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Tired of the same old 'Human goes to Equestria to fuck his underage waifu' formula? Burnt out after reading that terrible Ember fic? Well, we've compiled the best of the worst in order to bring you our absolute average!
>FIMFiction Starter Kit (recommended fics):
Winners:
http://i.imgur.com/vuTA7EN.png
List of nominees by category:
http://mlp-fanfics.herokuapp.com/
>How do I write fanfiction?
Ezn’s guide - http://eznguide.neocities.org/
Politics and the English Language - http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/
Vhatug's tips for anatomically correct clop - http://pastebin.com/g4VpEg4f
>Can you pre-read my story?
Post it on Google Docs with inline comments enabled and give us a link. Keep in mind that we’re too lazy to review more than a few pages at once, and it may take some time for someone to respond.
>Reviews and riffs:
http://pastebin.com/u/notkickass222urmom
>Voiceguy's readings:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt68MpmvEketmqOdHncHI2w
Old thread: >>27131408
futapoo get
>>27176030Actual discussion get
>>27176046
Negative futaloo get.
>>27176046
>>27176049
>>27176060
never ever
>>27176169
Reverse day futaloo get.
fucking get already
It's never going to happen.
Now stop shitposting, we're already 8 posts into the thread.
>>27176323
no u
44444444444444444444444
CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNN
WHATEVER THREAD WE ARE
I BELIEVE
THAT SHITPOSTING
WILL GO OOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN
Futaloosinglesget
>>27176532
doesn't count, cheater
>2 hours passed
>old thread is still alive
huh
>tfw you realize that your writeoff submission turned out to be utter crap and you got so sidetracked that it can basically called a manifesto ;_;
Gotta restart it now.
>>27176744
Maybe you'll get the "most controversial" award.
>>27176757
I basically started writing about suicide. It's not that my views are even that controversial, it's bad because it is not very pony related.
>>27176772
Eh, stories tend to change as you write them. My entry has changed a lot from what I originally planned.
>it's bad because it is not very pony related.
As long as it can be argued that one of the characters could be rambling your manifesto, then you're in the clear.
Y'know, screw the writeoff, I'll write a completely unrelated story that has been done a million times before, but screw you, I haven't read them, so this is my own one.
>>27176772
>it's bad because it is not very pony related.
so just turn the main character into an effeminate cocksucking pegasus named rigid air and BAM pony related
>>27176851
>>27176853
I frequently write personal essays, and I enjoy writing them. Never would I even think of posing one of them as a characters inner ramblings, even if it was fitting.
It already is _technically_ pony related, it's mostly a BG pony pondering about her life, but the whole "Forbidden knowledge" thing is a tangent at this point, and honestly, you could swap the name and let it sit as original fiction, or even get rid of narration and let it stay as an essay.
I know people do worse, but goddamn, I messed up and I will just scrap it for the unrelated, mostly self-indulgent nonsense that it is.
>>27176856
I hate this meme so much
>>27176877
>he doesn't know how to italics
>>27176879
what meme? its a legitimate ponysona of an oversensitive cocksucker
>>27176900
it's not a legitimate ponysona though
>>27176913
>>27176900
This is non-discussion, non-drama and worst of all, it's non-interesting. It's also not funny. Talk about your Trixie headcanons or complain about the lackluster way the dragons are portrayed, just not this.
>>27176913
a ponification then
>>27176927
This is non-discussion, non-drama and worst of all, it's non-interesting. It's also not funny. Talk about your Trixie headcanons or complain about the lackluster way the dragons are portrayed, just not this.
So I was writing a story, and I realized that I named three separate characters the same name.
You people ever lose track of what you name your characters?
>>27176930
what?
>>27176927
>it's non-interesting.
lies. regi is always sort-of interesting
>non-drama
lies. regi is all about the drama
>Talk about your Trixie headcanons
trixie wouldnt let rigid air suck her cock
>>27176957
>trixie wouldnt let rigid air suck her cock
lies. regi is a hit with the futaladies
>>27176957
I just got the joke. It's amusing, actually, and a tad clever. Hell, if it had stopped quite some time ago, it would even be a bit funny.
It sure is a slow start for the thread.
>>27176947
No, but that's because I obsesively keep track of every aspect of my writing, even the small off-handed lines of dialogue that pay-off four chapters later but that no sane reader would notice because they're not as autistic as I am.
>>27176967
Thus, >>27176879
>>27176947
>You people ever lose track of what you name your characters?
remember where youre asking that.
we have people that create their own wikis to keep track of all the minor events and tiniest tidbits of information.
We have people that are so busy chronicling every last ort of information , history and backstory on every minute thing that they simply dont have enough time or energy left to actually write a story
so, no. we would never lose track of something so basic as names regardless of how minor they may be
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/324711/101-interesting-facts-about-draconequi
This was amusing. Short, silly, but amusing.
>>27177043
>we have people that create their own wikis to keep track of all the minor events and tiniest tidbits of information.
You talk as if that was complicated. It's literally just launching apache and opening your web browser.
Also not minor details, just rough outlines. No plan survives the battle field.
boop
>>27178102
>>27178103
Double bump
>>27178110
At the cost of double the post count, it guarantees the thread will take longer to reach page 9 again.
This skill is useful if the thread is slow, but effectively reduces the post limit, crippling faster threads.I just got an interesting idea for a game.
>>27178146
Bumper Threads: Bump the thread and keep it going.
Easy mode: Porn webm thread
Medium mode: YLYL thread
Hard mode: /fft/
>>27178159
*/fimfic/
Dante Must Die: Writefag's Guildlast I checked, their thread has been alive for 16 days with like 2-3 shitposts in between walls of bumps.
>>27178159
I was actually thinking more like, you also have to select a board (some move faster, some slower), a topic (some generate more interest than others), a good bait ("Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that...") and bump it at appropriate times, using appropriate skills (cheap skills will do the trick, but will lower the thread's quality, disencouraging people from posting) etc.
Now I really want to make this game.
>>27178211
Thread simulator 2016. We got our name.
>>27178226
Perfect.
>You will never have a life
>>27178827
Literally all she has to do is take a shower and brush her hair and she'd be drowning in semen.
>>27179063
But then she'd not be the Tomoko we love, Anon.
I think it's more of a social problem though. She could get laid, but barely speaks to any guy in three years.
Back when the Crystal Castle Library thing was just introduced, I wanted to make a story where Twilight feels melancholic due to the loss of Golden Oaks, and can't feel right at home in the eye-sore castle.
She visits her friends for suggestions. Pinkie Pie wants to throw a castle-warming party, Rarity wants to help her decorate, etc.
While she visits her friends, she notices some things around Ponyville. The common hall is in a bad state,A lot of kids have nowhere to be after school, and so on.
In the end Twilight would decide to repurpose some of the unused dozens of rooms for the rest of Ponyville to use.
Happy ending, morale about giving back to the community, etc.
>>27179300
That would be good. Definitely better than the castle episode we got instead. If you think that you can make it without seeming redundant with said episode and/or make it in an AU, I'd say go ahead, it is an idea that fits the show, and would be pretty comfy to read.
>>27179300
>>27179320
It'd basically be rewriting an episode, and that's never good
>>27179527
How would it be?
>>27179320
That's part of the reason I put that concept in the backburner. It felt too similar already to what we got in S5. En though I would have gone for a more drab, melancholic approach with a happier ending, but still, at the time it felt too similar.
I haven't outright discarded the idea, though. If I can come up with a better spin, I'd still do it.
Due to a CMC incident, Rarity's boutique collapses unto itself, and the cost of repairs for the whole building is... a bit pricey. Solutions for Rarity's problem is a tough thing to come by. Ideas from her friends are quickly shot down or just don't work out. Meanwhile, Rainbow Dash has been playing this new game that's become a phenomenon across Equestria. When it's first major tournament is announced, Rainbow quickly finds that the prize money for first place would be enough to cover the costs of Rarity's boutique, as well as some for her left over. With options for Rarity running out, Rainbow quickly presents this competition as a last ditch option.
It's just an idea that's been floating in my head for awhile now. But I'm not quite sure if I should do something about it,
>>27179840
I like the idea, but what would this "game" be?
>>27179900
I'm a little undecided at that part. I wanted it to be a game where all of the main 6 can be involved in some way. So at first I was thinking maybe League of Legends, since every pro teams needs at least 5 players and a coach. Then I started to wonder how a keyboard/mouse thing would work with them being ponies. Then I was thinking about making them humanized or even anthro, but I'm still holding reservations on that.
Then I was thinking dodgeball, but that idea was just because there's a movie involving dodgeball that's similar to what I was thinking about.
So yeah, a little undecided.
>>27180346
Make them playDnD
>>27180346
Please not video games.Kaiji: Ultimate Survivorhas a very similar premise and is apparently really good, so you might get some ideas from it.
You could also make them play amateur/street hoofball and make it focus on tactics and unusual strategies,like Kuroko's Basketball or One Outs.Call me a weeb all you want, this sort of shit is really cool.
Eyo thread
I was on two separate panels about fanfics at babs this past weekend
When they show up on YouTube I'll post them here for you all to enjoy/cringe at
>>27180882
Did you drop much spaghetti?
>>27180895
Pretty sure it's not his first time.
>>27180903
I know it wouldn't be his first time dropping spaghetti, that's why I asked.
Any fimfic mods lurking this thread? I need to pick someone's brain about some finer points of the clusterfuck that is fimfic's rules.
>>27180895
>>27180903
I was reasonably fucked during the clopfic panel, so some pasta was delivered from my pockets, yeah
>>27180941
I don't think any of the mods have come here for quite some time.
>I need to pick someone's brain about some finer points of the clusterfuck that is fimfic's rules.
Get a ticket...
What's the problem, carccy?
>>27180959
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/325479/apple-blooms
Friend of mine wrote this. I thought it was pretty good, got good initial reception, etc., but a few hours after it got posted, it was revoked for having too much sexual content for a T rating and basically can't exist as is because humanized underage sex is not allowed. Now we're left trying to figure out how in the fuck "a girl has body image issues because her classmates give her grief about her bust size" qualifies as sexual content.
>>27181012
It was probably just one mod sperging out.
>>27181012
That's odd.
As long as it doesn't have any overtly explicit description of Apple Bloom's Blooms, there shouldn't be a problem with it having a Teen rating.
>>27181062
I didn't particularly think so, but I write way the hell over the top porn and my perspective may be skewed, so I thought I'd ask for second opinions.
>>27181228
Well, I'm curretnly panicking over my entry for this week's write off. But as soon as I'm done I'll check it out.
Still, seems bogus that the mods would flag it.
Lads,
I wrote a fic involving a polarizing princess.
Ember, Spike and Twilight are involved, so if you've read it, tell me what you think. If not, if you feel like it, give it a read and tell me your thoughts.
When I want honest feedback, I come here.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/325277/the-ties-that-bind
>>27181012
>>27181254
Shit, guys, I'd love to help you out, but I need to sleep now. I'll give these both a read in about 17 hours if you'll still need it.
>>27181362
no rush, I'm all about feedback.
>>27181254
I read the first chapter.
And to add to what I said, it gave off a good vibe. I don't know how else to describe it, but it feels in the spirit of the show.
Consider it tracked, I want to know where you'll take the story.
>>27181437
Thanks, my goal is to keep it within the realm of the show. I want to avoid grimderp but I'd like to keep it able to hold a bit of drama.
How do you guys write such good stories? Something that keeps the reader engaged, and wanting more? I don't specifically have trouble writing a story, but I have trouble writing something that I feel people would enjoy reading and find interesting.
>>27181817
That's... one of those things one has to learn on his own. I mean, intellectual knowledge is fine and all, but you can't really be that good of a storyteller without gaining some intuitivity for it.
>>27181817
>How do you guys write such good stories?I'd like to know how, too...
That's a tricky question, really. If you write something and make sure it's the best quality you can possibly make, then people are more likely to enjoy it. Still, it's ultimately a matter of trying and never giving up.
>>27181860
>Gaining
Oh thank god, I thought this was something that people had to have natural talent for. Then again, I was never particularly good at picking things up.
>>27181892
So, work hard and believe in what I write? I guess I can do that.
>>27181982
I don't want to go on in one of my rants, but talent is largery a myth. The first and foremost thing one needs for any art is DETERMINATION, and a want to improve rather than jealousy when you see work better than what you can make at the time of seeing it.
>>27182025
>I don't want to go on in one of my rants
Yes, because we have so many better things to talk about right now.
But you're right. The "talented" people are the ones who didn't give up.
>>27181817
You want to know how to write fictions? then you might have to make a decision.
Do you want to write:
1) a popular fic, possibly lacking in the plot and storytelling department, but getting a shitload of likes and views because you picked good cover art and a cute plot.
2) a niche plot with a compelling storyline than may only be appreciated by folks who know good fiction when they see it/nerds with a specific boner for whatever you've produced.
3) you've got enough followers that it doesn't matter which of the two you put up, it'll appear in the feature box anyway, and you'll inevitably gain followers from it regardless of how bad/good it is.
>>27182230
I want to eventually get to number 3, but I want to first learn how to write number 1, then learn how to write number 2.
>>27182330
2 is by far the most fun to write, usually because it's an idea you had and genuinely have fun writing.
1 is something you do to build up to 2 and 3, 3 of course being an experience that tells you you've made it to the point where you can write whatever you want and ppl will still love it.
If you want a shortcut to step 3, just write clop of popular ships. It doesn't even have to be good clop necessarily, just clop.
>>27182496
What I'm working on right now falls into the number 2 range, mainly because I've had the idea for some time now. And one of the driving forces in the story is something I know a lot about.
Though out of curiosity, can you link me to a fic that falls under number 1?
>>27182779
link to your fic?
>>27182779
>can you link me to a fic that falls under number 1?
Look at the featured box for any "Pony Verbs a Noun" fic, and you'll have an example of things put together for the sake of raking views.
Not that they can't be good, but most are very shallow.
How long would a oneshot have to be for you to skip it?
>>27183264
If it's over fifty thousand words I will probably not read it, if only because I have limited time for this kind of thing.
I know there are multi million word epics out there. I don't have years of spare time to read them.
I prefer my pony fiction short and punchy, like a midget wrestler.
>>27182798I haven't even started writing it yet. I'm still fleshing some minor, yet important to the story things out
>>27182810
Oh, I was actually looking in my favorites and found " Octavia Tries to Eat a Vanilla Pudding Cup"It's only there because I have a serious hard-on for anything TaviScratch.Don't ask.
I.... kinda get what you mean.
>>27183283
who in the fuck writes a single oneshot worth 50,000 words? just the one chapter?
>>27183423
Wellspring wrote "Ptolemy" back in the day. It's two chapters. Chapter one is 61.5k. The epilogue is just over a thousand.
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/51635/ptolemy
>>27183588
that summary gave me a fucking headache. I get that it's supposed to be a quote from some academic text but it's still incredibly dry. Doesn't really lend itself to wanting me to read it, especially at the length of your average Project Horizons chapter for just one oneshot.
>>27183625
>EDIT 04/16/13: Remastered version coming soon! Grammatically sound, split into several chapters and improvised.
Uh-huh...
If the author didn't bother to do that three years after he said he would, I think I'll be skipping this one, too.
>>27183658
that's honestly hilarious. if it's been that long i would have quietly taken that edit down and let it fade away.
>>27178174
Damn, I feel kind of bad for them now.
>>27183728
Me too. In the end they're doing the same as us, trying to improve and finding enjoyable stuff to read.
Confession time:I don't hate greentext. What bothers me is how ubiquitous it is in the board. Green can have its place for certain types of stories, but its too dry of a format for others.
Question, how do I make a story filled with gore, violence, etc. and have it be a intriguing tale?
I'd like to know how edgy is handled well.
>>27183339
I just read the pudding story, and it was pretty fun, but then again, I am a massive Scratchtavia fan, so there's that.
Regarding your fic, care to tell us your basic premise? Just wondering.
>>27183264
After a certain point, it ceases to be a "oneshot". There are actual books that are not divided into chapters, I doubt they could be called oneshots. If I recall correctly, the original version of Robinson Crusoe is not divided, save for a thing at the end.
If it's 50k, it is not a oneshot. It's not an inherently bad thing, either, but it might show some pacing issues for the writer. I recall liking a 75k word story that was divided in three roughly equal chapters, and it read like three short stories that were a part of a single, bigger one, which is the best way something with chapters so big should feel like.
>>27183847
>Confession time: I don't hate greentext. What bothers me is how ubiquitous it is in the board. Green can have its place for certain types of stories, but its too dry of a format for others.
You are right not to hate it. Some people here have an irrational hatred of things that aren't inherently bad, just for what they are associated with. Greentext is almost always mishandled, and writing anything more than light amounts is not a great idea, but doing it well requires some degree of writing ability, and it is extra practice for "real" writing, so it has an overall good effect on the writer as well, as long as it's not the end goal.
post getting too long
>>27184272
I can't tell you much without knowing what kind of story you want to write, but a general idea you should always have in mind is that you shouldn't have the gore and violence serve the plot rather than the other way around.
Don't use it for the sake of shock value, but try to use it to further the motivations of the characters.
The difference between something like Silence of the Lambs and Friday the 13th: part whatever, is that the first one uses blood, violence, and gore as a way to further develop a character, while the latter is more liberal about it and revels in it.
Both are good in their own right, but they are different, which is why you have to be sure of what kind of story you're writing and find out what's the best way to approach it.
Hopefully that's a little bit helpful.
>>27184356
yea, that helps. Just need a better idea before going into such a difficult thing.
I managed to finish my entry for the writeoff.
Due to the deadline looming, it ended up way, waaaay different than I had originally planned. I'll probably do some rewrites before putting it up on FiMFiction
God, it was a grueling experience, but it felt good to force myself to write almost 7k words in just a weekend.It's more than triple of what I've written for another fic that hasn't updated in nine months.
>>27181012
Literally retarded for not thinking crigey botderline twee shit like that shouldnt be pruned
>>27184330
>>27184272
>I'd like to know how edgy is handled well.
If you want people here to like it, you will have a bad time - a lot of people will dislike it just for the sake of being edgy. Since you are asking this question, I'll just assume that you won't be able to do the more difficult cases and break the rules, so I will stick to more basic things:
Don't be edgy for the sake of being edgy. You will be everything wrong with that style of writing and overall, your story won't have a point. Make it serve a greater purpose, either the consequences of it or it being the consequences. Your characters shouldn't think of it lightly, but don't overdramatize it either. The middle ground depends on each character, so really ask "how would X react to Y?".
If it's gore, learn about what you are writing. Look up basic anatomy and the feelings someone might have depending on which part of their body was damaged, this will help immensely with immersion and realism, as well as giving you extra knowledge. If you want the danger to be there without writing a lot of explicit gory detail, it can be teased in little bits to make the reader anxious of what is coming next. As >>27184356 mentioned, Silence of the Lambs does that well.
Hannibal, the TV show, is generally good when it comes to handling edge and especially hardcore gore. If you are doing something to shock the reader, do not skip the details. Don't focus on the reactions of others in those moments - when you hit, hit the reader hard and relentlessly. It can be hard, but shock is a good tool when utilized properly, but if you want it to be most effective, don't do it in the first two acts.
Once you get better, these rules will become just guidelines, and you can often find good examples of stories breaking the rules, but for the beginning, stick to them.
>>27184356
Is a cool guy and you should listen to him as well.
Also ask more questions about the specifics, it is useful for you and people answering.
>>27184404
I remember when I wrote 3k words in about an hour or so and thought writing's easy and fun and I might do it more often.
Then I looked at what I wrote, deleted the file, deleted the folder, cleared my trash bin, cleared all temp files from my system just in case and completely gave up on writing.
>>27180951
Whats it like being one of the worst namefags to come out of any fandom ever?
>>27184420
stop it, bleedin, you didn't even read it
>>27184443
He's a tripfag, not a namefag.
And you have no idea how bad tripfags can get.
>>27181012
Not really my cup of tea, but this sort of growing up stuff seems helpful and just generally good. Like something the show would do, just notably more mature.
The mod thing sounds like one of those sorta soccer mom things about how any discussion of our sexuality is damaging to kids, even when it's obviously the opposite.
>>27184437
I kind of doubt you managed to write 50 words per minute. It would mean that you are both a fast typer and had the story laid out very well in your mind. Even when writing relatively unstructured SoC from my own point of view, I don't achieve speeds like that.
That aside, you should probably get back to writing. Three most important moments for many writers are:
Finally writing your story, instead of fantasizing about how great it is
Realizing that it is a load of crap and there is a long way to go
Writing a second story and understanding how much you can actually learn from the mistakes in a single story.
>>27184450
>>27184443
c'mon mates, you are better than that.
>>27184492
>you are better than that
Hey, screw you, buddy, you don't know me.
just wish greens weren't always
>Anon fucks this pony
or
>Pony fucks Anon, unwillingly (but not really)
>>27184554
They aren't, but even those that are aren't very good, simply because greentext sucks for anything that isn't comedy.
>>27184655
the only greens ive ever seen were either anon fucks a pony or anon doesnt wan to fuck a pony.
following the autistic belief that rape=funny that weve all seen, i guess that qualifies as comedy
I just noticed. My fic's protagonists do a fuckload of backstabbing.It's a good thing they're villain protagonists or else this'd be a problem.
>>27185803
Why would it? A "good" protagonist allying with vilains only to backstab them and return to the good side isn't that much of a problem for me.
>>27185815
Yes, but if I wanted to portray them as 'good' or 'heroic', then I probably wouldn't have them doing so much lying, cheating, and betraying.
>>27185839
Well, white knighting honorific heroism isn't always interesting.
>>27185862
I completely agree. That's why I went ahead and wrote a story with completely unheroic protagonists.
>>27184330
>There are actual books that are not divided into chapters
None of Pratchett's Discworld books (at least the ones that I've read) have chapters, which I actually found kind of annoying since it felt like one continuous stream of words without any breaks, which got tiring after a while.
>>27185913
To be fair they aren't what one'd call long books in general. They are, what, three hundred words each?
Dunno, they always felt like that to me, I've only read them digitally.
Hey /fimfic/, I'm looking for some recommendations. Anything good involving conspiracies or mystery among the princesses? Doesn't have to be (more like shouldn't be) full blown ay lmao illuminati, doesn't even have to turn out to be true. Can be both serious or light hearted like that Celestia doesn't drink tea fic. No humans if possible.
>>27185923
Celestia Code
>>27185917
Most of them are probably around the 100k word range, which isn't too long for fantasy, but not exactly novella length either.
>>27185917
Three hundred pages*
>>27185934
That seems about right. Still, three hundred pages is not an insignificant length for a single, continuous story without chapter breaks.
>>27185925
Thanks. Is the sequel, Luna Cypher, worth it as well?
>>27185950
I didn't read it, so I can't tell.
>>27185950
Yes, and Twilight Enigma too. They're all different in their own way but the main theme is princessly intrigue.
>>27185968
Awesome, that's exactly what I wanted. It's been a long time since I had a fic to read while commuting. Last time it was Background Pony. I'll eventually get through all the old good stuff.
>>27185913
I remember reading Blindness some time ago and really liking it.
That book is not only not separated into chapters, the whole thing is a single sentence, the author doesn't use periods, semicolons, or paragraphs.
The book was amazing, but I'd be lying if I said it didn't take some time to ease into it.
>>27185925
Bullshit. The mystery is gone after the first five minutes, and the reveal is disappointing.
>>27186878
>The mystery is gone after the first five minutes
You do know that there are several threads to discover, right? That Celestia's is only the most aparent one?
>>27186952
In the original fic? No, everything in it gets resolved very fast.
>>27186959
I thought the opposite. The beginning lays the groundwork for a "Da Vinci Code" style thriller, but gets bogged down in character and relationship drama such that the narrative loses all momentum. In the end, there's no big reveal, no twist. The story just ends. It's a shame, because I quite liked the style iisaw uses, and several plot points were actually quite clever.
>>27187001
Did you misquote? Because I agree with everything you've said. Any existing mystery is resolved soon after being introduced, and the rest is just drama between a mostly OC cast.
>>27187024
It's not that the mysteries were resolved too quickly, I think. I found that by the time they were, I didn't care. All the OCs and romance subplots had completely sapped any tension. While rom-com shenanigans are effective at cutting suspense, in this case, iisaw took it too far.
>>27187062
Nah, mysteries were introduced one at a time and solved shortly after, and it was really unsatisfying. I would have dropped it whenTwilight figured out a way to beat the defense system on the fucking spotif I wasn't so close to the end.
I do agree with you, though. The writing is technically fine, but the content is mediocre.
>>27183588
I can't believe I just read that in one sitting. I've having some serious questions about my life choices right now.
Overall, it was a decent read. Some issues with grammar and the story got really dark really fast, but the buildup to the ending was well-done.
On one hand, I just bought Bloodborne.
On the other, I just got an e-mail about a new Persona EG chapter.
Choices, choices...
>>27187073
I think I understand. When I say "mystery", I mean the underlying plot, the driving question. I think of the intervening bits more as "puzzles". If it were a video game, they would be one of those sliding block rooms.
>>27187114
Oh, I see. I guess we just had a bit of a misunderstanding.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
>>27181012
Your friend's been blessed with an official commendation from Mythril Moth, right in the latest chapter of his magnum opus!
>>27187176
>>27187176
>Mfw Virgo is a spanish insult to call someone a virgin
>Mfw my face has trascended reality
>>27187107
understandable. I wouldnt want to touch bloodborne or persona eg either. you need a third option.
>>27187237
Hey fuck you man, I'm going to have fun with it and you can't stop me.
I bet you're just a jelous mustard anyway!
>>27187251
Joke's on you.
I'm ketchup.
>>27187266
>Ketchup
Get a load of this fag.
Mayonaise all day erry day.
>>27187296
>>27187296
>mayo
>>27187337
more like The Hurlin' am I right fellas
>>27187337
This reminds me of that one time I entered the kitchen and my brother was throwing mayonaise into his mouth. As in he was drinking the fucking thing. I still get dry heaves at the memory.
And yes, he does have a boyfriend now.
>>27187384
>And yes, he does have a boyfriend now.
Well that came out of nowhere.
>>27187388
>Drinking mayonaise..
>>27187384
>And yes, he does have a boyfriend now.
I see.
The mayonnaise drinking was training.
>>27187403
Are you under the impression that mayonnaise looks or tastes like cum?
>>27187416
You must be the single person who hasn't made a no homo joke of any kind after being told that story.
>>27187424
Probably not, because I actually know what cum looks and tastes like.
I wonder how this sounds like out of context.
>>27187560
Sounds like eight year old me having a stroke.
Fucking MythrilMoth shilling his shit non-pony related
WHY THEY DON'T BAN THIS FAGGOT?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>27187672
Who let the tards out?
who
who
who who who
I don't want to use handful, but hoofful looks stupid written down. Should I do hoof-ful? Or just go with more concrete quantities?
Also, how do you find cover art? Because I think derpibooru will explode with my trillion specifications.
Also also, http://www.fimfiction.net/story/275505/oc-slamjam---round-three is in my read later.
That is confusing seeing as I have no idea what it is or why I put it there. My actions tend to have a reason, so I am considering the possibility of having forgotten why I put it there. So yeah, anyone know? I've not read the previous rounds either, so I can't have forgotten that.
>>27188017
Could be you got drunk one day and just don't remember adding it
Or it could have just appeared one day. I have noticed a few things that i know for certain i would never save pop up on my shelves on occasion. I just assume knighty fucked something up and continue with my day
>>27188017
I've seen hoofful being used several times and think it's perfectly fine senpai
>>27188017
Do it yourself like Autismo.
>>27188224
>Autismo
Who is that?
Also, holy crap, that's some rad cover art. What story is it?
>>27187560
I can think of no context in which this would seem anything but stupid.
>>27188017
Maybe try mouthful. Because poniesand by that I mean earth and pegasus mud poniesoften have to carry things around in their mouths.
How often can you make perspective switches? A lot of stories have flashbacks within them, but what if it was interwoven every two paragraphs?
>>27188458
You have to be really good at establishing your POV early on. Otherwise, just stick to keeping a single POV for each scene.
>>27188320
>Who is that?
The writer formerly known as Autismo, now MCA, is currently writing a story about Bon Bon and her old spy agency.
That's where the coverart comes from.
>>27187107
Start with Bloodborne. When you're heartily sick of the first area because you still haven't quite clicked with the gameplay, take a break with Persona EG. Then go back to Bloodborne and discover you're starting to Git Gud.
>>27189184
Too late. Finished reading, started playing. I've died like hundreds of times on the verge of beating the two werewolf things, once in the hidden path behind the clutter due to bullshit, and now I've discovered I can actually buy gear that's like twice as good as the starting armor I've been using all this time.
I like it though, I actually feel like I myself am improving at the game even though my character stayed the same this entire time. Which is unusual, because I get mad at video games pretty easily nowadays.
>>27189450
Werewolves are kinda there to fuck with you at this stage. You can bypass them if you don't want to tackle themor cheese them by running into the house and poking at them from inside the doorway they can't fit into.
Enjoy exploring! You can talk to folks in the houses with those incense lanterns, if you haven't figured that out yet.
>>27189857Do I get anything for killing the werewolves?
Also, can I go through the secret sewers or will I get buttfucked? I got killed by the hidden spearguy below because I rolled into his attack and I don't know if I should try again right now or just come back later.
This is my last shitpost, I swear. Here's a pony to prove it.
How would the cutie mark crusaders cause a whole building to collapse? Need to know how for a star.
>>27190085
Cutie Mark Crusaders Bulding Constructors! Yay!
>>27190100
Thanks senpai.
>>27190085
They're like the Dirty Pair plus One.
They'd show up, and the building would just fall over, and they'd say "But it's not our faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaault!"
Alternately? I see fire and explosions as far as the eye can see.
>>27190418
>Explosions
Now this gave me a great idea. Reminded me of a news story where an explosion caused building collapsed in my city. Here, have a star.
>>27190434
Thanks.
Also,
>"once you go Earth Pony, you don't go back"
>>27190455
My waifu confirms. I've stayed loyal for 4 years now.
>>27190503
>mfw that was a line from a horrible greentext trollfic I wrote
>mfw I have no face
>>27190418
>"But it's not our faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaault!"
Celestia confirms they aren't at fault, then tasks them with carrying a biohazard from Ponyville to a disposal facility in Hoofington.
>>27190024Werewolves drop 2-3 blood vials. Also, I think you have to go through the sewers, although you can leave the tunnel section for later.
>>27190574
heh.
Are you familiar with the Dirty Pair, incidentally? Mango/animoo comedy action sci-fi heroines from the 80s. Everywhere they go, shit blows the fuck up, up to and including entire planets. They were doing that Michael Bay stuff before Michael Bay.
And it really usually isn't their fault.
I think about Kei and Yuri, and I think about the CMC, and it makes me laugh.
Kei and Yuri try to arrest the terrorist, but don't get him until he presses the "earth shattering kaboom" button on his planet-buster bomb. Oops. It really isn't their fault.
The CMC are--well, were--constantly doing pants-on-head retarded shit in an attempt to get their cutie marks. ("and then Scootaloo...") They don't mean to blow up their homes. Or the town. It kind of always is their fault, though.
The Dirty Pair and the CMC are both walking disaster areas and if you see them, you're probably going to die in a fire. The Dirty Pair will be trying to stop a terrorist from setting off an H-bomb in the city, and fail. The CMC will say "Cutie Mark Crusaders nuclear physicists! Yay!" and not think through consequences of their actions. You end up dead either way, of course.
What would be an equivalent pony term for "misanthrope"?
I was thinking about "misequine", but that doesn't sound right.
>>27191086
mishippope?
ponifying language is a delicate thing. you want to do it, but if people have to expend effort trying to decipher your made up words it just breaks focus
>>27191086
>misanthrope
>anthro
MODS MODS MODS
>>27191158
>Anthro
Are anthro stories not allowed here? Oh, whelp. Gotta make em full humanized now. Thank god this happened, I was just about ready to post it here for review before I put it up on FiMFiction
>>27191086
If you want to be really autistic, I think you should use a term from Greek, not Latin. So something like "mishippope". Or maybe "hippophobe" if you actually want people to understand you.
However, I would just really reccoment describing the whole thing in different terms. If a word isn't right to use, don't use it.
So unless you're working on a pony version of one of Molière's works, I wouldn't use the term at all.
>>27191175
Nah anthro is g, I was just fucking aroundpersonally I don't mind anthro at all
>>27191213
>personally I don't mind anthro at all
You monster.
>>27191213
>I don't mind anthro
you disgust and sickitate me
if you like ponies, keep them ponies. if anthro is your thing stop sullying us with your presence and go beat off to looney tunes
>>27191213
>Anthro
Leave, and please do not come back.
>>27190667
>Are you familiar with the Dirty Pair, incidentally?
It's "LOVELY ANGELS!"My first anime crushes, yeah. Although I learned of them through the Adam Warren comics before I got into anime.
Bump
Anyone know any /good/ humanized fics? I've been looking for one for some references to use because the story I'm writing doesn't entirely work the best if they're ponies
>>27192550
Get on your knees and beg forgiveness!
>>27192621
Hey, is the one on the left Raibow Dash's Dad?
>>27192621
Uhh... What?
>>27192636
Wouldn't he be too old to be a dancer in Rara's show?
...Maybe he's Dash's illegitimate brother that she doesn't know about.
>>27192653
What about the story "doesn't entirely work the best if they're ponies"? Aren't you just being lazy?
>>27192550
>Anyone know any /good/ humanized fics?
No such beast exists.
>I've been looking for one for some references to use because the story I'm writing doesn't entirely work the best if they're ponies
then perhaps you should give up on that trash and write a ponyfic
>>27192550
I can't think of any that aren't porn, or extremely short Slice of Life.
What kind of story are you writing that can't work with ponies?
>>27192713
I really really really like this image
>>27192550
The only humanized fics I can think of that aren't clop are OctaScratch fics. Of course, at that point they're basically just original fictions with character names matching that of background pony names.
>>27192550
if the story doesn't work with ponies why bother using this as a fanfic? might as well write original
>>27192781
>>27192778
>>27192718
>>27192711
>>27192700
Okay, okay sheesh. I'll force it to work with ponies
>>27192820
No need to get defensive, hun. We're just a bunch of pricks.
I'm genuinely curious, though. What story are you writing?
>>27192820
don't force anything, that's how you end up with a torn asshole, you know
I just read all the stories that were submitted for the writeoff.
While there were some stinkers, there were some really good stories in there.
Did you take part in it?
>>27192820
People here dislike some things without actual reason. If you wanna write your story in one way, do it, and it'll be fine. If it's bad, making chars into regular ponies won't help. If it's good, making them into humans or even anthro won't destroy anything.
>>27193454
>without actual reason
If you want to write humanized, just fuck off and write original fiction instead.
If you want to write anthro, just make up your fucking mind and write either pony fiction or original fiction about humans.
>>27193619
thats pretty much my thoughts on it.
If youve got to do humanized, at least base it off eqg and tag it appropriately. That wont make it any better, but at least it means I wont accidentally try reading it
I'm not saying that there cant be a good anthro/humanized pony story. But I am saying that hundreds of people have tried and failed spectacularly, and because of that, I will never even pretend to feign interest in those who choose to write it
>>27193651
I, on the other hand, just think that a site about pony fiction should have pony fiction. People write humanized solely to generate ponyfag following, because they don't feel safe outside of their hugbox.
And anthro is just for people who want to write about ponies but don't want to bother to LEARN to write about ponies, which is just a major red flag.
If youre not clever enough to be able to create original material and have to write humanized fanfiction, why not choose one of the thousands of franchises with humans in it? Go write some ben 10, jungle book, gi joe, transformers, tmnt, ghostbusters, star trek, andromeda, or smurf shit?
if youre a furfag, then go write about literally any other anthro critter. granted all of the anthro shit im somewhat familiar with is literally gay smut, then go write the shit out of a pack of anthro wolves fucking the shit out of an anthro squirrel
But we're all members on a pony fanfiction site and were currently having a discussion in a thread about pony fanfiction. the closest thing to humanized we will tolerate is eqg shit, and the closest thing to anthro we will allow (and still hate profusely) is the shit towards the end of eqg where the humanized not-ponies sprout tails and wings.In short, write about ponies being ponies or GTFO
Does anyone have any advice on finding the motivation to write? I mean, I like writing, but it's difficult to find ideas, and I'm always second-guessing myself whenever I do write a story.
>>27193816
no...
>>27193816
Writing is hard. You have to find your own personal fuel and your own personal way to exchange it for words you'll not puke looking at.
>>27193841
Alright; I don't know how to open a fic, though.
>>27193883
I mean write an opening.
>>27193883
Well... I prefer from outside to inside. Talk about some neighbourhood and then zoom in on your character or event. Or do the opposite.I wish I were a better player
>>27179840
>is... a bit pricey
Why doesn't she have homeowner's insurance?
>>27180346
>ponies playing MLG
Please, no. Professional video gaming is cringy enough without adding ponies into the mix
>humanized or even anthro
Why? What does that bring to the story that leaving them as ponies leaves out?
Why not invent a sport? Sure, you could base it off of something real like soccer or baseball, but if you create it, you get to set up what happens, what weird rules might influence the plot, what worldbuilding to do. It would also make the actual play more interesting for the reader
>>27181817
It all starts with the premise. What's the story about? I try and think of ideas I'd enjoy as a reader. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't
Good characterization's another important point. Especially since the plot's not always going to be there to keep the reader reading. You're going to have filler or connecting scenes that tie everything together and if you have good dialogue and interesting characters, it won't bore the reader
>>27183264
Depends on the plot, but once it ticks into five digits, I'm much less likely to give it a go
>>27184272
>filled with gore, violence, etc.
The plot has to fit the content. A story about a surgeon can be incredibly gorey, but few would call it edgy since it would fit like a glove
Authors don't realize that and insert gore and violence where it really isn't needed--thus making it edgy. If you include 15 paragraphs that graphically detail a rape, then that rape better be a huge part of the story
>>27185950
Not nearly as much. The central plot that's built up throughout is quickly resolved and the minor subplot that wasn't all that important is suddenly thrust into the limelight for the last several chapters
>>27186878
I was rather disappointed the Tyranlestia angle was so quickly abandoned, but it was still a good story.
>>27190085
>Towel rack at your service
>I can't bear to look as PinkIS THAT THE SUPPORT BEAM TO THE HOUSE?!
>>27193816
>I'm always second-guessing myself
That's the editor in you. You need to throw him in a cage and ignore him through the first draft. His time comes when you start revising.
>>27193619
>>27193706
>If you want to write humanized, just fuck off and write original fiction instead
>If you want to write anthro just make up your fucking mind and write either pony fiction or original fiction about humans
We are writing fanfics. It is in some ways a lesser form of fiction - we use already established settings, characters and concepts as a crutch for our writing. I am fine with that, since it is good for training and it encourages people to get better. What I don't get is the notion that it can be fine to do some things to the characters (like violence in ways that isn't present in the show or basically anything above E rating), but when it comes to these things, suddenly, it's all somehow inherently bad.
Is this just a sort of "I don't like this fun, so others can't have it" thing or what? I'm not saying that humanized or anthro are good things, either. I don't remember liking anything humanized, and I just don't read anthro at all, but it doesn't make them _inherently_ bad. I think that just not reading them because you dislike them or criticizing each story on its own merits, regardless of whether it is humanized, anthro or pony is just much better
>>27193663
>pony fiction should have pony fiction
It's all fanfiction, and save for exceptions which exist even in all-pony stories, humanized and anthro ones still take aforementioned elements of the show, qualifying them as fanfiction. The whole weird purist notion that only ponies are acceptable due to source material would render almost all stories on fimfiction bad, just because they lack certain elements of the source material. But isn't this whole thing about taking the source material and bringing it in new places?
>People write humanized solely to generate ponyfag following, because they don't feel safe outside of their hugbox
Where did this idea come from?
>anthro is just for people who want to write about ponies but dont want to bother to LEARN to write about ponies
[citation needed]
>>27193706
>If youre not clever enough to be able to create original material and have to write humanized fanfiction, why not choose one of the thousands of franchises with humans in it?
If you're not clever enough to be able to create original material and have to write something that handles themes beyond what the show does, why not choose one of the thousands of more mature franchises?
Really, is there any reasoning that explains why humanized/anthro is bad that doesn't imply that it is bad because it strays from the source material, even though that is what fanfiction just does?
>>27193816
Some of my thoughts in >>27184492
Write the first one and it will be crap, but most people want their first story to be their magnum opus and just never end up writing it, just fantasizing over how cool it would be. There are millions upon millions of people who fantasize about being great writers but never actually finish anything. If you write something, and hell, maybe even show it to someone, you are already ahead of most people.
>>27193883
Start at the beginning, maybe?
Really though, you don't have to write a special opening, just establishing a setting is fine. You can also write things out of order, with the scenes that pop in your head being first and then just reorganizing it later. I actually tend to start the story with the scenes that are supposed to have the most emotional impact, and then add the less important things later. The general rule of thumb is planning it all out first. Write an outline, a plan, just something that you can keep track of. It doesn't need to be rigid, but when an author writes without knowing what comes next, it is usually very easy to see and makes the work seem very sloppy.
>>27195183
>it doesn't make them _inherently_ bad.
I guess you _could_ write Star Trek fanfic in which the technology of interstellar travel didn't exist, and Kirk and Spock are neighbors in a New York brownstone, but at a certain point you have to ask why you're even trying to pretend.
>>27194123
>Why not invent a sport?
Unless it is heavily based off of an existing thing, this usually fails miserably. Unless you are very much into sports or you are a game designer, it is hard to create a fictional sport that both makes sense in-universe and just as a way of spending time in general. Quidditch is a fairly good example of what can happen if you don't think it out.
>>27195212
I really, really, really didn't want to accuse the people I was arguing against of being like that. I know they are better than that.
>>27195231
On the second thought.
Jokes aside, if the characters are still the characters from the show personality-wise, it still qualifies as fanfiction and it doesn't have to be bad. If they could be renamed and nobody would be the wiser, then it qualifies as one of the exceptions, which, as I mentioned, still exist in stories that aren't anthro or humanized.
I am not saying I'd read them, because I really wouldn't, but I don't think that they can just be ignored for the sole reason of them taking the show in a certain particular direction, which can't be explored because it's just not like the show, even though most of the good fanfics are also taking the show in a direction that can be explored, even though they are not like the show.
I dunno, mate. I just want to give people a little credit, instead of discounting them as bad writers.Even though, in reality, almost every single one of them is.
>>27195224
>imply that it is bad because it strays from the source material, even though that is what fanfiction just does?
If you want to write pony fanfiction, why not leave them ponies? What do you gain by turning every pony into snorks?
Themes can be something that doesnt exist in canon, but are still likely to exist. clop? foals exist so theoretically so does sex. police exist, so theoretically there is crime. Large numbers of armored troops exist, so theoretically there is war.
you know what there isnt? bipedal "ponies" who have tits, wear clothes and have hands who have nudity taboos and flattening fetishes
>>27195224
>Really, is there any reasoning that explains why humanized/anthro is bad that doesn't imply that it is bad because it strays from the source material, even though that is what fanfiction just does?
Is there any reasoning that explains why it's good?
Listen, I'll be honest with you. You could write a great story with humanised ponies, with an interesting plot, good characterisation, and all that jazz, and we still wouldn't read it.
Why?
Because a large portion of us want to read pony fanfiction. That's why we go to FiMFiction. That's why we discuss and write stories about ponies, we're simply not interested in humanised stories and while we may defend that preference a bit too zealously, you have to at least try to understand where we come from.
>>27195276
>If you want to write pony fanfiction, why not leave them ponies?
I think that a large amount of your point hinges on how you phrase your question. It's kinda clever, but not entirely accurate. I'll fix that.
>If you want to write MLP fanfiction, why not leave them ponies?
Better. Why leave them ponies? Nothing makes that _better_ by itself. A crap story with anthro will still be crap with ponies. I leave it up to the writer in this case - if they want to do anthro or humans, why not let them?
>What do you gain by turning every pony into snorks?
Genuinely chuckled.
>Themes can be something that doesnt exist in canon, but are still likely to exist.
By the little edge things and pop-culture references, we could infer the existence of American culture in the past. Of course, that would be silly to actually think that the jokes or background things prove much. My point is that the show doesn't do anything with many things, and doing something completely unrelated in fanfiction doesn't make it bad. It just mostly tends to be.
>you know what there isnt? bipedal "ponies" who have tits, wear clothes and have hands who have nudity taboos and flattening fetishes
Would you really say that having a possibility to exist outside our view in the show is what makes the pony fanfics better? What about AU? Is AU an inherently worse genre for the sake that there is no possibility of it existing in canon? Anthro and humanized are AU, so if you can say that about the entirety of AU, the difference of opinion between us lies much deeper.
>>27195347
>Is there any reasoning that explains why it's good?
It's neutral. Just like pony is neutral. What matters more is the message conveyed, the technical skill, etc.
>You could write a great story with humanised ponies, with an interesting plot, good characterisation, and all that jazz
This is all that my point ever was. Just the problem with implications of being anthro or humanized making something inherently worse.
>and we still wouldn't read it.
Oh, I probably wouldn't, either. I don't like them most of the time myself.
>we're simply not interested in humanised stories
I'd say that most of the discussion could be applied to any sort of story. I'd say that just about half of the discussion is even show related at all - it's mostly just general writing, which is why I enjoy dropping by once in a while. I get more than just pony knowledge here, and that's kinda satisfying.
>you have to at least try to understand where we come from.
No issues with that. I tend to get ticked off when people assume inherent problems where there are none. Glad we have an agreement.
>>27195423
>Why leave them ponies?
The foundational, elemental, absolute baseline concept is that they are ponies. It's not "My Little Nerd Looking to Understand Friendship." (That's the subtitle.) They are ponies. The fact that the show has compelling characters and intriguing lore is secondary, even if though those bits are the parts that draw us into fanfic. All of that is great, but before anything else, ponies. That's the concept. The crystallization of MLP is that the characters are ponies. Just as Star Trek is about a trek among the stars. Rip out that elemental distillation, and what are you left with? Equestria Girls? Stories carpet-bagging on a name they no longer represent. Abominations and monstrosities, Anon. Abominations and monstrosities.
> if they want to do anthro or humans, why not let them?
I don't think anyone is suggesting we can stop them. But we can look down our noses at them. We can look down our noses like goddamn champs!
Quality bump
What are your thoughts on this?
> http://bekindrewrite.com/2013/08/16/5-ways-to-build-a-detailed-world-without-boring-your-readers/
It mentions five ways to weave exposition about lore and backstory into the narrative.
>>27195672
>The foundational, elemental, absolute baseline concept is that they are ponies.
I'd agree on you if we were talking about it from the marketing standpoint.
>"My Little Nerd Looking to Understand Friendship."
I really like this one from a narrative standpoint.
>I don't think anyone is suggesting we can stop them.
I meant "let them" as "let them be".
I like you, anon. I don't want to argue against you, because I like your response in every way besides the point. I even like the pic you posted, so I feel like I am being mean to a friend when arguing against you. Seriously.
>>27197403
Well, I dunno. It's overly simplistic and will rescue the very beginner from one set of pitfalls by shoving them in another.
> With a few tricks of Show, Don’t Tell, we can show our readers a lot about our world without slipping into exposition.
>Whatever the occupation, in one conversation with buddies at the pub about how hard work has been this week and what the government is up to [..]
Expository dialogue isn't exposition, woo! This can be hard to overcome, but when characters talk to each other, but the point is to convey information about something, it shows. It's clunky, it's awkward and it is in some ways worse than just narrator telling is about it. If you want to tell about the world in conversations between people, do so in little bits. Remember that they understand the world already and they won't re-tell each other the basics we don't know.
>2. Your protagonist’s relationships
This point explains how you doing one thing will achieve another thing. It's not as much a writing technique as it is an analysis one. I don't think whoever wrote this has a lot of experience as a fiction writer.
>Does he pray before he eats? Does he have to slay a beast to be acknowledged a man? When he attends a funeral, is he watching a body buried, burned, scattered, eaten, or recycled? Do they even have funerals?
Most of this is not relevant information in the way that we don't actually care about any of this. Sure, it can be used for worldbuilding, but these are SoL bits that have no other point than to establish the world through tedious exercises. It is rarely fun to learn through traditions, it is much more interesting to learn about the things by seeing things that are _outside_ the status quo. Establish what is normal by showing what isn't.
>>27197778
[cont.]
>Language, slang, shop talk, and industry buzzwords are all great tools to both plant clues and add personality to your world.
There are two cases where you should do this - either when you are a linguist or have a good understanding of how language works (Assume that you don't. The good examples of using language are things like 1984. You are not George Orwell.) or when you are a good enough writer to know how to use and/ or break the rules, which means that this list, including this point are completely unnecessary to you and you really should just know better than this oversimplistic representation of the information interpersonal communication conveys. That's a bunch of long words.
>Use the appendices
Please don't. Needing something other than the text in front of you makes for a tedious read. There are some cases where it is acceptable, but it shouldn't be encouraged. This is a whole different topic that is hard to get into right now, seeing as I gotta go to bed.
Thanks for the link anyway, it was a nice thought exercise. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to try and help.
>>27197790
>Assume that you don't. The good examples of using language are things like 1984. You are not George Orwell.
Bashing people not to try at all is worse than the alternative. It's condemning everyone to utter mediocrity.
>>27197815
>Bashing people not to try at all is worse than the alternative.
Ok, I was too oversimplistic with my point, agreed. What I meant is that for someone who is looking for advice in writing, trying to put extra meaning in the language is too complex of a task and will likely end up in a mess. As someone who likes linguistics, there are many things that people forget, and it is hard to recognise how little you know when you have just a base understanding, especially when you are starting out as a writer.
>It's condemning everyone to utter mediocrity.
Meant it more as a "stick to what you can do, until you learn enough to be able to do more".°
Hope I didn't say anything stupid this time.
>http://peekyforums.com/thread/27131408/my-little-pony/fimfiction-thread-now-with-53-more-activity.html
What the actual fuck
>>27198084
What is that, and why should I disable my ad blocker to see it?
>>27198084
The slowest of pokes.
>>27198101
Somehow someone posted the entire previous thread and gave usernames to everyone.
>>27198109
But... why?
>>27198152
I don't know.
>http://peekyforums.com/section/my-little-pony
>>27197403
>implying asexual socialist aliens would be unable to comprehend the concepts of social class, wealth and marriage
Fucking dropped.
Honestly though, I don't have much to say about it. A strict adherence to it is obviously not something you'd want, but it works decent as a list of suggestions. Obviously you shouldn't drown the reader in excessive setting information straight away, which is what you'll do if you follow every point on the list, but that's just common sense.
I'm personally often not a fan of appendices, but they do have their limited use, for example in more grand tales of fantasy. Which is what this guide is ultimately most suited for, as not all stories will require much in the way of worldbuilding.
In terms of FimFiction, I guess this could be a decent list of suggestions when you're planning a story that's more in the lines of adventure or AU.
>>27197778
>overly simplistic
It's six hundred words of simple suggestions on a writing blog. It's not exactly trying to be anything but simple.
I disagree with you on a lot of other points here, but it's not really worth getting into. Mostly it just seems like you're missing the point of the post, provided I'm not the one who's got it wrong.
>>27198152
Pretending that it's a legitimate forum for ad revenue. Haven't anyone here seen it before? It's old news.
>>27197403
The only thing you need is springhole.com. Best website for writing advice.
>>27197403
I'm trying to figure out how having appendices == not boring your readers. I mean, this is decent advice for world and character building, but if you aren't event thinking about how your world influences your characters career options, then you obviously don't care very much about worldbuilding at all.
So yeah, if you're very new to worldbuilding, this kind of stuff is useful (I've seen bits and pieces of it from other guides, and they helped me with worldbuilding a lot), but this really is just Worldbuilding 101.
>>27198537
>I'm trying to figure out how having appendices == not boring your readers.
I suppose it's because you're not dumping entire blocks of lore in the middle of the story, but rather having it as a separate piece.
Imagine if in between The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien had dropped the entirety of the Silmarillion.
Hello, everyone, I'm not usually a very active person but I'd like you guys to hear me out. I have a small project going on and I need a couple of writers for it. It's an EqG project so you may not be interested.
If you are, my e-mail is [email protected] you can add me on skype with it.
>>27198648
Try the Writer's Guild, they'd probably be more willing to help you out.
>>27198658
Thanks, this was just a small publicity too, for anyone that's interested.
>>27198640
Fair enough, but I guess that goes back into my original point: this isn't really about writing an engaging story, it's about worldbuilding.
If your audience needs the appendices to understand the story, then you'll be boring them. If they don't, then your appendices aren't really part of your story.
2^8 bump
