Tuor Edition.
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>>8235735
>Just answer and he goes back to reading.
Why does this sound so funny? Like some kind of feral animal.
First for Dinosaurs to return, my life has been so empty without them.
>>8235718
Tuor had it too good, immortality and elf bitch on the side while being born human.
His cousin was far more interesting.
>>8235768
He still had it pretty fucked up.
>>8235585
Only 100 pages? Your progress seems to be slowing down
Fuck the great ordeal shill.
I had a dream that shapeshifting monsters were following me, they were killing everyone one by one, and replacing them with shapeshifters. They tried to lure me by having a girl spread eagle, "she" told me to ear her out and fuck her... when I felt around the labia I felt something that i thought was an octopus beak... "She" wanted to either take my tongue or dick to incapacitate me long enough to capture.
Apparently they need to harvest your "soul" (it's described as a shiny silvery cylindrical object, about the size and width of your index finger ) before they can "take your place". They knew I was onto them because I stopped one of the harvesting and they wanted to blame the found body on me...
For some reason I was inside the interior of a church, but when i exited it was my house.... I saved someone and we had to jump from three stories up because they wanted my soul.
The shapeshifter in natural appearance looks like it has an open venus fly trap, crossed with a hammerhead shark for a head, and the body looks like that shit on hyperion books but instead of thorns it's black snakes....
I hope the shill dies.
>>8235718
>Tolkien never completed his novel on the Fall of Gondolin
>>8235838
9 days!
Ten orders. We were loved, once. Why have you forsaken us, Almighty! Shard of my soul, where have you gone?
>>8235869
Sanderson is and anime
Instead he heard the voice, uttered through a hundred thousand Sranc throats, flaring like bright-burning coals packed into his skull...The voice of the No-God.
>WHAT DO YOU SEE
See? What could he...
>I MUST KNOW WHAT YOU SEE
The great King turned from him, reached for the Heron Spear
>TELL ME
>WHAT AM I?
>>8235838
Love you too senpai
>>8235863
Can't wait. I hope it's coming out in Australia at the same time but it's literally impossible to find reliable Aussie release dates for books.
>One time, when he’d returned to the tenement and hadn’t found her sitting in her window, he had dared come up to her door, moved by some shameful curiosity. What’s she like with the others? Is she the same as she’s with me! He could hear her gasp beneath some grunting body, hear her bed creak to the rhythm of thrusting groins. And it seemed his heart stopped. Clammy skin and ringing ears.
>He’d placed numb fingertips against the door. There, on the other side . . . There she was, his Esmi, her legs wrapped around another man, her breasts shining with his sweat. He remembered flinching when she climaxed and thinking: That cry is mine! Mine!
It begins...
>>8235932
Don't bully Akka, he's a good boy who did literally nothing wrong.
I really hope Talk the Younger will get intimate with the sweet young lady he is going to go on a journey with, his one eye is a very bad hindrance to him
>>8235838
I cam smell the semen in you, recognise the Bakkerfags who raped you from the sound made by the baubles of sweat running down their backs.
>>8235885
>the last time the No God was awake, there were enough sranc to take over the world
>now there are one hundred times as many
Earwa is fucked.
>Multiple versions of the same audiobook
Why is this allowed?
>>8236001
You should be glad you have a choice.
>>8236001
>Sanderson
>audiobook
This is like...DOUBLE cancer. I'm impressed.
>>8236139
Have you even read Sanderson?
>>8236139
My sister reccomended it, and Im not going to listen to the radio on my commute.
>>8236001
>each has a different time
>>8236157
>All are "unabridged"
>>8235585
You are beginning to feel more confident about your grasp of events, though still confused on occasion.
The desire for closure is a familiar ache in an undescribable location.
You think it holds promise.
Yes, and furthermore you resolve to at least finish the book before posting again on that swedish souffle bartering board.
Hello, /sffg/, I'm looking for a couple of, what might be niche, recommendations.
>Could you point me to something where theme is about honor and oyalty existing in a dog eat dog world
GoT comes to mind here with the Night's watch, Kingsguard and House Stark
>A fantasy or sci-fi setting with a multitude of races and species that play a significant role in the world
A good example here would be the Bas Lag trilogy or the Malazan series
>A setting which has people dealing with something that is beyond their limits of comprehension
Lovecraft, The Southern Reach Trilogy, Hyperion
>>8236290
The Red Knight by Cameron
Recommend me some cuckcore sff.
>>8236857
Bakker apparently
>>8236863
Not literal cucking, 4chan cucking. I'm looking for sff for left leaning SJWs, bonus points if the bad guys are religious conservatives.
>>8236869
You're literally describing Mieville's Embassytown.
>>8236877
That's about language though
>>8236290
The Night Land by William Hope Hodgson.
>>8236888
Not really, It's not so subtly about Britbong politics.
>>8236877
Will check out, thank you.
How about the complete opposite tho? /pol/core sff, as it were. I like variety.
>>8236905
I'm glad I missed it. All I read was a fun SF novel.
>>8236290
>multitude of races and species
Perdido Street Station - Some people on this general don't like it because the author is a socialist or something apparenty, though I didn't quite feel it while reading it.
>beyond their limits of comprehension
Most books by Alastair Reynolds, Revelation Space is as good a place to start as any.
>>8236869
Crown of cold silver
Every character is bisexual
Trans characters are accepted everywhere
Enemy is the big bad not-Catholic church
You can also try the works of N K Jemisin
>>8236907
John C. Wright isn't quite /pol/core but he's pretty traditionalist. Even when he's writing transhumanism. John Barnes is liberal but his Jak Jinnaka trilogy is set in a satirical future where democracy is mostly regarded as a silly atavism.
Although the highest-profile /pol/core would have to be the Red Rising trilogy.
>trick your way into the genetic aristocracy
>realize they are actually great at ruling things and leave them to it
>>8236290
It's funny because out of your three examples of loyalty and honor in GoT, the Kinsguard has been a fucking joke for more than two decades and is filled with unworthy scum, the NW has always been a gathering of murderers, rapists and assorted cutthroats, and House Stark had like two honorable people who basically killed themselves with their own honor.
>>8236907
That's much more difficult, /pol/ is quite politically diverse.
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress and Starship Troopers obviously.
>>8236979
The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress probably endorses too much sexual degeneracy to be /pol/ approved.
>>8236979
I already read those, but thank you all the same.
I feel like Heinlein doesn't give much of a shit about characters, plot, pacing, prose, just as long as he can preach his philosophy and show you just how much you are wrong and he is right.
>hey guys, turns out pure libertarianism IS possibile...
>...if you happen to have a near-omniscient and near-omnipotent AI at your complete disposal solving your every problem, that is.
Stranger In A Strange Land is the same, just with Michael Valentine Smith's magic powers instead of the AI.
>>8236935
Are you the guy who recommended Barnes's Candle and Kaleidoscope a couple of threads back?
>>8237025
>just as long as he can preach his philosophy and show you just how much you are wrong and he is right
How is that possible when all his books are shilling contradictory ideologies?
>>8236295
>>8237171
But incestuos rape is a key plot point
>>8236154
Elantris is his first book, I suggest the stormlight archives.
>>8237291
Not in the first book desu.
Anyone on /lit/ read Sudanna Sudanna? It's actually better than Dune.
>>8237604
>It's actually better than Dune.
That's not a hard thing to accomplish
>>8237604
I liked it better when it was called footloose
>>8237612
heh, too right good sir
*pushes up glasses with stone cold look in his eye and offers hand in a show of camaraderie*
>>8237604
Hard concept to swallow, I'm a big fan of Dune.
I never liked Herbert's prose/writing, more his ideas. What makes you think I'll enjoy this more than Doon?
The teenage girl POV in Second Foundation is pretty creepy T B H.
I think Asimov wanted to fuck Arcadia.
>>8237818
Really, what makes it "creepy"? I agree as a male reader the female perspective can be a little odd, and too many writers simply write women as men. (Asimov kind of does this to be honest) What gave you the impression he wanted to fuck her?
I'm currently writing some chapters from a ladies perspective for my shitty lifes work, and I was slightly concerned about how descriptions of """femine""" specific actions could be a little disturbing. But literally no writer ever describes situations where this awkwardness comes up, so neither will I. Or neither does Asimov really.
Arcadia's hardly a little girl either is she? Admittedly it's been a while he might have mentioned her age, but I remember her being a very sharp cookie.
Personally I think you're a bit of a pervert, but who cares. Second Foundation was let down more by those retarded scenes involving the Second Foundation folks, where all dialogue was through like moving their fingers.
>>8237861
>where all dialogue was through like moving their fingers.
upon second reading this kind of mugging off sign language. I mean the scenes where they're talking through like minimal facial actions and eyebrows and other random shit
fuck I dont know I read foundation years ago leave me alone
Any slavs/ruskies here? How was Metro 2035? I'll probably learn enough russian to read it before it gets translated, but i'm curious still.
>>8237818
>teenage girl POV
>in a story narrated in third person
>>8237818
>The teenage girl POV
Uh huh...
>>8237909
Not him, but a third person narration can be told from a character's point of view. Like, when the narrator knows only what the POV char knows.
>>8237948
What if the third person narrator says exactly what the character thinks and the characters thinks of itself in third person?
>>8237041
Yes. I am his only fan here. Vocal fan at least. Same for Adam Roberts as far as I can tell.
>>8236139
The only way to get through most fantasy dogshit is to listen on audiobook.
are there illustrations or depictions of what the different worlds/realms/dimensions in gene wolfe's the knight look like? i'm having difficulty imagining what mythgarthr looks like from aelfrice and aelfrice from muspel are stuff like that.
>>8238269
>Fantasy writers will never learn how to cut out unnecessary garbage from their stories
>>8238369
You've been spending to much time reading Reddit approved ebic fantasy Anon.
>>8237025
The AI was mostly just a way to speed up the plot. Judging from his other books, Heinlein thought that libertarianism was both desireable and only possible in a low-density, high-trust environment. As population density increases, more restriction become necessary because MUH RIGHTS start getting in someone else's way. This is hinted at near the end of Harsh Mistress--the AI is obviously going to start harshing everyone's mellow once resource constraints become a problem.
The solution is to keep expanding into space forever, ensuring that somewhere a frontier-type environment always exists where the can-do libertarian spirit can be fully expressed.
So I've been thinking about reading Mistborn but read it's a drag to read.
Any shorter series with a girl protagonist?
>>8238505
Read the thread
>>8238522
Oh, didn't notice it's 6 am
Thanks
What's some sci fi similar to Peter Watts' stuff
I'm a big fan of how he wanks off over philosophy and neuroscience and shit
>>8238382
But if I don't read them how will I be able to write 3+ posts worth of walls of text about why they're bad when a redditor tries to come here and argue they're good?
>>8238553
How could you not notice it's 6 am? There's a timepiece in the lower right side of your screen, infant.
>Eden Newman must mate before her 18th birthday in six months or she'll be left outside to die in a burning world. But who will pick up her mate-option when she's cursed with white skin and a tragically low mate-rate of 15%? In a post-apocalyptic, totalitarian, underground world where class and beauty are defined by resistance to an overheated environment, Eden's coloring brands her as a member of the lowest class, a weak and ugly Pearl. If only she can mate with a dark-skinned Coal from the ruling class, she'll be safe. Just maybe one Coal sees the Real Eden and will be her salvation her co-worker Jamal has begun secretly dating her. But when Eden unwittingly compromises her father's secret biological experiment, she finds herself in the eye of a storm and thrown into the last area of rainforest, a strange and dangerous land. Eden must fight to save her father, who may be humanity's last hope, while standing up to a powerful beast-man she believes is her enemy, despite her overwhelming attraction. Eden must change to survive but only if she can redefine her ideas of beauty and of love, along with a little help from her "adopted aunt" Emily Dickinson.
Is this any good?
Do I like the Silverfox parts?
Do I think this book is good so far?
Do I want to keep reading?
I was hoping someone could help me remember a short story I read, It's a story about a group of people trapped at the back-end of the galaxy because their one-way teleporters no longer work.Two people eventually figure out that the teleporter are sending the data needed to build a new "self" to the next location, but is failing to destroy the one at the original location. The Self at the receiving location goes on thinking it has been successfully teleported, while the original is stuck at the start point. Armed with this knowledge, they "send" themselves through one more time to pass on the knowledge of what's going on.
Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>8238369
>but my world build and intricate magic systems
>>8238902
this is a joke right?
>>8239023
Yes and published unironically by a white woman who thought she was being progressive.
"It's not racist it's about global warming!"
>>8238902
Kek, this sounds like someone made /pol/'s bizarro reality into a YA book
Anybody read Mark Lawrence? I've taken a real liking to his novels, and he puts them out at a steady pace too.
>>8239232
Terrible pop author.
>tfw almost finished with book 8 of WoT
Bring it on Jordan, not even bored yet. Bowl of Winds was small time, this isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be.
>>8239289
Epic fantasy is a meme.
>>8239299
Calling books memes is a meme.
>>8239303
What I mean is that in any "epic fantasy" you will inevitably have repeated plotlines, themes, and characters which are indistinguishable from each other. The author just runs out of things to say.
>>8238917
Do I want people to respond to this?
>>8239371
You realize "epic fantasy" doesn't refer to book length / long series? There's plenty of stand alone epic fantasy.
Someone please recommend me some good books with the plot based around time travel
The crazier it gets the better
>>8239488
End of Eternity, Asimov
>>8239488
The Man Who Folded Himself.
If you're a faggot.
>>8239488
All You Zombies is a short story but probably the best original time travel story.
>>8239509
Having read the synopsis of that it sounds terrible and internally inconsistent. All You Zombies has a similar premise but actually works with its own logic.
>>8239488
John C. Wright has a few.
>time travel is never invented, only given to inventors by crazed versions of their future selves
>there is a working time machine in the basement of the SFWA house, but the intelligent life that's cramming the universe full won't ever let us use it because human time travelers caused the paradoxes that let them exist
>>8235718
doesspoilerwork here?
I'm yet to decide if I love it or I just like this one.
What does /sffg/ think about the Witcher books? I just finished reading the Spanish translation of the first one and I really liked it.
>>8239621
>It's mediocre.
The Last Wish was pretty entertaining, and, naturally, I can't comment on the other books in the series. What is mediocre about them? The prose in the Spanish translation is good, although quite light.
Any books with rich, impressive worldbuilding?
Also are there any good dystopian fantasy/scifi books the ones on the flowchart look like politicized shite I want a quality story not an opinion piece.
>>8239645
They aren't particularly well written.
They aren't masterpieces of imagination.
The characters have enough personally only to be entertaining.
There's little to no depth to it.
As you say, it's entertaining, but that's where it ends.
>>8239648
Book of the New Sun
>>8239666
All true but those are all good things imo, which is why I really like them.
>>8239488
>plot based around time travel
How about books that take you back in time?
>>8239686
Just know, it goes downhill extremely fast, the second novel is bad and Ciri kills it.
She's even the worst thing about the game, I should get a no Ciri mod somewhere.
>>8238229
There are 3-4 people who read and like Roberts, myself included. So you're not alone!
About Barnes, you said those books had f/d. You weren't rusing, were you? I tried to find out a bit about that but found no mention.
>>8239016
>Sifting through 20 pages of a character explaining another character's magic like some shounen anime describing the bad guy of the week's abilities
>>8239739
>>8239488
All You Zombies, Heinlein
End of Eternity, Asimov
City Beyond Time, Wright
Dinosaur Beach, Keith Laumer
The Time Traveler's Wife, Audrey Niffenegger
The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, PKD
The Book of the New Sun, Wolfe
>>8239723
f/d?
I just finished Sword of the Lictor and I have to ask your opinion.
What was Typhon's role in the book? He only appeared for a couple of chapters, acted all high and mighty to Severian and died from literally a punch to the face by the irrationally skilled and powerful protagonist.
I think he was some sort of snare for Severian, someone who would ultimately stop Severian's quest (whatever it is, no spoilers, I only finished the first 3 thus far) by deceiving him and offering him promises (rule over Urth) in exchange for allegiance.
Does Typhon know something about Severian that we, as first-time readers, don't?I'm beginning to discern some of the intricacies of this story but I am completely puzzled at Severian's encounter with Typhon, and how he dispatched such a powerful ruler so easily. I almost didn;t believe it was over, alas the book ended and Typhon is no more.
>>8238917
>Do I like the Silverfox parts?
Does anyone?
She was such a fucking Mary Sue, I was making a sour-punch-straw face when I had to read her parts.
>>8240042
maybe you should read the rest of the books, you turd
>>8240048
Out of the first 3 books which I have already read, the part with Typhon was the weirdest. It stuck with me the most.
>>8239488
Some Classics:
Time Machine - Wells
The Time Ships - Baxter
>>8240042
>What was Typhon's role in the book?
Satan figure, one who rebelled against the natural law.
>He only appeared for a couple of chapters, acted all high and mighty to Severian and died from literally a punch to the face by the irrationally skilled and powerful protagonist.
Severian knew human anatomy well and even explained how he managed to do it while being the physical inferior to him.
Considering how little action there is in the novels and how Severian doesn't walk away from it like some self insert, I don't see the "irrationality skilled and powerful". He talks his way out of the Alzabo, survives the Harambes with the help of the Claw, is a cripple by the end of the novel, one of the space creatures saves him from the cultists and so on.
>I think he was some sort of snare for Severian, someone who would ultimately stop Severian's quest (whatever it is, no spoilers, I only finished the first 3 thus far) by deceiving him and offering him promises (rule over Urth) in exchange for allegiance.
The Satan symbolism is probably the most obvious in the novel, how did you miss it?
>Does Typhon know something about Severian that we, as first-time readers, don't?I'm beginning to discern some of the intricacies of this story but I am completely puzzled at Severian's encounter with Typhon, and how he dispatched such a powerful ruler so easily. I almost didn;t believe it was over, alas the book ended and Typhon is no more.
He's no longer a ruler, his power dwindled away and only the decay is left.
>>8239488
Technically about looking through time rather than actual travel, but well worth it
>>8239488
The Anubis Gates
Also bought a trilogy by Moorcrock recently called The Prince in Scarlet Robe, worth a good starting point for his works and universe?
All that hype for age of myrh and it turned out to be a elves bent on world domination novel.
Also no GRI, not even elves going after that prime human pussy. This fucker is Sanderson tier, you would have at least given us an elf riding dick like a fiend.
Fuck that noise.
>>8235718
>http://i.imgur.com/gNTrDmc.jpg/
What makes Drowned World better than Crystal World?
>>8240074
>Technically about looking through time rather than actual travel,
Is this the book that movie the movie with ben Affleck was based on? Where in the future they can wipe your memories and this guy built a len that can look through time?
>>8240182
That was Paycheck by PKD.
>>8240194
Radio Free Albemuth too
>>8240194
10 movies, 9 books afaik.
>>8240199
>Dystopian group is called Friends of the American People, or FAP for short
>They're regularly referred to as FAPers
>mfw
Currently on chapter 4 of Claw of the Conciliator, and so far, only one thing puzzled me, and i don't know if it'll ever be revealed in the books, so might as well ask.
>be Severian
>suddenly, see in the horizon some red structure flying up and dissappearing in the sky
>Welp, turns out i love Dorcas!
What the hell was up with that?
>>8240194
>>the giver
>Shit movie to be desu
You sure you wanted to quote me anon?
>>8240457
>closet commie seems a bit uncanny compared to real life with recent world leaders.
Your Cultural Marxism conspiracy a shit.
>>8240474
>conspiracy theory
Some people are authoritarian but don't want to admit it. Where in that is a conspiracy or a theory?
Eight days, boys, and the slog of slogs will finally be over.
>>8240588
It got split into two books.
The slog of slogs continues next year in The Unholy Consult
>>8236290
>GoT comes to mind here with the Night's watch, Kingsguard and House Stark
come on, the only theme it has about honor is that having one kills you.
>>8239648
The flowchart is from reddit, not sure why it's linked here.
>>8240866
I found Malazan far more of a slog than WoT. There were parts of WoT I would put on par with Malazan, but not the whole thing.
>>8240866
No, slog of slogs is what Akkas journey in Aspect-Emperor is commonly referred to as.
>>8240881
I find WoT to be super comfy desu, I'm not in any hurry to finish it so I don't really care how long it is.
>>8240890
I enjoy rereading WoT for my favorite characters but there's also characters I can't stand reading who get far too much focus later in the series (Elayne).
>>8240506
Somebody being authoritarian doesnt make them a secret commie lmao.
>>8240417
The link you posted. Look at it again.
The best fantasy is written in the language of dreams. It is alive as dreams are alive, more real than real … for a moment at least … that long magic moment before we wake.
Fantasy is silver and scarlet, indigo and azure, obsidian veined with gold and lapis lazuli. Reality is plywood and plastic, done up in mud brown and olive drab. Fantasy tastes of habaneros and honey, cinnamon and cloves, rare red meat and wines as sweet as summer. Reality is beans and tofu, and ashes at the end. Reality is the strip malls of Burbank, the smokestacks of Cleveland, a parking garage in Newark. Fantasy is the towers of Minas Tirith, the ancient stones of Gormenghast, the halls of Camelot. Fantasy flies on the wings of Icarus, reality on Southwest Airlines. Why do our dreams become so much smaller when they finally come true?
We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La.
They can keep their heaven. When I die, I’d sooner go to middle Earth.
>>8241082
Shut the fuck up and finish your fucking books you fat pervert.
>>8241082
>They can keep their haven I want to go to an idealized world written by a Catholic which is almost haven already
Can Meme Wolfe fans EVER recover?
>>8241143
Philosophical right, it's the "19 year olds aren't horny because they are misogynists" Keeley.
He used to post here, the faggot.
>>8241082
I feel sorry for him. There's plenty of "magic" in real life. Also, he says he wants fantasy to be dreamlike while his own series is a bad soap opera set in not-Medieval-Europe.
>>8240006
A certain type of illicit relationship.
>>8241143
Does he not understand that one of the greatest opportunities in fantasy is that of making the metaphorical into the literal? And has he even read the Bible?
>>8241177
Part of thetime loopin Kaleidoscope Century.
>>8241158
Why did he come here when he already has a cult on GR?
>>8241201
The Wolfe was too strong for him.
>>8241158
I think some of his reviews are alright. Sometimes he misses the point and they go on and on, but he occasionally points out things that would be pet peeves for me.
>>8235863
Just got a copy at B&N. Worth checking if you have one local. Not sure if my local store fucked up or what...no complaints though.
Is it just me or is Dune Messiah a lot more confusing when discussing things like prescience and visions than the first book. I find myself getting lost when Paul is in some kind of weird vision within vision fuckery and have some trouble understanding the extent of his abilities and what he's capable of. Was a lot easier to follow along in the first book.
>>8241317
Street date is the 12th, but B&N is fucking it up everywhere but where I am
Who /consult/ here?
>going to hell for fapping
Is my story "fantasy" if I genuinely believe in magic in reality, and the way I'm writing it reflects this reality?
>>8241566
Magical Realism
Got this off one of the recommendation charts.
Is it supposed to chop back and forth mid-sentence between the Navidson shit, and johnny acting like a faggy teenagers wet dream or did I get a bad file?
>>8241587
That isn't sff.
>>8241082
>Romanticizes whimsical fantasy, says it's all the good things that life has to offer and real life is depressing and boring
>His books are all low fantasy drenched in drab realism and petty drama
>>8241617
i mean it's psychological horror genre fiction
lovecraft would be permissible here, no?
>>8241551
>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who accept the arbitrary damnation of the gods instead of joining the consult to cleanse the world below 144,000 souls
>It is a cold and dreary winter. Once again Kaladin, who is now as much at home in the Silent Halls as he had been in the forests, sits at the table in his secret room. His hands are deep in his ragged pockets. Before him is spread a great sail of paper that not only covers the table, but descends in awkward folds and creases to the floor on every side. A portion near its centre is covered with markings, laboriously scripted words, short arrows, dotted lines, and incomprehensible devices. It is a map; a map which Mr Dalinar has been working upon for over a year. It is a map of the district that surrounds him – the empty world, whose anatomy, little by little, he is piecing together, extending, correcting, classifying. He is, it seems, in a city that has been forsaken and he is making it his own; naming its streets and alleys, its avenues of granite, its winding flights and blackened terraces – exploring ever further its hollow hinterlands, while over all, like a lowering sky, as continuous and as widespread are the endless ceilings and the unbroken roof.
Wow, Sanderson has really improved his prose tbqh
>>8241720
Die
>>8241720
I-is that from a new book?
Roadside picnic is great so far. I can't believe it was written since 1977. It ages really well, I guess that's the hallmark of a great book.
>>8239289
7 and 8 are fine. 9 and 10 fucking suck.
>>8240890
Wheel of Time is comfy as fuck. Enjoy your first read through while it lasts.
>>8241629
I bet everyone on the McDonalds corporate board prefers fine dining to ordering off the dollar menu until you can't stand up too.
Who did they hire to write this instead of the demented Mr. Pratchett, and why did he/she feel the need to insert all their cute "jabs" at free market capitalism?
Was it his wife? Daughter? A dreadlocked, grubby hippy who was busking on the corner near the Pratchett estate?
>>8242883
Haven't read that one but
>Making Money is and isn't fantasy, he says, because money itself is a major fantasy in the "real" world. "We've agreed that these numbers of conceptual things like dollars have a value."
Dear oh dear. The ironic thing is that we could change this by privatising money.
>>8243106
But it's true, money is just paper that is being hoarded by the elite, but if everyone had money then we could end world hunger and poverty, it's as easy as printing out more money
>>8241143
So uh, I don't post on /lit/ very often, but this guy's reviews are a joke right? Nobody actually takes them seriously?
>>8243218
His reviews are quite popular.
Goodreads is a shithole.
Never read a book in my life
Which fantasy book should break my virginity I can't decide
>>8243216
>tfw I know people who actually think this
>they don't realise that society is great because of Based Capitalism
>>8243231
The Hobbit. And you must have read a book in English class at school right?
>>8243224
Well I figured good reads would give him a following given the kind of people on that site, but I meant on this board. Your answer seems to have assured me that he's not taken seriously here at least.
I actually gave up reading it a ways in when he dropped all pretenses and just started bragging about himself.
>>8243241
He got insulted and laughed at back when he posted the review here in a Wolfe thread.
It's a shame he makes Gormenghast look bad because he likes it.
His Left Hand of Darkness review was always hilarious,
>why didn't she write more about the suffering of the transgendered humans and how the Christians hate them hur dur
>>8243253
B-but there weren't Christians in TLHOD and those weren't even trans, is he retarded?
>>8243406
Well considering his main critique of Wolfe is that men don't actually want to fuck women because it's misogyny, yes, he is.
Also, try his reviews of philosophy.
Top memes.
This was a cozy piece of British fantasy from 1905. Lord Dunsany creates a world, a pantheon of gods, and their prophets, using the King James Bible vernacular.The prose is among the most mellifluous I have read.
It's also only fifty pages, and on wikisource.
>>8243417
I only read fantasy books that are more than 1000 pages.
I think Edge of Tomorrow might be my favourite sci-fi film to date.
It's got everything. The Starship Troopers level of cheesey advertising. The hilariously flawed main characters transition. A well written love interest who is also badass. Nitty aliens and nitty robotics. A good balance of humour and severity.
And it was all fairly believable, at least I thought. The entire film was very well done.
Thoughts? Any other good sci-fi films? I know this is /lit/ but you don't seriously expect me to go to /tv/ do you.
>>8243484
It's based on a manga (All You Need Is Kill) check it out.
>>8243468
A fine connoisseur of Sanderson I see.
what to read after solaris, leviathan wakes (the rest isn't in my native language) and 50% of scott card books?
i liked the space opera-ish atmosphere in leviathan wakes and the lack of ayy lmaos
>>8243539
Yeah don't read translations.
>>8242883
I thought the market simulator that got quantum-entangled with the market was pretty fun.
>>8243543
fuck you mean?
leviathan wakes is the only book by corey that's translated in my country and only by one publisher. they even divided it into two volumes
>>8243555
I mean "Don't read translations". Like the post says.
>>8243484
>Any other good sci-fi films?
For a while it felt like Tom Cruise was doing one every year. Would have been great.
Anyway, not really on that level. You'd have to go to anime for that. Planetes or Ryvius or Nadesico.
>tfw Planetes is crammed full of zero-g adaptations (professional womens' shorts) and has sound-free space scenes
>tfw Infinite Ryvius has space combat involving plotting out orbits hours ahead of time
>tfw both sides in Martian Successor Nadesico are having an arms race the entire time
>>8243561
took it for sarcasm
i've looked into caliban's war but i don't feel like stopping every 3 sentences and google-translating half of the stuff i don't understand
>>8243568
Get a Kindle then, shows definitions on press. I feel like you're exaggerating anyhow, if you can navigate 4chan and form grammatically correct sentences then you can read English books. Most stuff you can pick out by context, and the more you read the easier it gets. I know because English is my third language.
>>8243484
interstellar
primer
predestination
total recall
prometheus
maybe cube, inception, truman show?
space movies i didn't watch:
gravity
the martian
moon
2001 a space odyssey
day of independence
>>8243587
Gravity was actually great for the mysticism, if you can curb your autism about everything being on the same orbit. The scene where she takes off her suit and just hangs in a fetal position was excellent.
One week, sluts.
>>8243579
you can't really compare the level of english skill needed to understand this forum to scientific terminology imo
but fuck that, imma watch the expansion series tv show so no need to push it
all i wanted was some recommendations...
>>8243618
Yeah, you look it up. And then you know it forever. Those "hard" words aren't on every page either. You can choose to be stubborn and ignore the advice, that's your call, in the end it's only detrimental to you.
>>8243642
Except he already has a book he wants to read, but doesn't do so because "not in my native language".
>>8243224
They really need a dislike button.
>help me /sffg/ someone I disagree with won an sf award!
![Futari wa Pretty Cure 01 [YA] (9f02cdab).mkv_001211.380.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f4g6EpR.jpg "Futari wa Pretty Cure 01 [YA] (9f02cdab).mkv_001211.380.jpg")
>>8243642
>Ender's Game movie
Yeah, I heard the same people were making a Speaker for the Dead movie except everyone knows who Ender is and that piggies are trees from the beginning.
>>8243648
i've read it 2 years ago and the publisher said they're gonna release next book soon which they didn't do
i don't even remember half of the things in the first book but there's a tv show going on and i'm watching it so i don't need to read it especially when i'm gonna have a bad time doing it
capiche?
>>8243674
>I'm retarded and I want to stay retarded
As said, your choice. And the advice is not meant for that book specifically, but all of them.
>>8243690
I was making fun of the Ender's Game movie for having FTL travel/communication blatantly possible. What a crock.
>>8235718
What a horrible artwork.
>>8243690
If I knew enough Polish to browse their internet pages and be able to communicate myself there I'd read it in Polish, yes. You know enough English to read English original books in its intended language, saying anything else is just an excuse.
>>8243698
well it was the whole philote thing idea which on one hand was a good explanation for the formics comunnication but on the other hand it got raped to the level of moving to the """outside""" and soul transplantations
if i wasn't that little kid mesmerised by ender's game i would stop after the first book
good thing that aaron johnston is giving the series a new life tho
>>8243501
If Sanderson is the only author you know who writes 1k page books then that says more about you, than about me.
>>8243779
If you find fantasy books over 1k pages worth reading then that says more about you, than about me.
>>8243812
well there are 3 books in malazan over 1000 pages
Any Hubbard fans in here?
I'd like to read some sci-fi or fantasy (probably leaning more to fantasy right now but interested in both) but I don't really know where to start with those charts. Help out with a recommendation?
I generally read more literary stuff but I'd like something lighter to read on a long holiday I'm going on. But I wouldn't really be interested in anything that could be classed as YA or comedy in the vein of Pratchett or Douglas Adams. I've read necromancer and a few Philip K Dick books and liked Ubik the most, and I've read LotR and quite enjoyed that, though it was a bit long. I'd probably prefer standalone books or short series, not something so long as game of thrones
>>8243816
Erickson is as bad as Sanderson.
Only reinforces my point.
>>8243961
*tip*
>>8243501
>what is grime and punishment
>what is war and peace
>what are all the 1000 pages fantasy (it didn't happen in real life) out there
>>8243929
So...light, standalone and similar to either LOTR or Ubik. Let's see...you could try some Swanwick. The Dragons Of Babel is very good in my opinion as far as modern SFF goes, it only came out in like 2008.
>>8243657
Hi aram
>>8243657
Hello Theodore, how can we help you today? Have you taken your medication? You know you tend to yell at the sky without...yes, yes, the SJWs stole your pills. I understand.
>>8244047
Well I wouldn't necessarily say light, I just assumed whatever it was would be lighter than the medieval poetry I usually read.
And not necessarily looking for something like LotR or Ubik, just examples of something I've enjoyed. I don't really know what I'm after. I guess something a bit traditional, so from the flowchart for example, not zombies or magical realism. I feel I know very little so it's a bit hard to explain
Has anyone here read the Zelazny short story For A Breath I Tarry? Honestly amazing imo.
>>8244110
nope
>>8235718
Hi, I just read Tau Zero by Poul Anderson and I want to say that it sucks monkey's ball. Thank you.
>>8244110
Read This Immortal, Lord of Light, 5 Ambers, but not this one.
>>8244146
You should. Like much good sci fi, it got me thinking about what it means to be human.
Are there any novels that create a fantastical aesthetic? One of the things that I really enjoy about the fantasy genre when it comes to movies and video games is the wild imagery, the bizarre races.
I feel like fantasy novels should really be able to push that sort of thing, since they aren't limited by any sort of illustration, but most "fantasy" novels seem to be grim and gritty humans-only worlds nowadays.
>>8244201
>wild imagery, the bizarre races
in general, you get more of that in sci-fi
>>8244219
Yeah, but I'm not a huge fan of sci-fi. All the focus on tech and more contemporary / futuristic worlds isn't that interesting to me.
>>8244110
Yes, loved it and have recommended here several times.
>>8244201
Howl's Moving Castle by Diana Wynne Jones
>>8244033
>I have to broaden the definition of fantasy just to find decent books
>>8244325
One is also around 500 pages.
>>8244110
I loved Zelazny as a kid, I'd check out everything the library had of him. Probably noticed him at first because he was the last name on the SFF shelf. Anyway I loved For A Breath I Tarry but it was many years later that I was thinking about it and realized, "oh, it's the garden of Eden."What's more embarrassing is reading Rappaccini's Daughter in my 20s and not picking up on that.
>>8244110
Is it in a collection? Can't find it anywhere
>>8244439
Stainless Steel Leech iirc. That or Last Defender of Camelot.
>>8243961
>Sanderson and Erickson are bad
This has been proven to be objectively false time and time again. Fuck off.
>>8244162
>is an ayy lmao
>reads books to see what it is to be human
>hasn't experienced the filth that is humanity growing up
>doesn't see that humans live for war and destruction and are green with envy
>instead of reading to escape the curse that is humanity, he reads to embrace and revile in it
I bet you are an american. You read books to solidify your world view.
What are your favorite whimsical fantasy?
>>8244201
Scifi books with human modification like Altered Carbon, Bv Larson and Neal Asher.
Fantasy.. uh Black Jewels Trilogy, Coldfire Trilogy, The Witcher and Sanderson?
https://www.amazon.com/Summer-Dragon-Evertide-Todd-Lockwood-ebook/dp/B013Q70C1A/
Do you think these are paid reviews or legit? I can never tell the difference. It has almost only 5 star reviews.
>>8244529
I don't know but why has this book been out a year and how are there no paperback editions and why is it still full price?
>>8244571
Why do you think that? It came out in May this year according to goodreads.
And I think there's only one version because the book has around 20 highly detailed illustrations.
>>8244490
It's absolutely true, they can't write characters or dialogue, everyone sounds the same and is cringeworthy while alongside it they have nothing to say.
>>8243240
He's probably American, senpai.
