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Old bread >>5792980
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mth for dxmmmmm
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Number
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Just a few months to pay off that loan and then I can kill myself
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>>5794762
that's a piss poor excuse, just do it
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>be with gf
>life is amazing
>can administer headpats
>be apart from gf
>depression and loss of will to live
>no headpats
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>>5794766
It isn't an excuse.
If I don't pay the loan, it gets transferred to my bf. Don't want that
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>>5794767
fill that void with more mall katanas you filthy weaboo trash
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hey y'all
who here longboards?
Gonna go do it rn
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>>5794772
what has he done for you lately if you're going to kill yourself?
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>>5794767
>tfw your gf administers headpats
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>>5794757
o.O
Careful yo

>>5794780
Nighttime longboarding?
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>>5794781
A lot
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>>5794774
>no mall katanas sharp enough to vie with gf
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>>5794785
then killing yourself is already pretty fucking selfish, what would it matter to him if you dropped a debt on him too since you're already going to destroy his spirit
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>>5794762
or you could just not kill yourself that's always an option
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>>5794783
>>5794767
>tfw no gf headpat dispenser
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>>5794790
Because we talked about me doing myself in and he agreed to it as long as I don't drop the loan on him
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>>5794784
posting is legit impossible now bbecss6 i have sveolved past the need fot time. i am god
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Hi. :3
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>>5794793
Sure and continue the life of a hon.
Seems like a GOOD FUCKING IDEA!!
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>>5794800
Hi

>>5794799
Congrats!
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>>5794800
Hello
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>>5794796
*administrator

don't objectify gfs

>>5794798
that's... extremely fucked up unless he's trying to apply reverse psychology or something
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>>5794805
He just wants me to find peace of mind
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i wish mado were he re
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>>5794809
me2
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>>5794805
>don't objectify gfs
What if she's into that?
[spoiler]She's not my gf because Id on't really like that[/spoiler]
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>>5794809
>i domt rmememebr making this tbdesu
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>>5794696
I started at 23.
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>>5794803
>>5794804

How's it going ladies?
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>really like a shirt
>it's 3 times as expensive as the other shirts I want to get
There was one that was $50 too heck no
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so I've gotta go home for spring break in a week

do you think it's noticeable that I'm trans yet? I still haven't come out
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>>5794711 #
Do you mind waiting like 20 more minutes? I dont have any full body pics on my phone but I can when I get off work soon
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>>5794824
I've spent a few hundred dollars several times to put together outfits that I know my gf will love seeing me in
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>>5794826
I think it's noticeable you're adorable no hugbox. However I feel like you're still a bit andro so if you wanted to present as a guy you probably could.
>>5794829
I'm just trying to get a wardrobe of girl clothes started. When I get a job I can splurge on over-priced clothing but I'm trying to be a little economical about this.
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>>5794823
Doing pretty well finally got over my hangover. Getting offered drinks while I'm out changes my drinking from pacing myself and fine to struggling to stay sober. About to head out to get some food but taking way too long to get energy together hah. How about yourself?
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where are all my sissy bois at?
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>>5794834
I'm waiting for that burger, Kari!!
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>>5794833
I present as a guy all the time but sometimes when I post pics on other boards people ask if I'm trans so I mean idk

I guess my parents are less likely to jump to that conclusion that 4chan people
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>>5794838
I'm goingggg! okayyy okay! League when I'm back maybe?
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>>5794834
I'm ok. Trying to sort out if this local mtf is into going on a date or something. It seems to be a bit tricky. Glad you're over your hangover though. Drink water. :P
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>>5794842
I mean it's obvious you're turning into a girl to anyone who knows about all this. In public I'd probably do a double take and be unsure about you.

And yeah they are but you might hear comments about how soft and girly you look now.
>>5794843
How long do you think you'll be gone? If it's not too late we can do a game, yeah!
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>>5794696
I started at 22 senpai paid, it can be doneeee
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>>5794849
Fampai
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well, i started hrt at 16 and still don't pass at 19 ;_;
that said, i think i'd look very good with ffs, and sound good with vfs, so mum had a plan to get me vocal surgery, and help fund facial.

well, until dad had a violent fit last night, and now the police are making him leave. which means we have no money, and i have no future

suicide methods, anyone? i can't take this any more.
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>>5794826
Try pushing up your lower lip just a bit so you dont look like you have a ridiculously long midface. Also make sure you show your top teeth when you smile, it really makes a huge difference.
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Jfc I'm stressing over some person I've never even talked to until a few days ago. I want to stop talking to him but he seems incredibly sad and depressed, and I'm scared what he might do to himself if I just block him. But he keeps wanting me to send him more nude pics and he won't stop messaging me, and he keeps talking about "our future together" which is fucking weird.
Fuck /soc/ and fuck kik this stupid app was a mistake and I never want to use it again
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Question to those who have had a brow lift done - should you have your brows shaped before or after it?

Also:

> Tfw unsure if mom is hugboxing me so I don't kill myself.
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>>5794855
Post pics if you want opinions.

VFS is totally unnecessary, and almost never will yield the result you're looking for (it shifts tone, not changing resonance which is the hard part of voice training, aka most folks will still sound like a tranny unless they fix their resonance).
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>>5794884
no no, my problem is entirely pitch. i was a goddamn classically trained singer in my youth. i know how to control resonance and intonation. but i also have extreme difficulty with pitch, and would never want to 'accidentally' come out of a female range, nor cough or laugh, and reveal that i'm a fucking tranny.
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Will I actually be happy for once if I was to transition?
Happiest time I could remember of my life was basically almost the entirety of BC WoW when I pretended to be a girl online
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>tfw no head pats
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>>5794890
> and would never want to 'accidentally' come out of a female range, nor cough or laugh, and reveal that i'm a fucking tranny.

These aren't problems. Only in the first few months of training do you have the first problem, and your coughing/laughing will change once it becomes automatic.

After a year of constant use (slowly ramping up at the beginning while endurance increases) it becomes impossible to go back without repeating the whole voice training thing. Like, you'll sound like a woman trying to put on a guy's voice, because it's become second nature. Or at least, that's how I've heard everyone else's experience has been with it, including a friend IRL.
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>>5794901
no. idk why everyone thinks this. it's not going to magically make you happy. I pass, I'm attractive, nothing has changed except I am a girl now. I still hate my life and myself.
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>>5794904
I've only ever heard the opposite. People having their vocal chords tire from repeated use, people getting caught off-guard and nervous, and sounding odd. Some would say that even after years of training, if they ever got sick, their pitch would drop.

It'd be nice if you were telling the truth, but I don't think training alone will make my voice consistently convincing or normal.
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dxm man ohhh man oh shit man that's the real stuff man gets me man every time man I swear dude ahAHAHAH

ohhhh shittttttttt man
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>>5794901
Only if you can pass, esp. if you're under 23. Otherwise it is hell, and would not recommend it unless you enjoy losing your grip on reality and kill yourself in the very end to escape from the pain.

As a plus, you can actually feel the pain and cry instead of having it totally numbed by testosterone, reducing you to a sobbing wreck rather than a listless, passionless robot.
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>>5794845
That's good to hear, and good luck! Even if it doesn't work as something more new friends are always great.Yeah I'm still not drinking enough I need to have more but yeah.

>>5794846
Just got home would've posted in the car but the ip my phone was on was banned then my phone died lol.
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>>5794915 (me)
I've also never met a trans woman with a passable voice, lol. Young or old. It'd be nice if I could.
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where all da sissy white bois at mmm grr
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>>5794915
> People having their vocal chords tire from repeated use

This only really happens early on. Flat out, I mean, plenty of exercises at the start are basically _all_ about strengthening your vocal chords.

>>5794926
Check youtube, esp. the tutorial videos for resonance. The reason why tranny voices sound like tranny voices is because they control pitch and tone, but not resonance. Stereotypical tranny voice is falsetto at worst, or artificially high with male resonance.
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>>5794904
Different anon, I basically never accidentally slip when speaking, but I can't shift my other noises, the coughing/laughing/sneezing/whatever.
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>>5794913
This hits a little close to home
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>>5794938
How long have you been doing it for?
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>>5794913
>i pass
gonna need pics senpai

>>5794920
>22
>on the edge
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>>5794937
Look, it's not like I'm not training my voice. I'm even seeing a speech therapist on top of all the Youtube videos I can find. It's just, I don't ever want to slip down into a male pitch, ever. And since I struggle so much with pushing my pitch above about ~180Hz, I think surgery would greatly benefit me here.

Besides, >>5794938 is highlighting my biggest concern. Nothing terrifies me more than involuntarily outing myself.
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>>5794944
I spoke in falsetto for a few years, I've been using a more proper female range voice for about half a year
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mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmm
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god i misses this
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>>5794835
I'm pretty sure you want /femgen/, although honestly they've got something of a witch hunt going on right now so you'd just end up watching them call accuse each other of being trannies which probably isn't the kind of sissy behavior you're looking for.
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>>5794938
>tfw feminine sneezes/coughs/laughs but male voice
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>>5794959
>tfw feminine moans
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mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmm

mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmmm

mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmm

mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmmm

mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmm

mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmmm

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mmmm where white boi pussi at mmmmm
ohhh SHITTT dude
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>>5794959
Same
I kinda force my sneezes/coughs/yawns to sound girlier cuz I don't want to sound like my father
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^ lol
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>>5794967
relatable post
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>>5794959
>tfw your laughs crack and squeek like a teenage boy
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>>5794965
tjis fbh gbh tni ntnjdkbtbjd
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>>5794959
>tfw feminine sneezes/coughs/laughs
How do you do it?
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>>5794975
duddddeeeee tmth man oh my GOD ahahahahahahahaahhhh
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>>5794979
dude weed lmao
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>>5794976
basically any noise i make becomes logarithmically more male the longer i exhale

>>5794967
same, but also it's fun to just laugh in a higher pitch, it feels nice
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>>5794982
ccxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxcxccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
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>>5794983
>basically any noise i make becomes logarithmically more male the longer i exhale
That's the part where you don't do it
I want to know about the part before you exhale a bunch and sound like a boy
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>>5794983
I've been said to have a girly laugh
but I don't know, it was an insult though
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>>5794984
>tfw you look at ur arm and realize its not ur body
whoa wtffff
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I've been thinking of going back to being a feminine boy....except I'll be a VERY feminine boy. I'll still wear girl clothes, look like a girl, take anti-androgen, hell I may still take estrogen. I'll conceal my boobs....I'll just be a tall very femme boy! I don't care what people gender me! I think
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>>5794989
ccccccccccccccccxjhxgxfgjhjhfgdfgdhxfgdjhxdf
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>>5794992
*tips fedora*
im not even high u vape bro
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>>5794952
yo whats good girl
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>>5794989
Duude drugs lmao
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>>5794990
I took the approach of I'll just try my hardest to get gendered female but I don't correct people other than my parents on it. It's about how people see you, and showing them how you want to be seen, instead of just saying it.
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>>5794986
i genuinely don't really know... i guess on some subliminal level i'm saying to myself "you're well beyond being gay, so just be well-beyond gay with your voice too" and then i feel more-stupid the longer i make noise?

the laughter is pretty instinctual at least, it just starts high and is fun to let out

>>5794987
fag

>>5794972
underage pls go
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>>5794997
drugs are a social construct talk to me on skype or discord or some things im bored and ue fun
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one of you be my doggone gf right now. im sick of this
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>>5794997
What are you on atm dude?

>>5795003
Wow that's incredibly rood
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>>5795003
My dudevoice never properly dropped. On the plus side it's not really a man voice, on the downside, on bad days I sound like a faggy teenage boy, especially when laughing.

>>5795005
I'm laying in bed on my phone rn and waiting to drift off ;~;

>>5795009
Oh I'm sober, just tired and getting ready to go to bed.
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>tfw come here to look at pics of cute traps and fulfill my fantasy of coming one
>tfw no one posts pics even though they say they pass
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>>5795013
hi lmao
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>>5795012
A lot of girls sound like teenage boys though...
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>>5795012
Not good enough Elanna
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>>5795015
hey there, i am a very respectful chaser. would you like to be my girlfriend? hehe
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>>5795013
It's cause some people nab pics off here to make tier lists and stuff like that lately. This is me lately though.
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>>5795012
elanna y do u h8 me ;_;
>>5795015
u dont look like a person rn but nobody does i can feel my brain literally in a vise rn dxm was dumb ut fun
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>tfw dog shit skin
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>>5795015
I was gonna complain about the nose piercing but u know what I asked for pics
you def pass qt

>>5795024
You almost pass you just need to work on your makeup and jaw desu family u close tho keep it UP
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>>5795012
>On the plus side it's not really a man voice
sounds like a pretty good plus side senpai

>>5795009
yo get a load of the girl with the girly laugh :^)
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>>5795025
STOP GOING ANON U DUMB CUNT
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>>5795024
hey what's up please be my girlfriend if you have time
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Morning grills.
Is it just me or is this pic super creepy?
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>>5795024
You're always getting better Kari
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>>5795017
None that I've met do...

>>5795019
My brain needs a break. ;~;

>>5795025
I don't, I really just strongly dislike Skype. ;~;

>>5795030
It's not a man voice but it's still clockable.
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>>5794990
I'm considering the same. Well, actually it's more that I don't know if I should bother trying to go further than that as far as social transitioning goes, since I know I have a 0% chance of passing and almost as low chance of being a non-passing-but-still-kind-of-okay-looking transgirl.

I'm not going to bother concealing my boobs even if I do, though; I was paranoid about that for the first six months or so but it's become clear that nobody either notices or gives a shit that that awkward shy tall guy has grown A-cup tits, so I'm not going to keep wearing an extra layer of clothes to try to hide it, it's going to get too damn hot for that by summer.

And besides, this is America, it's not like they've never seen a guy with tits; fuck, one of my colleagues has what look like C or D-cup breasts and he isn't even taking titty-skittles (although to be fair he is extremely obese).
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>tfw feels like you have a fire in your head that can't be put out when you're not on hrt
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Do mtfs generally endeavor to sound like a girl at home or do they just talk like a guy?
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>>5795045
me 2 discord senpai
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>>5795030
Hey
I'm glad puberty didn't rekt my voice
I barely squeaked as a teen :D

>>5795045
oh, fair enough then
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>>5795028
Yeah not muuch I can do on jaw. As for makeup what would you think? I mean I'm going for a very basic look but I don't know what to change about it lately. Too much makeup looks dragish. That was also a kinda lazier day look though.

>>5795034
Oh gosh anon we only just met desuu~

>>5795042
Thanks :3 You too though!!

>>5795037
Very much so.

>>5795052
After a while the voice becomes normal/natural.
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I might be getting laid off and losing my insurance and surgery dates, I can't take it. My life is coming apart. I was so close.
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>>5795052
If I'm home alone I'll try to practice or just talk in a higher pitch but if family is around I'll use my regular guy voice. I dont want them making fun of me for sounding faggy.
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>>5795050
i think iktf ;_;

is it a fire near the back of your head, around where the brainstem is?

>>5795057
let's fight, winner gets your voice

>>5795045
i mean i can't speak for you but between an apparently andro voice and a pretty fem appearance i would assume a lot of this clocking goes on in your head
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>>5795050
I'm so sorry; I've only ever been off for about five days and I felt about as bad emotionally as I ever had (and even then I only ran out of estrogen, I still had spiro to take). How long has it been? Are you going be able to get refills soon?
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>>5795061
I'm just a regular cis male who wishes he was a female so I can't do much on suggesting makeup
I guess just try to rely less on the egyptian style eyeshadow, as it can look really good but only if you really do up the other parts of yoru makeup.
Idk if its filters or what, but your nose blends into your face, yet you have a cute small nose and should accentuate it, same with freckles. Lips are fine, just need to define the edges as right now they blend. You need to accentuate your cheekbones more too, and contour your cheeks so your face shapes more into a V rather than a square

>>>>>>>>tfw no tranny friends to talk to on discord
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>>5795052
i try to talk out my ass as much as humanly possible
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>>5795064
Yeah, it feels pretty awful and i'm anxious and stuff.
>>5795065
Over a month
>are you going to be able to get refills soon
If the stuff I ordered arrives sure otherwise maybe 3 more weeks.
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>>5795061
>>5795063

Hm. Okay. It seems pretty hard to tell the difference between mtf/trap/femboy/sissy/crossdresser. There seems to be a lot of overlap. I want to make sure I'm getting into the right thing.
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>>5795064
I never said my voice was girly
It just didn't become super manly/like my dad's unlike what happened to my brother
It's partially why I think I may have low T
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>>5795053
I don't use discord at all though, I don't know anyone else that uses it ;~;

>>5795064
In real life it doesn't tend to get clocked. Phones are the fucking worst though...
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>>5795075
>/trap/femboy/sissy/crossdresser.
Those are all boys. They identify as male at the end of the day.
>mtf/trans
We are girls.
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>>5795075
>mtf/trap/femboy/sissy/crossdresser

Pretty much just
>Trans/slang for young passable trans/feminine male identifying who might be on hormones/fetishist/fetishist
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>>5795021
sure I'm game lmao
>>5795047
Did you have a femme boy phase before getting on hormones? I'm thinking of reverting back to that but this time even more femme (and maybe a neo-vagina and maybe ffs)
>>5795024
Nice eye makeup! I would suggest using some contour on the cheekbones and jawline
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>>5795077
text me!
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>>5795076
get on HRT and get a bloodtest, you're probably super low T because i was borderline female levels before starting HRT and my voice is fucking terrible

>>5795072
just power through it, do whatever you have to do to distract yourself... it's terrible but you'll make it to your next dose

>>5795077
i can see that, phones are pretty shitty for that sort of thing... thank god for email and texting right?
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>>5794994
hahahahahahahhaahaha man
good shit man oh mannn
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>>5795084
Have you changed your name and gender legally?
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>>5795013
ohh mannNNN
look at this bro 10/10 man mark man gets me everytime man EVERYTIME ahahahahaha
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>>5795096
nope, not yet
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>>5795077
How'd you go 5 years without realizing your voice was guyish?

>>5795090
Yeah a bloodtest is something I need
Last time I had one was when I was ~9
Here's hoping I have low T levels at least
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>>5795080
>>5795083

...Alright. lol
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>>5795104
I did realise, but the people around me hugboxed me when I brought it up. This January was the first time I got a straight answer out of my ex when I very directly confronted him about it.
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>>5795102
You don't need FFS btw that would be a colossal waste of money because there's nothing to modify. Would waifu as is.
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Being a tranny is the worst god damned thing you could possibly have happen. I have it "good" by tranny standards and I still fucking hate this.

How have we not all killled ourselves by now?
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>>5795114
Those damn hugboxers
how can they be avoided?
Good luck with voice training btw

>>5795122
Because I'm hoping that it will get better, albeit most likely foolishly
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>>5795122
Hope that we'll make it some day.
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>drunk and no one to talk to

atleast the alcohol kills the depression u feel me familia haha =^]
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>>5794711 #
Idk if you're still here but...
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>>5795122
we are the strongest warriors the human race has to offer to our galactic overlords
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>>5795122
imagine if you had it bad by tranny standards
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srsly tho elanna ur fun to ak yk
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>>5795134
i have to admit, you have pretty nice hair
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>>5794913
damn

>>5795104
>voice
as long as you pass, getting picky about voice is silly b/c there is so many other things to do/maintain
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>>5795084
I was always the kind awkward beta nerd boy type, and grew my hair out really long and would shave the hair on my arms and legs and such, but never was anything like a proper femboy since no matter how closely I would shave my face I'd have an extremely obvious beard shadow, in addition to frequently cutting my face in the process. So no, not really; hopefully once I get through laser I'll at least have the option of looking like a femboy for the first time since the start of puberty. I'm looking forward to being able again to rub my face against something soft and not hear and feel the stubble scratching up against it...
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>>5795134
So gross
clean your bathroom Gem
cute outfit btw

>>5795149
I'm fairly certain my voice will be the reason I pass :/
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>>5795114
alright enough with the crying anime role playing sis
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>>5795134
Adorable, but I'm sure you know that already.

>>5794913
It's like once you finally pass after the years of hard work, you realize you're just back into the shit routine of real life, which generally sucks anyway.
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>>5795134
ay familia I"m still here just drunk
You pass, jaw is just a little 2 square
id still tap it implying I wasnt in a relationship u know what im sayin
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>>5795152
How old are you?
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>>5795156
don't pick on elanna
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>>5795114
i mean maybe i'm retarded, but when watching Sense8 i didn't realise that the canon tranny played by an IRL tranny was an IRL tranny until looking her up and thinking "you know, retroactively i guess her voice was kind of off-point and kinda low or gravelly or something"

maybe you're not as bad as your ex made you out to be?
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https://youtu.be/i_kF4zLNKio
>not dating a wealthy successful black man?
This nigga seems to like traps
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>>5795159
I'll be 30 in a month... ;_; Really though I'm super lucky to not be at a worse place after waiting until 29 to start HRT, physically I haven't gotten much more masculine than I was at 20 aside from losing a bit more hair from my head (although again I'm lucky it wasn't worse given how dumb I was about not getting on this shit earlier). In any case, I feel modestly optimistic that something will work out well, even if I'm not sure what path I'll be going down...
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>>5795134
god those dumbo ears ruin it for me
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>>5795156
I agree, no more sad crying anime girls for tonight Elanna, I want you only posting anime girls crying tears of joy from here on out.
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>>5795127
>>5795128
>>5795135
>>5795139
I commend thee for certain. Just tired of all of this. It's not even remotely worth it. Should have just an hero'd to begin with. Would have been such a simpler path.
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>>5795172
kaffirs
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>>5795172
I miss remy
RIP REMY 1738
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>>5795178
>anime girls crying tears of joy
These are always cute
>tfw it will never be you

>>5795180
I'm still gonna try no matter what you say, at least then when I'm gonna kill myself I can say "Well at least I tried"
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>>5795187
I wonder if anyone will marry me...
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tfw ur gf thinks you're being cute but you really REALLY want to kill her
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>>5795180
>It's not even remotely worth it. Should have just an hero'd to begin with. Would have been such a simpler path.
i seriously know this feel sometimes... but once you find some place to settle down even if it's just for a few weeks or a few months, and/or you find someone to spend time with, it all really becomes worth the struggle to get there...

i you really, truly feel that suicide is the answer, then that's it, but second-guessing yourself can prove useful, and if this one life is all we get then you might as well make the most of it right? you get as far as you can, and if you really think that this point you've reached is the limit, then go for it...

>>5795196
>tfw also ktf
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>>5794798
Mkay thats fucked up...
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>>5795187
I wept just looking at that image.

I hope I can get married some day. Hopefully this crapshoot pans out so I don't have to sudoku instead.
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>>5795198
>tfw your gf wants to kill you
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>>5795195
>>5795203
I hope you two can get married someday
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tfw qt little gf is going to marry you and will kill you :3
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>tfw supporting your little sister
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>>5795209
Thanks, I hope you get the same ;_;
>>5795211
My sister and I had a pretty nice day, we didn't really fight and kinda connected for once.
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>>5795212
I dunno about marriage for me desu
It sounds nice in theory but I just can't see myself holding a relationship like that
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>>5795216
I want someone to be loyal and dedicate myself to and I want someone that'll do the same :< I just need to find the right person that I can spend the rest of my life with.
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>>5795216
>not wanting an ever-deepening soul bond

>>5795208
>tfw you want to kill your gf through physical stimulation
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>>5795198
Generally speaking, if you've hit a roadblock with no exit, then suicide is a reasonable option.

Fools would try to dissuade you from taking your own life with pointless rhetoric about potential and the future, when the reality is, if your mind cannot conceive of a path to happiness and only endless despair, regret, and work awaits, then surely you're justified to make the ultimate choice. To suggest otherwise is to damn someone to a fate worse than death, a living, waking, hell, because it 'might improve', even if it's inconceivable. A similar analogy would be to tell a blind, ugly parapalegic with no loved ones to live because their situation *might* improve due to technological advances. It's condescending, as if you're talking from a high horse, neglecting the feelings and thoughts of the one making the choice in the first place and replacing it with empty platitudes. It's ludicrous.

Kill yourself to escape if you have truly exhausted all your hope for the future.
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Suicide isn't a good option. If you're going to commit suicide, at least do something neat like run up tons of debt or something. Rob a bank. :P
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>tfw i was gonna make a stupid post but didn't because it would be a waste of time and effort
thank god i didnt shitpost
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>>5795220
yeah that's the problem for me
I dunno if I can be loyal like that and be that dedicated to them
I feel like I'll eventually get bored and drop them
I wouldn't want to put someone through that ;~;

>>5795223
I do, it's more or less me being the problem
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>>5795226
People in despair generally aren't the best at rationally evaluating if they truly have exhausted all hope or not, though.
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>>5795216
Tbh all I want from my life is to have someone that I love (who loves me) to dote on with every fiber of my being. Cute bento box lunches, hearty dinners, etc. etc.

I really wish I could have kids. Heck, I wish I were cis and lived in like, the 1950s. I mean, I basically want to be a housewife, take care of the children, take care of all the chores, make sure my husbando's needs are fufilled, and basically just being a dutiful wife.

Am I weird?.
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>>5795223
>tfw your gf has physically stimulated you so much it hurts
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>>5795242
>tfw your gf has physically stimulated you so much that your entire body buzzes in a way it never has before

>>5795226
>Kill yourself to escape if you have truly exhausted all your hope for the future.
absolutely, that's why i argue for things like compassionate euthanasia, beyond the clutching limits put on medical euthanasia as it already stands

i just think as long as you're a physically-functional being, there's usually something more you can do than you've already done... but even then, if you've truly reached your limit then that's all there is to do

it's just a hard question to answer, internally and externally, because it touches on the ineffable qualities of consciousness and existnece

>>5795237
i know this feel too senpai
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>>5795241
I dunno
I guess maybe by today's standards people would look at you strangely (even if you were cis)
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What's happenin' bishes?
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daily reminder that FFS is LITERALLY just a doctor taking a hammer to your face and shattering your bones for 40k

save some money and take a hammer to your face
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>>5795274
It's a doctor taking a hammer to your face with such precision that when you heal up you look better
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>>5795257
Ta ditt liv jävla dödsnazist.
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>>5795280
Fast är inte nazist, blir svår då :(
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>>5795285
Du är en dödsknarknazist, bögjävel.
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>tfw u think ur not tripping anymore till.u stand up to pe
NOPE
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>>5795291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZqPMROclcM

lelelelelle
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>>5795174
I'm sure you're aware of this, that all we do on 4chan is bitch at and rip on each other about labels and identities, but it really doesn't matter. Good for you for moving forward. Best of luck in the future [human person].
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>>5795305
>>5795291
oops, glömde trip. vill du köpa dödsknark i sthlm så är det bara att säga till.
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If I lose surgery date, how do I not kill myself? I have fought too long for this...
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>tfw real tranny music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab_J5SnQIA0
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Lies and slander.
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>>5795308
Bor i Småland :(
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>>5795319
Vafan, inte så långt ju, men vad vet jag... Jag är en filthy 08:a. :( Känner jag dig förresten?
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>>5795241
>in a car with some friends on the way back from getting dinner
>one friend's girlfriend asks another friend (that I kind of maybe have something of a crush on) if he and his girlfriend have talked about whether they want kids or not
>he says that she does eventually way down the line, but that he doesn't since he doesn't want to have to spend time helping to raise them instead of more interesting things
>somehow manage to restrain myself from saying "I could take care of them for you"
Geez, I didn't even think I wanted kids; I mean, I still don't want biological children (not that I could at this point) because I know what kinds of mental illnesses have run in my family (not even talking about trans stuff here, more suicidal depression and lingering dementia), but here I am now kind of half-wishing that I could somehow get group-married to my best friend and his girlfriend and help raise their kids like I was one of the parents. I think the hormones are messing with my head. ;_;
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>>5795323
>Känner jag dig förresten?
Svar nej.
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>>5795318
I have some improving to do
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>>5795330
Häpp, vem är du då?
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>>5795307
Thank you, Anonymous; I'll try my best to try my best.
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>>5795239
the effects of aging slow down exponentially after the end of puberty at 15 or 17 so there isn't much difference between 5 or 10 years as long as you take care of your body
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>>5795332
En ful transbög från Småland!

Är du här för att hitta feminina penisar?
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>>5795331
>justin beiber
i-i hate to admit it but i can see it
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>>5795345
>Är du här för att hitta feminina penisar?

all day every day 420chaseit osv. nää, tror aldrig jag flirtat med någon här lel
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I used two pictures that were basically the same i took just now lol
>>5795346
What? Are you talking about me? No wayyyyy
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>>5795351
Varför är du här då?

Bara massa skitbrevande och galna transbögar här.
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>>5795356
Dunno, hade en kompis som introducerade mig. Blev polare med ett gäng andra, blev kvar. Varför är du själv här?
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Tsuke ma tsuke ma tsuke ma tsukeru
Kawaii no tsukema tsukeru
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>>5795362
För att skitbreva och gnälla över hur hon jag är såklart.
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>>5795369
är du hon?
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>>5795345
>feminina penisar
gonna start calling my genitals this
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>>5795379
NO, ONLY SWEFAGS ALLOWED ):<
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>>5795379
That just makes you an autistic, deluded faggot instead of just the retard you are
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>>5795377
Jag tycker det, en ung hon.
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>>5795382
swedish transmen get out
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>>5795386
No, we're running this place now.

>>5795385
Tveksamt, är du ung så går ju att fixa hyfsat lätt vad jag förstått, förutsatt att du knaprar titty-skittles.
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>>5795392
lainahon isnt ftm
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>>5795392
Alltså inte så ung men hrt in nästan 3 år och jag är 23 om en månad.

Både ful och manlig atm.
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I am transitioning into a qt asian girl
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>>5795395
Bild fö fäään!

>>5795394
Who's lainahon lel
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>>5795390
some people aren't bisexual and are only sexually attracted to people of one gender? and if they are attracted to a person who then appears to become a different gender they will stop being attracted to that person?

how is this difficult to understand?

even if you consider her to just be a feminine man you can at least understand the concept of a single target sexuality right?
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yay, bought a new bag~
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>tfw your depression causes insomnia instead of oversleeping
>>5795398
iktf
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>>5795390
Her family probably just doesn't understand and that's why they think the way they do. If your gf dumps you it sounds like a matter of attraction. You might be "too feminine" for her to be attracted to you. I doubt it's personal, I wouldn't call her a hypocrite. That's how I'd make sense of the whole ordeal anyway. I don't think it was her place to tell her family, that would be hypocritical.
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driving down the freeway right now is like I'm fucking playing Yume nikki

mado help
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>>5795366
So are you a boy on skittles now?
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>>5795404
dumb ass
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>>5795399
Too many spooky people here.
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I've never heard of any of these people.
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>>5795216
You will when you find the right one
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>>5795399
its the bitch youre talking to
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I tried that blinq thing and it seemed to be female most of the time, and Hmm.. nearly all of the time. Yay I'm an ugly girl!
Goodnight everyone!
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>>5795410
..... O.o
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>>5795417
Ugly girls unite
Good night Grace

>>5795414
We'll see
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>>5795420
poop on ur mom kid...lol..

.
......

.......
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>>5795407
I guess!
I don't know what I am!
I just miss being a fem boy I guess
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>>5795425
DUDE WHAT THE FUCK?!?!? THAT'S FUCKING GROSS I'M OUT I'M DONE BYE 4CHAN FOREVER

FUCK
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>>5795401
thats cute but

are you a child?
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>>5795429
DUDE STOP BULLYING PEOPLE WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU WEED MAKES YOU INTO A FUCKING PSYCHOPATH
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>>5795415
oh.

>>5795412
ruh-roh, vad göra
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>>5795428
oka sea yu yomrorow eliit... :^()
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>>5795435
pull up in a monster


how much dxm did you do
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>>5795429
noo, it's a japanese brand so i guess that explains it all.
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>>5795432
I'll bully your fucking asshole lol
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>>5795440
WHAT THE FUCK ?!?!?????!!!/???????? POLICE
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>>5795426
You don't really need to declare being trans if you aren't. (other then for medical help)
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