Animeedition.
What's /sffg/'s favourite tragedy of all time?
Snowcrashed.
>>8092089
R E C O M M E N D A T I O N S
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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First for Brent Weeks, Brandon Sanderson and Patrick Rothfuss
>>8096952
Sanderson is unironically the only good one here (only SA though)
Repping the Dinosaur Clan
Is the farseer readable or is it YA trash
>>8096957
I do not recommend it, had to stop after the first one.
Nothing happens: the book.
>>8096947
Favorite tragedy in SFF would be the story of Turin and Nienor. I felt all the feels. All of them.
>>8096957
It's good for what it is.
>>8096957
I thought the first book was a strong 9/10.
Then Hobb shit the bed with book two. fucking 700+ pages of L I T E R A L L Y N O T H I N G
Autistic whining, cringeworthy romance, literally letting Regal win lmao. The ending did redeem it a little bit but it didn't save it from being a 5/10.
I'll still probably read the final novel in the trilogy just because I'm this deep already but do it only if you have a high tolerance for WoT tier nothing.
Like the entire fucking story could've been told in 400 pages.
>>8097032
>implying anything happens in book 1
I honestly doubt it can get much worse than it. Doesn't the series get dragons later? At least a bit more interesting.
>>8096947
I don't know if they're technically tragedies, but I really like the Witcher short stories "A Shard of Ice" and "The Lesser Evil".
>>8097043
We did, there was a dozen of titles, fuck off and reported.
>>8096947
I need literary cyberpunk.
Help a brother out, мoи дpyзья
>>8096947
YOU FUCKING FAME HUNHERING CUNTS ARE RUSHING TO BE THE FIRST TO HAVE "YOUR" GENERAL UP YET YOU FORGET THE RECOMMENDATION CHARTS EVERY SINGLE TIME
Recommend me a comfy science fiction novel, can be golden age, new or whatever, the most important thing is a sense of place and atmosphere.
>>8097233
"Anathem" by Neal Stephenson.
>>8097257
is this meme book actually good
>900 pages
>>8097262
Best SF novel of the last 10 years.
>>8096954
Doesn't Cosmere-kun say the new Mistborn books are better than Stormlight? I haven't read them yet.
>>8097264
is that high praise? what other decent scifi came out in the last 10 years
only blindsight comes to mind, but if it's better than that I guess it gotta be good
>>8097274
I would rank it higher than Blindsight, although I enjoyed that one too.
>tfw nothing to read
>>8097286
Literally impossible.
>>8096717
Honestly I've only read The Thing Itself so my recommendations of Roberts are somewhat exaggerated. But plenty of folks at my sci-fi society love him so I followed suit. I'll put Salt on my to-read list.
>>8097286
>what is goodreads
Do none of your friends read sff? I'm contantly recommending and being recommended stuff.
>>8097310
>friends
I want normies to leave.
>>8097310
>friends
Why would you assume I have any?
>>8097310
>friends
Fuck the guy who recommended Red Rising and saying it wasn't YA. Had to quit within the first 5 pages, the writing was way too fucking cringey and edgy with no substance at all.
>>8097326
>Skype
>tf2
NORMIE GET OUT OF MY GENERAL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>8097326
>it's not that hard
>>8097326
>Jesus it's not that hard
I'd rather have /pol/ here than turbo normalfags
>>8097329
>I like /sff/ so therefore play exclusively paradox strategy games and other autismo shit
At least I didn't say Overwatch
Although I am enjoying Stellaris
>>8097345
>video games
Get out manchild.
>>8097345
>I am enjoying Stellaris
I'm a casual pleb myself but can still see how fucking incomplete the game is.
Pic related is how Paradox will fix the game desu
>>8097356
>hand written
Kek what a pleb, I only listen to the tales of the elders.
>>8097358
Topical.
>>8097310
>Goodreads
>>8097373
I know right. Some faggot yesterday was saying The Iron Dragon's Daughter was bad because the reviews on Goodreads say it's bad. As a Swanwickfag, I felt triggered.
>>8096952
Sanderson is unironically the only one here (although that AS)
>>8096957
I do not recommend it, it stops after the first one.
Nothing happened: the book.
>>8096957
I think the first one is a strong 9/10.
Then shit Hobb's bed and two books. fucking 700+ page N I T A R Y Y Y N O T H I N G
Autistic critics, romance cringeworthy, really put lmao glorious victory. The decision to redeem a little bit but it did not save it from being a 5/10.
I read probably still account written after the trilogy that I have this deep would you do if you have a high tolerance for something you do not know Tier.
As I can tell the story fucking all 400 pages.
>>8097032
>in relation to anything that happens in the book 1
I sincerely doubt you can find a lot of worse than. You have dragons later in the series? At least a little bit more interesting.
>>8097264
lies
>>8096947
I do not know if they are technically an accident, but I like the short story The Witcher "A Shard of Ice" and "Poor Little".
>>8097264
The credit level? What other popular sci FI up to 10 years
Only blindsight comes to mind, but if more than I guess it gotta be good
>>097313
I really would not read some of my favorite books unless I told about them by stakeholders.
E.g. I did not think I'd like Will Serve Women News but I believe you read it and really liked it.
>>8097373
I know right. Some fagot yesterday that the worst Daughter Iron Dragon for consideration Goodreads say bad. A Swanwickfag, I felt the start.
Should I bother reading the Dune sequels?
>>8097453
It depends. What did you like about the first one?
In my opinion they are excellent up until book 4, then 5 and a 6 are a bit wonly but still more than readable.
Avoid the books by Brian Herbert like the black plague though.
>>8097233
Well my years on 4chan has made me a sick fuck, so my levels of "comfy" may differ, but Red Rising was comfy as fuck for me. All the rapes and gore gave me a constant erect companion throughout the read.
>>8097459
I really enjoyed the sections involving the houses and greater empire, the first chapter for example and the stuff involving the emperor. Is there more of this jazz or does it mainly stay on Arrakas?
>>8097477
>Is there more of this jazz or does it mainly stay on Arrakas?
It kind of stays on Arrakis. Although book 4 has plenty of politics discussion, and book 5 and 6 are largely sey on another planet (I will not tell you which because spoilers)
>>8097319
I told you that you have to read past the fucking heart thumping/divergent /hunger games shit. The book really starts after he dies.
What are you doing on the fucking literature board if you can't read and follow literal instructions???
Ok guys we seem to have a bot, report it's post and select illegal instead of rules. Phishing is illegal right?
>>8096947
The tragedy of Muad'Dib.
>>8097453
Yes but not beyond the fourth book.
>>8097512
Just some manchild sperging out on Google Translate. He was doing it in the last thread too.
>>8097268
roshar > scadrial
>reading sanderson for anything but worldbuilding
but just in case
honor > sazed
stormlight waifus > mistborn waifus
fight me
>>8097351
I really like being able to Genocide entire species and commit warcrimes. It adds a lot of flavor to what would otherwise be a fairly sterile game.
>>8097584
Steris > all women in SA
>>8097584
I read Sanderson for the worldbuilding and the anime fights.
Also Shallan is shit.
>le quirky quipmaster
>cucks Kaladin for Chadolin
>>8097512
It's not phishing, just stupid. You can report it as against the rules if you want.
>>8097591
steris is qt but leagues below jasnah
I mean autist who asks prostitutes about their work since she's too shy is cute
but competent autist who devotes her life to saving the world because nobody else will and works herself half to death in the process is the absolute best
>>8097618
Shallan just needs to grow up and stop thinking she's a YA protagonist. she tries way too hard with her quips and acts thirsty but that's the kind of character she is.if sanderson doesn't have one of her truths acknowledge herclearly being bi I willjust be kind of saddened I guess. Mormons.
Which sci-fi books deal with aliens with the emphasis on the 'alien' part? In an eerie, otherworldly, estranged sense of the word?
>>8097983
Stanisław Lem did that.
>>8097983
Blindsight
>>8098021
Fiasco? That's on my reading list. Anything else? I did read Watts who is decent in descriptions but bad in plotting and dialogue.
I also plan on reading Ender's Game sequel.
You're in the bookstore with your sff waifu and these guys slap her ass and she giggles.
What. Do. You. Do?
>>8098031
Seconding
Blindsights aliens are very unique and different.
It also it is a very decent book.
>>8097983
Roadside Picnic by the Strugatskys, The film is supposed to be good.
>>8096947
>What's /sffg/'s favourite tragedy of all time?
Arthur and Lancelot as told by TH White.
>>8098062
>supposed
It's outstanding. Even the video game is good.
what are some things to avoid in fantasy? storywise, writingwise, anything that should not be done
>>8097319
>cringey edgy writing can't ever have substance
It's like you've never read Animorphs.
>>8098076
Feminism
>>8098076
Ancient evil awakens
Constant characterization through emphasis on grimaces
makes character look like chipmunks
Read Rothfuss to see how not to write anything.
>>8098076
Don't describe food (unless it is unique to your world), fucking, pissing, or shitting.
>>8098076
>Copying LotR without knowing why it's beloved
>Using fantasy tropes to tell a normal story
>Tweaking fantasy tropes a little and acting like you're hot stuff for making Morgan le Fay the protagonist or whatever
>Completely altering fantasy tropes while forgetting to write a good story
>Writing a callow youth without an understanding of callowness and youthfulness
>Writing a villain without understanding villainy
>Writing a wise old guy without knowing what wisdom is
>Writing a love story when all you can write is awkward sex scenes
>Putting the label "fantasy" on a work with 0 sense of wonder
>Getting so caught up in show don't tell that you don't ever tell anything
>Writing fantasy at all ever in any circumstances when your roots don't go earlier than 1977
>>8098102
>Don't describe food (unless it is unique to your world), fucking, pissing, or shitting.
But muh artistic nudity! If you write sex scenes as detailed as fighting ones you're breaking the mold and being edgu even though every writer is doing this and no fantasy reader bats an eye.
>>8098076
Gay, Rape, and Incest
>>8098123
Those are the thing that have to be included in the book, not excluded
>>8098124
>I've never read a late 80s girl power don't need no man fantasy novel or Tamora Pierce
You are a man to be envied.
>>8098124
>Women can't write anon? Is that you?
I doubt I am the only one who thinks that women can't write
>>8098076
Heterosexuality, Consensual sex, and non-consanguinous unions.
>>8098099
>Read Rothfuss to see how not to write anything.
But he doesn't write too bad, and his books are really good, hated here for some weird reason, guess they hate Auri
>>8098076
>99% of the people the protagonist cares about are killed off in the beginning of the book for writing convenience
Can I write a dead wizard who preserves his consciousness in a book without it seeming like a Tom Riddle/Grisamentum ripoff?
>>8098076
Shoehorned social commentary, especially when it's promoting middle school-tier liberalism.
>>8098115
I honestly can't believe he's managed to get to the point where he can just sit on his fat ass and blog all day, just by writing a single mediocre fantasy novel where the protagonist dies at the end.
Got about halfway through this and had to quit. Felt like a really bad parody of modern fantasy/"progressive fantasy" ("Oh Prince Kasselon, your skin is so hot!" said Duke Norwitch as he caressed the prince's face) but I think the author was being entirely serious.
>>8098155
Depends on whether he wants to make money or write a good book. Leftists love getting there opinions repeated back at them.
>>8098173
It wasn't that bad, beyond the over reliance on strong independent womyn characters
I want to write a fantasy sheries that combines mistborn, stormlight and lightbringer
How can do do I do that?
>>8098185
Enjoy being taken to court for plagiarism
>>8097233
The Martian Chronicles mothafucka.
Comfy as all hell.
Seriously though, it's a very beautiful book.
>>8098194
Terry Brooks is still making money on Sword of Shanaynay. And the Tolkien estate is savage about copyright infringement.
>>8098076
Don't fucking plan a trilogy or whatever, just focus on writing one good book. If it's too long when you're finished you can split it up but write the damn thing first.
>>8097473
those parts were supposed to horrify the reader, gorydamn madman you are
>>8098184
No it felt like they just wrote a generic bad grimdark fantasy novel and then just swapped the genders.
>>8098124
What if i make my Dark Lord evil because he read too much stories, and wants to be an antagonist who avoids or remarks cliches?
>>8098387
>those parts were supposed to horrify the reader
Not him but I am in the same boat, 4chan has completely desensitized me to any kind of gore, it is just comedy for me now so I can't really understand how it could horrify anyone except a young kid child who is young maybe
>>8097233
The fourth chapter of foundation, the first section, when the trader is in his ship. That's the comfiest shit I've read.
Also metro 2033 has lots of comfy. But it's an aquired taste
>>8098523
>Metro 2033
Fuck yes, one of the best books i've read. Ending was abrupt, tho.
>>8098576
It was too abrupt. And 2034 sucked ass
Plus the 2035 translation is going to take forever.
How comfy was the scene the night before Artyom and Daniel are about to head off to the library, and Artyom is reading the weird Soviet-Nazi devil pact bullshit? That was one of my favourite moments.
>>8098590
For a translation it reads very well. I think the book and game go very hand in hand so I expect you'll enjoy the book. It's got enough extra titbits to keep it fresh.
>>8098600
>I think the book and game go very hand in hand so I expect you'll enjoy the book
Well I'll give it a try, though I have no clue what the story is about or what happens, I was just shooting shit
>>8098607
Heh, well then maybe the book can fill you in. Glukovsky writes very "Russian" characters so expect that, and if you don't buy a copy with a Moscow Metro map at the front, you're missing out.
>>8098607
>>8098637
You can also hear the audiobook if you don't have a problem with it. Rupert Degas's accent goes great with the narration and the voices for the characters make it seem like different narrators at once; but you're missing on the map.
I'm also not sure how could you miss the story, since it's a story-heavy game.
>>8098062
That book is fucking fantastic.
>>8098144
>But he doesn't write too bad
He does. It's complete self insert fedora tipping garbage.
>and his books are really good
Pounded in the butt series is superior to it
>hated here for some weird reason, guess they hate Auri
"Some reason" is very specific and often talked about.
>>8097983
Jesus that girl on the left is fugly, I don't even care if she a model.
I would rather fuck humpback Maisie than that fuck face shit.
Finally read House on the Borderland, and while I understand that the state of literature was very different >100 years ago, it felt a bit... incomplete. Do his other books help round it out?
>>8098944
Wells' The Time Machine feels similarly incomplete. Read Stapledon's Starmaker, perhaps Clarke's 2001, for stories with a similar cosmic scale.
>>8098994
I read 2001 out of those, at least. With that, while it didn't explicitly answer things, it gave you enough that you could interpret and imply very well. Borderland as it is just kind of feels like creepypasta where when one thing stopped being spooky, he introduced a new thing and dropped the old with no explanation for either. Like it almost seemed that he was trying to imply that the man was just going insane at one point, but before that went anywhere, the sister was just kind of forgotten about so I ended up forgetting about that angle until the last chapter of the "manuscript."
Granted, it was a super fun ride, but I just feel a bit blue balled.
>>8099007
Haha, his The Night Land is actually overdone in its second half (it devolves into a generic love adventure story); though, the first half is a fairly harrowing exploration of a cold, dead planet. It's ~700 pages, and personally I think it should have been only a fraction of that. But for what it does, it does better than, say, Lovecraft's Dream Quest. I recommend giving the first 5 chapters at least a try.
>>8099007
Oh, no, it was certainly incomplete. Hodgson had a big problem with that one, if I recall correctly.
JCW's Night Land stories try to tie it in with House on the Borderlands, actually, and you ought to be reading those if you read Night Land.
>>8099060
Also, The Night Land is similarly episodic with no truly deep meaning. If you want something with fine existential under text, try Lem's Eden.
Am I meming too many books? Tell me if you're getting something out of this.
>>8099073
>Tell me if you're getting something out of this.
I am. Lem's actually my favorite author.Ironically, Dick is my second favoriteIt's not so much the existential undertext that I feel was missing from Borderland, it just kind of felt like it was missing something to pull it all together.
Like 2001 has the aliens trying to foster intelligence. Lovecraft has the inscrutable aliens whose utter lack of point and concern for humans IS the point. Even King uses most of his stories as a metaphor for an adult's fear. But Borderland just has... nothing, really. It was an enjoyable way to kill a few hours but I didn't really get anything out of it. Again, like reading creepypasta on the internet. Toss up those chapters once a month or week on /x/ and it would have fit right in. Which is both good and bad in its way.
>>8099109
Didn't you pick up on the theme of grief being a prison? And how he goes on a cosmic journey to see his dead wife again, but gets sucked back to the metaphor of a lonely old house in the wilderness constantly being assaulted by the forces of depression, until he can't take it any more and is writing in his diary right up to the moment of his death? That was a suicide note.
Are there Sci-fi books that do diary entries or the epistolary format well?
I had tried The Martian and while I had finished the book, the perspective shifts to Watney later in the book were distracting to my brain.
>>8099150
In Flowers for Algernon it was essential. Bit sentimental but that's what you get. I recall a novella collection with epistolary stories in one section, it had Algernon and this one about solitude and loneliness with a guy solo-manning an FTL station outside Pluto's orbit, and a couple others I can't remember.
I could show you the exact spot in the El Dorado KS library it used to be at, but I couldn't tell you the name.
>>8098062
I barely cared about the book past the first couple chapters, but the movie and vidya are fuckin great
>>8099513
>tfw we haven't received news on the HBO series in forever
>>8099419
the movie is supposed to be good because it's an artsy pos made by tarkovsky, it has nothing to do with the chewing gumish stalker vidya games
hey /sffg/, what translation of the Arabian Nights should I use?
I want one that has beautiful descriptions but uses a modern enough linguistics that any idiot can understand what's going on
>>8099532
I think it's a blessing, there's no way they could do the source material justice. The radio drama adaptation was pretty good but when it comes to a visual medium you need things happening on the screen. I wonder how they're going to dumb it down to fit the format.
>>8099616
>mfw i bought the radio drama in book version because i thought it was the regular trilogy and the purple hard-cover one was out of stock
That being said, they can just make the 2nd Foundation scenes in a blank room showing the back of the psychologists's heads; or something akin to the post-credits scenes in MGS games, with the logo on-screen and a voice in the background.
Then again, i haven't read the robots and the empire trilogies yet, so i don't know if there're more scenes of that kind.
>>8096957
I liked the first two, it's decent character-heavy fantasy and a cozy read, but holy shit the third book drops the balls halfway through and employs deus ex machina to a disgusting level
>>8098153
No, been done too many times. I even think there is an anime about it.
Write urban fantasy and have the wizard store his consciousness in some sort of tech that would be ok without batterys instead.
Techno-alchemist
>>8099929
>evil warlock stores his consciousness in the US electrical grid
>only way to kill him for good is EMP
Help me out here /lit/. I tried reading this and I eventually set it down because I wasn't enjoying it. I'm a fan of cosmic horror and all that but I reached a point where I had gotten tired of how dreary and miserable the characters, tone, prose, and setting are. I can take grim books but I don't like it when it doesn't feel like there's a point to any of the gloom. Am I missing something?
>>8099956
The author's point is that there is no point. The book's conclusion is that self-awareness was a mutation that only lasted as long as it has by accident and that the idea of life having meaning is not only an illusion but ultimately a selective disadvantage.
I wholly disagree, but I enjoyed the atmosphere enough to read it twice. Maybe I would like spooky movies too.
>>8099966
>self-awareness was a mutation that only lasted as long as it has by accident
Well, that sounds God fucking awful Peter.
>>8099976
The aliens are really interesting, though.
>>8100000
checked
ayy lmao
>>8100001
rolling for palindrome
>>8100000
>shit son checkin then superior numerics
>>8100009
like this?
>>8100018
BLOOOLB
Yeah but they were really great aliens. Born with all the energy they'll use in a lifetime, non-genetic life, completely expendable. Based on brittle stars, right?
>>8099929
>anime
I should have known. Guess the logistics of it can be retooled, important thing is just "a long-dead, semi-legendary mage shows back up again having cheated death".
>>8099956
>I can take grim books but I don't like it when it doesn't feel like there's a point to any of the gloom.
That's the point.
>>8099150
Book of the Short Sun
>>8098173
Why does all the homo fantasy have to be written by hacks
>Survives polio
>Fights in Korea
>Tireless industrial engineer and industrial journal editor
>Helps design the Pringles machine
>Double bypass surgery
>Cataract surgery
>Beloved wife gets Alzheimer's and dies
>Soldiers on writing literary SFF that makes other authors cry because they'll never be that good
I wish Gene Wolfe was my grandpa.
>>8100227
>>Survives polio
>>Double bypass surgery
>>Cataract surgery
>>Beloved wife gets Alzheimer's and dies
>I wish Gene Wolfe was my grandpa.
i didn't get it why you want an ill grandfather and a dead grandmother
>>8100230
>being a tripfag
I wish you were dead instead.
>>8097426
What happened here?
>>8098508
He said the sequel, Speaker For The Dead, which is a little alien. More like an anthropological allegory though.
>>8099513
I fucking love Foundation. I just read it twice back to back and I've decided it's my fav sff book so far.
It just all works so well.
>>8099532
>tfw a Syfy miniseries based on Ringworld went down the tubes.
Which is fine with me, Syfy channel is utter shit with it's originally produced stuff.
Still... I would love to see the massive Ringworld translated to the big screen. If you could ever find someone who could do the material justice (which is a rarity with this sort of thing).
Who will play Durzo Blint in his inevitable biopic?
>>8100221
Because only hacks use political agenda as a replacement for talent.
>>8097310
1. People don't read. Not even the highly educated.
2. I don't want people knowing how much I read because it paints to clear a picture of what I all of spend my time on.
I have no idea how you've managed to befriend a bunch of people who read scifi without going out of your way to find a book club.
>Mistborn Shadows of Self release date July 18
>GraphicAudio
:(
>>8100512
>without going out of your way to find a book club
Man, that's exactly what I did. I joined the sci-fi society at college, trawled through the film and vidya fans until I found 4 guys who actually read sci-fi, and just chilled with them. One of them is currently my flatmate and I still meet up the other 2 every month or two.
What's the shame in finding a book club?
>>8100512
Dude seems to be talking about online "friends" rather than people he knows.
>>8100527
I'm talking about both. Tbh my irl friends aren't really into /sff/ anymore as much as I am but they're still my guys
>Supposedly, there are people in this world who have friends
You can only make me suspend my disbelief for so long
Are CS lewis's fantasy books still worth reading?
>>8100557
I enjoyed the rape, gay and incest in Narnia series.
>>8100557
The Great Divorce was interesting, but not great.
>>8100572
considering that the lion in "the magician's nephew" moved a woman between dimensions without asking her permission (and she never returned back to the earth), does it mean that he raped her?
>“Would you like to live here always?”
>“Well you see sir, I’m a married man,” said the Cabby. “If my wife was here neither of us would ever want to go back to London, I reckon. We’re both country folks really.”
>Aslan threw up his shaggy head, opened his mouth, and uttered a long, single note; not very loud, but full of power. Polly’s heart jumped in her body when she heard it. She felt sure that it was a call, and that anyone who heard that call would want to obey it and (what’s more) would be able to obey it, however many worlds and ages lay between. And so, though she was filled with wonder, she was not really astonished or shocked when all of a sudden a young woman, with a kind, honest face stepped out of nowhere and stood beside her. Polly knew at once that it was the Cabby’s wife, fetched out of our world not by any tiresome magic rings, but quickly, simply and sweetly as a bird flies to its nest.
see, nobody even bothered to ask the woman
>>8100581
>see, nobody even bothered to ask the woman
Just as God intended it.
>>8100581
She came because she was called and wanted to answer the call, although obviously the call was one she would be incapable of not wanting to answer. It's more like some sort of brainwashing than simply teleporting her against her will.
>>8100557
Yup.
>>8100273
This is a good point. Speaker for the Dead never reaches the intensity of the original Ender's Game, but Ender's Game is a binary treatment of alien invasion, whereas Speaker is more nuanced and reflective, as it grants a mature Ender auxiliary redemption for being manipulated in the first novel.
>>8100227
T-Rex-sama, is the Pringles moustache a throw back to Gene Aaawwooooo?
>>8100754
number of those books you've read: 0
>>8100486
Somebody who doesn't mind getting naked. I want to see him plow his whore gf right after she cucked him.
I also want to see him watching from the shadows as Kayle's friend gets his boipussy rammed mercilessly and turns a fagget.
>>8100761
GAY, RAPE, INCEST
>>8100769
>it's okay, when I wear a dress I'm a girl
>*wears girls tights and girl's tank top*, w-what are you doing, I'm a boy
>>8100769
Gay incestuous rape
>Implying Gavin didn't rape the fuck out of Dazen
>>8100821
Breeks is shit though
>>8100587
>Just as God intended it.
>Le virgin birth was rape lolz XDDDDD
It's widely agreed that Mary was announced by the angel Gabriel that she was going to give birth to Christ and she seemed okay with it.
Now post your shit jokes on r/atheism because that's the only place where you're going to get upvotes for the,
>>8100581
She didn't need to be asked, open your mind a bit.
>>8100472
Speaking of SyFy, how was the Childhood's End series?
>>8100821
Durzo is Night Angel, not Lightbringer.
>>8100891
I made a general remark about one of the same series sorry
>>8100877
I didn't read the book, but I liked it. It's good popcorn entertainment.
Leviathan Wakes is also not bad.
NEVER FORGET
>>8100997
This chart doesn't have any books I like therefore I approve of this chart.
>>8100997
better version
>>8100997
Thanks, i'll do the exact opposite.
Any good star trek novels worth reading?
>start following William Gibson's twitter because I remember him as the guy that wrote that one book
>mfw I don't have a face
I mean, it's not like with Neil Gaiman where you can clearly see he is playing his audience, this guy got a lot dumber and it wasn't that profound to begin with.
What other classic writers had later on in their lives outed themselves as people that don't follow logic and reason? I want to know so I don't read their newer stuff.
>>8101115
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>>8101133
2/10
>>8101115
well that is an interesting phenomenon
Are there any fantasy novels with both very explicit rape in them but that are also well written and not grimdark to the point where they become silly?
>>8101071
Any particular Trek series, or are you open to anything?
>>8101270
Anything.
The more it detracts from Roddenberry's absurd ideals, the better.
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>>8101277
Crossover's pretty good, it's got the TNG crew rescuing Ambassador Spock from Romulus with some interesting political stuff.
The Captain's Daughter has Sulu on his own ship finally
Federation was one of the first Kirk/Picard ones, and established some interesting stuff about Zefram Cochrane and the invention of warp drive
Generally the ones written by supporting actors are solid - A Stitch in Time by Andrew Robinson, The 34th Rule by Armin Shimerman, I, Q by John De Lancie. The exception being the Shatner series, which are basically Captain Kirk fanfic.
>>8101261
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>>8101261
B A K K E R
>tfw no skin spy trapfu
You guys should read this.
>>8101423
I heard it's the Tom Clancy of China so I don't think I will try it.
>>8101261
>that dog
>the fuck am i looking at.jpg
>>8101423
Where can I get a download for a Death's End epub?
>>8101286
Well, at least it has most of the known books.
>Foundation
>read if you're studying history
>not psychology or sociology
>>8101423
>tfw China bans time travel in literature
>There's a government out there that has made literature marginally better for everybody
>>8101423
I would if I could.
Death's end when?????
last two books were pretty great.
>>8101553
I thought it was alt history they banned?
Who should I try first - Ramsey Campbell, Caitlin Kiernan, or Laird Barron?
>>8101123
I'm going to assume you're triggered because he isn't a right winger or something like that.
>>8101586
http://techland.time.com/2011/04/13/china-decides-to-ban-time-travel/
Probably a daft question but is there a term for a genre involving 'hard' (may not be the right term) science fiction set in space? Something realistic/'gritty'/grounded yet set in outer space, no magic or anything like that? Or something like Starship Troopers, that kind of setting.
Got a couple of free tokens on Audible and am looking for something to spend them on, it's either the above genre or getting more military memoirs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-45NTlgp-o
That's a good example of the kind of setting I mean.
>>8101651
Hard SF space opera. I don't believe Starship Troopers is hard SF and most SF doesn't involve magic.
>>8101651
Man, literally almost every Scifi novel is set in fucking space. Is this a real question?
I wish there was a term for non-space scifi.
>>8101657
ST is closer to 1984 than it is to anything Asimov sf wise
>>8101642
Well that's just sil-
>look at the side
>old people having sex is a new porn niche in japan
Goddammit, Asia. They say that you should know better for being older, but you're just going to random extremes.
>>8101667
So these threads are full of nothing but 16 year olds.
>>8101658
It might be because I'm looking at audiobooks rather than books themselves, but the majority of the sci-fi I'm seeing definitely isn't space related, at least not to the extent I'm interested in (fictional memoirs from a space smuggler, or shock trooper deployed to put down a mars revolt, stuff like that would be amazing but not sure if it even exists.)
Heinlein's got some great stuff, but I've read plenty of his and am after something similar but more modern.
>>8101675
You think he had a large focus on realistic technology and science and didn't use it mostly to give us his (in this case shitty) opinion?
>>8101677
That's because you're looking at shit.
Arthur C. Clarke, Larry Niven, Isaac Asimov, E. E. 'Doc' Smith, A. E. van Vogt, Stephen Baxter, Stanislaw Lem, do none of these ring a bell with you? There's a fucktonne of what you're talking about out there. Stop looking at the modern author shite.
>>8101713
>you've probably never heard of these obscure writers like Arthur C. Clarke, have you? heheh, nothing personell kid
Fuck off.
>>8101658
Someone should make a soft SciFi chart about stuff that's not set in space, that'd be cool.
how is the second book?
>>8101677
You might like C. J. Cherryh's Merchanter novels, or even the Chanur books. I can't vouch for how well her heavy use of internal monologue translates to audiobook.
>>8101764
Real good. Much broader in scope than Three Body. One of the protagonists is a waifu-obsessed wiener for the first 150 pages but after that it really picks up.
>>8101764
Better. At least in my opinion.
How far into Dune does stuff start happening, I heard it's kind of slow. Is the pay off worth it?
>>8100527
I know a bunch of people that read SFF. Some of them are family, some of them are old college friends, a bunch of them I see at church.I'm Mormon.
>>8101596
Oh, no, Gibson's not stupid because he's left wing, he's just stupid in general. He never knew what he was talking about. Neuromancer was a lucky strike.
>>8101903
What has he actually done/said?
>>8101813
But your church is basically wacky sf, of course you know people who read sf
Could someone explain to me why Guards! Guards! is always the recommended Discworld novel? I've bought each Discworld up to it, did I fuck up?
>>8101796
Very much so. It really slows down during the desert stuff but the ending is intense. Depends how much you enjoy pseudo-space-Muslims and long complicated words.
>>8102033
Probably just because it introduces the City Watch and they're the characters he did the most with.
>>8102033
The City Watch sequence is popular, and Guards! Guards! is the first one.
>>8102065
The first couple are pretty shit. Most people don't read Discworld in order
>>8102077
>Most people don't read Discworld in order
Someone post the reading guide.
>>8102086
Lads I've just finished The Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy series and (most of) Discworld, can you recommend me some more good Sci-Fi Fant Comedy please?
Preferably British, but anything so long as it's funny.
>>8102077
So I did fuck up? Nvm, I'll still give em a go I might like em.
