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Game links:
>r18 games
http://www.nutaku.net/games
>all ages games
http://www.nutaku.com/games

>Forums
http://harem-battle.club/

>Eng Wiki Links (Unless otherwise mentioned)
http://harem-battle.club/wiki/

Lord of Valkyrie:
>Eng wiki:
http://lord-of-valkyrie.wikia.com/wiki/Lord_of_Valkyrie_Wiki
>Jp wiki:
http://seesaawiki.jp/lordofwalkure/
>/jp/ player list:
pastebin.com/URgv8JPA
>additional helpful info
pastebin.com/fBcebLvM

Millennium War Aigis:
>Eng Wiki
http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/wiki/Millennium_War_Aigis_Wiki
>Jp Wiki
http://aigis.gcwiki.info/
>Jp ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=24452
>Eng ULMF thread:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=26860
>XP chart
http://i.imgur.com/okVV7hJ.png
>Vid anon's channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkAJz5hSVU_zaF0EqLiCKkg

Angelic Saga:
>Jp Wiki
http://angelicsaga.wiki.fc2.com/

Osawari Island:
>Jp Osawari wiki
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/
>Osawari chat
http://osawari.chatango.com/
>Jp Alchemy Page
http://seesaawiki.jp/yukeyukeosawari/d/%cf%a3%b6%e2
>Osawari Friend Code List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14nTSJx7xC8B2s7Zw-cXo5VEIjzIctGH-yMBEBEtrhGE

Girl's Kingdom:
>Jp Wiki
http://girls-union-wiki.gamerch.com/

Dragon Tactics:
>Jp Wiki
http://ドラゴンタクティクスメモリー.攻略wiki.com/

Kanpani Girls:
>Jp Wiki
http://wikiwiki.jp/kanpani/
>Additional Info
pastebin.com/e8duPYHd

Dragon Providence:
>Jp Wiki
http://drapro.wiki.fc2.com/

Hitsuji Chronicle:
>Jp Wiki
http://gwiki.jp/sheep/

Miscellaneous links:
>Staff Twitter:
https://twitter.com/nutakugames


DMM

Flower Knight Girl
>Wiki
http://フラワーナイトガール.攻略wiki.com/
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frosty piss
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>>14784858
OP should have been one of the girls taking a break.

So how is everyone else on Aigis Nutaku doing? I just sold all of my irons cause no one needed the level and I wanted the space for fairies.
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>>14784967
Well, I have this if someone wants to use it for the next OP. It's of girls who were at one time considered trash by the nips, taking a permanent break inside the second/third barracks.
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>>14785092
>Elaine
It's hilarious that she's our only Silver Valkyrie.

Also, recognizing Sybilla, Odette and Mikoto, aren't they pretty good, if not viable?
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>>14784967
Leveling up Marie and Beatrice

Since that's why they gave us this break in the first place

Honestly though since we are going to be getting buffed versions of the events it helps to have all these extra units around.
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>>14785106
Mikoto got buffed A LOT. She used to be single target, comparable damage to a silver witch with twice the cost, for just slightly better slowing and range.
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>>14784967
leveling Deine up to 50 the hard way, for CC
rip money

>>14785145
so glad we got buffed Mikoto
I have her on my alt account and she can solo Phalanx 2 at lv40 100% affection.
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>>14784780
Ishtar is a great support, While Jabberwock has great magic attacks. That said, they're both SSR, which is the 3rd best rarity in the game.

The only two rarities better than SSR are GR, of which only 1 exists and is not implemented in the game yet, and LR which is the strongest rarity, of which only 3 exist1: 1 God, Demon, and Beast.

As for mobile version, you don't have to do anything really. Just log onto nutaku with your phone and open up Dragon Providence. No download bullshit necessary.
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>>14785106
Odette is good, but leveling her skill is absolute hell because fucking 16 levels instead of 5. So unless you have her at a decent skill level, she's basically just a more expensive Plat Mage with a shitty skill. Which is a problem since Bishops 99% of the time fill the same roll as Mages, and there have been 3x Event Bishops already. One of which was a Black with a really strong AW Skill + AW Passive.

Sybilla is honestly weaker than Olivie(r), on Skill AW now though she at least gets range.

And >>14785145 already explained Mikoto.
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>>14784453
The relationship between the Aigis developers and Nutaku is an abusive relationship at best and a master/slave relationship at worst.
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>>14785197
>>14785145
Thanks for the insight senpai(s).

I've only played on Nutaku, but yeah, my Odette is warming the bench since I got her and I haven't gotten Mikoto yet.

As for Sybilla, she's been my main duelist since I got her, so I was surprised to see her on the bench image.
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>>14785301
As unit, she's good but as black, she is meh tier
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>>14785202
Well, Nutaku is so awful a company that I don't doubt they ticked off dev tea somehow.

It also says something about their integrity as a business that their standard response nowadays is explicitly blaming their partners.
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>>14785382
We dont know who offended who. So lets not talk about which one ticked off who. We only know one of them is fucking up and screwing the players over so lets end it at that?

I don't think any of the players wants to ruin our pitiful NA version any harder.
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When is aegis maintenance ending?
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>>14785402
Actually, I do. I play on DMM so no skin off my neck, watching the Nutaku Aigis soap opera is fun.

Will they ever return to constant events instead of breaks every other week? Will Awakening arrive on March 8? How long until we learn that the "surprise" is actually a service closure announcement? Tune in next week to find out!
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>>14785429
In 2 more hours, if I recall correctly.
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>>14785443
thanks, I've given the game a time since I was travelling, I am glad I could buy a barrack, now I can put all my waifus with no discretion
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So I'm currently planning om who to attempt to awaken once awakening comes.

I'm thinking Olivie is a given but I kind of want to awaken Adele first. Does her HP bonus effect everyone on my team?
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>>14785944
If it is anything like dmm, we may only get one class awakening at a time.
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>>14785992
That would be most cruel prank of dev tea.
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>>14785944
Yes it does. Adele was my first ever awoken unit, despite never really using her since I got Despara, I still pretty much always bring her for the HP boost.
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>>14785992
The original awakening patch wasn't one class though. From what I remember it was only classes that could be CC'd.
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1500 true damage for 30 seconds for 15 unit cost at level 40 and 0 aff. Metus is hardcore.
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>>14786172
Oh, and range 250 compared to 210 of witch or 240 of mage.
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Wow, the new pirate have triple shot like Bashira.
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>>14786172
I almost regret not using SCs. Stopped at 600.
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>>14786240
I regret waiting til the last minute. I could have gotten her to -4 cost if I had another 2 hours.
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>>14786211
Her skill AW is 5 targets at once, 3 shots at once per each target, which is damn awesome too, even if just for 10 seconds.
Planned to not spend SCs on her, but now I'm not sure.
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>>14786326
and she is cute af, i am going to use all my chocolates if i have to
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Metus is sure doS.
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>>14786348
t-translate it weebs
(is there a place to get all of the story translated other than machine translating the wiki)
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>>14786363
This is her 30% aff h-scene, she drugged prince when he was drinking with soldiers, tied him naked to bed, and kept raping till he fainted from exhaustion.

Petite translates story text, but he doesn't do affection events AFAIK.
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>>14786378
is she one drop per map?
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>>14786412
Metus is black necromancer from previous event.
This event is platinum Sabrina. She drops from every map except 挟撃の甲板, but with certain chance. God-tier map has 100% drop rate, Extreme-tier has 50% drop rate.
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Gold Dragon Rider Abel in trade post for 70 crystals. Interesting deal.
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>>14786448
Speaking of the trade post, is Junna worth it?
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>>14786468
ジャ is "ja", so she's Janna.
I use Janna+Kannon for higher difficulty DC daily, but I almost never deploy canoneers otherwise.
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sailor apprentice Marie can't do shit
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>>14786180
But her attack speed is way lower I believe.
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>>14786594
Yeah, Necromancers attack about 55% as fast as the slowest witches.
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Target collection and MajiKore? DMM doesn't even try. Altho "maji kore" is kinda ironical if you read it as 本気此れ
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>>14786552
Leave Marie alone,
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>>14786552
at least you can fap to her
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The prince, hero of humans, who was freaking out when empire used bunch of purple gobbos. Need to add some majins, fallen angels and summoners tho.
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>>14786835
>The prince, hero of humans, who was freaking out when empire used bunch of purple gobbos
Nah, That's just Anna. Prince just didn't a crap.
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>>14786886
"......"
- Prince, every time
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>>14786889
didn't one of the girls say something about that in her h-scene? Like he should say something from time to time
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>>14786892
It was monica.
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Someone finally added Metus AW stats on wiki.
870 base attack, +15% ability.
870 * 1.15 * 1.2 * 3 = 3601 true damage
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>>14786916
Doesn't compare to my level 99 Despara's AoE 1134 damage at around 5 times as fast.
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>>14786923
Despara deals magic damage, while Metus true damage.
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>>14786930
Sure, it's not as much damage if you're trying to burst down Amon or something, but it's also AoE and slows everything it hits down pretty much to a halt. Oh and you can use it more than once per map. Metus is good, but she's nothing special as far as blacks go.
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>>14786909
Monica is such a god tier waifu, really.
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>all these mermen
When is Aigis going to get a mermaid princess? We have a dragon princess and a vampire princess already.

Better yet, kraken princess with multi-block and 8 arm tokens tokens before awakening + 2 stronger tentacle tokens after it.
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>>14786172
Metus's normal skill: 870x1,15x3x0,29x30 = 26113 total damage
Metus's AW skill: 870x1,15x3x0,29x20 = 17408
Ricca's AW skill: 795x1,15x20 = 18285

That's really underwhelming especially considering she's limited to 1 or 3 uses. And Ricca could still do more damage thanks to her passive.
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>>14787228
Sure, but are there any farmable units that can beat Ricca's DPS?
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>>14787321
Ricca is a farm unit.
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>>14787405
Never said she wasn't.
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>>14787414
Than what's your point?
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>>14787417
My point is that she does a lot of fucking damage.
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>>14785106
>>14785197
>>14785301
Sybilla is in the picture not because of Olivie but because of Sherry.
Sherry is stronger burst, cheaper, plat vs black so far easier to get, stronger skill(1.5x vs 1.1, 1.8x vs 1.5 max) and the only downsides were skill taking 30 seconds for use and Sybilla being tankier which wasn't needed back then.

Things are very different now since the picture was made a long time ago.
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>>14787456
How is Sherry's DPS compared to the other princesses these days anyway?

I know Lilia got a massive boost from her skill AW, but I haven't heard much about Sherry.
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>>14787462
I believe Sherrys skill awakening took her down to 1.5x damage but made it ranged aoe which would make her weaker 1 on 1 than some of the other princesses.
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Speaking of unit usefulness, I find it kinda funny that Nagi is a unit that attacks at range but her niche feels like it's mostly that she's a cheap tank.
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>>14787035
and in her scene she tentacle-rapes the prince?
I'm in
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>>14787228
Why you excluded prince buff?
Her role is to kill one mega-boss with huge defence and MR, and at this she's much better than Rikka, her damage for these 30 seconds is much higher as your own calculations show, and at same time she can safely tank that boss with tokens.
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>>14787689
Also, forgot to mention, her skill needs only 1 second to activate. You can drop her right next to boss, immediately drop token, and immediately activate skill.
I've played around with her on these pirate maps, she solo'ed majin on extreme map.
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>>14787689
I excluded Prince buff because it depends on which buff you use and I was comparing between them.
Her 30 seconds skill is one use only. For a black collection unit I expected better, personally.
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>>14787577
Squid have an unusual mating system where the female will store the male's sperm until her eggs mature, after which she will lay her eggs and manually fertilize them (at which point the male is usually long gone). So possibly a yandere who plans to collect the Prince's sperm in her 30% scene so that she can bear thousands of his children against his consent?

Squid eggs tend to cluster too, so she can spread them over her cleavage and give him paizuri until he literally impregnates her chest, or she could jack him off into a soft, squishy onahole made out of her eggs.
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>>14786946
Well, you get her skill maxed and mincosted nearly without effort, how manny crystals would you have to burn to get Despara?
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>>14787804
These sound amazing but aigis is 99% vanilla so it'll never happen. Too bad
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>>14786835
You should buy a lottery ticket with your luck. I've never seen so many blacks in my life.
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The new TP units, any good?
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welp I'm finally going to take the Nutaku TP seriously and grind DC for Spica
would hate to miss her before AW
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>>14787888
Its not my screenshot, its one of ulmf guys who play since start of dmm aigis. Everyone there has huge bunch of blacks.
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>>14786835
the niggest of teams
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>>14787894
Strongly depends on what you already have.
If you don't have plat or better angel, get Erun and her 1st guaranteed CR.
If you don't have Kannon or Mel, you should consider getting Janna.
Abel is weakest DR and their whole class is too gimmicky.
Viera is useless like all other marines.
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>>14787932
Marines are quite useful is you AW them. Don't understimate their fast attack AoE and low cost. They're great for early rushes.
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>>14787950
What's not useful if you AW them?
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>>14787968
Are you playing with a no AW challenge?
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What is it about these games that makes me want to spend money rolling?
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>>14787980
no just wondering if there's a unit whose AW or skill AW is shite and never worth it
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>>14788161
Yes there some units that, even if her skills are "more powerful", they can use them a single time and overall is worse than getting slightly less power but more uses.
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>>14788161
Plenty of skill awakenings are questionably worse than the original skill.
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Are events really hard or am I just terrible?
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>>14788231
why not both?
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>>14788231
Not really "hard", but rather designed for people who have been playing for much longer than you.
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If I use the valentine chocolates in dmm aigis, does my stamina overflow? Or does it just go to max.
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>>14788282
It works like an SC, so yes it overflows.
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>>14788161
Stray and Ryuryu come to mind depending on whether you value dps or range more.
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>>14788288
Maribel AW skill is simple crap.
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Well, that was fast.
As in "literally my first run" fast.
I accidentally got Mel killed but skeletons dying doesn't count against ally loss, does it?
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>>14788398
All new events on DMM have 100% drop rate for the first time. And yes, you can have any number of tokens die and get 3 stars.
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In your opinion whats currently the best games in nutaku right now? Aigis is nice and all and currently liking Dragon Providence. Wanted to get other peoples opinion so I know what games should I waste my time on
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>>14788471
Dragon Providence is just endless Conquest Battles. You login in 30 mins a day twice and fight against both lag and an enemy guild, then log off for the day. Also, it's p2w as fuck.
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>>14788471
There are no good games on nutaku. Everything is either p2w or boring or lacks devs attention.
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How much money is "too much"? I'm trying to justify myself spending money on aigis.
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>>14788579
If nutaku aigis any money is too much
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>>14788579
>Nutaku
$0 is too much
>DMM
This is a difficult question, but maybe limit yourself to one 150 pack?
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>>14788589
Even the 150 pack feels like it doesn't last me more than 3 months.
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>>14788471
I play Kanpani and Hitsuji.
Kanpani could use more events but it allows you to play casually. When you play 4 or 5 of these games, it's actually nice to be able to log in whenever you want. And it has the best waifus.
Hitsuji's gameplay is not that great and the story is ridiculous but at least it has events, and the H is 10 times better than Aigis. Don't know if i'm gonna keep playing it but i enjoy it for now.
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>>14788471
Hard to say, Kanpani is probably the "best" one, still it may become pretty boring but at least devs are really kind with Nutaku players, maybe too much.
Osawari is... butchered... horribly butchered. Sure there's a lot of events but the game is repetetive and the events are pretty much p2w.
Hitsuji is not bad per se but the dev incompetence is simple ridicolous and later, when rank events start to be rolled in, becomes p2w way worse than osawari.
Aigis is fine but tea team will soon kill the game for good and nutaku is way to scared to lose his senpai to do something, bitches.
Dragon Providence? Just read >>14788529
Duel Squad got pretty decent gacha ratios and that's why people plays that instead of Dragon Tactics probably.
I haven't played Angelic Saga enough and Girls Kingdom may be good if you like the gameplay (not for me).
I play Hitsuji but i'm seriously getting bored, probably leaving before this event ends, Kanpani is just carefee and "casual" you don't have to play that much to enjoy it and devs added some stuff to make easier the gameplay on Nutaku, like the Hard equipment dungeons and all these mails outside events.
I'm "playing" Dragon Providence just because i'm in a guild with some friends, probably quitting pretty soon.
I... ehm... play Aigis too
>playAigis
>Nutaku
Yeh yeh i know...
It's getting boring to play on Nutaku because we are not getting events, missing units, skipped events and we are still stucked with the first set of story missions.
Overall? Kanpani.
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>>14788607
Stop rolling gacha so much then.
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>>14788471
I gave all of the anime games on Nutaku a try and I gotta say the most enjoyable ones were/are:
Osawari Island, Kanpani Girls and Hitsuji Chronicle.

I also liked the bits of Dragon Providence here and there but I dislike this whole 'guild vs guild mandatory battle' gameplay. I've played arguably better games before with a system like that (Princess Connect, Glory Knights). Always dropped them because you have to cooperate with other people to fully enjoy the core gameplay.
But I admit I liked the H-scenes and the fact that the game is voiced.

Also I still fondly remember how when you enter the H-gallery, Chris (the titlescreen girl) sometimes comments this section as: 'I like to come here and watch sometimes too'.
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>>14788755
That's the only way to get premium black units.
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>>14788712
>but tea team will soon kill the game for good
What do you mean? I haven't been following Aigis for some times. What's happening there?
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>>14788823
Nutaku is blaming the poor aigis devs for all their laziness and the devs can't say anything because they don't know English.
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>>14788823
Tea Teamu is scrambling and throttling content for no apparent reason, even when entirely unjustified, and Nutaku claims to not have the foggiest idea why (due to Tea Teamu refusing to communicate with them) nor be able to do anything about it (due to updates being handled solely by Tea Teamu)
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>>14788823
Basically Tea Team is almost complitely ignoring Nutaku players.
Even for the anniversary Nutaku didn't got anything at all, not even a SC, event or Anna, nothing, even for Valentine and Christmas there was anything at all (even if we should have that Valentine day "event2 with the chocolate and stuff).
Nutaku words about the situation are just "We don't know anything! - We can't do anything!".
Both of them are in fault here and Aigis, with all probability, will not last for another year.
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>>14788823
Aigis is going down in flames, that's what's happening. There is evidently a rift between Nutaku and the JP Aigis team, and the latter now seems hell-bent on making EN Aigis suffer. Meanwhile Nutaku just blames Dev Tea behind their backs and refuses to do shit about the circumstances because they don't have the guts to actually talk with them.

The practical consequence of this is that the EN players didn't get a lot of promised content and it's pretty much confirmed that they won't get any beyond the bare minimum for the foreseeable future. People are now jumping ship while they have the time, and this is of course just desserts for Nutaku.
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>>14788811
No it's not.
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>>14788811
It's not really that necessary, you may find better use on refills and on buying more barracks slots than trying your luck.
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>>14788834
>>14788846
>>14788848
>>14788882
That's pretty sad and so stupid at the same time.
Is there any speculated reason why would Tea Team behave like that?
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I got Bashira and have a CC Soma. I still need to buy Spica asap?
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>>14788924
they hate money
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>>14788924
There was speculation floated that they want to break off and make their own EN version with lolis, but can't/won't break their contract, so they've turned full passive-agressive to try to get Nutaku to cut them off first.

If that's the case, though, it's not working because Nutaku are thick berks and want to milk every red cent they can get from the game until it goes down in flames, so the userbase are the ones who suffer.
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>>14788925
Spica terrible
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>>14788924
This is just my opinion ok?
Tea Team probably got pissed by Nutaku "loli-ban" and that "blck units drop incident" didn't helped at all.
Aigis situation don't was this you at start you know?
We used to get events and there was even a TP rotation but after Nutaku being a bitch about "plox no lolis in the game!!!" and players cheating they nprobably lost the will to work on it.
Still this don't save them on being a bunch of bitches now.

>>14788943
I've heard about that too but starting all over? Ehe.
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>>14788943
Nutaku is the one banning lolis? I thought it was the nips in fear of retaliation
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>>14788924
Several possibilities.

They may have noticed that they could shit down the necks of EN whales and they would still ask for seconds, so they no longer care about wasting effort on the EN side.

Nutaku might have receiving a large cut from their profits, so they may find it preferable to draw established players to JP Aigis by making EN Aigis unbearably awful.

Nutaku might have made some retarded demand that interferes with the release of content, or Dev Tea might have been fed up with their constant bumbling.

In any case it's fairly clear that their contract is the only thing keeping Aigis afloat, and even that won't last for long.
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>>14788943
I wouldn't mind playing my dmm account in English.
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>>14788958
The ones cutting off lolis are Nutaku's Irish payment processors, because muh legal entanglements, and Nutaku has to capitulate because if they can't handle credit card payments, their company vanishes in a puff of smoke, and apparently Nutaku isn't in a position to shop for a new payment processor.

Given the option between submitting those characters to editing or excising them from the game, Tea Team chose the latter option (but this doesn't explain why we're missing nearly a dozen non-loli units like Kagerou)

>>14788958
worth it for better gacha rolls and lolis ですせんぱい
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>>14788977
The rates are the same senpai. There are no better gacha rolls.
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>>14788996
most of my gacha rolls have been pretty shit though, so it's a second chance
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What black unit should I be rolling for? Aisha? Who else should I wait for the rate up for?
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>>14788956
We never "used to get events". We always had long breaks. The first event (Belinda) was followed by a 2 weeks breaks. So whatever it is that makes the devs hate us, it has always been that way.
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Should I focus on awakening Nanaly first or despara? Which one is more useful?
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So this day has finally come.
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>>14789017
Minerva, Mikoto, Nanaly, Rion, Amanda, Celia, Emilia(?)... There are a lot of great units, Aisha only beats the other blacks out because of her range.
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>>14789046
Despara gets much stronger with skill awakening, but an awoken archer is the core of any strong team. Your choice.
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>triple shot pirate and nudist necromancer are practicaly soloing missions and they're not even level 10 yet

my
fucking
dick
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>>14789081
>nudist necromancer
The outfits are getting more ridiculous with each passing event
I am worried about the mental well-being of the male units
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>>14789155
It actually covers more post-awakening rather than less.

Now that I think about it, though, I'd love to see an actual nudist unit/nipples outside of an H-Scene.
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>>14788834
>because they don't know English

Oh come on, surely there must be at least someone on their staff who has graduated high school.

Anyway, in all seriousness, my guess about the whole situation is that Nutaku is indeed left hanging by the devs. I think it's an intentional move to put pressure on Nutaku and their policies. If you think about it, we're talking about a dev tea that has adamantly refused to put in a "roll 10 at once" option because every unit, even irons, is considered a unique and individual character. Imagine how they react when another company comes along and tells them they'll have to make heavy alterations to these characters (not just changing outfits, like in the apple version, but body modifications, etc) or leave them out.

I don't think it's a coincidence that we were allowed to have a character like Shiho towards the end of a period of long content breaks.
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>>14788958
Used to ban lolis, yes.
They found that there's no lolis in their game, so it's fine to have lolis now, yes.
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>>14789214
It can't be because of the lolis. Nutaku clearly said that a lot of the missing units were approved, including Misha, and we still don't have them.
And they knew about the loli ban when they signed the contract, which means they don't care.
The question we should ask is : Why did they release Aigis EN if they don't care about us ?
They probably just wanted to make easy money without doing any effort. This is the only rational explanation. They have been assholes from day 1.
The game is actually way better now than what it used to, in the beginning we always had 2 or 3 week breaks, now it's 1week break - 1 event.
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What a thick tail
Should I give her the next max skill fairy? Her skill awakening seems good
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>>14789250
>1 week break - 1 event

You know... now i don't want to take their side but this is probably fault of all these idiots that cry for a break because "i need time to level up my units!"
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>>14789294
>nutaku
>aigis devs
>ever listening to customer complaints
>ever

pick -1
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>>14789163
Not likely since Aigis is also an all ages game.
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>can't cc Marie because no silver pirate
>can't cc Beatrice because no silver archer
>can't cc Deine because no silver heavies

kill me
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>>14789341
Ok, you got a point.
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>>14789350
Roll 2k gacha for justice.
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>>14789250

>easy money without doing any effort

I'd agree, but that'd be giving them credit for writing flexible code. I get the strong impression Dev Tea needs to put effort to repeat what they did in JP. Would not surprise me if every event required hot fixing and emergency welding of the code to make it stick.

Supposedly Girls Union (Kingdom) is by Dev Tea too. Except unlike Aigis, they just dumped the code on Nutaku and told them to deal with it (while still sending assets for new content). Issues of balance aside, I hear Nutaku's version of events is better than on JP.
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>>14789375
burned up my cash getting Deine to lv 50 because I only have one black fairy
wups
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>>14789665
I know the feeling, I haven't got any black ready for AW by far. I farmed that 30% chance map back in Beatrice's event quite a bit and still need tons more.
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>>14789681
>>14789665
>burned an entire week farming archers
>not a single Lauren has been dropped

I know what you mean.
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>>14789718
And archers are needed a lot too, at least people say Claudia's has a good farming map with a Pirate and a Bandit. Not like it matters if RNG doesn't even look at you.
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>>14788925
Spica is the best archer you can get, even better than Bashira at some extent. Buy her asap! she will make all your archers better
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>>14789742
If we ever get her event tho
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>>14788925
Honestly?
Most of the time you'll find yourself using Spica, Bashira and Daniela, Soma is "nice" to have but Daniela is simple more useful than her during events.
Spica is basically the second best archer in the game after awakening being the first one that broken AF unit called Nanaly.
So yeh, if you are not willing to roll your luck with summoning go for Spica and Bashira and Daniela (or Stray if you got him from the Gold Rush) and you are good to go.
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>>14789718
It's me I took all your Laurens (not pictured: Bashira and Nanaly's CC)

>>14789344
Well it's not like they can't do the iOS thing with the unit portraits except in reverse. Though it would just probably end up with streamers getting banned when they are used to opening Aigis R with adult content formerly restricted to only one screen.
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>>14789914
4 laurens now you can Awake a single Archer!
You need at least 8 silver archers to Awaken character + skill a single Archer but at least you can start something, good for you.
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>>14789914
There's also an all ages PC/android version.
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>>14789938
You only need 4 silver archers for a single archer since skill awakening doesn't use silver units.
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I fed my bashira to nanaly for a skill up but the skill level reset?
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I bought 150 SC. Who else is a whale?
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>>14789999
Her skill changes after you CC her, and skill levels reset when they change.
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>>14790014
100$ is pretty casual for these types as games for people that spend. You still have a long way to go if you want to be a whale my friend.
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>>14790014
>150 SC
>whale
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>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.co.edia.gkmncollection

So is this made by the people of Duel Squad/Crime Busters or are they just copying the cards from the game?
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>>14789994
Good to know

>>14790041
Probably same devs.
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>>14790014
>150 SC
>Whale

You are just a small fry
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>>14790014
Buy another 9 sets of those and then maybe they will consider letting you join the whale club.
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Is awakening and skill awakening two different things?
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>>14790777
Yes. SA is only available after AW and needs maxed skill level.
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>>14786923
When does despara get an aoe?
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Guys what you do to max skill lvl of awakened chars? I simply suck at lvling up skills
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>>14790879
Rainbow Fairy spam.
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>>14790917
So I need more luck at getting that bitches
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>>14790875
Her awakened skill is aoe. This gif still always makes me laugh though. I don't understand why she has a range decrease considering she's a black.
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>>14790935
That's a really shitty range. People actually use her like this?
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>>14790942
It's a really strong skill(AoE, 1.7x attack and nearly doubles her attack speed). You'll just rarely run into stupid situations where you can't or don't want to use it due to the range decrease.
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210 crystal fragments rolled.
2 golds (Vincent and fucking Cuterie, 4th one I get on this acc), 10 silvers.

I fucking hate people who roll plats and blacks from these free gachas.
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>>14791061
I spent 300 of those fragments recently and didn't even get a gold. 18 silvers was a pretty good amount, but unfortunately I only really need silver healers and I didn't get any.
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>>14791061
Same. The only time I get blacks are when I roll the premium gacha. Fuck those guys.
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Do the goddess buffs help at all?
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>>14791198
The only time I get blacks are when they are handed to me during events on a silver platter. :(
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>>14791363
Yes, they help a lot, ranged attack and cost reduction together almost doubles amount of damage you can endure.
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>>14791363
Yes? Seriously. when do they not help?
Especially with the drop in cost for some of them.
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>>14791472
>drop in cost for some of them
What do these words mean?
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Is there a rip of all the H scenes in the dmm version of these games? The aigis one on sad panda doesn't seem to be updated and the other games don't even exist
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>>14791488
Some of the buffs used to cost more crystals. they got reduced months back. Well, almost a year back in DMM,
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>>14791363
If you have to use them it trivialize anything you do assuming you are at the minimum level to do it eg your team is cc 50 and you are stuck at that one map using crystal will more then let you beat the map.

I avoid using it unless its super urgent. Treat it as your last resort cheat device.
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>>14791061
The best i've got was a bronze... a bandit...
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how do i get awaken fairies on aegis? i keep a bunch of faries but i lack the fairy
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>>14792651
Buy them in the TP with DC.
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>>14792686
nvm, i had it, it just wouldn't let me add it even though my unit is max level? is there something that i am missing?
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>>14792785
shiiiiet awakening orbs? wtf is this shit, the wiki says they are from dailies but not which dailies they are from
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>>14792785
Max affection/trust is needed as well, and orbs of course.
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>>14792805
There are different awakening dailies that drop specific role orbs, so you have to choose accordingly. For example archer orbs on Monday.
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>>14792824
where are they? i never see such things
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>>14792837
they're the maps every day that cost 90 charisma
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>>14792840
are they twice as hard as the 45 stam ones? i am a noob (clearly)
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So favourites Monique, Clulu and Luna have a chance to drop on the Valentine quests this weekend, the devs are quite nice. Should have voted for Rose heh.
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>>14792867
drop? you mean letters?
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is Sybilla good?
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>>14792858
they're pretty hard, but with a decent all CC team you can probably handle them if you do them right

they're almost all very tight on deployment cost
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>>14792918
the furthest mission i've cleared is oasis, so i don't think i can make it
time to grind someone else to max cc i guess
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>>14792867
There was only 3* unit sin that pool, no Rose for you Anon.
As far as i like Monique she is incredible overrated.
Honestly... i've voted Asa because i've expected something like this.
But fine, a full Awakened Clulu and Luna are "nice" to have around.

>>14792886
This weekend, they got a chance to drop in the valentine event mission.
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>>14792928
People like Monique for two reasons:
1. You get her immediately, so everyone has her.
2. For some reason tsunderes are highly loved.
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>>14792947
i like her petite body and blonde hair and she is the highest sword/shield unit i have because i am f2p
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>>14792958
Just started or just bad luck?
I'm f2p too, never paid and i don't see the point to do it if not to support them...
i may do that one day, i really like how Kanpani devs are dealing with us, they are really nice.
I've got so many Soldiers, best 3* fighter? Stats based Aqua for sure or Ran if you are looking for someone more tanky.
Still i've got Noemie, i'm fine until RNG don't rolls me a Rose.

>>14792947
Eh i know, loli-tsunderes are "special" and i'm fine with Monique per se, still could be worse... could be Azamino in her place or some other really overrated girl.
My prefered 3* girl? Anna.
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does duel squad have h-scenes?
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>>14793009
I would support Kanpani devs too, but there isn't a single thing i want from the shop. It's nice that Kanpani isn't P2W but there's nothing to buy... They should sell new skins for the girls or for your office, that would be nice.

>>14792928
I voted for Aurora, but sadly she's not in the top 3.
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>>14792947
Is Monique a tsundere, though? She never abuses the CEO and is as helpful and sensible as can be.

She does get flustered when they discuss love, but that's pretty understandable behavior, and it happens with the rest of the team as frequently as the CEO.
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>>14793135
Same, at side for extra employee slots, extra teams and these aprons for the bakery there's no other real use for these ES.

>>14793211
Being a tsundere is not just abusing someone, not showing your real feelings covering yourself with "i don't care if you go away or something" is also being a tsundere.

>>14793104
Should have, yes.
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Are you expected to do every event on dmm aigis?
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>>14792928
I hope they drop at a fairly reasonable chance. at least.
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>>14793453
No, but if you skip an event you risk the unit turning out to be incredibly OP later on (like Rikka with her bullshit DPS). And it's always harder to farm them during the Revival because there's another event going on, and if you skip the current event to farm the Revival Event instead, you're back to square 1 with "What if that unit turns out later to be bullshit OP?"

Also, you normally have less time to farm during revival, a lot of Unit Farms get shortened to 2 days instead of 7 days, Item Collection/Trial(now also Item Collection) are a week normally instead of two weeks.
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yay, Kanipani has the best support devs
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>>14793475
>like Rikka with her bullshit DPS

True damage, son!
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>>14793475
Max skilling and min costing every event unit would cost a lot of SC though. How do I know if they're good?
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>>14793453
Its up to you to decide how much to invest in particular event.
Usually its worth it to at least get first guaranteed CR and all SCs you can. If you are still raising your units, you may consider skipping (past first CR) less useful classes like ninjas, pirates and so on so you could get your team ready for more important collection/star trial events.
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>>14793553
>min costing every event unit would cost a lot of SC though
No.
Star trials are completely free.
Drop events have 100% drop rate for 12sta maps and on average you should have your mincost with just natural regen.
Collection events are the only one type which require significant investment but these units are almost always very overpowered. So far I didn't regret investing in my collection units, Eterna even became my most favorite unit because she's so damn versatile.
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>>14793578
Star trial events best events.
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>>14792867
Seems like they only drop on hard and intermediate. Seems like kind of a waste unless one happens to be your waifu or something since only easy has a good exp ratio.
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>>14793640
Are they dropping now? I thought it said the event will start the 20th
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> While Deployed, Sailor and Pirate Class Cost -3.
Oh my.

I think I'm gonna have some fun with my pirates after I awaken this new lass.
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>>14793578
Eh, the platinum units from collection events have been kinda disappointing, though I guess Pipin was okay if you didn't have a feng shui already.
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>>14793672
It's the 20th somewhere in the world. But yea according to the chat the drops are already live.
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>>14793696
I'm going to have some fun with her too ;)
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>>14793696
I have Anelia and Rachel too. Sounds like I could make a fun team.
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I need to awaken a witch, -2 cost Belinda or -1 cost Adele, leaning towards Adele for the damage which is what I'm lacking a little.
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>>14793834
Adele for the HP boost. Fuck those golems up.
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I failed to 1* 鋼鉄の手刀 for 6th time. I'm so tired of this fucking map, I just don't have enough time to set up some proper defense against early wood golems rush.
My AWed units: Eterna, Spica, Miranda, Yuno, Bashira, Katie, Pipin, Yurina, Monica.
Premium gacha units: Figneria (50CC70).
I don't have gold archers and Bernice is level 1.
Please help.
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>>14793899
If you can't handle that map, I really don't think you can handle the next few so why bother?
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>>14793976
I should be able to handle maps which just require tanking, I have enough healing power and effective defence to tank even mithril golem. I just don't have anything that I could throw at wood golems with low deploy cost, all my good units are in 25-35 cost range.
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>>14793992
It's a pretty simple map, you can find plenty of vids of people doing it with 0 awoken units if you just search for the name.
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>>14794025
>plenty of vids of people doing it with 0 awoken units
That's either full goddess buff videos or plenty of premium gacha units.
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>>14794030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giDxES1f0xw
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>>14794036
> 2 swordmasters
If only I would have them.
But using Chloe is good idea, my Chloe is CC70 so with Katie buff she should be able to pull it off without Sandra's support. Will probably still need unit cost buff.
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Is it just clustering illusion or does the 3 stamina map drop Sabrina really, really frequently?

She seems like a 30% drop there, I'm at -4 CR already.
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>>14794299
Chances are the drop rates haven't changed. You're just experiencing some good RNG in a small sample size.
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Ah, finally, my months of wasting my SC on endless silvers and golds payed off with Rion, my 10th gacha black (but 2 were dupes). Despite the rates I've only scored about twice as many plats, and some of those were from base/base+ summons.
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>>14794838
>10th gacha black
Jesus.
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>>14794838
congrats man, show that stuff.
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I spend 5000 yen every month on aigis and I don't have 10 blacks.
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>>14793135

If you happen to get lucky with the right 3*+ characters, the science forges start looking very attractive. Crafting is where this game makes a few bucks.

>>14793104

Yes it has them.

>>14793211

The term 'tsundere' has been so widely used that it's been stretched thin. Monique was designed to touch on 'tsundere' but without taking it to bipolar extremities. Arguably, such caricatures are the product of lazy attempts to mass-replicate the formula without understanding why it works.
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>>14794838
Fuck you, I'm getting close to 25 Plats from Gacha, and still not a single Black. I honestly might hit 30 Gacha Plats without a Black at this rate.
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>>14795354
Wow that's horrible. You've got a hell of a curse.
I even have more blacks than plats.
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So... has anyone had a girl drop on the Valentine quests yet?
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>>14795416
....and there comes Clulu. I only had to ask. Confirmed that they drop if anyone was wondering.
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>>14795354
meh, plats are still great, a few are even as good/better than the black for that class depending on the situation
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>>14795460
Wait, they're dropping now? I thought it didn't start till tomorrow.
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>>14795793
Yup, I did 11 hard runs today and she dropped in the tenth. Don't take that as a 10% drop chance though.
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>>14795818
Well dang, just ran intermediate and got Monique. So I guess they started it a day early?
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>>14795851
Even their mistakes are cool, if only another certain dev would learn a thing or two from them...
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>>14791390
Are you a prince who only has Saki and Karma for blacks too? Isn't nice hearing all those poor people complain about only having *a few* blacks?
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>>14796054
Someday Karma and Anya will be mine.

one can dream
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>>14796054
I've a single black, Saki.
That's all...
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>>14796221
>>14796054
I got a single black...the Prince
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>>14796300
The prince is a Red unit.
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クラス特性:出撃メンバーにいるだけでユニット以外のドロップ率が3%上昇、敵の攻撃力とHPが1.2倍
覚醒後クラス特性:出撃メンバーにいるだけでユニット以外のドロップ率が5%上昇、敵の攻撃力とHPが1.3倍
does this mean the enemies have stonger attack and hp? along with the drop rate increase
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