I don't want to be a transgirl, I want to be a real girl. I'm nearly 21 and it's way too late for me to transition and pass 100%.
I'm tempted to just go on HRT to a get a more feminine body and get boobs removed and be a sub gay man with a fem body with a functionless dick.
If I regret it I'll probably just kill myself a bit later than what I would have if I transitioned and been an ugly transgirl.
worth or nah?
Absolutely worth it.
I lowered my goals, and now just take hrt. It's better than becoming more and more masculine as we get older.
>>5400979
how long have you been on hrt and when did you start?
>>5400969
Transitioning is about living as the sex you feel is the real you. If you feel you're a girl then how the hell will being a femboy make you feel complete? Two different things. This is not all a beauty contest. The ugly chick from Maine always wins those anyway.
>>5400996
because being a femboy is 100x better than being the average masculine guy.
No this isn't a beauty contest it's about me wanting to be comfortable in my own body. Being more feminine will make me feel more comfortable in my own body.
>>5400991
5 years. Started at 22. I've also had laser and electro.
>>5401080
what changes have you noticed after 5 years on hrt?
>>5401121
Softer skin, haven't gone bald, haven't gotten hairier, a lot less upper body muscle mass, i look silly in my old shirts, fuller lips, brighter eyes, more fat around my thighs, it's a little more difficult to find good fitting jeans now, my old ones definitely don't fit anymore but i'm the same weight, a cup breasts, don't sweat as much and it smells different, hardons are very rare and never spontaneous. It's pretty good, desu.
>I don't want to be a transgirl, I want to be a real girl.
You think trans girls want to be trans girls?
>>5400969
>I'm nearly 21 and it's way too late for me
>21
Unless you're the pinnacle of masculinity it's not too late, no where near in fact. And, even if you're the pinnacle of masculinity it's not too late, just gonna take longer and require more things.
>>5401160
There's plenty of dipshit sjw's who are loud enough that they make it seem that way.
>trans pride!
>accept your testosterone deformed body! women come in many shapes and sizes!
>>5401171
Mate, those people are either assholes or retards and you shouldn't pay attention to the opinions of assholes and retards.
>>5400996
lol where do you think you are
lol get outta hear with yur "sound logical advice" bullshit lol
>>5401180
Really? Yes, they are assholes, but ignoring them doesn't help us. They're the ones getting news coverage, and coming to college campuses to "educate" people on gender identity. They are the ones controlling the message in social work, counselling, and psychology departments. And nobody calls them out on their crazy, and naive, impressionable well-meaning young people think they've been enlightened.
>>5400969
I know this is bait, but there are plenty of people who transition before their 20s and look like fucking hons anyways. It's not the age that matters (to some extent, if you transition after your 40s you are fucked), genetics are a lot more important.
>>5400969
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IqjIXfXYDQ
so gud
>>5400969
You might still pass. I'm 23 and on the fence about whether I will or not. Post jaw
>functionless dick.
Never happened to femgen. They seem happy enough
I don't know what to do either. I'm still pretty closeted around some people. Especially family. I don't know if I feel I was born wrong. But I want to pass as a girl. I want to wear the clothes and look natural in them, I think I look slightly better with my penises tucked, but also odd.
I want hrt, and ffs, and laser my face, and live full time as a girl. But Is it OK to believe it's more mental illness than some spiritual shit? I'm flippant and go from boy mode to girl mode like every month, and I feel like the stress of transitioning would kill me.
I'm afraid of being me. Feels bad man.
>>5401409
I'm in the same boat anon. Feel like my family and a couple of my closest mates would eternally shun me for it, but I also feel like I'd fucking regret not doing transitioning by age 30.
Dunno what to fucking do. I feel like a chickenshit coward.
>>5401223
>people tell me i pass on 4chin from honest angles and lighting
>work at customer service
>get sirs rarely. Even more often if i forget my nametag (girlname)
>people give weird glances at my nametag
>one creepy fat spic manlet outright said "is that your real name? Or a name you like to use?"
Welp
>>5401296
can confirm function while on HRT for 4 months now
still look like a dude though, except for some angles
>>5401223
Except 21 isn't close to the end for a decent transition. The problem is everyone on this board wants to look like a perfect 10/10 cartoon girl. There are 4/10 chicks with wide shoulders who still manage to live life as womyn with their vaginas. You all are obsessing over crazy beauty standards. Is it that you enjoy being a victim? Do you need the impossible goal for maximum pity? Shiggity tap dancing shoggoth. It's a good thing you confused fem bishes are hot or I wouldn't even bother.
>>5401206
Right, mate. I forgot.
>>5401513
I'm not talking about being pretty. This has nothing to do with beauty standards. I'm talking about looking like a woman vs not looking like a woman. You can be attractive and not look like a woman.
>>5400969
> I don't want to be a transgirl, I want to be a real girl.
Not currently possible. You need to come to terms with the fact that you might be waiting anywhere between 20 to 100 years for this. Also, girls have shitty lives too.
>>5401552
>Not currently possible.
well duh thats why I said I should just become a femboy
>>5400996
sex isn't binary, lol
>>5401171
The worst.
>learn to love yourself!
Loving myself isn't going to correct my fucking genitalia.
>>5401558
Well that would definitely help preserve your body state, making it easier to do a full transition once it becomes possible.
>>5400969
>I don't want to be a transgirl, I want to be a real girl.
Who the fuck wants to be trans?
>>5401513
It is when each and everyone of those little things about my body revolts me. You don't get to tell me what to think about my body.
>>5401171
What other option you have? Killing yourself? Complaining about it on /lgbt/ and hoping your situation will magically change?
If not for reactionaries such as you acting like assholes over beauty, "passing" or not wouldn't even be relevant and people like the OP wouldn't fear transitioning.
It's like you retards want to suffer, seriously.
>>5401511
Post photos
>>5401604
Most of /d/
>>5401640
>>5400969
Your definition of real girl needs work. You only mentioned visible physical attribute. Social interactions, psychology, emotional development, and spirituality are also core aspects worth integrating into this. But I do understand any reluctance, those ones are considerably more difficult to pin down. Good luck!
>>5401678
Anon gave their definition of a femboy, not a 'real girl'. Read it again.
Truth time: all this feminism is making you hate yourselves. Purge the poison from your mind and be at peace.
dickgirl pride world wide
>>5401926
Did feminism become the new socialism? The good thing that became trendy to hate?
>>5401996
Both of them have the end result of reshaping capitalism into a more populist model so of course the capitalists would smash it baka
>>5401996
More like
>the good idea that was taken to an unhealthy extreme and thus became deplorable and hated
>>5401513
>Shiggity tap dancing shoggoth. It's a good thing you confused fem bishes are hot or I wouldn't even bother.
>treating /lgbt/ like a crazier 3d version of /cm/
Uh Anon...
>>5401996
>being this blind
as expected of socialists
>>5402439
I treat it like my earl-dom --being New York-- of which I am le Duc, A#1.
>>5401996
Gonna go with >>5398931. Radicals who despise lgbt and other minorities being so strong in your movment means it's more national socialist than warm and fuzzy Scandinavian social democracy.
I mean, if feminism helps lgbt, then why torpedo HERO by flooding Houston with naziesque fliers about how lgbt people are child killers coming to rape everyone children.
Kinda a good moment for seeing who's your friends if you ask me.
>>5401624
>If not for reactionaries such as you acting like assholes over beauty, "passing" or not wouldn't even be relevant and people like the OP wouldn't fear transitioning.
You should fear transitioning though, it could end up ruining your life if it doesn't work out.
>>5401624
>If not for reactionaries such as you acting like assholes over beauty, "passing" or not wouldn't even be relevant and people like the OP wouldn't fear transitioning.
Passing means looking like a woman. How on Earth would that ever not be important?
>>5400969
I transitioned at 25 and pass 100% as far as I can tell. To be honst, I look back at pictures of me at 15 and realize that nothing much changed. Anything 'masculine' about me was already there. So it's not like 21 is that much worse than being in your teens.
At 21 I was still in denial and saying I wanted to be a real girl or nothing. Do you really think you'll get that opportunity in this lifetime? And if you do, why would a less perfect transition prevent you from taking it? Do you really trust that you get a second chance after this life, and you'll definitely be a girl in that life?
I thought all those stupid things. I thought you couldn't get results other than "dude in a dress." I saw freaks like that and "knew" transition wasn't for me. I knew I wanted to be a girl when I was 5 but didn't know I could actually get pretty fucking rad results. Even if I didn't get better results, if I had started earlier, I always knew "I'd at least be done by now."
tl;dr if you don't start looking into it and trying now, you will live with that regret. Admit it, you made this post because you want to be convinced to make that leap.
pic maybe related
>>5402878
Everyone think they pass, though...
>>5402885
k. I can't prove that I do. I can say I've gotten a lot of nice feedback, and I'm happy with how I've turned out. I'm vain like every woman and would tweak a lot if I could, but for what it is, it's all good enough. I guess looking at some existing trans timelines would at least prove that it's possible to get good results from transition.
I mean it would be diminish my ethos, but the things I said still hold true no matter how I look.
>>5402885
Which is a great thing if true. That is the whole damn point. It's not to pass or fail according to internet opinions. This trans lunacy is all about feeling right. So if somebody feels good about where they are then leave them be.
>28
>Only just started transitioning
>Plenty of compliments
Feels good. Gotta go all in with what you really want from life.
>>5401171
>testosterone deformed body
>>5400969
Source on gif?
>>5400969
I'm taking titty skittles, getting electrolysis, and having an orchiectomy when I have the money saved. I'm not sure if I'll pass either but this way I can know for sure. And it's not like I'll live a lie wort living if I don't do it. Try it out op. Worse comes to worse be a fem male with lots of female friends
>>5400969
>I don't want to be a transgirl
Who the fuck does?
>>5400969
Source on gif?
>>5403826
just found it browsing /b/ so i have no idea. soz.
>>5403546
Looks like Crypt of the NecroDancer.
>>5400996
>The ugly chick from Maine
who is this?
>>5401262
>genetics matters the most
you have good advice, you should listen to it
>>5404055
It'a joke. Conveying that there is no universal measure of attractiveness.
I for example, find guys that look like old jewish women hot. That's fucked up. QED.
>>5404075
for whatever reason I thought you meant nicole maines. the qt m2f from maine.
>>5404081
Naw. I'm not up on the New England ladyboy pageant circuit, tbQh.
>>5404057
<3. Keep wasting your life trolling on 4chan, anon.
>>5400969
Worth it. Started at 22. That was over 15 years ago and I'm well into the "happily ever after" phase of things. When I started, 22 was considered young, so don't worry about starting at 21.
>>5401206
>>5400996
it's not sound logical advice. it's a misconception about what transitioning is about. it's about improving the quality of life. if the person genuinely feels that socially transitioning can't achieve that but wishes to medically transition to relieve dysphoria then that is perfectly valid too.
>>5401409
>with my penises tucked
double dick guy is trans? such a shame
>>5400969
>not transitioning at 24 and passing flawlessly
>not hating yourself every day because man, if you pass this well at 24, you'd have been fucking stunning if you'd done it at 15 when you nearly worked up the courage to come out the first time.
Get on my level.
