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poll edition.

you think trans woman should be allowed to fight in womens MMA?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433407

i'm more inclined to "prohibited" the participation of trans women in Womens MMA as a trans woman and a fan of mma (yes), male puberty simply give a lot of advantages against cis women, just look the body of fallon fox (pic related), pretty much still have a male structure that give her advantage against cis women, sorry girls, but is reality, i think trans women should only fight against other trans women, i'm pretty sure trans men have advantage against us bc their bodies are runing in testosterone.

well that's are my thoughs in the matter, i would like to train in mma gym, but just as a hobby and for the fitness principally, i don't want to fight against anyone.

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>No bullying
>No hugboxing
>No tumblr shit
>No *actions*
>No drama

Previous >>6344882

Let's do our best, girls!
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>>6345910

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433423

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433423

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433423

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433423

http://www.strawpoll.me/10433423
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>>6345874
yeah I was thinking of doing an overwatch character but in can't decide one which one I wanna do ><

i might go with tracer cuz she's the easiest c:

i had fun with my last cosplay for sure
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I bought this
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>>6345916
Are you the blackie from yesterday? I am pretty sure you are. Sorry for being mean yesterday
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>>6345910
It's weird that I know where Fox lives
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>>6345919
cute
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>>6345915
That poll is shit, no CowboyNeal option, you insensitive clod.
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>>6345907
>>6345903
>>6345890

Hey thanks for responding, was always wondering if those anons had any impact on the people here. Nice to know little comes of what they say in that regard at least especially since its a small bulk of the thread.
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>>6345910
>advantage
Post op trans women have lower testosterone than cis women and have greater difficulty building and maintaining muscle.
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does anyone know anything about switching therapist? did you just cancel your appointment and find another in the phone book or something? or do say like, its not working and ask for a referral to someone else?
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can i be tru trans if i like mma and i'm a bislut?
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>>6345931
The fuck is tru trans anyway? i hear people say it
is it like how people use the words 'real nigga' ?
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>>6345929
shut up and put your clit in my butt
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>>6345930
Kit! <3
tbeh I just switched therapists. I called up the new one and made an appointment, and canceled my next appointment with the old one
Didn't tell her I was seeing a new person but I'm sure she knows I'm gone
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>>6345916
Wondering, is this good enough for cosplayers? I was thinking of using amethyst instead of dyed agate and coral instead of red horn, but, well, price... Or do cosplayers use cheap stuff too?
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>>6345912
>I can play his cover of free fallin, slow dancing in a burning room, gravity, and belief
>belief
fuck me.....now.....?
>>6345919
cute
fuck me.....right now.....?
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tell me im a good girl i need it
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>>6345929
Bone structure stays the same, which is an advantage.

Not sure about the muscle part but I am positive that mtf's potential is higher than a cis female. You got any sources against that?
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>>6345923
ty
>>6345910
No. Unless we start discriminating for other natural genitic advantages (eg black people have naturally denser bones). Also this >>6345929
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>>6345929
>what is male skeletal structure
>what is having a big ches with big lungs and a big (not metaphorical) heart that give us better circulation of oxygen.
>what is male skull.

sorry but we have a lot of advantages compared to cis girls, with muscles or without them.
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>>6345919
the shirt or the jeans? either way it looks gud

>>6345921
uhh maybe? idk but thanks for the apology c:
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>>6345916
what about the ice girl? she's supposedly pretty easy too and i see a lot of "build the wall" memes with her
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Why can't I look like this?
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>>6345926
Your mileage may vary, though. Other people may not take shit talking as casually as I do.
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>>6345922
do you know her? she is nice?
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>>6345943
please
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>>6345926
I'm kinda scared about how men objectify me, but also enjoy it
I have a history of being sexually abused/harassed, I'm not saying I'm a victim and that it ruined me, but I wish I could feel safe when hanging out with a guy 1to1 if I know he's just a little attracted to me.
Then again, it makes me powerful when I know they want me. I don't know it's kinda weird because I don't call myself a woman, but I'm treated as one.
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>>6345945
My bones were too dense to get into the last few office jobs I applied to. So I guess that already happens.
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>>6345916

I don't even know any of the Overwatch characters beyond Tracer.

I just started reading Fullmetal Alchemist after watching the anime a couple times and it's rekindling my love for Edward Elric. He'd be a cool cosplay, I think I'm short enough to make it work.
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>>6345910
Your thoughts are imbecilic, and casually proven immaterial to the performance of athletes by the comically poor quality of almost every single MtF athlete in the world. Which is understandable, since most cis women, and certainly most athletes among them, have testosterone levels 2-5 times higher than ours.

There is no magical male super-power lingering about us. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

Obviously I think MMA shouldn't exist, though. Fucking blood sports. But the masses need them, say their masters.
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>>6345955
you are a good girl
would you like headpats?
I can offer those.
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>>6345956
Do you get any therapy? that's worrying
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>>6345944
>Bone structure stays the same
bone density doesn't, though.
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>>6345946
>>6345944
fyi differences in skeletal structure are minimal in terms of impact 2bh.
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>>6345945
The difference between males is really small in comparison to the one between male and female.

That's it, not much more too it.
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>>6345961
yes please!
<3
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>>6345953
Not exactly, I only knew where she lives cause one of my trans friend would get clothes from fox.
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>>6345930
I just told mine that I wasn't sure if therapy was helping, then just kinda awkwardly stopped making appointments ;~;
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>>6345960
hey nerd
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>>6345959
Transitioning would be so easy as edward...
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>>6345959

>tfw i have a huge crush on alphonse elric
i have issues desu
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>>6345946
Wouldn't weak muscles paired with a large skeleton actually be disadvantageous? You have more bulk to move and less to move it with. Granted, a male skeleton can take more abuse.

>>6345939
No

>>6345944
Before orchi your potential is higher, after it isn't. Testosterone is the main anabolic hormone in the human body and post op trans girls have less of it than cis women. Ask people who have had surgery, T supplementation is actually offered with relatively high frequency because it can be too low to maintain physical fitness. I haven't personally had it offered, but I've spoken to multiple girls who have.
I can attest to being weak as shit desu.
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>>6345945
Is your hair naturally that curly? I can't ever get mine to curl.
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>tfw sick of my cock slapping my tummy as I try to ride my dildo
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>>6345964
I did. I've discussed it in therapy. But it's still fucked up my views of sex.
But I guess I don't have to worry about that for a while
>>6345969
I will give you headpats!
such a good girl!!
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>>6345974
Hey qt. How's you?
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>>6345971
See
>>6345933
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>>6345944
>Not sure about the muscle part but I am positive that mtf's potential is higher than a cis female.
Your muscle-building potential is determined almost entirely by what hormones / chemicals are in your body at the time though.
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>>6345978
are you competitive?
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>>6345977
SAME THO
I remember wanting a big metal husbando as a kid
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>>6345977
On a guy named Alphonse? Seriously? That name is so incredibly old-fashioned. I mean, my grandfather was called Alphonse and I never met anyone younger than him with that name...
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>>6345983
I couldn't possibly be more aroused and then you go and say that. You tryin gto kill me? murderer
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>>6345977

Alphonse is a pretty cool guy, Ed is a prettier cooler guy though

>>6345975

yeah he's like 14 when the manga starts, he's short and has long beautiful hair...
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>>6345986
i'm crying myself out
but I'll be better
today was objectively bad
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>>6345988
the cis womyn must be on steroids or something holy shit those muscles tho
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>>6345919
>TFW no gun on dem sexy hips.
I guess I'm back to being an anti-gun liberal
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>>6345978
>>6345988

I guess there isn't much research done for this, reasonably. But I just can't believe hormones can close the physical gap between male and female.

Of course mtfs wont be as strong as males but being on par with females sounds too extreme to me. Maybe I am wrong though.
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>tfw no kayla to fuck
I may as well not even have a dick
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>>6345941
it all depends on the character you're trying to portray and how in depth you wanna go with it. somr professionals spend thousands on their cosplay but you can adjust how little or how much you spend

>>6345943
good girl anon

>>6345948
Mei is a good one too thanks i forgot about her desu

>>6345959
brotherhood??? dude that's my face anime of all time!
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tfw your gf does nothing but make you constantly jealous because she hangs out with everyone else but you
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>>6346000
there's actually stories of East German athletes taking so many steroids they just transitioned into men
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>>6345991

SAME OMG IDK WHY LMAOO!!

>>6345993

my name is edith, CFH, i mean cmon. i like old fashioned names a ton.

>>6345997

alphonse is literal bae!! he was so cute and sweet and genuine and just such a good guy. that's my husbando. i just wanna hug him nonstop.
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>>6346003
transition
then maybe i can fuck you and imagine you're kayla
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>>6345910
sure, if you think cis women with a masculine build should be banned too

after long enough on hrt trans women have lower T and bone density than women which could actually put them at a disadvantage unless they train even harder since without the muscle to go with it a masculine frame could be a disadvantage from the higher center of gravity
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What time is melissa normally online?
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hey fags, who likes my album cover
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>>6345978
>>6345944

>, T supplementation is actually offered with relatively high frequency because it can be too low to maintain physical fitness.

I can attest to this my endo offered T after srs
I am weaker than my mum and shes shorter and lighter and doesnt do any sport
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>>6345994
well if you have an erection then come over and lets work on it bb
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>>6346002
but why?
take a look at yourself, surely you've noticed your muscles going?
Furthermore, take a look at ftms, they can become insanely muscular. Your hormones shape who you are - the only advantages mtfs have would be height, or if they're very early transitioners and with little feminising.
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>>6345999
I'm just going to imply a hug at you, and wish that things are better when you're all cried out.

I guess you've probably already talked about it with everyone, and I missed it because work.
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>>6345937
just a meme, seriously, just a meme, the origin of the word is that in the 70s, 80s, 90s where a great stigma against "autogynephiles", basically any trans woman that was not 100% hetero, and sterotype of a 50s housewife, ¿you as a kid were not ultra effeminate and don't hated everything that could be considered masculine? autogynephile, do you like girls? autogynephile,
you don't work in a "pink" collar job? autogynephile, basically "trutrans" idelogy is a conglomerate of the worst homophobic, lesbophobic and sexism believes to separated the "good trans women" to the "bad ones", 4chan used it bs memes, humor, sillyness, but no one uses it seriously.
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>>6345844
Yeah, I know a fair amount about them. I used to get cold sores. Haven't had one for well over a decade, and last year tested negative for all known strains. I had a complete STD check done. If I have one again I have a number to call at UIHC to have a sample taken.

>>6345846
Well, as a 16yo without hormones I passed in a one piece swim suit like (pic), and could use my cock. I first met the guy while on a yacht, and had impeccable references. He was talking railing to railing with my mom's best friend, whom I'd first had sex with 6 weeks before. It was the first time she'd ever moaned during sex. i don't know if they talked about that, but when I was entering the cabin, I overheard her saying "He's a dangerous one." in french.

BTW, a weekend is quite a few hours. My time with him went from around Sat 9AM to about Monday at 1AM. When you totaled up all the regular "gifts", I had him "pay" in gifts because I didn't need the money, I made more than $1000 an hour including sleep time. Above and beyond that he also gave special gifts like ones for Christmas, birthday, and graduation.
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>>6346018
heya kaka! ^-^
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>>6346006
when are you going to transition into a man, Red?
Imean, you keep asking us to use male pronouns, but doesn't look like you're even presenting in your pictures...are you waiting to start T or something?
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>tfw can't stop emotional cheating

im bad
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>>6346019
Lol fuck that then, I knew it'd be some bullshit. Thanks for letting me know. <3<3
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>>6345942
*lewd noises*
>>6345943
Good girl
>>6345944
Should women with pcos be discriminated against too? Tall women? Trans people should be allowed in all sports regardless of surgeries after 2 years of hrt.
>>6345968
Its just a natural advantage. Trans people should not face extra scrutiny just for being trans.
>>6345946
There is nothing wrong with having an advantage.
>>6345947
Both but the shirt came today. Ty:-)
>>6345979
Yep. It wouldn't be curly if it wasn't because I am lazy. Curly hair is a lot of work tho. Be glad.
>>6346001
There is it is just under the shirt. I am glad no one noticed
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>>6346004

The original was my favorite thing ever when I watched it in middle school

I watched Brotherhood while I was in uni but I don't remember it very well because I marathoned it in like 12 episode blocks trying to escape from feeling suicidal on a daily basis

>>6346008

But Ed is such a badass. And his English VA was makes him sound hot
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>>6345910
If it is such a big advantage, why aren't international sports events dominated by trans women? The olympics have allowed them since forever, but they're nowhere in sight.
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>>6346004
Thousands really? I haven't ever made a piece a jewelry that cost me in the thousands. Hundreds, yeah, especially if I start using rubies, A grade pearls or 24k foil from Dauvet, but thousands? I'd have to use solid gold or gem grade precious stones for that, and I'm so not going down that slope. Not on my own funds, at least.
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>>6346025
>tfw you deserve it because you put your girlfriend through hell
Im worse
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>>6346022
Korra! Still being so cute that little old ladies pinch your cheeks?
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>>6346023
i just want to be a feminine male, for now
I don't really like my body.
>>6346018
you're a peach.
Thank you.
Thank you all for being nice to me!
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>>6345910
I look at your picture and she doesn't seem much bigger than the girls behind her really. Her shoulders are just wider and it looks more like muscle. I think yes after they've been in female levels for 2 (?) years. I'm sure there's heavy weight women's fighting too isn't there? Couldn't they just qualify there?
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>>6346035
?
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>>6345978
>I can attest to being weak as shit desu.
If I'm weak as shit pre-transition (I can barely hold the fry-basket with one hand ;~;) how weak will I be down the road?
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>>6346008
Well, Edith still works today. So does Eléonore. But Alphonse? Ok, that's probably because I see my grandpa when I see that name.
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>>6346025
>emotional cheating
what do you mean by this
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>>6346040
what did she mean by this
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what are you cunt eaters listening to rn?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Pl76R8u4mg
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>>6346046
cheap trick
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girls,
I have a fun idea
let's all kill ourselves :D
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Oy vey which one of you trans girls wishes to become this year's miss America?
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im gay desu
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>>6345989
Definitely not, I've only recently started working out as well. I had difficulty floor pressing 10lb dumbbells when I started, the fitness baseline is not great.

>>6346002
Hormones are literally the reason why males and females have different amounts of strength and potential for physical strength. Anabolic steroids mimic the anabolic effects of testosterone. If you take away the T, and push it to levels even lower than cis females, there's no reason why a MtF athlete should be stronger than a cis female counterpart, and any other difference in size is accounted for by stuff such as weight categories.

>>6346041
About the same, you likely have little muscle because ano ;~;

>>6346014
>tfw
I feel so fucking frail even with working out :(
I could barely start the lawnmower yesterday, and if I weren't working out I definitely couldn't have. My mom is 60, has a bad hip and is out of shape and she can still do it..
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>>6346053
:3
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>>6346046
https://youtu.be/eocCPDxKq1o

>>6346053
ok
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>>6346038
I think that's the first time I've been called that. I hope it happens more - it's one of my favourites.

I certainly wouldn't choose the road you have, but I'll hope you walk it with grace, and that it's kinder than it seems.
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where is Valerie solanis anon?
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>>6346046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itt0rALeHE8
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>>6346056
trip on elanna
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>>6346053
But only if you are white.
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>>6346053
You do me and I'll do you
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>>6346062
hi im here
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>>6346060
pink is a filthy lezza
turn that shit off at once
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How much does it cost to have your brow bone removed?
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>tfw looking at wedding dresses with fiancée
>tfw she will look incredible while you're just going to look like a man

Why did i even bother
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>>6346058
As much as kurisu is best girl, ruka is so much more relevant here.
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>>6346071
hi there :3
>>6346053
I'm trying to avoid those thoughts
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>>6346074
its ok 2b gay
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>>6346000
She probably is, but people forget that some women are just naturally more mannish / higher testosterone than others.
Those women have an unfair advantage too, but such is life. Genetics are a HUGE factor in whether it's even possible for someone to be competitive at the highest level of a given sport.

Sort of related:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya#Gender_test

>>6346002
When cis people use steroids to go beyond their natural limits, and stop the drugs but keep working out, then after a while their strength will go back down to whatever their natural limit is.
With us it's the same way, except that our limit is being lowered instead of raised.
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>>6346075
You mean pushed back/filed down?
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going to work, bye-beeee

>>6346058
yeah, that sounds about right
back when I did parkour, I was strong enough to lift my body weight with a decent amount of power, but I didn't look strong. I was just really well toned.

>>6346079
I actually didn't click with ruka that well... I might later in transition.
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>>6346075
Around 10.000 shekels
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>>6345944
Reminder that Fallon Fox isn't some kind of sports crushing winner, she is literally among the bottom tiers for her weight class. The only reason she's even news is some dumb cis fighter getting pissy at the implication that her body's measurements are more male-range than Fox.
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>>6346033
>tfw coulda been a contenda if I had just transitioned earlier and been okay enough with my body to train it
Even without testosterone I'd have a pretty good body for a lot of sports; running, basketball, volleyball, swimming... Oh well, that's not how it worked out.
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>>6346072
Hi :D
want to kill some men?
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>>6346083
uh yes.
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>>6346049

are you my dad
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>>6346061
peach peach peach
I'm not a role model kiddos
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>>6346067
>tfw just enough jewish and black dna to be an agent of the new world order
can't wait for my white slaves desu, I'mma open up a reel gentile planation!
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well today's going terribly for me so far
how's everyone else today
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>>6346089
always
>>6346092
no
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>>6346058
>ywn compete with elanna who the weakest is
I suspect malnutrition gives me the edge though
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>>6346089
Woah woah wait why?

-Totally not a male
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>>6346058
you are so weak
I want to keep you locked away like a beautiful, precious little china doll and admire you from a safe distance
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>>6346074
why

your not my girlfriend who is so close to leaving me
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>>6346080
Hi red. How do you feel today
>>6346082
Do genetics have anything to do with ability in esports? I'm curious.

My friend and i were watching dota last night and we had this insane idea: we should open an esports bar. Every game on televisions around the room. Niche audience. Probably wouldnt work too well in san antonio texas. Maybe in austin.
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>>6346054
When I was a student, I managed to end up on the shortlist for a Miss France regional qualification pageant, but my shitty fake ID did cut that one joke short.
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>>6346030
omg brotherhood >>>>>> original (although this one is good too)

>>6346034
yeah but like I said they're professionals and that's their entire costume costing that much usually armored ones since they have to commission artisans and whatnot for the crazy designs. cosplay can be as easy as spending 100$ or less I'm just saying the price varies as much as you want to

>>6346037
n-no >\\< although I am getting gendered female by mistake occasionally these days it's an alright feel! wbu qt?

>>6346059
better idea kiss your gf!
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>>6346013
Might work if the music is pretentious enough.
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>>6346095
my life has never taken such a dramatic turn for the worse ever

And its ALL MY FAULT
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>>6346095
Cheer up. I am posting this jew around but deep inside i am hurt. At least you are self aware enough to be depressed.
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>>6346096
we got a live one
>>6346098
you are scum 2bh
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>>6346100
lezzas r grosse
female bisexuality will be tolerated tho.
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>>6346098
*cuts u up*
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>>6346095
Very bad too
But I'm listening to happy music and crying and hugging my plush husky until I feel better
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>>6346077
ooo do you have a date set?
also there're all sorts of different dresses that can hide and accentuate different stuff

>>6346087
it was pretty kek-worthy when one of the fighters that was bitching and moaning about the unfair advantage of super-strong trannies was found to be doping
or the other one who said they could beat anyone even men but then didn't wanna fight a tranny
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>>6346095
my gf doesn't give two shits about me and spends 100% of her time on her friends and none of it on me
she's probably cheating on me too
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>>6346103

The original does get kinda... messy... near the end. But I love the situation after it ends because it's so tragic how Ed gets trapped in a world without alchemy, his brother, OR automail.
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>>6346090
I can't find any quotes from anyone JUST getting that surgery, but it looks like it's somewhere in the 4-7k range depending on surgeon and method required.
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>>6346112
*teleports behind u*
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>>6346101
fevers and disgusting
but it will pass
i need affection
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>>6346013

yo is that the AJJ crown in the bottom right
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>>6346079
Idk, despite ruka being trans I didn't really relate to her as a character at all. I like tsundere characters with some depth to them, hence kurisu is best girl.

>>6346085
>tfw never been toned
You did parkour? Neat.
Also, like I said I didn't click with ruka either. She doesnt have all that much character apart from being super femme

>>6346097
You probably would win that yeah. I eat well and I work out so I'm not as frail as I was. Still weak as shit tho ;~;

>>6346099
W-would you give Sega games in my doll cabinet?
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>>6346095
my chest has been feeling numb for longer intervals.
still feeling tired after waking up for the 2nd time today
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>>6346121
Of course Kurisu is best girl. But TFW I don't pass as well as Ruka. Time to go back in time and tell my parents to eat more vegetables.
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>>6346112
Kill me you little bitch. I want it so badly
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>>6346120
Yes! It is a patch from a friend I once had. He sent it in the mail. The band meant a lot to him.

>>6346104
Its folk punk
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>>6346121
yes, but nothing too hectic because I don't want you rage quitting and hurting yourself.
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>>6346046
I prefer the term cock muncher
https://youtu.be/20Ov0cDPZy8
>>6346053
Ladies first
>>6346056
Everyone on mtfg is. Some haven't admitted it yet.
>>6346082
Without genetic advantages sports wouldn't be fun
>>6346087
This desu
>>6346118
No, kill me-plz!
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>>6346119
Ah yes. I too am sick.
I would give you affection and make you soup if i could. Sorry.
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>>6346121

>I didn't really relate to her as a character at all.
She didn't really have much personality. Or meaningful screentime.
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>>6346108
Jews are scum, even the female ones. Start with them
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>tfw dealing with old machinery
>tfw bolt soaked in PBBlaster for 4 hours and still fucking hard to turn. I need to turn it so I can adjust a critical drive belt that is loose.
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>>6346126

Oh. That's cool. AJJ was a huge part of highschool for me. That cover gives me serious Binding of Isaac: Rebirth vibes. I was in a folk punk collective, once...
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>>6346093
You're going to make me blush if you keep this up!

>>6346103
Getting gendered female a lot more by strangers, even in my gross baggy work drag, and I'm out to everyone including at work. Not sure I mentioned, but my discussion with the area's senior gender therapist got me HRT recommendation and a much-accelerated access to SRS after, like, the one meeting. I was (almost) on cloud 9 (she had the presence of mind to make me really self-conscious about my breasts).
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>>6346128
Are you a jooo?
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>>6346121
tehurn.com/tuturu
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>>6346115
my gf loves me but refuses to acknowledge it because i'm trans.
though we are perfect for each other, and I love and care for her more than anyone else in the world, she would rather try and get with sleazy men who just want to fuck her and older, married men who want a bit on the side than even acknowledge her feelings for me.

*disclaimer: she's not actually my gf, but should be.
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>>6346111
>tfw u wish u were bi but are pretty sure ur not
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>>6346101
>Do genetics have anything to do with ability in esports?
My guess would be yes, if only because genetics probably determine the limits of your reflexes, hand-eye coordination, etc.
But take that with a grain of salt, because really I have no idea.

>>6346128
>Without genetic advantages sports wouldn't be fun
p much
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>>6346132
eh, so long as men die.
works for me!
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>>6346143
you better keep saying you are, bitch.
NO lezzas.
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>>6346106
>>6346086
>>6346067
Kind of weird for you to be using Helen Thomas in your images for these Jewish conspiracy strawman posts, when she pretty famously got forced out of her job as a White House correspondent (which by the way she was excellent at) for criticizing Israel's occupation of Palestine. Come on, at least pick somebody that makes sense, don't just choose them based on their appearance.
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>>6346132
>>6346138
I look like one
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>>6346118
Are u back katana anon? i miss you like the deserts miss the rain.

>>6346128
I can now see the hilt :3
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Is it weird that sometimes I fantasize about being a cool, hot as fuck tranny?

I'm not transgender or anything, but I there are times when I think about how good I would be as a woman. I imagine I would feel so powerful and confident, being a sexy, provocative woman who also has a big ass dick

I've always gotten a sense of confidence from the female empowerment type of stuff I've seen, women owning their sexuality and what not, so maybe that's why I feel like this
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>>6346095
What's wrong, Kiwi?
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>>6346133
Last time I found myself dealing with a stuck bolt, I managed to snap clean my jack's crank. Had to ask for help because it's the only tool I had. Well, the guy I asked was a bit scared when he saw the broken crank.
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>>6346117
k thank you. that's still a lot I hoped it would be like 3k tops.
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>>6346152
Well, I don't know about weird, but maybe you'd enjoy crossdressing or something, seems like a reasonable thing to go with having that kind of fantasy at least.
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>>6346124
>ywn send your parents a d-mail and tell them to do things that would have made you cis
Y even life

>>6346127
I don't ragequit though ;~~~~;
Hectic games are my favourite

>>6346131
Yeah, that's how I felt as well. Also okabe was honestly a dick to her most of the time.

>>6346139
:D
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>>6346152
i hear that you have to work very hard just to keep your dick from shrinking
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>be me
>intake for surgery
>nurse tells me I need to take a pregnancy test as part of the preop check
Fucking hugboxers
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>>6345910
Here's what a doctor has to say about the possible advantages a late-transitioner could have.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/3/20/4128658/dr-ramona-krutzik-endocrinologist-discusses-possible-advantages-fallon-fox-has

My personal opinion is no. It's too difficult to regulate the fairness of male vs. female genetic makeup on an individual basis among transgender persons. They should only be able to fight another transgender person of the same experienced same in the same weight class.
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>>6345910
trans-women should be able to fight in trans MMA. They shouldn't be allowed to fight cis women.
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>>6346151
isn't that just a common meme?
I didn't realise there was a specific anon for that
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>>6346152
k so like am I the designated closet opener today?
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>>6346159
Tuturu was the worst character. So glad when she died over and over
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a trap fucc with a tite tucc
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>>6346159
really? you don't even get mad at vidya? like at all?
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>>6346168
Mayushii is a precious cinnamon roll.
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>>6346162
Find me one trans woman at the top of her sport and I'll consider your jumping at shadows with more seriousness. Until then, go learn. Your ignorance and laziness make you revolting.
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>>6346162
>the same experienced same
the same experienced sex
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If my doc doesn't give me an orchi I am going to self orchi
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>>6346170
meh. i want that to be funny, but it's not.
definitely not as funny as "big gunch w/ extra chunch"
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>>6346148
>tfw bis are just agp degenerates too
:^)
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How do I quit wanting to kill myself
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>>6346184
Stop being sad
>>
i desperately need love and affection
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>>6346158
I've cross dressed with friends for fun, but I don't think I could ever sexualize it. I would find it hilarious

>>6346160
Wouldn't I just have to use my dick every day? I could probably manage that given the imaginary confidence I feel with this fantasy
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>>6346188
How
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>>6346115
The girl I like is spending most of her time playing Overwatch these days and is slow to respond to messages over Skype and such because of it, it makes me lonely, I miss having real conversations. : ( At some point if this continues I may need to get the game myself just to be able to communicate with her more often, heh.
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>>6346179
That's precisely why it's a controversial topic. Other important factors in MMA fighting other than genetics is skill and experience. They're all important and unfair advantages are frowned upon; such as the UFC's implementation of USADA testing.

We can have differing opinions without insulting each other. I hope you can realize that. ;)
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>>6346168
Dropped

>>6346171
Not rly no. I tend to play really hard and frustrating games and have sort of had to learn to control my temper. If I get really mad I throw controllers on a padded surface like my couch so that I don't damage anything, and turn the game off.
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>>6346183
I don't care about the agp meme, lezzas are just terrible human beings desu
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>>6346164
Stop it! Katana anon is real and defends me.and one day he'll marry me and take me away from this horrible place :3
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>>6346190
i want my tiddies to shut up
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sorry everyone

sorry red
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>>6346163
I wonder if mtfs and ftms would be evenly matched enough for them to compete in the same TransMMA tournaments; early T versus late T.
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>>6346119
A V just said "sorry" in the last thread red
>>6346194
Stop doing whatever is making you sad
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>>6346210
I can't. I'm not the one that's causing it.
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>>6346207
I forgive you.
It's just dumb internet stuff
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>>6346199
yeah so obviously we should ban cis women with a genetic advantage too, only qt petit girls allowed :^)
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>>6346177
>>6346201
kek
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>>6346177
yea, have to say, she's incredibly adorable
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>>6346203
every group has shit people imho
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>>6346201
well aren't you just the calmest little thing?
sure, you can have as many sega games as you need, sweetie
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>>6346210
thank you.
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>>6346199
The problem is that your opinions are baseless, segregating, and based in a blind faith in magical power invested in AMAB persons that guarantees a permanent, drastic, AND COMPLETELY UNOBSERVED advantage outside of all phenomena that seem to actually contribute to athletic performance.

No. You cannot have that opinion and be respected by me.
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>>6346208
I think the height difference is gonna be your main problem there.
>>6346224
I know that, sister, but you just gotta let me hate on the lezzas,
pls
i'm begging you
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>>6346205
tell me your secrets

tiddies
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sup fags, guess who didn't get commited or hav
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>>6346233
We all know the real enemies are men. Lesbians are our allies.
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>>6346034
Fine needle work and bead work can cost over a thousand for a chest panel alone.
>tfw having worn dresses that had many square yards of bead work.
Damn thing weighed a ton too.

>>6346058
iktf I can't start any of the chainsaws I have on the farm unless I pre heat them with a heat gun. One is even an easy start type with spring loaded start.

>>6346082
>Genetics are a HUGE factor in whether it's even possible for someone to be competitive at the highest level of a given sport.
So true. I was speed limited for running, but I had endurance. I could keep a near winning 5k pace up for a 10k race. I couldn't run any faster for a 100yard dash.
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>>6346013
Reminds me of this desu.
>>6346136
>ywn be part of artichokeification
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>>6346237
What about men that are lesbians?
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>>6346237
SCUM anon pls.
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>>6346236
hi
I like all your guns
did you have a mental health thing?
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>>6346216
Petit girls fight other petit girls in the atomweight division.

Cris Cyborg is a dominant champion who beats the shit out of other cis female fighters. Although she does have a checked past due to testing positive for steroids and getting suspended, once her suspension was up she was allowed to fight again. This is all regulated by committees who oversee and license fighters according to their weight class and fight record indicating their experience and past opponents.
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>>6346236
fix your eyebrows they are too close together

glad ur day went well
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>So Red, I live in the same city as Amy and know where she works.
>Want me to rough her up a bit?
I haven't worked in a month senpai and everyone knows that
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>get hte dysphoria back
>abusing drugs and stopping eating feels like a real good idea now
crazy how gender do dat
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>>6346241
Not sure what you mean. Trans women are women. Trans men are men.
>>6346242
All men must die.
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>>6346225
You've made me a happy frail little thing, you have no idea :3

>>6346219
Ree

>>6346239
Estrogen: not even once

>>6346237
I thought lesbians hated trantrans
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>>6346237
>Not loving man cock
Literally, what?
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>tfw it's going to be okay

>>6345343
it's not that at all, it's more that somebody needs to carry on the position. it's a Davy Jones kind of deal.
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>>6346243
yeah trying to get a letter for srs


>>6346246
I am trying to be a faggy bro though.

hence the m48 in my hand
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>>6346233
srry bby, whatever u need
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>>6346234
that's pretty funny.
i'm in a lot of discomfort :(
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>>6346254
>I thought lesbians hated trantrans

only on the internet. normal lesbians are nice, i'd say half of my female friends are bi or lesbian
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y'all please don't make threats against Amy
I won't tolerate it.
No more hurting. only healing
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>>6346212
What is making you sad?
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>Gf breaks up with me and emotionally destroys me
>she comes over yesterday and tells me how much she misses me
>tells me that she found someone
>tells me that she's exactly like me but nicer
>tells me that they fucked on the first date
>she leaves and I get drunk as hell and wake up at the side of the road
>get home and she messaged me telling me that she still has feelings for me like I have her
>tells me that she wants to remain friends but with benefits
Someone please kill me. Like seriously
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>>6346255
Girls are the best.
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>>6346230
Okay, I see a bunch of peppered buzz words coming out of a frothy mouth in your statement but nothing of substance. I linked a statement from a endocrinologist to boot. What sources do you have to back up your claims that a sanctioned fight between a transgender woman vs. a cis woman is fair?
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>>6346267
you should consider cutting her out of your life
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>>6346257
haha
I'm not sure I'll have to worry about ever getting SRS again
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>>6346152
I sort of know those feels.

I used to see people's timelines and think "whoa, that's amazing. I wish I were trans so I could go through a transformation like that."
And when I was little, I always related to female empowerment type stuff way more than a normal cis boy ever would have.

But yeah, you sound like you could be trans yourself.
If you could start your life over but be born as a cis girl then would you?
If you could wake up with your ideal body tomorrow, and everyone you know took it in stride and didn't question it, then what would it look like?
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>>6346267
Why exactly are you letting her back into your life?
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>>6346267
What she's doing is not okay at all..
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>kayla buys a new vibe
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>>6346239
I never count the hours spent in my costs though, since spending hours focusing on something that leaves little room of other thoughts is a side benefit... Though, yes, really fine stuff is expensive even when you only take beads and thread into account... 24k plated Miyuki seed beads are about 1€ per gram... Don't want to pay for a ton of those. ;)
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>>6346265
u already made it clear u don't approve of the hate

if u keep giving it attention and reaction then shitposters will know it's fertile soil and keep going
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>>6346272
Girls are good for kissing and bad for cocking you
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>>6346253
tell you what,
we can spare the lipstick lezzas, but dykes must go - they're practically men anyway
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>>6346275
I don't know if I can
>>6346278
I love her.
>>6346280
I know...
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>>6346254
what games would you like, my frail little thing?
also, can I help you 2 player sonic 2? I feel it's impossible to get allthe chaos emeralds without 2 people
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>>6346254
I thought lesbians hated trantrans

Meme as old as time.

Sensationalist news and TERFs themselves have been persistent in their proclamation that lesbians, and lesbian organizations, despise trans women. Only it's not really true. Those opposed to us are comparatively few, and long have been. But it's a lot easier to organize a targeted hate group than a targeted defense against hate without prior warning.
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>>6346287
she doesn't love you
she is using you
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>>6346267
This
>>6346275
>>6346278
>>6346280

Delete her phone and never answer her calls again.
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>>6346284
I'd rather be filled with a toy than a penis any day.
>>6346285
This is mostly acceptable
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>>6346254
Not really, or not here at least. I spend enough time at lesbian places irl and never got any hate, even though I'm not stealth there.
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>>6346258
thnx bbe<3
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