Nutaku sucks. Switch to dmm.

>>15222328
It's true that DMM is much better, but if people haven't realized that yet, they deserve Nutaku.

Just let them be.

Thread sharing was a mistake.

>>15222406
Indeed.

>>15222417
>>15222406
not really both treads would be ded if not

How is Bera as an archer? Already have AW Spica and Bashira though.

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FKG needs more onee-san type characters.

It's good to see that Shuz is still drawing for it, too. He did Erythrina recently, and I have high hopes for any subsequent girl he may draw.

>>15222406
It's still talking about DMM Aigis anyway.

>>15222489
Isn't it a lolicon moege anyway? I don't think it'll get many nee-sans, ever
I do want a nee-san centric game though

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I'm a new player that just started two days ago. Do you think I should try my luck on a 10 pull gacha? getting gems is fairly easy at least for a new player but I think I might regret it later.

>>15222525
>lolicon moege
Not really. They have lolis but they are hardly the only main focus of the game.

>>15222525
>lolicon moege
It actually has a good diversity of characters, including both sadistic and spoiling varieties of onee-san. There's something for everyone.

It only started being loli-heavy when the developers asked their audience about what kind of girls they would like to see, and their audience naturally and almost unanimously agreed that FKG needed more loli characters.

>>15222567
Why are they a bunch of pedophiles?

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>>15222539
Roll once the new highlight gacha comes around, since it has Cymbidium, the single strongest gold in the game (and also the single cutest gold in the game).

If you fail to get her, abandon hope and reset accounts on DMM for that 10% rainbow chance beginner's campaign instead.

>>15222576
It comes with having good taste.

Admit it, you'd do questionably legal things to Viola, Daisy, Hanamomo or Nerine too.

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What happens when they run out of flower names?

>>15222616
There's like a gorillion different kinds of flowers, they aren't going to run out.

>>15222616
Probably will start naming girls after random shit to keep printing money. Thats what usually happens.

>>15222616
They go to fruits and shits

>>15222539
Do it, roll that limited Gacha and see what you get.
Is not like you are losing anything and FKG is easy enough to be rolled even without rainbows.
Just add someone decent as helper at the begin.

>>15222616
Both Hanakotoba and Victorian flower language are very extensive; even if they continue at their current pace of ~9-10 girls/month, they won't run out of flowers until we're well into the next decade. After that, they could just use flowers without flower meanings, which would last them for around 3000 years at a rate of 10 girls/month.

Familiar plants that they haven't used yet include begonia, daffodil, hyacinth, oleander, impatiens, petunia, tuberose, asphodel, passionflower, daylily, yarrow, angelica, hemlock, verbena, milkweed, cinquefoil, rockrose, elm, beech, willow, linden, laurel, vanilla and many more. But it's great that they're adding both common and unusual flowers at a rapid pace, I've mentioned a few unrepresented flowers a few months back and many of them (or their close relatives) got into the game since then.

>>15222802
how do you know all this shit

>>15222878
after starting FKG I went to botanical Uni?

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Anyone here play Brave girls on DMM? I think the girls are pretty cute there and I like their H scenes, they aren't that special but there's a charm on how cute and sometimes detailed they are.

>>15222878
By opening one of these hanakotoba websites and looking at the plants that have flower meanings, of course.

Also, speaking of these sites, I can't seem to find the flower meaning for Harpagophytum/ライオンゴロシ, the heroine for the third LN.

>>15222539
Wait until Tuesday for Cymbidium. A half-decent 10+1 can really help when you're new, but it's worth waiting for her to show up in the pool first.

>>15222589
>it has Cymbidium

She is not even in the Nutaku version yet and srely not in the limited gacha.

>>15222925
You sound like a real faggot.

>>15222939
>>once the new highlight gacha comes around
Is English too hard for you?

>>15222589
Rolling for Cymbidium just because Megane is justice.

>>15222977
I don't know... Cymbidium is cute but that 6* is kind of meh. I'll be sad if I get her instead of someone else.

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>>15222589
>Megane
No thanks, would sell her if I rolled her even.

>>15222995
I just want to roll a Megane team, one day.

>>15222999
You monster.

>>15222995
Cymbidium is single best 5*, the one you definitely want to have on your strong team. Its irrelevant what other girls are on highlight.

>>15223021
Who cares about stats in FKG ? I just want cute waifus !

>>15223016
>I just want to roll a Megane team, one day.
The GW campaign is still going on, just get Mimosa as your selection rainbow and make a Mimosa/Iris/Cymbidium/Sweetpea/Centaurea team.

>>15222910
I'm still playing the game. I'm glad in how they handled the game in comparison to 99hime.

What are the must roll blacks in dmm aigis?

>>15223224
If you have enough free money to roll specific blacks, you may as well roll all of them.

>>15223237
If there's specific ones then it's better to roll during the banner for those specific ones.

>>15223240
Explain it?

>>15223298
I can't even read moonrunes and I think it's pretty obvious. She's happy that Danchou is giving her a teddy bear at first. Then she looked at the affection UI and realized that he's giving other girls literal gemstones.

>>15222321
Vera a cute. Would bang.

>>15223947
I just sold her.

For FKG, when was Ivy released in the DMM version?

>>15221919
is he referring to the sandpanda gallery?

>>15224085
The first Christmas event.

Which is immediately after Fatsia, so she'll show up in the revival gacha very soon.

>>15224378
I am.

>>15224378
He's referring to my penis

Is the golden ticket in DMM Kanpani feasible to do at all levels or is it harder than the normal exp hall ticket?

>>15225112
Considered the massive amount of exp it gives, I think it means for a very high level party.

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Just noticed that her SD sprite got revamped

>>15223529

Also, the used items sale. "I got this book as a gift from Danchou. It is surplus, so I'm selling it now"

>>15225477
Looks like Canna got some books instead of jewels by accident.

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>second gold rush mission
>run about 14 times
>literally nothing but bronze soldiers
why does this have such shitty drops compared to the first mission

>>15225992
I've been running the first mission since it came out and I still don't have the silver heavy.

But I don't really mind because it gives armors and Liselotte copies, both of which I need.

>>15226000
>liselotte copies
Please elaborate, I only got the normal completion drops for it. Does that have something to do with the second part of the gold rush banner, with the platinum units?

>>15226018
After the first time you 3-star it, each map gains an extra platinum enemy that may drop herself.

>>15226022
Ahh, that would explain why the pegasus rider started showing up on the monkey map. Still hasn't dropped herself, of course.

Why is Nutaku so unbelievably bad about communicating outages for their games? I mean, other than "Because Nutaku."

Was trying to find out why FKG was down but there's no notice on the game's page, nor their Facebook or Twitter. Such a useless company.

Oh well. I'll just go grind for the revival girl on DMM FKG instead. No real loss.

>>15226171
I didn't even notice. Seems like they implemented the player choice spotlight gacha. Sakura, Toad Lily and Orchid Wydler. Meh, no free draw or anything heh.

>>15226171
Yes, that MT was completely out of nowhere.

Is Odette more likely to drop because of the map cost relative to the other maps or do all of the maps generally have the exact same drop rates no matter what? I really want her but with how much stamina I spent just to get one Lisellotte and I haven't seen the Pegasus Rider once I don't think it's likely I'll get it without crippling my chance at getting anything else the entire event.

>>15226409
chance of drops may wary

>>15226653
That's what I figured. Do you know if anybody maintains a page to calculate the drop rates?

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Wait, a minute, Death Waltz is not what Oncidium's skill is called. It reads ブラッディマスカレイド, Bloody Masquerade. Not only did they censor blood from Lavender's scene, they literally censored the fucking mention of blood.

This is why I like Nutaku, they may be retarded and incompetent but at least they're retarded and incompetent in new and refreshing ways. Somebody in the Nutaku office is leading an honest-to-goodness anti-blood crusade.

>>15227057
Blood was never allowed in Nutaku games.))

>>15227057
It is very complicated. You would never understand even if it was explained to you. Just sit tight and you will be in good care. Just remember it is in your best interest they do it.

So is the new limited gacha just another priority gacha with 0 increase in gold drop even?

Looks like FKG is completely broken, when I refresh the page I lose stamina, and gatherings are bugged too. Just lost ~100 stam without doing any mission...

>>15227057
Blood feels make queasy @_@

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The Necromancer is freezing

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>>15227406
>that prince

>>15227285
Yes. This is the same for every gacha in the history of FKG, so you better get used to it soon.

(Except the time they temporarily doubled gold chances and later made it permanent, but good luck convincing Nutaku to do that).

>>15227406
I like how she keeps a tinyskull necklace. Whose grave did Metus rob to get her hands on these things? Fairies?

>>15227427
do fairies even leave skeletons?
What if the fairy genocide questline was legit? When combining the fairies for that exp they get drained of life and leave spooky little skeletons

>>15227427
Newfag here. Isn't it FKG's devs who decide the rates and not Nutaku?

>>15227525
>spooky little skeletons
I want to see a version of Celia's AW skill with these. A necromancer with a tiny fairy lich tossing tiny lich crosses.

>>15227585
Nutaku has some leeway in what it can do, since they're "developing" FKG (unlike Aigis) and can evidently give flower stones at will. But Nutaku also confirmed that FKG gacha will follow the DMM model, and 6% gold/0.5% rainbow is what the DMM model has (it used to be 3% gold, they doubled the chances since then) so you're stuck with that for the foreseeable future.

>>15227427
Isn't it 6% in DMM too? But used to be 3%?

>>15227616
Aaaand never mind.

>>15227616
Ah didn't know that, thanks!
Well, I hope at the very least this facilitates the events getting rolled out more smoothly than previous games. (But probably not.)

>>15227655
Well, Nutaku's FKG has been decent on the event front (at least until they have to translate event stories, they haven't been adding character quests and their translations are still a mess so I'm not sure if they can handle regular story translations every two weeks). But Nutaku also has a tendency to make incredibly stupid decisions with alarming frequency, so it's a good idea not to pay it until it reverts the current censorship in FKG and goes for say, a month or two without doing something patently retarded.

Even if you intend to pay, you're better off waiting for the 5000 DMM point deal anyway. Speaking of which, it's also a good idea to make a few back-up accounts on DMM, in case you get a rainbow from the silver/gold tickets you get. They give you two silver tickets with 1.5% rainbow chances and a gold ticket with a 7.5% rainbow chance, so you have about 10% chance for a rainbow within your first week of play.

>>15227687
Unfortunately I already threw excess gold at it, but I'll take your advice and wait it out to see how they handle story events and character quest frequency.
The 5000 DMM point deal sounds good and I do hope they bring that over soon, along with equipment slot increasing items.

I'm a fag who likes to read the >story so playing on a DMM is a bit painful since I will actually snailpace translate my way through the dialogue.

Is it worth trying to farm the trapper/Odette for 6 stam or should I just be trying to get more Liselotte?

Also what are the drop rates for the plat units?

>>15227857
Liselotte is probably the worst plat soldier. But still good to have for fast +15UP, it comes much faster than gold ones
I rarely got more than two copies of a plat from spamming them during gold-rush, so I don't think its such a great idea

>>15227857
Drop rates for Plats during Gold Rush are pretty bad IIRC ~8%-10%. Unless you have Kikyou or Matsuri of course. Then it's more like 24%-30%.

>>15227875
For the 30/2 maps anyways. The 90/12 ones have 100% drop I think, and 50/6 probably have slightly higher rates as well.

>>15227795
There's nothing wrong with reading the story, FKG has little in the way of gameplay and mostly retains players through cute girls, story and excellent user treatment (on DMM at least).

But one nice thing about the game is that its recollection album allows you to read event stories even without playing them. So if Nutaku shows no sign of improvement, it would be easy to log in every two weeks and read the new event stories without having to actually play the EN version.

>>15227869
Well, it's not like there's anything better to do with the stamina for the week, you can always do Phalanx 2 and the dailies later. Might as well get a few copies.

Can someone tell me what this Black Awakening Split is all about in DMM? Is it like a second awakening you can make for them instead? And how does it work if you a,ready awakened a Black.

>>15228324
You can AW2 any time after AW. You pick one of two paths for the character. You get a duplicate for black units so that you can get the other path.

>+500 stamina from a gathering
t-thank you i guess

>>15228324
>>15228387
Some other info. Looks like the character gets new AW Art after their second Awakening, one for each split. Only Blacks get to pick their split. Seems like Gold/Plat are locked into one sub-class. So Blacks will get two new arts, Sapphires/Plats/Golds only get a single new art.

So like Katie will probably get a Defensive Class, while Aria gets an Offensive Class. While Altia will get to choose which one she does because she's a Black. Hopefully this doesn't mean there's about to be huge powercreep in the difficulty of events.

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>>15228399

>>15228387
>>15228410
Any news on the cost?

Is it something ridiculous like 3 CC golds/3 plats?

>>15228410
>Hopefully this doesn't mean there's about to be huge powercreep in the difficulty of events.

That was my initial concern, but the fact that there's no level requirement has me hoping that it doesn't reset your level at all. If so, there shouldn't be any power creep.

>>15228399
Not the first time today I've heard about that. And I'm also hearing some people are losing stamina from gatherings now?

>>15228458
Yeah apparently when you gather or reload the game you either randomly lose stamina or get 2x your max stamina.

>>15228454
3 plats is easy, just farm up copies from events. I just fed off a dupe Liz just for exp since mine was already mincost.

>>15228458
They've already confirmed that it doesn't reset your level.

>>15228483
Perfect. Then yeah, I expect no power creep. Possibly (but not likely) a shift in stat distribution, but overall balance by level should be similar.

>>15228552
I am really dying for some power creep in events, they're all so easy except for Furfur.

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This Odette mission is bretty gud.

>>15229764
lol, I'm using very same setup for this map (spica on top, kate on top-left and so on).

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>>15229764
I shouldn't have believed you.

>>15229764

I use a very similar lineup too, only I put the Prince where Odette appears and I have the black unit who boosts GR drop rates that isn't Kikyo because I am bad at names.

Also I line that middle island with 2 bishops and Bashira and ignore the corners.

Easieat 3 stars I've gotten.

Full disclosure: Level 140 Prince, returning player, only regret is not getting Verlandi.

>>15228399

Classic Nutaku

>>15230742
Durr, I just tried it and after doing a pair of missions I launched a third and got a communication error which wouldn't go. Refreshed page for a nice 507 stamina.

>>15228399>>15230791
> nutaku in charge of programming

>>15230819
It keeps happening. After blasting all on the 80 gold daily I launched harvesting and got another 507. Going to be rich you guys!

Nutaku FKG is completely broken. Communication errors randomly, refresh to have twice your max stamina refilled. Harvest? Twice your stamina refilled. Completely bonkers, already had 3k stamina, I can't even keep up, I level up from the gold daily.

>>15230858
>Oh, finally run out of stamina a little bit before leveling up. What a shame... wait... what if I just refresh the game?... HEH.

You guys might want to get some gold or manyus if interested. Good chance to steamroll stones for Rainbow farming too I guess.

Know whats most funny? They will call you all cheaters and ban your accounts for their mistake.

>>15230858
Gathering can also reduce stamina, lost about 50 that way. Luckily I got an extra stamina (like an extra 60) error earlier today

>>15230884
Refreshing the page doesn't fill your stamina? I always get a double-max stamina refill that way.
Wish there was something worthwhile to farm. I'm on my way to one million gold by now. Guess I'll start going for secret gardens.

>>15230899
I haven't tried the refreshing thing

It had an error by itself and I got an extra 60 above my max, sometime later I did a gathering and ended up losing 50, but yeah it's pretty silly

If only this had happened during the upcoming's farming event...

>>15230883
They can't ban "cheaters" without also banning half of their users, so I don't think they'll do it unless you go out of your way to get to level 200 or collect 100mil gold something.

Feel free to continue playing as you like.

>>15230921
Yeah, I CAN see a server rollback tho. Maybe another gold or 5 stones our way afterwards.

>>15230899
Refreshing doesn't seem to be working for me

Gathering is straightup stealing my stamina though

>>15230933
That's weird, maybe it requires to get a communication error first for it to work?

>>15230928
>server rollback
They can't do this either, not without outright getting lynched by people who got a rainbow during the deleted time.

They've gotten themselves into quite a pickle. I'll take this as some good, old-fashioned poetic justice for them censoring Lavender.

Nutaku threatened to ban users abusing the stamina bug, and yes, they really lack tact on delivering that message, it sounded quite hostile.

>>15230935
Yeah I think that's the case since I got the extra stamina after an error. Gathering taking away stamina is bullshit though

>>15230945
Unless they just want people to not play at all (in which case they should just take down the server until they fix their own mess), there's no avoiding the stamina bug.

You don't have to trigger it manually, it happens when you get connection errors. This being Nutaku, connection errors are not infrequent.

>>15230946
Yeah, I leveled up -again- and I got an error going to a boss, refreshed and got my stamina but had all my raid points drained.

I can refresh whenever and get stamina without needing an error now tho.

>>15230945
Maybe they should fix it instead.

>>15230883
>hey guys we won't come in on the weekend or put in extra time to fix this massive bug
>oh by the way you guys are cheaters get banned

The stamina fuckery started after the last maintenance to put the facebook gacha spotlight in. I hear that maintenance happened after the dev's office hours? What were they thinking, doing a no-announcement maintenance just before the weekend?

>>15231089
Dunno man, but I welcome this kinda endearing incompetence. Free Gacha bugs when?

>>15230945
Where was this actually said? All I saw on Discord was a bunch of users acting like this was an exploit and not a server-wide issue.

If anyone else happens to have the gathering only takes away stamina bug, if you do it at 0 stamina it ends up refilling the whole thing, I assume it'll work as long as the stamina you have is less than the amount being taken away.

It seems to have fixed itself for me though, gatherings are back to adding stamina again. I don't know if it was because of a level up or if it'll fix after refilling stamina once

>>15231126

Discord news room, May 5:
> We have implemented a feature to prevent stamina loss due to connection errors. Any abuse of this feature will result in the account getting banned as it is considered a cheat.
> We are already seeing a large increase in "errors" so please behave.

May 9:
> A modification will be made later to the stamina consumption fix as this became exploited.
> A set number of connection errors are now accepted during a certain amount of time. Those of you who will refresh the page mid-game will have the stamina consumed.
With this fix we will also address the double stamina issue.
> Maintenance may be required so please stay tuned.

That "abuse = ban" message was in the past, but it left a deep impression.

Seems like the fun is over for me, refreshing no longer works. Will have to wait for harvesting I guess heh. It was a profitable ride, several levels, a million of gold and plenty of unit exp. No silvers from more than 30k seeds tho.

>>15231207
That's unrelated to the current issue (though it might be the cause of why this bug is happening now).

Honestly, you should be punished if you tried exploiting that band-aid solution, though I admit the message is pretty harshly worded.

>>15231242
>you should be punished if you tried exploiting that band-aid solution
But you can't. That's the sweet part.

And yeah, it isn't much of a solution to say that you'll ban players if they come across a major bug that happens even when they don't intentionally trigger it. They should get off their asses and fix this already.

>>15231252
You could exploit the "no lost stamina if connection error" fix by refreshing/purposely disconnecting if your run wasn't going your way (missed a mob, didn't get rare chests, etc.). That's what I meant.

But this bug, certainly. There doesn't seem to be any way to consistently exploit this, so there's no need to worry about people getting banned for it. Rather, the only thing people can do is to take actions to not randomly lose stamina instead. As in, use up all stamina before gathering/logging out, or on the flip side, don't gather/refresh while you have a lot of stamina.

>>15231273
>You could exploit the "no lost stamina if connection error" fix by refreshing/purposely disconnecting if your run wasn't going your way (missed a mob, didn't get rare chests, etc.).
Oh, I see.

This is incredibly petty, though, so I don't think anyone would do it on purpose. I have problems depleting my stamina as is, I wouldn't want to reset maps for even more tedium.

>>15231278
> This is incredibly petty, though, so I don't think anyone would do it on purpose

People are getting a hella kick out of seeing if they'll get 400 stamina or not.

>>15231324
I mean the previous "refund stamina if disconnected" bug, not the more recent "your stamina changes at random" bug.

It's okay to "abuse" the latter if you haven't found a way to trigger it at will, since the only way not to encounter it is not to play. If Nutaku wants people to stop playing in order to prevent "bug abuse", what it should do is taking down the server for emergency maintenance, not threatening bans.

Who is that girl ? I don't recognize her.
http://i.imgur.com/jWH0oPn.jpg

>>15231495
ME

>>15231495
Nobody who is currently in the game. They're probably spoiling future content by accident.

This shouldn't surprise you, since Nutaku's advertisement department has no clue what their own games are about. In fact, most of Nutaku's departments have no clue what their own games are about. One of their streamers is on record for saying that Aisha is useless.

>>15231324
I just got 507 instead of 36 stamina, not bad.

>>15230921
Speaking with Nameless, he said that there will be bans, right now they are seeing a lot of abuse and are logging the IDs of the ones who purposely are doing it. Also unsuspectingly he said that there are vert few people abusing it compared to the other who got the bug and didn't abuse it.
As for the ban itself it would range from disallowing you to login in the game from a week or a month, or a rollback of a few days.

>>15232241
Abuse what ? Are we supposed to wait patiently until monday without playing just because we get an error and 500 free stamina every time we do a mission ? How's that our fault ?

>>15232260
>Are we supposed to wait patiently until monday without playing just because we get an error and 500 free stamina every time we do a mission ?
In his words, yes. He says that everyone who changed browsers / cleared cache, got this fixed.

>>15232266
I cleared my cache literally every time I had one of those errors, it never fixed anything, I keep getting 500 stam each time.

I want 15 Aishas.

>>15232272
Well, tell that to him, post your ID and all that like everyone else is doing it in Discord.

>>15232241
Nameless isn't even on, are you fucking with us, anon?

>>15232299
He is away like one hour ago, but still logged.

>>15232351
Then screencap your conversation with him. I don't see him anywhere in the history since Nutaku doesn't have anyone working on weekends, for some idiotic reason, and I find it hard to believe that you had this conversation privately.

>>15232370
I can confirm that Acolyte has been around during this weekend.

I should ask him why Nutaku is babbling about bans and bug abuse instead of fixing the huge bleeding problem that they themselves have created. Nothing even remotely like this ever happened on DMM, they would probably give us a rainbow ticket as compensation if they somehow fucked up as hard as this.

If they really are around, then they really are hilariously incompetent.

It's not that hard to just roll back to a previous version or take the server down for maintenance to stop this bug.

If they are actually hanging around this weekend and letting this happen, they deserve all of the exploitation people take advantage of.

>>15232370
Nutaku staff are so bad with how they communicate with their customers, them throwing out words like bans, blaming customers, seems like a normal thing.
>>15232392
That would mean giving out free FG and missing out on whales that roll on the weekends. Why would they miss the money and give away free stuff?

>>15232439
>That would mean giving out free FG and missing out on whales that roll on the weekends. Why would they miss the money and give away free stuff?

Aren't they already basically giving everyone free gems to their stamina refills by leaving it up?

>>15232383
The double max stamina bug happened to me 4 or 5 times since yesterday, and I lose a lot of stamina too because of gatherings. If I get banned I'm going to be pissed.

There's two ways we can go about this.

Either someone take a screencap of Nameless saying there will be bans and we all stop playing until it's fixed, or we wait until Monday rolls around, Nameless says there WON'T be bans, and we can laugh at the DMM trolls as usual for shitting up the thread.

>>15232456
Not only gatherings, I've lost stamina just from logging back in.

My stamina also refilled over about 7 hours while I slept after I wiped it out completely on a 25 cost run. I have 191 stamina, so that shouldn't be possible.

Even setting aside weird gathering bumps and drops or suddenly getting double max stamina out of nowhere, literally just logging into the game is fucking with your stamina bar. The whole thing is a mess.

>>15232439
I'm guessing you weren't around when Nutaku fucked up Angelic Saga's gacha, TWICE. The first time was so widespread that they just let anyone who "abused" the glitch keep their rolls.

The stamina recovery from disconnected runs was pretty much the only time they've talked about bans. Even back when people were using CE on Aigis, they didn't mention bans. They just outright reset the accounts that used it.

This whole fear mongering of Nutaku being ban-happy assholes is pretty pathetic. They're already fucking up on their own. Acting like they'll punish the userbase for their mistakes is pretty low, even for you guys.

>>15232478
This. Even if you assume that Nutaku has the technical competence to distinguish between "bug abusers" and people who just happened to come across the bug, they probably won't be assed to perform widespread bans in a recently established game.

>>15232463
>DMM trolls
Don't you get bored of this? Fuck off with this Nutaku vs. DMM nonsense already, both sides are discussing things civilly until one of you faggots bring this up.

>>15232478
>Nut shill being on damage control
There is no other reason to defend Nut and pointing fingers at the users, other than money. Loyal lap dogs are a concept I refuse to accept. No one can worship a company this blind.

>>15232478
To be fair, Acolyte is the one who started this, first when he threatened to ban people using vpns during the beta, and second when implementing that feature that allows you to get your stamina back. Maybe he should think a little bit more before using the word "ban".

>>15232502
I do think some people here are actually petty enough to act like Nutaku is incompetent enough to ban people indiscriminately for a glitch they can't control. Besides, you have people calling me and others "shills" for applying logic to Nutaku's decisions, however braindead they may seem at the time.

>>15232517
Then provide proof of this supposed conversation with Nameless taking place. You can surely do that, can't you?

>>15232518
Fair point. The VPN thing was probably just to discourage users though, and there may have been a legitimate concern about "breaking the tutorial", however that works.

>try the pig map
>fail to kill the pig
>get a gold fairy
>try again
>no drops
>kill the pig
>pig drops a gold fairy
who would do this

>>15232502
They may ban a few people with more extreme cases anyway. They may have set up some tracking system to monitor the stamina use or what not when they set up the previous not losing stamina on error thing.

This whole thing reminds me of a event that happened on star trek online open beta years back. There was an exp exploit that let you gain more than intended. they had a dev say that most people exploited it like 5-20 times and that they only banned the far out cases like a guy who did it 1000 times or some other crazy numbers.

Well, that's a new one for Nutaku FKG bugs.

I leveled up, ran my stamina down, and tried to do a gathering. The screen would get the translucent black overlay, but immediately went back and never ran the gathering. I clicked several times and nothing happened. So I refreshed and all of my gatherings were gone with only a half hour or so on the timer and I had double max stamina. But I still had my level increase. Seems like I still have the money from my quest, too.

>>15232756
Exact same thing happened to me too.

So the past hour of Discord hasn't really shed light on this issue, except that Nameless/Nutaku devs are indeed nowhere in sight. I'm guessing the anon from earlier was just shitposting.

>>15232756
Happened to me a couple times too.
I don't understand why they haven't fixed this bug yet. It's going to cost them if they don't repair the game before monday...

>>15232783
Of course, I'm pretty sure they would have taken down the server if they were actually at work. Monday is going to be rough for these guys.

Man with some guy named johndoe and eab arguing in discord its like I never left this thread.

>>15232826
Which one?

>>15232826
Better there than in this thread.

Leave us be, EN FKG this game can't have enough shitstorms until they decensor Lavender.

>>15232838
The FKG one, looked like the same arguments being passed around here. Not much of a stretch to see johndoe and anonymous are related anyway.

>>15232826
You act like I'm the only one arguing with john.

>>15232852
Priorities, bro. Other shit needs fixing before something as minor as the removal of virgin blood loss.

>join discord chat
>instantly get greeted with "women logic" and casual misogyny
I should have known better than to expect the internet to progress.

>>15232877
They're talking about FSN, what did you expect?

I don't know WHY they're talking about FSN, but you should know better about something as mainstream as that series.

>>15232877
You should have expected this. Free-to-play games are always crawling with the worst kinds of neckbeards.

>>15232877
You don't play many F2P games with chat do you?

>>15232877
The faggot Nutaku's staff warned me the first time I went to there because my name is Allahu akbar lol
Never comeback again.

>>15232920
Oh, I actually remember that. Wasn't that the same day with the Dark Hero and the Ipomea debacle?

>>15232941
I don't know. I only remember that.

>>15232941
>>15232920
Yes, you picked the wrong day, that was the same day about the hitler-guy and some more stuff.

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Why? I just wanted the gothloli sniper.
What do? Do I even bother with any other soldier now?

Got that double stamina bug two times already, i don't want to get banned because of their incompetence, damn it.

>>15233276
2 is probably fine, 100 is probably not

>>15233289
3 times, double stamina from a random gathering out of nowhere,

>>15233276
They won't ban anyone if they know what's good for them. Fledgling games don't have the leverage to threaten their users with bans, especially for something as uncontrollable as this.

But this ban scare is good because it may end up teaching them manners.

>>15233143
Get some time fairies and mincost her. Single Altia is good enough.

>>15233373
You got a point there.

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Whats this do? We got two of them
who can equip these?

>>15233512
Exp fairies for equips.

What does Christopher drop from in today's gold rush map? I still can't get that fucker to show up. I've gotten everything else, including the plat unit, to drop.

>>15233143
Have a threesome.

Nutaku´s FKG
- Gather = Minus stamina
- Wait for stamina = Minus stamina
- Go on mission = Minus stamina
- Want to try get back stamina from refresh = Afraid of ban

What the fuck is Nutaku trying to tell me? How do I play this game now?

>>15233778
You won't get banned probably.

Just do whatever you can to avoid bullshit stamina loss. If you get double stamina instead, more power to you.

>>15233373
>They won't ban anyone if they know what's good for them.
You seem to forget or maybe you are too new in nutaku, when Aigis got released you could abuse a bug, where you could get units, money etc, and they banned all these people, it happened all in the first month of the launch.
But latter you could hack all those and they didn't ban anyone because of that, only dmm banned people because of that.

>>15233795
That wasn't a bug, that was CE, wasn't it?

Even then, nobody got banned. They got their accounts reset, then warned that there would be bans if they did it again.

Then the DMM hack happened, followed by six weeks of no events on Nutaku...

>>15233805
The bug was on their part, and they banned the users, the hacking using CE was on users part and they didn't get banned.

>>15233811
I've never heard about this. Doesn't sound like something that was discussed here before.

>>15233805
>Even then, nobody got banned
They where indeed banned, not the usual "you got banned" but the "there was an error reading your data", you can still use the account for other games, in fact they where left intact, but your Aigis accound got scraped and could never be used again, I think this is the same that DMM did.
About the CE thing, nope, those where different methods, the CE method lasted around 5 months and was only patched after the long dev tea vacation and like the other anon said, those users werent banned at all but the "bug" method was something like, given the situation using only one SC to overflow the current ammount, refresh and you could end with unlimited charisma or stamina until the next maint.

>>15233823
Dunno if that was discussed here but it was found via some forums.

>>15233823
People talked about it here but it was a long time ago. We had some guy giving tips on how to use CE to do it.

>>15233860
Not that, the bug thing. The CE method, everyone and their mom knew it a month after it surged.

>>15233738
I think he's from one of the last three armored goblins.

>>15233143
Jerome is still worth using for his +2 UP.

>>15233885
At some time, one anon posted a comparison table from 2ch between Altia and Jerome, and Jerome excelled as a ramp on maps that lasted longer, he catch her at dunno what minute and I think it was something around 3-5 minutes when he surpassed her.

>>15233902
In short. Jerome > Altia on subjugation missions and Altia > Jerome everywhere else.

>>15233922
Not really limited to subjugations, but that is the idea somehow.

>>15233902
>3-5 minutes
Try literally less than 30 seconds. This was the chart I assume you mean, it's a little wonky though since I assume the yellow/green included natural UP generation too I think, since even Jerome's has a slight slope to it instead of only sudden spikes. But then the blue/red doesn't, but also changes it to net generation at the same time.
Yellow = Jerome's total UP generation (with natural regen incldued).
Green = Altair's total UP generation (with natural regen included).
Blue = Jerome's Net (subtracts Jerome's initial cost. Doesn't include natural generation.)
Red = Altair's Net (subtracts Jerome's initial cost. Doesn't include natural generation.)

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>>15234050
Forgot to attach the picture.

>>15234054
So, Jerome is a better point generator overall?

>>15233922
Altia can also kill shit though, and you never have to worry about her dying.

>>15234189
I dont care for them as a fighter I want those points for better things.

>>15234187
Yes. Altia has the benefit that her skill generates over time though, so if you're only slightly short on UP you can just wait a second or two on her skill to bring it in instead of waiting for Jerome's entire cooldown (this is most noticeable on Subjugations where there's no natural UP generation). Also, Altia has the better stats and stat boosting skills.

>>15234197
She can do over 1600 dps without even the prince buff. That's a lot more than Sybilla, for example.

>>15234054
Even after seeing this chart, I still want Atila more.

>>15234229
On normal and 0 def monsters, Sybilla does more the higher armed the monster is, even if they have magic def., Its the same Dahlia vs Clissa argument.

>>15234344
Except it's not because Sybilla is a more expensive unit that doesn't generate cost. Sybilla is generally much better for killing things, but that's all she's good at.

>>15234373
What does it have to do with
>She can do over 1600 dps without even the prince buff. That's a lot more than Sybilla,
he/you said damage, not cost effectiveness or anything.
If you still don't get it: He/you compared Altia's damage to Sybilla, not the effectiveness in cost that is completly different and fills the "I can replace Altia with someone better".
Next time don't compare two units for two completly reasons separatedly.

>>15234402
Units don't exist in a void of numbers.

>>15234411
But they do, everything is 0s and 1s.

>>15234428
no mai waifus are real you you meanie running off crying

>>15234530
If it makes you feel better, you are 1s and 0s right now too, so there may be chance to meet your waifu!.

>>15233884
You are correct. The middle one, I think. I just got it when Valerie nuked two at once. Thanks. Felt less frustrating when I had an idea of where it was supposed to be.

>>15233143
>2 Altias
I WILL END YOU.

>>15231559
>Aisha is useless
>a Black rarity tactician that hits like a a crossbow unit, has motherfuckin' PHYSICAL fireballs that hits EVERY ENEMY IN RANGE, WHICH GOES TO NEARLY THE WHOLE MAP ON AW as a skill and a SKILL COOLDOWN PASSIVE, at 15 cost when AW'd
>USELESS

There's retardation, and then there's HOLY SHIT YOU HAVE HER TRANSLATED ABILITIES IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU STILL SAY THAT?

>>15235063
>YOU HAVE HER TRANSLATED ABILITIES
"""translated""" abilities.
Its incomprehensible shit like "makes 5 units attack at once" or worse.

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>>15232605
I 3 star the map everytime and I have yet to get the third drop (gold fairy, healer, ???.) I've even received a platinum twice from it in this time.

By the way, this is how I do the map. I'd think that it'd work even if you replace the black units with something else.

>>15235657
Its 2sta map, anyone can do it if he has even one gram of grey matter in his head, you don't need help with setup.

>>15235705
i spend half the map waiting for the last 3 goblins to spawn

>>15235705
Fair enough. I mostly wanted to make the image just because I've never done it before.

>>15235657
>Aisha
>Alice
>Amanda on reserve
An ox-cleaver to kill a chicken.

Also, are GRs typically this hard? I have Junon for the silver boost and dropped 4 SCs on the current one, but I only have the first and fourth maps completed. But I also got a copy of every plat so that's good, especially Odette since I had no mages beyond silvers.

>>15235824
Hard as in getting stuff drop? It varies for people, some are lucky, some are not.
This time I'm doing terrible myself, only 1 map drop-complete. Not that I really need any of dupes and I got the only gold I was missing.

>>15235824
I have every gold so far without spending SCs, seems like the same drop rates as always.

>>15235839
I've yet to get a single gold, but I have several plats. fml.

So what is the limitations on placing units on the newest DMM Aigis gold rush map?
The only unit I had that I could play was my platinum valkyrie.

>>15236759
White Empire units.

>>15236777
Thanks. I'm probably screwed then. The only other one of those I think I have are the bronze ones. But I'll have to check.

>>15236783
Don't have Liselotte or Leona?

>>15236789
Oh, totally forgot about them. I hope that's enough.

>>15236816
I think the dragon will probably be too strong, but you should be able to deal with everything else. I'm not sure if there's any unit other than Isabel who can kill the dragon (Leona can attack it, but deals close to no damage).

So I hope the dragon has no drops, otherwise that's a really mean move by the dev tea.

List of units that you can deploy: Tiruk (bronze soldier), Dwight (silver heavy), Liselotte (platinum soldier), Isabelle (platinum pegasus rider), Leona (platinum back line strategist)

The dragon can be dealt with the White Emperor's one-time-use ability easily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs44ClSuNCM

You can clear the map with a single Dwight.

Close calls in this map aside, the drop rate is already bad for me. Out of three runs, I've gotten two gold armors twice and nothing once.

>>15236947
>Tiruk (bronze soldier)

Dirk. ディルク

>>15236982
And complaining worked. Got everything within 5 runs.

That should give me two more shots at Odette today since I still don't have her.

>>15236947
Oh, you're right, I didn't realize that the use ability gives him a ranged attack. I thought it was just an atk/def steroid and kept it for the manticore.

>>15236947
>>15236960
Worked like a charm. Now I'm back to no drop hell, same with the previous map.

>2/3 drops on 4/5 maps
>only got the kitty archer so far
at least I got Isabelle and Odette to drop; Maaya was my best mage before.

Still can't complete the drop on the african level....

>>15237214
at least its dropping gold armors regularly
I'm trying to get the drops from Odette's map and it keeps dropping nothing

>>15237457
I'm waiting on the gold armor on that map, I could brag about the plat drop though.

Had anyone cleared the one map with just the plat valk?

7 runs, 5/5 Gold Rush Maps done.

Still don't have an AW.

>>15234771
are you my waifu? @.@

Is it worth skill awakening Alice? Is losing the defense buff for an hp+damage buff worth it?

Whats a good nutaku game that's actually fun and not pay2win with paywalls out its ass.

>>15238293
>nutaku game
>good
>not pay2win with paywalls
Pick one.

>>15238293
Aigis is more p2havefun than p2win, FKG is fun ad don't required to pay, i wish to say Kancolle but is pretty much dead