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Thoughts?
>>7663466
>no good books
Accurate
>>7663467
their easily in the top 50 books of all time
>>7663469
Maybe if you're an easily impressionable 19 year old who takes /lit/ memes seriously
All of those books are garbage
>>7663469
3 of them are, 1 is just barley arguable but not really, 4 aren't even close
>>7663469
You know we just joke around. Right? We don't read this crap. All we read is Ready Player One and the Martian. If you really like these books you are either 190 or fell for the epic memes. Which is it?
>>7663482
nope i've always maintained this view.
mccarthy and wallace are hacks. heller is talentless and boistered by subject matter. gr i'm ambivalent on. lolita is good but it's not even nabokov's top 3.
>No Republic
Zeus!
>>7663489
fortunately my endless proselytizing of this view seems to have become more mainstream on /lit/. maybe people have finally pulled the wool from their eyes over the drivel that is st wallace and such.
in case it wasnt abundantly clear, ulysses, brother k, and whale book are legitimately great.
>>7663493
Calm down 15 year old
>>7663489
This. Good books - sure. Best of all time - no.
>>7663466
lolita needs to go.
>>7663466
>The Tunnel isn't on there
Shit
Great Literature
Infinite Jest
Ulysses
Gravity's Rainbow
Moby Dick
Babby Shit for Plebs
Brother's Karamazov
Lolita
Catch-22
Blood Meridian
>>7663513
wew lad
>>7663466
Catch-22 is not /lit/core and never has been. It should be replaced with The Book of Disquiet or 2666
>>7663516
This guy has been shilling his new /lit/ core for a while for some unknown reason. Everyone has dismissed it.
>>7663466
pretending that this isn't a bait and ignoring the shit-flinging that has already happened in this thread, I don't know why catch-22 is on here. I'm not even criticizing it because I haven't read it, but I hardly ever see it mentioned here.
>>7663513
>babby shit
>Broz K
>considered one of the greatest works of literature ever
huh wow
>>7663524
it started getting mentioned a lot more with the influx of r/books
>>7663528
>5000 pages of 'Boo Hoo no God to stop me being cucked by life'
>Great Literature.
>>7663533
have you considered going back to r/books
>>7663524
its ranked in the top 10 bro
>>7663541
>he's only read 15 of the top 100
>these are the people you're discussing literature with
l e l
>>7663543
i just started reading literature on my own last fall. please stop bullying me
>>7663516
C22 should be gone, Stoner goes in its place
>>7663546
>not starting with the greeks
>>7663551
kill yourself
>>7663539
Never been, you'd fit in there though.
>>7663558
embarrassing
>>7663466
>catch 22
>no Greeks
into the crash
>>7663541
i'm surprised by that, it must be a quiet favourite among people here.
Does hurt me that #1 is IJ. Again, I don't think it's bad, but any system in which that is above Don Quixote, Ulysses, Moby-Dick, the Bible etc. can't be right
>>7663466
>translations
>>7663559
>Says the guy who champions lexistentialism.
I doubt you've even read it, reddit.
>>7663562
>above
how many times do you need to be reminded that this is about popularity and not a quality assessment
I'm not surprised that IJ speaks to more of you faggots than Ulysses, and that has nothing to do with how poorly written it is nor with how aware of it the fans are
>>7663570
>mocks Reddit top 10 for having books they like but do not consider the greatest
>does the same thing
>>7663575
what we enjoy is also what we consider the best
>>7663577
Pleb perspective
>>7663570
>about popularity and not a quality assessment
Why would I not be displeased that IJ is the most popular? I know it probably is the most popular here but that doesn't mean i have to be happy about it
>>7663590
i think i speak for /lit/ as a whole that our favorite books to read of all time just happen to be the best as well.
>>7663594
I think I speak for /lit/ as a whole when I say that although this post is accurate in its content, nobody can pretend to speak on behalf of all of /lit/.
I don't think any of them are bad, but there are huge discrepancies in quality between them.
Low tier: IJ, Gravity, Blood Meridian
Mid tier: Catch 22, Lolita
High tier: Ulysses, Brothers K, Moby Dick
>>7665153
>new is bad. old is good.
>>7663528
>I can't think for myself
>>7663466
Get rid of Blood Memeridian and it's ok.
Updated
>>7663466
While I will not say these arent great books, if you are actually reading at any sort of clip, you will view them with less importance 4-5 years and 300-500 books later.
The continuing popularity of these books only shows that /lit/ doesnt read, or that those that do read may be roped into a group think that threatens to censure those that show originality and ability to think outside the box.
I wish DFW never killed himself not because I value his work or his person, but because he wouldn't have become a meme otherwise and nobody would give a flying fuck about him.
>Lolita
>Catch-22
Kill yourself.
>>7665647
People say this all they time yet never post any better books
Why is /lit/ synonymous with abstinence?
Oh wait, I know...
>>7665669
He was already a meme when he was alive so you're retarded.
>>7665521
Accurate. There are almost as many John Green hate threads as threads with actual discussion.
>>7665521
why is john green on here? TFIOS isnt even talked about on lit
>>7665698
It's literally all one guy spamming those every time though.
>>7665521
You forgot
WOMEN&MEN
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Already been done
>>7665836
The thing that makes me most angry about this image is "Selections"
>Selections
>>7663476
My guess is you think,
are: Ulysses, Brothers, Moby
almost: Pedo
lol: 22, gr, blood, ij
>>7663466
karamazov, ulysses and moby dick are the only good ones
>>7663469
They're you illiterate fuck go back to your crayons
>>7663466
Read only IJ and GR from that list, which I absolutely loved.
I started Blood Meridian but it was boring desu, Moby Dick was too slow, and Ulysses didn't appeal to me at all.
Lolita was okay I guess.
So that leaves Brothers Karamazov and Catch-22.
overall, I'd give that list a 3/10.
>>7666220
>likes ij and gr
>doesn't like moby dick and ulysses
modern /lit/ everyone
>>7663466
>Ulysseys
>Moby Dick
>TBK
>Lolita
They're all brilliant, but they're not so much /lit/core as they are 'everybody who seriously reads-core.' They're all brilliant and all defensible on any "best books" list, but /lit/core should be for literature that is exalted on /lit/ but underappreciated elsewhere. Catch-22 can possibly be cut as well because of how much of a mainstream phenomenon it is.
Suggestions
>Stoner
>Book of the New Sun
>Maldoror
>A Confederacy of Dunces
all more or less part of the literary establishment, but nowhere near as culturally ubiquitous in mainstream consciousness.
>>7666232
>modern /lit/ everyone
Cam down the hysterics. Every board has a contingency of younger posters. He's clearly only just starting to get into serious reading.
>>7666276
for probably 1 - 2 years AT LEAST now, more people on this board have read ij than ulysses
it's pretty pathetic desu senpai
>>7666289
Posters come and go in waves. Older well-read posters get over all the drama and are happy to lurk more in the background as the newer posters keep asking the same questions and exploring the same entry lit that all the last set of newer posters did. Which is no fault of theirs, of course - they are new.
>>7663541
This list is embarrassing. It looks like it came from r/books.
>>7666305
it's embarrassing but it's not that r/books. there's some overlap insofar as it's generally good literature but r/books would be much heavier into sci fi/fantasy/nonfic
this book is embarrassing cause this board purports to be about literature but refuses to actually read the actual literary canon with any semblance of completeness. it's mostly babby's first meme books.
>>7666317
>babby's first meme books
Thanks. That's how I'd describe it. Chaucer at 100 and Rabelais, Erasmus, Beckett, etc. missing while entry level books and meme books dominate it.
>>7663528
ah yes, the argumentum ad populum. brings back memories of being 15
>>7666331
I read the Canterbury Tales in Middle English many years ago and really disliked it. More time was spent understanding the language and piecing together the archaic syntax rather than the plot and themes. Would you suggest I go back and read them in modern English and read a different one of Chaucer's works?
>>7666249
I think The Cannibal is more underappreciated than those. You won't even find the thing in most stores that stock his books.
Every single corner
Every single thread
I see the title Lolita
Rename /lit/ into /lol/
>>7666305
No, there's literally an actual list from /r/books that was compiled via vote. You can see it here: http://www.listchallenges.com/reddits-top-200-books
Meme all you want, but at the end of the day /lit/ is somehow far more patrician than /r/books.
>>7663466
I have never been more proud of having only read 1 book off of a list.
Seriously i've only read Karamazov, and by this point i've seen so much meme-ing about the others that the only one i'm ever likely to give a read is Moby Dick - or perhaps Catch-22.
>>7667798
Thanks, I will in fact meme all I want now that I have your permission. That does not change the fact that the list is embarrasing.
>>7667798
>that list
>>7666249
So, like, Women and Men or The Tunnel.
>>7665669
I wish he never killed himself so he could do an epic reddit AMA.
>>7667798
>#110
absolute patricians
>>7667798
>http://www.listchallenges.com/reddits-top-200-books
This is because they probably allowed women to vote
>>7667856
i feel sad for you
>>7663489
then tell us some "great books".
>>7668145
>implying we didn't
/lit/ has a fair many females
>inb4 muh sekret club
4chan is mainstream now, deal with it
>>7669146
lapin is cuter than all of them
>>7663474
I think I'm leaving /lit/ because of you.
/lit/ is officially a playground for kids who've never read a book in their life who want to seem cool for hanging out here
>>7668009
Then we could meme pictures of him holding a sign that says "Hi Rebbit." It would be the completion of DFW posting.
>>7668077
Look above it
>The Turner Diaries
>>7669146
Where did you find all these QTs?
>>7663469
>their
>>7669556
Please don't leave. I like you here.
>>7663489
McCarthy is good but I think he appeals to people from the regions he writes about.
>>7666796
one leaves this place a few months and this happens.
why lit, why
>>7665714
It's trash. Get out of here pleb
