lets talk about plates edition
what about them
>2016
>choosing anything BUT ceramic
http://www.lightfighter.net/topic/ceramic-armor-plate-xray
>>30076908
interested to see what brand everyone uses, I'm happy with my HighCom SAPI's
>>30076923
Fair, unless I come across another pair of XSAPI's in medium I'll probably buy some Line of Fire plates from a local company up here, they're insanely light.
>>30076956
>3.4 lbs per plate
Damn no kidding. I only see level 3 on their site tho.
>>30076996
yeah, they do offer level 4 but you gotta ask, not sure why but probably has to do with the cost per plate and most guys who need the level 4 are military or LEO so they'll be asking anyways.
>>30077027
Looking at your high dollar gear: do you have a main squeeze or at least get laid?
>>30076877
Short and sweet don't buy off eBay and no AR500.
>>30077483
>do you have a main squeeze
yep, been with my current gf for 4 years now.
>>30077768
this'll get SBR'd once its legal to do it again in WA
I've heard 6B45 and 6B43 carriers can fit Russian or SAPI plates, is this true?
>>30077806
the Russian size 2 plates are somewhere between a US SAPI medium and SAPI large, so this is pretty likely.
>>30071025
>>30071173
Damn it man! Give me links!!
>>30077768
thats not how you shemagh
>>30077900
im 2pac shemagh
>>30077933
kek
>>30077778
Be careful, women and kids mean less guns and beer vouchers.
Have a tryhard pic everyone.
>>30078026
>those twig arms and shoulders
I really hope that's an unflattering shirt
gf asked me about bug out bags today, what to carry, what kind of rifle would good for her to use, etc.
she's always been into shooting but mostly likes shooting clays and pistol
>I guess I better get good with a rifle in case we ever have to bug out
pretty fantastic moment, guess im gonna have to build a lightweight AR soon, and find out what kind of gear she can manage.
>>30078026
youre bismuth, bruh
Playe carrier? No thanks, i like being able to run.
>>30078048
Well, assuming that he may be a marine judging by that EGA on his helmet, not a lot of infantry guys are jacked
>>30078064
>tfw gf says she doesn't like shooting that much cause its too hard
>>30078086
>not being able to run in a plate carrier
nigga, 20 lbs on your torso is not going to stop you from running
>>30078086
lol shemagh
>>30078086
dude you have a light af rifle anyway, and plates aren't even heavy
Anyone have a d3cr or an Lbt 6094? I'm planning on getting them after transitioning from cheap chinese airsoft knockoffs.
>>30078112
yeah mine was like that for a while too, hopefully she'll get into it eventually
>>30078146
have 6094, what questions do you have?
>>30078146
i have both, shoot.
I've got Targetman AR500 plates and besides the weight I'm happy with the cut and size of 'em
I'll go lvl IV at some point and use these as targets I reckon
>>30078115
8 mags for ar and 2 for glock, plus my raifu, plus my pack, plus water. Adds up. An extra 20 pounds is unnecessary imo.
>>30078131
Thx hard tie quickly ;)
>>30078134
My whole set up is geared towards light weight. I live in a major city, if i have to walk out of town i want to go quickly, maybe an hours hike and i could be on the outskirts, so moving fast is a priority.
>>30078182
>in a situation where you would need all that shit
>possibility of getting shit not that important imo
>>30078159
What size do they come in? The airsoft one I have is a flyye 6094 and its a tad bit big for me but from what I'm told its a little bit bigger than a 6094A and closer than a B
>>30078175
Can the chest rig attach to the plate carrier like the mayflower plate carrier?
>>30078215
Speed over protection, with 60 pounds on your back its harder to go over a fence, taking a 10 foot drop hurts more eith higher risk of injury. Etc... i used to run and do really basic free running with a 40 pound vest. It wasnt fun
>>30078252
the mayflower has clips and velcro that attack the the chest rig but the lbt doesn't
>>30076956
>Line of Fire plates
>UHMWPE
why?
>>30078048
Honestly it is an unflattering shirt. Its a 3/4 sleeve shirt almost like I used to wear for baseball when I was a kid...and believe it or not I wasn't much smaller. Yes I'm a fucking twig.
>>30078076
Especially for the autists here. Yes I know its /gq/.
>>30078106
The amount of skellingtons in the infantry shocked even me. Made me feel better.
>>30078086
>>30078134
Honestly, plates aren't the most practical anyways. More centralized weight superior to your navel or center of gravity plus a small protection area equals WTF. Soft protection is more practical :
http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/FileDownloadpublic.aspx?docid=85ed6078-cd5c-4821-a6ee-9040857355c2
>>30078115
>nigga, 20 lbs on your torso is not going to stop you from running
Nigga that shit sucks ass. There is a point where the protection becomes a liability.
Hey all
>>30078272
>taking a 10 foot drop hurts more eith higher risk of injury
getting shot with out armor also greatly increases risk of injury. admit it, the reason you dont have a carrier is because you're a poorfag. pretty obvious looking at your rifle and gear.
>>30078358
What shoes?
>>30078364
I always like your setup and never ask what chest rig you have. I like the look of it and can't tell what it is.
>>30078439
Thanks man, it's a tactical tailor mav with bible. I got it off eBay new for 50 bucks. The pouches or surplus lbt and just a map and go pouch with 2 small pouches. I'm going to us a mag pouch to hole my radio when I order it
>>30078439
here's it with everything else
>>30078272
Can always secure a sideplate on your back if you need to cut muh pounds.
Kind of on the same subject, anyone know of a Chest rig with a pocket for a plate? I saw thw Rhodie recon, but thats about all ive seen.
>>30078382
>getting shot with out armor also greatly increases risk of injury. admit it, the reason you dont have a carrier is because you're a poorfag. pretty obvious looking at your rifle and gear.
Faggots will just have to accept the fact that some people accept the risk of not wearing body armor. If had a choice of only one type of ballistic protection I would choose helmet any day of the week. Besides in my opinion plates are meme tier. Fragmentation is a bigger killer and soft armor covers more area than just the cardiac box in a line perpendicular to the hajji and his AK.
>>30078401
Merrell Yokota Mids. Less heel drop than the Moab. Which doesn't mean much to some. My main PT shoe is an ASICS wrestling mat shoe because its all about them calves.
>>30078520
>meme tier
You're literally retarded. but since these threads are mostly just retards playing dress up, your incompetence is still at the bottom of the list
>>30078494
Does that back thingy remove the ability to have a plate in the back?
Anyone know/reccomend of any Messenger bags that are around 24 inches? Want to have something unassuming to slap my Ar in.
>>30078520
Fragmentation is not a risk that civilians actually come into contact with. In a "civilian" situation, GSWs are a far bigger threat. As a civilian, focusing on fragmentation is pretty pants on head.
Echoing that you're just a poorfag
GUYS LOOK
MY FUCKING SHINGLE FINALLY ARRIVED
AND GUESS WHAT
GUYS GUESS WHAT
IT ISNT REALLY RANGER GREEN :DDDDD
>>30076877
What PC is that? I looks comfy and close fitting...can anyone recommend a PC <$100 that's as close a fit as a JPC? I want it as close to my chest as possible.
>>30078547
Yes, it's a complete plate carrier. If you're asking whether or not you can fit a plate in the zip on backpack, I believe so, but there's no point since the platebag is right behind it.
>>30078352
it's lighter and provides same level protection with a plate that wont need to be serviced basically.
>>30078562
close enough
>>30078569
LBT 6094B in mas grey.
you can get one on ebay right now in ranger green for $200
>>30078569
Like, close enough that I could probably wear it under neath a coat or something.
UHMWPE plates are basically disposable right? They're expected to have a shelf life, and when they are ineffective you just buy more right?
Why are they so expensive if they are literally pennies to make?
>>30078592
Slicksters are pretty cheap at 130 bucks, bout as cheap as you'll find them.
>>30078596
possibly, but I'm not sure where you're seeing that its UHMWPE for line of fire.
>>30078635
I'm not that other guy. If they are ceramic then that sounds amazing.
>>30076877
>Not "Let's talk about plates baby. Let's talk about E-Sapi. Let's talk about it Edition"
YOU HAD ONE JOB, ANON! ONE JOB!
Join me /gqg/ and laugh at my old vest.
Years ago I got an old Marine OTV "free" because my boss deemed it too ragged to sell. [I worked at a surplus store]
So I diddled it up over the years for paintball, airsoft, costume shit and recently I've thought maybe I can actually make it useful.
Wtf kinda plates fit these things anyway?
I took some pix in my different combat shirts too
>>30078541
I meant plates by themselves. People are concerned with less weight but still wanting something that protects even if it is marginal in terms of physical coverage. I remember when people were shitting themselves over MTVs which led to people shrugging off protection for comfort. I blame bleeding heart congress and moms of America.
>>30078559
>Fragmentation is not a risk that civilians actually come into contact with. In a "civilian" situation, GSWs are a far bigger threat. As a civilian, focusing on fragmentation is pretty pants on head.
I know that civvies and the civie world rarely deals with fragmentation. But what type of GSWs are you talking about? Most in this country are caused by lower velocity pistol rounds which any ii to iiia vest will stop. Even the old PASGT vest would stop most pistol rounds. Having a hard plate because of ranger firefight wet dreams doesn't take away from the fact that soft armor is actually more practical be it Detroit or Baghdad.
>>30078660
Any SAPI cut plate, probably any plate you want, they aren't form fitted they just sit in the bottom of the carrier IIRC. These vests are trash by the way. Don't waste your time
>>30078671
Crye woodland G3 shirt
>>30078687
Crye AC Sand combat shirt
Kinda like this look
>>30078643
they're not ceramic but they're designed to be rarely maintained and IIRC dont have a shelf life
>>30078678
Right, I see your point, but if something has escalated to the point that you need to strap gear on in the first place, I would want to maximum protection possible, and quite frankly I would not feel safe with IIIA Soft Armor at all, even a relatively domestic round like 7.62x39 or 5.56 will punch right through it.
>>30078685
It /was/ free, and I'm turning poor so I'll stick with it for now.
I wasn't actually thinking about buying plates, I was just curious.
Every PC/Vest I see in these threads looks leauges more comfortable than this thing but eh, I'll live with it.
I'm currently trying to find some used side "plate holders" so I can at least get more real estate; I can't attach anything to the backside of it.
>>30078701
I also threw my warlord over the woodlands and like the look
>>30078660
Currently work in a surplus shop and my boss cuts me hella deals on high speed shit
>>30078701
If you had Woodland pants you could almost have an updated Arnold from Predator look. He had more a coyote brown shirt though.
>>30078635
Thanks, I'll shill out the extra 30 to get this...this works for me. Infact, its just what a Securifag needs at relatively cheap.
>>30078520
>plates are meme tier
>I would wear a helmet instead
its ok guys he has to be trolling
>>30078723
I miss those days. It didn't pay worth shit but it was fun.
The only new shit we sold was Condor and Blackhawk though, so any of the good stuff we'd get from GIs. And my boss was the most penny-pinching sob I ever met. Luckily he sold surplus cheap so I'd get unused ESS goggles for like $10.
>>30078710
If it gets to the point that rifles or carbines enter the game then yeah plates become worth it. But alot of people here suck the dick of ballistic plates. I can tell you that wearing an Interceptor and plates sucks ass from personal experience. There is a point where too much protection hinders you and exhausts you mentally and physically.
>>30078769
>its ok guys he has to be trolling
No, it actually has to deal with the axle that people wrap their heads around. Cranial protection is the most important. People get locked into "plates plates plates gotta have plates because muh SF has them" and they ignore the most common mechanisms of injury. Once again:
http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/FileDownloadpublic.aspx?docid=85ed6078-cd5c-4821-a6ee-9040857355c2
>>30078569
http://www.beezcombatsystems.com/SAPI-ESAPI-Plate-Carriers_c38.htm
Here ya go.
>>30076877
>LaRue
REEEEEEEEEEEare they as good as all the fudds at my range say they areEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Also:
Are the any plate carriers that are ALICE attatchable like maybe just the front plate pouch and I'll add on if i wanted?
does anyone here run goggles on their headgear setup, and if so what kind? I was looking at some oakleys but idek if gogs are worth
Just out of curiosity, do you guys kinda-sorta expect to really "use" your gear at some point?
Not asking this in the usual "hurr durr you don't need that" way, I'm just wondering.
>>30078925
I may never get to really use it like it is intended, but damn if the day comes I'm gonna be prepared and LOVING IT
>>30078925
Yes.
>>30078705
they are described as composite plates and buoyant which leads to me to believe that they are made of both UHMWPE and some ballistic fabric.
I don't know what kind of testing was done on them but being completely drop-proof and having "performance unaffected by extreme cold or hot environments" sounds extremely sketchy and way too good to be true.
who is using this company for armor?
>>30078925
it's unlikely but it could come in handy one day. it's a parallel to owning a gun for protection.
>>30078925
I was in the army so long that life without gear would feel wrong. I would go to sleep with the nagging sense that I had forgotten to do something.
I find the act of organizing, cleaning, and maintaining gear to be very soothing. Not much puts me more at ease and gives me a better sense of accomplishment than sitting down with a beer, laying out all my gear, and checking through it to make sure it's GTG.
I'm not planning for any specific thing. I'm not a militiaman or a prepper in the traditional sense. I use my gear in various setups where it feels appropriate. I go to the range or hike with pieces of it. Sometimes I load up in a plate carrier and do drills. Again, not because I foresee some imminent social collapse, but because the feel of shooting with armor on and moving with that weight on is something that is familiar to me, and something which I want to keep familiar. It makes me feel whole.
>>30078946
>who is using this company for armor?
RCMP ERT, RCMP, Edmonton City police, some Military dudes who buy their own armor. EMS for his stab proof stuff
he has test plates in the shop, ones hes melted and they still stopped rounds, ones that have taken 25 rounds of 5.56 without fail. I really need to go out and buy a plate and shoot it to really see but still.
>>30078925
It's one of the more useful "useless" hobbies.
Give me a good
plate carrier
Rifles
optics
nods
helmets
etc kit
than a Tupperware box full of dragon dildos of equal or more value of the list above.
>>30078925
Probably not but I'll find some reason to wear my shit one way or another
halp /gq/
I wanna into a bullet resistant hemlet but I don't know fuck all about them. Kind would like to have something similar to my TW bump.
>pls no cpg, tis china brand shit?
>>30078925
I play bbwarz in my gear tbhfam
>>30079123
I use a mich >>30079125
It's not bad and they're cheap enough
Lemme find a pic from when I had my PVS-7
>>30079029
if you do buy one, heat it in an oven or over a fire and shoot it while it's hot. if it still stops what it's rated for, I'll probably go and buy some myself
>>30079123
I'm sure this goes without saying but TW makes ballistic helmets.
opscore ballistic and crye airframes are the other standard choices in high-cut helmets. the mtek flux is a newer entry that I haven't heard much about yet but supposedly it's very light
>>30079172
Probably just going to have to save up and buy a name brand TW or Opscore. Oh well, buy once cry once.
>MTEK Flux, digging them so far
debating on a ranger green carrier and getting a digi flora rig to put over it. That way I can switch between my multimeme rig and digi rig whenever I feel like wearing something else. Or just getting a 6B45/digi flora carrier. At this point it's just aesthetic, but I was want some input.
>>30079291
A solid base color is a good choice, that way you can use different camo patterns interchangeably.
pic related, my ranger green Beez Omega with my multicam BAE TAP rig
teach me about belts
I'd like a belt I can wear with normal pants, with cammies, and put some kind of magazine holder and maybe dump pouch on, too. I don't want to do the whole big molle belt thing.
Does such a thing exist? What do I want?
>>30079414
Yes such things exist but Battlebelts are infinitely more practical imo.
Check out the Suregrip Slim Belt. Nice platform to build a minimalist belt from.
http://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/slim-grip-31SPB.html
>>30079414
Another good option would be an Eagle Industries battle belt. They can usually be had for $20 on Amazon and its milsurp quality.
pic related. old gun and holster but you get the idea
What color plate carrier would /k/ recommend to go with A-Tacs? I'm thinking Coyote brown.
Also, does anybody know if Marz tactical is a good brand? They have a nice looking Plate carrier I'm looking at buying.
>>30079125
Same. I'm not all "tacticool"-looking, but I have reasonably useful stuff. Some stuff is real gear, some is not (Flyye makes great stuff).
>>30078358
>complains about heavy gear
>still brings heavy gear
Get bigger
>>30079726
coyote brown would be a good choice
Marz is a quality brand but out of principle I don't support companies that blatantly copy others. their pc is a little too similar to the 6094
>>30076908
>prone too hard
>have to buy new $500+ plate
>>30079876
Nice meme.
>>30079876
literally no, you dumb know nothing faggot
>>30078112
I'm there right now
> When we started dating she acted more enthusiastic or at least gave it a try when we would go shooting
> Took her to the range the other day and she was getting noticeably irritated, admittedly my Ruger 10/22 was being a bitch and wasn't ejecting all cases.
> I've fixed it and replaced the extractor but I don't I'll want to take my gf shooting with me for a while.
>>30078358
holy shit, i would not post that picture if i was you, you look like the biggest sperg on 4chan
>>30076956
That house and green electrical box look awfully familiar, gonna keep an eye out next time I'm driving around town...
not sure if right, inb4 hydro it's shipping
To the guy last thread who implied that I don't know what factions are, I know they're opposing groups.
So was Chinatsu, and our favorite arms-dealer damn near hired her after she nearly killed her, who's to say that she wouldn't hire some of the guys that nearly thrashed her bodyguards.
I'm sure HCLI pays better than the Navy anyway, and running guns is probably better than writing a book.
>>30080629
>night nine working for koko
can i come too?
>>30080744
That's really up to her.
I'd rather work for based Kasper anyway, seeing as he unironically enjoys his job.
So I'm curious:
Does the military dictate what plate carriers their soldiers can have or not have? Can regular soldiers pick their own or is it issued?
I'm just curious since it seems a lot of these photos always have different people in a big array of different carriers.
Like is the military contract for plate carriers just a whole smathering of different makers?
>>30077027
>most guys who need the level 4 are military or LEO so they'll be asking anyways.
Are level 4 plates not available to civilians or something? I've seen 1 or 2 places that refuse to sell l4 plates to anyone without a federal ID.
>>30078635
It mentions it's neutrally buoyant, a claim I've only heard for UHMWHDPE, not for ceramic
>>30080916
Level 4's are available to civilians though some vendors. Got these with gen 1 banshee a few years ago as packaged deal from Shellback.
>>30080967
>Level 4's are available to civilians though some vendors.
so majority won't sell IV's?
>>30080986
I didn't have any issue in finding mine, and I don't see why manufacturers wouldn't sell to civilians, unless all their level 4 stock is already committed to LEO and Mil contracts. What places have you seen that refuse to sell to you?
>>30081029
Nah, I just stumbled upon Diamondback Tactical's little spiel about them chosing not to sell 3 and 4's to civilians.
>>30081039
Fuck em. I know SKD will sell you plates if you provide shit like a copy of your drivers liscense and CCW. Others like Chase Tactical don't even require that.
>>30081081
HighCom asked for my birth certificate or passport
>>30079876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSK4U2Poo0k
>>30078671
That a Siege-R?
>>30078252
LBT has their own chest rig clip attachment system that isn't compatible. Honestly for simplicity's sake I'd just get a Mayflower APC. If the LBT hadn't been cheaper I wouldn't have bought it.
>>30080884
In years past, you wore your issue vest that also had Lvl 3 soft armor. Then once the soldiers plate carrier(giant piece of shit) came out. Not long after that people started using their own personally purchased carriers. It's really all dependent on the unit
>>30081510
yeah siege R optimized, super comfy
>>30080884
It depends. For the vast majority of soldiers, they use the issued armor or plate carrier. Usually this is from a small pool of models. For the US Army, the majority of troops wear the IOTV full armor, with deployed soldiers in specific areas wearing the KDH plate carrier.
On /k/ you get a skewed picture of how it is because special operations are way over represented, and because you see a lot of peoples' personal gear.
*Some* conventional soldiers, in some situations can get away with using personal plate carriers, but it is dependent on having an accommodating command, which is something of a rarity. Commanders who allow personal gear can dictate the details of what makes, models, features, colors/patterns, or layouts are allowed.
>>30076923
I have paraclete ESAPI.
>>30079876
>he actually thinks the COD superman dive is real life
>>30079876
see this http://www.lightfighter.net/topic/ceramic-armor-plate-xray
beyond that I spent 200 bucks on them
>>30082783
What are those arcteryx pants you shill here and are they goretex
They're calling for rain for all of Nuggetfest right now and I'm thinking about getting a hardshell pant too
>>30082832
I shill the combat pants, but they're a softshell.
I do have some ski pants from arcteryx that are a hardhshell and I really like them and I imagine the Alpha pants are similar but feature full length side zippers and better pocket placement for tactical reasons.
heres the ones I got
http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&category=Pants&model=Sabre-Pant
Though theres also the Alpha SL which would work just as well
http://www.arcteryx.com/product.aspx?language=EN&gender=Mens&category=Pants&model=Alpha-SL-Pant
>>30082876
I'm scared the SL's won't hold up as well or as long as the LT or possibly even the SV. Considering walking through brush, sitting, kneeling, falling etc.
>>30083128
might want to go to the LEAF line then and complete his set with the alpha LT pants
Alright /k/ let's talk soft armor. What's a good III or III a level soft best? I don't need it for work so a full on plate carrier is a bit much for my needs. But my milsurp store had a few FLAK vests for like $180. I was wondering if there might be something better though. Something that would be a bit easier to throw a chest rig over.
>>30078178
I have the same beez carrier, do you think sapis will fit in it? I don't mind getting another but I do enjoy the look and feel of this one. Also, I've beat the shit out of it, with the 20 pounds worth of plates in it, and it has held up great.
Pic sort of related, when I first got it
You will never know how bad it feels when you see threads like this and you are an eurofaggot.
Never give up you rights burgers.
>>30085406
Where you from?
>>30085495
I'm from Norway
>>30085525
Gay marry me, I'll take you to the range and suck your dick. :>
>>30085555
:DDD Not gonna go that far for guns
>>30085567
Trips commands you must obey.
>>30085406
doesn't norway have pretty lax funlaws compared to the rest of yurop
Want more opinions, best UBAC shirt manufacturer? And best place to get an M81 woodland UBAC that's not a 600 dollar Crye
if anyone was looking to buy the non-goretex Lowa Zephyrs, now would be the time
http://amzn.com/B002N1SYMA
Is 5.56 too 'little' for a DMR/SPR type rifle, or should I pony up for an AR-10?
I want to build an 18-20" AR-15, but I feel like I should consider going for a 16" AR-10 .308 instead.
>>30076877
I legit dont know shit about plates but was going to buy these. http://highcomsecurity.com/collections/products/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361416603
Should I not? Better plates as a recommendation?
Also are ceramics not good? I cant tell if OP was sarcastic or serious.
>>30086298
mk12 mod 0 is pure sex
>>30085857
Don't do this, I have a pair and they are fantastic right up until the second you hit a wet surface, then its like walking up a greased up slip and slide.
>>30086350
I'd love to make a clone of one eventually, but they're are absurdly heavy (10+ pounds). Plus the mk12 was a compromise as one group wanted a 16" rifle and another wanted a 20" rifle.
>>30086409
i dont mind the weight as i wouldnt be luggin it around the woods, i would use my carbine for that. it would be a dedicated bench gun. its just so sexy
>yfw you win a bunch of IFAK gear in auction for roughly half the price it would be new
>>30086331
I have a set of plates by them, they are a bit heavy, but good and cheap. they supply the miami-dade police.
I recommend either getting the 10x12 multicurve or a SAPI cut.
>>30086374
>they are fantastic until you get wet
so I'd imagine they'd be a great choice for the desert? especially considering the non-goretex version breathes better.
>>30086667
Okay. I just ordered 10.125x13.25 SAPI cut.
How durable are they? I dont plan on dropping them off buildings but I dont want them to be trashed if they slip out of my hands or some shit.
>>30086742
those are great plates.
see >>30081207
for durability
>>30086667
Do you need to be in law enforcement or just a freedom citizen?
>>30086772
they'll ask for either passport or birth certificate
>>30086742
>Large SAPI
what's your height and weight?
and as with anything else you'd want to take care of, just don't drop them. once they're in your carrier it's pretty unlikely they'll get damaged by wearing or handling your carrier.
>>30086824
6' 1" 220lbs. I have a large chest. Not like i am fat or super buff I just have an abnormally large chest cavity. Like I had to wear a large long when I was in the Army because my shoulders were too broad and anything else looked like it had shrunk on me.
If it is too big then fuck me I am out of $180 but now I know.
>>30086861
given your size you should be fine.
How much water is a good amount?
When I'm camping I usually just bring 1L and then rarely need to refill it from a stream, but everyone seems to bring at least 2L in their gear.
It also seems like people have brought more water over time. Back in WW2 it seems like they carried 1L, but now I see soldiers walking around with what looks like at least 3-4L.
>>30087001
PC has 2 compartments. 1 for SAPI M (9.5x12.5) and 1 for SAPI L(10.125x13.25)
PC always seems small to me but looks like it covers the right areas.Or is it too small? Pic related.
>>30087053
how much water you carry depends on how hot it is, how much sun exposure you're getting, and your activity levels
temps where I live usually sit around 90 with high humidity and sun, I carry 3L and a microfilter.
>>30087053
Soldiers nowadays are fighting in arid desert regions so, you know, probably relevant.
>>30087109
looks good to me. your plates are supposed to look a little small
keep the large plate in the rear
>>30079471
>Yes such things exist but Battlebelts are infinitely more practical imo.
Depends, really. If I'm not carrying much I think carrying on a rigger/CCW belt inside your pant loops is way more stable.
>>30087248
There's also the Grey Ghost belt.
>>30086374
But the dry quicker mien friend.
If you're going to be walking through puddles, you can just put on some seal skin socks.
non-Goretex is goat for everyday use.
>>30085857
>>30086374
>>30086680
>>30087325
Altama Foxhounds are an absolute dream. I used to get my feet ate the fuck up. Then I bought some Altama's. They take about a week to break in. Are extremely comfortable and supportive. Very water resistant. The soles are some secret squirrel anti-slip shit. Plus they last a while.
>>30087451
OR the Exospeed II's if you can find them
>>30087109
Looks good.
>>30087109
Mirin
>>30079485
What mount is that on your TRS?
>>30079005
Do you perform a weekly PMCS on your POV
>>30080059
Its kind of the point.
>>30079833
Just because you're big doesn't mean you can endure. More than once I ended up taking a piece of gun gear (M252) from someone bigger than me because they were falling out of a hump.
>>30087882
>Just because you're big doesn't mean you can endure. More than once I ended up taking a piece of gun gear (M252) from someone bigger than me because they were falling out of a hump.
Why you lying Bitchboi Skeletonington?
>>30087882
>More than once I ended up taking a piece of gun gear (M252) from someone bigger than me because they were falling out of a hump
>>30084874
SAPI plates should fit as long as they're 10x12
>>30078026
Dalton?
What PC would fit well with a SADF battle jacket type 83 battlejacket? Has anyone ever nigger rigged one to fit into it or under?
I'm 6'2, 200lbs.
What is good carrier for not manlet.
Have kind of broad shoulders but a pretty narrow frame.
>>30088035
Any plate carrier in XL?
>>30088035
>>30088049
I have like 350$ budget, not wanting poorfag cheapshit.
>>30087918
$76,500 now.
>>30087918
>>30087947
Sigh, people on the internet don't believe me.
>>30088000
I would imagine that just about any slick carrier would work. If you have medium plates get a Blackhawk low-vis large.
Is there a way to remove this adjustment clamp (circled) from an alice belt?
I want to swap out the buckle with a fastex one i have
>>30087109
>if yer not a fag
>y r u dressed like one
>>30088184
If you pry the lips with the hole in them out then you can work it free. You wont be able to put it back on though.
>>30087109
The way to size SAPIs is you want the sides of the plate to cover the outside edge of each nipple. Hard to tell from the pic but you look like you're okay.
>>30082469
If it looks issued, how would they even know?
When I was in Afghanistan, I used my own personal lvl IV plates that I had purchased, inside the issue frag vest.
Think of the reasons why you are seen, the same reasons apply to unissued kit.
Contrast
Silhouette
Shape
Size
Movement
Noise
Shadow
Your non-issued kit needs to blend in with your issued kit. Not talking about, bragging, or drawing attention to your non-issued kit helps too. Not that any of you are going to do that, because most people who buy extra kit are insecure faggots and will constantly seek attention and validation for their purchase.
>>30087289
>tfw theyre closing down their retail location tomorrow
i am a sad pepe.
>>30088563
sharp rifle.
>>30088354
Unless your command is ok with aftermarket vests, it's not something you're going to wear. If everybody is wearing an IOTV and you show up with an LBT, it will be noticed. Unless your unit has blind first line supervisors.
Many commands lock down wearing different vests to stop from having to eyeball every aftermarket vest a Joe buys. If there is no official guidance on aftermarket gear and somebody buys a vest and gets away with it, suddenly more people will. And one person might be sensible, but other Joes might go and start stripping off side plates or buying a recon harness with one plate or something stupid. The rules make management easy and uniform to apply.
Some commands will allow exceptions, but they generally write up their own rules on make, model, color, and/or features beforehand to prevent stupidity.
Plus, stateside, units tend to be less lenient. My unit deployed with 90% of people wearing aftermarket plate carriers, but in the states we wore regulation IOTVs to every mixed unit training event.
>>30088100
Really, wearing your flyers? You splurge on carriers and rifles, but those shitty ass gloves. Also, I'm sorry but I don't see you staying up in a ruck with any distance with it.
>>30088740
>flyers
>shitty
Spallujah may be a fake marine wanna-be sperglord, but his taste in hand shoes is impeccable.
>>30080629
How do I gear queer?
Need:
>room for AR mags... how many do you carry? 3 spares?
>comms pouch for UV-5R
>pistol mags
I don't have any plates and probably won't for a long time.
What do I do for a pistol holster?
I'm not a .milfag, so I'm clueless. I just wanna play in the woods with my friends without spending a ton of money.
>>30089605
>room for AR mags... how many do you carry? 3 spares?
3 to 6 on your plate carrier/chest rig
>comms pouch for UV-5R
7.62 tactical makes one
>What do I do for a pistol holster
gcode, serpa, safari land, random kydex company shit.
>>30089605
What's your budget? Are you buying gear to play dress up or under the implications that shit could hit the fan one say?
>>30089605
you want a chest rig in that case.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171133862962
these can hold both your mags, water bottles, comms, a pistol, and all manner of things
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252398357171
you can also get the sdf chest rig or a chicom rig on the cheap
I'd recommend you pony up a lil bit for something modern and get a mayflower
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131751979375
gives you space for rifle mags, pistol mags, general purpose tools, etc
what pistol do you have?
>>30089693
these kneepads are so fucking comfy
Whats a good low profile plate I can wear around under my shirt while going on walks among other things and won't be able to be seen and can stop at least 9mm
>>30089693
Budget: Poor-fag.
Under $150 for everything. Less is better, if I can get something that isn't complete garbage.
Purpose: dress up.
>>30089721
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/171133862962
Local surplus has a tan one of these (genuine, I think) for $50 that has a couple mag pouches and some other little pouch (little bigger than a canteen).
I have a P226.
>>30089750
>plate
you can't, unless it's a very loose button-up shirt.
you can get away with soft armor at most under a shirt.
you'll need a jacket or sweater for a plate.
>>30089605
Chicom type 56 chest rig- real cheap & operator approved.
Put the pistol and its mags on your belt.
>>30089802
>>30089760
What can soft armor catch?
>>30089759
I would still recommend the mayflower, you'll be happier in the long run.
you'll get tired of surplus issued shit real fuckin fast
>>30089759
I'd stick to anything Condor if it's purely for having fun and looking tacticool. Just don't trick yourself into thinking cheap gear will hold up under rigorous use.
The Condor Recon Chest Rig is probably the setup you're looking for. That's what I had when I first became a Gear Queer.
>>30089811
>catch
>implying
anyway don't buy any soft armor that's below 3a
it'll stop the pistol rounds that niggers typically shoot. plates aren't really concealable, they can merely be low-visibility
and
>>30089802
>>30089808
i just got a 56 in the mail today.
i got an 81, and the 10 pocket sks one already
and a type 63 is still shipping.
>>30078026
>light
I cringe
Hey, poor college fag here. Any place I can get plates that are a little more affordable? I don't want AR 500 because bullet shrapnel, but $400 per plate is a little too pricy for my right now, I'm willing to save but I'd like something for now rather than nothing juuuuust in case SHTF.
>>30089863
how about $400 for both?
http://highcomsecurity.com/collections/products/products/guardian-4sas-7?variant=361416603
>>30089863
SKD sells level 4 ceramic plates 185$ a pop.
>>30089855
Chechen bro, correct?
How do you like your 56 over your 81
>>30089863
Bulletproofme has some decent plates
http://bulletproofme.com/RP-Level-4-Stand-Alone.html
>>30089884
>>30089893
Well OK, thanks guys! I knew I coups count on GQ thread
Does anyone know anything about Giena Tactics? Or if not, what's the best place to get digi flora BDU pants. Someone told me goretex doesn't hold up well when being treated like standard uniform so I don't wanna fuck it
>>30089906
Thanks m80
>>30089906
i actually prefer my 81. I don't really have anything to put int he grenade pockets so i'd rather carry 8 mags.
i just wanted to buy a bunch of them and test them out and just collect them and shit. It could be useful to have a bunch of chest rigs during the coming riots. maybe i can hand them out to some roof koreans.
>tfw the only gear i have is my cheap airshit gear
>literally ~$70 plate carrier
I gotta save cash and get myself an actual plate carrier desu
>>30089909
highcom has a promo for 20% off with "supportnra"
rn you can get two 10x12 multicurve plates for under $300
>>30078178
Whaat PC??
>>30089970
Awesome. I'll keep them on my radar come fall financial aid. Scholarships paying for guns and plates!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Woodland-Camo-Special-Forces-SPEAR-Plate-Carrier-X-Large-Regular-SOCOM/262454374638?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D36538%26meid%3D1693aac75a9243a19e47c58967aa75d5%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252400543706
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Spear-Balcs-armor-carrier-vest-Woodland-size-medium-Special-Forces-/252400543706?hash=item3ac43ea7da:g:iuEAAOSwneRXQ8nt
i want to get that old school operator feel going.
why are these vests only IIIA?
>>30078178
I'm in the same boat, I have some AR500 that I no longer use. eventually I'll find a stand or build a stand for it
>>30089933
understandable.
Speaking of coming riots
How's the "gunpocalypse" doing in your state?
>>30090031
from what i understand we are in limbo right now. I don't think any of the bills have made it to the governors desk yet.
if they pass they don't go into effect until next year and no one is going to comply. I will probably just leave the state.
What's a good plate carrier for being inna car?
>>30090058
Well, that's good news.
Stinks that it's happening to you guys regardless.
>>30090085
A carrier that fits right, and a bulk-free cummerbund and you should be good.
>>30090026
You ever have problems with the pressure pad switch cable coming out ever so slightly on your DBAL where it won't read the switch?
I've noticed that the Surefire switch cable connectors don't fit particularly snug inside DBALs and sometimes recoil from the rifle is enough to knock them loose.
I've since ditched trying to use Surefire Dual Switches on my DBAL-I3.
>>30090155
Switch to the glorious PEQ-15c friend.
>>30089979
It's a Beez Omega in ranger green.
>>30090141
yeah its ok for now. im just frustrated that its allowed to happen in the first place. They have bills that specifically say "bans constitutionally protected firearms" in the wording. These people should be hung from street lights.
>>30090173
Thought about it but not particularly interested in going through the trouble of selling off my DBAL and buying a PEQ over something minor like a pressure switch.
If I build another AR I'll definitely pick one up
>>30089906
what jacket is that
>>30090155
all you gotta do to fix that is take a knife and trim the little plastic ring around the plug
>>30090186
>They have bills that specifically say "bans constitutionally protected firearms" in the wording
if they were honorable, they wouldn't be a politician to begin with.
>>30090207
Arktis b110 smock
>>30090218
Interesting. I take it that you had that problem as well and this corrected it??
>>30089911
Halp?
>>30090230
yeah. after trimming though it's been working great.
>>30090186
>bans constitutionally protected firearms
link me.
>>30090247
Amazing. I'm literally excited that there's an easier fix then putting a bunch of rubberbands around the unit and hope the cable stays put.
I've been wanting to emulate Costa's setup in this pic for awhile now since it appears to make the rifle less front heavy.
>>30090233
>>30089911
I haven't done business with them, but they seem to be airshit.
BTK/Splav make some pretty solid kits
>>30090016
Thos would work well with a clip on chest rig.
Bayonets: yea or nay?
>>30090186
probably non compliance.
I mean, if they ban bullet buttons and no way would you register your gun, what's to just stop all these people who put up with bullet buttons on their AR's to satisfy laws, to just switch back to normal release? It's illegal either way.
I'm more pissed about the ammo bill.
>>30090297
nay
>>30090305
Should stabbing bitches be even the slightest consideration for a knife?
If it matters, I only have a bolt-action rifle.
>>30090308
There are a lot more things to use a knife for, than stabbing people.
You nutter
>>30090317
Yes, that's correct.
But is stabbing people one of the possible uses that you should consider?
>>30090303
it's actually pretty likely that this will backfire on them if they get it passed. these are supreme court cases waiting to happen. If we get trump and he picks a progun or strick constitutionalist replacement for scalia we would win those cases and california would forever be free of this shit.
i think its absolutely rediculous for them to expect people to pay for and wait around for background checks. The idea of not being able to buy ammo online and have it shipped to your house makes me physically ill. or being a felon by simply lending my friend a rifle to go shooting?
>>30088688
I wasn't talking about an entirely different vest, see:
>Your non-issued kit needs to blend in with your issued kit.
I was talking more along the lines of pouches, clothing, gear, Helmet liners, goggles etc.
>>30090324
Bayonets are only good at stabbing, general knifeness it scores a 3.5/10
>>30090334
>iIf we get trump and he picks a progun or strick constitutionalist replacement for scalia we would win those cases and california would forever be free of this shit.
>implying they give two shits for the laws of the land.
Cal politicians will continue being dumb fucks and passing laws to shit on the Right
>>30090283
for a while I had the unit mounted to the rear, I found that the lasers would shine onto your thumb which was on the switch... directly in front of the lasers.
>chest rigs
>""""""battle belts""""""
Outta the way. Real mans gear coming through.
