>listen to 2 years of /mlp/ pissing and moaning about the show going downhill after season 3
>just now watched seasons 4&5 in the span of a week
>enjoyed the show so much I tear up at the end of every episode
>Friendship literally became magic
>fucking loved the episode with Troublehooves
>totally fucking loved the entire situation with the CMC's earning their cutie marks
>cried like a bitch when they turned the roots of the Golden Oak Library into a chandelier for Twilight
>in stead of running the show into the ground when the main characters almost fully developed, the writers decide to give them the hardest, most rewarding challenge to face: helping others develop as well
>people are not happy with this
I guess some people just earn their cutie marks in whining like a bitch.
>>25802787
Just like some people like everything without any complain, because their lives are so unfulfilled and empty they literally have nothing else, like you.
>>25802828
The 8th grade called. It wants itsFUCKING EVERYTHINGback.
>>25802865
>Gets completely rekt
>All he can muster to say is you posted something like a 8th grader could
Alright, tell yourself whatever you need so you don't kill yourself.
>>25802787
For what it's worth, I agree with you. I was disappointed in four, but I think that five was handled very well indeed.
>>25802887
Tell Gindle I'm ready for round 2.
>>25802890
Anything specific about S4? S3 is where I was immersed the least. Mid season 4 felt like it had way too much appol in it for my taste.
>>25802908
Yeah, not an objectionable amount of apple, but definitely a bit apple-heavy. Mostly I just thought that they didn't know what the hell they wanted to do with princess twilight in four, and by five they figured it out.
>>25802887
you go boss, you sure showed him!
>>25802933
Now I can see this. Agreed.
We made it a whole 3 posts without pissing and moaning. Maybe we should quit while we're ahead, eh, fellow horsefucker?
>>25802936
second NR image I've ever saved
>>25802933
s4 is damage control for Twilicorn
s5 is general damage control
In the end the show lost points because the marketing has completely won and is the top priority over any kind of good storytelling or world building. At least in s1 they tried a bit.
ponyfag veteran here, been watching since S1 and here's my honest opinion on this shit;
Season 1 and 2 were the best, all in all considering it's what brought me into the show and was actually kind of nice to watch, Sarcastic Twilight was nice too (y'know, before she became princess mary sue)
Season 3 was just complete garbage imo, I didn't like any of the episodes, and only being 13 in total made it even more obvious that it was just a rushed piece of shit. There were some nice moments, but they don't make up for everything else. The princess shit was the cherry on top that made it even worse, as well.
Season 4 and 5 is... eh... honestly kind of disappointing
S4 just had lack of character, Twilight was completely different, has to refer to being a princess at least once an episode, has to be 100% serious, no sarcasm like I remembered her by, ruined.
And S5 was kind of alright, but the conclusion to a lot of the episodes felt empty. The only one I'll legitimately remember is the cutie mark episode, and that's because I was anticipating it for years. And even through the excitement, it felt a bit rushed, considering they get their marks in the last literal 3 minutes of the episode.
tl;dr In a veteran's perspective, after Season 2 ended the show just kind of dropped. My opinion may be shit to some, but oh well.
>>25802957
I want to press my luck and keep going.
Aside from twilight, I mostly liked four's individual episodes, even if they felt a little unfocused as a whole. They were trying out new things and it came off as a bit all over the place, but it set the stage well for five, which I liked quite a bit.
>>25802787
Most people agree that season 4 and especially season 5 are better than season 3.
>>25802787
I know you're a twifag and you know she hasn't been written well after S3
Correct me if I am wrong, but general consensus on /mlp/ appears to be:
Season one: GOOD
Season two: EVEN BETTER
Season three: DISAPPOINTING
Season four: BETTER THAN THREE, WORSE THAN ONE OR TWO
Season five: MASSIVELY DIVIDED OPINIONS
>>25803105
You're literally 100% accurate
Not even shitting
I know there's the shitty "well das jus liek, ur onion" meme but there's no better way to put it
>>25802987
Got on the ride in early season 2, before Derpy became canon. Not dismissing your stance entirely, but in the event that the early episodes are the best at anything at all, I hope you're taking into account what the early episodes are actually the best at.
The early episodes were warm, open-ended, inviting. The nostalgia and early formative hours of the show don't serve the same purposes as episodes nowadays. Maybe you're smarter than most and are completely aware of this, but a great number of people who hold the stance that the early seasons were superior simply are afraid to admit what I just illustrated.
>>25803082
Just giving you the (You) you worked so hard for.
>>25803009
Agreed once again. I saw season 4 was a lossless springboard for the rest of the show and still gripping on its own. I did like that they touched on more applicable end-of-show morals, though. Like how accepting lies can hurt you in the long run. That lesson alone is everything our species needs IRL.It's too bad I found that episode to be boring as hell up into the last ~5 minutes.
The finale of season 4 blew my mind, though. I wouldn't have been that upset if they ended it there, really, with friendship literally becoming magic and all.
>>25803191
>Just giving you the (You) you worked so hard for.
Not that anon, but thanks for showing off how pointless is to argue shit with you. All you really want is an echo chamber of hugboxing.
I shall take my leave.
>>25803217
It is quite pointless to argue with somebody who is right. When you're not interested in being right yourself, that is.
>>25803191
You make a fair point that the early episodes aren't god-tier, and there can be better episodes than the ones in season 1 and 2, but it's the nostalgia from watching since season 1 that makes me think back to how fun it was to watch the first episodes as they aired, and that I can't get them back. Kind of simulates a sort of "nothing can be better than those episodes I saw years ago" type of deal. Regardless, this is all an opinion game anyways. Maybe we can all have an agreement when the show is finally over.
>>25803243
Pic very related, bro.
>>25802787
I feel ya OPThe ride is only going faster
>>25803191
Yeah, that season four finale was amazing.
"Hey, we know that we haven't had any real clue about how to write Twilight as a princess, can we make it up to you with some weapons-grade awesome?"
>>25803243
They may not be god-tier, but I always seem to enjoy seeing people at the start of their journey a bit more than near the end. People are more interesting with all their flaws.
>>25803217
Don't go. We can discuss things like adults here. Tell me what you specifically object to.
>>25803270
pic related
>>25803272
Can you give me a really purposeful and calculated explanation as to why people insinuate that Twi was ever written in a way that suggested the writers didn't know what they were doing?
The way I see it, season 4 had the best of her. I know my obsessive Twifaggery is unmatched, but hear me out.
In a way, she is the de facto main character to a degree. She can't be treated like every other character. For the health of the show in general, she needs room to grow, trials to face, and flaws. Hence why I dismiss the people who call her a mary sue as complete fucktards; She has a worse track record for mental breakdowns and making mistakes than any other character in the show.
And really, isn't being somewhat flaky and transient in her character throughout season 4 just an additive to how well she really was written? She just became a princess. There's a great reason the writers might have seemed like they didn't know what to do with Twilight.
She didn't know what to do with herself, either. That's what the entirety of season 4 was about.
Got on the ride at season 5, watched all seasons. Can't say any season I hate nor really any particular episode but for one really.
I really hate the breezies episode. That one I just can't stand to watch. Every other episode either I get a few chuckles, enjoy it or it's meh... But even the meh episodes I may not always care to watch all the time,
I can't hate them.
>>25803272
Ponychan
>>25803321
If you want to say that the writers intended for her to not yet be comfortable in her position during season four, then yes, she was written perfectly fine. My objection was that I don't think that was the writer's intention.
>>25803357
Have we really gotten to the point where civility is so unacceptable that you don't even deem me worth the three greater than symbols it would take to tell me to fuck off properly?
>>25803321
I agree with you on many parts of your last statement. I too never felt Twilight as a Mary Sue and even though I can see the other side to a degree. As you stated, that bitch is flawed as hell.
But if not with out flaws, she would be a mary sue and flat as cardboard but she isn't. Twilight has quite a bit of depth as do all characters and I think why seasons 3-4 were so ill received was due to the new direction and story arc. Suddenly we were venturing onto new territory and outside ponyville as the characters were realizing a much larger purpose.
>>25803381
I guess I believe that too. I suppose I shouldn't be arguing as much as I should be pointing out that it was a godsend rather than a problem, unlike how most people present that fact.
Also, >>25803357 needs to get over their shrivelled cock
>>25803409
Amen. Fandom got scared. The show become what it was meant to blossom into, rather than perpetually remaining what drew them into it in the first place. Hope they can get over that.
>>25803381
Nigga, Twilight was always downplaying her status as princess, especially in the 2-parters
My god, it finally makes sense, it's not that /mlp/ is retarded enough to like S4 and S5.
It's just that S3 was so bad it drove away anyone with taste and now the majority here are brainless drone bronies like OP.
>>25803455
i loved that part of her personality, but then by the end of S5 she couldn't stop mentioning her title. damn you, shitty writers.
>>25803470
>>25803485
>>25803485
Because she finally saw what her purpose was as princess. She downplayed it a lot before because didn't feel like anything changed.
>>25802787
The show truly is incredible and it just blows my mind it can be so good for this long.
People saying it sucks, yet they still watch it and stick around talking about it. Yeah, you guys must REALLY hate the show.
>>25803523
I can finally communicate with nothing but reaction images.but i wont
>>25803527
This guy gets it.
*clears throat*
I serve a mare as good as yours.
>>25802787
>crying
>at a little girls show
Furthermore,
>crying
>period
Guys, I know we watch a show for little girls, and most of us have never done anything more physical than lift a mountain dew bottle, but Jesus Christ man the fuck up. The least you could do while being a faggot is not cry.
>>25803425
>>25803409
'Get over' Yeah like that would ever happen. Many still can't get over the alicorn thing. I still wonder is it the wings or the princess thing that ticks people the most off? (Rhetorical)
I do miss some of the more simpler every day slice of life but I do enjoy a good story. And what sucked me into MLP was curiosity of lore. I am a sucker for lore with in anything. And seeing how much greek influences of myth is sprinkled throughout the series, I am always on the look out for what new things they would introduce. But it hard to introduce new things if you are always at the same place. IE Ponyville. The map concept (even though reminds me of Fable III) Has this Round Table feel to it as well and drives the plot to go outside ponyville. Also makes ponyville seem that much smaller as it grows the drive of the main six as "you larger than you think."
>>25803555
>Implying everyone is a man
I cried tears of joy when the CMC got their marks. I loved that episode...
nobody gives a fuck about your shit opinions, y'all cant do shit to change the show
>>25803579
That's seriously really pathetic. I can understand tears if your dog died or something. Some sort of significant loss or legitimate real world impact. Anything less than that? No way. A show for little girls? That's just sad in its own respect.
>>25803555
You're way more of a faggot than those who you claim to be faggots for crying over the perfection that is MLP.
>not having emotions like a fuckin' retard who's brain is defected.
>>25803555
>watches My Little Pony
>draws the line at men crying tears of joy
My ribs are on a fucking grill.
Seriously, everyone point and laugh at this assclown.
>>25803582
Nobody gives a shit about you being the son of Needle Dick Larry, either.
>>25803615
This guy wins.
>>25803609
>>25803638
>>25803615
>>25803579
All these Anons gravitating to the right side this time. Makes me fucking proud.
>>25803564
Glad I loved Twilicorn from day 1. Or, should I say,episode 1.
>>25803628
apparently you do
>>25802787
I agree with this. Been on the ride since the end of season 1. While episodes are different now than what they were when the show started, I never saw the changes as being bad. Sure some episodes are better than others but every season has that. I have yet to find a season I didn't enjoy overall and I still enjoy each of the characters as they have evolved over time.
I guess one reason is because I don't over analyse the show, trying to break everything down into detail and picking it apart. Do that enough and you lose the magic that brought you into loving the show and the characters.
>>25803701
The others need to learn from you.
It's fun, though, being on my side of the line where you can hold every speck of the show under a microscope and only love it more.
>>25803701
Anyone can find tons of reasons to hate anything if they go out of their way to find them and look at details under a microscope that they would have otherwise not noticed or cared about at all.
>>25803564
Twilicorn will end in S6.
>>25803732
This is like, the genetically augmented offspring of Millhouse is not a Meme.
I've been watching MLP since before season 1 ended and I've loved it ever since. It really is one of the best kid cartoons I've ever seen and it means a great deal to me personally. Friendship really is magic.
A lot of people who complain about the show I feel are trying to sound cool get attention. Like any faggot who publicly hates on something generally well-liked.
>>25802787
I agree with you almost completely. I thought Troublehooves was okay.
But I really do think the series has gotten better.
>still sob uncontrollably every time I rewatch the CMCs get their cutie marks
>>25802828
/thread
>>25803757
This guy gets it.
>>25803775
I loved the Troublehooves episode so much because it alluded to the cutie marks I didn't even know they were going to earn at the time.
I only teared up when they earned them, but I love what they earned them in. It really does reflect my own life. I'm mature, in touch with myself, and easy to please. The only thing left for me in life is the rare opportunity to help other people find themselves as well. When the CMC earned their cutie marks in what I primarily did with my life, I was knocked off my feet.
I feel sorry for voluntarily blind people who weren't frothing at the mouth with approval of their cutie marks.
>>25803777
>>25802828
777 and double dubs, both wasted on waste for the sake of waste. What awaste.
>>25803615
>>25803628
>>25803638
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to say anything out of line. I'd totally understand if you left and went to your safe place. Do you want me to get you all some tissues too so you can unload those feelings while you're in there?
>>25803809
>The only thing left for me in life is the rare opportunity to help other people find themselves as well.
This is a new level of feels.
I think I'll have to reevaluate Troublehooves' episode.
But... yeah, I have to agree. S4 and S5 are the best yet.
If /mlp/ is dying, it's our own faults for hating them so much and not going in with the mind we had in S2.
>>25803821
>>25802787
>>25803775
Wow, other people who liked the Troublehooves episode. I don't get the hate, I enjoyed it.
>>25802787
There were some periods during seasons 3 and 4 that weren't strong.
I just watched the entire back half of season 5 over two days myself, and I agree that those had a lot of really good feels. Not enough to actually tear up, but some pretty good, strong, warm feelings.
Whatever hard patch people thought we were going through, I think it's over.
>>25803564
>>25803648
I always had a love hate relationship with Twilight. She reminds me so much of myself...It kinda scary. I always knew there was something bigger planed for twilight, after all, being a protege of a princess at a school of magic, as if there isn't something bigger.
The only thing that makes me tug at my collar is how quickly the show deals with antagonists, be it a threshold guardian, shadow or villain. And how there is even this Harry Potter feel as especially with the season finally, Twilight's friendship is what creates balance and order throughout equestia. That sorta a big thing to state. I get the whole snow ball effect they explained but there is this je ne sais quoi about it.
>>25803856
You're a poet
>>25803845
Jesus, /mlp/ doesn't hate S4 and S5, you people take it to the other extreme. S4 and S5 were received very well here, but there are flaws. Not every criticism is hate. And just because most people don't rate the CMC episode above 9/10 doesn't mean they hate it.
>>25803719
Heck I love the show because it is a cartoon, made for children. And yet, it uses fluid animation (even though sometimes some times it does looks stilted it still is of quality) Good writing. But most of all good direction.
I couldn't believe that the director would incorporate Film Theory into the show. From high key and low key lighting to Mise en Scene. And the more I see, the more I appreciate it for what it is.
>>25803845
I like the sound of my own voice, so I'll expand on that.
My preteen years were spent with zero responsibilities or worries, meaning my entire life was nothing but a constant pursuit of entertainment. It lead to a tendency to really bleeding out every last possible drop of amusement in everything I could get my hands on. Hobbies quickly stopped being enough for me and I had to look elsewhere for fulfillment.
I failed to find an adequate source of fulfillment for around 5 years and turned into a complete asshole. I even delved into homophobia. I became everything I hate in the world.
When I turned 16, I got this crazy idea in my head that in stead of crushing the emotionally distraught girl I had wrapped around my finger just to feel better about myself, maybe I could try using my manipulative grip on her to help her grow in stead.
2 weeks later, her older sister took her laptop for a few minutes and bawled her eyes out to me over Skype about how her little sister stopped cutting herself, stopped overmedicating, quit sleeping during the day and actually smiled a little bit and went outside and made friends.
Then she asked me: "Are you doing this?"
I looked in my mental mirror and saw A putrid soul who had a five year track record of reducing hurting other people to a science, and it hit me like a truckload of bricks: I had brought somebody from rock bottom with just words.
Nothing has ever hit me that hard. That really was the closest thing to earning a cutie mark that I'll ever have, and I'm more than fine with that.
God damn I needed to get that off my chest.
>>25803871
Somehow I factually recognize this has a good deal of applicablity to it, yet it doesn't phase me.
>>25803921
Really, the "made for children" song and dance is completely horse shit, isn't it?
Faust's primary vision for the entire show was to apply a strict, constant reminder that adults will be watching the show with their kids and that they should be having fun with it, too.
Sure, it has restraints placed on it so that society will let kids watch it. But there's nothing else infantile about it except some song lyrics and a few of the morals.
>>25802787
Don't worry, bro. I've been around since S1, and I still watch every episode the day it airs. If /mlp/ and the fandom at large are winding down a bit, it could just be that we're trimming away the fans of the fandom, the cloppers, and the bandwagon fags. We'll never have the magical feeling of "Holy shit this show is actually good how am I enjoying it this much" as when we first started watching, but I hopefully we'll whittle our way back down to the chill, awesome fanbase we had back in season one - the fanbase that really loved the show for what it was and nothing more.
>>25802828
Amen, i love you rainb- i mean anon..
>>25803984
Not to much yet does such things phase me, we just have to see the direction the show takes.
>>25804019
Another thing could be that the fandom is getting a lot more mature and calm after all the "OMG PONIES EVERYONE" and spamming pone all over the internet in 2011.
Since then we're a lot less open about it, but people like me are still very much enthusiastic about the show.
>>25804019
Okay, bro, but if are you implying "clopper" is a term for people who are only in the fandom for the porn, you are wrong
>>25804019
I wish I was there from the beginning, I really do. Agreed on the rest, though. The shitdicks are migrating away, and a lot of the best show discussion I've ever partaken in was post S5E1. It's really not getting worse.
>>25804041
Hopefully when it kills itself or just stops, people will realize that the vast majority of their involvement with the show was their fandom activities and their daydreaming. The show isn't about being loyal to a show. It's aboutfriendship.
>>25804040
>>25804057
I didn't notice what ^ this guy said. Seconded.
>>25804056
That infection-spreading, cult-recruiting period was fun, though.
>>25804069
"That infection-spreading, cult-recruiting period was fun, though."
Oh I totally fucking agree! haha. I was there for a lot of it and I loved carefree attitude everyone had back then. Nobody gave a fuck or took themselves seriously and it was fucking awesome.
>>25804089
Read that in 'Shy's voice.
God, you fuckers piss me off. I'm tired, I'm on a high from finishing all the episodes finally, and you have to strike up quality conversation WHEN I NEED TO BE SLEEPING.
SAVE THE CIVILITY FOR TOMORROW. SAY STUPID SHIT. TROLL. FLAME. DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, JUST STOP KEEPING ME AWAKEi love you
>>25803984
I see the show more "Family" oriented than "Children" oriented. Something a family could watch together with out it being complete rubbish.
Good Story, Good Animation, Good Direction and not complete smut with gore and cursing every 10 seconds? Unheard of in this day and age right? Really is a blessing to see a return to shows like this, and morals in a cartoon? Really if that is a reason to call any show infantile, gawd dang is noone here older to even know what the 90's was?
The age of the sitcom was the 80's -90's and every one had some moral to it. From Doogie Howser, to Family Matters, to Home Improvement, each had a moral. And music? heh musicals aren't infantile either. Even if it just is wrapping up winter. Some songs can be cheesy but they always are fun. It is what gives the show its charm.
Heck I know adults who still watch disney films and that is chock full of morals and music.
>>25804109
>>25803950
pRETTY INSPIRING MAN.
>>25802887
>Rekt
>Shitty comment with pleb-tier stuff
You are really cool anon I really think you are awesome, everyone wants to hang out with you
>>25802787
>Namefaggotism
Being this level of whore
>>25804125
>you will never witness a pygmy alicorn and pegasus hugging platonically
>>25804131
Your capslock usage has me on edge whether to brush you off in a silly way or extend my hugbox hand.
>>25804152
>avatarfag talking shit to a namefag
HORY SHET
>>25804170
Avatarfag? The image is just a meme autismo, not saying I'm the old fuck
>>25804170
That's not avatarfagging
>>25804058
>>25804041
But of course, When it comes to any story, one thing we all seek is closure. So no matter how far the story goes, we all seek an end that gives us that closure. Why things don't affect me "yet"
It would be a shame if it just ended abruptly
>>25804182
You're not saying you're the old fuck; I am. I know conversations are hard for the old folks to keep up with, but drink your ovaltine and have your nap and we can continue at a later date if that's easier for you, grandpa.
>>25804191
I refuse to believe that my insults are so sophisticated that so few people can catch onto them.
>>25804170
Not just a namefag but a newfag, "got on the ride in S2" bullshit, btw faglord the other thing I said about the anon that "rekt" you is sarcasm
>>25804208
Insult:you are old, what is this? 12-year old humor?
>>25804208
You refuse to believe you fucked up and got rightfully called out.
>>25804170
>I criticize board culture cuz I'm smart XDDD
look at my name :) I'm a snowflake
fuck off with your name
>>25804252
Now you're just making yourself look stupid in front of everyone. This is exactly why namefagging is frowned upon. Just accept you fucked up and move on.
>>25804267
/b/? You dont even know why was that board created right? You habe to be 18 older to post in this board, 0/10 meme points
>>25803864
I don't think most people hated it. At least for me I just thought it was boring. It does really benefit from Crusaders of the Lost Mark though.
>>25804268
This is exactly why I didn't give him a serious reply, you fucktard.
You are all pathetic fucks if you don't know that this faggot opinions and posts aren't worth shit and he is just like a toilet.
>>25804057
The cloppers that enjoy the actual show should be that much more ashamed. I guess I'm more hoping that the people "in the fandom" for clopping fuck off while the cloppers who watch the show get over the taboo/fetish and go back to fapping to regular porn. That way, I could feel comfortable about making candy vag and lesbian pone jokes for the first time in years.
>>25804267
>>25804268
I'm not being clever or putting a lot of volume into my replies. I'm not this interesting. Stop giving me so much attention.
There's this vicious cycle where, once a week, a wild pack of kids come out of the woodwork and develop a deep-seated addiction to my nuts. Usually it ends with 3-6 hours of them impersonating me and failing miserably.
I'm too tired for a flame war. Not gonna participate much longer. At least do something clever before it ends.Really, though, is there a form of more broadcasted bait than my name of all things? They're spoonfeeding me their tears. It's beautiful, it really is.
>>25804303
pic related
>>25804303
His mouth is like an asshole because everything that comes out of it is shit
>>25804289
Have*
>>25804315
Really hope this is some innovative form of bait.
>>25804321
No he himself is a toilet.
All he holds on the inside is shit, and more shit.And nothing more than shit, always and forever.
>>25804317
I think the bigger problem is your special snowflake mentality, your namefagging is only a mere consequence
>>25804345
Easy there, Glimmer.
>>25804330
It's not. Clopping is nasty.
Guise I choke on all dat thick horsecock cuz I'm a faggot
>>25804330
Look, I get you have a positive outlook, but in all honesty, the fandom wouldn't have been realized without season 1 and 2. And there would be no way in hell that the quality of season 3 through 5 was brought in the first place, there would be absolutely no fandom, without a doubt.
In all honesty, people are just tagging along just because. The show has already lost all that it had that was worthwhile. Now the writers are and Hasbro are just trying to gain from the success of the show.
But, no one has collectively cared as much. And it shows, you can't refuse the fact that people are really quiet. Sure, the fandom has grown, but only because of a long time of fans coalescing, just like Star Wars.
So, don't say something that isn't true. If something is shit, it's shit.
Hell, just look at the comics. Thats enough proof for ya.
I gotta go, so I have to post this before I leave
He is gonna say LOL I WAS JUST BAITING YOU ALL
Or he is gonna lie and say he wasn't, when he actually is.And I hope he is, because if he wasn't then I fear for humanity.
>>25804376
Get the fuck back to reddit, you sad faggot fuck
>>25804376
Can I get your opinion on the fact that I have personally determined that horse vagina tastes like uncooked pumpkin flesh?
>the fandom wouldn't have been realized without season 1 and 2.NOFUCKINGSHIT
>>25804382>>25804317
Before you say anything, everybody knows it's not the same guy, I think you saw that coming because of your name
>>25804376
Low-testosterone faggots are nasty.
>>25804382
Well, actually, I couldn't fit it in my mouth when I got a hold of it because I didn't want to hurt him.
>>25804400
>>25804431
For the most part, /co/ and /b/ felt the same way as I do back in the glory days, and those threads were far and away better than anything since.
>>25804417
>personally determined
As in first hand experience, or what you've learned secondhand?
>>25804417
Then, you agree that season 3-5 is does not have the same quality of seasons 1-2, even being considered... worse?
also
>>25792882
If this isn't evidence, then I don't know what to think.
>>25804503
I ought to screenshot a thorough explanation because people are interested every time. Thanks for stoking my attention whoring flame, Anon, truly.
First hand, yeah. Horses have amazing asses. She started it, though.
>>25804516
Why do you even care about that cancerous faggot's opinion. You won't accomplish anything, his mind works like an SJW's mind
>>25804516
Remember that analogy about a pigeon shitting all over a chess board and then strutting around like it's victorious? Learn from it.
>>25804532
So, you think that people should be blind to the flaws? That people shouldn't care for quality and consideration for continuity?
I'm confused what you strive for. It seems like you just want people to smile and eat shit.
>>25804558
My stance on clopping has nothing to do with this.
>>25804558
He strives for making a name for himself as an obnoxious autistic faggot. He's been massively successful at it
>>25804593
>He's been massively successful at it
My ego says yes, but my brain says no.
I haven't been successful at building a name for myself. I'm a known name on this board because of how people react. They spoonfeed me attention knowingly and then bitch when I have it.
Stop keeping your anger directed downward. Put it where it belongs. I have the smallest hand in the amount of flame I generate. Everyone else does all the work. Give credit where credit is due.
>>25803950
>>25804523
I'd heard is was like mildly sweet hay, but I can see how that might be similar to raw pumpkin. As for my opinion on how you know that, it's meh. The perversion of a pure and innocent idea is more distasteful in my mind than sticking your tallywhacker in an animal that goes sex-crazy every few months - so long as you're not hurting the animal.
>>25804624
Poor baby! The vile channers go so hard on him. You're such a victim!
>>25804634
pic related
>>25804643
Yeah, I like beastiality, not abuse. That horse made it a point to back her ass into me several times, even after the first taste test.
The sweet hay bit is actually... pretty spot on. Tasted like sweaty pumpkin flesh and hay.
I miss that mare, I really do.
>>25804651
You're really digging yourself a deeper septic tank.
>>25802787
>they turned the roots of the Golden Oak Library into a chandelier for Twilight
I don't remember this. When did that happen? It's rather beautiful.
>>25804668
Castle Sweet Castle, Season 5 Episode 3
Was more like an ornament holding thing, I guess? I mean, it was shaped like a chandelier and emitted light. Good enough for me.
Also, I don't think I'm ready to stop hating that mare yet. I need to sleep on it.
>>25804668
S5 episode 3 "home sweet castle"
>>25804658
>You're really digging yourself a deeper septic tank.
That's your expertise, so i won't question it
>>25804634
Nigger that's fucking Squirtle
I know a fucking goddamn Squirtle when I see one
It's fucking Squirtle, watch. You motherfuckers can't even rise to me level
>>25804634
I bet /vp/ would like that.
ITT: >MY OPINION IS BETTER THAN YOURS!
>>25804710
The fact that you put so little effort into a comeback has actually upset me significantly more than something witty and heartwrenching probably would have.
>>25804714
IT'SJOHN CENA
>>25804722
make it happen, marines
>>25804737
It did, however, make you put a lot of effort into an even shittier, almost copypasta-like comeback
Thanks to the people who weren't shitdicks. This has been fun.
>>25804686
>I don't think I'm ready to stop hating that mare yet. I need to sleep on it.
This. Starlight was a straight-up megacunt. Easily the biggest one in the series.
>Oh shit, I can't hang out with my buddy anymore because he found his special talent
>fucking cutie marks
>Oh look, I got my cutie mark for being adept in magic
>maybe I should use my skills to advance magic and possibly reunite with my childhood friend
>Nah, I'm going to build a communist dictatorship where I'm secretly "more equal" than everyone else so that I can be the only special one and no one can ever hurt me again
>fucking cutie marks
>Holy shit, six of the most magical ponies in the world including the Princess of Friendship came to my village
>I'll show them what-for
>What do you mean the ponies in my town are miserable
>What do you mean my philosophy is ass-backwards as fuck
>Why are you taking away my special place shiiiiiiiit
>fucking cutie marks
>I'm going to get those bitches back no matter the consequence
>I'll fuck with the timeline of six of the most important ponies to ever exist
>They took something special from me, so I'm just repaying the favor
>It would take an apocalyptic, world-shattering event to make me change my mind
>but there's no way that could happen just because of six ponies
>fucking cutie marks
>>25804832
Amen. To be honest, if I got the chance before Twilight changed her mind, I would've killed her.
But, despite the fact that hatred and violence can be immensely useful, they must be purposeful in the long term. And the only positive result of hating her now is the short-term emotional punching bag fix to be had in doing so.
It'll take time, but I'll learn to love her. She's just like a human. When she has no grip on herself, there's no limit to how stupid one can be. Maybe I'll get to the point where I can daydream about massaging her and offering counsel on how to make friends and feel comfortable in her own skin.
I admire the passion for putting that much effort into your explanation. No sarcasm.
>>25804876
To make things worse, it broke my willing suspension of disbelief when she effortlessly bested Twilight Sparkle, alicorn Princess of Friendship (aka MAGIC), in a battle of wits, strategy, and magical prowess. I can’t think of a single reason why she would be able to hold her own, let alone best, Twilight as a combatant and tactician. I guess Twilight just never put any effort into learning how to fight, and she got flustered after the repeated failures (plus the stress of seeing the results of those failures).
The show has been decreasing in quality ever since season 3. The fans have gotten more autistic, twilight has wings, and hasjew is shilling more then ever. I just wasted a of my life marathoning this.
>>25804926
Yeah. I mean, Twiggy Piggy devotes 99% of her magic to helping other ponies. Starlight spent most of her life with bitterness in her heart. Naturally she would know a thing or two about aggressive magic.
>>25804926
>effortlessly bested Twilight
I don't get why some people say this. The only time one of them had an edge over the other was the encounter where Twilight freezed Starlight. Other than that it was all dodging and shielding
>>25804730
and it's glorious.
>>25804961
Twilight's exact words were 'I can't stop you.'
>she couldn't stop the spell
>she didn't know magic well enough to stop it
>She's used this spell before and couldn't make it work half as well as glim glam
>glim glam has a magic looking cutie mark and her special talent is probably magic
Glim glam is better
>>25804976
The fact that she was stuck in combat, left out of breath, and could not out smart, magic, or beat her, is pretty significant. Glimmer wasn't even breaking a sweat.
>>25804998
Starlight was panting and sweating after that one long fight, just like Twilight, watch it again. They were evenly matched
>>25805012
You're giving that tardner attention... God, if you're gonna feed the trolls, remember to poison the food. internet 101
>>25804961
>>25804976
>>25805012
The sheer difference in power alone should have made it like a bull elephant fighting a wild dog in a small arena. Remember when Twilight and three other alicorns' combined power matched the power of every other pony in Equestria - including multiple magically-gifted unicorns like Starlight? Even if Celestia and Luna were responsible for 99% of that power, Twilight should still have an insurmountable power advantage over Starlight.
Furthermore, even if Twilight only had basic magical combat skills, the fact that she couldn't use her brain to strategize and outsmart Starlight while utilizing her power gap just made it that much harder to buy.
>>25803701
Exactly.
Just fuckin watch the show and enjoy it. You can enjoy a thing and still admit it has flaws, sometimes serious ones. My favorite pone has overall terrible episodes, but I really enjoy the episodes of one of the mane 6 I used to really hate, almost universally.
>>25804942
Your mom has been decreasing in quality since season 3. The only thing that's really worse about the show is that we don't really have any letters to the Princess or diary entries anymore. I miss those little summaries to neatly wrap up the episodes.
>>25805110
>>25805071
Twilight possesses immensely powerful magic, yes. She can turn ponies into other creatures, she can freeze a couple dozen ponies simultaneously. But most of her magic is not directed to battle. About outsmarting Starlight, what could she do against such a foolproof plan? And Twilight being smart doesn't make her a smart fighter. Stephen Hawkings wouldn't beat the average korean at DoTA
>>25805134
Starcraft*
>>25805079
>My favorite pone has overall terrible episodes
Hmmm....Applejack? Or maybe Fluttershy?
>>25805134
I just hope they actually acknowledge her immense talent of the magical arts.
>>25805122
>file name
>tumblr
Get out.
Nostalgia. It’s like a drug, keeps you from seeing things the way they are.
>>25805071
It seemed like Twilight's biggest problem was she had shit aim.
>>25805216
Or do drugs make you see the world how it really is and everyone else is oblivious.
>>25805182
Twilight already did. What I WANT to see is an explanation how Starlight got her upgrade. They gave hints in the form of the two cameos but that's not enough. Starlight herself has to explain the intense efforts and training she did to try and match Twilight.
>>25805134
>>25805143
>Stephen Hawkings wouldn't beat the average korean at Starcraft
He could beat the world champ no problem if all of his units and buildings were buffed to 100x the power of his opponent while starting with a comparatively infinite amount of resources. Twilight being as smart as she is actually does apply even in battle. Creativity, quick thinking, and an immense source of spells and power definitely come into play. Her lack of knowledge of combat could even give her and advantage because she might think of something new and unique that a conventionally-trained combatant might never consider. Keep all this in mind while considering that she also had infinite attempts of which we saw about half a dozen.
>>25805237
This. I want to see a montage of the years of her training at 50x gravity in the hyperbolic time chamber with the best magic-combat instructor in the world while eating and drinking nothing but magic-steroids.
>>25805237
We won't know until S6, but she most likely hit her power ceiling
>>25805255
Twilight gets nervous when fighting, which renders her intelligence useless. I bet she even gets tunnel vision too. No quick-thinking, no creativity and fancy spells, she's just careless, almost thoughtless when she fights. Everything you mentioned takes lots of training, it's far from just being a tactical genius
>>25805334
>Twilight gets nervous when fighting, which renders her intelligence useless
That's just headcanon that makes more assumptions than what I've stated while also contradicting the fact that she's seen her fair share of combat and kept her cool each time. And once again, she had all the time in the world to develop strategies and contingencies. If the show or Word of God says "Yeah, Twilight just being a dumbshit that whole time" then I'll buy it. Until then, >>25805283 is a better headcanon.
>>25802787
Be more subtle next time.
>>25805465
The only fight that demanded her to put any thought into was the very first one against NMM, which she simply teleported towards the elements, but other than that they were all mindless fights. Changelings: just shot lasers around. Tirek: just kept hitting him head on while consumed by rage. Starlight on premiere: unexpectedly blasted on the face while charging a spell, like an amateur. Bear/bee creature: who knows, but she wasn't alone. I don't think she's had enough practice where her intelligence could be properly utilized in combat. I know it borders headcanon territory but it makes some sense
>>25805650
It's still headcanon that only vaguely addresses one problem out of many for why Twilight didn't stomp her once she set her mind to it.There is some sense in it, but it would need to be stated in canon before it becomes the best answer.
And this thread proves why we shouldn't discuss the show during hiatus.
Because it turns into pure unadulterated autism.
All these faggots hating on the show can't stand it when people genuinely like the show.
If you faggots dislike the show then why are you here? Oh yeah, cause you're faggot fans of the fandom trying to be relevant on the internet.
>>25805704
I guess Twilight could have turned her into a fine red mist instead of trapping her the one time she hit.
>>25803579
You must really be a bitch nigga then. I get misty eyed with the show from time to time, but the emotions felt too manufactured in that episode. Didn't help their marks were such eyesores and copypasta laziness.
>>25805759
You sure showed them huh?
>>25803720
Is there something wrong with that? With knowing the faults about what you're trying to enjoy? I'd prefer to be more often angry than anything as long as I knew the truth than just be blissfully ignorant the whole time. Besides, if you're always angry of sad or whatever, the moments of happiness you do feel are even better, rather than if you had them all the time because you just enjoy everything.
>>25802828
>>25802887
So yeah, like OP said, whining like a little bitch.
