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>>25631472
Yay I can finally sleep without worrying about new threads!

>>25631472
I have an idea for a small war or battles that happen Pre Pip. don't wanna spoil though cus raisins.

>>25631472
I kinda feel like it might be time to take down those recently updated stories from OP that were updated in October. For next thread.

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>>25632765
Agreed, but let's see what's worth mentioning:

Wasteland Bouquet - Nov 11
Dance of the Orthrus - Nov 13
The Chrysalis - Nov 27
Rising Dawn - Nov 27
Make Love Not War - Nov 27
Black and White - Nov 29

Up to you all if these stories are significant enough to count for the roster

>>25632963
>Atom Smasher is back

Thank you anon, didnt know about this

>>25632963
Why not.
I think I'll chuck 'em all in if I make the next thread.

Serious question, not trying to start anything: Are hybrids generally not liked? I've seen a lot of hate towards that dragonpony filly in Sombers new trainwreck and I was just curious. Is the hate for her since we know she's gonna be shot because PH2, or are hybrids in general disliked in the fandom?

>>25631472
You missed Tales of a Junktown Pony Peddler in the updates.

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>>25634029
Check out these giraffe-pony hybrids.
Or Sierra Scorch the Triceratops/bunnycorn

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Why don't we kick off this thread with niceposting and ignore and report anything else. I'll start.

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>>25630763
I liked it in a good sense of how well it was written, the focus on small units and an IFV. I expected it to actually be dealing with Zebras as a primary component or at least as a serious threat relative to everything else in the story, and am saddened by the lack of such things.

I would have been nice to have some military people posit about FOE largescale mechanized battles and what their characters would do in them, as opposed to these constant Chicago turf wars going on.


In so far as fetishes, I maintain a professional separation of them from works not needing them. This is easily noted by how little they crop up outside of my clopfics sans requests, such as team twincest. I do have an interest in light bondage and latex, plus a few other things, but no, fluid immersion is not one of them. I am far more interested in the materials practical applications in allowing access to high pressure environs, protection from overpressure, and that with a proper blending of fluid and corpule materials, can greatly boost "blood" oxygen carrying capacity while allowing a more effective scrubbing of same from viral and microbiological agents. Small downside of this is the lack then of platelets, white blood cells, and fibrin amongst other components if you try and maintain the system solely. Essentially if you replaced your blood this way, you'd need tubes of this really neat paste made from veggies that is totes not medigel and a super dialysis machine.

But no, good pod does nothing for me in a fetish sexual manner.

>>25634277
Y'know, I really appreciate how hoers draws eyes.

Anyway, I'd like to bring up a topic: there are some notes common to a lot of Wasteland stories, but I'm sure some of those hold a special place for us. What common story trope do you most enjoy seeing in FoE stories?

For me, it's actually just that first moment that a newcomer to the Wasteland reacts to the idea of eating meat. I dunno exactly what it is, but when the scene is done well, it's just a lovely moment of levity.

>>25634029
Hybrids are frequently a special snowflake call for attention. Think of how old serials would bring out the exotic and mysterious Asian in order to make an attraction to the public. Whether it be from martial arts to cultural trappings, it was to be exotic, and looking at them, many are fucking shit from it. Or for real horror, look at Asian serials trying to invoke American ways for real cringe.

To have a hybrid, a good thing is too look at why. Sisters had zonies and did well. Karate Kid had a mysterious Asian and was stupid with it. Jackie Chan was quite good on the other hand, even in the animated series. Sisters did it as establishing the characters, it did not do it for neon attention signage, but as something different. KK wanted it to make it a mysteriously better fighting means by the magic of the orient, and is quite bad for that. JCA invoked it as part of mythology, admitted its absurdity and worked in it. Big Hero 6 combined Asimerica quite well.

So basically, analysis says that if the point of your hybrid is you just want to write about a character who is a hybrid and actions follow from there, its fine.

If you write a hybrid and keep warping things to enunciate they're a hybrid, and thus super magic special, then you have a problem.

Hybrids don't need to have downsides or upsides, here a mule and a liger type would be just fine and medical and sterility issues would not crop up, unless you want them to.

The dracopony issue is its Somber, PH2, and a damn big amount of why???!!! going on. She could redeem herself and work quite well if its more about her nonovershadowing actions and not just because of who she is born as.

You know, the whole thing MLK wanted of being judged by merit and act, not by the color of skin.

>>25634072
I am really sorry. First time making one, fucked it up the first time anyways. I couldn't recall desu, was making right before going to bed.

>>25634350
All good. Appreciate you making it.

>>25634029
It's because they're cheap special snowflakes and their story is always the same.
>can't fit in
>teased
>racism
>proves their worth
But most of all they're the opposite of an average joe, the opposite of relatable. Literally the only "plus" about this hybrid is that it has the potential to breath fire, something that is "awesome" and would've been enough to validate its existence if you're 10 years old.

Hybrids are like alicorn OC's to the next level, a combination of best worlds cause the creator couldn't handle choosing. Though in Somber's case I have a feeling he made the hybrid because he wanted to tell the story of one. It's easy to understand and predict and works perfectly as a playground to cause deep edge and "feelings". With the kind of follower base he has, I have a feeling they'll also catch on to actually relate to the thing solely because it feels like it doesn't fit in (and they like to pretend they're special with a hidden fire inside them).

If the only ones Somber care about is his patreon, then this seems like a good choice. A special snowflake character for a special snowflake fedora tipping audience. But he can forget about bringing that shit here.

>>25634286
I, ah, was referring to the breathable liquid thing.

>>25634097
I agree with>>25634332, but sort of think I've got a bit to add.

Simplicity of concept and complexity of use. You need to justify whatever concepts you bring into your story, to reduce general clutter. The longer you have to spend rationalizing why something exists in the story in the first place is that much longer before you can even begin to justify its existence by making those events relavent to the story. Often, it's incredibly hard to bring that justification back around to being relavent. Sisters does it particularly well in that their hybrid nature contributes directly to the core themes of the story (I haven't read it, but I feel that that much is pretty clear).

Usually, taking a relatively simple concept and using it in new and unique ways does pretty well. It's easy to wrap your head around it, at the very least. With a complex concept for a character, the use of the character needs to be nuanced as well. You throw something like a half-dragon at me, I'm going to be wondering why this is needed for the story more than looking at what she's actually doing. You fail to answer that question, it leaves a permanent mark on that character, and story.

>>25634416
And I spoke about that as well. Just posted more than that since people asked.

Breathable fluid = not a fetish = damn good tool.

>>25634332
>>25634400
>>25634416
Thanks for the responses. I was planning to have a hybrid character in my story (zebragriff) just because I needed a character able to hold a sword and a normal griffin seems like they'd be too barbarian-ish and a normal zebra could only use their mouths, which would leave them at a serious disadvantage. Was trying to do a whole gun vs sword thing without getting too deep into bullet splitting/deflecting ebin anime territory. I guess I'll have to rethink this...

>>25634507
Nah hippogriffs, of which a zebragriff is a subset, are fine.

Could have a bit of an issue ala the bird pegasi thread, hippogriffs aren't unknown, Talons get bored or vindicative, and the children are looked down upon by many. Essentially, prepip as the living reminders of Equestria's slow take over, post as is rapid take over.

"Rape" babies in post war environs of the past were very deliberately made to show the natives they had lost.

Could have your character be the product of a wholesome loving family, one that forbids enlisting in the Talons, but has a desire for adventure in the blood all the same. Part of the issue being that there are people and spots he'll need to tread lightly, and others he flat can't go or get lynched.

Basically, how did his parents conceive him, work up from there.
The character on its own for just being a sword wielder isn't bad, but it needs something more than just "No thumbs freak me out"

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I just found out.

Why won't he leave, /mlp/?

Why won't he leeeaaave...

>>25634644
Why so much magma?

>>25634332
>Karate Kid had a mysterious Asian and was stupid with it.
To be fair, Karate Kid was made in the 80s, where racist stereotypes were a thing in action movies.

>Big Hero 6 combined Asimerica quite well.
Too bad they couldn't combine Honey Lemon and Hispanic. Instead we got a white girl from Connecticut.

>>25634716
He didn't get the varia suit so he's stuck in Norfair until he beats Ridley

>>25634716
I dunno.

I hate myself for thinking this, but it actually looks like it could be a cool setting. Lava fields and volcanic stuff all that.

>>25634723
>implying that a person of ethnicity has to look like the stereotype

Check your privledge, scumlord.

But seriously. The biggest problem comes from the fact that when people make a special snowflake character like a hybrid, that becomes their only trait. Not their defining trait, their ONLY trait. And that's when it's a problem. Special, interesting, and unique characters are fine, so long as they don't become shitty-ass boring one dimensional cutouts of a cliche just there for the shock value.

>>25634744

Don't justify the fic with views. The best thing about it is it's relatively low stats on fimfiction.

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>>25634507
>>25634751
Hey, original rage anon. Yeah Hybrids usually get a bad rep and I don't intend Somber to rise against that shit. There's two other real problems with this character I had last thread.

Like I pointed out, the character was literally shoved in randomly in the final draft with no consideration whatsoever for why the hell she needed to be in the story. And Somber's lackey's or himself were unable to really even come up with a bullshit reason why. Probably because one of his dwindling Patreon supporters said they wanted it and they didn't want to admit it.

Another thing is that she is the has no other personality other than 'I'm a freak and I want to find a place to call home' which is literally what Pythia, another existing main character, is but with more bitchiness. Her exoticness is her only notable personality trait and she offers nothing new to the group's dynamic or character. All she's done is tack on another whopping 7k words to the first chapter because somber had to write about how she stood around drooling so much.

Also she apparently 'loves a good fight' which is probably the worst thing I was told about her. That means Somber probably only put her in because like Rampage she needs to help kill some of the overpowered and anime shit he's going to send to torture the main characters. I was hoping the fact they are all little children who aren't known to be very great at fighting would dissuade Somber from shoving in Anime fights.

Overall she's pretty much is what others said to avoid with Hybrids. But even worse is that like Lacunae she literally has no reason to exist or even stay with the party. And her spontaneous inclusion bloated the first chapter tremendously while offering absolutely nothing to the story.

>>25634535
My plan for him or her is a normal conception and upbringing, with some martial arts and sword training. The reason for a need for hands is that I have a need for mobility against my protagonist (a very mobile unicorn), especially with their CQC fighting style. I suppose a zebra could work if I went with the sticky/magnetic hooves theory...

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>>25635286
May I ask why you're even considering having a character with martial arts and sword training in a Fallout Equestria story?

>>25634535
>hippogriffs
>they're fine
Don't pretend these are any better. The same arguments against hybrids apply here. They're special snowflakes and/or cheap best of both worlds solutions.

>rape babies
>to show the natives they had lost
I don't care if similar things have happened on Earth, but this is just pure edge. And why would anyone deliberately lynch a zebragriff unless they were raiders looking to do that to anyone anyway? Xenith only had to be cautious at Tenponny and even there I doubt they'd do anything. She just didn't want to be treated differently from a social aspect while shopping. How would being a hybrid with a griffon change things so dramatically?

It all just sounds dumb. Ponies at this age couldn't be bothered when they've got real issues to take care of.

>>25635452
Fine here means you can use them without a 3 pound book of explanations. Its much like having griffons period as protags and recurring members. Its about horses. Same for Enclavers as anything but enemies, or Dashites. At some point we either stick to the three ponies and call it good, or admit there can be much more and you shall show me why you are worthy.


That was just an example of what must be fought against, ie don't go and use this route, do something better. Lynchings comes from the aforementioned common issue, coupled with how outside of Gawd's, Talons are pretty much barbarian mercs from the original, with Stern being the lordess of it all. So in a canonizing peice, you have to fight that.

In a , this is in FOE, but not in the story, its much more open to variance, differences and conclusions. The whole, the main fic skipped over everything not a destination or near it and did not swell in any large culture moments of learning of towns, cities, and what makes the surface ponies tick.

Its much in how Tofu is doing well to show a kinder side to the Enclave, in fact more a side period.

Stonershy showing a griff that is not just the whole greedy mercarian knockoff.

Somber showing that anime FOE hybrids can be greatly paid for and received.

Stealth that there are honor wielding Talons

etc...

Basically in regards to how to develop the story, ideas can be pitched, but hybridanon must come up with justification, and a good one that does not just dwell on mysterious exotic hybrid for the sake of fingers.

>>25635647
Most swords have a form of unarmed martial art that would be taught as a part of training to use it, which means throwing in a zebra just for unarmed martial arts redundant.

In fact this gives me an idea.

>>25635452
I just wanna mention first that I love that file name.
>>25636021
And next I wanted to comment about swords in the FoE context. Definitely a weird choice to make that could rub people's sensibilities the wrong way but I too have entertained the idea of a sword wielding pony.
It was never a "martial arts" deal, as in to say that it would be specifically mentioned and pointed out that it was some kind of sword related fighting style, but at the same time the character in question NEEDED to have some kind of training/skill in swordplay in order to justify it's use and effectiveness.
Furthermore, what use is a sword in a world of magic and guns? I wasn't comfortable with the idea of making the sword more unique by say, electrifying it like can be seen in FO3 and 4 (both are unique weapons that deal additional energy damage (but wouldn't it be cool if you could temporarily electrify it with a spell?) and I also worried about that one trope thingy where if something gets specifically mentioned you MUST use it somewhere in the near future or else it's a pointless prop. I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head but it's a thing

Cont.

>>25636899
>>25635452
I just wanna mention first that I love that file name.
>>25636021
So I ended up writing some notes about how it could fairly be used. It would be plain retarded to see this character charging around in any given fight with a sword like it's no problem, so this left me with my favorite excuse ever: Situational Usage.
A raider (or just some random baddie) with a melee weapon of some kind gets up close and personal? Fair use, might be easier to block/parry/counter with your own melee weapon than to attempt a dodge or backpedal. I mean hell, if this character has a pistol readily availible and can manage more than one weapon at a time I don't see the problem with dirty fighting. Block an attack then shoot em in the gut, "It's you or me."

Another situation would be the aforementioned stealth attack. I'm pretty sure this doesn't need explaining or much in the form of examples, pretty easy to imagine how to stealthily dispatch an opponent with a melee weapon.

The last situations would be close quarters or ammo saving reasons. The close quarters reasoning I felt was weak desu so I would like to spend more time thinking about it before justifying it. You're not going to ONLY carry a sword around so it could be faster just to have a gun at the ready, however, do you really want to waste ammo on soft targets that aren't armed? Such as ghouls perhaps. If you aren't in danger of being overrun, could it be fair to use a sword instead? I don't think those limbs would stand up to a trusty blade in the right hands.

>>25636918
Woops, fucked that first bit up

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>>25636918
Bayonets man, bayonets.
Good enough to fuck over Argies taking the Queen's clay, good enough to rend open a raiders belly.

Swords are for ornamentation and Scotsmen. I think you are also misunderstanding just how powerful guns are in this regards, plus maneuvering.

People like CQC for that manly fisticuffs feeling, not so much because its better. Sure a flensing sword is going to work really well for killing, bleeding out and sending them into shock, but just shooting them a bit will see them drop in shock and be useless, much less the fact of repeated fire.

>>25636918
>do you really want to waste ammo on soft targets that aren't armed?
I'd say that was a fair point. I've certainly played the games that way often enough.

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Troubled youth bump.

Using this linked webm because I have zero clue how to compress it Teach me Neuro! how would you work the behavior into a griffon?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9zeemL18McCX2tDT0premhMbzg/view?usp=sharing

>>25639058
>how do you work it in
Simple. It's a normal thing that's normal to griffons. They only get mad or embarrassed about it when some pony giggles at them doing it.

>>25639338
Pipdogs aren't allowed to have candy.

I cast newspaper bap.

>>25639338
>not taking pip to work

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>>25639657
Not posting best griffon.
I mean just look how happy and well adjusted the three look. They'd be just fine on the streets today.

Does anyone have that picture of Rarity in NCR Riot Armour?

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Serious question.
If there is little wood in the wasteland, how the hell does everyone have campfire?

>>25640119
There isn't a scarcity of wood in the wasteland, that's why they have campfires.

>>25640119
you can also burn books, houses and furniture you know. I'm sure a little bit of coal exists in certain places too but judging by the context of how the war happened it would be quite rare.

But there wasn't necessarily a lack of trees in the wasteland such as a lack of Life. Dead trees everywhere.

>>25640119
It would take a long time for what's left of the population to burn what's available.

I'm starting to worry about Neuro.
I think we may need to stage an intervention.

>>25640431
Neuro, there are other ponies out there. You don't need to fixate on Pip.

>>25640479
He can stop modding any time he wants to.

>>25640511
The first step is admitting you have a problem.

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>>25640431
Do it again, that clearly was not ceiling levels of filled.
By the frilly flaming pantaloons of Celestia, must you be taught everything you Starswirl loving Scotsman?

>>25637013
>webm
That seems like such a bad idea. I fully expected to see her lose a hand.

>>25640626
But anon those kitties are so soft and gentle and docile.

>>25640502
Why mod anything else than best pony?

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>>25640664
I know right, thats why I modded in the very best pony, pic related.
>>25640502
Im just now learning how to work editing .dds files so soon Ill edit this to be different pones.
>>25640586
Gotta make sure the pips have some breathing space man

>>25639795
What a bunch of nerds

>>25640798
>.dds
Devs still use those? Jesus, I remember editing .dds files for Dawn of War like four years ago.

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>>25640431
And this is to go even further beyond!
>>25640848
Yeah seems to be the only file you can use to edit textures. Trouble is I have to convert them to psd in gimp to edit in sai and then convert back again

>>25641057
I can't handle this.

>>25641057
Speaking of roachpone, I can't seem to find any image of general scuttles on Derpibooru. Guys? Help contribute?

>>25641057
>Using Dogmeat

And here I thought you were a sane person

>>25634277
He has a blue dress lying around in a suitcase under his bed. I bet he uses it to feel pretty when nobody is seeing

>>25634277
Fun fact, he is not immune, and enemies wander.

>>25641465
It was a red dress for me.

>>25641491
>he is not immune
What?

>>25641925
I think he means he's not an essential npc

>>25641950
What happens if you kill Travis?

>>25642047
The bald kid who sells water takes over if he dies.

>>25642070
and you can't kill bald kids. You're a genius todd

>>25642070
What? I thought it was just dead air.

>>25642047
You began to slowly loss your sanity and end up killing yourself because you couldnt handle killing the best character on the game

>>25642857
>tfw you can't play as Travis

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I can't sleep, so it's decision making time!

We left off with Quick Cap and Wind Wave creeping up on a pair of Applejack's Rangers that just finished a fight with a group of raiders.

Would you like to...
A) Permenantly switch the PoV back to Forage, in the refugee camp. (What happens with Quick Cap, Wind Wave, their message, and how they handle the griffons will be decided by me.)
B) Continue with Quick's PoV and find those griffons.
C) Start a short prequel sequence from Forage's PoV, then return to the present moment. (You'll control Forage as a young colt for a short amount of time, and get to see a bit of his past.)

>>25642883
these choices are impossible.

>>25642961
Shit.
Explain please?

>>25642883
I don't wanna abandon Quick, so B or C.

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Reference or coincidence?

>>25643750
I'd say it's Quincy-dental

>>25643750
Oh yes, Dead eye

Its a great easter egg for the great character, I like how they gave him his signature weapon (A sledgehammer of course ) and a little wink at how he slayed that Deathclaw on the fic


Or the fact he was blind also

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>>25644551
Meanwhile if you check the bottom of the bobby pin box...

>>25644576
You gotta be kidding. I want this.

>>25643750
Definitely coincidence.

Here is a question.
One of the pegasi nymph has fucked up with his fetish writing has managed to escape. What sort of therapy and mental health institutions could she find to help her return to normal?

>>25645151
I recommend puppies and professional therapy animals to help her learn to trust others again?

>>25645151
Perhaps something involving murder so nymph can't hurt any more bird horses? After all killing the source of your problems feels good.

Why do you guys think that that there are so few MCs without spouses/significant others?

>>25645472
Can't go adventuring if you're tied down.

>>25645477
Why not? There's plenty or real life soldiers that are married that don't have a problem going off to do life threatening things for a living.

>>25645472
Seems to me that authors prefer to show relationships grow rapidly than to simply have one in existence with acknowledged depth. Both have advantages and pitfalls.

>>25645489
They also have pensions and insurance. If a wasteland adventurer snuffs it, their SO will be lucky to even find out.

>>25645472
It's easy to establish "X is my sibling/relative" without phoning it in too hard why we should be invested in them the first chapter. Spouses and lovers are hard given you need to explain how you met and bonding in the interum without breaking pacing.

>>25645630
>Spouses and lovers are hard given you need to explain how you met and bonding in the interum without breaking pacing.
See, I disagree. And I feel like that's a trap a lot of writers fall into. The exposition dump on why these characters are. It's ultimately unnecessary if you're a good enough writer.

>>25645670
>It's ultimately unnecessary if you're a good enough writer.

And you are, I take it?

>>25645151
She'd need some intense magic to at fix any long term injury and discomfort. That or professional treatment over time.
As for the mental side, I think a few ponies who care would be about as good as you get in the wasteland.

>>25645690
I like to think I am, but there's always room to improve your own writing.
I just think a lot of writers get too "on the nose" when it comes to their characters and their emotions/relationships with other characters and don't leave any sort of subtlety or nuance to their characters. In a way, they're too intrusive into their characters private lives/emotions if that makes sense.

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So, UEF in FOE for the Ministry of Awesome's uniform?

>>25645780
>missing piece if ear
Eugh.
Why are artists so dumb?

>>25645784
What's the problem? They have big ears. Spends to reason they might get torn up in battle.

>>25645793
>spends
*stands

Important question, what plausible reason do sidefic radio hosts have to quickly receive up to date wherabouts of your heroes without the resources of Homage's surveillance network.

Been thinking of making the radio host in my theoretical sidefic turn out to be five different ponies (and one Hellhound) who agreed to pretend be the same DJ.

>>25645793
>>25645801
It's just an uninspired design. Hell, it's an option on the generic pony creator.

>>25645818
>uninspired
And what would be inspired?
Bare in mind there's limited detail they can add.

>>25645810
Duck and Cover's Homage knock-off had a pegasus assistant to do the legwork, literally called Grapevine. "How did you hear about this?" "Well, I heard it through the Grapevine..."

Better question: why is there consistently only one radio station per region? Why not have several competing, or none at all?

>>25645834
Uninspired was the wrong word. I think they're tacky. It's something I roll my eyes at whenever I see someone slap them on a pony. It's like giving a pony bat wings or vertical eye slots. Just some superficial thing to make their character stand out from the masses of every other character that also has a mangled ear.

>>25645810
You could have towns using there own radios to just send news and updates about their area to the host. Maybe because the host is the only one with a setup that can reach across the whole region. Alternatively the host could be shacked up in the headquarters of some group that's active around the region. Maybe a NCR ranger type group, or the Talons. As members come back from jobs they bring news with them.

>>25645778
Which fic do you write?

>>25643750
I killed this dude a while back but I didn't make anything of it, what's the coincidence?

>>25645900
Nothing currently I've been busy with classes, but I read/write other non-pony stories written by other students a good deal so I can say it's a pretty consistent trend with younger, inexperienced writers.

>>25645841
>Why not have several competing, or none at all?
I like this idea. Put 2 or more stations competing between them to be the best one, maybe use the protagonist to try to gain more relevance and things like that

>>25645841
I can only assume because there most likely isn't enough radio equipment to just be continuously broadcasting all over equestrian with multiple overlap points.
Also, radio hosts are usually portrayed as moralfags and author mouthpieces so they don't think they need more than one.

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>>25645810
I have Muckraker walking around the entire Zona, where he picks up on rumors and news from other ponies or towns.

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>>25646165

>>25646210
He'll do anything to be the first to provide insulting news on-air.

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>>25646217
"Hey man, give me that breaking-news worthy scoop, man!"

>>25646210
Those two really need to kiss in a surprisingly lewd and unexpected method.

Also, gib new chapter. Gib gib gib.

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So whyare stallion centric fics so rare?

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>>25646302
Cuz mares be pwettier

>>25646302
They're not, really. There are plenty of them on fimfic, but most of them are terrible, with edgy, self insert characters that you can't relate to.

Also this >>25646321

MLP is a girly show with an all female main cast. Of course you're going to see a lot more female main characters in fanfiction.

>>25646302
>"Ew, a male protagonist. Must be a self-insert mary sue."
>*close tab*

>>25646302
One of the IPs is a mare-centric show for girls; we're used to female protags.

I'd give that middle one a good home though.

>>25646407
you would, you obviousfag

>>25646165
I really love Muckraker, he's probably my favorite character so far and the whole "Mobile Radio Station" idea was, dare I say it, a stroke of genius.

Much more unique, fun and more interesting than the typical lone radio station per territory.

you should draw him summoar Datte

>>25646321
I highly disagree... I just don't have any pretty wateland horse to post for the counterexample.

How about that old stallion with a cigar, donning a dress?

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>>25646448
Y-You too

I will

>>25646275
It's coming. I am not a fast writer, especially if I want things to like...mean something. :L

Hopefully the wait will be worth it

>>25646302
Dunno but if I ever get around to writing mine, there will be a stallion protagonist and a possibly alarming lack of mares I will need to fix.

>>25646475
Just don't make him a fagboy pls, I need a LeakyxMuckraker ship for reasons.

>>25646571
ur ship a shit

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>>25646571
Nah, he won't be an gay, forcing sexualities into characters who don't have the spotlight for the sple reason of "ayy he's gayy" is one of my main annoyances

>>25646610
Fuk u nig I'll wrek u
>>25646615
Everyday I like you more Datte~

>>25646615
>>25646654
Now kiss.

>>25645904
There's a guy called Dead Eye that hires Pip to assassinate Gawd. In return, Littlepip is hired by Gawd to assassinate Dead Eye instead. I can't remember exactly why, but it happened at some point after they met Pinkie Belle I believe. Or welp, when they first met Gawd to be exact.

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So thought you guys would like to know this about a certain fic, Empty Quiver, and FO4.

Spoils, for no yelling.
At the Nahant Oceanological Society you will find out Mirelurks are actually prewar things from all the pollution.

In Empty Quiver, the same thing is there. Empty Quiver also had a love for a number of the vintage weapons that ended up in FO4.

Now I'm not saying the Rafalian is actually part of Bethesda, but its eminently possible there is a link with the two or convergence.

>>25645810
Mine has, or will have, a network of spritebots. Justified in universe by him having an alliance with the local technophile faction a la Fallout 3's Three Dog.

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>>25646321
Bychance would somebody be able to edit this to give her a proper dolphin snout?

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>>25646808
Diapers and inflation

>>25646803
Ohhh yeah I forgot about him. Such a minor character though.

>>25646405
Exactly how I feel. Even if the character isn't, I'll still be sitting on edge expecting a self-insert moment to happen and it ruins it. I just can't relax and stop scanning for faults. The only fic where this doesn't happen to me is MN7. Murky is just someone you really don't want to be.

>>25646868
Why does she have freckles?

Supermutants are dipped with their clothes on typically, they soil themselves until the pressure bursts the mixed flesh and garment.
Marcus tells it to you in Broken Hills.

>>25646884
Did you ever try Outlaw, anon? Mach and Tofu are night and day.

>>25646808
Huh, I cleared the NOS but I don't remember any terminals saying that.

>>25646996
I don't think that's from NOS.

>>25646927
Yes, I didn't get very far sadly. But that's not Outlaw's fault, that's just me being too tired to read. It's like the brightness of the screens are hurting my eyes or something. I just can't read anything somewhat lengthy consistently anymore.

>>25647019
And that, little ones, is why I split my chapters up.

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>>25647019
:c

>>25647039
Anon pls I did the same thing. The majority of my chapters are sub-10k. The same cannot be said of most stories.

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>>25647055

>>25634920

While not exactly correct, you made some excellent points. There are other reasons for her to be in the story. She doesn't exactly want a home. What she wants is to know what is she supposed to be? Is she a pony, because most ponies didn't give her the time of day. Is she a dragon, because she knows even less about them than she does ponies? Even Watcher admits he wasn't the best dragon, and mouse just squeaks.

Worse are her instincts, which she doesn't know if she should encourage or suppress. Should she hoard or share? Should she devour her foes or shoot them? The only real 'parenting' she has was from Sanguine, who wanted nothing from her other than to stay out of his way and eat Blackjack.

So you have some decent things to keep in mind and I'll try and take it to heart.

>>25634744
That's what's left of the Achu. Should be around chapter 8-9.

>>25634644
Mostly because most of my readers asked me to stay and do one more big FoE story. Swicked jokes its so far from FoE that it should be called Fo:(N)E.

>>25634332
Awesome points. I wanted precious because I was thinking of fillies living in chapel and she popped up. I had wanted to do more with her in PH, but never got the chance, so rather than forget about her, I wanted this chance to use her.

Also, great point about MLK.

>>25645472
I really don't know. Try writing one yourself. A spousal MC team might have a lot of potential!

>>25646165
That's brilliant.

>>25647133
Danke Somber.

Really, I'll give you the time of day this time around.
Don't bother with critique on PH, I'm probably never going to get around to reading these tome level fics.


PS

Have written and sometimes show groups that are doing related things to your cast.
The teams 1-10 and we're following team 1, so what are the other 9 doing.
Use them to establish and do things offscreen so you don't weigh down the narrative with "Only we, the written protagonists, can find your skillet mam."
Instead have other groups doing things, useful to the story things, to say that there is more out there.

Would do well to kill off some of the issues where everything seemed to revolve around a palms worth of characters. You could also have an easier time sending characters you want out of the picture and picking up new ones this way.

For an example, Bastard is normally on team 9, he gets to trade with Glory as they provide overwatch for the shuttle launch. Now Glory is gone a bit without being nuked, and we have eve established a certain amount of who bastard is and his skills with very little screen time.

>>25647133
use your trip

>>25647208

I talk here at all, most don't like it. I use a trip and people REALLY don't like it. I won't stay long though.

>>25647197

Don't worry about it. Horizons is in the past, and while I hope it still gets read, I don't want it to be my only story. I want Homelands to be good now.

That's an interesting idea. That was something that made Horizons so hard, especially towards the end, that I had to shove the perceptatron plot device just to show other things happening while keeping things FPO. It might make for useful practice.

Two huge things I want to avoid are "Oh, look at these incredibly high stakes story lines that I HAVE to address, even if they take 200K words" and changing the frigging story. It was the cardinal sin I committed in Horizons, and I don't want to repeat it.

Thanks!

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I would like your opinion on this oc design.

>>25647619
Is that a colander?

That's adorable.

>>25647619
Needs more dirt.

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>>25647619

Murderkill Deathgore was born into a ’family’ of raiders. One day, while her family was out pillaging and raping, she was supposed to stay at home in her family’s camp, but then she saw a butterfly and followed it. But then she lost sight of the butterfly, now she is lost and wandering the wasteland having all kinds of fun adventures. Though she would really like to find her home. It can’t be too hard to find, right?

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>>25647619
Was she born in a pool of taint?

>>25647732
Nope, the idea was for colors that would have the most opposite benefit to sneaking.

>>25647732
Hmmm... maybe I should add radiation child to her pnp traits.

So who writes good rapefics?
Not, lol ur ass is mine purty boy or cracked jaw violent ones, but ones where its more an unwillingness to have the sex and getting forced into it.

Reminder that David Bushey aka Somber plagiarized several Anime series and movies while writing his giant pile of self flagellating shit.

>>25647906
Unfortunately I don't watch enough of the annie mays to recognize it when he did this. Any specific moments?

A question for somber, if he's still here.

How did you manage to write so much? I can never be arsed to go on for long. Was this like "I'll do a page per day!" kin0d of dedication or what?

>>25647928
Ghost in the Shell (Tank fight), Full Metal Alchemist (characters and when Blowjob kills the Angel), Naruto Shippuden (Bat King after his mute son dies), Star Wars: A New Hope (Solo on the Comms in the Death Star scene).

Just to name a few.

>>25648011
That last one was more of a reference, I think. But yes, the rest were blatant rips.

>>25648026
Yeah, a lot of people like to do the Star Wars thing because, let's be honest, Starwars is WIDELY known and very popular to an extend.

I just like to throw that in to remind David he's not nearly as original as he thinks because he's not the only faggot out there who's referenced that scene.

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>>25647619
>>25647684
>>25647732
Take note of the coloring section.

>>25647906
Plagarize is direct copying, not copying the intent or picture.

A copy paste is a plagarize. Refitting it for ponies and an existing bit is not.

Much as it pains people, Nymph's traces were not plagarizing, since he added on more and changed them afterwards. They were traces, hence the name.

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You subject an assortment of ponies; wastelanders, raiders, Enclave scouts and Steel Rangers through a variety of chem trials you're hoping to introduce new products to the wasteland. Until you rename your concoctions to be more marketable to Equestrians, for now you'll be calling your experimental batches Calmex, Day Trippe,r Daddy-O, Fury, and X-Cell.

Your 'volunteers' are not permitted to leave (or live) unless they partake in one of the drugs and describe their sensations in the immediate moment and any deleterious observations in the hours after repeatedly if need be. You don't expect complaints from the raider subjects, but due to their tendency of being resistant, you need to record the susceptibility of your drugs on all ponies, green or hardened.

In essence, what do you expect the ponies to experience taking these new chems, and the withdrawal symptoms to follow?

>>25648141
Sorry, but I thought long and hard about her color scheme. The bright clashing colors are intentional.

>>25648191
Part of her character is that she thinks she is good at stealth, but her coat make stealth nearly impossible.

>>25648146
>Plagarize is direct copying.
>A copy paste is a plagarize.
Which is exactly what he did. Thanks for clarifying my point.

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>>25647619
>>25647684
>>25647732

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>>25648299
>8 strength

>>25648150
X-cell would be basically a super booster of everything. Super soldier serum in an inhaler for a short period. Little physical dependence, extensive psychological dependence. Subject reports feeling like a power pony, and was capable of significant feats. Would recommend for guards only if supply is steady.

Fury was noted as making the subject have great difficulty focusing, their thoughts frequently becoming a jumbled mess with no effective paths. Subject becomes increasingly agitated at being unable to focus, resulting in becoming aggressive and combative. Attempts at restraint were met with great resistance. Subject incapacitated following clavicle fracture on Berry Spear and severed vertebrae in Mist gardens. Addendum, subject did not posses extraordinary strength when Fury wore off, suspect agitation causes overstimulation of adrenal glands and fight or flight.
Recommend reclassification as combat drug and away from recreational use.

Daddy-O subject was a demure unicorn, suspected results of drug were enhanced cognition and charm based on metabolic chemicals being derived from Mintals. Testing found unicorn was able to absorb and understand advanced spell craft above her predrug capability. Tester reports she noticed subject was unusually snooty and abrasive, believes enhanced cognition results in superiority complex.

Day Tripper subject was noted as spacing out and being unresponsive. initial belief was another failed batch and need to liquefy subject. Post trip testing found that subject was merely lethargic on consumption due to near immediate disassociation high. Cerebral tap found elevated seratonin and dopamine levels consistent with opiate use, but metabolite product did not bind to endorphin receptors. Oddly, subject beat me in several games of Uno in an uncharacteristic win streak that pushed statistical bounds.

>>25648346
Calmex subject was found to be afraid of needles during administration. When left during post injection cleanup, subject was found to have escaped, and guard incapacitated by blow to the back of the head. Subject proceeded to elude detection for the next 10 minutes before being found attempting to hack electronic door open.
Administered 3 ccs of Ketamine via dart and placed subject in isolation cell.

>>25648346
>>25648383
Well said, and saving this if ever inquired again in the future. It's a wonder how chem using raiders are not significant threats in stories even with the standard chems.

>>25648150
While you enable your captives the ability to outsmart and overpower you in various ways. Let me ask you why are Mirelurk Cakes exponentially more potent than the east coast ingredients in terms of healing and their ability to bestow long term breathing underwater?

And why despite the miraculous healing properties of Sparkle Cola RAD in Maressachusetts, they only cost marginally more than a healing potion?

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>>25648523
a) Because those filthy east coast ponies in Manehatten and Baltimare got the recipe all wrong. All you need is some razor grain and industrial oil to unlock the magical water breathing properties. Not any of those wasteful use of stale bread. mayonnaise and hoof fulls of salt.

b) For all of Sparkle Cola's RAD's to heal and somehow bolster more uses in S.A.T.S. Nopony wants to see their piss glow, and that fact alone has really depreciated the value of the drink.

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I shouldnt be allowed near modding tools.
ignore the spelling error on mintals, just seeing if shit worked

>>25648733
>muny
omg neuro pls

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>>25648759
I cant stop

>>25648854
It's definitely time for that intervention.

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>>25647133
>That's brilliant
Hmm...I don't know if praise from Somber is a good thing.

On one hand, he wasn't a giant asshole today. On the other, it's good to stay weary of his past shitposting.

Thank you regardless, yo

>>25648951
>I don't know if praise from Somber is a good thing.
He's one of the judges for the next round of EqD potentials. Curious to see if he can overpower his compulsive need to fix everything and keep from sperging while he's reading other stories.

>>25648951

It is bad. Go burn your idea before it spawns lovecraftian meteor gods and speaking soulballs-sucking anime monolyth

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>>25648854
NEURO PLS

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>>25649021
I'd actually be amused to see the margin filling stuff here. Will Somber beat the Torah for most additions outweighing the original material?
Tune into EQD soon to find out.

Or Adult Swim next year to see him copy Samurai Jack. Which would be quite acceptable as things go.

>>25642883
C

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>>25649290
*cough*

>>25649599
Lacquered Samurai armor dude, you lost it centuries ago. Oh and Japanese rope bondage, definitely one of the better things out there.

>>25649636
I think you misinterpreted my post. Though I don't argue the point about the Samurai armor.

>>25649636
>Lacquered Samurai armor dude
That's my new favorite name for Riddles.

>>25649599
Lacquered Samurai Armor Dude pls

>>25649726
>Lacquered Samurai Armor Dude
>LSAD

>Lesad
>Lesaad
>Leysad
>Leysahd
>Dasel
>Dahsel

One of these is a name...

>>25649882
LSD.

>>25650203
>LSD
>Elesdee
>Elestee
>Elastic
>Latex

>>25650309
~

>>25649021
I haven't even been remotely following. Which stories are up for review? Are they still choosing?

>>25650764
Hooves of Fate is gonna win, hands down. Even I know this. But it's

-Hooves of Fate
-Starlight
-Outlaw

I'm not too worried about Starlight but I know HoF is gonna thrash me.

>>25650790
Sorry what is this?

>>25651001
Judges (this time it's Somber, Arowid and some rando) are reading these and voting on them to determine the next fic to get an EqD page.

Last time it was Sisters. The time before that it was Treasure Hunting.

>>25651045
So basically its to decide which fic "ascends" to FoE godhood?

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>>25648733
kek

>>25651096
>godhood
Easy there, anon. I don't think TH and Sisters have benefited all that much from being given their own pages, and having a page hasn't caused anyone to think of them as one of the "Big [number]" stories.

>>25651096
>>25651137
Quite the opposite in TH's case. Anons were quick to bring Hnetu down to earth when she asked if this made her one of the Big 5.

I don't think there will ever be another "big" fic like the ones we know today. Just recommended reading.

>>25651120
try again there matey

>>25651120
Need more jpeg

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Tell me about your factions, writefags

What are their goals? Where did they start? For what purpose?

>>25652307
I bet Alloy get's touchy feely when she's drunk.

>>25652383
I bet she gets punchy hitty.

>>25652388
Sounds adorable. I'd let her punch me for teasing her.

>>25652393
Anon, she's a smith. She'd probably beat the shit out of you.

>>25652393
I hope you have dental.

>>25652320
I can't say too much about it, but I have a faction that's heavily based on Venice in the middle ages. It's a republic, they have a fleet of small trading ships and small military vessels, and they're all about conducting and controlling trade. Think of a caravan company, but with boats and sailors instead of pack brahmin and guards.

>>25652388
I always thought she'd be angry when drunk, but so poorly coordinated that she's harmless.

>>25652408
>>25652399
adorable small horse hooves are made out of marshmallows anons, how much could they hurt?

>>25648334
What's that reaction supposed to mean?

>>25652418
>famous last words

>>25652434
>filly
>8 stregth

>>25652434
>6 years old
>stronger than most adults

>>25652442
>>25652449

She's also low IQ to balance it out.

>>25652467
That's not the point. The point is that she has 8 STR and she's six.

>>25652467
You rather missed the point.

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>>25643750

>>25652415
Get back to work.

>>25652479
>>25652481
You don't just fucking grow SPECIAL, anons. Are you telling me that he should pick a low STR because she's young and have it stay exactly the same when she's older? It doesn't work like that.

>>25652499
She could take special training perks when she grows up :^)

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>>25652499
But it DOES have to make sense, you dolt.

Excuse me while I design my first PNP character
He's a fragile looking zebra riddled with bone cancer and has a body cast

He has 8 strength.

>>25652499
Of course you grow SPECIAL. You play the games as adults, you've already done the growing.
He gave her small frame for free because of her age. Her base can be 8, but she isn't anywhere near being full grown, so there should be a temporary reduction that shrinks as she grows up.
Or do you actually think it would make sense for her to be as strong now as she will be as and adult?

>>25652544
>>25652553
I don't PnP m8s. I don't know how you nerds handle things.

>>25652571
This isn't PnP.
It's basic logic.

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>>25652320
Trojans (name pending)
An army of slaves in vein of NV's Caesar's Legion, but the core difference being that they imitate the cruelest and harsh values of the Three Ancient Pony Tribes as they believe that going back to their historical roots will enable them to thrive in their irradiated nation.
They comprise of ponies who remained in the homeland of the Three Ancient Pony Tribes, a humble assortment of wasteland towns and tribes where the significance of their country's history faded to obscurity until the mass exodus of raiders being driven out of Equestria post-Sunshine and Rainbows, pillaging and victimizing inhabitants throughout the regions. After finding old texts about what what the Three Tribes used to be, one pony banded his fellow countryfolk and tribes together into a reactionary military society to drive out the raiders. However, these once humble ponies need a slave economy to keep their empire running, and are eternally resentful to the NCR/Equestria for indirectly causing the Trojans to become what they are.

>>25652553
>>25652592
You pick your SPECIAL when you're a baby in F3, so...

>>25652553
I actually intend to play her as a child, not aging, or growing up. So if I'm playing a pnp, she needs to be able to hold her own. She's born a raider, and I didn't want her to be immediately killed by other players.

Besides, I just like making characters with weird stats. I wanted a child with stooper strength.

I also have an Epony with low strength, but high agility and intelligence.

>>25652620
And it's not relevant until you're nineteen.

>>25652640
Doesn't change the fact that you can be a fucking toddler and a 10 year old with 10 STR.

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>>25652571
I don't PNP either, I'm just like, using that as an example

>>25652622
Well, don't get all upset when we call it weird then!

>>25652597
>Trojans (name pending)
>An army of slaves in vein of NV's Caesar's Legion, but the core difference being that they imitate the cruelest and harsh values of the Three Ancient Pony Tribes as they believe that going back to their historical roots will enable them to thrive in their irradiated nation.

>>25652597
Ooh, I'm loving that faction info

>tfw armor design is almost the same as mine
But mine's like that because they basically modernized the pre-war guard armor, like the ones from the show that guard Canterlot

>>25652665
Except you can't. That's what you will have, as an adult.

>>25652665
But it does change it considering you play as an adult

Unlike anon up there that plays as a kid

c:

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>>25652320
An assortment of griffons who splintered from Gawd's Talons, desiring to continue working for profit and mercenary contracts rather than contribute to rebuilding Equestria and ventured far south of Equestria to more lawless regions to operate. Formerly comprised of the worst aspects of the Talons, they will take any contract, and be excessive in its execution. A 'quest' in my story would have been to instating a young griffon into her father's office and decide whether to reform the mercenary organization to the old ideals of the Talons or remain amoral freelancers.
This faction would refer themselves as The Gunners

>>25652695
That oughtta ruffle Gawd's feathers, seeing her underlings split off like that.
Any retaliation on her part?

>>25652677
That was some other anon. Not me. I just lit the fire to watch the flame war.

To everyone else:

Who says a 6 year old in a pnp can't have 8 str?

I thought the point was to make your own characters however you liked?

I followed the rule book, and nowhere did it state that you can't have a high strength child.

>>25652791
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

>>25652808
Just be cause I shouldn't, means I will.

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>>25652791
>I thought the point was to make your own characters however you liked?

>>25652818
Eugh, don't be that guy, anon.
Nobody likes that guy.

>>25652791
Characters that don't make sense are lazy.
People want to know why they're odd. If your only explanation is "lol game mechanics" then no ones going to think much of your character.

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>>25652717
The concept was that while one of the protagonists is in Equestria, Gawd or NCR's next Arbiter will impart essentially, "Oh yeah, while you're there. Go kill those Gunners for turning their back on us."

While the Gunners are deciding to align with the Trojans against Equestria, and it's up to the other protagonist whether to decimate them, reintegrate them back to Equestria, or allow the alliance with the Trojans to happen. The latter is an option on the table especially considering that despite the Trojan's harsh policies, the NCR are the invading aggressors in conflict and the implication they caused all the hardships for the Trojans in the first place.

>>25652320
(if anybody wants to improve and/or take my concept, be my guest)
The idea was for this faction to be drawn from NV's Powder Gangers, which for now in the context of FoE I'll be calling them the Cherry Bombers. Convicts who broke out of an NCR prison facility. However the faction has the twist of being short lived as the NCR immediately curbs their activities, with a few lucky to slip back into surrounding settlements or getting release pardon. I've all but scrapped this plan as they're almost nothing more than a copy-paste in their origin.

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>>25652677
Ain't much I can glean what they can become from Hearth's Warming Eve episode... or how much of the play is accurate.

Wagers up whether The Trojans depiction in my idea is practicing the true non-bowlderized values of the Three Ancient Tribes or exaggerated the Tribes most extreme lifestyles to suit their purposes.
ie the possibility of misinterpreting The Earth Pony Tribes' hard labour for mass slavery. The Pegasus Tribe' military society as conquerors...and I don't know what the Trojans can draw from the Unicorn Tribe if they can't claim to raise the sun or moon in modern Equestria.

>>25653006
I'd ditch that pronto, bruv
Copy-pasted stuff is awful and can't be done right

>>25653057
Oh, I didn't mean to include the quoting above the last part, sorry!
Sounds like an interesting faction. an analogue done right, unlike the Cherry Bombers up there.