de/en/vox-cosmica
It's music from a female composer named Hildegard von Bingen who lived on the 11th or 12th century. Really amazing music. I'm glad my father bought this cd.
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>>63361245
Perotin, Hillard Ensemble.
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>>63361279
Noice. I enjoy the use of polyphony. As far as medieval goes, I like Hildegard, de Mauchat and the Carmina Burana.
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>>63361048
>four (4) genre fiction (Douglas Adams, Harry Potter, Stephen King, Star Wars) threads out of 150 in the catalog
>90% genre fiction
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>>63361388
Let's not talk about /lit/. I go there from time to time but not as much. That board is doing very poorly lately.
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Shittiest /classical/ thread ever. I'll make it next time. Don't let this happen again.
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>>63361251
>memegard von memen
Try pic related for good gothic music.
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what's the preferred recording(s) for Chopin's piano concertos?
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>>63361457
It was taken over by bait.
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>>63360191
>>63360228
Thanks.
>>63360273
Thanks. Do you have a link?
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>>63361647
https://u.teknik.io/POzFU.zip
It's not tagged though.
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>>63361906
Thanks.
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RIP /classical/

>63359193
>Favorite artist is probably kanye west
Jazz and Classical are great, you just haven't grown out of popular music yet (and may never).
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>>63362745
Fuck off poly.
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>>63362745
where can I find a download for that Tchaik?
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>>63359193
I would have to agree that Classical is objectively the best type of music and that Jazz is probably a close second.
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>>63363037
https://mega.co.nz/#F!iFJSzBiJ!mbznSzmdokhvZlo6AHpwNg
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>>63361494
depends on your needs really.

for example, >>63361588 is good, but maybe you dont like historical recordings (concerto 2 is heavily acetate-noisy too).
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>>63359193
wew
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I want something real desperate, gloomy and with no hope of happy ending. Something like Shostakovich 12th String Quartet or 14th & 13th Symphony. Did Bartok compose anything like it?
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>>63359691
Is that last one Byzantine secular music?
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>>63363267
Listen to Schubert
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>>63361022
>you couldn't for one second not post with a tripcode.
you don't even know how /mu/ works.
how the fuck am i supposed to think you know how imageboards work?
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>>63363247
I'm still at the starting point when it comes to Chopin (and classical music in general really) but I have been really interested in the piano concerto as a form in general lately. So what I'd be looking for would be something where those dynamics really shine.
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>>63363267
>no hope of a happy ending
Rigoletto
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>>63363333
>I have been really interested in the piano concerto as a form in general lately
Listen to Mozart
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>>63363279
Which pieces exactly? I don't know I thought Symph No. 5 was bright.

>>63363411
I'll look it up, thanks.
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>>63363461
Winterreise, Schwanengesang, last 2 quartets, piano trios.
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>>63363333
>piano concerto as a form
as a form, chopins concertos are more like piano sonatas accompanied by orchestra. if you want recordings in modern sound i recommend argerich. hofmann is good for histroical 2fer, but theres a lot of good individual recordings out there too (novaes, cortot, lipatti, neuhaus)

>>63363267
berg. wozzeck is utterly depressing.
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>>63363482
That's perfect I'll have a listen.

>>63363483
I've in fact always wanted to listen to Berg, but it was hard to concentrate on Lulu, even though I could feel how great the piece was. Any recommendation for particular pieces other than wozzeck? Is his violin concerto that good? Because I really don't like violin concertos in general somehow. I'm a cellist by the way.
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>>63363575
violin concerto is one of the greatest written, but i would say its not anything dark, merely gloomy like his piano sonata. it ends on a high note. he also has many songs you may be interested in, like the altenberg lieder.

his lyric suite and chamber concerto are well known too, but formally much denser compared to the works discussed thus far.
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>>63363633
pieces sound fantastic. I'll definitely give a go some day, out from your recommendations so far. are there any depressing pieces he wrote that you would also recommend other than operas?
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>>63363267
Bartok's music for string percussion and celesta, and his 4th string quartet

And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-cUkR1Tu8
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>>63363671
not really. you can try webern for more, start with op. 6 (written after his mother passed away) and branch from there (his body of works is small and famously concise)
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>>63363267
Galina Ustvolskaya
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>>63363768
Sounds amazing. Thank you for everything.

>>63363755
I love both peices by Bartok, whereas I'm not sure there utterly "depressed" as I want. Surely they're both amazing and intense. I think I'll listen to it now actually and see if it can change my opinion. Thanks.

>>63363906
I've never heard of her before in fact! Thank you for recommendation.
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>>63359193
but i'm already here
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>>63364004
try something composed by a computer AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzrcoqpnZqA
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morton feldman is my shit. what are some good recordings?
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>>63364401
Go fuck yourself
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>>63364450
but he's my shit
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>>63364401
tfw you will never shit morton feldman
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>>63364401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKcrmxA-7JI
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i dont really listen to classical but Debussy's Clair De Lune really fucks with my emotions somehow
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>>63364578
thanks dude
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>>63364592
do cathedrale engloutie next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAVyKDDsM3s
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>>63359343
Zimerman, Rubinstein and Moravec.

Pollini's etudes are awesome though.
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>>63363333
Chopin's one of my favourite composers but his concertos are kinda bleh imo. As already said, check out Mozart's.
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>the start of Brahms "Hungarian Dance #5"

I really, REALLY love this fucker
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>>63362987
Haven't listened to the bottom ones but the others are good.

Ain't nuthin wrong with poly.

>>63361245
Gergiev Prokofiev Symphony 7

Good shit. Although I think Gergiev is kinda a weirdo

>>63361526
this.

>>63363267


>>63363482
Winterreise is great.

>>63364949
Satie, Debussy's solo piano works, and the nocturnes of Chopin are all very accessible /classical/ pieces.

>>63367014
They're all pretty fucking great. I love the violin transcriptions too. Dvorak's slavonic dances are pretty good too.

>Be German
>Write hungarian dances
>Be Czech
>Write Slavonic dances
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Which Opera is their best and why is it Iolanthe?
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>>63359343
arrau, zimerman, cortot
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>>63363267
tchai's 6th
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>>63367634
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW_t7HNJI2c
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>>63367692
I swear I've heard that main theme somewhere else, though I'm not sure where.
I think it's from one of Mozart's symphonies, can anyone else confirm?
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>>63359279
Bach's toccata, adagio and fugue in c minor, BTW 564 is really cool, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtRA5aRLyS0

Nothing beats Virgil Fox however.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_lcWj4DZWI

On an unrelated note: Best girl and best piano concerto coming through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGOihjqO9w
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>>63363267
How modernist do you want to go?
Late romantic, there's Rachmaninoff. See prelude no. 10, b minor, opus 33.
Modernist there's a lot to take from, everyone was lunatic after the world wars.
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>>63367523

It has to probably be one of the ones that consciously makes fun of somebody more talented at making music than Sullivan, because whenever he was earnest in writing music, it's invariably shit

So yeah, Iolanthe is a good one for making fun of Wagner.
Pirates of Penzance is the other competitor

And I sort of like the Gondoliers in spite of myself
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>>63367931
not the anon who you were replying to, but Rachmaninoff is great
prelude in c# minor (bells of moscow) is my favourite
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>>63368482

>Rachmaninov's Prelude in C-Sharp minor: there are passages familiar from pieces for children and from school concerts which are marked 'grandioso'. Tiny hands execute the gesture of strength. Children imitate grown-ups, perhaps even the virtuosi who have been swotting up their Liszt. It sounds tremendously difficult and at all events very loud. But it is comfortingly easy to play: the child knows that the colossal effect cannot misfire and that he is assured in advance of a triumph that has been achieved without effort. The Prelude preserves this triumph for infantile adults. It owes its popularity to listeners who identify with the performer. They know they could do it just as well. As they marvel at the power which forces the four-stave systems into a fourfold fortissimo, they marvel at themselves. In their mind's eye they can see their lion's paws growing. Psychoanalysts have discovered the Nero complex. This Prelude gratifies this from the outset. It allows the megalomaniac free play, without pinning him down to anything definite. No one can blame the thundering chords for turning the dilettante who churns them out so immaculately into a conqueror of the world. Risk and security are fused in one of the boldest instances of musical daydreaming ever created. The excitement rises to fever-pitch if, as a bonus, the piece is played in a three-quarters darkened hall. The sombre mood of destruction which the Slav idiom of the piece simultaneously threatens and glorifies, arouses in ever listener the certainty that in the foreboding gloom he too could easily smash the piano to pieces. He is assisted in this not just by the conjunction of the heavy artillery and easy playability, but by the design of the entire colossal bagatelle. Almost all tonal music, especially that of the post-Classical era, provides the contemporary amateur with the opportunity to make his own gesture of power in the final cadence. It is an affirmation as such, whatever has gone before
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>>63368601

>Hence the ritardando. Its function is to underline and its strength enables the performer to measure his own by restraining himself and reining in his own impetuosity. Even if this gestural meaning of the final cadence may only date from the Romantic movement, it can be said that in the course of its post-Romantic debasement Rachmaninov emptied it of all content, freed it of every genuine musical event and threw it on to the market as a commodity.

>The Prelude is just one long final cadence; it could be described as a single, long, insatiable, repetitive ritardando. It parodies the passacaglia progression by taking three cadence-forming bass notes which can conclude the theme of a passacaglia, and presents them, as it were, as a passacaglia theme. Repetition insists on the point with ruthless self-advertisement. The phrases are so short-winded that even the most insensitive ear can scarcely go wrong. Moreover, the motif-forming melodic counter-voice merely paraphrases the cadence. All the music does say is: so be it. The fact we don't know what it is to be is what constitutes the essence of its Russian mysticism. In the middle it breaks into a run with a cheap series of triplets and creates the illusion of fluent virtuosity. But in vain. It is only the motivic counter-voice. Fate remains fate and insists that things are so and not otherwise. And when at the end it explodes with all the primal force of conventionality, it can be assured of the gratitude of all those who have always known this and could see it coming.
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>>63368601
>>63368610
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>>63363267
Mussorgsky Songs and Dances of Death
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>>63368601
>>63368610

Adorno was really anti-fun, wasn't he?
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>>63368761
>implying
Haydn is fun, Mozart is fun. Rach is just trash.
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>>63368610
>>63368601
Tad cynical, but that's a pretty damn great analysis.

But those qualities are still remain appealing. He can debunk its artistic and virtuousic qualities, but it remains a really fun affirmation of the feeling of power and decadance imo.

The prelude really isn't one of Rach's best anyways though, just popular. I think that his 2nd symphony, the variations on paganini and the piano concertos are still a lot of fun.
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>>63359179
What are some good Classical Music where it's only the piano playing? Something along the lines of Chopin's Nocturne and Debussy's Clair de Lune
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>>63372144
Checked

Also, posting Nielsen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQi08boz6xg
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>>63359383
Glenn Gould's version from 1981 is still the best.
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>Sorabji lived in Corfe Castle for the last 30 years of his life

huh, used to visit that place all the time. Pretty cool
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>>63373506

Tangentially

>tfw no one knows Chisholm's works
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>>63372832
I love it, too, but I you have to acknowledge how weird a recording it is.

The singing is one thing, but his actual playing is so stylized to sound like clockwork that you might think passages of it were recorded by player piano.
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>>63372832
>>63373626
I think Gould was the absolute best at polyphonic voicing, its sounds entirely independent to my ear.

I certainly prefer the eighties recording over the fifties one. It sounds a bit more reserved mature to me. There are other great recordings of course, but I get the feeling that Gould really expressed the music on a personal level more than other pianists. Guy loved Bach that's for sure.
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>>63372144
>nobody recognizes this meme anymore
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>>63368761
even rachmaninoff grew to hate the attention around his memelude
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>>63362745
why do the majority of classical albums have shitty art aside from the odd few like bottom right
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I want to get into more classical but everytime I try the music just reminds me of old jrpgs and I feel like a massive pleb and just go listen to other genres instead
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>>63359279
Stokowski performing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d45-m_1ghVM
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>>63375634
>jrpgs
No anon you are a massive pleb.
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I'm really bummed out about how classical music is dying and future generations will never know the genius Mozart
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>>63359179
ill be hearing all the songs that have been recommended. i dont know what the discussions have been, but would like suggestions on symphonies similar to Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata. Mainly the doom and gloom aspect. i hear the local classical radio station, but dont know any names. what other music genres do you listen too?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU

thank you
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>>63375612
Eh. I guess its a niche market. The people that are going to tend to buy classical already know what they're buying whether primarily by content or by the performers.

You won't find so many impulsive classical listeners who will buy an album just off of some neat cover art and interesting pieces. Its easier to convince people of that with other albums.

>>63376496
Mahler's 9th is pretty angsty. The first movement anyways.
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>>63359279
dude, that was crazy. adding it to my playlist.

>>63376577
never heard of Mahler, thanks anon. its an hour and a half long so dont know how much ill hear right now, haha. theres a lot to catch up on
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some /classical/-fag help me with these grimes waifufags that claim that grimes is better than mozart i can't fucking stand this
>>63376975
>>63377205
>>63376753
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>>63359193
Behold those edges, here's your reply. Go tell mom before bump limit.
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>>63377262
waste of time & energy.
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>>63363267
A day late, but

Depressing music isn't really Bartók's MO. the 2nd and 6th quartets come to mind, but they both experience a variety of emotions before devolving into a hopeless despair
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>mozarts entire discography.

lol.
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>>63363267
Also, the first string quartet (1909) and violin/piano sonata (1921) (both testaments to our composer's romantic autism) open with characteristic gloom (although they pick up in energy by the third movement). The second movement of the latter is particularly bleak. The two sets of 5 songs (op. 15 and 16, 1916) are moody and betray the influence of Schoenberg. You also might want to check out his 4 dirges (1910) and 2 elegies (1909) for solo piano, as well as his improvisations on Romanian folk tunes (1920) and 3 etudes (1918). finally, although the great Divertimento (1939) is generally a "lighter" piece, the middle movement is filled with angst.
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>>63378195
>improvisations on Romanian folk tunes
Hungarian peasant songs. Forgive me, Béla
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>>63377262
Why do you care? Mozart after centuries is still played, enjoyed, recorded. Grimes will be forgotten in 10 years(and perhaps i'm being very nice). Those are just kids.
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Was he truly one of the best composers of all times?
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>>63367523
I prefer The Mikado. It has the most interesting story of their Operas and the best arias (both by Koko).
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Can someone recommend me some enjoyable classical music pieces? I'm expanding my library but every time I want to download something I forgot the names of the well-known ones.
What I already have & loved:
>Guglielmo Tell
>Saint-Saëns - Symphony No. 3
>Griegs Morning & Mountain King
>Bachs Toccata and Fugue
>Mozart Der Hoelle Rache kocht in meinem Herzen
>Moonlight Sonata

Feel free to recommend obvious popular ones, I have a terrible memory for names.
Many thanks in advance.
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>>63375612
>shitty art
It's just the performers sitting there. Not good and not bad.
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>>63363072
What's third place? I'm guessing Progressive Rock? Hahaha. There is no "best". Everything has it's place. No other music can control a crowds emotion to adrenaline as good as death metal, for example. Same with classical, some intricate beauties can only be felt with a piano concerto in the major scale.
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>>63379330
Try Grieg - Peer Gynt Prelude
Carmen - overture - Bizet
Die Moritat von Mackie Messer - Weill
Boccherini - Minuetto
Those are some easily recognizable ones.
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>>63379433
In general too many people are thinking binary these days, with things like "best".
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>>63379330
Listen to Mozart
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>>63380031
>>63379450
Cheers
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>>63368382
Lost Chord is nice.

I can't say I agree about Pirates though, it's just not as exciting to me as say Pinafore or even the Grand Duke. Gondoliers has good music but the libretto is weak as hell, it should have just been all music like TBJ because it seemed as if Gilbert was better with rhymes than wit.

>>63379306
Mikado's great and so is Koko as one of the few really sincere feeling comedic characters, but I think musically it falls at certain points (The Sun Whose Rays is more boring than beautiful, and after the Mikado's solo the music gets strangely depressing until Koko and Katisha have their duet)

I would say the one with the most fun music is Patience, which never gets enough credit though I personally think it to be one of the strongest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD2w6uAQA_k
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Is there a layman's terms guide to composers?
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>>63359179
Anyone like the Pilgrim's Chorus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDdb65l-49E
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>>63376777
It was probably a bit cavalier of me. I like him too much even when he's note entirely suitable.

The beginning of Mahler's 3rd might fight yours better, but perhaps the best symphonic equivalent would be Berlioz's symphony fantastique.

>>63379330
Quartets:
>late beethoven
>Grieg
>ravel
>debussy
>Dvorak's american
>Mozart's dissonance
>Schubert's death and the maiden
>Barber's quartet
>Sibelius' quartet
>Brahm's sextet
>Mendelssohn's trio
>Shostakovich 3/7/8/15 quartets
>Mahler quartet 1st movement.

Those are all really good chamber music.

>>63382078
I really don't care for Bruckner. His 7th is good, and he has a few other good pieces or moments, but I'd definitely prefer someone like Sibelius, Prokofiev, Schoenberg, or Strauss over him.
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>>63382239
>>late beethoven
>>Grieg
>>ravel
>>debussy
>>Dvorak's american
>>Mozart's dissonance
>>Schubert's death and the maiden
>>Barber's quartet
>>Sibelius' quartet
>>Brahm's sextet
>>Mendelssohn's trio
>>Shostakovich 3/7/8/15 quartets
>>Mahler quartet 1st movement.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>no bartok quartets
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>>63382239
>only the Dissonance quartet
fptmiu
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>>63359279
Pretty much any baroque organ music.

>>63363267
>Ravel
Miroirs - Oiseaux Tristes
>Beethoven
Piano Sonata #23
>William Duckworth
Time Curve Prelude #6
>John Cage
Sonata XII
>Galina Ustvolskaya
Piano Sonata #6
Piano Sonata #5
>Prokofiev
Piano Concerto #2 - I
>Liszt
Totentanz
>Ernest Bloch
Piano Sonata
>Einojuhani Rautavaara
Piano Concerto #2
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I don't listen to classical that much, but my University had an almost one month festival for free and I went there three times. Damn, some pieces were really good. Of those I remember, Felix's Violin concert number 2, Brahm's German requiem, and Dvorak's New World Symphony were all fantastic.
>mfw this thread
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>>63383761
>mfwmf was killed
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>>63359193
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>>63367852
Pretty sure you are hearing the Fur Elise or Oh Canada. This thing is just kind of a jumble of crap though
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>>63367852
Sorry meant to say La Marseillaise not Fur Elise
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>>63379204
Yep, Can't think of another 20th century composer that's on the same level as Debussy, Ravel, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Bartok, and Ives.

>those concertos
>those string quartets
>that A Symphony for Three Orchestras
>those piano works

He truly belongs with the ranks of the 20th century giants

>>63372115
>clair de lune

Superior femme core incoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG2YQSXEJ4I

I find it hard to understand why this isn't more popular than Clair de meme
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so where is the best place to find good mp3 recordings of shit?

specifically mahler
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>>63385158
>mp3
lol

Anyways use Rutracker
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>>63385174
>tfw listen to superior flac recordings, but have to settle for v1 to conserve space on my Ipod
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>>63385174
I'm on a mac and don't wanna bother with conversion and shit but thank you
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>>63385112
L'isle joyeuse is literally Debussy's best piano piece
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Guys rec me some recordings of heitor villa lobos, and the production is shit on this
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>>63385158
/classical/ mega links, blogs, what.cd, rutracker.
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>>63383239
The bartok quartets are GOAT tier but I can't remember which ones are my favorite and I didn't want to go to the trouble of relistening through them.

>>63383293
I am ashamed. I've only more recently got into Mozart. His divertimento and the haydn inspired quartets are all also very good.

>>63383761
Yeah. Classical music is pretty cheap and a great experience.

>>63385112
>dat impressionism
>dat fleeting diatonism / chromaticism

Normies don't appreciate.
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gofundme /wrfuypm4
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What is some good baroque stuff?
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>>63359193

Yeah, classical music prentious libcuck music.
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>>63386877
Monteverdi, Buxtehude, Schütz, Biber, Corelli, Purcell, Scarlatti, Lully, Marcello, Tartini, Zelenka.
And I assume you already know Bach, Handel, and Vivaldi.
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>>63386945
Locatelli too if you want memes that aren't memes anymore.
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I want to listen to more classical music.
The only piece I have in my library is Dvorak's Symphony No. 9, I enjoy it a lot but just haven't been compelled to try anything else. Anything you can rec me based on that?
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>>63385174
*tips fedora*
m'lossless
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>>63387183
Mahler symphonies 5 and 6. 1 and 2 are good too.
Holst - mars the bringer of war
other Dvorak symphonies (most are pretty good)
maybe Stravinsky's le sacre du printempts

mendelssohn is pretty good too, check out those piano concerti
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>>63387183
see >>63380031
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>Taking a history of classical music this semester
Lel. Not even a music major.
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>>63387317
Thanks lad
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>>63387455
you'll enjoy it. They're always a blast
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>>63387594
I'm nearly at the end of it. It's been amazing.
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>>63387183

Sibelius - 2, 5
Schubert - 8, 9
Bruckner - 4, 7, 8
Beethoven - 5, 6, 7
Schostakovich - 5
Mahler - 2, 6, 7
Tchaikovsky - 5, 6
Wagner - ouvertures and preludes
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Can anybody recommend classical pieces the evoke deep sadness/melancholy/despair and the like? Or even romance. I would really appreciate it. I feel like it's so hard to find pieces that really hit home. Most classical music I hear is happy or heroic and such.
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>>63387673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86KuiWS1Kj0
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>>63359179
I'VE FUCKING HAD IT. Stop with this STUPID fucking meme. Oh hahahaha it's so fucking funny, Mozart is alive ahahahaha- oh wait, it isn't fucking funny. Mozart is dead and this absolutely INSULTING meme needs to just DIE. How about you knuckle-draggers come up with an actually original meme for once instead of posting this one over and over and over??
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>>63387698
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just out of curiosity how many alt right anime twitter fags are in here
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>>63387673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_t9d7TBjHQ
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>>63387673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8as_BN5h5YQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1scluzlPz0&spfreload=10
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>>63387694
Haunting.
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>>63387698
welcome back
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>>63387673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y
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>>63387788
These were pretty good. Thank you.
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>>63359193
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>>63387922
have another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQsgE0L450
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>>63387971
Damn. This is great. I was looking for something More Romantic era and before.
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kill it
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>>63388014
Mahler is pretty good, and full of feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvXhyldUko
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>>63387673
not sure what you are looking for but try this on for size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMHHkwrMCI
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/was-glenn-gould-autistic/article765700/

Holy Christ that explains EVERYTHING
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>>63388609
>glenn gould was autistic
no fucking shit, you needed an article to tell you this?
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>>63388609
https://youtu.be/pL9YjM1BqgY?t=8m3s

>That one key smack
It's all autism. Everything he does.
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>>63359179
Hey, just listened to th 1962 Hans Knappertsbusch Parsifal and it was amazing :). What would you reccomend for T & I recordings? Listened to Karajan but wasn't wowed
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>>63368601
>>63368610
ruined my day
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Karajan's 1983 is the greatest version of Beethoven's 9th I've yet heard, really my only complaint is that he doesn't do the repeats in the main scherzo, he does in the trio though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lx1XKQAgNjw
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rec me obscure composers from the 18th and early 19th century
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bomp
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>>63388855
Kna has a Tristan/Isolde that is in boxy mono that you might like, featuring qt Braun and (iirc) Treptow. not a great fan of his Wagner though.
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>>63387673
Shostakovich quartet 15. That's one hell of a fucking depressing quartet.

Same with Shostakovich 1st violin concerto movement 3

Parts of Shostakovich's 5th symphony...

>>63387971
dis is good too

>>63388091
Mahler is great for your purposes, but find the right movements.

Mahler 6 mvt 3
Mahler 9 mvt 1/4
Mahler 5 mvt 4
mahler 4 mvt 3

Those are probably the best of them. Mahler 10's first movement, although its a bit less approachable.
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>>63367484
>>Be Czech
>>Write Slavonic dances

Czech republic is slav republic
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>>63392770
it used to be the capital province of the german empire though
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>>63393628
the ethnicity is slav, though, czech people speaks slav language
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>>63393628
Not really, it was occupied by the Nazis during WW2 (the Sudetenland most famously) and before WW1 it was a possession of the Austrian Crown, which while the royalty was German, the administration was not too nationalistic. So while there was a strong German presence in Bohemia (as the region was called), there was still a just as strong Czech presence as well.
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https://www.jamendo.com/track/232/ehma-pizzicato

Can any of yous recommend me compositors or specific works that sound like this track^?

Not necessarily classics.
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Mods are asleep post Palestrina's Hymns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAcS47K3Ees
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>>63387698
Further proof of this meme's underratedness.
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>>63390426
Luigi Cherubini (1760 - 1842) while not exactly obscure, is criminally underperformed today. Not many musicians I know, even in our local symphony, have heard of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW0REhS3mzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhPK-jznNTs
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>>63395561
Beethoven rated him as the best of his contemporaries
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>>63390426
Mozart
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>>63388609
Why are autistic people considered to be "bad" here, can someone explain please?
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>>63396583
gould is not considered bad.

kissin, who is just as much an autist, is considered bad by some. personally, i think he's a good pianist.
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>>63396583
Autism is actually a status symbol in /classical/.
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>>63396603
>gould is not considered bad.
honestly that depends on who you're talking to
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>>63396603
I still miss the point, why /mu/ thinks autists are bad. Just have no time to get all local micro fads.
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>>63396583
>Why are autistic people considered to be "bad" here, can someone explain please?
they aren't
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>>63396658
not so much hate for gould on this board as far as i can tell. (other than the justified hate or disgust for his mozart sonatas.)
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>>63396663
>I still miss the point

probably because you're autistic. we still like you though.
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>>63396684
>not so much hate for gould on this board as far as i can tell
well, he's just a very subjective performer. more so than most performers are.

i only really like most of his early stuff, for instance, and don't like a lot of the latter studio recordings he did.
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>>63396750
i love his bach keyboard concertos.
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>>63396684
I hate everything about him
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>>63396663
autism is a meme, it can be used as an insult but doesn't have to
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Somebody recommend me some high-quality musicals, please.
>inb4 Sondheim
>inb4 Bernstein
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>>63396663
Gould is only bad becuase he hums. Thats the only reason. If he didn't hum, he'd be a fine pianist. but he does, so I don't like him.
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>>63359193
yeah the smiths and gorrilaz are real music!!!!!!
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>>63396684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTZ33EVK3Ug

He fucking meme'd Mozart.
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>>63398218
pure genius
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>>63398266
>I want everything to sound like Bach
That's how autistic he was. He wanted everything to sound like the music of the master autist.
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>>63398218
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWFcbuOav3g

Jesus Christ.
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>>63397959
>Gould is only bad becuase he hums
His humming is much less of a problem than his playing.
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>>63390426
Hummel
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>>63397898
Shrek the musical
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>>63399125
Good taste
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>>63398381
>Can't properly play the original, so she reduces difficult passages
Why even bother with the fluff then
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>Beethoven's Eroica's first movement
hnngggg
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>>63359193
that didn't take long

>>63359357
Nice. I'm now scouring YouTube for more. Shit's delicious.
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>>63399250
Its a rachmaninoffian bastardization. Don't blame her.

I've heard her play Prokofiev's second piano concerto live. She's good. More than good enough for the turkish march.

Pure classicalfu desu senpai.
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>composers who didn't write string quartet(s)
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>>63401029
>Its a rachmaninoffian bastardization.
It's an altered version of Volodo's paraphase on Mozart's Turkish March. By the way, Rachmaninoff wouldn't ever write something like that or in the style of that.

>Don't blame her.
For what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8bd-2GGZeU

Bonus mode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn5lD0RO20I
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>>63401418
This offends me as a Mozart overrater
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