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Previous thread >>5441770
>yuri
BOYS
>>5443912
it was more of being frustrated with myself that set me off crying
i'm not at my ideal weight yet, i'm still hairy, i'm not as far in with my transition to feel comfortable enough dating people, it's all these things combined more than just general loneliness and i'm just so impatient for changes to happen
like i'm ready mentally for a relationship but physically i'm not where i want to be
>>5443921
thank goodness!!
>>5443921
>yuri edition
>>5443903
B-but what if you're the same anon and you're just trying to ruse me into chasing you ;~;
>>5443913
O-oh, what kind of mixed signals?
>>5443937
>tfw I will never lick Bexe's navel
Its a very specific feel.
>>5443930
Yea iktf. Probably lots of people here do. Just gotta deal with it and shit. Idk. Idk!
>>5443942
chase me twice
>>5443942
There's no way I can prove that.
Would it be so bad? Chasing me either way?
>>5443942
Chase me, then you'll be chasing someone you know of
I have eaten just way too fucking much over the last 3 days. Ugh I feel like shit.
>>5443951
yea i guess i don't have much of a choice
hopefully by next winter i'll have a qt to snuggle in bed with
>>5443965
I think u will have had at least a couple bfs by next winter tbqh
>>5443965
I was talking to my ex today and she was like "my expectation is that you'll be full time by a year on hormones" and i was like "yeaaaa". So apparently a year from mones start is the expectation.
>tfw no gf on christmas
>tfw dropping hints like mad to my crush and she's oblivious as fuck.
>tfw she keeps asking me if her work pants are too tight and if her ass looks weird
I can't tell if she just doesn't know or is straight up fucking with me.
>>5443965
>tfw Kiwi will never look your way.
>>5443975
i wish, i'm still too chubby, i need to get down to like 110lbs and get super tan in the summer desu
>>5443979
yea but a year is such a looong time ;~; if only i started when i got these feelings in the first place instead of being too scared i'd already be like 5 years on hormones by now
>>5443946
>tfw nobody to hold and press into my body
>>5443987
i don't know who you are, pls anon you're driving me crazy
>>5443990
Same senpai. Guess you should go find a fairy wish prince and shit
>>5443991
>tfw nobody to sit on my face for an hour
>>5443988
It's ok
I just want to feel wanted that's all
>>5443991
>tfw
;~;
>>5443988
I saw Edmonton's weather today and I don't understand how anyone lives there. I'm glad I don't, sad that you do.
>>5443992
>tfw Kiwi hates you because you're anon refuses to accept my love.
Why is Akiba Strip such a crap sale? I want to play it but 20 bux doesnt seem worth it.
>>5444001
how do i know you're not the same anon that bullies me
I'm looking at steam sales and I kind of want to buy Agarest Generations of War, but its the most japanese weeaboo game there is. Is it perpetuating stereotypes if I sit alone in my room and play videogames?
>>5443990
It is buns
>>5444000
I'm sure it's not that bad if you have a certain elanna to keep you warm
>>5444008
is it a stereotype if nobody sees u do it???
>>5444006
I would never do such a thing Kiwi ;_;
>>5444014
but I'll know that im doing it and feel guilty, this is the problem
>>5444012
i thought buns hates me or something
there's a few people who hate me that i've never even really talked to
>>5444018
Just use the archive on her images bro.
>>5443998
saved
>>5444018
I'm not Buns. I dont even know who that is. Why do you hate me so much Kiwi!
>>5444022
>bro
not cool, dude
also spending time in the archive found this anon hits on everyone, i thought i was special, oh well
>>5444031
>dude
Not cool, man.
>>5444031
I don't want to be sarcastic but.... you're surprised that there are sad angry people on mtfg who lash out at everyone around them?
>>5444031
I can only be ignored by you so much Kiwi. You cant have it both ways! ;_;
>>5444038
>man
not cool, kek
>>5444039
i'm not surprised, but i just never let out my own frustrations on other people so i find it hard to understand that mindset
>>5444040
well now i'm gonna ignore you all the time tbhnst
>>5443921
Merry christmas /mtfg/
I was feeling really dysphoric today, maybe drinking my sorrows away will surely help.
>>5444049
alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of lifes problems!
>>5444046
Thats fine. You're a little too cold hearted for my tastes anyway. I was just trying to be nice to you.
>>5444055
If you're that desperate for attention you can just go on omegle and pretend to be a girl you know
>>5443960
Uk what they say, chase me once shame on you, chase me twice mutual penis touching
>>5444057
> pretend to be a girl
ouch
>>5444057
Someone have a bad Christmas?
>>5444055
i'm only cold hearted to people who are cold hearted themselves
>>5444066
lots of strained awkward conversations with relatives where they try to dance around you transitioning then talk about it behind your back, you know the usual...
>tfw worst christmas ever
>>5444071
They dont talk about it behind your back when you pass.
I dont like trans lesbians. They are creepy and hon-ish in real life too.
>>5444074
>They dont talk about it behind your back
You're adorable
>>5444068
Doesnt apply. You wont have this anons back when people start endlessly accusing you of rape or anything anymore.
>>5444077
>when you pass.
Mainly just conversations about how beautiful I look and if I'm actually the person they once knew.
>>5444079
it doesn't make a difference when you're the one doing it
anons are all anons and i can put my filter on whenever i want and they can shit up the thread on their own
>>5444076
Hey now, just because I'm a creepy hon trans lesbian doesn't mean all of us are.
>>>mother was bawling about me dating a trans girl after meeting her on christmas
>have to hide her reaction from my gf so she doewnt feel bad
Tfw
>>5444081
protip: if they're still talking about how you looked before you transitioned, they're not actually complementing you...
>>5444076
>transbians
most here are just bi
>>5444088
bi and willing to flirt with anyone who wonders by, checking in
>>5444082
Now you're blaming it all on me. Wow. Whens someones a bitch they're a bitch. I'm glad you're showing your truer colors. What a shame.
>>5444088
whcih board are you browsing? There's lots of transgirls on /lgbt/ who say they're exclusively attracted to other cis and transgirls
>>5444087
>putting your own words in while you try desperately to read between the lines.
Sorry you don't pass, friend. You will know this feeling one day if you put effort in.
>>5444093
if you wanted to get to know me you should have gotten a trip, i wasn't going to go along with an anon's shenanigans for very long
as far as i know you could be every single anon here, so don't blame me for protecting myself
>>5444076
I just dont like all the yuri spamming
And really thats just because yuri spamming is girls kissing usually and i just hate sex in general, so i dont like seeing people spam it.
Idk.
>>5444095
idk if it's like that ... it's more like if u like both coffee and tea
someone offers u a drink and asks "would u like coffee or tea?" and u answer depending on ur mood I guess
but if the question is "would u like coffee or tea??? and oh btw the coffee we have here tastes really bad like drainwater and will give u cancer" then it's obvious which one to choose
>tfw going swimming today
YaY for bikinis
>>5444119
You can wear a bikini?
;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;_;
>>5444120
yeah
everyone can
you put one on
and bam you wear one
>tfw entire reason for living is gone
>>5444124
Where did it go? What was it? TALK TO ME BEXE.
>>5444122
Yea but!
Oh yea, you grew big boobs.
And got srs.
And hips.
UGHHH LILY
>>5444124
cheer up bexe
life gets better!
>tfw shy, awkward friend keeps getting crushed on
>tfw no one likes me
>>5444132
Try being more shy and awkward.
>>5444127
Idk tits and hips ain't needed
an I wore one pre op too
>>5444126
>>5444128
she's gone and life doesn't get better
>>5444136
You're honestly insane. I'm 7 months and I'm not full time at all and you were dressing out in public pre mones. How the fuck.
>>5444140
Just do it? You look good enough you could easily pass more often than not.
The hard part is giving few enough fucks.
>>5444132
i like you kuppy! you're my bestest friend!
>>5444138
it gets better, trust me! bexe!!
>>5444085
You're a good bf and/or gf.
>>5444124
Im sorry about your steam account
>>5444140
by just doing it
honestly my understanding of how passing works changed a lot due to it
>>5444144
I meant in a romantic way
No one ever has and I feel so undesirable
>>5444110
Kissing is sex?
>>5444144
it doesn't get better
i had what i needed and it's gone
>>5444150
>people exist that need to read that
>>5444143
But my job? My family? Everyone i know just isnt ready for any of that.
And my hair is a mess and i dont know makeup very well yet and i still feel gairy and broad shouldered and my boobs arent very big and i dont have a lot of good clothes and i havent had laser yet...idk.
>>5444147
Lily idgi. Teach me senpai itachi
>>5444150
No but its pervy and grosses me out. Idk. It all has to feel romantic to me.
>>5444157
idk you literally just do it
start with grilvoice and andro clothing
see how it goes
when people gender you male or female
adjust your voice
and slowly work your way towards more grilly clothes
>>5444157
It's always easy to come up with reasons not do so something. The trick is asking yourself "do these negatives outweigh the positives I would get"
>>5444157
How can you possibly have that opinion of sex? Im genuinely curious if this is autism.
>>5444169
You sound naive honestly. The amount of gay guys I've met who will happily let me suck their dick but won't kiss me because it's "gross" is insane
>>5444152
Talk to me Bexu. Whats gone? ;~;
>>5444169
Sex grosses me out because i can't imagine myself doing sex stuff without getting depressed, probably because of genital dysphoria. Its gotten to.the point any intercourse, especially any sort of relationship without a storied romance behind it, totally disgusts me. I don't ever wanna have sex again.
>>5444161
>>5444160
Shit shit shit
I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna feel really bad about myself aren't i
>>5444157
quick addendum before I go
>make up
I never wear any
>shoulders
broad for a lot of cis females too
> hairy
shave
>>5444171
Im sorry to break this to you but it might just be your face.
And why are you blowing gay men. If youre trans and blowing a gay guy that perfectly explains why they wouldnt want to kiss you. Also, gay men are a tiny fraction of the population. And I said sex not kissing. So much what.
>>5444176
Sometimes you have to feel really bad about yourself in order to feel really good about yourself.
>>5444179
grow up, i've been a gay man and trans at different points of my life, im not ashamed of that
>>5444183
>grow up
Ive literally never met anyone outside of 3rd grade that thought kissing was gross.
>>5444177
>no makeup
Right but i dont wanna be butch, and pronlem coulsnt get away with it without being tagged as masculine. I wanna be like...a normal girl i guess. Dresses and stuff. Makeup is sorta...idk...
>shoulders
Most cis girls have like 15 inch wide shoulders at the most. I'm at 17 inches. Its my most masculine feature, easiest for identifying, besides my large feet.
>shave
I do! Every day! But nothing stops facial shadow and I'm ruining my skin.
UGHHHH
>>5444190
you're either sheltered or the entire world conforms to your beliefs about sex, which do you think is more likely?
>>5444192
I know for a fact Im not sheltered. I literally think you might just be ugly.
>>5444192
And to answer your stupid question, yes, i think the vast majority of people like kissing. That doesnt seem unlikely.
kissing is really romantic imho
holding hands is just outright pornography tho
Bexe pls ;~;
>>5444191
what's the rush? just do it at your own pace
>>5444183
Trip on booger
>>5444198
I uh... I kissed my brother when I was like 11 and he was ten
thats all the kissing I've ever done and like.. if I was to date a girl I could handle kissing (a-and hand holding) I think
>>5444207
But then i wont do it. I need to force myself out there. I think i need an opportunity. Or something, idk.
>>5444191
going to have to accept your body otherwise you are never going to find peace
>>5444217
yeh, but don't try and over whelm yourself like you sounded earlier
>>5444018
I dont and have no reason to hate you Kiwi. I didnt even hate you when I was better friends with Cheska.
>>5444005 Was my last post before going and playing Elite Dangerous for a bit so it looks like I missed the chance to defend my honor. And I only ever flirt with Bexe anyway.
g'n thread
hope everyone stays well and that i see you all tomorrow
>>5444217
Spending your time waiting for other people to give you opportunities to do things is a bad way to live your life in general. If you want something to happen you need to go out and do it for yourself
>>5444234
Bye Kiwi
>>5444239
So i should start dressing up when i go out?
I'm just...worried my family will be weirded out or disgusted by seeing me. I'm out to everyone, everyone's fine with it but i feel like they arent ready.
>>5444247
you need to push yourself slowly into situations where you are uncomfortable so that you slowly are more and more relaxed in them.
Be realistic, if you want to pass full time you're going to have to go out dressed full time at some point. Why not make small steps now instead of waiting your whole life for the perfect moment which never comes? It's not like your family is going to ask you to model womens clothing for them.
I'm not saying walk out the door tomorrow in lipstick and stilleto's but small steps
>>5444247
that's impressive, I feel like I can never be out to my family and work
>>5444233
>anyone flirting with me ever
i just don't understand
>>5444256
show them your boobs, works for me
>>5444250
So whats a small step
>>5444262
That depends on what you call feminine. Some thing's I've tried are adding a small piece of jewelry or an accessory like a belt which would normally be womens, buying womens jeans, wearing andrgynous tanks that could be mens or womens (I might be still working on this myself so any ideas would be lovely...), basically just change 1 or 2 small bits of your outfits to be more feminine, add more as time goes on
>>5444258
Very few people are that desperate.
>>5444266
oddish is unfortunately a burly Montana mountain man.
>>5444270
im not exactly cinderella either, I'm not going to turn into her by sitting around and doing though am I?
>>5444270
>Very few people are that desperate.
i know, it's fine
i already lost everything
>>5444270
>Very few people are that desperate.
This is mtfg, desperation for physical contact is our middle name, its right next to generalied anxiety disorders
>>5444276
I know that and I applaud your efforts anon but this is bexe we are talking about. In the dictionary, by the definition of a loser, there is his picture for a reason.
>>5444286
you're still working right?
>>5444291
not sure if your just being jokingly sarcastic or actually nasty
>>5444292
yeah
>when you get caught on christmas day stuffing sleeping pills down your throat and spend the night in hospital after getting your stomach pumped
>>5444303
all the guys ive pulled who are just as emotionally broken as I am disagree with you about the desperate thing
Hey Ladies, I found this list of famous cis tall woman as motivation for those of us over 5,10.
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000300811/
>tfw going shopping with my 2 sisters tomorrow with all of our giftcards
I can finally buy myself my own pair of climbing shoes and a harness too from all the money relatives gave me. Im super pumped because I've been wanting to get back into climbing just haven't been able to afford it until now.
>>5444302
y u do dis anon
>>5444291
>calling someone a loser on 4ch
kinda pointless
>>5444305
I always forget to preface it with the normal qualifier. No one normal likes limpet mines.
>>5444306
Maybe you should find a list of celebs with huge man-hands.
>>5444309
I got tired of fighting it, there's no point deluding myself with the notion that the missing link could even look remotely feminine. but now I just feel fucking stupid because I failed to do it
>>5444310
Come now, some people here have it far more together than others. Some people here have jobs, going through education, doing something with their lives.
>>5444311
I think most of us gave up on normal a long time ago
>>5444314
most people are fairly aware that taking a bunch of pills won't actually kill you and will just end up in a hospital visit, are you sure it wasn't a cry for help as you're hurting emotionally and you don't know how to express your problems to your family?
>>5444256
Because you're a qt.
>>5444318
What does that mean? You have decided to settle for "emotionally broken", losers and trannies in training (aka chasers)? You have decided to settle for less?
>>5444198
it really is : 3 the world needs more hand holding, doesn't matter that its like s-super lewd >.>
I think I've finally come to terms with the fact that I won't pass unless I get surgery.
So now, I just need to start saving up money I guess.
Is it a good idea to do multiple parts of your face at once? Or is it safer to do parts individually?
I'll need work done on my brow, nose, and jaw.
>>5444321
I did, its usually a cry for help depending on what you take, no one heard my cry for help so I just got worse afterwards..
>>5444321
>another choir of lies in an attempt to keep me alive
why would I want their attention, I had a handful of valium I scored from a friends dealer
>>5444329
goddamit lilly post handholding porn now!!!
hi
>>5444341
hullo theres an anon replying to every comment with mean things and im scared
>>5444342
And you think Rumy is going to protect you?
>>5444342
this thread is quite tame tbqh
>>5444346
ya it died
>>5444337
That makes sense in some ways, but it also feels like putting all your eggs into one basket. Like, if the surgeon turns out to not be as good as you hoped, you've got a whole face messed up instead of just a part of it.
Also, I feel like it'd be easier for family/friends to accept your changes if you do them gradually.
But yeah, I guess in terms of cost and time, doing it all at once is prob the most efficient...
>>5444348
no hungover shitposting for me then :~:
>>5444349
uh I wouldnt go through with any surgery unless I was really really confident the surgeon was good, its your face, you don't want any of it messed up. There's only a few surgeons who specialise in facial fem surgery though, I think they're based in Thailand and are really famous so you can kind of trust them?
Pheeeh finally home.
Gah gained like half a kilo during the past 3 days and now i look just awful and tired.
Better get to bed for hours to not become a cranky meanie that looks like honeybooboos mom but tranny version.
Uuuugh!
How is everyone else feeling like the day after xmas :9?
>>5444354
a few people from here have gone to Dr. Bart and hes based in yurop i think
>>5444355
christmas eating actually went really well, someone here gave me the advice of pick one thing and moderate portions. Don't try the turkey, and the ham, and the pie and the and so on.. decide on one thing you're having and have one reasonable sized plate of it then stop. Do the same thing for desert. I've managed to avoid that horrible bloat I normally get until new years
>>5444359
they would know way more about it than me, I'm just spit balling
>>5444360
Good for you.
Why did no one stop me. Uuuuuuuaaaah :"D
>>5444359
I think there are some differences in tech they use for different parts ... I think bart does pretty bad chins and noses desu
dr z does okay chins afaik, spiegel does p good forehead and all round, but sometimes he messes up, dr miaggo gets good reviews, bart is cheap and does ok foreheads and trachea shave ... honestly idk but I think if u really want the best results then try a 2 step ffs w/ diff surgeons ... and probs mebbe find a rhinoplasty specialist for nose
dr z has a clinic that houses other stuff too, so offers like 30 hours electro in 2 days, also hair transplant, bart offers electro too but less and spread out so u have to go back like 8 hours each time
So I recently measured myself, being barely under 6 foot.
Apparently I am predicted to grow to 6'1-3" by the age of 21
Will hormones halt this growth?
>>5444402
this is reeeaaaally old, but illustrates the argument desu, hormones are a signalling system that isn't instant or complete so ymmv
some ppl lose height in their 20s whether on hrt or not but 18-20 reaches peak bone density or w/e
>>5444198
Kissing and handholidng are both nice things to do, my entire friendship group is really physically affectionate with each other and we all kiss and are constantly holding hands. Comfy life.
>>5444402
They might, depends how old you are now and if youre lucky. So much of hormones is just completely up to chance and genetics.
>>5444404
So you're saying I'm still gonna get taller no matter what?
>>5444402
>not wanting to be a member of the leggy tall girl masterrace
>>5444394
imo bart lower face work is fine but fucks up alot on the nose also dr z doesn't do type 3
>>5444408
I don't want to be too tall
I just want to stay under 6 foot.
>>5444411
Tfw will never be a 5'4" qt
>>5444411
well if osteo is common on hormones id at least like to have my feet get smaller, my feet are a size 10 mens (UK) :~:
>>5444413
;~;
Don't give me those feels
I've almost gotten over my height hatred
>>5444415
My feet are apparently size 9 womens (US)
Is that big, small or medium?
>>5444418
Your feet are about an inch smaller than mine and i think my feet are average for my height and i dont think you're that much shorter than me (im 187cm)
>>5444191
longterm goal : not be butch
but if you wanna go fulltime it's easy to start with it cause passing as butch is easy
>shoulders
look at cis girls on the street a lot have way above 15.....
>shadow
cis girls have facial hair too
quite often tbqh
>>5444420
I'm about 5 cm smaller than you
Always thought my feet were small.
>>5444422
Yeah i would say they are small, im jelly tbhon, out of everything about my body my feet and hands trigger me the most and there isnt alot you can do about them @_@
>>5444417
I think thats hella small? Im like 173cm and a size 10 womens aus.
>>5444407
possibly, or it wont be noticeable, there is no real data but mebbe instead of growing 2" u will grow half an inch idk ... height change occurs quicker thru soft tissue and cartilage changes, water between spine disks, things like this ... so weight changes, diet, aging and such things have a bigger impact on height
like I said tho, many ppl shrink in their 20s and a little each few years
>>5444405
tfw no kiss and cuddles ;~;
>>5444409
yeh true about z, but I can't find any pics by bart that show actually nice looking chin work desu ... he also makes bone incision which has risk of longterm or permanent numbness, while z burrs away the bone instead and seems to get round chins, I don't like z's pig noses or eyebrow lifts much tho
>>5444421
Beard shadow is just too inviting and cute a name for it. Is there a more compact way to say "oppressive darkness between the stars"?
>>5444426
Yeah i lucked out on the rest, my body is slender as fuck
>>5444429
Shiet nigga, it's just some facial hair, not an Elder God.
>>5444428
I don't think people need bone incision unless the problem with the chin is the height, but it really does sucks that there isn't a whole lot of aggressive surgeons
>>5444426
I got both the huge shoulders and huge feet
At least my hands are ok sized ;;
>>5444437
well u don't want aggressive in some places ... like chin u don't want it much cos it can mess u up for life desu
z's chin tech is like barts trachea tech in terms of safety and also results
I rather have minor changes and a working face than some ppl on pain meds for the rest of their life >.<;;
>>5444439
diet and exercise kuppy and u can have the same
>>5444439
I don't think I do at all but lots of people have told me i do so maybe!
>>5444437
You could hit up some surgeons in Worst Korea. You'll probably end up looking mildly asian by the end of it tho.
>>5444442
I didn't know boozing is considered a from of exercise.
>>5444446
this is the only time of the year i drink m8 and im back at work today so no more boozing
>27
>feminine face
>5'10"
>155
>meh shoulders
>waited too long
>receding hairline
kill myself lgbt?
>>5444449
Nah, get on hrt and post butt!
>>5444449
Transition and live a happy life you sound fine
>>5444449
You'll almost certainly get back some of your hairline on HRT, tbqh.
>>5444458
Can you trust /r/transpassing?
>>5444461
I don't think so
I saw them compare a rather masculine person to a quite feminine celebrity.
>>5444464
So basically the only opinions you should trust should be by people who don't want anything to do with trannies.
>>5444452
supervisor at a store, shit job but it buys me my clothes/makeup and stuff so i cant complain really
>>5444449
Please don't! Just lose more weight. Look into hairline makeup it's amazing and help me co-op till hair transplants.
>>5444467
Working in retail is a pretty good excuse to start boozing.
>>5444461
lol of course not! They are keep saying I pass while I don't.
>>5444471
idk its pretty chill honestly
Good morning
>>5444461
That's why you post in sub reddits where people don't know you're trans
>>5444478
honk
>>5444436
> posts a picture of a writhing mass of thick tendrils dragging a man's head into its bulk
Way to make it look less like an elder god.
first electrolysis appointment in 4 hours, does this make me a real tranny now?
>>5444553
No fuck off and kill yourself
>>5444565
I meant, the paranoia of suspecting people are hugboxing
>>5444565
Don't encourage him man.
>>5444566
yeah but u learn pretty quick if that's the case irl cus not everyone is gonna hugbox if u don't actually pass
and kids are like the best measure cus they're curious and learning so they ask questions when they're unsure about something and they lack a lot of the social politeness bs that people learn over time and filter their interactions with
>>5444567
I'll encourage whoeves I want thankuverymuch
>>5444515
You make it sound like being a tranny is being a part of the Mythos.
Like there is a small Massachusetts town full of trannies.
>>5444566
Of course people are hugboxing. You have to tell the difference between the creepy hugboxers who want to get their dick wet (or yours) and people who just don't want to hurt you by enumerating the many, many things that make it hard for you to pass.
>>5444580
>is a small Massachusetts town full of trannies
it's more like some ancient ruins under a mansion where u can here the faint >tfwnobf through the walls
>>5444583
Cursed to never be little girls.
>>5444583
>faint >tfwnobf through the walls
kek, I bet that's the sound people can here emanating from my room
>>5444553
Better have some emla cream
>>5444012
Yes, yes it is but ask yourself do you care
>>5444596
caddy suggested aloe gel
>>5444604
Whatever makes it more comfortable
geez, when u think about trannies rlly could be subbed into a lot of mythos stories
grotesque art that turns out to be from a real-life model...
crazy people pushing the limit of how science can change and control a human body...
>>5444604
that reminds me I gotta propagate my aloe plants
but for electrolysis u should ask the person u do it with, like mine told me to use just witchhazel and not use anything with like oil or stuff that could get into the skin for a few days around my appointments
>>5444636
Well then I just have to ask the tech every question I can think of. I have super sensitive skin so I need to get this right because I don't want to scar
>>5444642
u should do that every time u get a procedure or treatment of any type done, if u don't advocate your own care and treatment quality then who will? and u can't rlly do that if u don't understand what's going on
but yeah like every appointment my person talks about how sensitive my skin is but it's gone smoothly so far and she uses like gold probes and stuff to improve quality
the first time they may have u try different types off stuff on each side of ur face to figure out what works best for u
what made you guys get the courage to take show yourself to your family? like if im gonna take hormones i would isolate myself from everyone
>>5444666
I just stopped caring
>>5444666
well like, I figured if they rlly cared about me they'd try to understand and accept me, and like if ur already about to isolate urself and willing lose them then it's not much different if u tell them and lose them but they might be more accepting than u expect
>>5444666
between the catcalling, shit talking, and creepy flirting i recieve fucking EVERYWHERE, my mom sighing in disappointment is the least of my problems.
pardon the phrase, but man the fuck up
>>5444686
i have been thinking about this for a long time
if i just get the courage to do it, and if they reject me. i will isolate myself from them. and maybe if i do it long enough they will feel bad about it. or if they dont then thats fine too. atleast they would understand why.
but still they would never expect this from me , i always keep my mask on etc
>>5444666
I just look like a man anyway so doesn't matter to them.
>>5444693
yeah tbqh my mother didn't take it super perfectly at first, like nothing rlly bad but worried about me and I kinda cut contact for awhile while away at uni... and then when we started to talk more again she really tried to do her best
>>5444666
You know what, Satan?
I don't have the courage to do that
I was barely able to come out to my parents and after that it was a simple matter of telling them hrt is the only treatment
I plan to take my skittles for the next few years until I finish uni, move the fuck away from here, then I'll worry about girl mode
>>5444666
nice trips. and i look like a man thathas absurdly high t levels, so everything was like normal.
hello
If you guys are too scared to come out to your mommy, you're just too soft to be trans.
Enjoy your anime avatars.
>>5444666
I was kind of forced to come out to them after a pretty big breakdown I had, I wish they still didn't know or had rejected me because I'm so worried about letting them down by looking like a hon
>>5444748
Can we not?
>>5444764
sorry, you're right. i'll go now.
