skills edition
discuss books, classes, shooting drills and other relevant topics on how to git gud
How do these FM12 Masks compare to M50s?
I realize it's probably going to be heavier, but how much?
Wtb operator skillz
>>30105079
why do you want a mask?
>>30105123
Just because I want one. I have two M40 Masks but they're heavy as fuck
What's that cool modern mask called with a single big protective window on the face?
thoughts on this mafhk and what he's saying?
https://youtu.be/5X5misiXuNs
>>30093708
i>n late for 50 shades of green
>>30105105
beautiful paint man
>>30105123
as a civillian you are far more likely to have to deal with riot control agents then bullets. having a gas mask is a good idea.
>>30105188
This is such a fucking aesthetic setup. Dig it.
>>30105188
lets operate
>>30105185
M50
I am issued one but I would really like my own, or if I can't acquire one, an FM12
I've watched Pat Mcnamaras TAPs videos and read his combat strength book.
before that did the basic shit of watching Magpul videos and getting tips from veterans at the range. nothing fancy
>>30105249
what is the name of the company that made that mask. i remember there being this grey skull mask that was really subtle. i thought of you when i saw it but i can't fucking remember who makes it.
>>30105227
>M50
No, no that one, the one i'm thinking about has a big round window.
>>30105249
>>30105282
http://store.tripleaughtdesign.com/Nemesis-Balaclava
i found it.
In wit da gear. Hopefully gonna try out a class in the next month or so, already have my ticket just need to get dates
>>30105329
please wear that to the class and record everything.
>>30105249
what exactly do you do when you go to the range nowadays?
anything in particular like a certain number of targets, rounds used, drill times?
>>30105249
I've done the same. Pat makes some top tier videos and seems to really know his shit. I also took a carbine class with some buddies. It was basic stuff, reloading and transitioning drills, learning how to properly shoot while standing, kneeling, while leaning, and while prone. We did drawing drills as well. I want to do a more advanced course that goes over moving, how to shoot behind cover, that kind of thing, in the future. My buddies want to do one too so I'm slowly turning them into gear queers. I got my one buddy to start looking at chest rigs because he wants to go take a class.
>>30105282
mines just some chinese made one of alieexpress. TAD one looks nice but their shipping kills me and the mask is a joke for me overly.
>>30105369
22422 drills, Grids of fire, practicing off hand
shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqwCxlMkQ9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2oT3BeqVPs
>>30105400
yeah, its a shame because up in canada the amount of companies that are worthwhile is pretty small. really I'd like to sign up for a haley class sometime next year to get into more complicated things.
Is an IFAK meant for use on you if you get hit or use on someone else hit?
>>30105369
>>30105429
oh also I've gotten a PACT timer which I really recommend for anyone wanting to put some stress/urgency onto whatever their doing, whether it be drawing a handgun or doing a movement drill.
what goes into a basic ifak?
>>30105511
gloves, bandage, hemorrhage control agent like Celox, Occlusive bandage like Fox Seals, trauma shears, Tourniquet(s)
>>30105511
How basic ?
Nitrite gloves
Gauze
Pressure bandage
Tourniquets
Tape
Shears
But I mean a lot of people have chest seals and decompression needles and airways and all kinds of shit.
>>30105470
Use on yourself. If you are treating a buddy you will be using their kit, not yours. Wouldn't want to treat a buddy on the field only to get shot yourself later and not have anything for you.
I mostly use my gear for dress-up nowadays, seeing as I'm only in the field 5% of the time in this unit.
I did wear it to a convention recently, ended up giving a class on how to apply a CAT for a bunch of cosplayers.
>how to git gud
Take the stairs, lay down times, dare others to do better.
Practice magazine changes during commercials while you're watching TV.
Or just punch holes in paper in whatever way is most comfortable for you, then gradually add shit to make it less comfortable.
>>30105511
Compression bandage
Tourniquet
Gauze
Combat Gauze (if you have it, don't wipe your ass with it)
2 pairs of exam gloves
Trauma shears
>>30105535
>>30105536
>>30105550
thanks. can ya recommend a nice pouch for this stuff?
>>30105550
Nice CIA pose
>>30105565
Pretty much any decently sized general purpose pouch, preferably with elastic straps sewn inside to keep your shit straight.
>>30105565
Depends on how big or how small you want it to be. I have an hsgi bleeder Pouch. It is just big enough for a 6inch bandage two gauze packets and gloves. It has a shears sleeve on the back and I have a TQ rubber banded to the side
>>30105600
>>30105602
sweet, thanks
>>30105565
Ctoms makes a good line of medical pouches and the like.
>>30105470
Yes.
>>30105536
>>30105550
>>30105535
2" tape is damn near mandatory to stick down troublesome chest seals and is overall more useful over 1". Rolled 2/4" gauze is great for plugging a wound that can't be izzy'd and still can be removed by medics without leaving a surprise for surgeons.
Add angio needle for decomp and NP tube and lube for a compromised airway, but DO NOT use them if you have no idea how to use them. Have them on hand for people that know what the fuck they are doing.
Do not use clotting powders on wounds that are deeper than skin or a serious bleed, especially surplus gen 1 hemostatic agents because they can send clots to bad places or cause chemical burns. Stick to impregnated bandages.
Tie off bandages opposite the wound.
Fuck, that is a lot of blood shooting out of that leg/arm? TQ that shit a few inches above the wound. Write the fucking time on the TQ and "T:(time)" on the forehead for one, or high cheek for arm or low cheek for leg with multiple TQ on the same side as the TQ.
If you carry medshit greater than bainaids, tape, and gauze, better know CLS. Take a fucking class, it could mean life and limb. Now get out there and gear queer harder than a gay bodybuilder getting ready for a comp at fire island!
>how to git gud
Go outside with your shit, spend a few hours hiking, running, climbing, jumping around in it in a place that isn't completely flat, build endurance and learn how your gear works with your body in "less than ideal" positions for extended periods of time.
>>30105550
>swimmer cut plates
Do they really make that much of a difference for anything?
Quick question here regarding Gen 2 crye pants.
Why do they have the solid colored material surrounding the knee pads? Multicam pants, solid tan around the knees.
>>30106063
If you have to get your stock as close to your face as possible to get a good cheek-weld, yeah.
It only really applies if you have a tiny-ass stock with no cheek support, like a Para.
How ya been?
>>30106087
Because at the time there was no such thing as 4-way stretch Multicam material. Now there is, and the G3 combat pants have it.
>>30106087
it's a 4-way stretch fabric that I assume wasn't available in multicam when it was designed.
gen 3 pants have matching camo
If you're willing to shell out a bit for a gas mask get a bong GSR. Issued gas mask for British forces, it's actually really neat.
Also, night parka yay or nay?
>>30106149
Get the damn night parka.
It's 20 bucks and you can use it as a bathrobe.
>>30106137
>>30106144
Figured it might've been something like that.
What's the consensus on Crye pants? Are they worth buying? Not in multimeme, maybe OD or Tan.
>>30106063
Yes. Greater rage of motion and less muscle fatigue in the shoulders.
>>30106087
Those odd shapes leave more waste and compromise profit. Camo dyed cloth also tends to be less durable, depending on material and dye process.
>>30106168
>It's 20 bucks and you can use it as a bathrobe.
what
>>30106134
Ah ok.
I've been alright, still queering it up innadesert. How was NTC?
>>30105329
BUILD THAT WALL MR TRUMP
>>30106170
not really, they're I bought a pair $90 and I think they're pretty overhyped. I prefer the issue ACPs because they're comfy, fire resistant, and easier to buy at a reasonable price.
as for solid colors, I'd rather get some 5.11s or something. crye pants in solid colors just looks autistic imo
>>30106189
Apparently the Army's out of ammo, my gun had 800 rounds for all 21 days.
>>30106183
Did it get more expensive?
It comes down past your waist, enough to cover your dick when you're answering your barracks room door.
>>30106183
>night parka bathrobe
First time on /k/?
>>30106253
No, I've just never seen one in person. What's the joke?
>>30106249
>800 rounds for all 21 days
Fuck lol. Did you guys engage OPFOR often?
>>30105188
Cool it Jroc
>>30106170
I have the Crye field pant in RG. I like them. Been wearing them hiking and on the range for 3 years now and have held up well.
>>30106291
We didn't get any ammo for the 240 for force-on force, so we did shout at OPFOR a couple times.
The only times we got ammo was for the live fires, 400 per iteration, split between 2 guns.
>>30105550
tohsaka's anus...
>>30106374
Would you happen to know who shot that fucking helicopter?
>>30106480
That happened about 2 weeks after we got back to Bragg.
He did manage to add another hour to our safety brief this weekend, dick.
>>30105199
This. When I was in Galveston for Mardi Gras the cops CS gassed the Strand to clear it out. I wish I hadn't left my mask at home, so I could streak around Galveston in a gas mask in true /k/ommando fashion.
>Your move, lawman....
>>30105225
Slob/10
would not operate with
>>30105400
Can you run a mile without keeling over though?
http://www.amazon.com/Hirbawi-Premium-Keffiyeh-Palestine-Original/dp/B0185XWGIW?ie=UTF8
Is this worth it?
All the reviews I see on it are absolutely glowing, and it's allegedly Palestinian made.
>how to get gud.
Shot timer. Hands down the best tool you can have to push your par times on drill sets.
>>30106600
25 bucks for a shemagh isnt bad but
http://www.combatflipflops.com/products/cff-shemagh?variant=9916521861
could buy one from a veteran owned company and I have to say they are quite nice, I have both the white one and the Erathr3 model
>>30105188
>dat setup
Simple. Useful.
Like it.
>>30106600
You are asking about a piece of cotton cloth, Jesus Christ , how fucking pathetic are you that you'd come on a weapons forum and ask about your gay little Muslim tea towel? Yeah bro, it's a great rag, real tactical. Next you'll be asking mommy if you can go into the family room after dinner and watch TV. You want me to show you how to shake your penis after taking a piss too? Oh, I'd better go consult with /k/ first. Get fucked, faggot.
Not me but my stuff
>>30105225
>fat
>lazy
>thinks he can buy gear and 'operate'
You couldn't sprint 100ft. Fuck you gonna 'operate'???
>>30106643
Switch to decaff bro.
>>30106643
>>30105329
>this is /k/
>>30105188
Those pants/belt?
>>30106657
That nigga needs some serious corrective action. Gotta start by scrubbing his nasty ass grout, nigga gonna get an infection in his nasty ass dank moldy apartment. Nigga gotta do some curls, looking like a weak ass nigga
>>30106708
>went back to look at nasty ass appartment
>FUCKING TOOTHPASTE ON THE SHOWER RAIL
>TOOTHPASTE
baka
>>30106656
>Chest knife
>no rear sight
nothing like some memes in the evening
I've been on a few "combat conditioning" field ops, and had a few basic rifle drills for qualification
What are some good handgun marksmanship books?
>>30106675
>This wasn't for Desert Storm jokes
>>30106862
>thinking the mismatched gear is the cringe
>not the 5'4 chink manlet
>>30106856
Ben Stoeger's Dry Fire Training. It's oriented for competitive shooters but you can easily adapt the information to fit your needs.
>>30106546
Yes. When I work out I usually run 2 miles. Been out of the gym for a while because of medical reasons. Finally got the clear to go back and have been back at it for two weeks now.
>>30106374
>Dat NTC Ft Irwin Life.
Existence is suffering, battle.
>>30106888
>thinks 2 miles is fucking anything
>MUH CONDISHUNSSS
You ain't fooling anyone fatty.
You've never been in better shape, that right there is a lifetime of lazy fat fuck syndrome.
No shape.
Disgusting habits.
Faggot beard to try and hide chins.
Kill yourself.
>>30106885
>Being this angry about height
At least I'm not upset about being 5'10, did your boyfriend leave you over a few inches or something?
>>30106917
Fatty or not, I bet he could actually fireman carry or drag my ass somewhere if he needed to. Meanwhile, the 5ft 2in female PT 'stud' that throws down 300pt APFT's all day can barely walk with her own fucking rucksack.
>>30105249
what jacket?
>>30106984
https://kommandostore.com/british-army-woodland-dpm-parka-soldier-95-style/
>>30106951
>making excuses for fat fuck
>first alternative is skinny beta
>can't imagine being in shape
Keep projecting faggot
You're both disgusting.
>>30105037
What training tools do you folks use? I've got snap caps, chamber flags, and training knives, but I know some people get fancy with realistic repro laser pointer guns and shit.
>>30107302
Weights
Pullup Bar
Treadmill at the gym
>>30107378
>Treadmill at the gym
nigga Row machines are where its at.
>>30105123
So people care who he is
>>30107384
Yea but you use your legs more when operating, so running works the muscles you're gonna use when you need it.
>>30107427
Do you not know how to row?
>>30107588
Rowing does not work all the same muscles in the legs used for running. Do you even lift?
>>30107674
>>30107427
you engage more muscle groups when rowing though, which is important. do both really, but I'll do rowing over running most days
>>30107787
Or you could stop trying to make every exercise whole body and put some effort into building a balanced routine.
>>30106063
Are you still working? Will you ever trip again?
>>30105781
Reminder that one of the founders of CTOMS brought TCCC to the Canadian Forces and through his actions has probably saved more lives than most who post here.
http://privatebloggins.ca/?p=439
He was the medic on site during the Tarnak Farm incident when an American Pilot dropped a 500lbs bomb on Canadian Soldiers. He was ill-equipped and ill-trained and was unable to save them, despite experience as a civilian EMT before deployment and having brought some of his own medical supplies overseas.
CTOMS know their shit when it comes to medical training.
>>30107842
naw, the traversal of the plane of motion is important in workouts
>>30107889
[CLASSIFIED]
And probably not. I can only stand this place in small doses anymore.
>>30107904
huh shit, I just knew the one founder was in CANSOFCOM for like 20 years.
thats fucked man, I'll need to start buying there more often
>>30105249
I'd blur out my face and tattoo if I owned an airshit facemask like that to you fucking moron. May as well have written your name, address, # and ss on your arm, too.
Good .308 chest rig?
>>30107974
it's great that that mask makes autists sperg out still. 3 years and counting.
>>30105400
Jesus christ, your arms
>>30107925
Rowing has nothing to do with the transverse plane of motion. You can get that shit from well designed compound exercises.
>>30106374
That's disgusting
>>30108018
>>30108018
>You can get that shit from well designed compound exercises.
so, almost like Rowing does?
>>30107971
If you have the time, you should read the entirety of the Pte Bloggins posts. They have some really good info and tactical medicine as well as how to layout your gear really good. Every gear queer should give it a read.
Here's my favourite tactical medicine post:
http://privatebloggins.ca/?p=1026
>>30106917
Relax there Mr macho. I only do 2 miles in my workout because I only do cardio for my first 30 minutes and that's about what I run in 30 minutes. Never said 2 moles was anything amazing lol. So calm down. And no I can safely say right there is probably some of the worst shape I've ever been in. Having a hernia makes you pretty inactive. I never claimed to be swoll as fuck in the first place so I don't know what you're so upset about. Are you jsut projecting about your tiny penis or something? Relax bro.
>>30108123
The question is what do you think rowing actually gives you? Because if you think all cardio makes you equally capable of running a distance while carrying a load, you're wrong. If you need to repetitively pull an extremely light weight using your lats and legs over and over, I guess rowing is a great exercise for you.
I hope you realize these rowing machines were designed for people who actually row, because running, cycling, swimming, and other forms of cardio weren't close enough to the actual motions they needed to do. Why would you, someone who never needs to row anything, voluntarily choose to exercise with a motion you don't need, in order to get better at a motion you could have been doing instead?
I don't hate the concept2, but I definitely don't see much use for it outside of sport specific workouts.
>>30107039
>implying you aren't projecting your own insecurities fatty
>>30108229
>What do you think rowing actually gives you
"Rowing is a coordinated muscle action that involves every large muscle group in the body"
gee dunno, the benefit of working multiple muscle groups at once?
>If you need to repetitively pull an extremely light weight using your lats and legs over and over, I guess rowing is a great exercise for you.
if you're only using our lats and legs you're rowing wrong. beyond that, its about resistance not simply pulling weight, much like boxers using weights during shadow boxing or weighted vests.
obviously you should still run but I'll do that on something easier like the trails/field rather than indoors.
>>30108452
All kinds of arbitrary exercises can be made to work multiple muscle groups at once. Shooting a basketball requires multiple muscle groups, does that make it an effective fitness exercise? Swinging a golf club requires multiple muscle groups, maybe try that?
Or maybe try some indoors cardio that actually has relevance to moving under load, like lunges with a 45lb barbell.
>>30107974
>>30106546
>>30106917
>>30107039
The fuck is your problem?
>>30107943
We should all probably spend less time on here.
I should stop tripping
I should make some OC
alright guys I got the whole battle rattle in one pic except rifle because the gf's family and their kids are running around
>>30108566
he's projecting because he's probably the fattest one here.
How's it going?
>>30108722
Pretty good, wanna talk about the why's and why not's of our gear instead of arguing about who's fat or not like it's a girl's highschool locker room?
>>30108722
Sexy clean and simple
>>30108759
Weren't you killed in a failed hostage rescue in Somalia?
Just out of curiosity does anyone here have a resuscitator mask and one way valve as part of their kit?
Anyone hear anything on the valdada 1-10x26 35mm LTS 2 scope?
I saw TiborasaurusRex shilling for it, and it has got me intrigued.
>>30105037
>discuss books
I ended up picking up the audiobook of One Soldier's War by Arkady Babchenko
Thought it was pretty damn good.
>>30108759
>Pretty good
Good to hear
>wanna talk about the why's and why not's of our gear instead of arguing about who's fat or not like it's a girl's highschool locker room?
That would be nice, but it's 4chan's GQ thread.
The closest thing to that is someone asking a question, and people trying to inform the best they can on the experience they've had.
>>30108760
KISS is always a good philosophy when you're tired, hungry, and drunk off adrenaline.
>>30106917
Seeing as the comment he replied too asked if he could even run 1 mile I don't see the issue. You sound like a resentful fatty anon.
>>30106263
Troops issued the parka would wear them in the shower rooms. Never really saw widespread usage other than that.
>>30109035
I don't have one in my kit but I do have one that I got from the first aid class I took. They said you should always use one instead of using straight up mouth to mouth.
>>30108722
Fuck that's a good setup
>>30106600
Literally why do you care where a square of cheesecloth is made and want to pay $25 for it
You should consider killing yourself, the world has no place for someone as weak as you
>>30109071
>Valdada 1-10x26
>weight 29 oz
not exactly a light optic but neat none the less.
>>30108565
>like lunges with a 45lb barbell.
nigga thats just a leg warmup, wouldnt consider it part of cardio
>>30109135
>Leg day
Exercise caution my friend, I decided I wanted to be able to carry large amounts of weight so I got big thighs.
And hemorrhoids, big ones.
I would limit leg day to 1-2 days a week of intense weight training and cardio the rest. Swimming is better than running because its low impact and won't kill your knees. But running is easier to accommodate so pick your poison.
Guys, how many of you are classy as fuck right now.
>>30105550
>Combat Gauze (if you have it, don't wipe your ass with it)
does it clot up the asshole?
>>30106656
>RUKIDDINGME
>>30109177
leg days once a week.
>>30109135
If you can lunge with a 45lb barbell for 30 min, no breaks, you're pretty fit. I'm cribbing this from a workout program from some SOF guys, the original was 5 lunges, 5 push press, repeat until you round a 400m track. No need to pretend you're in better shape than you are here, m8.
Since we /fit/ now, I'll pipe up and say that legs and core form the basis of my routine. I've got a dedicated "legs day", but really that day is where I go for my high weight PRs and do a few extra machine things.
I do deadlifts, cleans, and snatches throughout the week. If you do low weight snatches or cleans with high reps, it's pretty good cardio. You can also get in cardio with rope swings, burpees and other body weight stuff.
But yeah, you can hit legs a lot. Just be safe and make sure your knees can take it. Don't run when you're training with your ruck- that's a big source of young guy injury.
And eat well. Of course. Have a plan. I personally have been bulking for a few months and am now doing a cut with low sugar/carb focus. MyFitPal is an easy tool to get back into the swing of reduced calories. And drink lots of water throughout all days .
>>30109135
>not exactly a light optic but neat none the less.
I think you're looking at their 1-10x26 FFP/SFP.
LTS-2 weighs about 25 oz
But yeah, I think it would be pretty nifty on the SCAR.
>>30109035
My mother has kept one in her car ever since she had to stop and give some meth-mouth fucker mouth to mouth after she dragged him out of his flipped car.
>>30109426
>had to
Is she a Dr? Why did she have to? Fucking giving mouth to mouth to some random meth head who can't drive.
Can I get recommendations for a chest rig for $40 or less (for use with AR). I was thinking about getting a type 56 rig, I figure if it was good enough for the gooks in nam, it's good enough for me.
Looking for a sling too, $20 or less, just for moving around with.
Also anyone got one of these afgs?
http://www.amazon.com/GVN-Angled-Rail-Attachment/dp/B01EREHMAA?ie=UTF8&psc=1&ref_=sxr_pa_click_within_right1
>>30109552
Different person, but when I was doing CPR training almost 10 years ago, it was my understanding that in some states certified people are obligated by law to perform on people in need.
I don't know how this could be enforced and I never bothered asking.
>>30109574
Type 56 works, but it's pretty deep so some pulltabs are recommended. You can fit 6 USGI mags or 3 pmags comfortably.
I highly suggest getting a plastic buckle for the backstrap so you don't have to tie it every time.
As for slings, I am in love with my VTACs, so I'd pony up a little bit to get them. My 5 year old VTAC is still going strong after a lot of punishment, so it's worth it.
>>30109574
Chicom type 56s are good
I would recommend ranger plated usgi mags.
usgi sling
>>30109637
Do you think 6 GI mags could still fit ok with the magpul mag pulls on them?
That was my original idea but if it is too tight I might go with the old duct tape and paracord pulls.
>>30109574
Chicom chest rigs are pretty god-tier honestly and everyone has used them from gooks in Nam to Ruskies in Afghan and even US special forces at times, plus it's $20 so you can modify the shit out of it without worrying about messing it up.
>>30109682
Well, even USGI mags are tight. Normal Pmags are so tight you can literally hold the whole rig up by the tab. So, way too tight IMO. GI mags with magpul tabs are likey to be nearly that tight.
For such a cheap rig, I'd personally just go with 3 mags in the vest and be happy.
>>30109723
Or get a type 81 so you can have 4 mags
>>30109744
Or 4, whichever. You're missing the forest for the trees about what I'm saying. Point is that I personally don't think double stacking mags USGI or pmag, but especially pmags is the greatest idea given how tight it becomes.
do you guys get your IFAK shit from specific medical sites or is amazon shit good?
>>30109781
Amazon works better because usually you can get cheap deals and build a custom kit with what you need instead of a overpriced premade kit.
Basic Kit should be up to the level of training you expect to be treated with, if you are having it for treating yourself or others with it, carry what you are trained and have used before. Don't carry something you don't know how to use or will be using for the first time. You will fuck up.
My kit for myself, or any one I come across consist of:
>NPA, various sizes w/ lube
>Various Sized Gauze Pads
>Quick Clot Gauze
>Occlusive Dressing
>Tape
>Coban
>Any Non-black Nitrile Gloves
>Trauma Shears
>>30109860
Forgot to list tourniquet too
>>30109860
cool thanks. will use this as a guide
>>30109723
>>30109778
Mine works fine with 6 gi mags, enough tension to keep the mags from rattling around, but still be easy to extract.
But I did stretch the fuck out of the cells by stuffing 2 ak74 mags per cell
I'll order the type 56 tomorrow, for $20 I could do a lot worse. I might as well ask a few more questions while I am at it.
Should I even bother with a Angled or vertical foregrip at all? My AR is mostly for HD, and shft or whatever is less of a priority.
I plan on mounting a light as well, here is what I plan on getting, keep in mind I am a poorfag.
>Cheap quad rail to replace the original sport 2 handguard.
http://monstrumtactical.com/collections/drop-in-quad-rail-handguards/products/ar-15-quad-rail-carbine-drop-in-black?mc_cid=640618d992&mc_eid=519774fa18&variant=15621183235
>Rail covers for bare rail sections.
http://monstrumtactical.com/products/ar-15-picatinny-rail-covers-black?variant=15621378115
>Cheapo mount
http://www.amazon.com/Olight-Offset-Mount-Flashlight-Black/dp/B00571UP66?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_2&smid=A2BXDF835GUW2Q
>Cheapo light.
I'll probably have to fiddle about to get it to work with the mount. I know you guys are going to say that I should get a real light, but I don't want to spend $50+on something that might never get used and takes expensive batteries. I don't plan on shooting with the light mounted unless it is HD. As long as it works long enough to get a positive ID, it should be ok.
http://www.amazon.com/UltraFire-SK68-300LM-Flashlight-Adjustable/dp/B00CU546JO?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
BTW, how much bigger than a standard handguard is a quad rail with covers? I got smallish hands so I don't want a huge handguard.
>>30107974
I have a picture of his face from a helmet/headgear thread a few months ago. If he ever really fucks up I'll publish it.
>he looks like a literal fire goblin with his nasty red hair and ugly-ass face
You folk reckon a camelbak could be concealed under a jacket/hoodie/basic normie outerwear without printing too much?
>>30110009
just wear a backpack, thats pretty normal. not sure if itll print much under, try it and see.
>>30110064
Ah yes, the classic Quasimodo grey man look
>>30107787
>>30107842
Rows use the same muscles used for shouldering and operating your weapon. Run because it's a big part of operating.
Tldr do both
>>30108581
Definitely stop tripping. Trips are for fags, anon is OG
R u a fag?
>>30110064
My backpack has a small hole for headphone wires to poke through (yeah, I want my iPod zipped into not 1 but 2 different pockets on my back), but with an Xacto and 5 minutes you could probably convert that for a pisstube. Then just stick the camelbak INTO the backpack!
>>30108759
It's one faggot who is doing all of the shit talking
>>30106524
I don't see the slob? Looks gucci to me
>>30109574
I would suggest an 81 over a 56
>>30109778
In an 81 they fit better
>>30106524
>implying
>>30106657
>projecting
>>30106708
>>30106724
>samefagging
>>30106149
definitely buy a night parka
>>30106291
glad to see you are still alive chocolate warrior
>>30109574
>>30109637
>>30109648
>>30109719
>>30109682
>>30109723
>>30109744
>>30109778
>>30109934
>>30109948
>>30110452
i don't have a problem putting stacked pmags in my 81 or my 56
>>30110546
you can also get a 10 pocket sks rig
>>30107979
haley strategic d3r heavy version , it can hold 4 mags for a ar10 or scar , and comes in a variety of color
>>30108799
>implying /k/oko can die
>>30110992
it will hold FAL and m1a mags too.
![Picture_0308[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/M2SvyvS.jpg "Picture_0308[1].jpg")
So I'm shopping around for some basic gear for my SMLE (best thing I have) and I've pretty much decided on an ammo belt kind of like pic related but with a bum bag and no bayonet.
The thing is, the surplus belts all have these tiny little first aid kits hanging off of them, and I'd really want a bit more than they had.
Problem is if it's hanging around like this a bigger kit would probably get annoying as hell really fast.
What do you guys recommend for an IFAK pouch?
I was thinking maybe an ITS Tallboy, but I don't know how well it'd mount.
>>30106312
at least you know what I'm sayn
>>30105212
>>30106642
appreciate the compliments fellas
>>30106695
>pants
basic Levi's 505 jeans
>belt
Bastion webbing with an AustriAlpine cobra buckle
>>30105225
yeb
radio fits well there doesn't it? Especially with the MFT minimalist stock
>>30112194
it doesn't fit in the 56 with the extended battery. i have an extra strap holding it in there. It fits with my extended battery in the 81. but you are right wearing the radio there is made easier with the thinner stock. my image is flipped i wear mine under my left arm.
>>30112204
>>30112194
Guy on the left like he'd be fun to hang out with. Guy in the middle looks autistic. The guy on the right looks like he is gonna shoot up a shoot.
>>30105079
These things are actually very light, especially compared to my heavy ass M40. They are a little tighter, so make sure you get the right size. They are also considerably cheaper than the M50 and you get that SAS A E S T H E T I C
>>30105550
Was that convention this weekend?
>>30112992
Yes.
The Marines I went with spent 30 minutes in a BL seminar, they thought it was a class on how to draw dicks better.
>>30106063
Glad you still come here.
>>30113086
>The Marines I went with spent 30 minutes in a BL seminar, they thought it was a class on how to draw dicks better.
why am i not part of this group of friends. fuck i want to go to a con with you koko.
>>30113086
Was it momo con?
>>30105037
What PC is this? I'm leaning towards 6094s, but that looks good too.
>>30113226
That's a 6094s...
>>30105545
This anon is correct. This is why many people put their IFAK somewhere where it's not necessarily easy to reach, since they assume it'll likely be someone else actually opening it up.
>>30113139
If you're at Bragg you're more than free to tag along next time.
Watching all the "free hugs" people's faces change when they realized I had plates in was a thing of beauty.
>>30113199
Animazement.
Not as cringey as some of the cons I've been to.
>>30113259
>Watching all the "free hugs" people's faces change when they realized I had plates in was a thing of beauty.
absolute ledge
>>30105037
>Radio. To talk to nobody during SHTF.
>"Everyone who knows anything is encrypted and i forgot to make any friends before SHTF."
>Helmet cam. To give future journalists first person video of your death.
>>30113239
Well I feel absolutely retarded. Thanks lol
>>30113259
sadly i'm on the other side of the country trapped behind the communist lines.
>Watching all the "free hugs" people's faces change when they realized I had plates in was a thing of beauty
kek
At the risk of sounding like a cheap bastard, but is the extra pocket on the Type 81 chicom worth the extra 10 bucks over the Type 56?
http://www.amazon.com/Arms-Gear-Bandoleer-Bandolier-Ammunition/dp/B00FW70HXQ?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.com/Surplus-Chinese-Chest-Pouch-Green/dp/B00GMO8ZZA?ie=UTF8
Are they both considered equivalent quality?
How come I never see anyone with the SADF 83 vests in these threads? I see a lot of the chest rigs, but not the assault vets. Too bulky? Doesn't work fantastically with carriers?
Pic related, but not mine
>>30113341
as someone who owns both i would say yes its worth it because you can fit things in the 81 that dont get int he grenade pouches of the 56. and the magazine pockets are just a tiny bit looser so you can fit two pmags in there really easy.
>Are they both considered equivalent quality?
construction wise they are identical. I prefer the specific example of 81 that i have. i feel that time has been nicer to it and that the fabric they just happened to use that day is better then what they used on the 56. But they are really not any different and will both function the same.
>>30113376
they are too expensive most of the time. i know that a fuck load of /k/ommandos have one and skeletor posts his often enough. I would buy one if i didn't have to give ivan $150 for it. i will eventually pick one up.
>>30113376
Isn't smersh a better option?
CAN SOMEONE TELL WHAT PATCH IS THIS ANON WEARING I NED IT!
>>30113404
Keep an eye out for sales with Ivan, I just grabbed one 20% off a week ago without any warning. The 150+ price put me off, but bringing it down by 30 really made it acceptable. It was worth it.
>30113427
smersh always struck me as relatively shitty construction and uncomfortable, but at least there's webbing. Can't really say.
>>30113427
it's pretty much the same thing. but when you buy russian shit you have to pay ridiculous prices and shipping. You can get sdaf rigs for cheaper a lot of the time.
>>30113473
120$ is a lot for smersh shipped? While sadfshit is 150$.
>>30113517
see
>>30113468
sadf can be 120 too, meanwhile international slavshit never goes on sale
>>30113341
>Amazon delivery time: 1 to 1.5 MONTHS
I think I'm going to be sick.
>>30113517
>>30113531
ivan was selling the servicable quality sdaf for 80 something bucks.
>>30113569
its because i bought all of them.
heerpoint takes fucking days to ship shit. I ordered two chest rigs from them. one got here in a week the other one still isnt here.
>>30113531
>>30113570
Well but smersh has a ton of options and spare pouches making it pretty modular. Not even speaking about the molle smersh.
>>30113450
weapons grade waifus
>>30113585
why are you arguing for smersh? we were just explaining why the sdaf rig is pretty neat and why its worth getting. there is nothing wrong with smersh. i'm going to buy a partisan rig at some point but it's really fucking expensive because of all the slavaboos who buy it up and because trade with russia is shit.
What's a good, cheap, light military surplus rucksack that'd make for an excellent BoB?
>>30113679
alice.
>>30108566
Not all the same poster. I'm the one who asked if he could run a mile and I meant it in all seriousness. Talking about tactics /training/gear is worthless if you're in such horrible shape that you'd be gasping for air during the entire firefight, or possibly pass out. The guy looks to be in absolutely horrible shape. Not just the bit of extra pounds , but the obvious lack of upper body strength. He should fix that , for his own good.
>>30113679
>>30113684
or that fleck pack NE used to sell
>>30113723
Any idea who might be selling it now?
All the alice packs I see on the internet get reviews saying they're very heavily used.
>>30113955
http://www.amazon.com/MFH-German-Army-Rucksack-Flecktarn/dp/B000MY8H8G
About to pull the trigger on this sling, for my AR, pretty cheap and made in the USA. Any reason I shouldn't get it?
http://www.amazon.com/Point-Tactical-Shoulder-Strap-Sling/dp/B00K8HRMNS/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
>>30113569
Fuck, I was just going to buy one. I guess I'll have to see if any local surp stores have any
>>30114020
Those hooks will break in a couple weeks, just get an MS3
>>30114020
I went with http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Force-Point-Military-Shotgun/dp/B00PVMBM18?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
It's a decent sling.
>>30113955
Get one that isn't heavily used; they're worth the shekels, and pair it with a NICE frame and you're golden.
>>30113679
if you are looking for a cheap surplus pack alice is the best.
>>30113684
>>30113723
these anons know their shit.
>>30113955
it doesn't really matter how hard you use an alice pack they are tough as fuck.
>>30114020
if you just want a cheap clip sling then that's fine. $10 isnt something to cry over even if it snaps in half as soon as you use it. it looks exactly like the alice canteen straps you can get for like a buck but made of nylon instead of canvas.
i have a magpul sling tho because im a faggot.
>>30109574
Buy a molle 2 vest and the pouches. Fuck these guys.
So how bad are two Kryptek Highlander TACO pistol pouches gonna look on Multicam?
>>30114465
most people wont notice it. i'm gonna reee hard when you post it.
>>30111011
>>30110992
Will it hold G3 mags? I assume that's a yes but I'm just curious.
>>30114512
Fight me.
>found the pouches on sale
>multicam was gone
>either OD or Kryptek were my choice
>>30114520
i'm pretty sure. idk man i don't own g3 mags or a dc3r
>>30114534
should have bought a OD belt then.
im not a fan of multicam but i fucking hate kryptek
>>30114565
Eh. It's just two pistol pouches. I'm autistic but I'm also jewish.
>>30114579
>Pistol mag pouches
Will go unnoticed. Don't worry about it.
>>30109972
i dont believe you, post pics or it didn't happen faggot.
>>30114579
>>30114602
unnoticed by everyone but us. we will make fun of you all the time.
>>30112213
you look like haji....
i bet you smell like haji too.
>>30106063
we miss you man...
>>30114643
I'm white as fuck and i shower daily. sure got me fgt. Hurr i don't like your beard, shut the fuck up.
>>30109384
>dont run with your ruck
nasty girl detected.
BUMPMAN
>>30114673
nope now you look like haji in disguise.
>>30114736
i bet you have never even been with in sight line with a middle easterner.
>>30114206
>look at amazon reviews
>tears and patches
>frame is rusted to shit
Damn, I want the ALICE rucksack, but I don't want to get shafted.
Guess I better check out the local milsurp shops...
>>30114772
sorry man, i know my local surplus shop always has atleast one medium rucksack and a couple frames and straps. just look around and on ebay and you will find one.
>>30105511
Did you get that moonman patch from NEET?
I want one.
If anyone needs good shoes Merrell MOABs are 20% off now
>>30114637
Oh, absolutely. You will always get shit for it from us.
Also do you fags run a hydration carrier that's MOLLE'd to your PC/rigs or just one that you can sling over your back?
Trying to decide which one I'd like better.
>>30107979
type 63 is best grill
cheap
5x single stacks cells for 20rd 7.62x51 mags and 2 gp pouches
works for
scars
ar10s
fals
g3s
>>30113695
Like I stated earlier broseoh, I had a medical condition, which turned out to be a hernia of some sort that kept me out of the gym for a few months. Now my arms have always been rather twiggy i'll admit, even when I'm actually in shape they aren't huge. But that's not to say I'm incapable. I hiked rim to rim on the Grand Canyon over three days with a 40lb pack. No mules or any of that bullshit. Don't get me wrong, one of the toughest hikes I've done. At least on the third day. I am working on getting back into it. So chill out there bubba. I haven't seen a board so concerned about one another's bodies since /fit/. I mean I know the military in and of itself is a homoerotic experience but come on now guys. Can we get back to talking about gear? Go to /fit/ if you wanna talk workouts.
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>>30115030
I'm pretty sure that, whether they know it or not, those of us who actually take our guns and rights seriously don;t want to be associated with people like pic related, so when you present yourself as someone who is a part of our culture it's kind of our "duty" to make sure you aren't giving the antigunners and SJWs any ammo of any kind. and being a tub of lard in tactical gear gives way to ridicule for everyone in the gun community.
ridicule > dehumanization > elimination
>>30115145
Fair point. I can't argue ya there.
>>30114895
I carry mine MOLLE'd to my PC, I don't like having more straps than I need around my shoulders.
>>30114922
my 63 is still in the mail :( i almost got the whole set
>>30114895
i have a molle hydro carrier and three strap hydro carriers but i don't want any of them attached to my pc because it's heavy and i cant wear a backpack of comfortable drive my truck.
i keep all my water in my rucksack or in my alice buttpack. if i needed a hydration carrier i would just put one on. i'm currently shopping around for a small assault pack that i will have a bladder or two in. maybe a flatpack.
>>30113596
>I don't believe in anything. I'm just here for the violence.
That patch is awesome.
>>30114895
I've tried the hydration pack directly attached to armor thing many times, and I've just never liked it. My dismounted loadout in the military was a 1qt canteen on my vest, some throwaway bottles in cargo pockets, and a Camelbak MULE pack on my back if I wasn't carrying a ruck (I carried a ruck more often than not though).
I prefer having a standalone hydration pack. It allows for carrying a ruck or jumping in a vehicle more easily. If you get a hydration pack with some pouches, it gives you some small item cargo capacity, which is nice. And for civvie/GQ purposes, the modularity is nice since you can have hydration without armor for hiking, or having armor but drop hydration on the range or whatnot.
Different milfags like:
>>30115187
may say different. And the reduction of straps is a valid counter-point, but attached hydration just isn't everybody's cup of Mountain Dew.
>>30115145
autism speaks
>>30106063
>>30106291
why have you forsaken us?
Where does a Canadian buy plates from ?
>>30115353
Because you're all doomed and I'm done trying to help people who won't help themselves.
>>30115499
i don't really believe mcnig would say this.
>>30115527
Well I did.
