/cag/ - California Thread General
>neutered guns
>faggots
>muh gun control
Anyone in the central valley 559 area looking to do some shooting?
>>29700171
oh, cali thread!
I doubt all the bills will pass and the rest will probably be vetoed by base Brown but have you seen them? shit is scary. 805 fag. I'm selling Santa Barbara City flag patchs 8$. Pic is the only one I have on my phone, second from the right.
>>29700171
760 masterrace reporting
>>29700634
Brown might not be rapidly anti, but he is far from "based"
>>29700171
760 here. I'm game for anything. Just wanna do some buddy shooting.
>>29700642
That a local pic? Where'd ya take it?
>>29700171
someone needs to start a pastebin for these threads
>>29700661
He's based in comparison with some Cali politicians
>>29700171
No. Fuck off back to your liberal cancer state and suck some hobo cock.
Also, the Central Valley should have been a fucking nuclear testing range.
>>29700171
▪ Senate Bill 1407, authored by Senate President Pro Tem Kevin de León, would require anyone who assembles their own firearms to be licensed with the state and would prohibit the sale or transfer of those weapons. Brown vetoed a similar version.
▪ Senate Bill 1235, also by de León, writes a more explicit definition of ammunition. A law he previously championed to require in-person ammunition sales was thrown out in court for being too vague.
▪ Senate Bill 894, from Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson, D-Santa Barbara, would institute a five-day deadline for owners to report lost or stolen firearms. She said it would cut down on activity by “straw purchasers,” who illegally acquire guns for people prohibited from owning them and often falsely claim they were lost or stolen if the weapons are recovered after use in a crime.
▪ Senate Bill 880, co-authored by Sens. Isadore Hall, D-Compton, and Steve Glazer, D-Orinda, expands California’s 1989 ban on assault weapons to include semi-automatic rifles with ammunition magazines that can be easily detached with the press of a button. Brown vetoed a similar version.
▪ Senate Bill 1446, by Hancock, forbids the possession of high-capacity magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds. California outlawed their manufacture and sale in 1999, but grandfathered in weapons that residents already owned. Brown has vetoed similar language in the past, and Newsom has included a version in the proposed ballot measure.
>>29700642
760 has so many excellent places to shoot. I used to live in Bonsall, but not I'm in the central valley.
Mad jelly.
>>29700171
Get your local officials to be on your side, this means:
1. Vote in a sheriff who is gun friendly and wont enforce unconstitutional state laws.
2. Vote in a DA who won't vigorously prosecute unconstitutional state laws.
3. Stop voting for California "Republicans" and vote for pro gun reps regardless of party.
4. Give money/time to CRPA, they are doing the job the NRA won't do in CA.
5. Anyone but Gavin Newsom, anyone.
6. Live the gun life openly and invite others to join you, don't take them to /k/ meets though, we want them to stay pro gun.
>>29700760
>implying the central valley isn't one of the most pro gun areas in California
Go eat a dick
619 reporting in
need /k/ommando frineds in this gay ass state
>>29700171
>>29700803
For all the good it has done.
I lived there. Nothing... not one fucking thing in that entire state is worth preserving for any fucking reason. You should all be walled off and goddamned gassed. Half of the shit political problems this country has came from California. You... yes, fucking you, are the reason I worry about my constitutional right to bear arms being taken away. I hope that you and everyone you know dies screaming in a fucking fire.
Fuck you.
Fuck your state.
Fuck your "my part of this liberal tumor is really the cool part, anon"-meme.
No part of California is good. Burn it all.
>>29700884
does your mom know you are on the internet?
>>29700883
>>29700912
Dude, I live there for 2 1/2 years. Madera county. Literally in the middle of the Valley.
I shit you not, if I had a button that would kill everyone and everything in the state of California, I would starve to death slapping it over and over and over. There is nothing good about that shithole you inhabit. Not even the relatively conservative areas are worth fuckall.
Die in your shit state. Be sure to light it on fire first, though.
>>29700962
so that's a no.
>>29700962
Well, you lived here, which means you're contaminated too. Don't be a meme now, you aren't clean.
An hero, and make sure to stream it for proof.
>>29700978
That's a good argument.
Don't you have some Syrian rapefugees or Oaxacan hobbits to involuntarily surrender 15% of your yearly income to? Maybe you can pay them off with money you get for selling your shitty, bullet-buttoned AR at a local forced gun buyback in a year or two.
>>29701004
I left that shitbag paradise as soon as possible and came back to a Free state. Never looked back, either.
>>29701040
great! now stop shitposting.
>>29701068
Daw, thomebodyth thenthitive.
You should all be fucking ashamed of that shithole.
>>29701093
>>29700171
im 559 area too and ive been looking for blm land to shoot in. im not fond of public ranges and just want somewhere semi deserted to shoot at. preferably around springville
>>29701288
There's a spot out past Springville that I'm looking to go to. I can't seem to find it but I know it's either a short hike or a 4x4 out there.
I tried Google maps but it's tricky to scout land with a top down
I know there's one in Ponderosa but I'm not looking to go that far when Springville is an hour less.
>>29700171
559fag reporting
530/916 here
>>29700171
Based 663 reporting in. Any other OC fags here?
>>29700816
We can all dream of Peruta being upheld by the full 9th.
>>29701040
So you took your contaminated shit to another state? You're worse than the ebul Commiefornians that you're whining about. At least they contained themselves. You should probably just kill yourself. Light yourself on fire though, don't use a gun. We don't need another statistic.
>>29701354
Some rain we're getting, eh?
>>29700736
Off or Route 66 past helendale. Was a 1hr drive
>>29700785
I do love SBC. God tier for such a trash state
>>29701669
I WANNA KNOW
Wow so /k/ is worse than /pol/ with the "all californians suck" shitposting.
Some of us just try to make the best of what our nanny state government allows us to do.
>>29700884
aww. Somebody couldn't deal with the big meanie beaners in the valley.
Stay gone, faggot. Cunts as whiny as you belong in Ohio, or Vermont or some shit.
>>29702004
amen brotha. we're on the frontlines of the fight
>>29701093
You're perma buttmad because you lived here but didn't get to do any of the fun shit the rest of us get up to, right?
Protip: it's your bitchnigger sourpuss attitude that kept you out of the cool kids club. If you tried to be less of a cunt you might have had friends that did fun stuff.
Good luck, grumpypants. I bet the locals don't like you no matter where you go.
>>29702004
don't sweat it, the inferior always need somebody to hate. We're an easy target.
It gets old sometimes, defending this place, but at least it's interesting. Faggots that get as buttmad as the one in this thread are like a trip back to the good old days, when you could get the thenthitive types all riled up on the tubes.
>>29700642
>>29700722
>>29700785
>>29700806
I'm 760, in vista, don't know anywhere good to shoot other than shell canyon off the eight near Ocotillo
We could organize something.
>>29700171
>>29700171
im leaving cali in 2 days, i currently live in san bernardino county (one of the best on weapons), to move to OR, Wa county.
any tips on what toys to purchase while up there?
>>29702060
Vermont wants not your whiny bitchfag chaff
Ship him to oregon or something
>>29702478
Perris has a few open areas
>>29700816
Sac county is only shal issue because they got in trouble
>>29700930
Why is Nebraska so low?
>>29700962
>living in the shittiest part of California
Nigger that's your fault. No wonder you hate it.
>>29703019
That, and the new sheriff is pretty pro gun and doesn't give a fuck.
http://fox40.com/2015/08/12/concealed-weapons-permits-on-the-rise-in-sacramento-county/
He's also running for congress in the 7th district.
>>29700171
805 here
>>29700634
Venturafriend here, 805 is a big place...
Where is a good SB gun shop?
>>29703811
Good land guns ln Goleta are cool guys.
>>29700642
760 is the fucking place, hate that I moved to San Diego and now I'm getting the real Commiefornia experience.
>>29703019
How did they get in trouble?
>>29700661
I'd take Brown over the inevitable Newsom
>>29703898
Damn dude, just like IVE they have no selection or inventory.
>>29703939
Rip in peperooni anon
Also,
>based turners
>based bass pro
>>29700816
That feel when I live in based Butte County. Took the class, qualified with my G27 and G19, filled out and turned in my paperwork to the sheriffs office this Monday. Now I wait for 90 days.
>>29705044
$200+$50 fees class just to CCW. Feels terrible bro.
>>29705092
I'm out a grand total of $191.00.
>>29700786
"Pro gun reps regardless of party".
They are few and far between with the open primary system.
Posted a thread up for the Norcal Scout Meet on the 30th.
>>29705205
>>29706168
Fuck norcal.
Also I just don't want to drive 5 hours to go shooting with a bunch of reprobates.
>>29701354
>>29701669
Davis/Woodland/Sac?
>>29706187
Suit yourself.
>>29706187
Well fuck you too Salty Sally
>>29706199
>West of Sac
>>29701669
Fuck this bitch excuse for el nino. Irwindalefag reporting here.
707 reporting in
>>29706199
Folsom/eldorado hills
>>29705131
That's not possible unless you paid nothing for the class that you took, and your Sheriffs Department didn't install any fees either.
> One of the green counties
> Good Cause Statement was "Self protection"
> Had my CCW for a bit now
>>29706319
Right?! I bought a truck so I wouldn't have to ride a motorcycle in all this rain we haven't had.
>>29706897
Seriously. Aside from like...what? Two decent quality rainstorms this year? We've been having 85+ degree weather down here even in freaking January.
>>29706778
>>29702004
I absolutely refuse to purchase any of these abomination rifles. Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one.
>>29701354
Neat, I live in both of these area codes specifically.
>>29706199
East Sac
>>29706911
Because they aren't just a single screw (or maybe more on wraps) to remove? There really isn't a reason to use them unless you three gun or use 10+ mags though.
And why do you think you're a special snowflake when nearly everyone who owns a centerfire AR in CA also has a BB?
>>29706911
I admit the bullet button is tolerable (barely) on an AR, but fuck the AK radlock. I am almost genuinely considering redoing my VEPR to featureless just so I don't have to deal with it. Love the PR-S stock though. :(
>>29700642
Holy shit 760? Where in that are you at? I'm from Wrightwood
>>29706941
PRS stock should be fine
you're going to be hard pressed to find a faggot enough DA who will be able to convince someone that it's a telescoping stock
LOOK
IT GROWS TWO INCHES
HOLY FUCK
IT'S INVISIBLE
that's basically what that DA will be saying
![strike-indust-bullet-button[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/usmwAuy.jpg "strike-indust-bullet-button[1].jpg")
>>29706941
The side slotted ones are simple to use.
>>29706955
Yeah, I don't want to end up on anyone's radar's fiddling around with it. Especially on drives up to Angeles shooting range, the cops along the pasadena/monrovia area are really pull-over happy.
>Want full sized 9mm
>10 round magazine limit
>Fuck it, might as well buy a .45
We need more regular /k/ meetups. I propose 1st Tuesday of the month at Sunnyvale Rod and Gun (they're open to the public till 8pm) for people in and around the SF Bay Area.
>>29706971
Oh my god that looks so much better. Strike industries makes it? I'm so swapping this pos out the moment I can. Thanks for the heads up.
>>29701288
>>29700171
Never seen so many 559 fags in 1 thread
we should have a 559 meet up
Tulare country master race
>>29706935
I have access to an AR that has none of that shit, whoopty-fucking-do. I just think having an AR where the entire point of the AR has been removed is silly.
> Not a reason to use them.
Absolutely disgusting.
>>29706941
I'm not sure what the AK Radlock is, but I do have alcohol so I'm ready for it. What is it?
>>29706911
Rest assured no FFL I have ever been into in California will actually sell a "featureless" rifle. I built this one myself actually. Should Moonbeam sign the bullet button ban into law expect the manufacturers to switch to the Ar Mag lock to legally meet the definition of "disamebly of the firearm action" String a rubber band around the upper and lower and call it good. https://www.armaglock.com/
>>29706941
If bullet buttons get banned I don't know how anyone is going to sell anything other than an AR as far as standard rifles go without welding the mag or doing some insane bullshit. Not a big fan of that cheese grater mounting solution there but that looks pretty slick.
What we're going to end up with is a bunch of court cases that legally and shoddily define "disassembly of the action" on a case by case basis while the regular lawsuits get held up for the next decade trying to overturn this bullshit.
>>29706955
People have been convicted with less in this damn place IIRC. One thing I wanted to do is build an AR pistol with a Hammerhead or other non-pistol grip, no hand guard, and a bull barrel/welded muzzle with a regular mag release. Legal reasoning is DOJ had to specifically define "pistol grip" in previous cases (People V Hack and Hack). Since there is no "pistol grip" on the gun the magazine can't be outside of it, unless the DA want's to argue against Euclidean geometry, which I might actually pay to see if my life wasn't on the line.
>>29706903
I bought the truck (a shitty 98 ranger for 1200$) last sept thinking we were going to get tons of rain. If I had known that it would only rain as much as it had I would have just delt with getting wet. It has made range trips more enjoyable.
>>29707006
Well good for you for not living in CA or have a RAW then. It's not like people want this shit on their guns.
>>29707006
Basically it's a bullet button but for the ak. In my VEPR's case it's a shroud that sits over the mag release paddle. In order to release the mag you have to basically use something like a carkey or something similar, stick it vertically up into the shroud and pull back to engage the paddle so the mag can be dropped. that way it fits the definition of a "tool to remove the magazine" crap we have to put up with.
Definitely going to go with >>29706971
recommended. At least that you can insert a bullet/key sideways like a bullet button.
>>29707018
Agreed, I fully expect the propositions to pass and then remain in limbo while they get fought in the courts. Then again, considering these bills even get the fuck out of committee, i'm not exactly hopeful. Really fucking hope that bullet button bill gets vetoed though. :(
>>29707027
Truf, and the way maniacs drive down here, I'd imagine you feel a helluva lot safer inside a truck than on a bike.
>>29707018
Find the court case where someone got convicted. As long as you're not an asshat at a range, shooting on someone elses property, shooting on anything other than a gun range, nobody gives a fuck whats on your rifle.
>>29707027
sorry, Phone.
>>29707060
Yeah you'll probably get off on the technicality, it's more the assraping process you'll have to go through between the courts and eventually getting your gun back.
Fuck we technically have an ordinance now on the books in LA county that if a cop stops you and finds a grandfathered hi-cap mag in your possession, they can confiscate due to it being a "nuisance" and there's nothing you can do to get it back.
>>29707032
I use a tool on a key reel to keep the maglock from being too hard a damper. It works quick enough.
I have a video up on YouTube under "AK Reload Tool"
>>29707101
gun range officers don't call police if they see someone violating AWB. The way people get punished is police take your rifle saying it violates AWB, then you get to spend $20k in lawyer fees proving it doesn't.
As far as calguns has outlined, the only cases where legal trouble came into play with their AR is when they were being a moron, and/or the cop didn't know the laws.
>>29707122
Agreed with this Anon.
As long as you keep to yourself, you should be alright. Don't go blasting 3 round bursts or obvious illegal shit and you'll be alright.
No obvious NFA gear
>>29707122
Yeah that's pretty much my bigger concern is dealing with the 2nd part. So far I haven't run into any idiots. But for now i'll just play it safe.
>>29700816
I never realized how huge san bernadino county is, nor revierside. They dwarf LA, what the fuck? I moved to orange awhile ago, holy shit thats small. I moved to washington since but damn.
>>29707147
Again, calguns has a guide for morons like you. When you go to and from the range, don't speed, use your signal, don't give cops a reason to look up your ass for problems.
People at the range will not give a single fuck if you show up with a 40 round pmag and a 8 inch barrel AR with a sigbrace on your shoulder.
"keep to yourself" means don't raise attention from the wrong people. Gun range people generally aren't the wrong people. Nobody at the range will look at your AR and dial kikestein alerting the authorities about your magazine or stock.
>>29707028
What the fuck are you talking about? I never said I didn't live in CA.
>>29706893
No, it is possible. I paid $85 for a 4 hour class and $106 to the Butte County Sheriffs Office.
>>29707256
Kind of jelly. 106 is the state fee. You paid nearly nothing for the course.
>>29707283
Exactly, most "courses" know they're borderline mandatory and charge $250ish
>>29707304
That's not what I paid, but it wasn't to far from it. Man, that sucks deck.
Meanwhile, I have other state permits where it was literally like 50 bucks.
>>29707256
Whoa, dat Gen 1 G17
>>29707227
Then how do you have an ar that isn't featureless, BB'd, or a RAW then? You only have access out of state? You have an illegal assault weapon? You have a rimfire AR?
>>29707368
None of your business faggot.
>>29707379
You can just say you have an illegal AW. No one actually give a fuck.
>>29707368
I have a pre-ban AR with DOJ certificate.
>>29707333
My first gun I ever bought. Bought it used in '95
661 here.
Never fired a gun before.
Can I just watch?
>>29707405
Then you have a RAW then, which i already as either you being other of state OR having a RAW. Or did you not know that RAW stood for registered assault weapon?
>>29700634
I'm from 805 too
>>29707462
>yfw 805 includes three counties
commiefornia may suck ass but at least mah percussion is left right the fuck alone. Even ignored, which is awesome in my book.
>>29707449
I did not catch on to that. I did after the last post but, I didn't want to admit that I was having a brain fart or possibly a half-retarded.
>>29707404
Go away Mr. ATF Lawman
>>29707283
Damn! And I thought $85 was a lot.
>>29703811
just go to turners in oxnard
>>29707472
lucky bastard, i dont even know where to buy black powder guns for cheap, let alone the accessories. Anyone know a good place to get this shit cheap?
>>29707510
Yeah, I think I paid like 170 for mine? Then they wanted to charge a bunch for their ammo. I brought my own reloads and saved.
>>29707515
I don't mind turners, but IVE is better for PPT. Their selection is usually pretty shit with normal for cali prices. But they're cool about offering a few free range sessions with a purchase of a gun, even if the sales guys know very little about the guns.
I usually look on calguns for sales, and if I'm buying from someone in Santa Barbara, I'm not going to ask them to drive 30+ mins to meet me at turners or IVE.
>>29707449
I totally forgot to actually put my point in my reply. Even if I didn't have a RAW I wouldn't get a neutered AR. I'd rather have a non-fucked M1A than a fucked off AR.... Personal opinion. It just doesn't make sense to me to get a gun where it's own point has been removed.
>>29707538
I think IVE is for mall ninjas, they overprice everything because muh tatical fags will pay more money for it. The range at Paradise is much better and cheaper, too. I have good PPT deals with another local FFL so I can see why you like them for that reason.
There's also a gun show next weekend at the Ventura Fairgrounds that I'm saving up for.
>>29700760
They could be New York or New Jersey. At least Calicucks are making valiant (if not terribly effective) efforts fighting back against the bullshit.
>>29707472
> mommy Feinstein told me I can't have my 2nd Amendment rights but I still can have the stuff made a couple of centuries ago
> for now, anyway
> so lucky!
Never has a state been so cucked. You people are going to end up living on nutritious food paste in padded, fire-retardant cubicles with aerosolized Prozac pumped in through the air conditioning.
>>29707645
damn dude, you sound so butt flustered. If your not careful your boyfriend will find out your out of your dungeon.
>>29707623
IVE does cater a little more for mall ninjas, but in reality those are the guys that are fine with paying for ZEV accessories for their glock, which brings decent profits.
Shooters paradise is full of fuds and assholes. Theres a thread on calguns confirming that too, and people cancelling range memberships because SP only lets you shoot their overpriced ammo which is usually hollowpoints.
First experience there I asked some questions about buying a gun, and the guy said if I didn't know what I wanted I was at the wrong store and walked away to help someone else. Fuck those guys. I'm never going back.
I've been to the ventura gun show twice, and after seeing the insane prices, $15 for parking and entry, kids running around loose, BZZZZT, and womens craft stands, I'll never need to go back.
>>29700786
>vote in a Sheriff
>vote in a DA
You think CA gun owners aren't voting this way? Hell most CA Republicans would want this to happen. The problem is we're such a minority in every county.
>>29701372
Yep, Fullerton here.
310.
Where do you people shoot? It takes me over an hour to get out of city.
Anyone been to deliverance or angeles shooting ranges? Im trying to see how far my AR build can touch accuratly and obviously trying to check out my skills. I heard they have 600 yrd lanes im wondering if its worth it or any expirences with them in general.
>>29708835
I can vouch for Angeles. It's a wonderful range. The main rifle range goes out to 600 or 700 yards I believe with plenty of concrete benches to set up your rifles. You can drive right up to the bench to drop off your gear and then park fairly easily.
Range fee on the weekends I believe is 25$ plus 8$ for a target frame if you don't bring your own but you get it back fi you don't damage it. Line breaks are fast and the staff aren't dicks.
Only negative thing is that it gets really damn crowded on weekends, but that's every range. I prefer them to Burro Canyon despite living next to the Burro range.
>>29706778
Doesn't the foregrip remove the featureless part?
>>29708845
Main thing though to make sure your visit to angeles goes smoothly. Make sure to fill out the waiver form before you do anything. They have a stack of them right outside the shooting office and then you bring it inside and pay. It will save you a lot of hassle of reaching the front of the line and then having to go back out and fill out a form and get back in line.
>>29708854
According to ATF and CADOJ AFG isn't a vertical grip.
What I do want confirmation on is if I could mount a true VFG horizontally off my rail. ATF might get me an FTB letter, but DOJ nor any of the DAs in CA will rule on the legality of anything unless they are trying to prosecute you.
>>29706952
Victorville my nigger
Who /831/ here?
is the single action revolver exemption still in effect?
>>29709167
>needing an Assault Revolver
You dont need that Cowboy, Just turn them in
>>29709173
AWWWW BUT I LOVE COLT SAAs!!! also Im I really want a Ruger vaquero
>>29709192
I cant decide if I should get a Blackhawk in 44 or a Vaquero in 357. I like both but im at an impass
I'm leaning for the Vaquero because I want a no BS beater woods gun for camping fishing hiking and such and I could see it getting dropped and breaking the adjustable sights I prefer weapons with really sturdy over built sights for such a reason if I could find a Blackhawk with sturdier looking sights Id go for it other wise well Vaquero I'm not planning on doing competition shooting or anything just SHTF and woods shit so fixed is accurate enough for me
>>29702968
Organize my niggas, 760 San Marcos here, can/will pick up. Truck hold three total including me
>>29700867
Truncated axes of peace
>>29700883
Interdasting
>>29707178
SB county is bigger than Maryland, I believe.
>>29707187
>tfw California transplant
>tfw living in Chicago
>tfw own two scurry sult ARs
I know that feel. At least I can shoot in a free county.
>>29701669
>Godzilla el nino predicted
>gojira el nino arrives
are there any places in the bay area that have a scar 17s for sale? im having trouble finding one
>>29700171
559 reporting in
>>29708845
>>29708860
Wednesday afternoon they have like a half off price for like 10 bucks or 7.
Last time I went a deer went on the rifle range around the 300 yard line, and eventually we got tired of ceasefire and the RSOs were saying to shoot like 200 yards.
And there was belt fed crew .50 bmg m2 that was semi on the range that day lol. Love to see what that do to a deer.
>>29707018
No I actually seen one of these featureless monstrosity at a gun show for sale
Anyone in orange county around?
Any 909/951?
I found a decent outdoor range in the IE:
http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/
>>29700171
Hey, imma 559 area code
hey guys, moving to the bay area for work in a few months. What tips do you have for someone moving into the area? Would it be cheaper to buy a compliant gun right now while I live in a free state and transfer it in? Or should I wait till I arrive to buy a compliant rifle?
Additionally, how is ammo availability for 7.62x39 versus .223? Right now most places sell the basic range shit for under $6 a box.
>>29707005
Yesss, ever been to rifle/pistol club on Auberry rd outside Clovis?
>>29700171
I'm ashamed at how long it took me to get that flag. No right to bear arms. Heh.
>>29712156
Clovisfag here, that's where I always go shootan.
>>29712060
YES!! This is where me and my dad spent our weekends straight blasting in the late 80's and 90's when we used to live in Pomona.
>>29712189
Where would the best place be fora 559 meet up?
Any of you Califags ever been out to A Place to Shoot in Saugus? I've been looking for a new place to test out my new Saiga.
>>29709625
>tfw California transplant
>tfw living in Chicago
Why did you trade one liberal shithole for another?
>>29700884
>Implying CA doesn't just spontaneously combust constantly.
>>29706971
Its perfect with the ultimate bullet button tool.
>>29706921
Placer, El Dorado, or Sutter?
>>29712231
The Fresno pistol and rifle club not that guy but another Fresno fag
>>29712231
We usually go deep into the mountains and camp/shoot.
>>29701288
The closest place you can go to is up past Pine Flat. Lots of good spots if you're willing to drive. Drive up there and go down big creek road, it's a dirt road. This will take you down a path for a while and it'll open up to a nice established shooting area to the left, can't miss it.
>tfw 925
>tfw USI is still closed
>>29712246
A job offer, and I was more or less a Bloombergpilled nogunz at the time. One of my major dicking around at work activities these days is looking at land for sale in Utah/Arizona.
>>29712136
All semiauto rifles have to have 10 round mags (or pinned 30) and a bullet button no matter what. Same goes with handguns on the mags. You can't bring them in or register them otherwise.
If your job is temporary then don't bother registering them. If it's long term then you have only a few days to register them.
>>29712136
Also buy a bunch of off roster handguns before you move (10 round mag limit only) and sell them all for 200% profit when you get here.
>>29712136
My advice to you would be to buy as many handguns as you can afford. New gen4 glocks are selling for $800, P239's are easily $1000, basically anything that isn't a revolver can sell for 20%-80% markup.
You'll pay for your move and still make a profit. Go to calguns and look in the for sale section, look up common handguns and you'll see the insane prices, and they always sell for more than MSRP, even used.
>>29712369
>I don't know shit but I still give advice.
Go to calguns and do some research.
>>29702004
California as a state sucks. most Californians on /k/ are pretty based
>>29712417
>I shitpost instead of giving any help.
>>29712412
Dont I need to be an FFL if im buying and selling guns for profit?
>>29712471
Honestly, going to calguns to do research is giving solid help. That info is reviewed and often published by 2A attorneys who are willing to defend that information.
Telling him false information because you're a dumbass and don't know any better isn't giving help. CA gun laws are vague, ambiguous and often confusing, in your original post, you were wrong on all issues.
>>29712422
Not all of us.
>>29712505
supposedly you can sell 5 and not get looked at at all. selling 6 doesn't magically make some ATF guys pop out and arrest you but if you were to get caught and had sold 12 or something like that they'd hit you with something
>>29712505
In the eyes of the ATF, yes if you intend on buying and selling solely for profit. However, if you buy a bunch of handguns, and later sell them without the original intent of selling them for profit, then no you're not breaking any law. ATF would be very hard pressed to prove this if you buy a minimal amount. This amount has never been defined, however individuals have been known to do this with dozens of guns per year and not be prosecuted.
>>29712369
Are there no hordes of californians who just drive to a bordering state, pick up ammo and regular cap mags, and just drive back in, felony be damned?
>>29700816
what does virtual shall issue mean?
>>29712412
This sounds good in theory but is it really a good idea to buy a bunch of handguns now, bring them into the state, pay any registration fees, only to sell them later?
>>29712351
I hear they're going ahead with the new rifle range construction. Then again, i also heard there was membership infighting about it that got it delayed a lot?
>>29712555
Ammo isn't an issue; several in state places sell 1k cases of reloads, advertised on the internet. You can also buy ammo from anywhere in the country and have it shipped here, except for LA City and a couple counties up north. Normal ammo "restrictions" still apply, unless you're buying well over 20k rounds at one time or regularly, nobody cares.
There isn't really a market for people to buy normal capacity mags out of state and driving them in; they wouldn't be able to sell them. I'm sure they buy them out of state and use them for personal use or stash them away for reasons.
>>29712563
if you want to make free money yes
more importantly he should be buying any gun he might thing he wants because getting it after you're in california amounts to jumping through flaming hoops
>>29708751
310 here too. I've been holding off getting anything bigger than 7.62x39 just because there's basically no where to go that allows bigger calibers.
So far I've been going to LAX range and Sharpshooters. Pity Sharpshooters don't allow anything beyond pistol calibers and maybe 12 gauge.
>>29712563
Every time I've done a face to face transfer, they basically don't care where the gun came from, they only photocopy the seller's ID, and produce him a bill of sale (transfer). There is not background check on the gun even to see if it was ever FFL'd to the original owner.
Its just not necessary or an actual worry to think about "registering" them to yourself before selling.
>>29712586
Well if Newsum's inititive on background checks for ammo gets all 600,000 signatures by June and gets voted yes on the ballot, ammo prices are gonna go up and online vendors will most likely ship to FFL or not at all.
>>29700884
California's very pretty. We shouldn't let the enemy have it.
>>29712646
>ammo prices are gonna go up and online vendors will most likely ship to FFL or not at all.
NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIN
This kills the snowflake-calibers.
>>29712646
All that sales tax gone, they are so friggin stupid. It's like discouraging hunting and fishing and then they cry about all these unfunded programs and agencies that depended on that revenue.
>>29712207
Post a burner email and we'll invite you into the Slack group.
>>29712611
>>29712600
Yeah it makes sense. Hopefully you can see why I am a little uneasy about the whole process. I've been eyeing a P320 so I suppose Ill just buy that for myself now and sell it before I leave. Just gotta find 10 round mags.
>>29712711
10 round mags aren't that hard to find on brownells or midway, they're typically the same price, so if you wish to sell it, include at least one. If you intend on keeping normal capacity mags for personal use, just keep them to yourself and refrain from doing 17 round mag dumps at the range. use common sense and be conservative about what you have.
Pistol mags are nice because they don't have the extended size sticking out the bottom of the gun.
>>29712339
Can you drop a pin on the map
>>29713068
This is the best I can do. This is past pine flat lake and the dirt road is right when you get to the bridge. Beyond here it's pretty much dirt road and not much to see in map view. You just gotta go to see it.
Can someone help me with federal law and CA laws regarding open carry and concealed carry while on Los Padres National Forest?
I'm still a little confused, but as far as I can tell by the .gov websites, I can concealed carry and open carry, but not allowed to shoot unless 1/4 mile away from buildings and camp grounds.
I'm not looking to make a 1man shooting range, but it might be nice to go through a magazine after a short hike.
For anyone willing to drive in the LA area, they got some WW2 planes buzzing around.
http://www.wmof.com/
Does anyone know the legality of buying rifles from out of state? I'm interested in getting an SL-7, but the listings I've seen say they won't sell to California even though it should be considered a featureless rifle.
>>29713442
I think Federal law says its alright, doing a legal face to face transfer. CADOJ would probably frown upon that.
In fact, I think you're supposed to FFL it to yourself if you, for example, bring a legally owned gun into the state.
>>29712060
>http://www.lytlecreekrange.com/
909? Just go into BLM shooting areas inna desert. That's what I do.
>>29713442
it has to go thru an ffl if you are a cali resident
its legal for non residents to buy longguns out of state but they have to follow the laws of the buyers state
even if you drove to Nevada(note most shops bordering ca will tell you to fuck off when you show your license) and bought a rifle in a store it would have to be mailed to a ffl in ca before you can take possession
you could do a private transfer between 2 people but you are breaking some law with a minimal chance of getting caught
>>29712555
Honestly they just stay there.
Dual state residency is a thing and there are a ridiculous amount of cars with license plates from all across America here in California.
>>29711230
Yeah m8, OC reporting in
>>29712675
Fuck them. I'm happy that their idiotic social policies are fucking them deep in their assholes.
>>29712561
The letter of the law says may issue, but the county sheriffs have publicly committed to give a CCW permit to anyone who meets certain objective criteria--training course, passing a test, etc.
>>29712670
This senpai. If Arizona annexed California and installed an occupation government it would instantly become THE most based state.
>>29713652
>oh look, sales tax revenue has dropped a little
>lets raise sales tax more
>fuck everyone
>lets have ca approve a 12% salary raise for government workers
You really think the CA government would just lay down and eat a reduction in income?
FUCK THIS ISN'T /POL/
>>29713716
Their income tax revenue dropped again this year too, asshole. They raise taxes frequently. They love taxes of all kinds. I'm leaving this shithole soon, but I'm happy to see it get worse before I do. Suits the inhabitants just fine. Let them reap what they have sowed.
I'm moving to the bay area pretty soon.
I know getting a CCW as a civilian there is almost impossible. What about people who are in the national guard? Does it get any easier?
>>29707528
The internet?
You can get the shipped right to you you know.
>>29713853
Short answer: no.
Being in the military (as it should) doesn't get you any preferential treatment.
>>29713853
You could literally handle millions of cash dollars as part of your business and be unable to get a CCP there. They would rather see you get robbed and gutted than allow you to exercise your rights because it would force them to tacitly admit that normal citizens might have need to defend themselves from the criminals that the liberals keep on our streets.
>>29710944
Well that's interesting, what part of the state and any idea what config it was in? I went to a show up here in Norcal and didn't find much. Jerky everyone, tasers going off every 30 seconds, lots of old fudd looking guys that were still well meaning. Tactless patches, and lots of blank AR and 1911 frames.
>>29713652
They have near record surpluses. Tax revenue is way up. Brown actually "balanced" the budget the absolute madman.
>>29713236
Here?
>>29714092
>Record surpluses
>California
lol, pick one
http://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-400-billion-debt-worries-analysts-6812264.php
https://ballotpedia.org/California_state_budget_and_finances
http://www.usdebtclock.org/state-debt-clocks/state-of-california-debt-clock.html
Yeah, California is doing awesome.
>>29714212
Yeah you're real close. If you go up a little further you'll see a similar spot with power lines on the map. It'll be to the left and you drive down a little dip to get there.
>>29714042
The two most distinct things I remember from that hideos thing was a2 stock and monsterman grip
>>29713442
Out of state FFLs don't like to ship to CA, even if it's through an FFL, becuase even if something is legal, most FFLs don't want to be in CA's seller database (California Firearms Licensing Check). It costs nothing to them though, just some paperwork. I guess they don't want to be trackable by CA or something.
If you can't convince an FFL to get a CFLC, the best way to go about it is to go through a 3rd party FFL. The only one that comes to mind is a guy on calguns called audiophil2, but there are a few that does something like that.
>>29700634
>>29703811
>>29707462
My niggas. Enjoying the weather? :^)
>Simi Valley represent
>kek
>>29700171
530 Buttehole county here
>>29700171
Will be ordering parts for an AR Im building, first gat I'll ever have and I'm stoked.
Found out one of my friends is a gun enthusiast and has a jig to mill out 80% lowers and is gonna hook it up for me, only thing I'm having trouble choosing is an upper assembly.
I want a good barrel but Im not sure what I should get, any advice guys?
>>29715015
lovely 72 degrees and sunny. Can't beat it. I hope it doesn't get back up to 85 again.
>>29715125
67 here. Been hitting mid-70s. Ready for the possible rain on Thursday and Friday.
Love the coastal weather some days.
>>29705044
Chico? Oroville here
>tfw both next door neighbors were caught with drug labs
>>29702004
Holy shit that rifle triggered the shit out of me
>>29700642
Damn didn't know this many /k/ people lived around me.
So what exactly can I have and can't have in Cuckfornia?
I'm still building my AR with all the cool shit on it, just curious
>>29716080
You can have any pistol you want
As far as rifles, anything you want so long as it complies with the AWB flowchart. For ARs, anything you want with 10 rds and a bullet button. No AWB features means you can use a regular mag release and previously owned "high cap" magazines.
Go to calguns, theres a flowchart and a literal wealth of knowledge there.
>>29716134
Will do, will this recent gun law, AB 1664 I think, have any more infringing effect on guns here?
>>29715184
Chico here, your shooting range off Larkin is dope. I almost never see a range officer there.
>>29716209
incredibly so
you wouldn't be able to buy anything new if it's too scary
if you want anything remotely scary, better buy it before the bill kicks in
anything that would be legal because of a magazine lock will no longer be legal if you don't have it already
pretty much my whole paycheck for the rest of the year is going to firearms
>>29716209
yeah, the bills have a 50/50 chance of passing, but its still panic inducing causing people to buy like no tomorrow before all 10 round semi auto guns get turned into assault weapons. people say brown will veto them as he's done before, but other say brown may let some pass, and the guy after brown will fully endorse them. In CA, theres always going to be a "buy now" mentality because of the impending doom, which for the last 10 years has proven true.
Me personally, I have over 1000 rounds, 2 ARs, and a couple pistols, and want to move out of state, so I'm not really concerned. But in reality, I'm not going to get gouged because of potential legal bullshit.
>>29716451
The only good thing (and it's not even good) about CA bills is that since the rest of the country is not facing them (minus any presidential election based panic) the prices won't be high outside of the state and you can just have guns sent to your ffl
>>29714287
Hence the "" around balanced.
>>29716481
except most FFLs in CA are either tired of losing sales or need to pay overhead. Local place charges $100 for FFL transfers because they need to call the selling FFL, make sure they have proper paperwork for CA, fax it all over, send gun, verify, then sell. So its adding easily $100 to a gun from a huge online seller.
>>29716657
I do my transfer at a antique shop/ffl and they charge me 65 bucks no tax.
>>29717294
There was a kitchen table FFL that I use to transfer at 65 for first, 10 per extra. Doesn't collect tax and doesn't charge for mag blocks (He "blocks" them pretty good).
He got shut down for some reason. Probably has something to do with doing SSEs without actually converting them or not collecting tax.
>>29717294
gz, on finding some old dude with an FFL license that is totally cool with trying to transfer guns at a minimal fee. The new bills are trying to shut those types of people down.
>>29716657
it's still going to be less than retard mode prices post-sandy hook. my local FFL charges $60 which is still pretty lame but better than paying the shop $200 more for something when I could still come out on top buying out of state
>>29714868
A lot of it stems from being afraid of the constantly shifting atmosphere in California. I think a lot of FFLs would prefer to not need to pay attention to the new bullshit laws that get worse every year here. Easier to not pay attention and not do business with the state rather than risk sending something illegal into California and risking legal trouble. I personally hate it when I can't get perfectly legal shit sent to me in California, but I can't fault the decision to not want to deal with this shithole's laws.
>>29717414
I know exactly who you are talking about. One of the greatest losses for the area. He was the closest to me too.
>>29710814
Sweet, I'll definitely try to take some days off to go there in the middle of week. Right now all I can manage is saturdays and sundays in a pinch.
>>29717479
A few months after he closed down he added me on linkedin. Maybe he massed email added or something.
>>29700642
760 Yucca/Joshua nigger reporting.
>>29714868
Can vouch for audiophil2, I got my mark 23 through him and he even took care of the mags and barrel for me to bring it in during the last Single-Shot exemption craze at the end of 2014.
>>29715122
Depends on what you want to do with it. Want to experiment with long range shooting or just messing around? If it's your first you can't go wrong with PSA uppers. Most of the time you can find them on sale for less than 500 bucks for a solid one. Other than Rock River Arms sells good ones. I guess it really depends on your budget. What dosh do you have to play with?
>>29717594
>Single-Shot exemption
whats this shit about?
>>29713285
If you have a CCW, you are legally allowed to CC on federal land. HOWEVER, YOU WILL COMMIT A FELONY IF YOU ENTER A GOVERNMENT BUILDING WHILE CCing. THIS INCLUDES RANGER STATIONS AND RESTROOMS.
>>29717639
It was a way for dealers to sell off-roster guns pre-2015. If a pistol was blocked to be single-shot, it was exempt from the roster requirements. The exemption was removed though, and replaced with a much narrower one
>>29717639
Handguns that can only fire one shot at a time and had a barrel over... 10? inches were exempt from needing to be on the handgun roster to be sold by a CA FFL. So to get guns not on the list a shop would install a mag block and a longer barrel, sell the gun to the buyer, and after all the paperwork was done the buyer was legally free to put the gun back into the original configuration.
