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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
>>15091160
Thoughts on OP pic's VN?
>>15091154
Can't wait for another pissdrinkge. Maybe he will manage to make MC even more pathetic and despisable than Dora.
Please give me your impressions of Koi de wa Naku because I am too lazy and insecure to read something without prior receiving approval from anonymous strangers.
I think Akeiro has a clear tonal shift from the first game, probably due to the author gaining more confidence in both the scenario and those who liked the games. This is a shift away from the sex-crazed, overall plot-light tone of the first and into a more serious and focused mystery/horror game.
The most obvious depature is that, despite all the characters being ABSOLUTE semen demons, there's no early sex scene, and indeed there's no rampant sex in the common route like there was in Nanairo. It seems like the author was confident that fans of the first playing the second wouldn't need that sort of "trick" to keep them hooked. For most of the common route, you could generally expect an H scene every hour so of reading. In Akeiro, there's none of that - sex is saved for the character routes.
The pace of Nanairo's common route was defined by fucking onis, thereby producing more onis to move the story forward through character exposition and exploring new powers. This however lead to the majority of the game being "non-serious" and plot light for most of it -Aoi used her powers to find a kid shining lazers in drivers eyes, Iris telecommunicated with a masochist fat old man joke character, etc. Though this isn't to say Nanairo's plot is minor - the overarching mystery begins fairly early on, and most activities tend to relate to it in some way or another, so story and new information regarding it is coming to light all the time. It's interesting, and a good plot game.
The way Akeiro approaches it's pacing, however, is far superior in my opinion. Rather than fucking onis, the common route is paced via the explorations of the school's 七不思議. Rather than H-scenes, one is treated with a horror CG at regular intervals. Honestly, the ero in these games is good, but having the route paced by these horrors CGs is fantastic for the story. It's really easy to get in the horror mood, while playing this I felt just like I did when playing Corpse Party - uneasy and vulnerable. Tense. Were I constantly fucking girls, the morose story and the ambiance it creates would shatter. The decision to focus on plot-relevant "ghost stories", school legends, etc rather than sex makes Akeiro feel much more like a solid story rather than a nukige with a competent, but somewhat superfluous plot.
I honestly think Akeiro is plain better VN than Nanairo, at least from the perspective of how the common route is approached. I am pleased with the growth this series underwent. If someone asks about horror VNs, I'll actually recommend this one without hesitation- it's a damn good horror game by it's own rights.
後書き - The common route still has a good deal of comedy SOL interweaving the investigations, it's not grimdark constantly, not at all. It's a funny game with light-hearted protagonists. I don't want anyone to get the wrong impression - it's a horror game, but it's still moe, and the moe somewhat outweighs the spooks in screentime.
>>15091514
It was shit.
>>15091514
No. No discussion of VN's allowed in this thread.
>>15091514
https://tanoshimi.xyz/2016/02/14/恋ではなく-thoughts/
>>15091618
>We tend to think we are the ones who shape love, but it’s actually quite the opposite. We become slaves of love without even realizing it.
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>We believe that we invent symbols. The truth is that they invent us; we are their creatures, shaped by their hard, defining edges.
>>15091543
Maybe I'm numb to this stuff but I didn't find it all that spooky when I read the trial and was disappointed by the lack of jump scares.
>>15091638
Yeah, posts on Tanoshimi are like this. Nonetheless you can get some info about the game in question.
>>15091618
>>15091658
Any other good sites I should know about for VN impressions/reviews?
>>15091665
http://advgamer.blog.fc2.com/
>>15091665
EGS can have detailed reviews, or just Google.
>>15091618
>>15091658
>>15091665
Please stop advertising your shitty site and discuss visual novels.
>>15091666
>advgamer
What a hero, he gave D (凡作) to Sakura no Uta.
>>15091665
just search the name of the VN in warosu
>>15091658
I'm not sure if you noticed, but the second quote was from Gene Wolfe not the blog, is that what you were commenting on?
>>15091683
No, I was commention on what kind of writing posts on Tanoshimi tend to have.
Of course I don't remember every line from every blogpost and I'm not familiar with Gene Wolfe, so the second quote seemed like it could be Tanoshimi.
>>15091693
I was trying to show that his point was strong enough to reflect the wisdom of gene wolfe, looks like we have different interpretations...
>>15090567
I don't like traditional Japanese and I don't like Amairo
What now?
>>15091693
They write like whoever posts on them. Anyone here could post there too if they showed moogy the eroge review they have written. Ineffably, some of its writers are actual writers.
>>15091710
I haven't read Amairo, not a fan of yuzusoft
>>15091618
Ok ok we know you majored in creative writing, we get it already.
>>15091514
It’s not kusoge，but so where near.
>>15091653
Jump scares are the worst. Not sure why you would want them. The intense feeling of approaching the dead and seeing their malformed gorey visage is much more powerful and memorable moment than having a BOOOOO face pop up and scream in your face.
>>15091779
At least MLA did it well and had enough lasting effect to make the next arc miserable (in a good way) to read. I agree outside of that particular instance though.
>>15091792
CHOMP wasn't a jumpscare, they slowly panned up to it
>>15091804
Oh so like a literal just random sudden CG with scream or whatever with no buildup or anything? Chomp too slow to be considered one? Then yeah I agree.
>>15091817
Well I mean jumpscares are characterized by being sudden and fucking loud, so yeah I don't think a slow pan with no scream would be considered one. Maybe I misunderstood him though.
>>15091618
>>15091638
>>15091672
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>>15091716
Really, fuck off. All of you.
>>15091892
What do you have against Gene Wolfe? He's pretty good.
>>15091720
I meant akeiro, but don't you like Dracuriot?
>>15091906
Haven't played that yuzu in particular, but I stay away from the brand in general.
>>15091779
If the art was up to par sure maybe that would be enough.
>>15091942
I think the art in Akeiro is more than up to the task. Especially the creep visual effects
>>15091817
I think build up of suspense is very important for a jump scare to be effective, like you know something is coming yet it still manages to catch you off guard.
>>15091779
Felt like wasted chances to put in good jump scares to me. For instance, in one scene in Akeiro where you come across the ghost chick after leaving the library with your buddies, they show her from afar, and her face was obscured, she disappears, camera gets rid of text box and whatnot, slowly pans behind you, nothing there, pans some more, she's there, in her moe girl form with no dramatic music, you and your buddies run from her. Wow, so scary. And when you do see her "scary visage" it's fucking nothing.
There was an anon who was asking if vanadis gone bankrupt or not a while ago, Seems like they didn't; http://www.vanadis-soft.com/slime_bu/
>>15091827
>>15091804
I would consider CHOMP a jump scare. The panning was for a build up of suspense. They slowly panned up to her neck and stopped there to leave you to guess what happened to Marimo before quickly cutting right to an image of her gruesome fate accompanied with an effective use of sound effects. Really well done I must say.
Muv-Luv looks really interesting, is there an order or is Alternative just a better Muv-Luv? It apparently has a lot of spin-off too.
Also the fact that it takes place in a universe with Mechas kinda scares me, is it really hard to read?
>>15092363
Friend you're supposed to read it in order.
Extra -> Unlimited > Alternative.
Extra and Unlimited are together in the original Muv-Luv, Alternative is a separate release.
>>15092363
>It apparently has a lot of spin-off too.
The real question is, Are any of them good?
>>15092363
You're supposed to read them in order, but Extra is shit and Unlimited isn't a whole lot better. Even Alternative isn't all that great unless you're easily impressed by special effects. I'd honestly just skip it unless you really have nothing good left to read. And given that you're talking about reading difficulty, that's probably not the case.
>>15092363
Man, Muv Luv was so bad...
>>15091928
Any reason why you stay away I only played Dracula riot so I can't really say any thing about the products by them are they bad?
>>15092363
You have to read Extra and unlimited for Alternative to have any real effect on you as they get you attached to the characters themselves (Or are meant to at least). Alternative is a really boring read if you aren't attached or at least like the majority of the cast
>>15092404
>Are any of them good?
Only The Day After.
>>15092420
Depends on what you're looking for. I personally enjoy their stuff but if you're looking for heavy drama or plot the've got nothing to offer to you.
>>15091543
I agree with you. Nanairo has its own merits and I enjoyed it a lot but Akeiro went in a different direction that builds upon what Nanairo did right and expands on it.
With that said, melting faces need to go. The art is by no means bad but some designs could use work.
>>15092432
Honestly Extra was bad enough that Unlimited did better at getting me attached to the characters. Lack of Sumika in it means I never really gave a fuck about her which unfortunately reduced the impact of some parts of the story.
>>15092532
Extra did a great job of making me loathe Sumika.
What /jp/ opinion about the incoming Eushully game?
Do you looking forward for it?
>>15092587
Isn't that the one with 6 protagonists? I'll be impressed if it doesn't turn out to be complete shit character wise
>>15092587
It's going to be shit when it comes to heroines as per usual so I can't say I give a fuck.
>>15092587
When was the last time Eushully made a good game?
>>15092627
They never did.
>>15092640
Oh snap.
>>15092587
6 protagonists is definitely a turn off for me and I really dont think they'll be able to handle / do something great with it.
Most likely it will just a mess and a bunch of everything, you'll rape with one protagonist while you'll get raped with other one, one'll have kind of pure love etc etc.
>>15091755
けっく
Why is Eushully so fucking bad? Boring games, shitty porn and absolutely God Awful characters and plot.
>>15091543
>really easy to get in the horror mood
>felt uneasy and vulnerable
>a damn good horror game by it's own rights
Really? I think the exact opposite. For me, the story and the ghosts weren't scary, just silly. There was no sense of urgency. There were some creepy CGs but that's it. I don't think this is a horror game.
>>15092677
>Really?
Really.
Now this is something. I can imagine the lines for the trial stations.
>>15092587
I'm going to wait for reviews for this one, Eushully has been rather disappointing lately. Kind of reminding me of when Alicesoft went into a slump
Now this made me happy since I really loved Serizawa, but after finished every route I noticed they never explained how she survived unless I'm missing something. My theory to how she survived is the one instance where she asked Kanryuu for some of her knowledge (and as we know Kanryuu has a 依り代 that prevents death only once, and it's never mentioned if she only has one or what conditions it activates on so it's a bit up in air), but it never revealed what she asked of Kanryuu unless I'm forgetting something.
>>15092677
I'm not scared in the sense that I don't have high panic levels or feel the urge to scream, I'm just in the mood of the story and feel uneasy. Like I said, its like playing corpse party. It feels like Ayako (I forget her name exactly) could pop out at any moment and attack, especially when in the other world. A real malignant force to be reckon'd with. The best comparison I can give is: some people read moege and feel comfy, others read them and get bored. It stands to reason that some people such as myself would read Akeiro and feel uneasy, while others would read it and find it silly. Such is all horror really. Though perhaps horror actually is a too strong word. Too bad "spooky" just conjures up images of skeletons.
But like I said, the moe outweighs the horror for sure. It's given more screen time and probably more marketing. It's just that the horror is no slouch and is given a proper degree of focus in the common route, as opposed to Nanairo's sex-focused narrative.
>>15092404
Chicken Divers is the only one I'd consider good. The other short stories are okay and are short enough that they don't really drag on very long.
TDA is pretty mediocre, and on an indefinite hiatus. The idea started out fine, but it got worse and worse with each chapter with only the chapter they actually introduced the main cast being superior to the one before it.
Some of the other stuff is okay like the CG parody if you like age's style of referential humor but that's about it.
TE was so shit it turned me from being a huge fan to wanting nothing to do with age until they stop rehashing the same thing with new coat of paint over and over.
Warinaki is a pretty decent music themed countryside chara/moege but it's relation to the rest is only really brought up in one ending, the true ending, and materials that came after the fact.
Guhahaha, look at this. One of the most popular eroge reviewers on Reddit, has countless reviews on his blog and this is what he says.
>I wanted to read kanishino next, but it seems that I can’t reliably hook it. Due to this, I’m left without a work to play.
>>15093575
It's your own fault for venturing into Ribbit, idiot.
>>15093575
Moogy is the only one we can trust
>>15093575
Can EOPs and JOPs just get along and discuss about VNs? What's so funny about a person who can't read Japanese anyways?
>>15093884
>What's so funny about a person who can't read Japanese anyways?
That he reviews Japanese novels I imagine
>>15092677
>For me, the story and the ghosts weren't scary, just silly. There was no sense of urgency. There were some creepy CGs but that's it. I don't think this is a horror game.
I feel the same way. Nanairo'scut up bodies, while not that horrifying or surprising either at least gave me some sort of tension dueto serial killer feeling like more of a real threat and himwhile none of Akeiro's exaggerated magical bloody scenes so far have made me even flinch. It feels more like fantasy with gore rather than horror, though Nanairo is even less of a horror game.having cut up one of the major characters
If I had to pick one game to compare Akeiro to it would be the first Leyline due to both having mostly separate but tangentially connected magical mysteries which the protagonist's group investigates, plus the existence of separate magical worlds though the huge difference in mood obviously makes both games quite different reads. Leyline only got really good at the second game so I'm also giving Akeiro a chance to see if the later routes are better.
>>15093372
and what about schwarzesmarken
Finished 見上げてごらん.
The common and ひかり routes are hands down the best moege I've read so far. The pacing, the character interactions and the atmosphere are all really nice.
沙夜 route was kind of disappointing and the other 2 just feel like they were quickly written for the sake of having 2 more routes though.
Playing Tokyo Necro now.
Finished Iriya and Echika routes so far and I'm very pleased with them.
Really like how the setting is used and the whole exbrain thing is pretty interesting.
I didn't pick it up before because the 3D battles seemed awful but I'm glad I gave it another shot.
Anyway, it's not Muramasa but I think that anyone who enjoyed any Nitro+ game should give it a fair chance.
>>15094036
Never played a Nitro+ game before maybe this VN is a good start.
holy kek, this "NG+" is killing me. how in the world do you even come up with this shit?
eroge in general are notorious for their "epick twists", but the ones in elf's games really take the cake.
>>15094036
>the other 2 just feel like they were quickly written for the sake of having 2 more routes though.
Welcome to pulltop games.
>>15094143
This was my first one so I couldn't know.
Do you know which route is the good one in この大空に、翼をひろげて?
>>15094173
小鳥, hope you like cute crippled girls.
>>15092627
>>15092640
But, VERITA is not that bad.
>>15094128
What happened here? I don't think I'll ever read it based on the premise. Spoil me.
>>15094198
Shuusaku spends a good chunk of the game looking at the screen and talking to the player. All H-scenes also have an option to be in 1st or 3rd person.
And in the final route...The player ends up in the game world with Shuusaku watching him from behind the screen. It's very meta.
>>15094305
I wish elf was still alive ;_;
>>15094325
Well it's not. They brought it upon themselves.
>>15094198
This will sound very bizarre if you didn't see all the foreshadowing, but I'm too lazy to write about that. In any case,after the fourth wall is completely broken in the game's finale if you met certain conditions, you restart the game from the beginning, but now it's you, yes you, the player, who is the protagonist, with Shuusaku himself this time messing around with your actions "behind the screen" and only one person, the "main heroine", being roughly aware of what happened in the "first run" (e. g. the sexual enslavement of all other heroines). This is also why you were asked to put your name in during the first start-up of the game (IIRC MGS5 copied this).
>>15094179
Why would you manually crop a screenshot of a game that has a built-in screenshot function?
>>15094036
>The common and ひかり routes are hands down the best moege I've read so far. The pacing, the character interactions and the atmosphere are all really nice.
Agreed.
The only other game that came close for me is Daitoshokan.
>>15094347
Doten Meikai's games are completely in the spirit of Hiruta's later titles, which is not surprising given his probable identity. If they weren't successful in Japan, I don't see anything else elf could have done to stay in the business without completely giving in to the trends set by others. It's not like they could possibly keep up in the game system department in later years.
>>15094384
>Doten Meikai
It's almost all netorare.
As for Hiruta, most of his works revolve around the brutish/rape types, not full on Netorare as Meikai did. Also, it was a bad move when you consider how most of ELF's fans were of the renai crowd. Although I really have to ask who this "Morning Musuko" guy is.
>>15094437
One game can be said to have it as a main theme and you people somehow project it onto all others.
And Hiruta had cheating and general unfaithfulness without any brutes involved always in his games, think of De Ja 2 where you quite openly cheat on the main heroine, Words Worth in which you get cucked in the first half, and proceed to cuck someone else in the second, also Dragon Knight 4 of course and I don't think I need to say anything about Kawarazi-ke 2.
Furthermore, I cannot confirm it in any way, but I seriously doubt that there was great overlap between the fanbases of, say, Koihime or Refrain Blue and the Itou-ke series. Hiruta must have been sick of renai after at least 1996, which explains his following games, and I find it hard to blame him for it.
>>15094347
context? why would someone snap his disc
>>15094887
>doukyuusei 2
hmm I wonder why
>>15094897
Please don't confuse a game that has nothing wrong with it with Kakyuusei 2.
>>15094887
The main heroine in the (supposedly) RenAi game Kakyuusei 2 had some serious NTR issues in her route. The rest of the heroines were fine and the game was great of you pretended that she didn't exist.
>>15094905
Oh, huh. TMYK
>>15094909
used goods be kinda par for the course for elf games, no?
>>15094956
There are plenty of "used goods" as you put it, and nobody has cared about it one bit. But that is not the issue. The problem was that Tamaki was the kind of girl who screams the other guy's name during sex, if you catch my drift.
>>15094966
Why would she do that?
>>15094966
Isn't that just part and parcel of netori theme? You steal the other guys wife, and she constantly remarks about how much she's enjoying this even though she's a married woman and mother.
>>15094981
She was using the MC as a rebound. She was dumped immediately after putting out, she was still hung up about the other guy when she started dating the MC.
Mind you, there have been other girls who had been unlucky in their relationships, yet this didn’t stop players.
>>15094991
MC steals nothing. The relationship is finished. There is no hiding. No lies. No pretenses. You have a very wide definition of netori if you believe this scenario to be one of them.
As for Kakyuusei goes, you DO have competition. How you react to it, and just as important, how the heroines react to it, is what matters.
Miyuki. <3
>>15095049
The protagonist of that game was a huge manslut.
>>15095029
Are they on the moon? Why is the cola sort of just meandering upward?
Anyway, part of it is the presentation too. With Mizuho you could "lose" to whatshisface but that's really only if you fucked up or didn't pursue her.
With Tamaki you see that scene in the park and everything else as part of the normal events, not as a consequence of any mistakes you make.
And as others have said many times before, making Tamaki so similar to Mizuho and pulling what they did was just asking for trouble. If she just wasn't a virgin instead of going as far as they did, it probably would've been more or less fine, some butthurt but not total colon crucifixion like what happened.
Which really is a shame as the rest of the game is great.
>>15095089
>Are they on the moon?
Well, it is Japan
Usually not a big fan of SOL/fantasy combinations, but the cast just feels right and until now the pacing has no extra fat.
I hope it doesn't fall flat in the routes. And fuck dead animals, that stuff always gets me.
>>15094347
They went bankrupt from that?
>>15095136
>I hope it doesn't fall flat in the routes.
It doesn't in the main/true route (imo) but the side routes are pretty fluffy and ero based.
>>15095136
>fuck dead animals
Ew.
>>15095149
They lost some serious buck because 1) The anime flopped HARD 2) Sabotage from ex-fans. This lead to an steady bleeding out that lasted for nearly a decade due to extremely harsh reviews of their games.
And contrary to what people believe, people into netorare are in the minority, so they didn't sell much during the last 3 years.
>>15095136
>And fuck dead animals, that stuff always gets me.
I can't remember any dead animal fucking in that game, which I'm grateful for because it sounds pretty disgusting.
>>15095220
Sabotage? What, the fans went to elf hq and flipped desks over?
>>15095222
We got it the first time, you're funny man.
From about 0:30 (for both videos) onwards don't these sound really similar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FStyG2WYAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNQvLECht08
CUTE
>>15095256
Kinda.
>>15095256
Second one sounds more complete. First one sounds a bit off and is quite lacking. It does sound similar.
Speaking of netori, can someone recommend me some?
>>15095335
妻みぐい3
夫の前で犯されて
若妻万華鏡
>>15095335
牝堕ち巨乳妻は俺のモノ
Not attacking anyone in general but people who like netori have to be the biggest betas.
>>15095454
Netori or netorare? There's a huge difference. And most of us are sitting at home jacking to cartoons, we're all beta here.
>>15095461
Netori. Netorare is the thinking man's fetish.
>>15095476
You make no sense.
Speaking of NTR eroge, what are some of your favorites? I'm not even into NTR but こんなアタシでも… struck a cord with me emotionally. If you're in the mood for reading something depressing pick this up. The soundtrack has some great ambient tracks as well, it further hits the point home that MC is losing it and his whole situation is fucked.
>>15095476
Then explain yourself.
>>15093887
And translated one (Koirizo).
>>15095404
This one looks awful. They all look fat.
>>15095511
People who like netori want to indulge in a fantasy where they steal other people's spouse because they always had their loved ones taken from them because they were too slow. It's something they could never do themselves in the real world which is why it's so appealing to them.
>>15095561
pretty sure most eroge pros didnt have loved ones in the first place though
t. knower
>>15095561
You're projecting a little too much there.
>>15095648
I'm one of these.
>>15095497
>>15095511
He's just memeing you.
>>15095534
Yeah I kinda regret picking this up. It had some good egs scores, wonder if that was just marketing bullshit.
>>15095693
>marketing
Don't you mean stema?
>>15095709
Considering that's pretty much literally what he said, that probably is what he means.
>>15095724
I dunno man, I don't think he knows English. He's wrong and needs to be corrected.
>>15095383
I looked through the CG of 妻みぐい3 and it looks like there are scenes with some other male characters? Is it forced?
>>15095750
You can turn on a pure mode if you don't want to have to deal with stopping the other men from having events with the heroines and even if you play the game on serious mode then it's pretty easy to cockblock men who are aiming for the heroine you're after.
Although regardless of your choices you the other men are still part of the other all story
>>15095794
>other all
Overall*
>>15095383
>夫の前で犯されて
>若妻万華鏡
how are those two anyway?
>>15095847
Pretty good. More 'realistic' approach, which involves psychological mind games. Especially in 夫の前で犯されて. The protag basically exploits traumas of the heroine and does some nasty shit. The only bad thing is that her VA is rather annoying. Give it a try if you like later Elf games like 媚肉の香り and 人間デブリ.
>>15095879
it always seemed to me for some reason like they were on the shorter end. how long are they each, roughly?
>>15095889
It's been a few years but I don't remember them being unusually short. Each game ~15 - 20 hours, maybe?
>>15095922
I might add that I didn't read it with a guide and the game is kind of difficult, so it might be much shorter if you use one.
>>15095879
>The protag basically exploits traumas of the heroine and does some nasty shit.
Does that mean rape or what
>>15095944
It's mostly coercing her with mind tricks. Likeguessing how she was raped by her grandfather (?) and using the same power games until she gets a mental breakdownSo it's more mind rape but the first couple of times sure as hell aren't in full consent.
>>15096145
No H scenes. Not worth reading.
>it's a we're being invaded by /vg/ episode
Make it stop
>>15096326
This post genuinely made me laugh out loud. Non-EOP crossboarders from /v/ are the best eroge thread posters.
>>15096498
What game is that?
>>15096498
The stuff she's saying doesn't fit her facial expression. She's probably faking it.
>>15096498
That's not cute.
ADV format - equivalent to LNs
NVL format - equivalent to literature
Why is every NVL game so much more based than adv style games?
>>15096597
>equivalent to literature
*tips boushi*
>>15096498
Is that really happening during a test like the background implies?
>>15096597
do they even make NVL anymore?
>>15096668
Some doujin games. Arcadia was a lot of the time.
Anyone else hold ctrl through H scenes in moege?
I wish this trend of increasing H scenes would stop.
>>15096858
Depends on how much I like the character and how much non-sex-related dialogue is in it. Most of the time I do. I wish it'd focus more on relationships and cute stuff rather than making out scenes and sex scenes.
>>15096858
Of course not. Sex scenes are an essential part of the development of the relationship between the characters. Skipping them is heresy.
>>15096511
Shizuku, made by Leaf.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVs2_CnyCJg
>>15096876
I'm sure you can skip all of the middle part and only read the beginning and the end and not lose anything.
>>15096967
This is usually what I do. Well, I don't hold ctrl, but I just skim to make sure I'm not missing anything besides moaning.
Adorable.
>>15096346
>Non-EOP crossboarders from /v/ are the best eroge thread posters.
You can say that again.
>>15096967
But it's not like a plot-based story where you can skip the filler SoL/sex scenes and just read it for the meaningful events - a moege has no real plot. The reason you read it is for the strength of the relationships and the feelings for the characters, and sex scenes are just as much of an important part of building these as every other scene in the VN. Just ctrling through these basically means you miss out on a vital process in this development, and your feelings for the girl and her story will be weakened as a result.
>>15096597
If you think any eroge reads like literature then you're a fucking moron who's never picked up a book
>>15096858
I do it all the time.
I prefer rape/corruption nukige if I want to fap. Moege h-scenes are too boring.
>>15096858
Depends if the scenes have plot points in them, otherwise I just skip them unless I'm in the mood to fap
>>15097346
If you think literature is something special only confined to books then you are fucking retarded
>>15096346
Oh yeah who care about actual content when you can have meme
They make this thread so good
I finished Rance 01, it was amazing. That ending was goddamn beautiful, I really wish more sex scenes got music like that instead of the typical relaxing songs we get every game.
>>15096876
>>15097047
You read the scenes if you're in the mood to fap. If not, skip them. It's as simple as that. There's no development or continuity with most of them.
>>15097505
>Route for big fat tat older sister voiced by 平田宏美
The time has come and so have I.
Tenin-chan no Seiiki when though feng?
>>15097991
I'd say they're too big. The previous heroines' sizes were perfect.
>>15097630
too bad 03 reuses that same "r'n'b" track from R8 and R9 for most of its h-scenes
Been busy reading Dies Irae, still in a first half. Ren is a fucking worm who's destined to be a punching bag. The author really made a mountain out of a molehill with those SS dudes. Somehow I've gained a lot more appreciation for the Fate series now, at least they had some balance. One of those situations when vivid writing and cool characters are deluded by dumb and devoid of any subtlety fighting scenes.
Anyone tried that Seabed that everyone seems to love these days?
>>15098360
That would require buying the damn thing.
>>15098405
I'm 3rd-worlder living in country with 200USD average monthly wages, and still can afford to buy such doujin games.
>>15098438
And I'm a first worlder living on 0USD monthly wages.
>>15098448
Then get a job.
>>15098081
But didn't you hear they've absorbed tens of thousands of souls!
tens of thousands I tell you!
>>15098452
http://lunesoft.blog.jp/archives/2517528.html
What the flying fuck is this /jp/? Has gap moe gone too far?
>>15098456
That's supposed to be a bad excuse?
Because it's a good one
>>15098478
Interesting premise but the art is terrible.
>>15098478
Those are some rather unusual nipples for a man.
>>15098478
Sounds pretty gay to me.
I eagerly await it.
>>15098448
A single big mac combo is more expensive than seabed. There's literally no financial excuse.
>>15098514
Not him but that argument isn't compelling to me because my food budget is extremely low and tightly controlled. I think a big mac combo is stupid expensive in the first place.
>>15098493
It's not supposed to be anything I'm just making fun of how often Masada repeats that
>>15098405
Nobody is going to upload a nobody 600 yens doujin game, that would be pretty evil
>>15098526
He only state it in conjunction with the story, he doesn't "repeat" it
>>15098405
>>15098527
If no one uploads it then it's not worth playing.
>>15098527
Is my bank gonna get on my ass for buying eroge from dlsite? Because I have no problems with supporting them (or Himawari, considering getting that too), but I don't want to jump through a ton of hoops and have to talk to the bank just to buy from dlsite.
>>15098558
I had to buy a game and I thought it was pretty good. Games without porn get ignored by the Anime Porn Fan Industrial Complex.
>>15098559
Never had any problem
Also Seabed and Himawari aren't eroge
>>15098533
He says it for every fight about every enemy even though it stops being intimidating after the first couple times
>>15098590
You are still in the common route, just drop it if you dislike it so much already, nobody is forcing you
>>15098558
Ah yes because the opinions of chinese pirates matters a lot.
>>15098561
Good reference
>>15098597
>just drop it if you dislike it so much already
He just made fun of his writing a little, what the fuck is up your ass dude.
>>15098597
I read the whole thing.
Seriously calm down I didn't even insult it that bad I just made light fun of it. Like goddam sorry for implying your precious meme VN isn't 100% perfect
>>15098606
Of course the opinions of chinese pirates matter a lot, they are the ones uploading all the games and if something is not worth pirating then it can hardly be worth playing. It certainly matters much more than the opinion of someone who paid for the game.
>>15098607
>>15098608
I'm not trying to insult him, I just can't understand why people force themselves to play something they don't enjoy, it's alright to drop popular games
But well I though >>15098081 and >>15098590 were the same persons so I was obviously wrong, apology
>>15098665
>it's alright to drop popular games
Can confirm, dropped muramasa because fight scenes were too long and boring, no regrets.
>>15098665
But how am I supposed to get e-cred with all the big names of the VN scene then??????
>>15098665
>I just can't understand why people force themselves to play something they don't enjoy,
You can take issue with some parts of a game, and make fun of other parts of a game, while still enjoying the game overall.
>>15097630
Getting animated in June.
Best scene in the series in my opinion.
Are you going on to Rance 2 next?
Use the Kai patch version
>>15098597
Nope, it's already Kei's part.
>>15098688
Pretty much this.
I just hope that Ren will gain more battle prowess in the second half, cuz now he's only good at groans while being ass whooped.
>>15098845
Ren doesn't do shit in Kasumi's route, he will have his time to shine later
>>15098619
That doesn't follow at all. Just because someone paid for the game doesn't mean they'll let the amount of money they spent in the game influence their judgement. And there's no guarantee that chinese pirates are looking for the same you things you are when playing eroge.
>>15098845
>Nope, it's already Kei's part.
If you're on an edge about the game and are pondering how much you're going to be enjoying the rest of it, I'd suggest holding on until things get properly going in Kei's route as that was when in my opinion the game went from decent to fantastic.
>>15098478
It has so much stuff I like compressed into one nukige, can't wait.
Talking about going from decent to fantastic
Baldr Force Exe.
Holy fuck, game was just OK and then Ryang's route happened.
>>15098704
>Use the Kai patch version
Do you happen to have a link? I can't find it on nyaa.
Seems like they finally decided a release date for Sen no Hatou, its September.
>>15099743
Wake me up when september ends
>>15099928
This will forever be known as the September that never ended.
>>15099716
It's included in the Alice 2010 disc. Look for the Kai folder.
>>15100899
Thanks
It's going to take me so long to play through all of these games
>>15100931
I recommend asking the Alicesoft general on /vg/ if you have more questions about the games in genera;
>>15101066
Same face.
>>15101178
Yeah, it's two illustrations of Akari on that pic, duh.
>>15099743
Is this game going to be more like Eustia or Daitoshokan?
>>15098514
>food analogy
How strict is Japan about pirating eroge? I'm here as a student right now and I'm afraid of getting in shit for downloading something.
>>15101503
Pretty sure uploaders are the ones that get in serious trouble, too many downloaders to go after all of them.
>>15101503
Every nyaa eroge release has over 50% peers from japan, I'm sure its okay unless you upload something yourself. That said, you probably shouldn't download anything from public networks like university.
>>15101516
Always funny how they get mad about foreigner pirates
>>15101489
looks more eustia
>>15101503
just vpn
>>15101535
You are gonna have a ball when you learn about this guy named TSF no F who went and demanded /d/ to stop all piracy on the internet.
>>15101574
Wait what? more info on that please
>>15101489
Oh I'm sure it's going to be more like Daitoshokan with a Eustia mood, Priholi twist, FAish vampires, Binary Pot rape, and so on, because of course it can't by any chance be anything else can it?
>>15101610
Don't be autistic about it, it's just a question about the general style of the game. I'm pretty hyped about it and I expect them to make it great.
>>15101574
Can you provide a screenshot and/or a link to the archive if /d/ is actually archived somewhere?
>>15101516
kind of amazed that people still use these torrent clients
>>15101660
Vuze and bittorrent are pretty shitty but utorrent 2.2.1 is ok. Never tried any others.
>>15101664
new utorrent, which is what all these in the screenshot are using, was bought by mpaa and contains malware
>>15101655
I presume it'll be a mix of Daitoshokan and Eustia. E.g. Eustia-like serious setting with more Daitoshokan-like character dynamics.
>>15101489
They said it's going to be lighter than Eustia, but it should still have a plot. So probably somewhere in between.
Are Grisaia no Meikyuu and Rakuen any good?
I really liked the first game but what I've heard of the plot makes them sound really shit and jump the shark.
>>15101773
Meikyuu is more of a fan disc with a sequel hook rather than a proper sequel. Most of the game is optional extra content (non-canon heroine after stories, short joke scenes etc.) while only the grand route that's about Yuuji's past matters.
Rakuen goes very, very silly and asspulls all sorts ofscifi-y shitout of nowhere while explaining none of it in an interesting manner (just a"if you have enough money, you can do anything"handwave at most) and the main plot isn't that awesome. The antagonists were also cliche shit and whenever I remember the finale I feel compelled to scream WHY, it's like the whole game is a parody.
I guess you'll still be able to enjoy them if you're able to shut down your brain and just enjoy the action, plus the heroines are still cute. They're not outright bad games by any means, but I wouldn't recommend keeping your expectations too high either.
>>15101829
Thanks.
I want to know more about Yuuji's past as well as the girl's reactions to finding out about it, so I think I'll check out Meikyuu when it gets a translation, but Rakuen sounds like not my kind of thing.
>>15101693
>Daitoshokan-like character dynamics.
What did he mean by this?
Anyone run Muv Luv Alternate on Mac or Linux?
Is it worth trying to find a way to run it.
Also, is the main character more than a blank slate? Part of the reason I'm interested is because I've heard good things about PTSD and I like broken MCs or watching them get broken.
>>15101968
He's not a blank state, if he was then Alternative wouldn't be memorable
>>15101983
Man, Muv Luv was so bad...
>>15102050
All of them or just the first one?
Never played them, but what made them so well regarded - as in high score on VNDB, often on top lists etc.
>>15102060
The first one isn't really well regarded. Alternative is because it's really good. Not that it had a lot of competition - how many 50+ hour long sci-fi VNs are there, with significant drama, worldbuilding AND action? The fact it's an engaging read is just icing on the cake of being a somewhat unique game in a crowd of moege that blend together.
