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KanColle Arcade release date has been set for April 26. Official site: http://kancolle-a.sega.jp/
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News:
-Maintenance on April 22 for Kawakaze kai 2, another Asashio class is planned later.
-Spring 2016 Event has been announced to start on May 2nd, it will be large scale and have a 3 week duration.
-Ooshio receives a blueprint Kai 2 at level 65, with 5 new quests added rewarding 2 medals and 2 furniture fairies.
-You can now choose whether to use any remaining Combat Ration and Offshore Resupply items before the boss battle.
-About 50 girls get temporary Coming of Spring seasonal voice lines, replacing White Day lines and Sukiya gyuudon sprites.
-For this month, Uzuki and Akashi are temporary drops in EO maps. Akashi drops in 1-5 only for those without her.
-Mutsuki and Kisaragi can now equip only Daihatsu craft at Kai 2.
-Akatsuki, Hatsuharu, Hatsushimo, Murakumo, Shigure and Ushio have their stats at Kai 2 buffed.
-Pola of the Zara class is ready for implementation sometime this year.
-The Spring 2016 Event's theme will be "Combined Arms Battle". Iowa, who first appeared in the PS Vita game will be an event reward.
-The Kamikaze class is still planned to be added.
-Player-owned installations, land-based aircraft and their famed pilots are planned to be added. Mitsubishi G4M will be one such aircraft.
-Seaplane bombers/fighters have received a visual update in preparation for the land-based planes which will be added later this year.
-A new aerial system will be implemented this year.
-Android lottery results are out, winners must wait until port is released to gain access.
First for Abucute
Now capable to deal with land units, glorious IJN will attempt the reconquest of far east and drive out the puppet governments by the western colonial empires and free the locals from oppression once and for all.
>>15083750
wew lad
>>15083750
More like they need land units to actually create a pit stop to get to Iowa. The US sending Iowa in a plane is highly dangerous and sending her alone with no way to refuel is also dangerous. Japan is probably the only country to have a dedicated shipgirl program while the rest of the countries with coastlines probably have just a handful being on the defensive since Abyssal threat is not that high compared to Japan, which is surrounded by them. Not to mention the Marianas Trench is quite literally next door, where it is the perfect breeding grounds for new Abyssal abominations.
>>15083750
Nah bro. This is basically just magical girls with ships. Probably cheaper to send magical girls than actual ships, not to mention no one can see cute magical girls to each others as an act of war.
>>15083767
But according to the Vita game, Panama canal, and Pearl Harbor have been infected with Abyssals too.Your face when phase 2 is actually battles beyond the Pacific.
![skZBxKXZ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FnzaWrb.jpg "skZBxKXZ[1].jpg")
>>15083818
I want to pluck her G string
>>15083767
>Japan is probably the only country to have a dedicated shipgirl program
Just because the PS Vita game (for obvious reasons) doesn't cover the Atlantic doesn't mean that the Atlantic and Mediterranean nations aren't dealing with similar problems.
Just by the Capital Ships sunk or scuttled in the Mediterranean and Atlantic (Fast Battleships Bismarck and Roma, Battlecruiser Hood, the older fast battleships of the Scharnhorst-class and Dunkerque Class, Aircraft Carriers Aquila, Ark Royal, Courageous and Glorious), you're looking at some significant potential opponents, not to mention the fuckload of U-boats the Germans threw into battle and the fuckload of escort carriers, DDs and cruisers the allies threw into stopping them.
>>15083712
>still no update to KanColle Arcade news
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I want to wake up from this 1-3 compass nightmare.
>>15083681
Sure, why not.
>>15083684
>>15083689
>>15083692
>>15083698
lel
Summer E2 for example would've been much easier with dupe CLT available. Of course it's not needed, but anything that reduces the chances of you ending up smashing something in frustration ought to be appreciated.
>>15083915
>summer e2
>difficult
you could clear that shit with level 30 CAs
>>15083915
>Summer E2
That's probably not a good example, the map was hilariously easy that you didn't even need BBs. Only E3 and E5 needed them, where I sent Ooi and Kiso to. And even if you did sent a CLT to E2, it would still be 3 maps total where you used them.
>>15083797
>phase 2 is actually battles beyond the Pacific
>Hundreds ofFletchers droppable
>>15083734
you mean abushittestvoiceingame
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYlzkMGYtEA
@9:04 Man, Mikazuki looks so cool. Glad to see her get some attention.
>>15083926
CLT didn't help me much in clearing E-5 easily.
She was dead weight on most runs.
E-2 was even easier.
The only map a CLT would even help in summer was E-3 and that didn't help me much in that map either.
>>15083940
If resource and expedition is non existant in arcade whats the point of using mutsuki class ?
>>15083946
routing on rare situations
>he didn't use dupe Kaga Reppuu mule in E4 so as to free up space for one CLT
>>15083942
>Kiso
Found your problem.
>>15083951
Even Kiso is better than 95% of the ships in this game
>>15083951
>dupes
didn't need them
>kiso
not like you needed CLT for any map past E-5
>>15083946
challenging yourself
>>15083955
Yeah, but she's worse than dupes of the remaining 5%.
>>15083956
It's the difference between needing support and not needing support.
>>15083964
I didn't need support for either.
You fucking told me I would get better opponents if I do my EOS, get higher level fleets and more exp.
What the fuck is this bullshit? You lied to me.
>>15083979
>大将
>>15083979
well 5 DDs
it's an easy victory
not the best exp
it happens for that rank
just do it you'll get decent exp for what it's worth
>>15083966
No support for E4 hard too?
My nigga
xth for the cutest
>>15083986
Support didnt' really benefit you much for E-4 hard.
I'm a newfag who started in 2015
E-4 was the second most difficult map that event.
>>15083983
Not everyone has time to grind 5-4 to get into the 元帥 club.
>>15083983
What am I supposed to grind 5-4 boss to get this 5 times?
>>15083985
It's harder than 3-2 and gives less exp I might aswell skip it.
I always see these screenshots of people leaving up 2 married ships at level 120. Why does that shit never happen to me?
>>15083995
nigger that is free exp
>>15083994
>>15083995
Finishing all EOs and dailies/weeklies will put you at gensui for the month. I'm currently at rank 500 without touching 5-4 at all.
>>15083979
Sorry. Don't do your EOs then.
I expected nothing, and I'm still disappointed.
>>15083995
Keep in mind that right now it's prime time in Japan. Ideally you'd want to wait a few hours for their fleet to change.
>>15084001
what the fuck are you doing
>>15084003
Attempting to jew the fuck out of the first two dailies, that's what.
>>15083999
We're half way into the month, if doing EOs and a few other map clears for weeklies is enough to put you into the top 1% of your server then you must have a pretty easy server.
>>15084002
So they all have lv 35 Akashi as their fs and I get even less exp?
Yeah fuck this. And fuck all those bullshitters who told me PvP at high ranks gives an average of 800 exp.
>>15084008
A level 35 Akashi and a high level second slot will still get you 600-700 exp per ship, more for MVP and flagship.
>>15084005
just solo sparkle a dd
if you want to do stuff after bring escorts to minimize repair time.
>>15084008
you do realize that the second ship has more of an influence on exp right?
read the wiki
gensui is shit because of ranking for your information
>>15084006
I bet you do 24 boss encounters at 1-1 too
>>15084010
It literally doesn't. I can post a screenshot in a few hours to prove it. It's usually around 500 exp. That's slightly better than a single 3-2 run and usually a lot harder and more expensive.
>>15084011
What fucking rank should I be then? I thought I should aim as high as possible. Also i am Taishou.
>>15083979
lolno
You just do EOs for the medals
Gensui here and half the fleets I face have at least one of the first 2 ships being married.
>>15083991
Fuck off Ooi, nobody would listen to you anymore after what you did to pyon.
Bisko gun or proto 41 for todays improvement?
>>15084016
I sparkle like 5-9 ships daily why wouldn't I.
Only 5-4 benefits you if you aren't stockpiling at the moment.
>>15084018
Learn to observe your server.
Each one is different.
>>15084022
41 is improvable every day while 38 kai is on 3 days
Do what you feel you need more.
>>15084018
>Not using glorious Kashima
There's your problem.
>>15083995
Boo fucking hoo, you get 500 base exp instead of 600, what a catastrophe.
>>15084018
>not S ranking that kind of fleet
:^)
>>15084019
Nahh I am also gensui most of my pvp fleets flag is dupe dragons or kita ooi.
>>15084029
>>15084031
No, S rank exp. Base exp is even lower.
Last thread some asshole claimed he made 800 exp on average. What is up with that? I make 500 exp on average if I am lucky and get 5 S ranks. And that requires me to constantly change fleets and equipment to actually be effective against what my opponent has. Grinding 3-2 is faster and more resource effecient than that.
If the shitty fleets I get keep up I will just skip PvP completely past the weekly quest for the screw.
>>15084026
I am on Hashirajima Anchorage(in b4 memes). The only server that had open space when I started earlier this year.
>>15084026
Guess I'll go for 41 if stock Bisko guns are enough for hotels in combined
>>15084033
Server? Hitokappu here since the server's creation and I've only ever encountered one faggot with two level 1 ships. Everyone else I've met is pretty nice like that.
>>15084036
I wanted to start in 2014 and ended up in Saiki Bay, so I don't really give a shit about that. If you want better PvP experience learn how your server operates. Or just say fuck it and take the exp on small ships regardless if a win or not.
>>15084036
That asshole was using Kashima and Katori or outright lying, the difference from having two level 120s and that fleet with a level 60 flagship is less than 100 exp and you can beat that fleet with 6DD easily.
>>15084036
I wasn't lying. Two ships of a decent level (both 60+) will pull in that much. I use a level 96 Kashima though, which boosts my experience gain. Katori is easily craftable now so even if you're missing Kashima there's no reason not to have at least Katori. Training cruisers are love.
>>15084006
I don't know what the gensui cut off rank is since server population is not public information but senka.me shows rank 990 as gensui on all servers, ~900 pts.
EOs alone are worth 705 points, counting in the points you get while clearing the maps puts you at around 750. 2 weeks of dailies and weeklies will easy make up the rest.
>>15084036
>Hashirajima
The memes have some truth to it. That server reeks of faggots.
>>15084045
I only use one.
How do I tell my girls not to get hit by Ta before we reach the boss at 4-5?
>>15084049
Not all rank 990s are Gensui. Cutoff for Gensui for most servers is around 800-900 points though, unless you're in some super old server.
>>15084056
Level them up more.
>>15084056
You can't.
>>15084059
My Haguro is lv92 and she still hasn't learned.
>>15084062
63 more levels to go until she understands.
>>15084062
Aim for level 155.
>>15084062
Get her to 96-155 then.
4-5 don't give a fuck about what level your ships are.
You either get lucky and get to last kill in 4 sorties or it can take more than 10.
Last kill on that map is another story of a similar narrative.
Or you could get better taste.
>>15084066
I'm pretty sure Haguro is too young for marriage.
Christ I feel dirty now.But getting over 1k fuel makes up for it.
>>15084077
Sasuga Abunnoyingfag.
>>15084077
What are you even doing there? What map is that?
>>15084077
Here is your reply.
>>15084083
1-6 fodder strategy aka "I'm a shitter and don't care".
>>15084082
>ABKM
Didn't have a fodder CL on hand.
>>15084076
Haguro is actually older than Ashigara.
>>15084088
I don't know why you'd spend resources on 1-6. If it's XP were more in line with 1-5 DDs wouldn't be as painful to level. Such a shitty map.
>>15084088
How does that work? If you use lv 1 unremodeled unmodernized ships you can still get through 1-6?
>>15084096
Because a half BB refuel worth of ammo/fuel has any impact. That's just a fucking shitty excuse fodder fags came up with trying to save their last bit of self-esteem
>>15084097
Pretty much. Only the 2nd and 3rd nodes do any damage. A single damcon on the flag lets you advance to the resource node if it's taiha.
>>15084101
>implying I had any when I started playing
Nobody posting on /jp/ has any for that matter.
>>15083935
If she ever gets into the game I want tons of jokes of having too many siblings.
>>15084097
1 flag, 5 fodder, the goal is just to let them eat damage and/or sink. You aren't there to kill off everything, you just need to survive to reach the final resource node.
>>15084096
DDs use very little in the first place, I don't know why you'd scum it up and sink ships just to save yourself a tiny amount of fuel and ammo. And for those precious few points of ammo and fuel you'll forever be kuso. Way to go, admiral.
>>15084104
fun fact you even get the fuel/ammo back from the ships that sink!
>>15084110
I'd rather take 50% fuel/ammo from scrapping. Takes far less time than throwing DDs into 5-5.
Top five yasen power DDs for this year's spring event:
Yuudachi 166 (73+93)
Kawakaze 165 (69+96)
Shimakaze 158 (59+99)
Ayanami 157 (70+87)
Ooshio 157 (67+90)
>>15084120
>Kawakaze
Stopped reading there
This is b8.
>>15084123
It's a leak, my father works at Tanaka.
>>15084120
and no one gives a shit
>>15084106
>you'll forever be kuso
But I want to be kuso. Being kuso is fun! Supplying your boatsluts so they D rank themselves through a shit map that gives no exp and possibly taihas them is not.
>>15084130
>boat
>>15084130
>D rank
Literally git gud and if you cared about ranks you wouldn't be sinking ships either.
So,it is likely that the first few event map will award the land-fighting plane, then at the second last map it will be a fairly hard installation boss accompanied by a few turrets which requires you to use the newly acquired planes?
>>15084115
it's good for BB/CVs
>>15084144
Clearing the event will be easier than clearing world 6.
>>15084145
Not at the point where I have no better use for capital ships than sinking them for resources.
>>15084149
And after clearing the event 6-4 would be easier.
Newbie TTK here.
Damn you guys should have told me earlier about this. After I saw the difficulty stars of 1-6 and I wasn't even able to finish 2-5 last month I thought there is no way I could beat 1-6 so I didn't even try. I could have gotten the present box last month too.
This tactic is perfect. I can literally complete 1-6 with level 1 ships. I am so damn happy right now.
Why doesn't the wiki list the strategy on the sortie page? This is FAR better than using some AACI setup with Isuzu or Kasumi K2B (which I both don't have).
>>15084173
Here's your (you). Hope this is your biggest accomplishment in your whole life.
>>15084173
here u go
ez (You)s
>>15084173
Kuso method has been prevalent for like the past 5-9 months here. It's been known for a long time at least.
It's still stupid.
Have a reply.
>>15084173
You have tainted yourself and your whole family's honor with shit and this shit won't go away until you kill yourself.
>>15084173
>Wanting a (You) so badly
We all know how easy 1-6 is with fodder DDs. I stop using it once I got enough levels on my DDs since it affects my winrate.
>>15084186
Training Maruyu at 5-3 affects your winrate much more.
>>15084175
>>15084176
>>15084179
>>15084182
>>15084186
What's wrong with using that tactic though? I would have scrapped the girls anyways so it's not lime I am harming them.
Also I don't have another option. There is no way I could complete this with my regular fleet. My highest DD is level 34.
And seriously, why doesn't the wiki mention it? It's a real good piece of information, they should include it.
>>15084187
>>15084186
Once you get into the 10k win total it becomes impossible to move your win% any appreciable amount.
>>15084193
>they should include it.
Too proud to (and really no reason to either). The only place where fodder tactics are mentioned are on 5-3, and even then it's pretty hush hush.
>>15084193
No, they shouldn't. It's the kuso way and it should stay with us.
>>15084193
Scrapping only gets rid of the rigging, sinking kills the girl. Please understand.
>why doesn't the wiki mention it?
Not even wikiatards are such advanced kusos to encourage that.
>>15084187
Just train Maruyu at 2-5 man.
>>15084199
Wikiatards are advanced kusos in unintended and unproductive ways.
>>15084196
Indeed. I honestly don't care about D ranks. 1-6 is like, 15 of them a month?
>>15084207
>are kusos in unintended and unproductive ways
That's the definition of a normal kuso, advanced kusos do it for a profit and purposefully.
>>15084208
You don't even have to take the D at 1-6.
>>15084193
Wikia is used by a bunch of retards.
Even level1 boats can serve their purpose.
>>15084225
>flash player 11
>/b/ meymey
>kuso tactics
Still missing gay sex with hats on.
Mother fucking shit, sent back by sniper sub in 1-5 4 times in a row because fuck Ooshio in the ass with a torp, and sent to not transports in 2-2 12 times in a row. I just want to fucking sleep already.
>>15084228
Upgrade your sonars, or use an engine.
>>15084219
Here's one month's 1-6. I was getting 300 fuel, 100 steel, 100 bauxite, 300 steel.
When I switched to kuso fleet I got 1k fuel. Fuck doing this shitty map with good ships, it doesn't deserve their presence. With good ships there's a chance of catching taiha on the way. With kuso fleet it's easy 7/7 and above average gains.
>>15084232
>Upgrade your sonars
You act like I even have sonars that aren't upgraded.
>engine
Pls.
Got the fucking third transport so I can finally sleep, rng bullshit.
>>15084235
Reward at resource node is random every time except the clearing run which always gives 1k fuel.
I couldn't care any less about resources and haven't had to retreat even once for the past few months, I only do 1-6 for the present box.
>>15084238
Don't use squishy low level DDs.
>>15084241
What qualifies as low level to you? You also have to add on to the fact that the fucker literally aimed at Ooshio 4 runs in a row.
>>15084235
That's just luck based.
I really only care about the free screw, and do 1-6 to do the sink 15 sub weekly.
>>15084228
sometimes 1-5 first node happens
World 2 compass ain't the best. I wanted to finish off 50 transport weekly so I could finish off weeklies overall at Orel today and ended up with 9/10 sorties going to the boss node. I don't complain because I have Maruyu to level.
>>15084193
You. I like you.
Don't listen to what others say. There is no room for sentimentality in war.
>>15084245
This feels like confirmation bias. I've tossed 30-odd CL and AV into 1-5 and got pass the SSN just fine.
>>15084245
It keeps changing. In the past I thought it's below 50. Now I consider it below 80.
>>15084261
>It keeps changing
Pleb.
Anywhere below halfway to level 99 has always been low.
>>15084252
>There is no room for sentimentality in war
The very action of playing kancolle is an act of sentimentality to begin with, you should be enlisting to the navy and coldbloodedly gutting gooks like a real man in war.
>>15084265
I only have 15 above that mark.
>>15084261
Well she was 74, the level 44 Kitakami dodged perfectly fine in the fifth attempt. I'm lead to believe rng didn't want me to sleep when I wanted to, since it misses the times where 2-3 made me stay up for 2 hours before getting that last transport. Anyway, finished scrapping shit so I can finally sleep.
>>15084245
From my logs this month. I did 1-5 23times and I run it with 2DD BB CVL.
1retreat at A
1retreat at C
Flagship is my expedition mutsuki or whoever that need sparkle, level99 Ise, level98 Zuihou and a high level DD usually lvl98 Amatsukaze. Maybe level does matter.
>>15084270
Yes, and? It's been true ever since I started playing.
>>15084193
Late here. But I >>15084186 never said there is anything wrong with the tactic at your stage. It would be unwise to use this tactic when you are capable of doing it without this tactic though.
>>15084277
Maybe, but you're going to need a better sample and control for the info to be anything other than anecdotal.
>>15084267
>The very action of playing kancolle is an act of sentimentality to begin with
Wrong. It is simply just another game that is easy to play yet hard to master. The fact that it's not P2W was what first drew me to this game.
>>15084298
And the fact*
>>15084284
>It would be unwise to use this tactic when you are capable of doing it without this tactic though.
Not him but why? As long as his win rate doesn't fall below 75% there's no problem.
>>15084298
Stop being such a sentimental in denial for humans and go enlist to kill and eventually even order to kill some.
>>15084284
>pay 0 ammo or fuel, and level 1 recon plane chevrons on yamato seaplanes if you need
or
>pay fuel and ammo, and pay for the repairs on 5 level 99 DD's and 1 level 99 CL
hmmmm
>>15084310
Already tried. I didn't even pass the first stage of medical screening.
>>15084308
It is a place to level up your CLs and DDs while completing EO. Sure you can still do it with fodders but why waste exp. If your DDs have decent level they usually only receive scratch damage when doing 1-6.
>>15084320
>pay fuel and ammo, and pay for the repairs on 5 level 99 DD's and 1 level 99 CL
>projecting this far
Not many people have fully leveled everything, and that guy who was doing 1-6 certainly won't have everything at level 99 any time soon.
>>15084337
>3 nodes 600 exp on a lucky roll at 1-6
>3 nodes 900+exp consistently at 3-2
>>15084337
The exp is utter shit and risk of taiha is high. I'd rather send them to 3-2-A or 5-1.
>>15084337
Except it has piss poor levelling rates. 1-5 is miles better even at HQ 80+ and that's saying a lot. And by the point he gets to that HQ level he should have unlocked 5-1 or at least 4-3 anyway.
Better to clear 1-6 with fodder and use the resources you would have used at 1-6 if you had sortied with non-fodder DDs/CLs, to level said non-fodder elsewhere instead.
>>15083818
I wanna finger her fretboard
This is objectively the best 1-6 composition.
How do I level DDs and CLs? I tried to farm 4-3 but I just kept on getting destroyed. Is there a better place or am I doing something wrong?
>>15084369
yes
>>15084369
3-2
>>15084369
You're doing something awfully wrong but yes, there are better places. 5-1 is the best. 4-1 and 3-2-A are pretty good. 1-5 is good below HQ80.
>>15084369
Try 5-1-D.
>>15084369
5-1, you can get destroyed and refresh every 30 minutes instead.
>>15084350
Why are you mentioning 3-2 when it is not related to the topic? You know that you can do both 3-2 and 1-6 right? Sure exp in 1-6 is lower, what I mean is that since you gotta complete 1-6 every month anyway, might as well use it to the fullest. It is like ~7 runs and then you are done. Nobody is saying that you can't level your DDs at 3-2.
>>15084373
>5-1
WHY?
>>15084353
>>15084357
>risk of taiha is high
That is what you get for not bringing Akizuki. Also even without Akizuki the risk of taiha at 3-2 is higher.
>>15084377
OR you could pay no fuel and ammo, and use that at literally any other map
>b-but i have 300,000 resources
>>15084378
Because you can do more at the same time and it still sucks
4-3 works for equipment farming while leveling a DD.
5-4 you can do just about every weekly except kill x boss ones.
>>15084386
It's the amount of resources you get from 1 sparkled exp 5.
If you want to min/max that every month then so be it but seriously it is not needed.
>>15084378
Because it's the best.
>>15084383
Taiha at 3-2 is 100%
For the sub.
>>15084383
>>15084357 here, I never said anything about taiha. I was only talking about the resource use.
>>15084396
And what the fuck do you do when you don't go to the sub node? Refresh? Have 4 taiha ships?
>>15084402
Not really, Maruyu taihas ever 3-4 sorties and takes 7 minutes to repair and costs virtually nothing.
>>15084386
Implying the only resources we are concerned about are fuel/ammo. Fodder run is not guaranteed since your flagship can get taiha'd. You can use those time for the extra run to do something else. Or you can just use non-fodder and done with it quickly.
>>15084404
Refresh of course.
>>15084404
you refresh
if you don't like it you can go back to himeuta or something i guess, you're the one that asked
>>15084404
Not him but anyone who does 5-1 grinding but doesn't refresh is retarded.
>>15084406
What is damecon?
>>15084406
>Fodder run is not guaranteed since your flagship can get taiha'd.
Pffft.
The risk of it happening is much lower than elite DD catching taiha on air node.
You're completely wrong. It's fodder fleet that has higher chance of success.
>>15084403
You are talking about resources and yet you somehow think that taiha won't cost extra resources? Jesus look at what you've wrote.
>>15084386
Time is a resource.
>>15084406
In the last 6 months i haven't gotten taiha fs at the airstrike node even once
bait harder pls, just say that you don't want to be kuso or something, at least then we'll understand kind of
>>15084422
Setting up AACI and the rest of your ships costs time
>>15084414
Well taiha usually happens at the aerial node. You are a generous man if you choose to continue and waste one damecon on a fodder.
>>15084415
So I am guessing your Akizuki, Teruzuki and Hatsuzuki all are already at level 99?
>>15084424
>In the last 6 months i haven't gotten taiha fs at the airstrike node even once
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe you might actually think it is true.
>>15084416
You're more likely to get taiha at the closing torp phase at the third node of 1-6 with non-fodder 1 CL 5 DD than at the opening torp phase at 5-1-D or even the first node of 1-5 with the same fleet. Taking taiha out of the equation was actually in 1-6's favour, and even then it was still the worst choice.
>>15084431
I use >>15084365
Flagship MVP is the only spot in whole fleet that has not-pathetic exp gain, also a free sparkle.
But yes, Akizuki is already 99. Anyway, Duck usually protects fodder on air node pretty well and the fodder protects the Duck on next node by not dying in shelling and tanking torps.
>>15084430
It should be default on your DDs anyway, especially AA-only specialists. Obviously you don't use cut-in DDs when even standard ones will do.
>>15084434
I've only gotten 1 taiha at the airstrike node since the map has been introduced.
I refuse to sink a ship at all.
>>15084437
You should play more.
>>15084431
>>15084434
>>15084422
>>15084406
Why are you so adamant about this topic? You aren't even giving good reasons anymore. Of course you're free to do whatever you want, but if you're going to type dumb shit like "taiha usually happens at aerial node" you should just fuck off and die senpai desu.
>>15084447
You first.
>On 22 February, Max Schultz and five other destroyers, Z1 Leberecht Maass, Z4 Richard Beitzen, Z6 Theodor Riedel, Z13 Erich Koellner and Z16 Friedrich Eckoldt, sailed for the Dogger Bank to intercept British fishing vessels in "Operation Wikinger".
>En route, the flotilla was erroneously attacked by a Heinkel He 111 bomber from Bomber Wing (Kampfgeschwader) 26.
>Leberecht Maass was hit by at least one bomb, lost steering, and broke in half, sinking with the loss of 280 of her crew.
>During the rescue effort, Max Schultz hit a mine and sank with the loss of her entire crew of 308.
>Hitler ordered a Court of Inquiry to be convened to investigate the cause of the losses and it concluded that both ships that been sunk by bombs from the He 111.
>The Kriegsmarine had failed to notify its destroyers that the Luftwaffe was making anti-shipping patrols at that time and had also failed to inform the Luftwaffe that its destroyers would be at sea.
>>15084437
I am not saying that 1-6 is a good place to farm exp. I am not retarded enough to think that 1-6 is superior than 3-2 or 5-1 to farm exp. What I am saying is that there is no reason to waste exp by using fodder when your fleet is strong enough since your gotta go there at least 7 times a month. Once you are done, you don't have to go back to 1-6 for that month and can go to 3-2 or 5-1 or wherever else you wish to level your DDs and CLs.
>>15084441
Seems decent. And the fodders survived.
>>15084447
>Losing an argument
>"S-shit, I have no points to present anymore"
>"Better call out another party that his points are shit to conceal the fact that I have no point"
>"J-just give up already!"
Why are you arguing against me if you think that we can do whatever the fuck we want? Unless you think that leveling ships while doing 1-6 to conserve energy and time is somehow the only thing that I shouldn't do?
And "taiha usually happens at aerial node" is indeed true if you forgot to bring any AA. Third node closing torp is not a problem if your fleet is strong enough to kill ~5 of the enemy ships consistently, which is why I said it is good only when you have a decent fleet.
>>15084472
lol
>>15084472
i'm sorey mane you were right i should bringg my dd's to 1-6 to level them! thanks you! thankyoybso much for enlight me!
>>15084396
can you give me your setup?
>>15084472
>waste exp
It's not a waste if the returns just aren't worth it. And here the fuel/ammo used is nowhere near worth the exp gained; a single 5-1-D run alone gives more than whatever 1-6 can give.
There's a saying that if Bill Gates dropped a $50 dollar note he'd lose more money by spending the time to pick it up because he earned over $10k a minute as CEO of Microsoft. Same applies here.
>>15084490
What do you take against subs while trying to grant flagship MVP, that is your answer.
>>15084493
The cost of doing 1-6 each month is like Bill Gates dropping a nickel.
The amount of exp is like Bill Gates finding 4 pennies on the ground.
Both are so minuscule that no one should give a shit.
>>15084490
Something like this. Uzuki has three pieces because chuuha. Isuzu is low level because in the past I simply sent 6DDs there.
>>15084500
>2001 + 15
>not caring about numbers on spreadsheet simulator
>>15084500
It is more like Bill Gates has to drop a nickel at least 7 times a month, by finding 4 pennies on the ground every time he dropped a nickel will at least minimize his inevitable loss to 1 penny. But yeah I get your point.
>>15084507
He has a point too though :^)
>>15084493
I just use my preset from 3-5 to do my 1-6. It saves me a lot of time arranging another fleet of fodder or changing setup. I have no idea how efficient/ineffecient it is but it gets the job done fast and clean so I never change the way I do it.
>>15084365
Some people just cant accept it even when face with the facts. It is just like how 4SS 2DD is objectively the best composition for 5-3.
>>15084560
>Still going at it.
Guys, just. Stop.
>>15084560
No, it isn't. 5DD1CL is the best. Night battle map wants night battle ships. The map is supposed to be a challenge, subcheesing it is wrong.
>>15084565
>subs aren't night battle ships
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
I need Aoba for quest, what is the faster metod to get her?
>>15084565
How is testing your rng supposed to be considered as a "challenge"? It's more of a stress simulator/test of patienceor remaining buckets. NB nodes usually consist of either your fleet getting taiha'd/chuuha'd or vice versa for the enemy fleet.I don't advance with any taihas during sorties either, so I'm under the mercy of shit routing/rng.
>>15084565
Sucking dicks is supposed to be wrong, but that won't stop me from doing it.
>>15084627
Sortie to some map to do dome thing for some purpose.
>>15084565
Wrong, anon, the best fleet for a map is defined as the fleet that makes the map the least of a challenge.
>>15084500
>Both are so minuscule that no one should give a shit.
But you just admitted there is a difference. And to an autist like many of the ones here, that's more than enough reason to give a shit, to conclude that sending non-fodder 1 CL 5 DD to 1-6 isn't worth it.
>fail overnight expedition because the light cruiser wasn't in flagship position
JUST
>>15084643
Gee, I wonder who to blame on that failure.
>>15084643
>he didn't use the function that can check if a fleet fulfills an expedition's requirements
kek
>>15084625
They're boats, retard.
>>15084630
That's how challenge works in KanColle. Is it really so hard to understand?
>>15084632
Sure, I have no problem with that, carry on.
>>15084636
Subcheesing is wroooong. Give them a break.
>>15084669
And all boats are ships. Your point?
>>15084679
No, they aren't.
>>15084691
Yes, they are.
>>15084679
>One thing that sets a ship apart from a boat is size. According the U.S. Naval Institute, a boat, generally speaking, is small enough to be carried aboard a larger vessel, and a vessel large enough to carry a smaller one is a ship.
Daihatsu is a boat, and our shipgirls are ships.
>>15084669
How is a challenge when both fleets can basically oneshot each other?
A challenge would be a map that would still be difficult to clear, even with the whole fleet holepunched with damecons/repair goddesses, not to mention routing and whatnot.
>>15083712
>April 26
>April 22
>May 2nd
>>15084700
No. Recangle 2x1 isn't a square.
>>15084733
Exactly. So not all ships are boats.
>>15084669
Subs are like the special forces of my fleet. They have to deal with a lot more shit, but they get respected and loved all the more for it.
>>15084733
Subs can carry minisubs, so there.
Technically if any boat that can carry another boat is a ship, then practically every boat is a ship as they can carry small rescue boats and such.
Submarines aren't boats because of the 艦 kanji in 潜水艦
>>15084817
I don't get the whole "submarines are boats" thing. Lots of them were as big as destroyers and destroyers are always ships.
botes
>>15084894
bots
>>15084668
Where is that function?
>>15085236
Perhaps in Jewjet's Wikia Three Kai for Botnet.
>>15085240
>another feature that isn't in KCV
>>15085247
Dumb feelposter.
>>15085247
If you don't always have CL as flagship, you deserve to fail the expedition.
to do three standard battle ship formulas or one LSC, to get a monkey!?
>>15083912
What happened?
>>15085289
Pick some CV(L)s you want to level. Pick some whatever else you want to level (DDs, CAs, whatever), throw in a submarine and go sit in 3-2 A for a few hours. You'll get endless monkeys and some levels to boot.
Guy who has been bitching about PvP earlier reporting back.
Sure love all those millions and millions of exp I get from PvP.
>>15085395
Nobody cares.
>>15085395
You can easily use that to get your support fleets to cond100. Nothing really to bitch about
>>15085395
It's TAIGEI.
>>15085395
Top 1000 is terrible for PvP.
>>15085395
Guy getting 800 average here, feels good man.
>>15085395
Your server must be terrible. I haven't had a level 1 in 2 months on Shortland.
>>15085395
I have two fleets with subs, one of them waifus, other 99.
One full fleet with ~60 but guy has some waifu so I'll wait.
Two fleets with just ~120 waifus, two and one respectively.
In short, git gud.
>>15085407
New sprite for Shigure?
>>15085483
Not you again.
>>15085483
No.
Fucking red T.
Yes, Goya is alive.
>>15085395
pvp sucks
>>15085541
Fucking floor that <2hp in PvP, is that too much to ask?
>>15085541
>this fleet
>>15085559
Four of them should be able to kill subs, each having two turns. Sadly Mizuho was barely doing anything because redT, Kashima failed to oneshot Goya and Hayasui missed, so Kamo stole the MVP. Disaster.
>>15085557
Or show fractions of one as 2 hp at the fucking least.
>>15085596
What are you talking about?
>>15085592
Why are you taking a BB to PvP with sub-only fleet? You should replace Mutsu with any other DD or CL since it is the best way for them to get level while BBs have many other ways/maps to get level from.
>>15085592
>complain about Red T
>don't bring a saiun
Blame yourself, not your ships.
>>15085592
>Kashima failed to one shot
>4 slot cruiser can't deal 22 damage
I question your equipment setup.
>>15085488
He isn't me because I'd call her ShiTgure, not Shigure.
>>15085608
Second shelling? Do you even play this game? Do you know that S rank gives more exp? Mutsu is slow BB so I can't bring her to 5-4 and she would appreciate some more levels.
>>15085609
I blame RNG. It was the only fight this week in which redT could be a problem, so of course it had to happen.
>bringing carrier to PvP
>>15085628
If you look at the image carefully, you will see that Hayasui was the flagship and not Kashima. Flagship has a bonus to exp so it's good when flagship grabs MVP. Just so you know, MVP goes to ship who dealt the most damage.
>>15085603
In PvP, if ship is not dead show its HP as 2. Pretty much.
