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Hello /k/
I'd like to hear your guys' thoughts on clothing for war-fighting. I know that soldiers just mostly wear what they are issued, but I'm curious what you guys think is the best clothing for combat or what traits of clothing one should look for before going into a firefight. This thread isn't necessarily oriented towards camo, but feel free to weigh in on that as well. Is it better to have textiles which are synthetic, breathable, waterproof, with velcro, without velcro, or otherwise?
TL;DR: Best clothes for operating.
Environment dependent
>>30051127
Nice cop out faggit.
>>30051119
First in my mind is durability. Every soldier knows that you will absolutely beat the shit out the knees of your pants. Reinforced seat and crotch are good too. Ripstop nylon is good and a lot of outdoor clothes use it.
>>30051119
Tighter pants, tighter groups.
>>30051157
You just fucking answered your own question. Nylon ripstop and you G2G.
>>30051127
That's not a cop out you sperglord, if it's hot wear less and probably a specific color, if it's cold wear more and probably another color.
It doesn't take rocket appliances to figure this out, OP.
>>30051171
>You just fucking answered your own question
What the hell are you talking about?
>That's not a cop out you sperglord
Yeah, yeah it is.
>>30051119
I like the swiss army uniform, it's made from some sort of denim i believe
although the old cold weather jacket sucks (the new Gore-Tex jacket is way better)
A robust fabric in a color that blends in to the surroundings. Alternatively, whatever the locals wear.
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Anyone have any experience with the company Fjallraven?
>>30051119
ye
>>30051157
>nylon
Absolute shit, will rip like a bitch and is unreliable.
>>30051262
They are realy tough but also a bit heavy
Synthetic fabrics a shit.
Robust cotton fabrics are best
>>30051362
Have fun never having dry clothes.
>>30051336
that fishing vest has probably killed more men than you can even imagine
>>30051470
its about the guy in the front. Buisiness casual.
with Vinning you're winning.
>>30051362
>>30051262
Looks like gorka. You know, except it isn't cheaply made Russian shit.
>>30051626
fjallraven is expensive third world shit. good quality but vastly overpriced. You can get domestic-made goods for the same price.
>>30051226
WHO THIS
I NEED TO KNOW
>>30051119
W O O L
now fuck off
>>30051716
>>30051226
Seconded for research purposes only.
>>30051716
>>30051738
>google search
>Shou Nishino
>>30051160
Top kek, is this shit real?
>>30051160
oh, jew.
>>30051119
Id just wear my normal clothes but Im paramilitary at best.
>>30051756
you fucking liar that's not the same asian ass babe
>frog top
>frog bottom
Light, breathable, comfortable, flam resistant, and it's a great way to stay in shape
>>30051160
Someone skipping leg day
>>30051362
Synthetic fabrics kick absolute ass. I live in hell, and by that I mean a sub tropical climate. Going over 100f with 70%-90% humidity is not out of the ordinary for me. Traditional fabrics are like a death sentence, but the synthetic stuff is breathable and drys off from the oceans of sweat I produce. It has its place.
>>30051262
Their backpacks look like knock off of my dads gear from the 70's.
>>30051262
exceptionally expensive. Sturdy but come on... in France they target hipsters. I have an anorak n°8 from them, wait for sales when they change their catalog. For pants I prefer Swedteam.
>>30052275
They've been making outdoor gear since the 60's and lots of those old designs are fashionable now.
>>30051833
>Im paramilitary at best
What does this mean?
>>30052011
>frog top
>frog bottom
What are these?
>>30051119
>blur his face
>show his tattoos
>>30051119
Normie clothes + gear
Remove gear and blend with the normies.
>>30051119
Tough denim, loose and comfy, boots or running shoes, some long sleeve shirts made of tough cotton or some material and a paintjob to match your environment. Whenever I go innawoods, I use a green T shirt as a makeshift shemalegh to shield from the sun (Woods has plains area and the sun is hella hot at 80°F), some surplus woodland multicam and tough old jeans. Works great hiding in thr grass to stalk wild birds
>>30052020
>Not putting the zerg face on the guy in the center
>>30054238
what country is this guy fighting for?
>>30051119
Either what the natives wear or high-end outdoors clothing and gear.
>>30054282
anyone know what PC that is?
>>30051119
>shit eating grin blurred
yyyyyyyyy
>>30054238
>>30054498
don't worry about it faggot
>>30051764
Is that question real? are you retarded. Holy fuck I know it's summer but jesus christ.
>>30054608
but i do worry, please tell?
>>30054643
he's your friend, he fights for freedom.
Dutch TenCate + Dyneema stuffed fire-retardant multicam variant the US SOF and Assie SOF use. IR reducing and all that operator shit.
Or Norwegian Garm gear.
>>30054643
Pretty sure he's MARSOC. Those guys always look like bikers. plus his plate carrier patch kinda a give away.
>>30051262
generally solid stuff but hilariously overpriced, if you don't have a friend who can buy it at wholesale or discount consider yourself equipped but laughably ripped off. don't buy their hipster manpurse/packs you might see on college loan children. pants and other needs to be overbuilt serious gear only. don't expect their shit to be water proof because you should be waxing it yourself you goddamn hipster slave.
Adidas cargo trackpants.
Fake Adidas of course.
>>30054685
thanks
>>30054693
>don't buy their hipster manpurse/packs you might see on college loan children
Not the anon you replied to, but I use pic related. Really happy with it. Not cool enough for the Fjallraven
>>30051119
Obviously you want it to be comfortable. This is an absolute must, believe it or not. Discomfort is a distraction and distraction is the last thing you need. It should also be of a material that wicks moisture away from skin, and it should to be distinctive enough for allies to recognize but inconspicuous enough for the enemy to overlook (or intimidating enough to make them shit themselves). Other than that it's all environment dependent, really. No one outfit (or weapon for that matter) is perfect for everything. My fatigues are perfect for late spring through early fall but shit in winter. I have a bushcoat that's perfect for snow but which would kill me within an hour during the summer, jusy like how handguns are excellent for personal defense but absolute shit for going on the attack.
>>30054581
Some over priced nylon, you can make better equipment yourself and save hundreds of dollars and possibly make money if you are good at sowing.
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>>30054728
I wouldn't slight you for wearing that at all, it's basically an Alice pack with leather straps. It might be cotton from appearance which would suck where I live but to each their own.
This is what I think of when I say don't buy fjalljew.
Their gear that isn't intended to be multi-week field gear is garbage intended for hispters, and even their srsbsns gear isn't usually made out of ideal materials, suggesting you wax it. Overall it's overpriced garbage but I place a very high premium on insulation when damp or wet and am not overly concerned about my clothing going napalm in a bomb burst.
>>30054768
>sowing
>>30054581
JPC in RG.
>>30054817
Meh sewing whatever. You know what I mean.
>>30054799
>it's basically an Alice pack with leather straps. It might be cotton from appearance which would suck where I live but to each their own.
I'm a retard. I grabbed the wrong pic of the bag of google. Mine is the same but it has a Kodra nylon material instead of the leather/cotton which is the higher end bag. I go to school in Florida so that cotton wouldn't hold up well when it pours walking to class.
>>30054768
This, if you have an industrial sewing machine you can make gear that would normally cost $200 for like $20-$40.
>>30051193
jesus christ you're retarded
You're saying durability is key. Let's run with that.
Let's say the best pair of pants in the world is made of six layers of kevlar and 1000d cordura with every seam quadruple stitched, platinum knee caps with gel pads, built in suspenders made of 3/8" thick webbing, and all covered in tightly woven chain mail for ultimate abrasion resistance.
You're saying these pants would be perfectly suitable for desert, forest, tropics, tundra, deep snow, mountains, plains, etc.
kys family
>>30054817
>not planting your own plate carriers
What are you, gay?
>>30051822
>not a single set of ear pro to be seen
>>30054211
FROG stuff is what Marines use. It's pretty nice stuff, but fairly expensive for what it is.
>pic related of my NWU III frogs
Tracksuits are the best operating gear there is, prove me wrong
pro-tip: You can't
>>30055147
Forgot pic
>>30051119
Whatever the locals wear
>>30054879
>Kodra nylon material instead of the leather/cotton which is the higher end bag
cordura nylon is preferable for a functional pack desu. marginally heavier but better.
>>30052275
They made your dads gear in the 70's
>>30051119
the best clothes are the ones that make you blend, and are comfy.
civilian clothing is usually really good, because one you dont stand out as much, and two its usually more comfortable.
>>30055070
What?
>>30054441
>Jeans
It's like you enjoy chaffing.
>>30055007
if this exists let me know otherwise
FUND IT!
>>30055471
You do realize there's this wonderful device known as underwear, you should try it out sometime anon.
>>30055415
WHAAT?
>>30051470
He isnt even carrying a weapon. Probably some kind of PR guy.
>>30054728
that looks pretty cool
I use a czechoslovakian m60 backpack from 1953. It's great. Cheap as ever loving fuck too
>>30055158
mostofthem are nylon/polyester. Not great when in contact to fire.
I've had clothes of those materials burn and melt onto the skin of the Scout who brought them with him on camp
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>>30055374
>>30055007
dude...WHAT in the hell are you talking about?!
You said I "answered my own question"...I never asked any questions,
Then you're saying...oh right, that I said:
>You're saying these pants would be perfectly suitable for desert, forest, tropics, tundra, deep snow, mountains, plains, etc.
No, no I never said any of that.
Im not joking when I ask, what is your first language?
>>30054282
In essence this, but choice of fabrics is gonna be huge, as well as good compression shorts.
Hell all I really need to operate is a good pair of compression shorts...
Two words: Levi's Commuters
>>30055330
Good to know. Thanks, anon.
>>30055644
>wearing underwear
Stopped in the army, never looked back.
>>30056123
Levi is a shit
Duluthflex firehose pants are goat or Duluth ballroom jeans.
I need to disagree on the synthetic cloth. It usually dries easily yes, but even a hint of fire and it goes up in flames. Some are better about it than others, but they still leave a fucking horrible burn as it melts on you.
Personally I like canvas based clothing, it's stupid durable, but heavy as fuck, wouldn't want to swim in it either.
>>30055471
Stop being a fat fuck.
>>30056332
It's like you like rubbing your dick against the zipper
>>30056504
>zipper
What army were you in?
>>30056530
>He wears a button fly as a civilian
>>30056530
The gay one
>>30051336
Vinny gets my dick so fucking hard
>>30051119
I wanna be a drug rug operator like that guy...
>>30056570
Then go buy a drug rug, they're pretty great honestly.
>>30055070
>>30055415
WHAT?
>>30056592
Ive had one, I did like it.
I just never realized how comfy operating in one would probably be.
>>30056504
>>30056542
You mean your zipper is just exposed? There's no fabric there? What kind of Chinese shit do you wear, or are they some weird locally produced hemp, hipster shit?
>>30051119
I like comfy operating.
>>30056651
Why'd you get rid of it?
>>30056710
Comfy you say?
>tfw 4chan will never adopt a clan system
>tfw we will never have a /k/ tartan pattern so we can easily recognize each other in public/SHTF/whatever without wearing some kind of /k/ patch or whatever
>>30056719
I felt like a scrub wearing it. Wish I didn't donate it cos I miss it a lot.
>>30056719
Why is it that many of these drug rugs have a Ku Klux Klan hood?
wear wool
mix and match camo
go hard in the paint
always remember the 6th principle of patrolling, look cool.
>>30058620
The hood is very square shaped and has a very stiff point, just the way it's sown, so if you pull the brim (or whatever you call the top of the opening) of it far enough forward you get the KKK effect.
>>30055471
>jeans
>chaffing
what the fuck?
>>30056806
Isn't there one?
>>30056504
Try moving more than the 30 feet from the basement to the kitchen. Denim is shit for long walking.
>>30054441
>shemalegh
googling this gives me shemale porn results
>>30055147
>make swooshy sound with every step
No thanks
>>30058845
Someone has been spending way too much time with skeleton
>>30058880
Which is why they've been without question the most popular article of clothing for over 100 years now and why fucking SEAL's used them in Vietnam
>>30058880
Here's one for you- don't be such a fucking lard ass. I've been in wet jeans all day walking before a couple of times and I can tell you the only people that chaff because they were wearing jeans were all fat asses.
How about YOU leave the basement, friendo.
>>30058971
>this just in
>vietnam-era gear decisions are still the best
>>30059000
>those trips of truth
>>30059000
trips confirm >>30058880 is a fatass
>>30059013
>this just in
>if what you wear isn't the absolute best of the best $500 operating operationally gear than your legs will literally melt off the moment you put it on
If they really that shit for long walks than they would have never been used, they may not be the best but they're perfectly serviceable.
Jeans are fucking horrible for pretty much anything beyond showing your ass off. Get some nylon or cotton/nylon hiking pants.
>>30054498
All of them
>>30058971
Can't argue with this
>>30059049
>If they really that shit for long walks than they would have never been used
Yet they were rarely used then and aren't used at all now. That should tell you something.
>>30059261
Make me faggot
>>30055076
In switzerland we call that a Gnägi (after the Minister of Defence who ordered them) but we use it as long sleeved shirt for when it's cold (the older ones have an awesome turtle neck to keep you warm)
>>30059882
>SBR
>>30051119
>TL;DR: Best clothes for operating.
Anything that's not flammable
>>30059987
Short Barreled Revolverlauncher, obviously
>>30058880
>30 feet
>long walk
comfirmed for fatass
Only one answer
>>30060354
So that falls into 2 categories
Cotton and exotic fabrics that cost a fuck ton.
>>30051119
Plastic melts, polyester is plastic, plastic clothes melt to you
100% cotton, at most only 30% polyester
>>30054238
Is that a drum mag?
>>30052020
Where is this from? I dont recognize the badge on the hat or the chest.
>>30060478
France, gendarmerie
>>30054282
Based Ricky
>>30060463
It's an m32 grenade launcher. That's just its cylinder. Carrying them suck
>>30052020
Is that fucking Kestrel?
>>30051119
I dunno man. When I was in A Stan our unit was super lax about what we wore. Generally in firefights a lot of us were wearing shorts and T-shirts with body armor. We suffered very few casualties. Don't get me wrong, people got fucked up, especially by IEDs, but no deaths.
The unit that relieved us was an active duty unity in full load outs and I gear that they suffered like 4 deaths the first month of their rotation.
>>30059013
enjoy your tech shit buckaroo
>>30059447
I swear to god millennials are the most sheltered faggot generation.
put on some pants and walk outside.
Jesus you will learn trekking in jeans ain't as bad as /out/ tells your fat positive ass.
>>30052020
Centre guy looks like his arms are fucking augmented or some shit even though I know it's just padding
>>30060411
Nomex isn't very expensive
>>30058880
>Denim is shit for long walking
how autistic do you have to be to say something like this?
>>30051119
Cute dresses
>>30063052
You know someone already made a thread about you.
>>30041324
>>30062643
Hes a manlet
>>30051268
there is nothing wrong with OD green
>>30056626
Underrated post
my vote goes to FAMAS.
>>30054238
>blurs his airsoft patch
>show everything else
>>30051119
>material
Wicking. Whether this be wool or one of the nylon-based wicking shirts/boxer briefs, doesn't matter.
>durability
When we first got ACU's I was on a sling-load team. Very first time we unassed the helo, all 8 of us ripped the ass-patch off the pants because there's a little metal lip on the door to a Blackhawk and they decided it was okay to sew that part of the pants a quarter inch back from the actual edge and only single-stitch it. FRACU's and the 3rd gen ACU's (the ones with the button pockets again...finally) fixed this though. I've seen no real difference in durability between grid ripstop and other weave patterns.
>gusseted, roomy crotch and articulated knees
Because nothing's worse than trying to climb something steep and mashing your nuts to your leg because some bureaucrat somewhere decided your COMBAT UNIFORM needed to be cut like an Armani suit. Also *greatly* aids the comfort and ability to piss while in a Swiss seat/climbing harness.
>breathability
I don't know how they managed it, but the ACU material is thinner and lighter than the summer-weight BDU grid ripstop but manages to breathe significantly worse and take longer to dry despite both officially being 60/40 nyco.
>>30054099
This.
See the ones in pic? Totally hot stuff in Finland during the last few years, especially young girls it would seem.
But the original? Made in 1978.
by they way: someone twittertet this
>>30063436
>Totally hot stuff in Finland during the last few years, especially young girls it would seem.
>Totally hot stuff in Finland during the last few years, especially AMONG young girls it would seem.
Whew, seemed like a normal 4chan user for a while there.
my style
your fate
>>30060411
You forgot wool.
>and I suppose flax, bamboo, and hemp, but literally no clothing suitable for doing anything other than sitting in Starbucks with your bajillion Apple products are made in them.
>>30063512
>flax
what the fuck brain. Linen. Which is made from flax but only after processing the shit out of it.
>>30051336
the high king of swag.
how can one man be so fashionable in a warzone, without being a nazi SS officer?
>>30051846
http://spizzyblog.com/2014/11/14/shou-nishino-is-a-paag-phat-ass-asian-girl/
what now
>>30051470
Tell us more about deadly fishing vest encounters anon.
I love a good story.
this famalam http://www.sarkardefence.com/products/tactical_clothing/nomex_assault_coverall/index.htm
provides cut resistance made out of Kevlar and nomex seems pretty boss if you ask me
>>30056092
Do you know how summer you sound?
Try being more witty and less whiny.
Hello ever one I have a question say I wanted to line a large coat or jacket with Kevlar how much would I need to line it with to at least survive small arms fire or knives also how much weight would it add on?
>>30063507
that is the gayest thing I have ever seen and I frequent cock rate thread on /b/
>>30064595
probably about 20-30 layers of specially designed Kevlar please do not buy a Kevlar sail for a sail boat different design weave and properties will not stop bullets. will probably weigh around 20 pounds if all around protection you will need overlap if there is a zipper as zippers are not bullet proof also be sure to design it so the weight is distributed evenly across you shoulders and that the Kevlar panels do not sag. Also make sure to sew the Kevlar panels out edges together so they do not fray, or separate when hit.
>>30064624
thank you anon for the help now tell me dose this seam practical to you or any one?
>>30064637
well have you ever heard of the north Hollywood bank robbery it worked pretty gud for them. frighteningly so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
>>30064637
also from what I have seen from professional manufacturing is that if you take multiple layers of fabric and bond them together with polyurethane epoxy under pressure. this will give you a hard plate that can help reduce truma. literally did this with a few layers of canvas and ended up with a machete proof and arrow proof sheet of material
>>30064657
please do not use this information to commit criminal activity I am sharing this as a hobbies I'm a bit of an armor and weapons geek although I would hate to see people injured in pointless acts of violence.
>>30064657
Thank you anon how much would it cost me do that
>>30064637
well define practical it would probably be cheaper to buy a concealable vest as Kevlar is pretty expensive when bought in the bulk needed to make it. you will need a roll 5feet wide and 30 feet long by my estimates
>>30064720
safe guess would probably be around 500-600 bucks. the main reason is that you would not get the bulk discount that most professional buyers get when ordering. I would seriously recommend looking into bullet proof me .com as they do sell Kevlar scraps that while old still offer reasonable protection from ballistic objects this could be stitched together to make a technicolor quilt of Kevlar. although I really would recommend just buying a normal vest, unless you just really want the experience of making something with your own two hands. I got into stuff like this when I was in 7th grade, loved the military channel loved mail call... happy times
>>30064720
Given your intrests if you really want to have fun take some courses at a community college regarding physics and chemistry, later on down the road this could led to you going to a 4 year school for material engineering which I think would be a field of study which you would enjoy.. I would do that if I was better with the calculus courses needed but I digress
>>30064720
also something like this might be more of your style http://www.sarkardefence.com/products/tactical_clothing/nomex_assault_coverall/index.htm
>>30064720
anon you still here... alright guess the thread is dead
>>30064791
thanks for the help but id rather not have full body suit
Guess this is the thread to ask in. Can ANYONE tell me exactly what jacket Arnie is wearing in this picture. I'm a little floored that he was rocking Coyot Brown before it was cool.
>>30064889
>Coyot Brown
It's just brown, god damn it. And it may not even really be brown...
>>30064889
is it comfortable to wear grenades like that
do they hit your nipples too much when you walk?
>>30063479
mfw terrorists in air force ones
>>30064923
>It's just brown, god damn it
Looks extremely close to what the Marine Corps wears.
>And it may not even really be brown...
...it's brown...really.
>>30058946
Kek, it's pic related but with a T-shirt. I use it for protection from the sun and heat when trekking the plains area innawoods (Also provides great protection from mosquitos). The sun can get bitching hot without any cover in the tropica
>>30064981
>shemalegh
That...is a shemagh.
>>30056806
If I yell "CHEEKI" and I dont hear a "BREEKI" yall niggas gettin shot.
>>30056806
>Go to the Patch General
>Open the pastebin
>Go to pasta link
>Buy patches from their stores
>You are all now able to identify each others as /k/ommandos
>>30064997
Yeah, forgot how to spell it at the time of post.
>>30055471
Honestly haven't chaffed my legs in jeans in, well ever mios familios
>>30058971
Uh, buddy? We lost Vietnam. I don't think we should try replicating it.
>>30063436
my sister has one of those
>>30051119
Operate in comfort, bruh. Blue jeans, graphic tee that's a solid, dull color and all yer gear.
>>30056542
> TFW all of my pants are button fly and in my country this is completely normal
> TFW Jeans used to all be button fly but people want to save that three seconds so they opted for zippers
> TFW I never knew what Americans were talking about when they complained about zippers curling until recently
>>30051119
Whatever your comfortable in. /k/ overthinks the question a TON. Like, we've had threads that people take seriously about shit like grey man operating. In an urban environment, I'll tell you the best getup.
>Whatever you normally wear
>Throw a tactical vest on
>Wear hat/sunglasses/balaclava (optional)
Mind you, it can change for various reasons... but for the irregular urban force that's a good setup
>>30051119
I'm 6'5 and can't ever find any goddamn pants long enough for spider legs. I bought some kitanica pants last year on a super sale, when they magically had a run of factory seconds that were too long. They fit like a dream, and are the most comfortable tough pants i ever bought. They make excellent winter hunting pants.
don't ever pay retail tho.
>>30065240
Can we just call grey man casual operating because I think grey man is a dumb name since most of us are super secret agents trying to blend in with the local population since we are the local population
>>30065345
this.
>>30065177
>Implying we haven't replicated it again with Iraq and Afghanistan
Ended like pottery
>>30065345
Either way, the whole topic lends itself to some of the most autistic over analyzing on /k/
>>30065177
I'm not even the guy that you're responding to, but this argument is retarded. We kept fielding ALICE gear and won the Gulf War.
>>30063436
Still popular here in NE US. Idk why only among girls though. Occasionally guys but, my guess is gay.
