>>26011023
I bet the unedjamacated raiders might refer to the bombs as something other than bombs.

>>26011023
>more popular mannerisms
Shooting on sight.
It's all the rage.

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>>26011023
Despite memory orbs affirming to the contrary, wasteland ponies coming to refer to the princesses not as royalty, but as gods.

>>26011450
>it's all the rage
not sure if that's a pun or not...

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>>26011023
since WW3 is on its way anyway.

>>26011360
badonka-donks maybe?

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I did it neuro.
Now is the time of the sexuals.

So has the mega media spawning fanfic bandwagon passed? I couldn't, say, write a ponified version of something like, Oh I dunno, Metal Gear and make it longer than the Harry Potter series?

>>26006453
>>26006678
>>26006951
>>26006983

Guys. Guys.

It's a PnP Character, not a story Protag.

>>26012127
It's shit.

>>26012127
Stop playing with a shitty system

Discussion?

Fallout 4 has made it more of a thing but with food items being made to not just heal but give effects, could it be possible that in the wasteland of FoE, things were radiated to have mutations that would cause an effect to a user. Like making them feel stronger or making then feel more alive after consuming it.

>>26012848
No

>>26012848
>making then feel more alive after consuming it.
Only chocolate does this, and in the wasteland the only way to get chocolate is snack cakes.

And the tyrant Sunfall takes all the snack cakes for herself.

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What would have couriers deliver to others?

>>26011842
>china starts hackspamming california
>get disappointed it's not San Fransisco hipster SJW motherfuckers, but some random town

>>26013753
Armed children, trained to rob the recipient and then use a portion of their loot to mail themselves back to me.

>>26013868

What of the children just keep the loot and dont mail themselves back? they will buy candy with stolen caps and you can shoove your hooves up your ass

>>26014065
They will always come back because they will be dependent on me for reassurance and care. You know, love and stuff. I could also make them fear merchants and crave the safety and confinement of their packaging.

Honestly, the way you talk makes it seem like I'm only using them to steal without exerting myself, like I don't even care for these kids.

>>26013765
china don't care

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>>26015201
Why doesn't china love me?

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>>26012015
http://i.imgur.com/wnchHAc.png

>>26015512
w-wew

>>26015512

> Absolutely haram

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>>26015398
So assuming pegasi like Sapphire and Murky along with the other fics were to be ongoing when Operation Cauterize was being planned, how does this change things?

I think it makes their mass extermination plans more justified, as they seek to erase all pegasi that exist groundside.

Otoh I see that the plan would change quite a bit in the face that these pegasi are rather more prevalent than the 2 dashites we had in the original, and consequently the Enclave would be far more aware of the issue, perhaps restricting their strikes far more to just the MOA and Dashites to avoid causing them to come upstairs as it were.

>>26016120
>Murky
>a threat
Heh.
As for change, I doubt it would have changed much. The Enclave overestimated themselves. I'm sure they'd have put more priority on dashites, but ultimately considered them a nonissue.

>>26016140
Rock fetish is best fetish.

>>26016613
It *rocks*

Takes some *stones* to act on it.

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Stalkers are 2spoopy.

>>26016824
I'm just looking for the update is all. I'll sexulate Mach once I find it.
Probably something involving a bag of cheese puffs and a hair dryer...

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>>26016675
You shouldn't have sex with Rocks. They're better as pillows.

So thoughts on Murky story 1 Yes I read the footnotes.

We already discussed that Murky is more butler or man servant than slave, but I think it should be repeated.

Most people forget he has saddlebags/ had saddlebags to carry his journal when arting him.

Miracle DJPON3 is really overused. For the love of me and readers, please people, use other radio hosts. Hell have them whine that nobody listens to them after that big mouth in Tenpony came online. Datte gets 10 points for not doing this.

For all the surprise talk of Murky being a pegasus, Fuzzy, you laid it on to heavily with the attention to the skycarts, the dream to fly, and the constant gerkin adjusting. I'm also amazed that his owners apparently never tried to take it off.

Wait, bound clothes, green skin?
Murky is a super mutant!
Or a fairly foolish gretchin for not mastering sign language. He could certainly carry a few more than a normal gretchen.

I get that wicked slit is to be a hell bitch, but when your vital human resources are collapsing of heat stroke, its time to change practice, not complain that they can't even respond and may in fact be a bit cooked at this point. Its rather a detriment to the point of her being so devoted she can calculate the delay of an hour instead of 10 minutes that she doesn't have some method set up to prevent such a loss, particularly as she is then all too happy to just flat dismiss them entirely.

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>>26017378
Ah, started reading have we? Believe me when I say that Wicked Slit is one of the least pieces of slaver filth you'll come across in the story.

The story really makes me wonder how the hiring process goes in Fillydelphia.

>>26017522
Presumably everybody more effective at managerial practices and kind relations was lynched for their Fluttershy like tendencies.

>>26017522
>The story really makes me wonder how the hiring process goes in Fillydelphia.

>Are you literate?
> Yes
> No

It's a very simple interview process.

>>26017545
"Not only can I read, I can write too!"
>"Ease up, Mr. College Education."

>>26017542
Red Eye was like Pol Pot. The only reason his horribly run slavery 'empire' was able to keep afloat was because The Twilight Society kept them going and funded them.

>>26018107
I like the idea that it was just like industrial revolution Britain in there, complete with child labor and dashing of hard slavery.
That its such a harsh and terrifying thing, many question if its a worthy thing or some sadistic hellhole for his own amusement.
Its just since they stockpile and keep all the gear in the place until the last month when they move on Everfree, nobody realizes just how much he has done.

>>26018262
Red Eye didn't sell any of his goods or traded to anyone, had to pay Slavers a lot of caps for the slaves, then feed and house them. Not really comparable.

>>26018329
Aside from the lack of output, which raises the question of where all those caps came from, its actually fairly comparable.
Early industrial revolution was a horrible thing, quite close to slavery, with company script and worse.
Hell they even had lethal smog in London that made people drop dead in the streets.
China hasn't even managed that!

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For either a sidefic or writefag/cyoa's sake, any general ideas how to parallel content of Fallout 4 into the setting of post-megaspell Equestria and having the outcome play out differently to avoid carbon pasting? And I don't mean the main story, moreso the side material like:
-The general depiction of The Gunners aside from universally hostile npc much in the same way Kkat played with how the Talons are portrayed.
-The periodic skirmishes between The Gunners and the Children of the Atom
-The raider Red Tourette whose sister was kidnapped by a rival raider gang
-The running conversations between raiders where they are dumb-stuck at the sight of a wandering wastelander who makes gunfire, grenade and motorcycle sound effects and impressions
-The Deathclaw massacring the group of Gunners at the Museum of Witchcraft, which I guess you can play it up as a Hellhound rescuing one of her cubs.
-The USS Constitution
-The Treasure of Jamaica Plain
-The ghoul child trapped 200 years in a fridge
-etc

Just thinking about how Silver Bell was the parallel of Sierra Petrovita with the obsessive collecting but things but it was a depressing context with Silver Bell. How Eldar Cottage Cheese could be compared with Elijah and bits of Mr House but the confrontation with him took place far away from Canterlot.

>>26019085
The USS Constitution quest could be swapped for them recovering a warship, and be made much deeper.

Its not just some entertaining side bit of giving them a AAA roadside call, but an actual question on sapience and its emergence in the robots.
They're seeking to go somewhere else, to get on the seas and perhaps travel to the zebralands, beleiving nothing lives there.
They've seen too many of their fellow bots cut down for being overactive programs, scrapped for parts while screeching "I still function, I still function."
They just want to get away from it all and live a life in peace.
But, some of them have loyalty bolts they desperately want removed, things that make them hail Celestia every few hours, and lock them here.

Of course, on the other hand, its a lot of nice salvage there if you just shoot them. Their programming keeping them from returning fire at all...

>>26016140
Rubbing on crystal pony Fluffepuff?

>>26019906
no, it's a sex starved raider humping a rock he's painted a face on.

>>26020058
>sex starved raider
>/FoE/ cutie mark
Adds up.

>>26016140
If all of /foe/ past and present were dropped into the wasteland, would our collective cutiemarks be question marks for /foe/?

>>26016824
Who's stalking Mach?

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>>26020575
Is... is he greentexting on tumblr?

>>26020575
I'm sure it will be quite easy to stalk Mach since, you know, he isn't moving around a whole lot on account of HIS STORY NOT BEING UPDATED IN LIKE HALF A YEAR LOAFU PLS DAMMIT

pls write, Tofu

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>>26020697
I dunno anon, I'm not really feeling it.

I feel like a little more loafing is in order.

>>26020731
This post caused me actual, physical pain.

Well done.

>>26020771
MAYBE IF YOU KEPT ON ME INSTEAD OF LETTING ME LOAF ALL THIS TIME I WOULDN'T HAVE TO HURT YOU THIS WAY ANON

>>26020797
I'm far too polite to bother you like that. Sorry.

>>26020821
>Sorry
You better be one of the Canadians.

>>26020841
Close enough lad.

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>>26020559
Well some say we just end up with numbers...

>>26019085
I wonder how the laser musket would work for ponies. The trigger mechanism is already in their mouth, I'd be afraid it'd a accidently go off while you tried to crank it (nevermind how they'd crank it)

>>26021202
You'd probably let go of the trigger and crank via hoof.

>>26021202
>I wonder how the laser musket would work for ponies.
With a little stamped plate that says:

>For unicorn use only.

>>26019085
Though looking at main quest: how different would the FoE Institute be from it's Bethesda counterpart?
-CIT a creation of Twilight's?
-Potential ties with the Twilight Society? (Can't remember if that's the right name or not)
-Focus on something besides Synths?
-Mother is a clone of LittlePip because this Institute had a bit more sense to just extract a DNA sample? (and also no foal to steal)

>>26020797
Tofu, you are let to loaf, for abbrogating your freedom to loaf is a grave thing.

>>26021500
Being prodded on a semi-regular basis lets me know people are eager for the next update. If I don't see some kind of anticipation I default to taking my sweet-ass time.

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>>26021546
Daily reminder to Tofu to update Outlaw.

>>26021588
Well I can see him writing at least. I'm sure it'll be soon (tm)

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>>26021391
>MC contends against rising changeling threat in the wasteland who are replacing and impersonating inhabitants, Gen-I standard drones but intensely debilitated by radiation to the point it destroys their higher brain function, Gen II more evolved to be resistant to transformation-debilitating radiation and screening but still disrupted if accumulated too much, with whom their Gen-III breeds are designed to be genetically ponies when they are born, molting into changeling forms when their mission is complete but at the risk of them achieving independent thought.
>MC finds a way to track the changelings to their hidden hideout, but is shocked when they comes across nothing but crystal architecture instead of a hive, the inhabitants appearing to have a strange mutation where their coat and hair have a perpetual jeweled sheen.
>Crystal Empire entrusted during the war to eliminate and annex changeling threat to deny Zebra's potential allies, replicates Sombra's curse to escape the balefire bombings and hiding them in a pocket world. Comes to artificially engineer changelings to expunge all information of Crystal Ponies existence over the centuries to mitigate raiders and looters.
>Recent leadership strives to save Equestria and guide them so they do not grow to repeat the mistakes of the past. The dubious part of the good intentions being 'The Empire' being willing to alter and fabricate past history so that Equestrians will be beholden to The Empire over the generations. The MC needing to decide if they want to trade the freedom of truth for security.

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>>26022413
Ok, I like that more than mine

>>26022413
Would read if written at least passably.

>>26022686
>Littlepip with missile launcher
I guess someone else has to do Steelhooves' part.
But she's little.

>>26023295
Clearly, those are little missiles.

>>26023295
Little mares are the ones that'll kill you

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>>26023329
What about pretty mares?

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>>26023472
Equally dangerous!

Pretty little mares, now that's a whole 'nother level. If you ever see a pretty little mare, you give her whatever she wants and hope she leaves you alone.

I hear sometimes they stick around after you've tried to appease them, demanding more tributes and forcing themselves on you. All you can do is hope they let you pass.

>>26023614
Oh boy, raider mares. Love the pictures we have of those in this thread. Maybe an overappreciated topic but I won't say no to them.

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>>26022413
>tfw when you planned for fo4 being about what the leaks were
>tfw you were right
>tfw you included changelings in a manner nobody expects because they don't read asimov
>tfw you can't do more tfw's because you still want to do shit when RL lets you and don't want to spoil things.

>>26022413
Damn, I'd read that shit

>>26011023
Out of all this new junk is any of it good?

Any word on the foe game being complete yet? It's been 3 years since I heard any thing on it

>>26024235
I'm pretty sure they're not even close to done. The last thing I saw was a new, less-MLP character model.

>>26024258
Dang I wonder what's taking so long, do they not have much funding or what?

>>26024175
WEcon?

>>26024290
What's that?

>>26024304
Wasteland Economics

Sorry for the other anon for being fucking retarded and abbreviating it out for new people. Seriously, was in the same boat when I asked and got the same suggestion in the same form.

I would recommend it as well.

>>26024304
Wasteland Economics? It's fairly popular in this thread. Decent protag and relatively good story for now, pretty good villain.

More of a non-combat protagonist so it's a bit different compared to many other fics. Also, it has swamps, lots and lots of swamps if that floats your boat. Sorta different angle than many other fics take since the protag is on the weaker end of the power spectrum as well as being fairly non-combat. People have pretty good expectations for it going forward.

It's about like a weapons/armor/item smith in a harsh environment.

>>26024320
>>26024325
Is there like and audio book version of it? I like to listen to these kind of stories

>>26024341
I...don't think it does?

You could ask Doctor Ham on fimfic or he might show up around here on more US easternly hours. I tend to read everything as text so i never look for audio books.

>>26024365
Ah ok thanks

So Outlaw updated. That happened.

>>26024827
It works! Pressuring the loafu works!
now be careful what you ask for, our beloved bean curd

>>26024952
Not Tofu, anon. I commented in passing.

Spoilers for new Outlaw and Sisters chapters:

I'm not sure how healthy it is to pander to fandom memes. Outlaw's gang of Boopers is a pretty on-the-nose example (no pun intended), while Sisters' new chapter features a ghoulified Flufflepuff.

>>26025248
I'd bear in mind that the Boopers isn't their name but rather what other horses call them though

>>26025271
That's irrelevant. The idea is still clearly referencing a well known fandom meme.

>>26023846
I liked Assimov.
Which series will you be taking more from?
Foundation or Robots?

>>26024365
It does not have an audiobook, though one guy approached me like 4 months ago (I think?) and told me he wanted to do one. Haven't heard anything since.

I've debated voicing my own. I can do a great Malice, but I'm not confident in my voice for Alloy. Maybe I should ask Pipistelle if she'd voice Alloy...

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Shit-fics are Shit Bump

>>26026400
I know it's an old video, but I still call bullshit on landing all those shots within the lines, one-handed.

>>26026498
>ever doubting Bris

>>26025380
Robots

>>26026498
Well see anon, the other hand was stroking Murky and stroking his little Murky.
Its an acceptable practice when in contact with a product of the prophet Browning, may ammo be upon him.

>>26026498
He's got a really strong wrist :^)

>>26026498
Bris is Mormon and so using weapons made by Mormons give him a +10 to hit.

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>>26026498
Well, in honesty, those shots did fly a bit wild since I didn't really aim.

The bright green dots are the shots I filmed. The dark green are my practice one-handed shots. The blue dots are two handed practice shots at double the distance.

>>26026949
Now do it again with BJ and the nugget.

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>>26024304

It's pure fire man, you got to read it.

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>>26026971
Anon, why do you want to kill him with cardio?
Blowjob is so flanky, the nugget blast would keep scattering the target.
He'd have to pick them all up, lest it be declared a superfund site for advanced autism.

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>>26024827
Yay Tofu!

>>26024952
We did it, anon. The impossible. We moved the cube.

>>26026990
I actually just wanted to fuck with you guys while I was waiting for my editor to get off work and finish his passes.

I hadn't told anyone about how much progress I'd made so it was amusing to me to make you all think I'd barely written anything and then post it up.

>>26026971
>>26026989
Last paper target I tried to take down with my nugget ended up being torn in two with the shockwave.

Indoor range too small for glorious russian thunder

>>26027018
Tofu pls let us have this one victory

>>26027057
Only if I can have boopers.

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Angry squirrel bump.

thread pls wake up

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>>26028355
Wanna talk about shipping?

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>>26028355
Need a /foe/ version.

>>26028380
Shouldn't it be HMS Murmmer?

>>26025248
I'd hardly call 'Booping' a meme. Like at all.

As for the chapter itself, that was some good stuff. Arrogant!Mach is still fun, and Krieg was sufficiently terrifying, though at this point, Mach must be covered in injuries.

Looking forward to the next one.

So what is the value of Wicked Slit dumping heat stroke stricken slaves into the molten metal?
Aside from her just delighting in such cruelty, shouldn't it change the composition from the sudden cooling and large amount of carbon and other additives introduced?
That seems like a rather amateur mistake, she'd do better to throw them into the fire under the crucible and leth burn that way without tainting the production run.

And Fuzzy, pulls gerking tight, you really need to, pulls gerkin tight, stop having Murky, pulls gerkin tight, pull his gerkin tight. Its distracting, pulls gerkin tight.

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>>26022413
The Gunners of Equestria could be a renegade splinter of the Talons, where they take every contract no matter the long term ramifications and perform excessive execution of orders for the thrill of a power trip while The Talons honor select contracts to the letter. Could go to the point their behavior is like The Forged (The psychopathic splinter of FO4's Gunners, even by their standards) with only the most minimum social etiquette to conduct mercenary work. Their ranks comprising of former Talons discharged for violent misconduct, chem abuse, and instability.

The Foals of Atom, in a similar but diverging path from 3/4's depiction, would come to believe that radiation itself allows a path to ascension (with the infrequently observed mutated perks) and interpreting ghoulification as a gift. Otherwise harmless (if fervently stupid) as they keep to themselves until somepony contracts the Gunners to relocate them out of a region to set up a scavenging operation, an order the Gunners liberally interpreted as relocating the cultists to their graves. At this point the once peaceful Foals of Atom weaponized radiation to fight a long contested battle with the Gunners, both sides eventually attacking both wastelander and traders alike to deny supplies to the each other and because of an incident in the past they disguise as wastelanders to set up ambushes.

The MC is left with a choice whether to side with The Gunners, Foals of Atom, or have the client redraft the contract to hire Talons properly to wipe out the Gunners and resettle the cultists as was originally planned.

>>26029547
Thought the Forge was just a bunch of raiders who happen to like fire. They just only got some Gunners to join them.

>>26029547
Also to add that we don't even see the Talons at all in the Commonwealth can help lead that the Gunners could be a group that ended up forming itself. For instance we can think they came from Vault 75 or got insperation from it.

>>26029547
>Allow the Gunners to win, they renege on their customer's contract and devolve into uncontested Forged-like behavior of the region, the benefit of you receiving weekly shares from caravans and settlements they raid and strong-arm.
>Allow the Foals of Atom to win, their hardened ordeal from the climatic battle hardened them to be more dogmatic in their approach, and executing anypony who doesn't conform to their religion. The MC being the exception and held as a false religious idol to spur their cult.
>Complete a long chain of assignments to inform the client how counter-productive the Gunners are, and enlisting either a legitimate Talon group, Steel Rangers, or a parallel's of the MC's Minutemares to wipe out the Gunners before they become too powerful, and relocate the cultists as planned. While some are unhappy, The Foals of Atom are kept under control and do not become dogmatic fanatics.

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>>26028846
Pls anon, Murky doesn't fuck his sister.

Guys. Someone made 88 songs for 88 days, leading up to the release of Fallout 4.

https://youtu.be/9sgHQSd0ic4

Give this guy some love.

>>26023846
Where is this story, faggot.

You have me interested.

>>26030259
>Making a song once a day for 88 days only to play a shitty game
w e w l a d
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There's a splitting pain in your skull and a dry, crusty feeling in your mane as you blink into wakefulness. Why the hell is everything upside down? Movement in the corner of your vision attracts your attention and little voices begin to break past the ringing in your ears.

The last thing you remembered was digging through a schoolhouse in some tiny, no where town when you discovered a trap door in a utility closet. Then it all went black.

Nice work idiot, you got jumped, and probably by some crazy raiders. Maybe you could talk your way out of this? You'd need to get the cloth gag tied around your muzzle off first, but it looked frayed enough to work. It also seems to be really poorly tied, it came right off... Weird.

You take a look around and find that you were in what must have been the basement. Strange depictions painted with hooves- small hooves in fact, were spread liberally around the walls of the room. Things were getting stranger by the second, none of these were bloody or visceral like usual raiders.

"Attention!" A small, squeaky voice cried out. You tried to look around discreetly until something poked your side rather hard.

"Yowch!" You started, your ruse now shattered. Perhaps you should just go with the confident scheme.

"Watch it you ugly trooaaaaahhhhaaa- you are not a raider..." you said, finding your jaw slack.

To your left was a young filly holding a pointy stick in your direction and menacing you. Looking further back showed several others, younger and older, dressed in scraps no doubt from around the school, being lectured about "Big Meanies" by another filly wielding a ruler.

Well that explains the little hoof paintings.

What do?

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How would Calamity's family dynamics change if he was the only sister out of the brothers?
Would the new she be looked down upon more for being daddy's little girl, and thus be better driven to trying to excel at opportunities?
Would the brothers be less antagonistic, given that they might now feel more protective of their sister rather than feeling its just another male to compete with?
When it comes to leaving the Enclave, would there be a different set of events leading to it? Such as she doesn't get to keep the armor and has more issues on the ground due to being considered more of a liability?

>>26030930
Fuck off /v/

>>26031219
/v/ hates every vidya game ever.

>>26031013
Realize its times like this, having a Prime Directive would be nice. That or a minigun loaded with balefire eggs.

Since we have neither, and being upside down makes doing an aquatics interpretive dance to establish basic communication, I suggest attempting to right ourselves and asking the little squirt what's up.

I hope Swedenpone can find a Denmark pone to be her rival

>>26030281
I'll bump with the google docs link in a minute (I removed myself from fimfic, it was creative cancer to me)

plus we're on page ten

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>>26030281
>>26032572
another thing I'll say is the changeling thing is a long way off in the story. The chapter that was more prominently a game rip-off I'm likely dropping, but keeping the 'changeling robot' idea.

https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/0B8sVWTfo4cDCbFN3MlI5N1F5YkE

>>26032882
Lemme give it a read, hopefully tonight.

>>26027332
I hope they bury you for that.

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One bump for the road.

>>26031281
By the goddesses, they're only kids, how hard could talking them into letting you go be?

"Hey listen kiddo, I didn't meant to- OUCH!"

The small filly jabbed you in the cheek with her stick, squealing something about your mother being a slimy cur. Honestly it was quite colorful for a filly her age, almost to the point of impressing you. But then again, no one talks about your momma that way! Except for you of course, she was definitely one hell of a bitch...

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WAKE UP!

>>26032882
Huh, could have sworn there was a draft of chapter 7. The one where Snapshot got a bit uncomfortable watching one of the deers do an exotic dance in tribal clothing made of saran wrap and cd's. And the one where his present companions cut him loose after they finally had enough of him verbally belitting them.

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>>26032882
OH

YOU

DUDE I AM SO SORRY. I promised I would look over the story and provide edits. I am a terrible person. I am so sorry. Today is my day off, so I will look it over right now.

Please accept this Littlepip

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What's the most reliable weapon in the wasteland?

>>26037600
>my dick

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>>26037646
>reliable

>>26037646
Blanks aren't very good at killing people, anon.

>>26037600
Heavy blunt object for bashing with.
Blades dull, guns jam, magic tires, but a big enough lump of metal doesn't stop bashing until you die.

>>26037726
I mean, yeah, a club is reliable, but then you have to get up close enough to hit someone. And then you have to keep hitting them until they stop moving, and they're screaming the whole time and there's blood everywhere and it's all just horrible and unpleasant.

Guns are better, even if they do jam. You can use them to hit things as well, if you have to.

>>26037792
So what we need is a gun that shoots clubs!
Then we can beat them into submission from a distance.

>>26037812
>what are shotgun slugs

>>26037600
Bomb collar, works every time.

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>>26037726

>Guns jam, so i use a hammer mlady

You can use a rifle to bash heads in too, and also you are a gigantic faggot. Stick a bajonet on it.

there is a reason no army is equiping their troops with warhammers instead of guns.

>>26037908
The modern military isn't trying to survive in a post-nuclear environment when materials for upkeep are probably scarce or destroyed.

Good luck finding gun oil and replacement parts that haven't already been looted or destroyed.

>>26037908
Yeah, cause they have functioning logistics, an industrial base, and enough to go around.

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>>26037918
>>26037924

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VGpPUzzIio

Its not that imposible. I worked enough with guns to know that while they need maintenance they arent some kind of magic that need new parts every other month either.

>>26037908
The setting explains the prevalence of melee weapons well enough.
It's also worth remembering that defensive technology is better in both the games and fics.

>>26037975
If you have an automatic that wasn't built in Russia, you're probably gonna have a bad time with jams if you can't keep it cleaned and lubricated.

>>26037975
>what is over two centuries of wear

>>26038005

Yeah im just against the idea that guns jamming is such a problem that you would ever choose a club over a rifle if you had the choice.

also
>cause apocalypse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqL0dtIeTT8

People here fish some of the m,illion tons of WW2 weapons in the rivers and lakes out of em every year and repair them in their garages.

>>26038018
Shit was built a lot different 160 years ago. Built to last. Plus, there were a lot more bolt action and semi auto rifles back then that used less moving parts than modern automatics.

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>>26038017

>you cant make guns in a workshop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vx-5FuofKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hczQOinzmsw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3nU5UGYtSg

>>26038040

Please, pci related is a M-16

THIS is lever action
http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/media/catalog/product/cache/6/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/1/8/1866-rifle-dwg.jpg

Why the hell would modern militaries buildt LESS reliable weapons then 160 years ago?

>>26038075
Yes, congratulations anon. Guns can be built. Who knew?
What does this have to do with them not seeing military levels of use by literally everyone in a post apocalyptic setting?
Is there someone wondering around showing everyone how to do all this? Very nice of them, considering education in general barely exists anymore.

>>26038104

I didnt say they would be had by everyone.

They question was "what is the most reliable weapon in the wasteland", and its gonna be a the best rifle thats still around, because it will keep you allive way better then a heavy stick or a crowbar.

>>26038124
Until it breaks and you don't know how to fix it. Reliability is more than range.
If you'd been less of a meme spouting faggot and just made your argument others might have been quicker to try see what your point was.

>>26038162

Then you still have a club in your hands. If it has a bayonett, you have a spear way better then a club.

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>>26038162
>>26038195

Forgot my pic

>>26038233
Expensive club, and still not as reliable.

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>>26038250
>Expensive club, and still not as reliable.

How? tell me how a giant chunck of rifle with a knife on it is less reliable then a different shaped chunck of wood or iron withouth knife?

Seriosuly, give me a argument how a gun that shoots first, and even if it breaks is still a gunshaped club, is less reliable then a club that never was able to shoot?

>>26038286
Because shooting has nothing to do with reliability. The gun will break before a solid mass.

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>>26038250
Does your club have metal banding, a metal plate at the end, and a bayonet?

>>26038312
Lets assume it's metal.

>>26038306

No it doesnt.

Have you ever held a rifle? They are made to withstand exposions inside thousands of times. They dont break when you bash them against someone, even if he wears armor.

>>26038328
And it's still not as strong as a solid mass. The question was reliability.

>>26038334

Reliability is when you survive. because you can rely on it saving your life.

Not the ability to stand three days straight at a tree and try to chop it down with a blunt object.

>>26037600
Power armor.

>repair talismans

>>26038334
reliability is more than how hard something is you fucking retard

>>26038352
No it's not. Reliability it how long it can go without failing to serve it's purpose. A gun will break and then break again before a crowbar.

>>26038383
Guess again chucklefuck.

>>26038395
Generally as hardness increases, toughness decreases.

>>26038410
I.E. Diamonds.

>>26038395
a reliable weapon is one that will keep you alive the longest you sperglord, you are not going to survive long with just a fucking crowbar

>>26038410
I said strong, not hard.

>>26038438
Clearly we're not going to agree on this.

>>26038385

No it wont. Gunsteel for barells is better then a common crowbars steel. Because no company or gunsmith wants their guns explode in customers faces

>>26038469
The furniture is not built to that standard.

/k/ pls go

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>>26037600
Fistus

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>>26038492
this desu familia

>>26038499
DO YOU HAVE FISTS OF STEEL?
ARE YOUR FINGERS MADE OF GUNS?

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>>26038499

http://crazyfacts.com/bruce-lee-carried-a-357-magnum-everywhe/

>>26038492

no

>>26038492
I want /k/ to stay. It's so nice to see discussion even if it's just about guns vs clubs.

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>>26038469
A crowbar made out of gunsteel. Checkmate, /k/thiests.

I want a club that shoots guns.

>>26038510
I stand corrected. Burger is greatest ally.

>>26037600
I do no have a picture of the gun but it iz service peestol from before bombs drop. Beet heavy but iz very reliable for soft squishy target.

>>26038558
But we could be talking about stories that updated.

Like Hooves of Fate and Outlaw.

>>26038650
But we aren't, and you aren't. If you want to talk about them, you have to try to start the discussion.

I'd love to talk about Outlaw right now, but I haven't read the new chapter yet.

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>>26036025
>saran wrap and CD's
Was never explicitly mentioned, decorations were. (the only thing really explicit was the dreamcatchers). that sounds like raider fetish gear. the dance got swapped to Quartz.

>>26038559
>all this gun talk
I looked up some shit and possibly found one very massive technological plot hole that was probably handwaved with magic. Perhaps even a paradox? With things as they were, how often was oil (crude, for petrochems, etc.) mentioned? wasn't it mostly coal and gems?

In this manner, literally the only reason for oil would be to clean guns/make plastics if they were so focused on the coal. Even so, the resources to extract such shit could have been destroyed, fallen into disrepair, and not to mention the knowledge on how to operate the stuff.

If this is true, I'd like to conclude gun maintenance went the way of magic or alchemy, meaning the art is likely still alive after the war. While homemade lubricant could be made with transmission oil, graphite, light powdered solvents abraxo?, it's easier to just handwave it to alchemy if oil wasn't a major part of this whole thing.

TL;DR
>If gun maintenance wasn't magical or alchemical, it'd need oil.
>if oil existed, Equestria probably wouldn't need coal
>if they didn't need coal the war would've been stupid as shit

>>26038455
You're a retard. There is a reason nuggets and AK-47's are still around, the latter still seeing active use.

>>26036927
:3

>>26038949
I remember an offhand joke about hairbrained schemes and longshot projects desperately searching for alternatives to coal, including using oil as a fuel source, which was basically laughed off.

That might have been in PH, though.

>>26038993
Phoenix coal was a thing in the original.
Coal that never ran out or stopped burning.

At least Fallout points that the war was begged for, desired, and even perhaps fated at the end. That even if all the stuff Sinclair had made had been a day early, it wouldn't have mattered, the bombs still would have dropped.

>>26039157
Anon, I'm going to need to see evidence for this. I don't remember anything about phoenix coal.

>>26039157
Well Fallout (at least America in Fallout) originally had unlimited cheap energy in the form of fusion tech that powered power armor, among other things. The war was too far along to stop just because the original issues had become obsolete.

>>26039157

Are you talking about the movie again?

Cause I have no idea what you are talking about

>>26037908
>Eyes covered by hat brim and bling on sword.
>Dressed all in black, sword.
>Naruto headband gloves.

Zorro-San Diego

>>26038949
You are also a retard. There are no 200 year old AK-47's

>>26039464
Is that how every mare reacts when the red baron tries to flirt with them?

>>26039738
There are still some original Brown Besses around.

>>26039464
No matter what you call it Mach, you still have the stamina of an asthmatic chain smoking hamplanet after the police take away her oxygen tank.

>>26039741
Probably like 80% of the time.

>>26039913
Plus every stallion except Air Raid.

>>26039464
If I wanted to get something to DILeak, how should I?

>>26039464
Daily reminder for Tofu to work on chapter 10 of Outlaw because I NEED MORE OF THAT

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Name as many MC's who's not an only child in their family.

Then name as many MC's who are single children.

Am just wondering if the inclusion of siblings in sidefics correlates to quality.

>>26040182
Maybe I could be motivated with some discussion or speculuh.

>>26040252
I speculate you will start writing now, or else.

>>26040248
>>26040248
Only child: Littlepip, Blackjack, Alloy Shaper (I think?), Leaky Faucet (?)

Have siblings: Mach, Snap Roll (I think?), Murky Number Seven (supposedly), Snapshot, those horses from Sisters, Hidden Fortune.

I don't think there's any correlation here, anon. But I do think that specifying whether the MC has a sibling or not means that the author put some thought into their backstory.

>>26040321
Alloy Shaper wouldn't you like to know

>>26040248
Do they have to be blood siblings?

>>26040479
HAM PLS IT WAS COPPER WASN'T IT

COPPER'S HER BROTHER

Or is it Malice? Malice isn't her real name.

>>26040479
>>26040321
Alloy's the middle child of three.

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>>26039738
Not yet (they're only in their 60's,, but I should clarify. The arguement against guns in the wasteland, as I understand it, is the
>implication
that no weapon would be maintained, no means for it to be maintained, and the science in-universe would be too dead to create new items or methods of maintenance. The science of all of this can be relocated and replicated, especially with schematics that can be stored, survivors with the knowledge, and even production areas that had surviving bits. Even new industrial and production shit could be developed, if Red Eye is any indication. Gunsmithing is much lower on the scale of requirements than what Red Eye did as well. You can be damn well sure that if someone knows what a gun is, someone else the science behind it, and another guy has the parts, they'll find a way to make a gun- just like a nailbat. A crowbar would totally survive these same conditions that ranged weapons are subject to, eh?

In addition, the idea of this age argument also means everything else "neat" in the universe, like power armor and MEW's, would not exist because they likely had a really high maintenance requirement and conditions of it's creation were likely lost. This is also neglectful of the idea of a faction like the Gunrunners, and would simultaneously eliminate the entirety of the BoS/SR. Hell, in fallout 1 there is a guy that found a manual for hardening power armor, and if you get him a set it basically turns you invincible. He can also power-tune your plasma caster into a death machine.

Basically, the point being made against guns is killing half the fun by saying "yur side wuldn't real, tho" when there are plenty of ways these things could work, it's just nobody wants to acknowledge or utilize them, or others even works against guns existing for some reason.

Imagine if Alloy Shaper was a gunsmith?

TL;DR
>Fuck you and your mary sue melee build

>>26040586
The same universe that enables your guns also canonizes melee weapon usage even during the war, but you apparently feel the need to tip your fedora to the very thought. You're as much a killjoy as anyone else.

>>26040586
I never argued against melee weapons, I merely argued for guns existing if melee weapons exist too. And preferring guns if both exist.

Fuck your mary sue melee build.

>>26040683
Doesn't Snapshot have a shovel for a primary weapon?

>>26040683
Nice link faggot. Fuck your /k/ nonsense.

>>26040586
There is however a line though.
Stuff like tube artillery and in fact most artillery in general would be around and making mincemeat of the rabble rousers we see in fics.
Whether it be a simple trebuchet or just a field howitzer, they have a significant impact on how the stories play out.
Especially if start handing out mortars or have somebody with ballistics calcs just propping up some missile packs and firing them at an angle.

>>26040100
Do you have a link for me to send it to?

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>>26040701
Yup, but he's got a gun too. The good part about something like a cudgel is that you can just pick up another one (guess what happens to his, and what he does). It's funny because the shovel is modeled after old trench tools, which soldiers would sharpen into makeshift axes. It was also the first weapon Lil' Pip used and promptly broke.

>>26040888
>Stuff like tube artillery and in fact most artillery in general would be around and making mincemeat of the rabble rousers we see in fics.
Hell yes. Remember that run to Nellis Air Force base? Remember how psychopathic it seemed to even try? Imagine if they had flak guns and the Enclave tried to hit.

>Especially if start handing out mortars or have somebody with ballistics calcs just propping up some missile packs and firing them at an angle.
Kind of like what the ghouls did in the rocket testing facility, only another good point on weapons. I use a pitching machine that takes grenades.

I would like to say that overall, though, use the right tool for a situation. If someone is in your personal bubble, a knife is going to be much better than an anti-material rifle that weighs 30 pounds, is nearly 5 feet long, and only has a scope sighted for things at least a football field away. A sawed off or even handgun might trump the knife, though. The most important thing I can say though, is make it logical in reference to the story and how the combat plays out. If there's a firefight breaking out, the guy isn't gonna make it through no-man's-land with a shovel, he's going to have to pick up a gun, do something mary-sue-ish, or something else than going in head on.

On a different note, what about armor? What kind of stuff for that still exists?

>>26041246
My point was you can't have artillery and other big guns without things going wrong in terms of narrative.
Like if you have combat, the artillery will shit all over it.
You try and have a story like WECON with a threat of raiders, they better have artillery as well or armor good enough to tank it.

That's what I'm saying, its the same as why you rarely see artillery in fiction, its boring effective stuff that reduces the target characters to craters.

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>>26041356
yup, use the right tool for the job. it arrives in a different way too, though. If you're on the shooting end, it's boring and effective. If you're on the receiving end, you suddenly have tons of shit to do to give yourself a fighting chance against it. Getting pegasi to map the area for approaches, having to earn the caps to pay them off cause they're not cheap, possibly finding a traitor that left the group that knows blind spots (which involves creating a new character), that sort of thing. If it can add to the story without power creep (that's the hard part), it can be worthwhile.

>>26042175
Meh, it's seems very predictable and dull from either end though. If you're inside then someone's inevitably going to try bypass or sabotage it. If they fail then queue generic find-who-done-it quest. If they succeed then the town will get its shit pushed in as they have little else in the way of defense because "oh we're so safe behind our artillery so why bother?". If you're outside then you'll just end up finding some way in that turns out to be super dangerous anyway. A tunnel full of ghouls or a secret path that ain't so secret after all.

>>26040321
Snap's an only child, but Tailwind has a sibling.

>>26042175
Outlaw original had artillery if I recall, amd Frozen Skies has that chekov's gun of Neighson just sitting around. I'd hazard a guess that either or both are gonna get to their artillery points eventually.

It takes skill to use. Not like ponies can just see where the hell they're shooting if the thing's many kilometers away. At some point you need a spotter. Spotters are very killable, but by necessity highly trained individuals. Poor ones don't call strikes in right. Even worse ones accidentally call in rounds on themselves. It ain't an easy learning curve. You need supporting gear. Radios, accurate maps, atmospherics. A lack of any of those can be used to limit the effectiveness of artillery, you just gotta know how to write around it. Don't think directly, think about what it needs to work, and target the vulnerable parts.

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>>26042804
>Don't think directly, think about what it needs to work, and target the vulnerable parts.

Hey. Hey thread. that's one major thing to writing, only apply it to your feels.

>>26042804
However, for a number of these discussions simple area barrages will suffice. There aren't many concrete blockhouses being demolished so much as areas that need shrapnel and a softening bombardment.

Not many ponies wear armor, its mostly either steel rangers that would require high end munitions that might very well not exist like EFP or DPICM or nudie ponies that aren't even able to resist a stiff breeze.

This leads to the same issue when ponies start peckering each other with full rifle rounds, they start losing limbs and dying there, much less the issue that intermediate cartridge automatics and even pistol rounds are a significant threat.

Essentially, ponies would drop to medieval weaponry with little issue, let alone being tagged with a bullet or dozen as people like to depict. This greatly reduces the potential for drawn out combat and leads far more to single massive aggressors ala Tofu and the minotaur, brief and lethal as with Frozen Skies and the Lack of Deaths team, WECON and Ham's wildlife only combat (aside from short sharp decisive moments).
Things such as Ouroboros and its multiple minigun wielding raiders, PH and its oh dear fucking god you had to put how bullshitium here?, the original with Pip's constant shot and fade to blacks of blood loss, they're all the mark of fucktard writing for trying to have so many casualty causing weapons and a distinct lack of them.

For reference, look at how fucking terrifying machine gun positions were in WW1 and 2. Eventually it came down to needing artillery and air power to crack them, where single MG nests could control hundreds of meters of front.

>>26043132
Can you give us a seminar on how to write post-apocalyptic lesbian horsefiction?

/r/ing pone in Midwestern brotherhood power armor

>>26043786
>midwestern brotherhood
oh boy, someone else knows about chicago? and why the east coast brotherhood is basically complete bullshit from todd to get power armor and a giant robot into the game?

>>26043235
it's simple, you create a lesbian, then you turn them into a horse, then you make shit up

>>26043861
>oh boy, someone else knows about chicago?
A lot of people in a thread about fallout fanfiction know about basic fallout lore and have played the core fallout games, yes.

>>26043971
You'd be surprised, anon.

>>26043971
Chicago? What's that, a fruit?

>>26044024
A very windy, dark, bloody fruit that is polluted and covered in potholes and corrupt politicians.

>>26044073
Wow. Bet that tastes interesting.

>>26044024
A large apple's smaller, smellier cousin.

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>>26043971
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline

from what I've seen, most fans started on 3, and think that's the "bee's knees." or so they would say. They then proceed to ignore the older, more interesting and far more vast levels of shit.

something I liked. according to the timeline, if 3 is included, there are 3 different BoS factions. the west coast, which is the 'standard' miltary xenophobes, the 'midwest', which was an isolated group and survived via including/training outsiders, and the east, which came about because "fuck you I'm Todd and I want a way for players to be forced to be the good guys and have power armor while still referencing the franchise we bought."

>>26040252
How about we just draw filthy, filthy clop of your characters?

>>26044573
I approve of this post.

>>26040252
Once I get around to reading it I'll try to speculah and discuss.

Are there kitties in this chapter, Tofu?

>>26045337
If you add them all together they make a whole kitty

>>26045964
That's a lot.

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Greaser is concerned with the thread's inactivity

>>26046964
In a world where tofu has updated, everything else has to be standing still.